This video made me so sad. You sound so sad and I totally feel your pain to some extent with unwanted hair growth. Too many woman have to go through so much money and pain just to rid their body of hair and I think the easier solution is society needs to stop being buttholes and let us have Hair and make that normal. We’re humans. We have hair covering our body. Some darker than others and everyone needs to not make us feel badly about it and make it more normal. You speaking up is one step to bringing awareness so thank you and best of luck with your hair removal🖤🖤
I'm a feminine male and I have to deal with the issues women face when it comes to beauty. Even though I'm not like most guys and while still identifying as a guy, I try my best to be as feminine as possible. I hate body hair, luckily as a 24 year old male I don't have it on my chest or stomach but I'd say my legs are the hairiest. I tried laser hair removal and it didn't work, so I'm considering electrolysis.
@ムスタファ That's not true. I only remember one single time that I was picked on by a girl in my life because of body hair. But when it comes to men, I remember countless boys and men who decided to let me know how they felt about my hair.
i did electrolysis for a year every week..very expensive but worth every penny.. i have pcos and i literaly had a little beard..now it's 99% gone.. soo happy i did it and really reccomend!
Hello! Electrolysis does not work for me done every month for almost 2 years can only see 10 to 15 hairs gone. She recommended me to do laser now no idea What to do.
I went through the same thing I'm soooo happy now..I didn't worry about the money I wasn't happy than I had done 40yrs ago..I'm 75yr old now don't wear makeup and look good..HAPPY HAPPY NOW...thank you Jesus
@@damnsodelicious2921my Dr. took blood work to see why the hair was coming..I when on birth control pills..this 40yrs ago I'm 75yr old now and honey you can't tell I went 2 time a week..I don't wear makeup..I had it bad
The same thing happened to me!!!! The laser on my face made my hair grow back so thick. I was so insecure I’ve been doing electrolysis for a year and my hair is all gone!
You should only worry if you have PCOS or any other hormonal imbalance conditions. You should not get thicker regrowth if you don't have such conditions.
Same happened to me after laser and I had my hormones checked by gp all ok according to blood test. Some independent body needs to confront this issue head on.☹
true. but electrolysis is really expensive and time consuming for any other area that is NOT SMALL ie your neck, chin, nipples. NHS should cover other things to PREVENT pcos, instead of treating symptoms. I have pcos due to poor lifestyle choices during my childhood and teen years. I'm also doing electrolysis for chin hair. Would be nice to get pcos discount though
I'm on a hairy girl video binge because this has been my reality since I was 4 years old. It's my biggest insecurity to the point where I wished for alopecia universals during my teens. I've just finished 6 laser hair removal session and am feeling discouraged at the results. There has been a massive reduction in hair but not as much as I hoped.
I have been doing laser hair removal every two months for almost 10 years. I feel like in the last 3 years or so is when there has been enough reduction that I don't have to shave anymore. I started having hair growth when I was 4 years old as well. I used to be so ashamed of it as a child that I only wore long sleeve shirts and long pants, even though I lived in the Caribbean. There were many times when I felt like I was going to pass out from overheating. Anyways the moral of my story is you are going to need a lot more than 6 laser hair treatments to get to the point where you don't need to shave anymore. Laser worked really well for my arms, legs, underarms, and bikini. But on my face, not so much. Just sharing my experience.
Thank you thank you THANK YOU for being brave enough to share this. I work at a laser and elec. spa and the amount of women myself included that have hair on their face is insane and it has honestly made me more comfortable with myself. We treat roughly 20 women a day for facial hair some without pcos and others with it. I wish society would normalize it and it starts with people like you sharing your story and your struggles with it. You most certainly are not alone!
This is so reassuring to me. I've been tested for PCOs but have never been diagnosed with that nor any other hormone imbalance. I was so nervous to do laser a few years ago on my neck, but decided to take the plunge and after about 6 months my hair grew back SO much worse than it ever was beforehand. I'm so afraid I'll have the same reaction to electrolysis & I don't want to risk the hair getting even worse than it is now, but this gives me hope!! Thank you!!
So sorry you experienced the same thing! Electrolysis is the only solution and will not stimulate hair growth! Have a look at my channel I have updated videos showing my results and give more info! ☺️
Doctor isibor herbs and cleanser is what you should get to eradicate facial hair completely, no side effect and is one time permanent treatment for Hirsutism
Go to an endocrinologist, if hormones are out of balance unfortunately whatever you do the hair will come back time and time again, fix your hormones first then treat the symptoms of them being out of balance / acne, hair and etc.
There is no cure for PCOS. You can take birth control and other hormonal supplements, but unfortunately it won't lessen the hirsutism symptom. Many of the symptoms of PCOS have to be treated separately from the hormonal aspect or ignored, which is really hard to do when society sets the standard for what is acceptable regardless of the reasons why we are different.
You might have a hair problem, but what comes across more is your beautiful face and beautiful personality and in the long run thats what people will notice more
As an Electrologist I have worked on many young women with PCOS some have great results with just months of weekly visits and then a once in a few months visit, while others do suffer with so much hair it seems endless and discouraging. I use a blend of the two modalities galvanic and Thermolysis. I have never left the red escars that you receive from the service. I do believe that Electrology works, it is very difficult to know just how many treatments it could take and if your internal health is producing hormones causing more hair growth. I’m impressed with your presentation and honest results and continuous strength to keep track and believe
Electrolysis methods are better for the face, laser for the body (which is why there is regrowth on the face from laser most likely) but in all electrolysis methods are best.
I am electrologist that uses the Dectro Apilus equipment. I too have seen many clients with hair that got stimulated by laser treatments you did a great job with your video explaining a Electrolysis how long it takes to be finished andYour battle with the hormone problem thank you for sharing
Hi! Could I get your email to ask you questions about your machine? I’m looking into getting one now. How does it work for your clients? Do you work on dark skinned clients? If yes, how does it perform?
I had been diagnosed with PCOS some 8 yrs back and was suffering from facial hair on cheeks and chin. To my experience, I want to say very strongly that until unless we correct the root cause of the PCOS no laser or electrolysis gives us a permanent solution though we take therapies for years. Even if it seems permanently reduced, it is not permanent. Exercise, changes in diet, and lifestyle definitely help us in control the hormonal irregularity which consequently reduces facial hair growth. Along with that daily intake of 1 spoon of roasted flax seeds powder or soybean powder with hot water and spearmint tea helps in getting regular periods and controls the symptoms of PCOS.
Thank you so much for this. You're post is the most honest and realistic of all the videos I've seen. I've had this problem since I was a teen and it's been so difficult. It makes you feel really insecure. I have pcos as well, unfortunately where I live I can't afford laser or electrolysis. But I am saving so hopefully I can do it soon.
I don't know if you'll ever see this message, but I want to say thank you. I had no idea what PCOS is before this video and I was searching for a long time for answers as to why I had thick hair growth on my face. So when you mentioned you had PCOS, I looked up more about it and all of the boxes check off. I'm 21, I've had terrible acne associated with my hair growth, irregular periods, and I never knew why. I didn't go to the doctor for it because I grew up thinking this is what all women go through, but I was wrong. Just now, when I stumbled across your informational video (and did more research) I realized it was time to get tested. Thank you. Thank you so much ❤️.
First off, you are very beautiful and courageous. I'm so sorry you go through this. It really is unfair that the standard hair removal made your condition worse. You are very brave for continuing to research and try different techniques.
I have PCOS when i was 13 years old (its been 16 years now) I can't afford any laser stuff. Its depressing. Theres no way we can avoid it. Hairybody and face Oily face and pimples Acne and dry skin Getting fat Getting diabetes Being always sick and tired Mood swings Cravings for sweet Dairy products give wreck to hormones Irregular periods with painful cramps Foods are limited We gain weight for no reason We lost confident I even hate myself
Hi from Colorado. Please don't hate any part of your body. I have also been diagnosed with PCOS. I have endured fertility treatments to conceive my children. It was totally worth everything. I love my body, even though it is flawed. God bless.
jean doe The fact that you live thinking like THAT and still go out is very inspiring, despite not being comfortable with how you look yet still go through life shows you’re a strong person so....😌
@@kimarnette9318 is it true that its impossible to get pregnant with pcos? i recently found i hv pcos too...but im gaining weight and dark blavk hair on my chin
So thankful for you and your channel! I have PCOS and the same exact thing happened to me after laser treatments. My hair is darker and thicker in texture and now completely covers my lower face and neck. Just started my electrolysis journey and the girl I go to says it’s possible the laser stimulated the follicles resulting in all of the new growth. Thank you again for talking about this because it may help someone else avoid having to get electrolysis for hair they wouldn’t have otherwise had because of laser treatments.
When I was 18 I used Biore pore strips about 8 times on my nose. It ripped off the light fuzz, but then dark hair grew in right after. When I extract a hair, it consists of 3-8 small thin hairs. I still have these hairs on my nose tip, they look like blackheads. My other issue is I was born with an extended hair line along side of my face.. also known as "side burns". Thank you for sharing your experience with us..it really helps us all. I just subscribed now.
Thank you for your video! This has been so helpful and explained to me why I have received hair growth after Lasor with no hormonal imbalances. Doctors have not found any answers, but I fear I am not going to the right doctor. I am currently going into electrolysis now after years of Lasor work. I wished that insurance companies help to pay for this development of hair in women as it can cause depression and anxiety, The same way that some insurance helps to pay for Lasor or electrolysis for the transgender community. Instead every insurance company suggest that this is just a cosmetic procedure when women suffer with this problem and have no support from society pressures or medically.
You're beautiful girlee, thanks soooo much for being so REAL and TRANSPARENT with your life story, it was a teaching experience for me....thanks again. XOXO & Blessings and praying that you get the lasting results you need :-)
Hi Melis, I also had hair removal treatment in my neck & chin area. I’m a graduated biology student in MA applying to medical school soon. I started getting facial hair growth myself a week after I had a prenatal pill along with a multivitamin pill. I’m positive of this because this is the only thing I had done different the week before I started seeing so many changes in my body. Also, I think this might have been the trigger to cause such quick hormonal imbalances. After this I decided to get laser treatment and my hair did keep growing back until I stopped eating processed meat. I stopped because when I went to visit the country where I was raised (Dominican Republic), I was eating everything there and I did not get any hair growth. But once I came back to he US I continued to eat processed meat and I got the hair growth back. After this I realized it had something to do with what I was eating. Before finishing my 9 laser sessions I started eating meat with no preservatives or antibiotics and this helped. I did end up getting a little bit of hair growth back so I decided to give up eating meat completely. Today, I only eat seafood. My advise to you is pay more attention to what your eating, this is key. Best of luck, Yacaira
Thank you so much for your advice! I am aware that diet plays a big role but I don't have enough self control yet. I'm still working on it. Thank you for sharing your experience it was very helpful!
Pancake Batter I’m not sure where you are getting (Mejia Fuentes Dominga Del Valle) from, I sign De La Cruz Santiago which is Dominican/Puerto Rican but anyways, it’s really challenging if you live in the US because here almost everything you can eat is processed. Did you have this problem as well? Thank you for your comment by the way.
