@@sofer2230 Yeah, for sure. I wanted to make sure to mention that detail, I was tempted to put it earlier in the video because I know a lot of people don't make it to the end of video. It's hard to predict what bit of info will be the least known by players.
I tend to go for NeCROpotence as opposed to NecroPOTence since I link it with Omnipotence in my mind. I'll have to keep in mind that I can peek hidden zones while OppAgenting, don't think I'd taken the opportunity to look at their hand before.
It's a handy way to get a snapshot of what's coming your way. Just a little bonus perk to the main reason you run Agent. Oh, and I sort of bounce back and forth between pronouncing it either way.
I'm pretty sure that WotC made Panglacial Wurm and also that GW Selvala just to be used for really complicated situations in Magic. I've mostly avoided the Wurm because it doesn't really see any play in Commander and I mostly try to keep the series about things that you are likely to see. Maybe one day I'll get to a video dedicated to the Wurm. But short answer is yes, you can put it onto the stack if they have the mana available as the text of the Wurm basically grant it the ability to be cast during a point in the game when players don't normally have Priority. But you wouldn't be able to do anything else beyond that as all other normal game actions would require you to have Priority.
Alright, but can you make your opponent remove their pants with Opposition Agent, or do you need the controlled player to have priority for you to make them take that action ?
@@ThisIsACommanderChannel Wasn't there a ruling made during an un-set tournament regarding Hurloon Wrangler ? IIRC it was something about removing clothes being faster than activating mana abilities.
@@bouboulroz Yeah, someone tried to attack with the Wrangler and would have been unblockable, so before blockers the opponent tried to remove his jean pants. WotC had to send out an updated rules to judges that for Un-games, the rules and laws of the location that the game isntaking place trump the rules of Magic. So, of you're at a location that let's you take your pants off (like someone's personal house), then that's a legal game action, but if at a public location that requires pants (like a school, library, or LGS) then no pants is a no-go.
This comes up alllll the time at my store this is a useful video to keep on hand. Thanks! Could you do one on Sphinx of the second sun? Lots of people get that card wrong( me being one of them)
Ha! Yeah, that card does confuse a lot of folks, not so much on the what it does, but it seems to the the when that it does it. I have been thinking of a new series that is a sort of "Yes, that's actually what that card does" series, like how people can use Reconnaissance to pull creatures out of Combat and untap them after damage has been dealt. If I ever do that, SotSS will be an easy contender.
Love the video, didn't know that I could look at the hidden zones while searching the library. Could I make a suggestion for a future video? I made a deck to force a draw with Jon irenicus and many people get confused with the rules when I give a card they have to sacrifice like dandân and I force a draw. Maybe is too niche of a case for a video. Anyway, love your content and I hope you have a great day
Ah, yeah, Dandan has a special kind of Triggered Ability that is called a State Trigger and they are prone to creating neverending loops. Probably one of the most common I teractions with State Triggers is when people try to counter the ability of Dark Depths with something like Stifle. Technically yeah, it gets countered, but then the state is still true so the game just does it again. Could easily put together an episode on State Triggers.
Hi there!, just one doubt. When i play Opo Agent and i am controlling my oponent, can i exile as many cards as i want, or must i follow the indications of the tutor. Lets say teh tutor allows my oponent to search "a creature" then i understand that means "one" creature. Same as if it says "2 basic lands", or "up until 3 cards" etc.. I mean i must follow the restrictions of the tutor card... I ask this, cause otherwise i feel it would be too much...
@@jaceg810 Ah. Okay. Yes, that Wurm has a crazy ability that WotC made just to complicate the game and make things tougher for judges. I answered in more detail for another post so check there for a more detailed answer, but basically yes you can force them to cast their Wurm as long as they have the potential Mana to cast it.
They do have to go to the Zone they would normally go to like GY or in Exile, and then as an SBA you get to decide to leave them in that respective zone or send it to the Command Zone.
@@andytheindividual3862 Thanks, I appreciate the kind comment. It really does mean a lot. I'm glad players out there are enjoying the videos and that they're helping them to improve their games of Magic.
I appreciate you making this video and covering this topic, but I really hope that Wizards do not make more cards that let you control players. It's not a fun mechanic and I've never not seen a player get controlled from a Mindslaver and not feel a little salty afterwards.
Nope, CR 718.6 prevents a controlling player from forcing a controlled player from conceding the game. Also, a controlled player may still concede a game while being controlled.
If they have a Panglacial Wurm and a Ashnod's Alter, you can sac all their creatures
Who hurt you? Why would you want to be so evil? This is a war crime.
Sudden Panglacial Wurm joins the rules question
Ha! Yeah, I responded to Andrew's question about it. That Wurm is a classic rules gremlin.
Thanks so much for covering this for me. So many people don't know.
I figured this was gonna cover the "look at hidden zones" part but I admit I had no idea you can't "fail to find" if the search effect was generic.
For sure. It's just one of those cases in which you can't fit that much text onto the card to explain everything (like with Protection from...).
@@ThisIsACommanderChannel Protection isn't terrible with reminder text. "CARDNAME can't be targeted, damaged, blocked, or attached by anything BLANK"
@@sofer2230 Yeah, for sure. I wanted to make sure to mention that detail, I was tempted to put it earlier in the video because I know a lot of people don't make it to the end of video. It's hard to predict what bit of info will be the least known by players.
Great explanation, great background tunes
Oh, the music that plays at the beginning?
