⁴ᴷ⁶⁰ New R211 Subway Cars EMI (Electro-Magnetic Interference) Testing on the Sea Beach Line
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ต.ค. 2024
- Here we see the brand-new R211 Subway Cars being tested on the Sea Beach Line to test the level of EMI (Electro-Magnetic Interference) that the cars emit. This is important in order to ensure that the train will not interfere with other electrical components in the subway system and in use by riders on the train. This video is a comprehensive look at the train as it traverses the Sea Beach Line's middle track. Enjoy!
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Taken in February 2022.
Those unused center tracks are ideal for testing equipment. .
Thanks for sharing😀😀
Ill always keep saying this, these things look bizzare with their small windows
They’re gonna feel kinda claustrophobic inside too, especially when it’s packed. I’m fine with expanding the doors but I wish they made them go in between the window panes or put them on the outside like the tube does. I hope the 262s do that, these look weird. Everything else about them looks great though.
I have a spriital feeling that they are gonna build the brand new R262/as open gateways and close gateways I'm telling you.
The Brand New R262/as will definitely have wider doors just like the R142/as R143 s R179 R160as R160Bs.
The mock-up R211 looks better than the actual R211
They could’ve kept the windows the same size at the ones on older models if the R211s were made as 75 footers like originally intended
I love the shot at 15:40, with the dual trains from overhead POV. Really cool. Wish i were there.
Can see just how much longer the R46 is compared to the R211
I really like the slanted LED headlight design!
12:35 The screech has begun
I like how at 3:49 nobody on the platform noticed a brand new train that isn't even in service yet.
Maybe they did, and just don't care cuz, due to the protracted testing they will never ride them in our lifetimes....
Not really a train fan, but I like how MTA kept the side and roof looks except the front into like the older subway trains.
Otherwise they wouldn’t really fit into the tunnel and it’s also called fleet commonality.
I can't wait for these new trains to run
2:21 just notice how the R211 kindly waits to race his arch nemesis the R46
2:19 the only time the r46 will beat the r211s at being in the station fully first.
Couldn’t keep it to yourself? Lol
I can't wait for it to be in service, I also recall, The R211 is on Subway Simulator 3D,
Which was surprising.
whaat?
If you have subway Simulator 3D, they have the R211 train there, I just saw it on the game app. But you'll need to pay for a subscription to drive it.
Wait does this mean that they have electro magnetic drive control? That’s awesome, will make the ride more comfortable. I heard about those on GM Suvs like the GMC Denali.
I think it’s more a matter of electronics not interfering with each other. When a current is flowing it produces a magnetic field that can interfere with other electronics. Someone else feel free to correct me though.
@@josefstalin9068 true. I’m no scientist but
@@josefstalin9068 Yes when you have a current in a wire it produces a small amount of electro magnetic field, which can induce current if you have a change in flux . It's from the Lenz law.
No. All AC motored trains emit electromagnetic interference. They are just testing to make sure this EMI does not affect wayside equipment, etc.
@@FanRailer this is precisely what power modulations are for (the famous start-up sound that you love so much). They are used to limit the interference created by the train's electrical systems (motors, inverters, etc.).
So there, they test if the installed/programmed modulation makes it possible to avoid interference on the frequencies used by the signaling of MTA and others
When I first saw the R211 in action irl I was like, "where tf did the wheels go?" But then I caught in that it was electro-magnetic just like the trains in Japan
We're getting closer.
Nice angles
Imagine the R262s having the propulsion PATCO has, as the 211s sound like the SEPTA M4 propulsion
I enjoyed the video 👍👍
i love those halogen drls
The composition of a trainset seems to be T-M-M-M-T
T->trailer ,M-> Motor car
this is called "Formation III" in Paris (Trainset III)
ABBBA
"A" cars have operating cabs
"B" cars don't
All NYCT subway cars have motors...
@@Qboro66 all bogies are motorized or it's the 0.5M ?(one bogie motorized and one bogie don 't be ,per car)
Hey! The N line! Not far from my place. One of these days I hope to see the R211s in person. :)
Nice. A question for you. I have seen some of your scrapping old R42 and other train styles. Do you think with all of your information and understanding, you could create an interesting video showing how much a scrapped R42 is worth on the scrapped metal market? Like an view of a complete car then exploded views of its construction pointing out the value of metal in it. Would be interesting considering as of today - March 14th 2022 average scrap prices are: Copper $3.50 lb, Steel $250.00 ton, Stainless steel $0.75 lb, Aluminum $0.50 lb and cast iron $200.00 ton. How much weight is in an old R42? I bet you could find out. Possibly get someone to donate their animation/powerpoint skills to do it. Who knows, maybe it would lead to the MTA re-scrapping the metal in old subway cars and add to the their bottom line after we see how much value is in "recycling" old subway cars. A bit more ecologically cognizant. " The metal in that old scrapped car might be in the metal in your new one. Looks good.