Wow, I am so glad I am hearing this. I don’t have PCOS from what I know but growing up I was extremely hairy. My labs show that I have slightly elevated testosterone. I spent years doing laser; 4 years on my legs and 3 years on my face. I noticed when I started laser on my face that the hair was much thicker and coarser. I continued along with it. Unfortunately, I still have hair on my chin and jawline. The upper lip hair is resolved. I was thinking about doing electrolysis. Both my mom and sister have done it and have amazing results. Thanks for the insightful video :)
Hi Melis! Thanks for sharing your story. I too have PCOS and after years of waxing and tweezing my face and the hair growing in thicker and darker, I embarked on the electrolysis journey. I started back in March and have been going every two weeks for one hour sessions. It seems to be helping, but I am not entirely sure as I have not gone longer than two weeks without a session. The sessions are definitely pricey, but I am willing to make the investment if it helps with my facial hair in the long run. I am hoping my sessions get shorter and less frequent. Thanks again for sharing your story, it reminds me that I am not alone! :)
Lovely to see, I have been doing electrology for 45 years and "seen it all." I mostly do "massive" hair removal ... backs and body areas ... yes, it can be done. Your video is nicely done.
Hi, though I come from a country like India where there are only professionals who cheat away the money of people even without knowing the science behind electrolysis. The hardest part is I have gone through a lot of mental agony for my condition without having any issues with hormone imbalance , the only thing is the vigorosity by which they shaved and left me nowhere. But I am sure that thermolysis and electrolysis are the best possible tools. I felt you are right in saying that it really works unlike others. May you get a lot of customers treated at your clinic.
Something similar happened to me! I was so upset that laser made my condition worse, to the point that electrolysis had to go fix their (laser) mistakes. Laser also gave me pigmentation on my face. Also where I went the lady was only interested in selling me lotions than focussing on my concerns. Thanks for your honest video and if you are reading please always choose electricolysis over laser. Electrolysis is PERMANENT, laser is not
Don’t be sorry girl, you’re a woman and these odd things happen to us. I have the same issue and am back to electrolysis and I know it’s the best. You’re beautiful.
Really informative video. Always had 1 or 2 "hag hairs" on my chin as an adult. Since hysterectomy in 2017 (I'm 53), they have become more numerous/thicker. They also cause my face to break out in spots and for the first time ever I'm considering electrolysis. Waxing actually tore the top layer of my skin off, which then became infected and scabby (yum). Creams leave my skin sore and taught and shaving leaves stubble that looks like black heads. Your video was the most honest and informative I've seen yet. Good luck and thanks.
It is so difficult when almost all forms of hair removal doesn't work with your skin. I experienced the same thing but have finally found something that works for me. I hope electrolysis works for you too give it a go!
Katie, my problem is exactly same as yours. Had the same experience with waxing too, sad. Pls share your experience with electrolysis. I am tweezing the 10--15 hairs on my chin as of now. They just grow back. No other issues with this method so far. But am on the lookout for a permanent solution. Many, many years ago, I did have a few "hag" hairs near my navel, which I had just a couple of sessions of electrolysis for and it never came back.
I am over 39 years old. I have this hair growth when I was 21, but I checked it several times, it had nothing to do with my endocrine system. I never had PCOS, or thyroid disorders. I was pretty much normal other than slightly asthmatic and consuming steroids in the forms of inhalers and rarely in the form of shots. I went through Lazer and it really got worse, then through electrolysis which helped me, but since I got married I moved to some other place and the only option there was laser. Though I tried convincing the dermatologist that it would bring the worst results, I had no other go. I am severely affected as I have a 100 times more hair now..
Thank you sooooo much for doing this video! I also have PCOS and I’ve decided to go to laser as I found electrolysis super painful. Thank you so much again this has really helped me
I have PCOS and started with laser. I had that same issue of it growing back wildly worse and this was during my routine sessions. I didn't take a break from it. I'm actually going to start electrolysis soon hoping that will end my grief and embarrassment once and for all.
It will honestly change your life! I’m so happy with my electrolysis results. You can watch my updated video if you like but long story short, electrolysis is the best and only solution at this point!
I had the same experience with laser hair removal, after a year of treatment that looked maybe 50% better, and now a year post treatment, I feel that my hair is growing back worse than when I went in.
Thank you for sharing this beautiful! I shall too be investing in electrolysis soon cause I’m just tired of how this is affecting my anxiety and self esteem. It’s only my face that is problematic and the face is what everyone sees first! I’m only 23 and I’m just done with this, I want it to go away so I can be comfortable in my skin again! Thank you so much for sharing your story, I don’t feel like I’m the only one anymore and thanks to all the ladies commenting below about their experience! ❤️
I have pcos also and It’s been about a year since I stopped doing laser hair removal since I moved to a different state. My hairs have grown back but it’s not bad but still it makes me insecure. I have been recommended BC which has helped a lot but i wanna be able to have children one day . It’s a struggle and I wish I didn’t have facial hair at all :(.
May I ask you one thing. You have had laser on your body too, would you like to reveal whether body hair returned too or not, if yes was it reduced or thin or same prior to the laser procedures? Would be thankful if you do reply!
i don’t have PCOS, but i did do laser on my face because i thought it would get rid of the hairs i had. i was wrong; it made it worse. my hair grew back thicker and darker, and i was upset. it looked like yours, but it a bit more thicker. i started electrolysis in February 2019 and i would go every week for one hour. the hair growth was so bad my lady told me i should be coming in a few times a week for one hour. it is now July 2019, and i have seen results like no other. i am so so happy i did electrolysis because it got rid of all of my hair. we are now working on my sideburn area and after that i should be coming in every few months. i am so sorry this happened to you, but i hope you get the results you need from electrolysis.
@@ViNtAgELovv11 omg no way? if u think electrolysis is making ur hair worse, PLEASE look up other places to go, because it should not do that. My lady is located in Tarzana, CA, if you are around that area I can give more info. As for my hair growth, omg its gone! I go every couple of months to get rid of the lighter hairs around my neck area but that's it! its amazing honestly and i hope u see results like i did.
Thank you for being so candid about your experience. I made the mistake of starting to pluck, shave, wax, cut and just generally fuss about with my facial hair and it's the worst thing I ever did. I haven't been diagnosed with pcos but there's something going on in my body. I have a laser removal appointment booked for a consultation and I am glad I watched this first. I was under the impression laser would be a permanent solution but it would appear not for many ladies. On another note, you're beautiful regardless of facial hair and I again thank you for being so honest xxxx
LASER CAUSED ME MORE HAIR GROWTH. Hair started growing in new places where she ran the laser over "just in case." I'm now scared that electrolysis is doing the same thing. I've been doing it for a few months, and hairs are growing farther out in my cheekbones than they ever did before. How can I know its not doing the same thing? Has anyone had experience with this? I'm so frustrated and upset.
You should go every 4 weeks. I am a boy, i just started my electrolysis on me face. (was hard to find a doctor who would accept a guy?! Yeah. Thank god i found one that said yes). The session is really painful. Her clients need maximum 10 sessions for complete hair removal, except hands it takes 3 approximately. Hope everyone has a nice day.
I cannot even begin to explain how much I relate to this. The soul crushing realization that something you may have done in hopes to make your situation better has actually made it worse and you can't go backwards. It's so hard when it's your face... Laser made my facial hair worse and it tanked my self esteem. I wish women talked more freely about stuff like this so that we can break stigmas about hair and to not just feel so worthless.
LASER MADE MY HAIR WORSE TOO. Did you get electrolysis afterwards, and did it help? I'm now getting electrolysis but I'm scared that the same thing is happening. Hairs are growing farther out in my cheekbones than they ever did before.
@@ViNtAgELovv11 I can't say it made it better because I didn't stick with it long enough because of COVID... I think it has. But I can tell you that it didn't get worse.
I feel so sad and happy about watching this video. I'm sad because I know how it is to have a lot of facial hair and you do everything you can to get rid of it and it just keeps coming back I suffer from PCOS and it's really hard for me I'm already Italian so I have a lot of dark body hair but I have like excessive amounts of hair on my like lower legs my lower back my arms and then I just started getting like a beard when I was 17 and it makes me upset every single day cuz I'm constant touching my neck and my face wondering if anyone sees these super dark black hairs that are on my face but I'm also happy because I'm realizing the more I watch videos like this there is more people that feel the same way that I do and have the same problem that I do and I'm not alone listening to this video honestly makes me feel like it's going to be okay but I'm not the only one that has this so thank you for that
From watching other peoples videos with pcos, the theory is that once you remove hair from one side of your face, if you arent treating the hormones, they are still there and will stimulate hair growth somewhere else. Another woman did a video on laser hair removal on her face, and because she removed her facial hair, it started to grow on her neck. I experienced this :(
All I can say is "I feel you cysta". People do not understand how it affects your life. You literally think about your excess hair every day, especially if it's on your face. The stares and then you get people who comment - as if I'm oblivious to it. Just trying to get through the day without being shamed for something you can't control. Have done 2 rounds of IPL Laser (probably 12 sessions each), knowing that it would take time, but the shaving for maintenance in between just made it so much worse. The second round though I felt like I was seeing more results. Once the results plateaued, I started with Epilfree Waxing; it's been about 2yrs now. Still have plenty of hairs left. Recently read that the waxing might have even been stimulating the hairs (How depressing and discouraging!?). Now considering going for Electrolysis and really hoping it works for me too. (Just so ready to be free from this prison, you know?). And recently started moving to a Gluten-Free diet and Spearmint Tea, in addition to my medication to try help with symptoms.
My first laser round made me grow more hair! It was horrible. But they must have improved the technology because the second time 10 years later cleared it all! I'm so thankful. Electrolysis was waaaaaay to painful and didn't even work.
I have never commented on such videos on youtube before, but yours is so spot on and I could finally relate to a story from beginning to end that I feel I have to share my own story with laser. I have struggled with facial hair for a long time too.. and I thought it only got worse after waxing (some hairs got thicker and others would grow back as ingrown hair) until I did laser sessions for a year and a half and stopped; that's when another - bigger - problem has emerged ! After the first 2 laser sessions I was so happy with the result - since I had a few dark hairs on my chin that got thinner so quickly - that I decided to extend the area to my sideburns as well. I kept recommending laser treatment to my friends and I enjoyed having a clean face for months (knowing that I had a session every 3 weeks that cost 80$ each). But the moment I stopped having laser I noticed that my hair growth has become even worse! I started having hair around my neck that I didn't have before and now it's becoming thicker which is really frightening. I have no hormonal problem and my case is actually a paradoxal hair growth as you said. Now I really don't know what to do since I am one of those rare cases who experience this side effect I am afraid it would happen with any other method I try! You never think of yourself having a rare side effect until it happens to you. Now all I do avoid touching it even though I don't think I can live with it any longer and will probably try bleaching or something (actually that's how I stumbled upon this video). I mean I tried both waxing and threading before laser and wasn't satisfied with the result or just how fast it kept growing back. I'm sharing this only to say that if it had happened to you, you reader, you're not the only one. I still don't know what to do about it but..I'm hopeful.
Hi, thank you for sharing your story. It's nice to be assured that we're not alone. I do highly recommend electrolysis it won't make the hair worse. It just takes a long time to get results.
This is exactly why I chose NOT to do laser. Funny how “professionals” will deny deny deny that hair can grow back thicker, darker and in places it didn’t grow this way prior, yet there is an entire diagnosis and term for exactly that condition called paradoxical hypertrichosis 🙄. I didn’t need the terminology to know this is a very real thing that happens to us, but from personal experience I know this condition is very real. They try to make us think we’re delusional. They say it’s “rare” but I’ve watched so many vision women who have this same problem
@@elettramia6380 Thanks for your comment, Elettra. Wow it's been 2 years now since my comment and a lot has happened since. I decided to invest in a Philips laser that cost me 350€ then (now around 400) from the lumea series... and I can't be happier! I used it regularly for half a year then stopped for almost a year before starting again this month, and what can I say... I'm blown away!! The results lasted LONG after I stopped, which was not the case when I had laser sessions with a professional.. and I could've probably waited some more before starting again. Some friends and even my sibling used it too after I recommended it and they're all happy with it, especially when they stop and realize too that the hair growth is unbelievably reduced for many many months! Just putting this here it might help some of you! I still don't know how it's working better than seeing a professional but it does and it's cost effective too so it's worth a try in my opinion. Especially that there are no extra costs after that!
