@SamCarLeigon What was the temp and DA for these runs? My stock Q50 Redsport AWD did the 1/4mi in 12.8sec. The 13.3 in your test seems a little slow? Must have been really hot/humid and at a high altitude, or the car maybe has some miles on it and needs a little tune up. Might be nice to add that info to the stats of future videos since it does have an effect on the performance numbers. Still great content as always.
It’s alright. Stock to stock power to weight ratio allows it to win. The vr30 is much better then the 3.3 t. It can get 741whp on e43 on stock internals. The best route to mod the car is getting the lightest variant q50 and moding it. There’s literally 0 point of getting the redsport as it’s the same engine with a different tune.
@@2seep “It’s alright” when it walked the VR30 with 200 more pounds 💀 Stock for stock the 3.3tt is better, obviously Kia is understating its power. Also there are Stingers getting >700whp
@@mrscottmescudi10 well the fastest stinger right now is just 750 hp I’m pretty sure. Mod wise there is a lot more options for infinity to build more power. Ffs they just came out with new turbos for the stinger
@@2seep Excuse me but the internals on this particular Kia engine are more robust than those in the VR30. Yes, the VR30 is a more 'advanced' engine but it isn't necessarily a better engine. The VR30 makes more hp but the Lambda makes more torque, inherently also because of its larger displacement.
The Stinger may go down as one of those "you remember how awesome that car was" conversation starters. Gobs of power, great tech, ease of use, above avg reliability, beautifully styled, and juuustt the right size(with high functionality to boot), what more could you ask for? Sure, the M340i is still the speed king, but blends with all of the lease special 3-Series. The Audi S5 may have higher build quality, but costs far more than GT2/Tribute and is smaller. C43?? Dont even think about it. And Infiniti and Lexus(sans IS500) aren't really in the conversation, along with the TLX. Shame that Kia couldn't figure out how to keep the Stinger alive...yet.
I actually sold my G37S and change my mind getting Q50 Red sport got KIA Stinger instead! Former BMW M Vice President of Engineering Albert Biermann did great job on Stinger!
As expected. Absolutely love my stinger offers everything you basically could want. Came from a 2015 q50 3.7 and have driven red sports and the transmissions are just terrible. Stinger always impresses! Sucks infinti hasn’t changed the Q50 since it came out in 2014
You don’t know what the q50 3.0t are capable of you know nothing about cars. People who drive 3.0t 50 are clueless doesn’t know how turbo boost build and send it, you don’t use pedal shifting it’s trash. Drive it as auto and let the car do its thing. I would shit on that stinger, it’s the driver who can’t drive for shit. Simple tune on those q50 3.0t can get up to 500-600 stock internal. That Kia ain’t going push no where 💀
@@user-yk5eg8qf5kand that doesn't make any sense I have a 2019 Q70 and the interior is the same as a 2010 M35. I also have a 2018 Kia Stinger GT2 and the interior is 10 times more modern
@@avis1978the q50’s drive terrain is so ass I used to have one made about 530 WHP and I was getting dragged by N/A 5.0’s and SS’s finally got rid of it because it couldn’t put the power down ended up getting a 2023 M340I it’s on a whole different level
@@avis1978incorrect, it’s 352 wheel horspower vs 374wheel horspower. 500 pound difference gives the stinger the win. That’s why it’s a lot better to get the base q50 and mod it as it’s the exact same engine with a different tune.
@@lawabiding2576 honestly just needs to update the transmission and add a limited slim and better heat exchangers for the cooling system and I’d be happy
@@user-yk5eg8qf5k I can see that you struggle with reading comprehension. The original argument is that a Q50 is a glorified altima. Q50 AND altima do not share the same transmission, engine, any anything else in common. With your little IQ logic, I guess a Porsche Panamera is a glorified VW Jettta since VW owns Porsche. Now go on and learn to comprehend context before attempting to make a rebuttal.
I have owned both the INFINITI Q50 and the Kia Stinger. I can say without a doubt the Stinger is the better car. The transmission in the Q50 is just monumentally slow. It isn’t efficient and stock it just doesn’t have the power until you rev it out. That 2023 Q50 is almost identical to the 2016 Q50 I had. They just never changed it. Fun Fact: INFINITI is currently the only major manufacturer that doesn’t have a single EV or Hybrid model at all in their lineup. At one point they claimed that every single car in their lineup would be at least a Hybrid by 2020. Now they still don’t have a single Hybrid vehicle. INFINITI sales have declined dramatically in the last few years. They need to innovate to stay relevant.
It really does suck knowing that the Stinger is going away. It's such a slick, well designed and engineered car. Hopefully one I'll get to see in my garage one day.
@@Unxpekted Not exactly "cheap" for me, brother. I have other financial responsibilities than buying a 35-40k dollar car right now, hence the 'one day'
@@Unxpektedcheap? I bought my 2020 AWD gt brand new during COVID for 36k, which is a great deal, now that car is costing 50-60k, which is insane imo. That's almost base C8 1lt money. Nothing is cheap anymore.
I cross shopped these two cars in 2019. The Stinger wins in every comparison. Exterior/interior design and practicality. Q50 - no HUD, no cooled seats, dated infotainment system, minimal driver assistance, and many more things make it less of a daily driver. The only thing the Q50 has going for it is its badge. If you want a premium badged car, buy a Genesis G70. And btw, the Stinger/G70 comes with a 10yr 100k powertrain warranty.
You are right that the Stigner/G70 are superior cars than the Q50 in almost every way possible but the Q50 is RWD based. I have a loaded G70 and people still confuse it with Bentley lol
So happy I picked up the 2023 GT2 AWD stinger in snow white with red interior. This car always puts a smile on my face every time I see it and drive it. No car I've owned does everything so well yet it's really sad to see it go. Too many are buying boring SUV's sadly and car manufacturers have to go with what the demand is to stay in business.