Question: Is a testing regimen of such a long duration normal for the NYCTA/MTA? I certainly can't remember testing for any subway fleet going on for such a lengthy period of time.
This is honestly has been a pretty long time, but considering Covid and other problems from past train tests, I figure the MTA is just trying to make sure that these trains are perfect, unlike the lemons. Remember, this train has to replace an entire fleet of the once evolutionary r46 rolling stock.
@@ranabhaipersaud8886 You may have something there. And yes, they even have to replace the rapidly deteriorating R44s still in use on Staten Island.
Remember the R179 with problems
@@michaelgorman4229 This; think the MTA learned its lessons from the R179s and want to run the R211s with a fine-tooth comb before deploying them for revenue service.
Gotta make sure no stone is left unturned when it comes to testing the R211s. Wouldn't want to risk the debacle with R179s all over again (thankfully the 179s have been holding up since then).
I still can't get the thought out of my head the R211s are basically the R40 of NTTs--not so much because R40 storm doors but from how their design basically subverts the design template of its predecessors just like the R40 did by being the first design to not adhere to the R16 template. The day the 211s are ready for regular service is going to be glorious!
please speak English in the second paragraph
in other words,
*explain it better*
I can't understand what your point is
@@jaydottt_transitfanner The R211 is a big change from the previous NTT's, just like the R40's were for the SMEE's (in the 60s). I think they are referring to the design of the units.
@@MysticTransit ok thanks
11:55 r160c meeting r211
Godly 211s
Not godly at all kindve annoying actually
Yes
Other than being very clean, they look as if they could have been built 50 years ago. Why can't things look modern in the U.S.?
They do look modern. What do you expect them to look like, bullet trains?
@@ElJibaro718 I think it refers to the metros of Europe or Asia, or even the Azur of Montreal (based on the aesthetics of European metros)
So long as it looks good on the inside that's what counts to me. The outside might look like that to keep it consistent with existing trains.
My life goal is to get a seat on the MTA board so I can make them order railcars whose LED signs refresh faster than the shutter speed of cameras, so the signs don't flash on and off whenever I watch a video of one. We have the technology! It hasn't made it to destination signs yet.
th-cam.com/video/RkGfT9GBQlg/w-d-xo.html here's the link the ku ru ku ru cruller likes hot dog and aqours
Arent R211 cars supposed to start service this summer?
What do y'all think about the change from yellow to silver poles? I think they should've stuck with yellow
Was any protection train in place for this test sequence and, if so, where would it have been during the proceedings? \m/
Nope. The R-211 was close by the Coney Island yard so there’s no need for a protection train.
@@MrProjectArchfiends fair enough \m/
Are the R211Ts still arriving next month
Probably
Mta please make the masks announcements 75% less frequently
How long does these testing last? I'm seeing videos of the R211 test for months already..
The R211 Will be in service 2025 or 2024 I rather Enjoy these testing Vids because the Moment these trains go in service is the moment the R46's Go out of service as the R46 Units will be retired Just like the R32 units were retired and replaced with the R179 Units
@@Lost_Kamora Actually Summer of this year.
2024? that's too much IMO
@@TheRailLeaguer Bruh Someone said we gotta wait Until 2030 I know that's a lie
@@Lost_Kamora Perhaps that person who said we have to wait until 2030 is lying after all. Or maybe he might be talking about a different subway car order.
where did you record it
I’m confused werent the connecting part of these trains supposed to be the ones like on the buses?
The ones in the video are the r211a which wont have the open gangways but the r211t (which they haven’t tested yet for some reason) will have the open gangways
There are no Stars and Stripes on the cars. Won't they get it anymore?
Does it matter?
@@ElJibaro718 It was just a notice. I was surprised, because all the other cars in service have it...
How long until they go into service?
Summer 2022 on the A & C.
@@MrProjectArchfiends what about the Staten Island railway
It's like the R68 and the R160 had a baby
What station I gotta go to?
this was taken weeks ago
@@michaelrailfan oh
Sometimes they’re in the rockaways. I caught one at broad channel about a week ago on Saturday about 4pm, but I think that was the last testing that day so maybe try a lil earlier than that?
@@Toxic-fb8fw ye I always catch them in the Rockaways. But I’m tryna catch one on Sea Beach
@@TJ_Railfan same lol
1:45 hello everyone __________________?