Thank you for sharing this!! I am currently suffering from a hormonal imbalance that I found out 2 weeks ago. I am almost certain that I have PCOS but more tests need to be done to fully diagnose me. I am experiencing everything you have and Its quite depressing but After seeing this It reminds me that I am not alone.
The place I got laser hair removal had an experienced trained RN so she taught me some things. I used to get my underarms and ‘Brazilian’ which are sensitive areas for me. I wanted to do this on my legs, but she advised that I’d be wasting money since it works best on dark hair and that light colored hair (light brown or blond) gets nourished by the laser heat so it doesn’t “kill” it. For pain, ask your physician to prescribe you Lidocaine. It’s a white cream that you apply to the skin (apply a thick layer) and keep it on for 1hr before your session and it will numb the skin. Place plastic food wrap over it to keep it from rubbing off. It works great, I promise!!! I used to cringe when I got my Brazilian done, but an esthetician on TH-cam who does elect recommended Lidocaine and it was truly pain free (my pain tolerance is usually high). Laser isn’t permanent so I’m looking into electrolysis now. Laser hair removal does grow back if you stop doing the touch-ups. I wish you the best outcome, keep doing electrolysis!
SAME experience. Had laser hair removal on upper lip and chin. Before laser hair removal I had some fuzz on the chin, nothing egregious. My upper lip did okay with laser, like yours. My chin...exploded with dark thick hairs. Your photos are so similar to how my chin looks now. The worst part is feeling gaslit by the laser hair removal workers making me feel like I was the one doing something wrong. Nobody believed that my hair got worse BECAUSE of the laser. It's validating to know someone else had the same exact experience. It's 100% the laser causing the hair growth. It's been over 10 years and I still haven't figured out how to get rid of the chin hairs. :(
As a girl who is 23 y.o please read carefully. I've been through the same process and I totally got rid of all my facial hair. I am a hairy girl and my hormones are supporting it and at 7 I started waxing bikini area, armpits and I was really sensitive about even 1 hair folicule. At 14 I started to have laser hair removal to my face and my face become like man beard and it followed by inflamed hair root causing acne and my face was in terrible situation with soooo many hair and acne. What laser does to facial hair is since the roots are not so thick, it literally triggers the hair and wakes up the sleeping roots and causes the hairs you won't even see becomes darker and thicker and results with beard-like hairs. At 18 I found a woman in İstanbul who does the great job in electrolysis and went her. It took 22 hours in 2 days. I was numbed and literally slept while she was doing the job. I got rid of each hair and result was perfect. A year later maybe quarter of the hair came back with same strong and I went to her again. And now its been 4 years I am totally clean and I see the ONLY AND ONLY WAY TO GET RID OF THE HAIR IS ELECTROLYSIS. PLEASE DON'T EVEN TRY SOMETHING ELSE. AND BE SURE THAT YOUR ESTHETICIAN DON'T PULL THE HAIR WITH TWEEZER AFTER GAVE THE ELECTRIC SHOCK WITH NEEDLE. MAKE SURE HAIR IS COMING TO TWEEZER WITHOUT FORCING/PULLING WITH TWEEZER. And don't worry everything has a solution as long as we are healthy. Nevermind the rest of it. Everything will be ok ❤
You are so brave! I want to do electrolysis for my upper lip and chin so much but I am too afraid of the pain(I imagine its excruciatinggg) and I have thick hair so growing it out would be super embarrassing. Sigh. You look so good! So happy for you!
BulletproofQpid Thank you! The lip is quite painful I’ve tried it once 😖 growing it out at the beginning stages is embarrassing so I would book the appointment as soon as the hair grew through my skin. I also covered it with a scarf so nobody would notice (first time I appreciated London being cold all the time) ☺️
@@SharlizeLyn what are the consequences of Pcos? is it impossible to get pregnant? i just got to know i hv pcos too..im kinda worried...anf have a lot of dark black hair and its kinda annoying
@@kppi.1161 , i think it's different for everyone because it can manifest differently. Apparently there are 5 types of PCOS. I'm only familiar with mine. My symptoms included: - rapid sudden weight gain - erratic periods. Like I would have a reverse period (bleed for 3 weeks, 4 days clear, and then repeat). And then it would shift to having no periods for 7 months.... and then bleeding for 10 months straight. It was completely unstable and almost left me anaemic. - I became insulin resistant. People with PCOS can become insulin resistant much faster than others. Which is what triggered the sudden weight gain. - the most obvious thing that gave me the diagnosis was that a scan revealed my ovaries are inflamed and are covered in cysts around the edge (hence POLYCYSTIC OVARY in PCOS). These cant be removed because they're basically everywhere. Google images if you're not squeamish - and a few doctors told me I was infertile and was not ovulating despite bleeding so much . But fortunately this can be reversed. So as a result... I am on birth control. This is the typical method of hormone therapy used to manage my period and hormone issues. So as long as I'm on the pill, I'll have a stable period once a month. And my hormones are the wrong way around. So I have low oestrogen levels and high progesterone. These levels usually trigger a period , which is why I would constantly bleed . So because the oestrogen levels are very low, the effects of testosterone are more harsh on the body. I dont have any more testosterone than I should but I have too little oestrogen to balance it out. So I have thicker hair and my hair on my head falls out quite a bit, so I avoid brushing it too too much. I'm also on metformin (anti diabetic medication) to reverse the insulin resistance. Because IR is pre-diabetes. It can be reversed before it progresses to full out type 2 diabetes. The best advice i can offer is to go to a gynae (if you have not already), and be put on a birth control pill that agrees with your body and that "corrects" the imbalance. Because if you have pcos, you MUST have some hormone imbalance. the pill basically can help when it comes to having children. Apparently when you and your partner are ready to have children, you use the pill as you would if you were using it for contraceptive purposes, and try to conceive immediately after stopping the pill. I am not married or interested in children right now, so I cant speak from experience on the topic of conceiving with PCOS, but A LOT of women in my family had undiagnosed reproductive issues (probably pcos , because it is hereditary) and struggled excessively to conceive. Because back then it was taboo to go to a gynae and they had weird myths about why people who struggle to conceive etc. Silly shit honestly . I hope this helps. My best advice is to use the pill and manage the symptoms. Realistically that is the best you can do but also kinda all you can do. You cant reverse pcos. But if you would be open with adopting children, then you could have your ovaries removed and will no longer suffer with symptoms . But that is the last resort and is usually considered after managing to have kids and wanting to be rid of the symptoms. All the best hun
Sharlize Hendricks i heard that boilling water with oignon like for 2 oignons 2 cup of water you put them too boiled and boiled for 5 minitufe and then you have to drink it during one week avery month after the periods week and people who had it says it worked it maybe not easy to drink but why not to try this every month and then see with the doctor some people are really greatfull with that
The same thing happened to me. I got laser on my face and within a few months it grew back worse than ever before. I might have PCOS since it runs in my family but I haven’t been diagnosed yet. I’m sick of waxing/ plucking so I’m going to start electrolysis soon.
I am so glad that I watched your video and going to tell future clients to watch this. I am an electrologist and agree with almost everything that you stated. I do have a problem with the pictures that you showed after your first treatment. I have never had a client leave my office that experienced scabs appearing after treatment. This should not happen. You might get irritation, swelling and redness but never ever scabs...this can lead to scars which I have from previous electrolysis treatments. You also might be getting these scabs from the type of treatment you are receiving. I perform thermolyis only and I believe that the blend or glavanic method can do this. Good luck with your treatment.
I'm also an electrolygist and thought the same as you. It's very unusual to get scabs like the photo from electrolysis. I wouldn't like people to be put off electrolysis by that first photo.
You know, when I was diagnosed with Pcos... my Dr asked me if my Mother was given a medication for morning sickness when she was pregnant with me... I asked my Mother. She told me yes. I guess my Dr told me they thought there was a link once between PCOS and a medication given to Mothers for morning sickness. Anyone else ever hear of that? Makes u wonder??
Not here, my mother went off all medications, even for her anxiety, and my sister and I both have PCOS. We're starting to think it's exposure to a toxin in the environment during early development.
I was told by a dr once they noticed a connection to the mom being extremely stressed during pregnancy.. I dont know about that but I've noticed that becoming pretty common.
I lasered my face. After like three sessions the hair was still there. It didn't become thiner or thicker though. But after switching It to a weaker laser device my hair started to grow back a lot worse. That mistake I made.
Remember the laser only works on active hair follicles. They could be brand new hairs that just popped out because you are getting older. They definitely are not the same hairs that you had electrolysis on.
Thank you for your video. Unfortunately, "paradoxical hair regrowth" happens so often after laser hair removal on face, that this terminology is probably commercial trick to hide from clients irresponsibility of beauty industry for providing damaging manipulation.
It’s laser. You got a paradoxal hair growth. Electrolysis is the best when it comes to face!!!!! It takes forever (anything between 1 to 1.5 year) but the results are very satisfying!!!!! People shouldnt use laser on face.
I have been an electrologist for over 50 years, and I feel by what you’re saying, it was your pcos that caused more hair growth. Also, you shouldn’t have scabs after electrolysis, for the treatments to be effective.
i'm so stuck for what to do in regards to treatment. I was gonna get laser hair removal done but now I really don't know. I was diagnosed with PCOS because I have very thick and dense dark hair on my face and neck, basically its like beard growth in men. I also get hair underneath my belly button, but I don't have a hormone imbalance. I have to shave everyday and I hate getting physically close to people because i dont want them to see my face up close. I don't know whether to just try laser and see how I react with it or what :/
I’m not sure who told you that you don’t have hormonal imbalance because, even with genetic predispositions, that’s what causes PCOS AND hirsutism without having pcos. Detoxing the body for a more alkaline system and balancing the hormones through diet, exercise, clean water, stopping steroid use (internal and external) WILL help thin the hairs and very possibly they will fall out or stop growing back with time. In the meantime, it could definitely be worth trying electrolysis or IPL but don’t expect long term results without doing internal healing.
It’s your age, that’s why they recommend to do this after 25, some spend thousands before 22/25 and then it grows back cuz you get this last hormonal boost around 25.
I have PCOS and had laser hair removal on my chin. Big mistake. It was ok for a year after that hair started to grow on my neck where I never had if before. PCOS always finds its way. Only way to deal with it is balancing body from the inside.
So glad to watch this video. Also have pcos, spent thousands having laser. 3 months after completing 14 painful sessions, facial hair has grown denser and darker and in a beard formation which i now have to remove every few days! So disheartened and upset to feel like I'm not achieving results and then there's the acne and hair loss to cope with too... Decided now to completely focus on doing everything i can to stabilise the hormones before having to try electrolysis but self esteem is completely gone at this stage with this pcos battle.