It needs to because their fans are toxic and think they have the best cars on the planet when they get beat by a kia, fake AMG, Mid trim M car, and Over priced VW with 5 cylinders and a turbo basically all of its competition
@@JP-dj5zdI didn't buy either, but I'd buy the Nissan product for sure before Kia. Just go to a Kia dealership and tell me their salespeople are not from the carnival.
The q50s red sport opel edition is truly amazing looking in person. It has Green Blue and Purple color shifting speckles in it. In video the car appears black but in person you wouldn’t believe it wasn’t a colour shifting wrap. It stands out so much and changes colour easily in any light
This one's puzzling. The G70 and the Q50 RS (from 2016/17 I believe) were either neck and neck or the Q50 pulling slightly ahead. And the G70 weighs less than the Stinger.
@@user-yk5eg8qf5kit has in 2018. It’s the SAME.. TRASH! Idk about the engine but I heard that tranny had a couple tweaks. Infiniti’s Q’s are a joke! I was going to buy a Redsport 400 couple months ago. But after watching doug demuro’s review on that & the stinger. The stinger wins EVERY time. Looks? Stinger, Engine? Stinger? Reliability? Pricing? Quickness? Top speed? Reliability ffs, the turbos! The goddam turbos in that q50 rs are freeeaking terrible..!!! The INTERIOR ooohhh my goodness another 2014 q50 different YEAR 😂 Brotha the q50 is an absolutely joke with that infotainment + that ancient weird double screen that takes ages to react to the touch of hand. Wtf is this 2010!?!? Kia wins hands down, but ofcourse nobody wants them.. it’s a KIA 😂 whatever, mire for me 🤙🏽
I told you Sam -as I told other car channels - Nissan engines lack torque compared to its competitors and this race proves it. Go to 70's 80's 90's up to now and you will notice other competitor's engines with the same displacement produce more torque than Nissan.
@@aireskylinetm8480 you are thinking of the blackwing, regular v is surprisingly, pretty close even though it should be more faster than it is since it's got more torque, and a 10 speed... you'd need the v-blackwing to wipe the floor of the stinger... th-cam.com/video/sl85WGnVnCI/w-d-xo.html
Somethings up with these cars . I've got a RS 400 and my friend has a 2022 Stinger and we're literally neck and neck the whole way no matter if it's a dig or a roll at 35. Either that Stinger is not stock or it's driver mod. Also, dude giggling was hilarious.
God told me that the Kia Stinger GT is the faster car than the Q50 RS (AWD vs AWD and RWD vs RWD), both from dig and roll. He said that both you guys raced with AWD version. He says you know your car and pushed it to the max but your friend didn't know his car and his car was not pushed to the max. You beat the driver, which is why you were neck and neck with him.
Not even, the Q50 would’ve won but the guy driving doesn’t know what manual mode is nor does he know how to shift, also there’s 1000hp VR30s for a reason the Infinitis engine and car itself has way more potential than a shitty Kia
It's interesting to see the Stinger walk the Q50 in this video, when the Q50 vs the Genesis G70 from two years ago was way closer. Same engine in the g70 & stinger after all.
No idea how the Q50 could have lost this. Every other test times I have seen has a Q50 edging it out in the 60 and 1/4. Maybe it's due you were shifting right at the punch, and quick shifts throughout. Driver mod and I bet we'd see different results.
Dude sucks at driving. Bro did a roll race in 3rd gear in an infiniti. Anybody who's ever driven an infiniti knows that 2nd gear pulls are the sweet spot.
Love my 2018 Stinger. 60 foot 1.78 seconds and 1/4 mile at 12.80 & 109mph with just drop in K&N filters. Doing ECU/TCU tunes along with intercooler and secondary downpipes. Will definitely wake this thing up a little more.
As a q50rs owner I'm curious what octane fuel the car in the video is running on. The performance of these cars is highly dependant on the quality of gas, more so than any other vehicle I've owned in the past. I'm almost certain your q50 is not running on 94 octane which is recommended for best performance.
the lighter version of the stinger (g70) barely beat the q50rs in previous races. so i don't understand how the stinger is walking the q50 in every race. i'd still choose the stinger cuz it offers a lot more for the money.
Sam! Just seeing that you posted this. Always love your Stinger vids but this one is special! I saw the Tribute Edition in person at the New York Auto show a few months back and its Gorgeousss. People were swarming this car! The paint job is so sprcial and it had the tan leather interior, plus the brakes and trim -- man, truly a car that the designers at Kia really cared about. Such an art piece. I almost cried bc I've always wanted to own one and now they're killing it off before I can get the opportunity lol. Hopefully they make a successor one day :-)
I’m actually pretty suprised by this one. That Nissan transmission must be pretty terrible. It’s pretty accepted that the stinger is slightly underrated, but even if it really made 400 crank, it still should have lost. Stingers a big girl.
As a former Stinger GT owner, I have Dragy timed both the Infiniti Q50RS and Kia Stinger GT, and no way the Q50RS is slower, especially off rolls. That guy must have some kind of jb4 on map 2-3 he is running, or if it's a press car it is tweaked. The Q50S in your videos beat the G70's, so I would expect the same outcome.
@@mtDNA_Refresh I owned a Stinger LOL, and we had a Q50RS, I'm sure I know what's up? The map2 gives a few psi of boost over stock, which can give it that little "edge". It won't be anything drastic. You would need a custom map on ethanol and other supporting mods to show more difference.