@@ThisIsACommanderChannel yes, you have played sunset Arthur a few times at the beginning and it was a nice discovery for me
@@musicalcacti I love that track. Fell in love with it when I played Boneworks. It feels... Floaty.
I tend to go for NeCROpotence as opposed to NecroPOTence since I link it with Omnipotence in my mind. I'll have to keep in mind that I can peek hidden zones while OppAgenting, don't think I'd taken the opportunity to look at their hand before.
It's a handy way to get a snapshot of what's coming your way. Just a little bonus perk to the main reason you run Agent. Oh, and I sort of bounce back and forth between pronouncing it either way.
A good topic. Does it change a bunch of things if they have a panglacial wurm in their deck?
I'm pretty sure that WotC made Panglacial Wurm and also that GW Selvala just to be used for really complicated situations in Magic. I've mostly avoided the Wurm because it doesn't really see any play in Commander and I mostly try to keep the series about things that you are likely to see. Maybe one day I'll get to a video dedicated to the Wurm.
But short answer is yes, you can put it onto the stack if they have the mana available as the text of the Wurm basically grant it the ability to be cast during a point in the game when players don't normally have Priority. But you wouldn't be able to do anything else beyond that as all other normal game actions would require you to have Priority.
Alright, but can you make your opponent remove their pants with Opposition Agent, or do you need the controlled player to have priority for you to make them take that action ?
Sadly, you cannot. Not quite an action governed by the rules of magic. But hey, that's what rule zero is for I guess.
@@ThisIsACommanderChannel Wasn't there a ruling made during an un-set tournament regarding Hurloon Wrangler ? IIRC it was something about removing clothes being faster than activating mana abilities.
@@bouboulroz Yeah, someone tried to attack with the Wrangler and would have been unblockable, so before blockers the opponent tried to remove his jean pants. WotC had to send out an updated rules to judges that for Un-games, the rules and laws of the location that the game isntaking place trump the rules of Magic. So, of you're at a location that let's you take your pants off (like someone's personal house), then that's a legal game action, but if at a public location that requires pants (like a school, library, or LGS) then no pants is a no-go.
This comes up alllll the time at my store this is a useful video to keep on hand. Thanks! Could you do one on Sphinx of the second sun? Lots of people get that card wrong( me being one of them)
Ha! Yeah, that card does confuse a lot of folks, not so much on the what it does, but it seems to the the when that it does it. I have been thinking of a new series that is a sort of "Yes, that's actually what that card does" series, like how people can use Reconnaissance to pull creatures out of Combat and untap them after damage has been dealt. If I ever do that, SotSS will be an easy contender.
Love the video, didn't know that I could look at the hidden zones while searching the library.
Could I make a suggestion for a future video? I made a deck to force a draw with Jon irenicus and many people get confused with the rules when I give a card they have to sacrifice like dandân and I force a draw. Maybe is too niche of a case for a video.
Anyway, love your content and I hope you have a great day
Ah, yeah, Dandan has a special kind of Triggered Ability that is called a State Trigger and they are prone to creating neverending loops. Probably one of the most common I teractions with State Triggers is when people try to counter the ability of Dark Depths with something like Stifle. Technically yeah, it gets countered, but then the state is still true so the game just does it again.
Could easily put together an episode on State Triggers.
i love the interaction between assault suit and sac based state triggers
@@MooseMoosesMeese That's dangerous. Loops can be a bummer.
Hi there!, just one doubt. When i play Opo Agent and i am controlling my oponent, can i exile as many cards as i want, or must i follow the indications of the tutor. Lets say teh tutor allows my oponent to search "a creature" then i understand that means "one" creature. Same as if it says "2 basic lands", or "up until 3 cards" etc.. I mean i must follow the restrictions of the tutor card... I ask this, cause otherwise i feel it would be too much...
You'll have to fallow the laws of the search to the T and only exile exactly what they tutor was able to search for.
Would oppo agent affect demonic consultation?? Could you name a card they don’t have and deck them
Does the opponent pick the card that is being tutored?
The player controlling the Agent does.
@@ThisIsACommanderChannel Thank you!
@@dyegsitsw954 Sure thing.
Necropotence, Hydrocity, Pomato, Totato
It's all words.
Heh, indeed, and all words are just made up.
Okay, but what about the wack worm you an cast while searching your (opponents) library?
What in the world is a 'wack worm'? Are you talking about Panglacial Wurm?
@@ThisIsACommanderChannel Yes, in my opinion the arbility is whack and I forgot the name, thanks for your response.
@@jaceg810 Ah. Okay. Yes, that Wurm has a crazy ability that WotC made just to complicate the game and make things tougher for judges. I answered in more detail for another post so check there for a more detailed answer, but basically yes you can force them to cast their Wurm as long as they have the potential Mana to cast it.
Wait, commanders have to go to the command zone when they die right ? Or exiled ? 😮
They do have to go to the Zone they would normally go to like GY or in Exile, and then as an SBA you get to decide to leave them in that respective zone or send it to the Command Zone.
@@ThisIsACommanderChannel thank you, I love your channel!
@@andytheindividual3862 Thanks, I appreciate the kind comment. It really does mean a lot. I'm glad players out there are enjoying the videos and that they're helping them to improve their games of Magic.
I appreciate you making this video and covering this topic, but I really hope that Wizards do not make more cards that let you control players. It's not a fun mechanic and I've never not seen a player get controlled from a Mindslaver and not feel a little salty afterwards.
If you control a player, can you just make them concede?
Nope, CR 718.6 prevents a controlling player from forcing a controlled player from conceding the game. Also, a controlled player may still concede a game while being controlled.