I had and still occasionally have electrolysis done, mostly jawline and a bit upper lip. I didn't have as much hair as you did, but a significant amount that caused me so much stress and shame. I didn't wanna be touched. It is much better now, disregarding the odd hair. It all started when I started to pluck hair in that area. I stopped doing it and it helped a lot. I'm getting laser treatment done on my body, hope it won't be a waste- All the procedures are soooo expensive! Thanks for being so open - for a long time I thought I was the only hairy woman.
I hate that you're going through this, but I am so relieved that im not alone. I always felt disgusting about it and it's a hard thing to deal with. I shave my face every day and my skin is so irritated, but if I don't, I have THICK, VISIBLE facial hair.
Aww,Bless your heart,I too are going thru the same thing that's why I'm here, My 33rd birthday are Sunday the 19th and I'm filling very insecure now after dealing with this all my life,,My Son asked just the other day,,Momma why you have a mustache like a man 🤦♀️😥🤷♀️😭
@@alex______456 Seems you didn’t understand or maybe not reading my comment i guess hahaha Someone was doing that treatment bcoz of her financial stability. She can, why not! Thats supposedly to @ Abigale Kirsten.
Hun I'm sure you already know.. but diet and excerise is a MASSSSSSSSSSSSIVE game changer when it comes to PCOS having struggled with it myself for years esp the facial hair, I noticed my horrendous diet made my hair thicker and come back as fast as lightening. However as soon as I changed my diet, worked out 4/5x a week and used a cream called vaniqa - has to be prescribed my hair became thinner, not all but just some.. I still have to remove my hair every single freaking day.. and worst part is sometimes it's not even grown enuf to be removed so I sit there painting my face with layers upon layers of foundation to hide it as I haaaaaate the way people judge. Diet and exercise and stress...if you can grab hold of these you WILL see changes there's no cure for PCOS but even the smallest change will make a big difference to your life! Best of luck to the PCOS gang! ❤️
Crystal O I don’t know. I had soft hair in my cheeks and mustache area. So I told the lady only those parts and she ended up doing all the face. I was like, it’s okay I don’t have hairs there either way who cares... but turns out I got hairs in those parts I didn’t.
@@TheVaaLee THE SAME THING HAPPENED TO ME! Its horrible! I'm so mad! Have you done electrolysis to get rid of those new hairs? I am doing it now but can't see results yet....I'm scared the same thing is going to happen
Hey Melis! I have PCOS as well. One thing that I discover during a medical congress is never user pulsed light treatments if you have PCOS. It'll come back worst or in other area of your body. The best choice is LASER hair removal treatments or electrolysis. Also, it's very important to watch your diet. The low carb diet and keto diet are the best . :)
Simone McKee Thanks for the info! I had no idea ipl could make it worse but I’m glad that I went back to electrolysis. The hair is pretty much gone now. I struggle with following diets but definitely need to find a way to stick to it. Thanks again ☺️
I hate when people say hair can't grow back worse....yes it can. I plucked ONE hair in my arm and that one hair always grows back darker in comparison to the other ones
Melis, I love your videos. I am an Electrologist, which is an Electrolysis Specialist. I have been freeing people from unwanted hair for over 30yrs. Your explanations are very good, to the point. I would like to send people enquiring to your TH-cam videos. What a beautiful woman you are with this hair problem. I suggest to have your treatments closer together. Yes, long, fine hair will need to be removed to stop your future problem.Cheers Anne Michelle- Elcetrologist in Nelson, New Zealand.
I have PCOS. I used yag laser and did 12 treatments and still have fine hair in some parts... it’s not going to go away... we can only control it and maintain it from getting too thick.❤️
It’s actually better after yag... however you can still see some fine hair like the peach fuzz in some areas... I have not done anything since COVID to maintain it but it doesn’t look bad like it did before
one of the reasons that may promote more hair growth on face after laser treatment it's because it may have a reversive effect, which means instead of making it disappear it will help it to grow it faster and thicker. this is what I heard from a documentary video.
Not everybody scabs you should try it and see how your skin reacts. But I should mention that I recently went to a new electrologist and she used a different technique I've never seen before and I didn't experience any scabbing
@@melisatesbel I did go to have it done and she gave me a bullshit excuse about how she thinks electrolysis isn't right for me (i think the amount on my face scared her off) kept telling me it could take years and that it's really for people that have 1 or 2 chin hairs and basically told me to go.
Madea Before laser came out they use to do legs arms underarms with electrolysis so yeah that is a really bad excuse. It is for anybody and I highly recommend it for facial hair
Thank you so much for this video and sharing your experience so honestly! So informative and relatable. Also didn't know there's a 'british institute and association of electrolysis' that was really good to learn about!
At this point i'm still very shocked with the negative result I got after suffering from PCOS for so long 😊 once again DR RORPOPOR HERBAL on TH-cam for your natural supplements.💯💯
I totally feel you 😔for me I have a hairy body, and face but never tried to get it off I'm afraid it will grow thicker than anytime before. So I just keep it as it is this is my DNA! I can't change it so.... Let's be ourselves
I have PCOS and my hairs went right around my face from side burn to side burn and the entire area under my chin and neck. I have been getting electrolysis for one year now. I started off doing two hours per week and increased to 4 hours per week from May - August of this year. Where I live it costs $75 CAD per hour. I've likely spent close to $10,000 and only now am I reducing to one hour per week. This is to give you an idea of how often you need to go if you have a serious case of facial hair. I'll be continuing for at least the next year. I no longer shave at all I just let her deal with them every week, some still grow long but it's no where near what it was. I would say 80% is likely gone for good at this point. I would like to say though, I have maybe had ONE scab in all of the time I have been receiving treatment. This is not normal and will lead to scarring. They can turn down the frequency of their machine. Unfortunately scarring is common from what I hear if you don't find a very good electrolysist.
How is your facial hair now? Is it completely gone? I am doing electrolysis only over a year so far.. not much results yet because it’s so expensive I had to cut down to two times a month 😔 was thinking of doing laser with the alexandrite machine but I mal scared of all these comments saying it will make it worse. But I’m so tired of waiting for electrolysis to be over :(
Unfortunately I've experienced the same thing as you. I've heard of the treatment you're describing here and I'll give it a try. Of course hormonal treatments work as well and I should try it on again. The lazer has only increased the hair growth which is exhausting. Keep up the good work and good luck.
Brave girl, thanks for sharing this. I had the same problem as you. I’m finishing my laser sessions. I feel it’s worked on my body but no difference on my face. I’m considering electrolysis now.
My dearest Melis, I'm so sorry I never discovered this video until now. I know exactly why your hair grew back worse...and why others who commented below also had that experience. If I wrote the explanation all out it may be confusing so I'm going to add a link to a Dermatologist who does an excellent job explaining as well as educating about (true) laser hair removal and explains IPL hair removal. In short - the reason your hair grew back worse is because your hair growth was stimulated by the settings being too low. You & your co-worker were probably being cautious and had the settings too low. It's tricky because if they're too high you can burn but if it's too low it will stimulate hair growth especially for those of us with PCOS. MY TIP: Before someone starts ...or re-starts laser hair removal, shave the area and track the hair growth in a calendar (you can use those cheap little ones that come in the mail for free). See how long it takes to get stubble and keep shaving and tracking it. If possible, try to figure out when your hair is in it's "anagen phase" I hope this helps anyone with unwanted hair growth. ANOTHER TIP: I found using pure aloe vera pulp on the skin after a treatment helpful whether it was in a plant or in a bottle that I keep in the fridge. Good luck to all From Sunshine in Toronto Here is the link: th-cam.com/video/gzjEsfFd2yw/w-d-xo.html
Im so sorry your suffering with this, i have a hormone imbalance so its relentless sometimes, had Lazer and its all come back. You are beautiful dont doubt yourself!
This video made me so sad. You sound so sad and I totally feel your pain to some extent with unwanted hair growth. Too many woman have to go through so much money and pain just to rid their body of hair and I think the easier solution is society needs to stop being buttholes and let us have Hair and make that normal. We’re humans. We have hair covering our body. Some darker than others and everyone needs to not make us feel badly about it and make it more normal. You speaking up is one step to bringing awareness so thank you and best of luck with your hair removal🖤🖤
I'm a feminine male and I have to deal with the issues women face when it comes to beauty. Even though I'm not like most guys and while still identifying as a guy, I try my best to be as feminine as possible. I hate body hair, luckily as a 24 year old male I don't have it on my chest or stomach but I'd say my legs are the hairiest. I tried laser hair removal and it didn't work, so I'm considering electrolysis.
HAIR IS DISGUSTING APART FROM THE HEAD AND NEED TO BE REMOVED.PEOPLE WITH HAIR IN THESE PLACES ARE NOT ACCEPTABLE.
PEOPLE WHO DEPART FROM THE NORMAL ARE TO BE FEARED AND HATED.
I personally don’t give a crap what society says. I love smooth skin.
@ムスタファ That's not true. I only remember one single time that I was picked on by a girl in my life because of body hair. But when it comes to men, I remember countless boys and men who decided to let me know how they felt about my hair.
i did electrolysis for a year every week..very expensive but worth every penny..
i have pcos and i literaly had a little beard..now it's 99% gone.. soo happy i did it and really reccomend!
How was your healing process? How long did it take and was it noticeable
Hello! Electrolysis does not work for me done every month for almost 2 years can only see 10 to 15 hairs gone. She recommended me to do laser now no idea What to do.
I went through the same thing I'm soooo happy now..I didn't worry about the money I wasn't happy than I had done 40yrs ago..I'm 75yr old now don't wear makeup and look good..HAPPY HAPPY NOW...thank you Jesus
@@damnsodelicious2921my Dr. took blood work to see why the hair was coming..I when on birth control pills..this 40yrs ago I'm 75yr old now and honey you can't tell I went 2 time a week..I don't wear makeup..I had it bad
The same thing happened to me!!!! The laser on my face made my hair grow back so thick. I was so insecure I’ve been doing electrolysis for a year and my hair is all gone!
Bryce D. Same happened to me 😤
Omg now I’m scared !! I just bought a package for laser hair removal for my chin and I’m afraid to do it
You should only worry if you have PCOS or any other hormonal imbalance conditions. You should not get thicker regrowth if you don't have such conditions.
@@CurvaciousXOXO read my previous comment
Same happened to me after laser and I had my hormones checked by gp all ok according to blood test. Some independent body needs to confront this issue head on.☹
I have pcos and I truly think electrolysis should be covered on the NHS for this
true. but electrolysis is really expensive and time consuming for any other area that is NOT SMALL ie your neck, chin, nipples. NHS should cover other things to PREVENT pcos, instead of treating symptoms. I have pcos due to poor lifestyle choices during my childhood and teen years. I'm also doing electrolysis for chin hair. Would be nice to get pcos discount though
@@sweetycamy pcos is genetic...
@@alex______456 it may be genetic, but you need to work with what you can control. Very offtopic anyway. pcos Is exremely complex
@@sweetycamy you can't control it?? You're the one changing the topic and saying you can prevent it.
@@alex______456 pcos is not genetic. That’s why when you have it making lifestyle changes can prevent it
I admire you so much for doing this. You explained everything so clearly and honestly. xx
Sophie Smudge Thank you glad it helped! X
I'm on a hairy girl video binge because this has been my reality since I was 4 years old. It's my biggest insecurity to the point where I wished for alopecia universals during my teens. I've just finished 6 laser hair removal session and am feeling discouraged at the results. There has been a massive reduction in hair but not as much as I hoped.