The Q50 didn't beat the G70, they were neck and neck. And as far as I'm aware, the tuning on the Stinger is a tad more aggressive than that in the G70.
Gearing & transmission. That fucking car needs erased from the industry. Wtf is going on with Infiniti? Whole q50 trims are a joke. They offer less & have the steel balls to ask for more $$$. THE CAR DOESNT EVEN HAVE GODDAMN COOLED SEATS… WTF 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Ya broski. A 3.7 q50s is the same price as a Kia stinger GT2… do what u want with that info ;) I’m getting myself a STANGA 🙌🏽
who cares so close and who races on the road why do you car guys do rthis meaning less just ego for you guys you dont buy theses car to race so why the whole yourtube full of this , not why people buy cars well hope not
Sam is literally the worst TH-cam driver ever. He can be in a Bugatti and race a Jetta and lose. All he does is stomp on the accelerator with all his strength. Horrible
At this price point the M340i is the obvious choice. Infiniti should be ashamed for dragging this same design inside and out year after year. I’d love to see the Stinger get one more refresh…shame.
@@robsnow2099 fully loaded m340 goes over 70k OTD. They don't seem to discount at al, while Kia can be had under 50k with negotiation. but yea at that price point i would spend little more to get m3. But m340 is a fantastic car nonetheless
@@kenyaswallow5782 everyone doesn't want a fully loaded. And mid spec 340i is still above a fully loaded Q50 (which would make the 50 cost more...which is my entire point). As we know the Q50 hasn't changed almost at all in a decade! So "fully loaded" doesn't mean much but it def will cost you.
I would like to say you do have the CW wrong. The newer 2022+ stingers actually got lighter over the 2018-2021 model. They are only around 4023 CW. They lost like 150lbs.
Yea the Stinger launch control from factory is weak. It doesnt allow you to build boost while stationary so its pointless. However theres a super cheap and simple mod called the brake snip that will let you launch with boost, it can shave up to half second 0-60 times.
Hey guys, I agree with some others on the channel. Saying that infiniti should just put the pasture, they have good quality and are solid cars! They are dead to the other brands they models like q50 and qx80 both have basically the same dash layout and body since launch minus the tiny micro changes. So when I was looking at 2022 q50s I just couldn't do it, looking at 2020 a4, 330i and even tlx just way newer and modern. So took to long to stay relevant!!!
Welp the Q50 latest several model years longer than the Stinger so at the end of day it really did win 😂 The aggressive tuning and superior transmission guarantees the Kia wins. Always a good time seeing these two run it down the track.
The 3.3 is not a new engine. It's been Kia's defacto V6 for almost two decades now. Proven engine to say the least and easily the best one in their portfolio, even better than the Tau 5.0 if you ask me. The only German input it received was tuning from Biermann for this particular application. The 3.5 iteration in the newer Genesis models does have a few traits of German engineering in them, but they're still 80% based on the 3.3.
@@user-ix3fd5vx5t yeah just octane learned my EN from normal 93 gas, surprisingly hits 20psi whereas when I use to get 91 from a different state I only got 16-17 rarely topped 18.
Missing the m340 there which is faster then both of them , Q50 is a nice car but the weak spot always has been their transmission.anyone who knows cars knows it’s not about hp but about transmission and torque, that’s what wins races. And that’s why bmw Porsche and Audi are kings because they have the best transmissions in the business
first roll race , you put it in drive, and then right when you started the race, instantly upshifted ( @5:16 ) in auto , it will upshift and put it into a temporary manual mode until it reaches redline where it upshifts on its own but goes back to auto . you can hear the upshift and sluggish acceleration . . and then you say " the transmission in this car " as if it was the cars fault. if this was legit, the car would have downshifted to 2nd or 3rd gear , which don't accelerate like yours did, furthering the point.
Duh! They did a video of the IS500 vs Stinger. Stinger took it everytime at launch. Drag and roll the IS500 was able to outrun it by about a car length but with difficulty. Am sure the Stinger was also heat soaking after repeated races. It was very close. 3.3t is definitely underrated (prob closer to 400hp crank) and the Lexus 5.0 is overrated if you ask me (dynos have it at 445-450hp crank).
I love my Stinger, prettiest car on the road and grunt to spare. I despair that Kia are taking this car off the road as a token to green and woke brigade.
I filmed so many drag races, I didn't know I had not raced these two.
No problem Sam !! 😉😉❤❤
If u drive the stinger stinger will lose
What altitud are you at sam?
@SamCarLeigon What was the temp and DA for these runs? My stock Q50 Redsport AWD did the 1/4mi in 12.8sec. The 13.3 in your test seems a little slow? Must have been really hot/humid and at a high altitude, or the car maybe has some miles on it and needs a little tune up. Might be nice to add that info to the stats of future videos since it does have an effect on the performance numbers. Still great content as always.
@@dankolicious10 thats why asked sam his altitud cause car seems slow you are correct they are mid 12sec in the 1/4mile
The 3.3 T used in the Stinger and Genesis brands is brilliant.
It’s alright. Stock to stock power to weight ratio allows it to win. The vr30 is much better then the 3.3 t. It can get 741whp on e43 on stock internals. The best route to mod the car is getting the lightest variant q50 and moding it. There’s literally 0 point of getting the redsport as it’s the same engine with a different tune.
@@2seep “It’s alright” when it walked the VR30 with 200 more pounds 💀 Stock for stock the 3.3tt is better, obviously Kia is understating its power. Also there are Stingers getting >700whp
@@mrscottmescudi10 well the fastest stinger right now is just 750 hp I’m pretty sure. Mod wise there is a lot more options for infinity to build more power. Ffs they just came out with new turbos for the stinger
@@2seep Excuse me but the internals on this particular Kia engine are more robust than those in the VR30. Yes, the VR30 is a more 'advanced' engine but it isn't necessarily a better engine. The VR30 makes more hp but the Lambda makes more torque, inherently also because of its larger displacement.