What does emi mean?
Electro-Magnetic Interference
This train ain’t going to Broadway Line if u want to know.
It will have to, the Broadway line runs mostly R46s
Your incorrect R211 is going N Q And W After R46 and R68's and R68A's retired than R211 will be on Broadway line.
For a sort term tho i think when the r68/A and til the Open gate ways come out i heard the they are going on the ABCD lines first and the N AND W will probably get the R68/As from the B and D lines til the Opengateways come out
@Dagamez DM if the R46's and R68 retire. It needs to get R211's on the B and D lines and The N Q and W lines. There's R46's on those lines. If the west end and brighten beach lines gets CBTC for the B and Q then maybe the R211's can make these lines permanently.
@Dagamez DM The broadway Lines will Recieve R211s just at a later date as mentioned all R46s and R-68s will eventually be retired when the time comes I imagine that The broadway Line will be getting some nice train updates
I'm on my way to get my dog from yhe grooming place and I saw a r211
Here is my Question will they both use both r179 and the r211 for the n, q, and w lines?
no only r211 to replace r46
Wait, so the cars are not Inter connected?
What are the cameras for on the center track bed?
11:36 and a R160
Ironic, a cuomo R160 at that
@@Vxllain I did recall that I saw a not in service R160 going express on the West End line a few weeks ago. It wasn't a cuomo set though, just a regular R160.
Do you think R211s are having a gangway... between the subway cars?
Not these specific cars but the 20 R211T cars coming soon, and eventually, the option order cars (640 cars for the first option order and 437 cars for a huge service expansion). With all options exercised, this 1612 car order could be the largest order of MTA subway cars built by a single manufacturer.
@@TheRailLeaguer Ohh I see-
@JeremiahC99 r211t is coming this spring
@@TheRailLeaguer are the 211T's the IRT version? I've heard that the IRT will get a version of these with open gangways.
@@ElJibaro718 No. Those are the IND/BMT R211 cars with open gangway trains.
The IRT versions are part of a different subway car order called the R262.
Bruh people say it will have gangway
3:51 what happen to that middle express track on the left side of that R211?
They only use one for maintenance n stuff because the express tracks weren't worth keepin
@@flickarod8973 ok
They still have the R46? Wow they must be doing horrible
Yup. The R46s are on their last leg. The R46s are pretty filthy and used way too much. Especially on the Broadway line.
@@MrProjectArchfiends My Transit System (TTC) AKA Toronto Transit Commission We are getting rid of Our Orion VII’s and they’re getting replaced by Novas that can fill up 4 Cities. All Our ALRVs and CLRVs are gone. Our Subways Are Doing Fine.
Imagine how cool it would be if MTA had a big idea, like putting this in passenger service, instead of rolling them back and forth endlessly. Blah blah testing blah.
They do have to test, I mean they probably already did but they're just making sure ig
Better these Trains be tested this long than to Just throw It in service Like The R179's Remember Doors were opening while the train was moving and There was even a point where The R179 Decoupled in the middle of the tunnel So to me I think they're Just not Risking it
They gotta teddy them Einstein.
R160 Siemens on steroids.
First
Nobody cares
@@TCORV came here to say that too
Yo do you want a cookie?
@@TCORV If you don't care, why did you spend time to comment?
@@lamargoat2.054 sure
Hideous train 😕
Hi Gary Hills: My sentiments exactly. 😝
@@haroldalexis4200 wym?
And why do you both think it's hideous?
@@ElJibaro718 that’s my opinion wym why?
And where in the world is this ? Australia? USA? Canada? Must be somewhere barbaric (the Colonies ?), as these new units are still using pre 1960 3rd rail metal skates not carbon brushes. So 3rd rails get worn out quicker (money wasting), and its more reliable to use carbon brush shoes (better conductivity, and less interference !), and are also quicker, cheaper and easier to replace than the 3rd rails !!!!!!
It's Uranus
New York City
Well your opinion really doesn't mean much, so there's that.
I mean nobody actually cared about what you had to say so 🤷
How much longer until they are in service?
Has the date been set yet
@@Hudsonrailfanner This summer, you will begin to see R211s on the A & C. The B, D, & SIR dates are still being worked on. The N, Q, and W will only use R68/As due to CBTC equipment being installed on the 6th Avenue line.
@@jadenmuniz8817 okay thank you for this
@@jadenmuniz8817 makes why the B and D cuz the F and M have CBTC * I think right? So it would make sense so has the A cuz of the E with CBTC
@@2dtech541 6th ave and CPW are cbtc