I feel you
me too :(
Same im middle eastern and my parents are hairy 😡
laser hair removal isn’t permanent, electrilysis is. try that
I have been doing laser hair removal every two months for almost 10 years. I feel like in the last 3 years or so is when there has been enough reduction that I don't have to shave anymore. I started having hair growth when I was 4 years old as well. I used to be so ashamed of it as a child that I only wore long sleeve shirts and long pants, even though I lived in the Caribbean. There were many times when I felt like I was going to pass out from overheating. Anyways the moral of my story is you are going to need a lot more than 6 laser hair treatments to get to the point where you don't need to shave anymore. Laser worked really well for my arms, legs, underarms, and bikini. But on my face, not so much. Just sharing my experience.
let's hug, I'm a women with PCOS and have facial unwanted hair.I fell ya sis
Thank you thank you THANK YOU for being brave enough to share this. I work at a laser and elec. spa and the amount of women myself included that have hair on their face is insane and it has honestly made me more comfortable with myself. We treat roughly 20 women a day for facial hair some without pcos and others with it. I wish society would normalize it and it starts with people like you sharing your story and your struggles with it. You most certainly are not alone!
This is so reassuring to me. I've been tested for PCOs but have never been diagnosed with that nor any other hormone imbalance. I was so nervous to do laser a few years ago on my neck, but decided to take the plunge and after about 6 months my hair grew back SO much worse than it ever was beforehand. I'm so afraid I'll have the same reaction to electrolysis & I don't want to risk the hair getting even worse than it is now, but this gives me hope!! Thank you!!
So sorry you experienced the same thing! Electrolysis is the only solution and will not stimulate hair growth! Have a look at my channel I have updated videos showing my results and give more info! ☺️
Doctor isibor herbs and cleanser is what you should get to eradicate facial hair completely, no side effect and is one time permanent treatment for Hirsutism
You have just described the story of my life with facial hair!!!! 🤦♀️
Its really hard having a facial hair in upperlips ...it bacause im a female im so depressed having it on how to removed it...
Same problem I am suffering for a years😭😭😭
Same here planning to see an electrolysis ASAP
First thing I thought is how beautiful you are.
Just look at the Flowers Aww thank you 💗
What is the best thing then you think works fir PCOS cases?
Ditto !
She's beautiful 😍 ❤
Yeah .....i even love u as you are......😊😍😋
I cant describe my feelings when I watch your video... it's that much helpful that I can honestly say thanks from my heart ....
Go to an endocrinologist, if hormones are out of balance unfortunately whatever you do the hair will come back time and time again, fix your hormones first then treat the symptoms of them being out of balance / acne, hair and etc.
Thanks...I was told this before
There is no cure for PCOS. You can take birth control and other hormonal supplements, but unfortunately it won't lessen the hirsutism symptom. Many of the symptoms of PCOS have to be treated separately from the hormonal aspect or ignored, which is really hard to do when society sets the standard for what is acceptable regardless of the reasons why we are different.
A lot of the hormonal treatments for PCOS have such adverse effects, such as hair loss, it’s usually not a worthy trade.
My hormones are fully leveled... and I have a hairy face still
Stephanie Ortega no elevation in testosterone or DHEA-S?
You might have a hair problem, but what comes across more is your beautiful face and beautiful personality and in the long run thats what people will notice more
As an Electrologist I have worked on many young women with PCOS some have great results with just months of weekly visits and then a once in a few months visit, while others do suffer with so much hair it seems endless and discouraging. I use a blend of the two modalities galvanic and Thermolysis. I have never left the red escars that you receive from the service. I do believe that Electrology works, it is very difficult to know just how many treatments it could take and if your internal health is producing hormones causing more hair growth. I’m impressed with your presentation and honest results and continuous strength to keep track and believe
Electrolysis methods are better for the face, laser for the body (which is why there is regrowth on the face from laser most likely) but in all electrolysis methods are best.
I am electrologist that uses the Dectro Apilus equipment. I too have seen many clients with hair that got stimulated by laser treatments you did a great job with your video explaining a Electrolysis how long it takes to be finished andYour battle with the hormone problem thank you for sharing
Hi. Is it ok to use a 20 years old electrolyses machine ?
@ABCGo to have a consultation someplace.
Hi! Could I get your email to ask you questions about your machine? I’m looking into getting one now. How does it work for your clients? Do you work on dark skinned clients? If yes, how does it perform?
Hi.where are you based?
I had been diagnosed with PCOS some 8 yrs back and was suffering from facial hair on cheeks and chin. To my experience, I want to say very strongly that until unless we correct the root cause of the PCOS no laser or electrolysis gives us a permanent solution though we take therapies for years. Even if it seems permanently reduced, it is not permanent. Exercise, changes in diet, and lifestyle definitely help us in control the hormonal irregularity which consequently reduces facial hair growth. Along with that daily intake of 1 spoon of roasted flax seeds powder or soybean powder with hot water and spearmint tea helps in getting regular periods and controls the symptoms of PCOS.
What do u mean by lifestyle changes.... And also is pcos completely curable? 🥺
Thank you so much for this. You're post is the most honest and realistic of all the videos I've seen. I've had this problem since I was a teen and it's been so difficult. It makes you feel really insecure. I have pcos as well, unfortunately where I live I can't afford laser or electrolysis. But I am saving so hopefully I can do it soon.
I don't know if you'll ever see this message, but I want to say thank you. I had no idea what PCOS is before this video and I was searching for a long time for answers as to why I had thick hair growth on my face. So when you mentioned you had PCOS, I looked up more about it and all of the boxes check off. I'm 21, I've had terrible acne associated with my hair growth, irregular periods, and I never knew why. I didn't go to the doctor for it because I grew up thinking this is what all women go through, but I was wrong. Just now, when I stumbled across your informational video (and did more research) I realized it was time to get tested. Thank you. Thank you so much ❤️.
I'm currently writing about my own experience and watching your video gave me so much confidence! thank you for sharing your story xxxx
First off, you are very beautiful and courageous. I'm so sorry you go through this. It really is unfair that the standard hair removal made your condition worse. You are very brave for continuing to research and try different techniques.
I have PCOS when i was 13 years old
(its been 16 years now)
I can't afford any laser stuff. Its depressing.
Theres no way we can avoid it.
Hairybody and face
Oily face and pimples
Acne and dry skin
Getting fat
Getting diabetes
Being always sick and tired
Mood swings
Cravings for sweet
Dairy products give wreck to hormones
Irregular periods with painful cramps
Foods are limited
We gain weight for no reason
We lost confident
I even hate myself
jean doe You described almost every symptom I have!
Hi from Colorado. Please don't hate any part of your body. I have also been diagnosed with PCOS. I have endured fertility treatments to conceive my children. It was totally worth everything. I love my body, even though it is flawed. God bless.
jean doe
The fact that you live thinking like THAT and still go out is very inspiring, despite not being comfortable with how you look yet still go through life shows you’re a strong person so....😌
I feel this
@@kimarnette9318 is it true that its impossible to get pregnant with pcos? i recently found i hv pcos too...but im gaining weight and dark blavk hair on my chin
So thankful for you and your channel! I have PCOS and the same exact thing happened to me after laser treatments. My hair is darker and thicker in texture and now completely covers my lower face and neck. Just started my electrolysis journey and the girl I go to says it’s possible the laser stimulated the follicles resulting in all of the new growth. Thank you again for talking about this because it may help someone else avoid having to get electrolysis for hair they wouldn’t have otherwise had because of laser treatments.
Laser simulates the fine hair (peach fuzz) to grow back thicker.
Zee Niazi Wtf!!
No it doesn’t. I got laser, it makes it grow back thinner
@@beautifulchickennugget6081 yes it actually does. Peach fuzz responds negatively to laser with so many women, including myself
When I was 18 I used Biore pore strips about 8 times on my nose. It ripped off the light fuzz, but then dark hair grew in right after. When I extract a hair, it consists of 3-8 small thin hairs. I still have these hairs on my nose tip, they look like blackheads. My other issue is I was born with an extended hair line along side of my face.. also known as "side burns".
Thank you for sharing your experience with us..it really helps us all. I just subscribed now.
I get hairs on my nose too 😟
Thank you for your video! This has been so helpful and explained to me why I have received hair growth after Lasor with no hormonal imbalances. Doctors have not found any answers, but I fear I am not going to the right doctor. I am currently going into electrolysis now after years of Lasor work. I wished that insurance companies help to pay for this development of hair in women as it can cause depression and anxiety, The same way that some insurance helps to pay for Lasor or electrolysis for the transgender community. Instead every insurance company suggest that this is just a cosmetic procedure when women suffer with this problem and have no support from society pressures or medically.
You're beautiful girlee, thanks soooo much for being so REAL and TRANSPARENT with your life story, it was a teaching experience for me....thanks again. XOXO & Blessings and praying that you get the lasting results you need :-)
Hi Melis,
I also had hair removal treatment in my neck & chin area. I’m a graduated biology student in MA applying to medical school soon. I started getting facial hair growth myself a week after I had a prenatal pill along with a multivitamin pill. I’m positive of this because this is the only thing I had done different the week before I started seeing so many changes in my body. Also, I think this might have been the trigger to cause such quick hormonal imbalances. After this I decided to get laser treatment and my hair did keep growing back until I stopped eating processed meat. I stopped because when I went to visit the country where I was raised (Dominican Republic), I was eating everything there and I did not get any hair growth. But once I came back to he US I continued to eat processed meat and I got the hair growth back. After this I realized it had something to do with what I was eating. Before finishing my 9 laser sessions I started eating meat with no preservatives or antibiotics and this helped. I did end up getting a little bit of hair growth back so I decided to give up eating meat completely. Today, I only eat seafood. My advise to you is pay more attention to what your eating, this is key.
Best of luck,
Yacaira
Thank you so much for your advice! I am aware that diet plays a big role but I don't have enough self control yet. I'm still working on it. Thank you for sharing your experience it was very helpful!
Pancake Batter I’m not sure where you are getting (Mejia Fuentes Dominga Del Valle) from, I sign De La Cruz Santiago which is Dominican/Puerto Rican but anyways, it’s really challenging if you live in the US because here almost everything you can eat is processed. Did you have this problem as well? Thank you for your comment by the way.
So do you not get anymore hair now after stopping meat?
Location?
Wow, I am so glad I am hearing this. I don’t have PCOS from what I know but growing up I was extremely hairy. My labs show that I have slightly elevated testosterone. I spent years doing laser; 4 years on my legs and 3 years on my face. I noticed when I started laser on my face that the hair was much thicker and coarser. I continued along with it. Unfortunately, I still have hair on my chin and jawline. The upper lip hair is resolved.
I was thinking about doing electrolysis. Both my mom and sister have done it and have amazing results.
Thanks for the insightful video :)
The things women have to go through smh.....I'm about to start my electrolysis journey and wanted to get more information. Thanks for the video!!
This was the most informative video I had ever watch thank you and you are absolutely beautiful young lady 🙂
Hi Melis! Thanks for sharing your story. I too have PCOS and after years of waxing and tweezing my face and the hair growing in thicker and darker, I embarked on the electrolysis journey. I started back in March and have been going every two weeks for one hour sessions. It seems to be helping, but I am not entirely sure as I have not gone longer than two weeks without a session. The sessions are definitely pricey, but I am willing to make the investment if it helps with my facial hair in the long run. I am hoping my sessions get shorter and less frequent. Thanks again for sharing your story, it reminds me that I am not alone! :)
The sessions will get shorter in time! Hope it works out for you! x
Erica Lynn you are Definitely not alone !!!!!!! I thank God for Electrolysis !
How is it going now, did your face get clear now? How long did it take for electrolysis work?