@@2seep facts i got a premium q
Glad you finally did this matchup! Love my stinger!!!
Hope you enjoyed it!
I have #568 Steel Matte Gray Tribute 🫶🏼
The Stinger may go down as one of those "you remember how awesome that car was" conversation starters. Gobs of power, great tech, ease of use, above avg reliability, beautifully styled, and juuustt the right size(with high functionality to boot), what more could you ask for? Sure, the M340i is still the speed king, but blends with all of the lease special 3-Series. The Audi S5 may have higher build quality, but costs far more than GT2/Tribute and is smaller. C43?? Dont even think about it. And Infiniti and Lexus(sans IS500) aren't really in the conversation, along with the TLX.
Shame that Kia couldn't figure out how to keep the Stinger alive...yet.
The TLX won’t degrade into a complete sh-tbox in five years. 🤷🏻♂️
@@MidnightAspec hmmm...doesn't stop it for being an overweight slob(with a tight interior) in the meantime tho.😏
@@MidnightAspec10 year warranty on the kia
@@therealslapchop1919 it needs it.
@@MidnightAspec someone’s mad they bought a slow ass Honda 😂
I love your passion for the race, Sam!
Always a treat to see your videos pop up! LET'S ROLL! 👍
Thank you
That 3.3 is no joke. Kia did an amazing job
I think Kia understated it’s horsepower. Based on power to weight ratio, infinity had the edge.
Gearing matters just as much as power and weight
Gearing, traction, and transmissions are a big part of it. Bierman just took his formula from BMW and gave it to the Koreans.
That gives extra support to my statement, BMW always understate their horsepower which is the case here.
@@hellkitty1014how so? Bmw run inline 6 motor. Also have 8speed zf and the dct. Are you suggesting that Kia and bmw are in a partnership?.
@@joshreynolds729 no a former bmw engineer has moved to kia to be an engineer for them
I love the little giggle the Stinger driver gave while ahead in roll race #1. Love your content!! :)
Why they have to kill off the stinger, such a gorgeous car 😢.. now I have to try to find a used one down the road.
it sold quite poorly
its one of the ugliest cars in the class
Because it's a Kia
But I do think the Stinger wins this matchup.
@@adriancarter6955NOOOO
@@adriancarter6955hahaha are you butthurt why so much hate ...
I actually sold my G37S and change my mind getting Q50 Red sport got KIA Stinger instead! Former BMW M Vice President of Engineering Albert Biermann did great job on Stinger!
Very similar here, I went from a G37xS to a Genesis G70 3.3 AWD Sport Prestige.
Albert Biermann didn't design the Stinger. Peter Schreyer from Audi did.
@@TallTimbersUSA Should've gotten the G70 RWD it is faster in the roll race and more fun in the corners due to better handling.
@@noobz5056 Agree! Got amazing deal with 6k off MSRP was hard to pass off before crazy car market.
@@GERONIMO326 meant engineering for the powertrain.
As expected. Absolutely love my stinger offers everything you basically could want. Came from a 2015 q50 3.7 and have driven red sports and the transmissions are just terrible. Stinger always impresses! Sucks infinti hasn’t changed the Q50 since it came out in 2014
They change altimas interior, engine and transmission more than the q🤣
You don’t know what the q50 3.0t are capable of you know nothing about cars. People who drive 3.0t 50 are clueless doesn’t know how turbo boost build and send it, you don’t use pedal shifting it’s trash. Drive it as auto and let the car do its thing. I would shit on that stinger, it’s the driver who can’t drive for shit. Simple tune on those q50 3.0t can get up to 500-600 stock internal. That Kia ain’t going push no where 💀
@@user-yk5eg8qf5kand that doesn't make any sense I have a 2019 Q70 and the interior is the same as a 2010 M35. I also have a 2018 Kia Stinger GT2 and the interior is 10 times more modern
With almost similar power figures I didn't expect such a difference in performance.
Similar? 400hp vs 368hp and 200lbs difference is not that similar. The stinger took it in a big way.
Probably math isn't your strongest subject.😂😂😂
@@hasanfadhil6404 neither is english yours, I used the word almost because of the 32 bhp difference 😂😂😂
@@avis1978the q50’s drive terrain is so ass I used to have one made about 530 WHP and I was getting dragged by N/A 5.0’s and SS’s finally got rid of it because it couldn’t put the power down ended up getting a 2023 M340I it’s on a whole different level
@@avis1978incorrect, it’s 352 wheel horspower vs 374wheel horspower. 500 pound difference gives the stinger the win. That’s why it’s a lot better to get the base q50 and mod it as it’s the exact same engine with a different tune.
The Infiniti needs to be put to pasture. It had a good run, but it's time now.
They just haven't made any improvements over the years. A little more power or some transmission work would have been nice.
@@lawabiding2576 honestly just needs to update the transmission and add a limited slim and better heat exchangers for the cooling system and I’d be happy
It would be a rocketship with the Honda 10at, and it could use a new interior and a little update outside.
Just needs an update is all
I never thought I’d prefer a Stinger/G70 over a Q50.
Why? Its a glorified altima.. a stinger and gv70 present a much more attractive package
@@SSH939that’s why you chose the q60 with the lightest variant and a few mods it literally destroys anything on the road
@SSH939 you make no sense. There is nothing altima and Q50 share in common. You must be one an unpaid hyundai Spokesman.