Lovely to see, I have been doing electrology for 45 years and "seen it all." I mostly do "massive" hair removal ... backs and body areas ... yes, it can be done. Your video is nicely done.
How cost it is
Hi, though I come from a country like India where there are only professionals who cheat away the money of people even without knowing the science behind electrolysis. The hardest part is I have gone through a lot of mental agony for my condition without having any issues with hormone imbalance , the only thing is the vigorosity by which they shaved and left me nowhere. But I am sure that thermolysis and electrolysis are the best possible tools. I felt you are right in saying that it really works unlike others. May you get a lot of customers treated at your clinic.
Wanted to know if you were reachable to me in India
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@@reenusukumaran987 plz suggest me best electrolysis hair removal treatment in india
Thanks Mel, I’m going to try electrolysis in 2020. This video helped me very much and also was very inspiring for someone who also suffers from pcos
Angelica Heisler me too
Something similar happened to me! I was so upset that laser made my condition worse, to the point that electrolysis had to go fix their (laser) mistakes. Laser also gave me pigmentation on my face. Also where I went the lady was only interested in selling me lotions than focussing on my concerns. Thanks for your honest video and if you are reading please always choose electricolysis over laser. Electrolysis is PERMANENT, laser is not
Don’t be sorry girl, you’re a woman and these odd things happen to us. I have the same issue and am back to electrolysis and I know it’s the best. You’re beautiful.
Really informative video. Always had 1 or 2 "hag hairs" on my chin as an adult. Since hysterectomy in 2017 (I'm 53), they have become more numerous/thicker. They also cause my face to break out in spots and for the first time ever I'm considering electrolysis. Waxing actually tore the top layer of my skin off, which then became infected and scabby (yum). Creams leave my skin sore and taught and shaving leaves stubble that looks like black heads. Your video was the most honest and informative I've seen yet. Good luck and thanks.
It is so difficult when almost all forms of hair removal doesn't work with your skin. I experienced the same thing but have finally found something that works for me. I hope electrolysis works for you too give it a go!
@@melisatesbel Thank you x
Katie, my problem is exactly same as yours. Had the same experience with waxing too, sad. Pls share your experience with electrolysis. I am tweezing the 10--15 hairs on my chin as of now. They just grow back. No other issues with this method so far. But am on the lookout for a permanent solution. Many, many years ago, I did have a few "hag" hairs near my navel, which I had just a couple of sessions of electrolysis for and it never came back.
I am over 39 years old. I have this hair growth when I was 21, but I checked it several times, it had nothing to do with my endocrine system. I never had PCOS, or thyroid disorders. I was pretty much normal other than slightly asthmatic and consuming steroids in the forms of inhalers and rarely in the form of shots. I went through Lazer and it really got worse, then through electrolysis which helped me, but since I got married I moved to some other place and the only option there was laser. Though I tried convincing the dermatologist that it would bring the worst results, I had no other go. I am severely affected as I have a 100 times more hair now..
Thank you sooooo much for doing this video! I also have PCOS and I’ve decided to go to laser as I found electrolysis super painful. Thank you so much again this has really helped me
Glad it helped! I hope laser works out better for you than it did for me x
It doesn't have to be painful get someone who uses the apilus range waaay faster way more comfortable.
I have PCOS and started with laser. I had that same issue of it growing back wildly worse and this was during my routine sessions. I didn't take a break from it. I'm actually going to start electrolysis soon hoping that will end my grief and embarrassment once and for all.
It will honestly change your life! I’m so happy with my electrolysis results. You can watch my updated video if you like but long story short, electrolysis is the best and only solution at this point!
I had the same experience with laser hair removal, after a year of treatment that looked maybe 50% better, and now a year post treatment, I feel that my hair is growing back worse than when I went in.
Electrolysis is only method that can advertise permanent hair removal not reduction. Also laser should not be put over thyroid on neck...
Thank you for sharing this beautiful! I shall too be investing in electrolysis soon cause I’m just tired of how this is affecting my anxiety and self esteem. It’s only my face that is problematic and the face is what everyone sees first! I’m only 23 and I’m just done with this, I want it to go away so I can be comfortable in my skin again! Thank you so much for sharing your story, I don’t feel like I’m the only one anymore and thanks to all the ladies commenting below about their experience! ❤️
anxvm You’re welcome! It will change your life just be patient with it x
I have pcos also and It’s been about a year since I stopped doing laser hair removal since I moved to a different state. My hairs have grown back but it’s not bad but still it makes me insecure. I have been recommended BC which has helped a lot but i wanna be able to have children one day . It’s a struggle and I wish I didn’t have facial hair at all :(.
May I ask you one thing. You have had laser on your body too, would you like to reveal whether body hair returned too or not, if yes was it reduced or thin or same prior to the laser procedures? Would be thankful if you do reply!
i don’t have PCOS, but i did do laser on my face because i thought it would get rid of the hairs i had. i was wrong; it made it worse. my hair grew back thicker and darker, and i was upset. it looked like yours, but it a bit more thicker. i started electrolysis in February 2019 and i would go every week for one hour. the hair growth was so bad my lady told me i should be coming in a few times a week for one hour. it is now July 2019, and i have seen results like no other. i am so so happy i did electrolysis because it got rid of all of my hair. we are now working on my sideburn area and after that i should be coming in every few months. i am so sorry this happened to you, but i hope you get the results you need from electrolysis.
Laser made my hair worse too!!!!! I'm now going to electrolysis but I can't see results. I'm scared its making the hair worse too! Hows your hair now?
@@ViNtAgELovv11 omg no way? if u think electrolysis is making ur hair worse, PLEASE look up other places to go, because it should not do that. My lady is located in Tarzana, CA, if you are around that area I can give more info. As for my hair growth, omg its gone! I go every couple of months to get rid of the lighter hairs around my neck area but that's it! its amazing honestly and i hope u see results like i did.
Thank you for being so candid about your experience. I made the mistake of starting to pluck, shave, wax, cut and just generally fuss about with my facial hair and it's the worst thing I ever did. I haven't been diagnosed with pcos but there's something going on in my body.
I have a laser removal appointment booked for a consultation and I am glad I watched this first. I was under the impression laser would be a permanent solution but it would appear not for many ladies.
On another note, you're beautiful regardless of facial hair and I again thank you for being so honest xxxx
LASER CAUSED ME MORE HAIR GROWTH. Hair started growing in new places where she ran the laser over "just in case." I'm now scared that electrolysis is doing the same thing. I've been doing it for a few months, and hairs are growing farther out in my cheekbones than they ever did before. How can I know its not doing the same thing? Has anyone had experience with this? I'm so frustrated and upset.
Same thing happen with me
I have only chin hair, after laser I starts growing more hair on neck n chickbones..now I'm going for waxing ..no laser at all
Hi! I have PCOS and I really appreciated this video as I was interested in laser hair removal
Thank you so much for talking about the PCOS hair struggle ❤️
You should go every 4 weeks. I am a boy, i just started my electrolysis on me face. (was hard to find a doctor who would accept a guy?! Yeah. Thank god i found one that said yes). The session is really painful. Her clients need maximum 10 sessions for complete hair removal, except hands it takes 3 approximately.
Hope everyone has a nice day.
Femboy?
Hey what are your results like? Did the hair grow back? Please share.
Thanks ❤
Please keep me and others updated about the treatment results.
I cannot even begin to explain how much I relate to this. The soul crushing realization that something you may have done in hopes to make your situation better has actually made it worse and you can't go backwards. It's so hard when it's your face... Laser made my facial hair worse and it tanked my self esteem. I wish women talked more freely about stuff like this so that we can break stigmas about hair and to not just feel so worthless.
LASER MADE MY HAIR WORSE TOO. Did you get electrolysis afterwards, and did it help? I'm now getting electrolysis but I'm scared that the same thing is happening. Hairs are growing farther out in my cheekbones than they ever did before.
@@ViNtAgELovv11 I can't say it made it better because I didn't stick with it long enough because of COVID... I think it has. But I can tell you that it didn't get worse.
I feel so sad and happy about watching this video. I'm sad because I know how it is to have a lot of facial hair and you do everything you can to get rid of it and it just keeps coming back I suffer from PCOS and it's really hard for me I'm already Italian so I have a lot of dark body hair but I have like excessive amounts of hair on my like lower legs my lower back my arms and then I just started getting like a beard when I was 17 and it makes me upset every single day cuz I'm constant touching my neck and my face wondering if anyone sees these super dark black hairs that are on my face but I'm also happy because I'm realizing the more I watch videos like this there is more people that feel the same way that I do and have the same problem that I do and I'm not alone listening to this video honestly makes me feel like it's going to be okay but I'm not the only one that has this so thank you for that
This is my situation right now. My hair started growing really thick after waxing. I use tweezers almost every 2-4 days. Its very time consuming😔
Me too its really sad and pain
Me too and it’s so embarrassing. I constantly move my
Partners hand when he wants to touch my chin because I don’t want him to feel iy
Its sad how all of us have to go through this pain.
Me too my marriage is suffering too bc of this.
My sideburns and peach fuzz are killing me
From watching other peoples videos with pcos, the theory is that once you remove hair from one side of your face, if you arent treating the hormones, they are still there and will stimulate hair growth somewhere else. Another woman did a video on laser hair removal on her face, and because she removed her facial hair, it started to grow on her neck. I experienced this :(
All I can say is "I feel you cysta". People do not understand how it affects your life. You literally think about your excess hair every day, especially if it's on your face. The stares and then you get people who comment - as if I'm oblivious to it. Just trying to get through the day without being shamed for something you can't control. Have done 2 rounds of IPL Laser (probably 12 sessions each), knowing that it would take time, but the shaving for maintenance in between just made it so much worse. The second round though I felt like I was seeing more results. Once the results plateaued, I started with Epilfree Waxing; it's been about 2yrs now. Still have plenty of hairs left. Recently read that the waxing might have even been stimulating the hairs (How depressing and discouraging!?). Now considering going for Electrolysis and really hoping it works for me too. (Just so ready to be free from this prison, you know?). And recently started moving to a Gluten-Free diet and Spearmint Tea, in addition to my medication to try help with symptoms.
My first laser round made me grow more hair! It was horrible. But they must have improved the technology because the second time 10 years later cleared it all! I'm so thankful. Electrolysis was waaaaaay to painful and didn't even work.
I’m so thankful to the beauty center I’m having my laser hair removal in. They didn’t accept removing my facial hair they told me it will grow worse
Asma Rasheed if only they said me the same
Wish mine had told me...
I have never commented on such videos on youtube before, but yours is so spot on and I could finally relate to a story from beginning to end that I feel I have to share my own story with laser.
I have struggled with facial hair for a long time too.. and I thought it only got worse after waxing (some hairs got thicker and others would grow back as ingrown hair) until I did laser sessions for a year and a half and stopped; that's when another - bigger - problem has emerged !
After the first 2 laser sessions I was so happy with the result - since I had a few dark hairs on my chin that got thinner so quickly - that I decided to extend the area to my sideburns as well. I kept recommending laser treatment to my friends and I enjoyed having a clean face for months (knowing that I had a session every 3 weeks that cost 80$ each). But the moment I stopped having laser I noticed that my hair growth has become even worse! I started having hair around my neck that I didn't have before and now it's becoming thicker which is really frightening. I have no hormonal problem and my case is actually a paradoxal hair growth as you said. Now I really don't know what to do since I am one of those rare cases who experience this side effect I am afraid it would happen with any other method I try! You never think of yourself having a rare side effect until it happens to you. Now all I do avoid touching it even though I don't think I can live with it any longer and will probably try bleaching or something (actually that's how I stumbled upon this video). I mean I tried both waxing and threading before laser and wasn't satisfied with the result or just how fast it kept growing back. I'm sharing this only to say that if it had happened to you, you reader, you're not the only one. I still don't know what to do about it but..I'm hopeful.
Hi, thank you for sharing your story. It's nice to be assured that we're not alone. I do highly recommend electrolysis it won't make the hair worse. It just takes a long time to get results.
This is exactly why I chose NOT to do laser. Funny how “professionals” will deny deny deny that hair can grow back thicker, darker and in places it didn’t grow this way prior, yet there is an entire diagnosis and term for exactly that condition called paradoxical hypertrichosis 🙄. I didn’t need the terminology to know this is a very real thing that happens to us, but from personal experience I know this condition is very real. They try to make us think we’re delusional. They say it’s “rare” but I’ve watched so many vision women who have this same problem
@@elettramia6380 Thanks for your comment, Elettra. Wow it's been 2 years now since my comment and a lot has happened since. I decided to invest in a Philips laser that cost me 350€ then (now around 400) from the lumea series... and I can't be happier! I used it regularly for half a year then stopped for almost a year before starting again this month, and what can I say... I'm blown away!! The results lasted LONG after I stopped, which was not the case when I had laser sessions with a professional.. and I could've probably waited some more before starting again. Some friends and even my sibling used it too after I recommended it and they're all happy with it, especially when they stop and realize too that the hair growth is unbelievably reduced for many many months! Just putting this here it might help some of you! I still don't know how it's working better than seeing a professional but it does and it's cost effective too so it's worth a try in my opinion. Especially that there are no extra costs after that!
Thank you for sharing this!! I am currently suffering from a hormonal imbalance that I found out 2 weeks ago. I am almost certain that I have PCOS but more tests need to be done to fully diagnose me. I am experiencing everything you have and Its quite depressing but After seeing this It reminds me that I am not alone.
You’re definitely not alone x
The place I got laser hair removal had an experienced trained RN so she taught me some things. I used to get my underarms and ‘Brazilian’ which are sensitive areas for me. I wanted to do this on my legs, but she advised that I’d be wasting money since it works best on dark hair and that light colored hair (light brown or blond) gets nourished by the laser heat so it doesn’t “kill” it.
For pain, ask your physician to prescribe you Lidocaine. It’s a white cream that you apply to the skin (apply a thick layer) and keep it on for 1hr before your session and it will numb the skin. Place plastic food wrap over it to keep it from rubbing off. It works great, I promise!!! I used to cringe when I got my Brazilian done, but an esthetician on TH-cam who does elect recommended Lidocaine and it was truly pain free (my pain tolerance is usually high). Laser isn’t permanent so I’m looking into electrolysis now. Laser hair removal does grow back if you stop doing the touch-ups. I wish you the best outcome, keep doing electrolysis!
SAME experience. Had laser hair removal on upper lip and chin. Before laser hair removal I had some fuzz on the chin, nothing egregious. My upper lip did okay with laser, like yours. My chin...exploded with dark thick hairs. Your photos are so similar to how my chin looks now.
The worst part is feeling gaslit by the laser hair removal workers making me feel like I was the one doing something wrong. Nobody believed that my hair got worse BECAUSE of the laser. It's validating to know someone else had the same exact experience. It's 100% the laser causing the hair growth.
It's been over 10 years and I still haven't figured out how to get rid of the chin hairs. :(
I highly recommend electrolysis! Watch my next update where I show you my results: th-cam.com/video/XMZTdineQuI/w-d-xo.html
As a girl who is 23 y.o please read carefully. I've been through the same process and I totally got rid of all my facial hair. I am a hairy girl and my hormones are supporting it and at 7 I started waxing bikini area, armpits and I was really sensitive about even 1 hair folicule. At 14 I started to have laser hair removal to my face and my face become like man beard and it followed by inflamed hair root causing acne and my face was in terrible situation with soooo many hair and acne. What laser does to facial hair is since the roots are not so thick, it literally triggers the hair and wakes up the sleeping roots and causes the hairs you won't even see becomes darker and thicker and results with beard-like hairs. At 18 I found a woman in İstanbul who does the great job in electrolysis and went her. It took 22 hours in 2 days. I was numbed and literally slept while she was doing the job. I got rid of each hair and result was perfect. A year later maybe quarter of the hair came back with same strong and I went to her again. And now its been 4 years I am totally clean and I see the ONLY AND ONLY WAY TO GET RID OF THE HAIR IS ELECTROLYSIS. PLEASE DON'T EVEN TRY SOMETHING ELSE. AND BE SURE THAT YOUR ESTHETICIAN DON'T PULL THE HAIR WITH TWEEZER AFTER GAVE THE ELECTRIC SHOCK WITH NEEDLE. MAKE SURE HAIR IS COMING TO TWEEZER WITHOUT FORCING/PULLING WITH TWEEZER. And don't worry everything has a solution as long as we are healthy. Nevermind the rest of it. Everything will be ok ❤
wdym they can't pull the hair? the video i saw by "your hairy godmother" she pulled it out i think
@@sillymonkey7811 Probably means, if there's tension when pulling the hair, the laser didn't do it's job.
Can you send me the woman’s contact that helped with yours ? Please and thank you
@@nkechichima-ogbuiyi4486Merhaba Türkiye'deyim ama İstanbul'da değil baska bir şehrinde ve garika iğneli yapan bir kadija gidiyorum
Pcos var mıydı ?
You are so brave! I want to do electrolysis for my upper lip and chin so much but I am too afraid of the pain(I imagine its excruciatinggg) and I have thick hair so growing it out would be super embarrassing. Sigh. You look so good! So happy for you!
BulletproofQpid Thank you! The lip is quite painful I’ve tried it once 😖 growing it out at the beginning stages is embarrassing so I would book the appointment as soon as the hair grew through my skin. I also covered it with a scarf so nobody would notice (first time I appreciated London being cold all the time) ☺️
I also did my upper lip, i mean I couldn’t finish it was so painful but i want to do it on another part of my face
One day you will make a video : how I cured my PCOS ❤️
You unfortunately cannot cure PCOS. I have PCOS too. You can only treat the symptoms but there is no way to rid yourself of PCOS entirely
@@SharlizeLyn what are the consequences of Pcos? is it impossible to get pregnant? i just got to know i hv pcos too..im kinda worried...anf have a lot of dark black hair and its kinda annoying
@@kppi.1161 , i think it's different for everyone because it can manifest differently. Apparently there are 5 types of PCOS. I'm only familiar with mine.
My symptoms included:
- rapid sudden weight gain
- erratic periods. Like I would have a reverse period (bleed for 3 weeks, 4 days clear, and then repeat). And then it would shift to having no periods for 7 months.... and then bleeding for 10 months straight. It was completely unstable and almost left me anaemic.
- I became insulin resistant. People with PCOS can become insulin resistant much faster than others. Which is what triggered the sudden weight gain.
- the most obvious thing that gave me the diagnosis was that a scan revealed my ovaries are inflamed and are covered in cysts around the edge (hence POLYCYSTIC OVARY in PCOS). These cant be removed because they're basically everywhere. Google images if you're not squeamish
- and a few doctors told me I was infertile and was not ovulating despite bleeding so much . But fortunately this can be reversed.
So as a result... I am on birth control. This is the typical method of hormone therapy used to manage my period and hormone issues. So as long as I'm on the pill, I'll have a stable period once a month.
And my hormones are the wrong way around. So I have low oestrogen levels and high progesterone. These levels usually trigger a period , which is why I would constantly bleed . So because the oestrogen levels are very low, the effects of testosterone are more harsh on the body. I dont have any more testosterone than I should but I have too little oestrogen to balance it out. So I have thicker hair and my hair on my head falls out quite a bit, so I avoid brushing it too too much.
I'm also on metformin (anti diabetic medication) to reverse the insulin resistance. Because IR is pre-diabetes. It can be reversed before it progresses to full out type 2 diabetes.
The best advice i can offer is to go to a gynae (if you have not already), and be put on a birth control pill that agrees with your body and that "corrects" the imbalance. Because if you have pcos, you MUST have some hormone imbalance. the pill basically can help when it comes to having children. Apparently when you and your partner are ready to have children, you use the pill as you would if you were using it for contraceptive purposes, and try to conceive immediately after stopping the pill. I am not married or interested in children right now, so I cant speak from experience on the topic of conceiving with PCOS, but A LOT of women in my family had undiagnosed reproductive issues (probably pcos , because it is hereditary) and struggled excessively to conceive. Because back then it was taboo to go to a gynae and they had weird myths about why people who struggle to conceive etc. Silly shit honestly .
I hope this helps. My best advice is to use the pill and manage the symptoms. Realistically that is the best you can do but also kinda all you can do. You cant reverse pcos. But if you would be open with adopting children, then you could have your ovaries removed and will no longer suffer with symptoms . But that is the last resort and is usually considered after managing to have kids and wanting to be rid of the symptoms.
All the best hun
Sharlize Hendricks i heard that boilling water with oignon like for 2 oignons 2 cup of water you put them too boiled and boiled for 5 minitufe and then you have to drink it during one week avery month after the periods week and people who had it says it worked it maybe not easy to drink but why not to try this every month and then see with the doctor some people are really greatfull with that
I cured pcos by going vegan
The same thing happened to me. I got laser on my face and within a few months it grew back worse than ever before. I might have PCOS since it runs in my family but I haven’t been diagnosed yet. I’m sick of waxing/ plucking so I’m going to start electrolysis soon.
Never happened to me. For me it actually slowed the rate at which it grew back. I only get a couple of treatments for maintenance.
I am so glad that I watched your video and going to tell future clients to watch this. I am an electrologist and agree with almost everything that you stated. I do have a problem with the pictures that you showed after your first treatment. I have never had a client leave my office that experienced scabs appearing after treatment. This should not happen. You might get irritation, swelling and redness but never ever scabs...this can lead to scars which I have from previous electrolysis treatments. You also might be getting these scabs from the type of treatment you are receiving. I perform thermolyis only and I believe that the blend or glavanic method can do this. Good luck with your treatment.
I'm also an electrolygist and thought the same as you. It's very unusual to get scabs like the photo from electrolysis. I wouldn't like people to be put off electrolysis by that first photo.
You know, when I was diagnosed with Pcos... my Dr asked me if my Mother was given a medication for morning sickness when she was pregnant with me... I asked my Mother. She told me yes. I guess my Dr told me they thought there was a link once between PCOS and a medication given to Mothers for morning sickness. Anyone else ever hear of that? Makes u wonder??
Kelly Chance wow never heard of that.. Im gonna ask my mom now.
Interesting?
Not here, my mother went off all medications, even for her anxiety, and my sister and I both have PCOS. We're starting to think it's exposure to a toxin in the environment during early development.
I was told by a dr once they noticed a connection to the mom being extremely stressed during pregnancy..
I dont know about that but I've noticed that becoming pretty common.
This is an interesting theory. I am going to look into it
hmm, well you just did a fine job of making me decide to ditch the idea of lazer and go back to tried and true electrolysis. thanks for posting this.
You wont regret it.
I lasered my face. After like three sessions the hair was still there. It didn't become thiner or thicker though. But after switching It to a weaker laser device my hair started to grow back a lot worse. That mistake I made.