@l.s.e4798 so them being made by the same company isnt something they have in common? Wow look how smart this guy is
@@user-yk5eg8qf5k I can see that you struggle with reading comprehension. The original argument is that a Q50 is a glorified altima. Q50 AND altima do not share the same transmission, engine, any anything else in common. With your little IQ logic, I guess a Porsche Panamera is a glorified VW Jettta since VW owns Porsche. Now go on and learn to comprehend context before attempting to make a rebuttal.
Interesting outcome. Still surprised to see the Q was slower. A quick shifting Transmission always play a role.
This is the race we wanted. Hopefully you got some good lunches 😂
I have owned both the INFINITI Q50 and the Kia Stinger. I can say without a doubt the Stinger is the better car. The transmission in the Q50 is just monumentally slow. It isn’t efficient and stock it just doesn’t have the power until you rev it out. That 2023 Q50 is almost identical to the 2016 Q50 I had. They just never changed it.
Fun Fact: INFINITI is currently the only major manufacturer that doesn’t have a single EV or Hybrid model at all in their lineup. At one point they claimed that every single car in their lineup would be at least a Hybrid by 2020. Now they still don’t have a single Hybrid vehicle. INFINITI sales have declined dramatically in the last few years. They need to innovate to stay relevant.
yea and they use same transmission since 2005 😂
They do have a hybrid q50
@@aboogie9925 no they don’t. They discontinued it many years ago.
But u can still buy one tho lol u made it seem like they never made one lol
@@aboogie9925 you can’t buy one new and they barely made many of them at all. You would be hard pressed to find one you wanted to buy now.
Stinger is better looking, faster in a straight line, handling is more dynamic on curves and it’s cheaper.
It really does suck knowing that the Stinger is going away. It's such a slick, well designed and engineered car. Hopefully one I'll get to see in my garage one day.
One day? They’re cheap cars
@@Unxpekted Not exactly "cheap" for me, brother. I have other financial responsibilities than buying a 35-40k dollar car right now, hence the 'one day'
@@Unxpektedcheap? I bought my 2020 AWD gt brand new during COVID for 36k, which is a great deal, now that car is costing 50-60k, which is insane imo. That's almost base C8 1lt money. Nothing is cheap anymore.
I heard they will be come back as EVS
@@Unxpektedwhat’s cheap to you ?
I cross shopped these two cars in 2019. The Stinger wins in every comparison. Exterior/interior design and practicality.
Q50 - no HUD, no cooled seats, dated infotainment system, minimal driver assistance, and many more things make it less of a daily driver. The only thing the Q50 has going for it is its badge. If you want a premium badged car, buy a Genesis G70.
And btw, the Stinger/G70 comes with a 10yr 100k powertrain warranty.
You are right that the Stigner/G70 are superior cars than the Q50 in almost every way possible but the Q50 is RWD based.
I have a loaded G70 and people still confuse it with Bentley lol
@biglee13m KDM is trying to overtake JDM. The Stinger still puts a smile on my face 4yrs later. I'll edit my comment thanks.
And still mr Sam would go with the Q50 and pay 15k more. go figure 🤭🤭
@@biglee13mso is the stinger RWD bass.
@@biglee13mStinger/G70 is RWD based
i read all the reviews back when the Stinger first came out. The Stinger was 0-60 in 4.4-4.6 and the RS was always 4.5. So what gives?
I will admit Sam, you and your channel have done a great job of line ups. Keep it up.
So happy I picked up the 2023 GT2 AWD stinger in snow white with red interior. This car always puts a smile on my face every time I see it and drive it. No car I've owned does everything so well yet it's really sad to see it go. Too many are buying boring SUV's sadly and car manufacturers have to go with what the demand is to stay in business.
Infiniti has to make one of the slowest 400bhp vehicle on the planet. Good Gawd it gets walked by a car with less hp and more weight.. .
It needs to because their fans are toxic and think they have the best cars on the planet when they get beat by a kia, fake AMG, Mid trim M car, and Over priced VW with 5 cylinders and a turbo basically all of its competition
bad driver or something the infiniti faster than that
I think Nissan simply lost to Kia.
Is anyone going truly going to buy a “Kia”
😂😂😂
@@kndli67 I'd buy neither of them, but if I have to choose one it would be the Kia 😅
@@JP-dj5zdI didn't buy either, but I'd buy the Nissan product for sure before Kia.
Just go to a Kia dealership and tell me their salespeople are not from the carnival.
@@Mike-lt6sjI have… 4 times now and they were out of a luxury hotel.
The q50s red sport opel edition is truly amazing looking in person. It has Green Blue and Purple color shifting speckles in it. In video the car appears black but in person you wouldn’t believe it wasn’t a colour shifting wrap. It stands out so much and changes colour easily in any light
If the q50 had the 9 speed of the Z it would be even. Now let's see if they put it and update the 3.0L
That's exactly what's needed! Doubtful though...
@@lawabiding2576 we'll see, I doubt they will make a new one. It's so sad
Q50 is going EV. News has been out for some time now.
@@SnakeDoctor5104 sad
If my grandmother had wheels she would have been a bike.
Knew stinger would gap it , stinger does good against q60 s
Yes I can confirm that when my Stinger 2022 was stock. Now that I have bolt ons running e30 with map3, Q60 has no chance
Kia Stinger is a better looking car ..all the way around…it fits in anywhere u go…the infinity has a old look to it…be for real!
No it’s not
This one's puzzling. The G70 and the Q50 RS (from 2016/17 I believe) were either neck and neck or the Q50 pulling slightly ahead. And the G70 weighs less than the Stinger.
Stinger is slightly faster than the G70 despite same engine.
@@Blue-moon12 It is not faster than the G70
@@user-wm7rn1bj4j just the 2023 g70 has 3 more hp than the 22 and prior
Another great video, Sam! I have the Stinger and love the driving experience. Please do a test on the the Stinger's new 2.5t engine.
Not surprised! Great video!
The q50 q60 needs the 9 speed it's holding it back
No the q needs to be completely remade. The engine and transmission hasnt been updated.
@@user-yk5eg8qf5kit has in 2018. It’s the SAME.. TRASH! Idk about the engine but I heard that tranny had a couple tweaks. Infiniti’s Q’s are a joke! I was going to buy a Redsport 400 couple months ago. But after watching doug demuro’s review on that & the stinger. The stinger wins EVERY time. Looks? Stinger, Engine? Stinger? Reliability? Pricing? Quickness? Top speed? Reliability ffs, the turbos! The goddam turbos in that q50 rs are freeeaking terrible..!!! The INTERIOR ooohhh my goodness another 2014 q50 different YEAR 😂 Brotha the q50 is an absolutely joke with that infotainment + that ancient weird double screen that takes ages to react to the touch of hand. Wtf is this 2010!?!? Kia wins hands down, but ofcourse nobody wants them.. it’s a KIA 😂 whatever, mire for me 🤙🏽
Agreed 1000%, Qs on a 9 speed transmission would be winning races like a GTR 😂
I told you Sam -as I told other car channels - Nissan engines lack torque compared to its competitors and this race proves it. Go to 70's 80's 90's up to now and you will notice other competitor's engines with the same displacement produce more torque than Nissan.
G T R
On Paper the Infinity should do 13.0 and the Kia 13.1 in the 1/4 mile.
please do a tuned Audi A3 quattro against an infinity q50 or 60
My infiniti q50 luxe 300 hp goes exactly 13.3 per quarter mile . So ,what the problem with this red sport ?????
Red sport is 13.0 nothing is wrong with this RS.
@@3DSman3554 They do 12.8 no problem, even in 100 degree heat. This one is not running well..
@@DMCarReviews car and driver got 13.0 12.8 seems lucky
I would like to see the Cadillac CT5-V vs the Kia Stinger GT
Great race. Caddy would win. But it’s also cost $25k-$40k more. The stinger would definitely keep up with it.
@@aireskylinetm8480 you are thinking of the blackwing, regular v is surprisingly, pretty close even though it should be more faster than it is since it's got more torque, and a 10 speed... you'd need the v-blackwing to wipe the floor of the stinger... th-cam.com/video/sl85WGnVnCI/w-d-xo.html
The CT5-V is actually a hair slower. Now the Blackwing is a totally different story.
@@MatthewPacer that would be an interesting race! I love stingers.
@@MatthewPacerblackwing vs m340i would be a good race
Damn all of these CUV's. They're the reason all of the amazing sedans are becoming extinct.
More like EV's...
@@lawabiding2576 Well both technically. Or they're making CUV's that are EV's.
Somethings up with these cars . I've got a RS 400 and my friend has a 2022 Stinger and we're literally neck and neck the whole way no matter if it's a dig or a roll at 35. Either that Stinger is not stock or it's driver mod. Also, dude giggling was hilarious.
Same with mine. It's so close to the 1/4
These cars are press cars, brand new. If you watch the tires of the Infiniti spin, you will know those bridgestones are sh**
@@SamCarLegion Gotcha. Yeah, that’ll do it with those tires. It comes stock with heavy ass run-flats , which was the first thing I upgraded.
God told me that the Kia Stinger GT is the faster car than the Q50 RS (AWD vs AWD and RWD vs RWD), both from dig and roll. He said that both you guys raced with AWD version. He says you know your car and pushed it to the max but your friend didn't know his car and his car was not pushed to the max. You beat the driver, which is why you were neck and neck with him.
Either your friend can't drive or your friend has the GT-line 4 cylinder Stinger.
Actually, I love both cars 👍
Dang sad. Still love my Q50 either way lol
Not even, the Q50 would’ve won but the guy driving doesn’t know what manual mode is nor does he know how to shift, also there’s 1000hp VR30s for a reason the Infinitis engine and car itself has way more potential than a shitty Kia
@@Q50Eric lmfao cry harder stingers shit on Q50's
It's interesting to see the Stinger walk the Q50 in this video, when the Q50 vs the Genesis G70 from two years ago was way closer. Same engine in the g70 & stinger after all.
No idea how the Q50 could have lost this. Every other test times I have seen has a Q50 edging it out in the 60 and 1/4. Maybe it's due you were shifting right at the punch, and quick shifts throughout. Driver mod and I bet we'd see different results.
Dude sucks at driving. Bro did a roll race in 3rd gear in an infiniti. Anybody who's ever driven an infiniti knows that 2nd gear pulls are the sweet spot.
Love my 2018 Stinger. 60 foot 1.78 seconds and 1/4 mile at 12.80 & 109mph with just drop in K&N filters. Doing ECU/TCU tunes along with intercooler and secondary downpipes. Will definitely wake this thing up a little more.
Deff some good runs. Hey Sam did you have traction control off on the Q?
Kia stinger🔥
the stinger just destroyed hahahahah❤
As a q50rs owner I'm curious what octane fuel the car in the video is running on. The performance of these cars is highly dependant on the quality of gas, more so than any other vehicle I've owned in the past.
I'm almost certain your q50 is not running on 94 octane which is recommended for best performance.
the lighter version of the stinger (g70) barely beat the q50rs in previous races. so i don't understand how the stinger is walking the q50 in every race. i'd still choose the stinger cuz it offers a lot more for the money.