Remember the laser only works on active hair follicles. They could be brand new hairs that just popped out because you are getting older. They definitely are not the same hairs that you had electrolysis on.
Thank you for your video. Unfortunately, "paradoxical hair regrowth" happens so often after laser hair removal on face, that this terminology is probably commercial trick to hide from clients irresponsibility of beauty industry for providing damaging manipulation.
Thank you for this video and your honesty!!! The photos are great to see and I am so inspired by your courage. This is not easy to talk about!
It’s laser. You got a paradoxal hair growth. Electrolysis is the best when it comes to face!!!!! It takes forever (anything between 1 to 1.5 year) but the results are very satisfying!!!!! People shouldnt use laser on face.
I have been an electrologist for over 50 years, and I feel by what you’re saying, it was your pcos that caused more hair growth.
Also, you shouldn’t have scabs after electrolysis, for the treatments to be effective.
i'm so stuck for what to do in regards to treatment. I was gonna get laser hair removal done but now I really don't know. I was diagnosed with PCOS because I have very thick and dense dark hair on my face and neck, basically its like beard growth in men. I also get hair underneath my belly button, but I don't have a hormone imbalance. I have to shave everyday and I hate getting physically close to people because i dont want them to see my face up close. I don't know whether to just try laser and see how I react with it or what :/
I’m not sure who told you that you don’t have hormonal imbalance because, even with genetic predispositions, that’s what causes PCOS AND hirsutism without having pcos. Detoxing the body for a more alkaline system and balancing the hormones through diet, exercise, clean water, stopping steroid use (internal and external) WILL help thin the hairs and very possibly they will fall out or stop growing back with time. In the meantime, it could definitely be worth trying electrolysis or IPL but don’t expect long term results without doing internal healing.
It’s your age, that’s why they recommend to do this after 25, some spend thousands before 22/25 and then it grows back cuz you get this last hormonal boost around 25.
I have PCOS and had laser hair removal on my chin. Big mistake. It was ok for a year after that hair started to grow on my neck where I never had if before. PCOS always finds its way. Only way to deal with it is balancing body from the inside.
Have you checked your thyroid? Did they laser over the throat area?
@@sarahsmyth5383 I had thyroid removal surgery 3 years before laser. They didn't laser my throat area, only chin.
So glad to watch this video. Also have pcos, spent thousands having laser. 3 months after completing 14 painful sessions, facial hair has grown denser and darker and in a beard formation which i now have to remove every few days! So disheartened and upset to feel like I'm not achieving results and then there's the acne and hair loss to cope with too... Decided now to completely focus on doing everything i can to stabilise the hormones before having to try electrolysis but self esteem is completely gone at this stage with this pcos battle.
I had and still occasionally have electrolysis done, mostly jawline and a bit upper lip. I didn't have as much hair as you did, but a significant amount that caused me so much stress and shame. I didn't wanna be touched. It is much better now, disregarding the odd hair. It all started when I started to pluck hair in that area. I stopped doing it and it helped a lot. I'm getting laser treatment done on my body, hope it won't be a waste- All the procedures are soooo expensive! Thanks for being so open - for a long time I thought I was the only hairy woman.
I hate that you're going through this, but I am so relieved that im not alone. I always felt disgusting about it and it's a hard thing to deal with. I shave my face every day and my skin is so irritated, but if I don't, I have THICK, VISIBLE facial hair.
Aww,Bless your heart,I too are going thru the same thing that's why I'm here, My 33rd birthday are Sunday the 19th and I'm filling very insecure now after dealing with this all my life,,My Son asked just the other day,,Momma why you have a mustache like a man 🤦♀️😥🤷♀️😭
How the hell did u afford electrolysis for a year and a half 😰
It isnt all that expensive like £60 for an hour.
Hahaha what a very stupid question asking someone?, “How the hell dd she afford? “ isn’t it obvious that she’s financially stable? 🤣🤣🤣
@@angelonearth8904 wow how needlessly rude and judgemental
@@alex______456 Seems you didn’t understand or maybe not reading my comment i guess hahaha
Someone was doing that treatment bcoz of her financial stability. She can, why not! Thats supposedly to @ Abigale Kirsten.
@@angelonearth8904 you literally just insulted a stranger for no reason. Whatever your point was it was needless to do
Hun I'm sure you already know.. but diet and excerise is a MASSSSSSSSSSSSIVE game changer when it comes to PCOS having struggled with it myself for years esp the facial hair, I noticed my horrendous diet made my hair thicker and come back as fast as lightening. However as soon as I changed my diet, worked out 4/5x a week and used a cream called vaniqa - has to be prescribed my hair became thinner, not all but just some.. I still have to remove my hair every single freaking day.. and worst part is sometimes it's not even grown enuf to be removed so I sit there painting my face with layers upon layers of foundation to hide it as I haaaaaate the way people judge. Diet and exercise and stress...if you can grab hold of these you WILL see changes there's no cure for PCOS but even the smallest change will make a big difference to your life! Best of luck to the PCOS gang! ❤️
I did laser and it made it worse. I never grew hair in my chin and when they did the laser I started to get it. I was so annoyed.
Then why would you get laser removal if you didn't get any hairs?
Crystal O I don’t know. I had soft hair in my cheeks and mustache area. So I told the lady only those parts and she ended up doing all the face. I was like, it’s okay I don’t have hairs there either way who cares... but turns out I got hairs in those parts I didn’t.
@@TheVaaLee THE SAME THING HAPPENED TO ME! Its horrible! I'm so mad! Have you done electrolysis to get rid of those new hairs? I am doing it now but can't see results yet....I'm scared the same thing is going to happen
@@TheVaaLee what kind of laser
@@emilyeah idk just the regular Laser hair removal 👀
Hey Melis! I have PCOS as well. One thing that I discover during a medical congress is never user pulsed light treatments if you have PCOS. It'll come back worst or in other area of your body. The best choice is LASER hair removal treatments or electrolysis. Also, it's very important to watch your diet. The low carb diet and keto diet are the best . :)
Simone McKee Thanks for the info! I had no idea ipl could make it worse but I’m glad that I went back to electrolysis. The hair is pretty much gone now. I struggle with following diets but definitely need to find a way to stick to it. Thanks again ☺️
I hate when people say hair can't grow back worse....yes it can. I plucked ONE hair in my arm and that one hair always grows back darker in comparison to the other ones
Melis, I love your videos. I am an Electrologist, which is an Electrolysis Specialist. I have been freeing people from unwanted hair for over 30yrs. Your explanations are very good, to the point. I would like to send people enquiring to your TH-cam videos. What a beautiful woman you are with this hair problem. I suggest to have your treatments closer together. Yes, long, fine hair will need to be removed to stop your future problem.Cheers Anne Michelle- Elcetrologist in Nelson, New Zealand.
I have PCOS. I used yag laser and did 12 treatments and still have fine hair in some parts... it’s not going to go away... we can only control it and maintain it from getting too thick.❤️
soumya joy hi there.. did you do laser on the face as well if so, are they fine hairs like peach fuzz?
How about your facial hair? Is it getting worse after you used yag laser?
It’s actually better after yag... however you can still see some fine hair like the peach fuzz in some areas... I have not done anything since COVID to maintain it but it doesn’t look bad like it did before
@@isoumyai did you do your laser on the face?
Yes I did it on my face because I have PCOS... I did my sideburns and upper and lower chin areas
one of the reasons that may promote more hair growth on face after laser treatment it's because it may have a reversive effect, which means instead of making it disappear it will help it to grow it faster and thicker. this is what I heard from a documentary video.
I want electrolysis done but that spotty scab thing has scared me a little.
Not everybody scabs you should try it and see how your skin reacts. But I should mention that I recently went to a new electrologist and she used a different technique I've never seen before and I didn't experience any scabbing
@@melisatesbel I did go to have it done and she gave me a bullshit excuse about how she thinks electrolysis isn't right for me (i think the amount on my face scared her off) kept telling me it could take years and that it's really for people that have 1 or 2 chin hairs and basically told me to go.
Madea Before laser came out they use to do legs arms underarms with electrolysis so yeah that is a really bad excuse. It is for anybody and I highly recommend it for facial hair
I have the same problem. I want to say you are so beautiful and i love how proper you speak!
How are things going now with eletrolysis and the unwanted dark hairs?
Thank you so much for this video and sharing your experience so honestly! So informative and relatable. Also didn't know there's a 'british institute and association of electrolysis' that was really good to learn about!
At this point i'm still very shocked with the negative result I got after suffering from PCOS for so long 😊 once again DR RORPOPOR HERBAL on TH-cam for your natural supplements.💯💯
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I totally feel you 😔for me I have a hairy body, and face but never tried to get it off I'm afraid it will grow thicker than anytime before.
So I just keep it as it is this is my DNA! I can't change it so.... Let's be ourselves
I have PCOS and my hairs went right around my face from side burn to side burn and the entire area under my chin and neck. I have been getting electrolysis for one year now. I started off doing two hours per week and increased to 4 hours per week from May - August of this year. Where I live it costs $75 CAD per hour. I've likely spent close to $10,000 and only now am I reducing to one hour per week. This is to give you an idea of how often you need to go if you have a serious case of facial hair. I'll be continuing for at least the next year. I no longer shave at all I just let her deal with them every week, some still grow long but it's no where near what it was. I would say 80% is likely gone for good at this point. I would like to say though, I have maybe had ONE scab in all of the time I have been receiving treatment. This is not normal and will lead to scarring. They can turn down the frequency of their machine. Unfortunately scarring is common from what I hear if you don't find a very good electrolysist.
How is your facial hair now? Is it completely gone? I am doing electrolysis only over a year so far.. not much results yet because it’s so expensive I had to cut down to two times a month 😔 was thinking of doing laser with the alexandrite machine but I mal scared of all these comments saying it will make it worse. But I’m so tired of waiting for electrolysis to be over :(
Unfortunately I've experienced the same thing as you. I've heard of the treatment you're describing here and I'll give it a try. Of course hormonal treatments work as well and I should try it on again. The lazer has only increased the hair growth which is exhausting. Keep up the good work and good luck.
Brave girl, thanks for sharing this. I had the same problem as you. I’m finishing my laser sessions. I feel it’s worked on my body but no difference on my face. I’m considering electrolysis now.
My dearest Melis, I'm so sorry I never discovered this video until now. I know exactly why your hair grew back worse...and why others who commented below also had that experience. If I wrote the explanation all out it may be confusing so I'm going to add a link to a Dermatologist who does an excellent job explaining as well as educating about (true) laser hair removal and explains IPL hair removal. In short - the reason your hair grew back worse is because your hair growth was stimulated by the settings being too low. You & your co-worker were probably being cautious and had the settings too low. It's tricky because if they're too high you can burn but if it's too low it will stimulate hair growth especially for those of us with PCOS. MY TIP: Before someone starts ...or re-starts laser hair removal, shave the area and track the hair growth in a calendar (you can use those cheap little ones that come in the mail for free). See how long it takes to get stubble and keep shaving and tracking it. If possible, try to figure out when your hair is in it's "anagen phase" I hope this helps anyone with unwanted hair growth. ANOTHER TIP: I found using pure aloe vera pulp on the skin after a treatment helpful whether it was in a plant or in a bottle that I keep in the fridge. Good luck to all From Sunshine in Toronto Here is the link: th-cam.com/video/gzjEsfFd2yw/w-d-xo.html
Im so sorry your suffering with this, i have a hormone imbalance so its relentless sometimes, had Lazer and its all come back. You are beautiful dont doubt yourself!