Sam is a bad driver 😂😕😏
factsss i'm starting to notice that too
Stinger is so underrated... heavier with less power and still faster
Sam! Just seeing that you posted this. Always love your Stinger vids but this one is special! I saw the Tribute Edition in person at the New York Auto show a few months back and its Gorgeousss. People were swarming this car! The paint job is so sprcial and it had the tan leather interior, plus the brakes and trim -- man, truly a car that the designers at Kia really cared about. Such an art piece. I almost cried bc I've always wanted to own one and now they're killing it off before I can get the opportunity lol. Hopefully they make a successor one day :-)
One of my homies doubted me when I said my stinger’s taking a q50 to gapplebee’s stock to stock. So glad I can send him this 😂
I’m actually pretty suprised by this one. That Nissan transmission must be pretty terrible. It’s pretty accepted that the stinger is slightly underrated, but even if it really made 400 crank, it still should have lost. Stingers a big girl.
It’s because the Bonehead driving the Infiniti needs driver mod
If the Q50 would have 32 HP less and nearly 200 lbs more weight as the Stinger ? Than I would understand this result.
Companies never tell the exact truth on power and transmission is a huge key to performance.
Kia's lying about the numbers
@@ContentinMesaanyone with a brain knows that Kia not stock or Sam can’t drive, rs walk stinger’s every time
It’s the transmission in the infinity that’s hurting it
@@topsecretmx5142 or maybe the Q50 has less WHP as the Stinger, or the TT engine from the Stinger boostet more HP and torque in the low rpm range ?
LMFAO all the VQ fans quiet af. They probably unsubscribed after this video of their top of the line sedan losing to a Kia🤣🤣🤣🤣
It’s VR I think he was up a gear or wrong gear, still giving credit to the Kia stinger thoe
It’s a VR don’t talk shit when you don’t know shit, there’s 1000hp Q50s and there’s not a single Kia stinger over 700hp and there’s a reason…
5:15... Why blame the transmission when you shifted up right before kicking it down?
True, but the Infiniti's transmission is also ancient AF.
@@TheBreakfastLoverstill faster either Sam can’t drive or the stinger not stock
It doesn't look like he up shifted at 5:15
That’s the gas pedal noise, fingers didn’t move. Didn’t pay much attention eh?
@@SamCarLegion5:16 to be specific. Didn't you release your fingers from the pedal?
Homie dont no how 2 drive the rs frfr
The Stinger would gap it regardless of the driver...
@@ridewithfionn lies
As a former Stinger GT owner, I have Dragy timed both the Infiniti Q50RS and Kia Stinger GT, and no way the Q50RS is slower, especially off rolls. That guy must have some kind of jb4 on map 2-3 he is running, or if it's a press car it is tweaked. The Q50S in your videos beat the G70's, so I would expect the same outcome.
That's what I was thinking too. Or maybe the Q isn't broken in yet....
Bro on map2 or map3 it would be a slaughter. Tells me you know nothing of stinger tuning.
@@mtDNA_Refresh I owned a Stinger LOL, and we had a Q50RS, I'm sure I know what's up? The map2 gives a few psi of boost over stock, which can give it that little "edge". It won't be anything drastic. You would need a custom map on ethanol and other supporting mods to show more difference.
@@DMCarReviewsyou sound very butthurt accept the fact stinger is faster
The Q50 didn't beat the G70, they were neck and neck. And as far as I'm aware, the tuning on the Stinger is a tad more aggressive than that in the G70.
Been the same Infiniti for 10 years
need a 23 k5 GT1 race
Kia/Hyundai aren't the same people as they used to be.
I love my Stinger i think the stinger is underrated in horsepower. It feels like a 430 horsepower car factory!!
How about the 2.5 stinger? Do they underrate it?
Yeah that's confusing... infinity is lighter with more hp and can't even catch up on the top end .
Gearing & transmission. That fucking car needs erased from the industry. Wtf is going on with Infiniti? Whole q50 trims are a joke. They offer less & have the steel balls to ask for more $$$. THE CAR DOESNT EVEN HAVE GODDAMN COOLED SEATS… WTF 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Ya broski. A 3.7 q50s is the same price as a Kia stinger GT2… do what u want with that info ;) I’m getting myself a STANGA 🙌🏽
@@aireskylinetm8480and my g37 will walk that gt2.. crazy world we live in do what you want w that info ;)
Q50s should win by at least 2-3 cars.....
2 3 cars? thats a bold claim
@@amd1055tify take a look at the trap speed difference.
2-3 cars but the other way. Lmfao
@@ContentinMesathat stinger not stock, it’s obvious
@@ContentinMesa it's weird, because 2 years ago on this same channel the Q50s beat the g70 and g70s are lighter than the Kia Stinger.
The stinger closer to a gtr then Infiniti would’ve been cool if they put twins on a modified 3.7 and new trans
who cares
so close and who races on the road
why do you car guys do rthis
meaning less just ego for you guys
you dont buy theses car to race so why
the whole yourtube full of this ,
not why people buy cars well hope not
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This is what I am waiting Man ... Finally Sam you respond 🎉🥰
Insane cars !! ❤❤
I just pray Sam isn’t driving the stinger. 😩
Sam is literally the worst TH-cam driver ever. He can be in a Bugatti and race a Jetta and lose. All he does is stomp on the accelerator with all his strength. Horrible
At this price point the M340i is the obvious choice. Infiniti should be ashamed for dragging this same design inside and out year after year. I’d love to see the Stinger get one more refresh…shame.
while m340 is superior, doesnt it cost additional 20k-ish?
@@kenyaswallow578257k MSRP, just googled it. Sam has the Q50 RS at 58k.
@@robsnow2099 fully loaded m340 goes over 70k OTD. They don't seem to discount at al, while Kia can be had under 50k with negotiation. but yea at that price point i would spend little more to get m3. But m340 is a fantastic car nonetheless
@@kenyaswallow5782 everyone doesn't want a fully loaded. And mid spec 340i is still above a fully loaded Q50 (which would make the 50 cost more...which is my entire point). As we know the Q50 hasn't changed almost at all in a decade! So "fully loaded" doesn't mean much but it def will cost you.
This sending false info Let it shift naturally if you don’t know how
He did, watch the whole video
@@21olmos he didn’t have a factory freak 😉
I would like to say you do have the CW wrong. The newer 2022+ stingers actually got lighter over the 2018-2021 model. They are only around 4023 CW. They lost like 150lbs.
Another great video, Sam! I have ‘ 23 stinger GT AWD. LC on AWD stingers are terrible, much quicker without.
Yea the Stinger launch control from factory is weak. It doesnt allow you to build boost while stationary so its pointless. However theres a super cheap and simple mod called the brake snip that will let you launch with boost, it can shave up to half second 0-60 times.
Can you put the RS Q50 up against the new Nissan Z?
We did the Q60 rs
Hey guys, I agree with some others on the channel. Saying that infiniti should just put the pasture, they have good quality and are solid cars! They are dead to the other brands they models like q50 and qx80 both have basically the same dash layout and body since launch minus the tiny micro changes.
So when I was looking at 2022 q50s I just couldn't do it, looking at 2020 a4, 330i and even tlx just way newer and modern. So took to long to stay relevant!!!
Put to pasture and other models , few typos.
You should race the new Prius vs GT86
My 2013 genesis 5.0 exact same results with a Infiniti red sport, was slowly getting more ahead
nah i had a 2013 genesis r spec and q50 redsport the q50 was faster
You should put a Infiniti q50 2.0t against a Honda accord 2.0t that would be so awesome!🔥
Accord would slaughter it.
@@hellkitty1014 Accord is pretty quick but that would be a fun video to watch
Welp the Q50 latest several model years longer than the Stinger so at the end of day it really did win 😂 The aggressive tuning and superior transmission guarantees the Kia wins. Always a good time seeing these two run it down the track.
Lol ok
Luckily the q50 is almost never left stock. The vr30 is amazing for tuning.
Whats crazy is the stinger oem tuning is very limited
@@3DSman3554cry ☠️☠️
@@2seepyou know what else is crazy? It’s still slow lol
I do like the infinity as well, and would get some extra tuning on it.
I think that this T and TT engine´s from Kia, Hyundai and Genesis have a little bit German engineering inside.
They literally do lol
Hp wasn’t the reason why the q50 lost it was the weight
Nope bullshit...there were 2 people in the team from former German manufacturers design team and chassis the engine and gearbox is 100% Hyundai/Kia
The 3.3 is not a new engine. It's been Kia's defacto V6 for almost two decades now. Proven engine to say the least and easily the best one in their portfolio, even better than the Tau 5.0 if you ask me. The only German input it received was tuning from Biermann for this particular application. The 3.5 iteration in the newer Genesis models does have a few traits of German engineering in them, but they're still 80% based on the 3.3.
@@2seep the Q50 lost because it´s nearly 200 lbs lighter as the Stinger ?
We gotta see the type S against type R and Elantra N Manuel
The Integra Type S already beat the Civic Type R on another TH-cam channel, and the Civic Type R already beat the Elantra N on Sam's channel
But not the dct EN with octan learning bro
@@user-ix3fd5vx5t agree
@@user-ix3fd5vx5t yeah just octane learned my EN from normal 93 gas, surprisingly hits 20psi whereas when I use to get 91 from a different state I only got 16-17 rarely topped 18.
This Stinger is wonderful in practically everything…🥂 Kia is crazy to take it out of production…🧐
I still want the q60
Stinger is Fantastic !!!!
Q50 soon to be discontinued as well
Is it possible to add old G37 to some video please?
Literally been waiting on it 🤦🏾♂️
I’ll stick with the Stinger! Clearly the faster and almost 10k cheaper, that’s a no brainer!!
i don't think Sam can drive well tbh
Would have loved to see an m240i walk both of these.... 😉🤣
Or a M340I
Missing the m340 there which is faster then both of them , Q50 is a nice car but the weak spot always has been their transmission.anyone who knows cars knows it’s not about hp but about transmission and torque, that’s what wins races. And that’s why bmw Porsche and Audi are kings because they have the best transmissions in the business
first roll race , you put it in drive, and then right when you started the race, instantly upshifted ( @5:16 ) in auto , it will upshift and put it into a temporary manual mode until it reaches redline where it upshifts on its own but goes back to auto . you can hear the upshift and sluggish acceleration . . and then you say " the transmission in this car " as if it was the cars fault. if this was legit, the car would have downshifted to 2nd or 3rd gear , which don't accelerate like yours did, furthering the point.
So a Kia stinger can beat the Lexus Lc500 😳
Duh! They did a video of the IS500 vs Stinger. Stinger took it everytime at launch. Drag and roll the IS500 was able to outrun it by about a car length but with difficulty. Am sure the Stinger was also heat soaking after repeated races. It was very close. 3.3t is definitely underrated (prob closer to 400hp crank) and the Lexus 5.0 is overrated if you ask me (dynos have it at 445-450hp crank).
Yep!
Infiniti on 87 octane or what? These cars doing 12.8-12.9s on 1/4 mile all day long......
I love my Stinger, prettiest car on the road and grunt to spare. I despair that Kia are taking this car off the road as a token to green and woke brigade.
Q50rs vs audi rs3 would be a nice race please.
No it wouldn't. Rs3 is leagues above the q50rs
I haven’t lost to a Kia Stinger yet on a roll or dig
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