Justice - Stress Deconstructed

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  • @jazzygeofferz
    @jazzygeofferz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    The different iterations through their various tours mean it's been constantly evolving as well. The latest version with the electronic hook and the Walkman bassline is ridiculously good.

    • @KarlBoltzmann
      @KarlBoltzmann  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, they do like to switch it up. One thing that's always stayed constant is their incredible bass lines.

  • @Dr_JackHammer
    @Dr_JackHammer ปีที่แล้ว +54

    2:54 The original source of these strings is Dick De Benedictis - Predators from Symphonic Adventures Production Elements Toolkit released in 1997

    • @KarlBoltzmann
      @KarlBoltzmann  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Amazing! Great find.

    • @TachyBunker
      @TachyBunker 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Later licensed by Sound Ideas, and then Apple.

  • @KowankoMusic
    @KowankoMusic ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Well done! Really appreciate your work. I still think that Justice album is completely radical and punk rock in its way. Fave track: "Newjack".

    • @KarlBoltzmann
      @KarlBoltzmann  ปีที่แล้ว +3

    • @vmodsm
      @vmodsm ปีที่แล้ว

      Newjack and one minute to midnight are probably the most slept on tracks to-date easy

  • @alberto.tovar.79
    @alberto.tovar.79 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Good video!! Justice have said in some interviews they dont use any side chain, but lots of automations. They both come from the graphic design world so the "easy" way for them is to edit that automations. Xavier is known as a wizard for twisting sounds too. For the mixing, they say they dont use hardly any fx in each track, but they stack some distortion and compressor fx in the master chain, alternating them. I guess that gets the pumping fx in their tracks, then they level each track volume so the drums are very loud in the mix. If you do that and set the distortion and compression high on the master chain you get that loud drums.
    It would be great if you could deconstruct other songs like Newjack (thats a sample chopping nightmare) and Phantom. I guess the synths from that song comes from the voice of the main sample, as if they took a microsample and could loop it and using it like an instrument.

    • @KarlBoltzmann
      @KarlBoltzmann  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Fantastic insight! I love learning new details like this.
      I'm not trying to dispute what you're bringing up and I shouldn't be this conspiratorial about it all, but I do wonder sometimes if Justice has been intentionally muddying the waters and obfuscating their methods around their mixing/editing techniques.
      The sounds don't quite lend themselves to automation if that makes sense. On the other hand, maybe that is why their mixing is so unique and interesting compared to other programmed side-chains out there. Either way it would take a crazy amount of effort and time and I love what they've made. However it was done.
      Newjack would be a great one to do. Maybe the next Justice deconstruction, I'll try using the techniques you've mentioned here and see how it goes.

    • @DJKuroh
      @DJKuroh ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Karl Boltzmann They claim the first album was made in GarageBand. Does GarageBand even have the ability to do true sidechain compression?
      "Speaking to Pitchfork, Xavier de Rosnay said: A lot of people think it's bullshit when we say we use GarageBand, but it's actually an amazing tool."

    • @KarlBoltzmann
      @KarlBoltzmann  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@DJKuroh Wow. That makes me even more certain that they're blowing smoke. I really think they're just messing with everyone for shits and giggles. There isn't a DAW out there that is less equipped for professional work than GarageBand.

    • @DJKuroh
      @DJKuroh ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Karl Boltzmann possibly. There's a ton of samples on the record in terms of drums (like you mentioned), bass, guitar. They claim they suck at real instruments. There's tons of garageband loops buried on the record. "Encore [A Cross The Universe]" from the live album is just a straight up Garageband piano loop.
      I think we may be underestimating how much boring chop/copy/paste they were doing to build these songs.
      All their interviews read like "we're not great pure musicians, but we have the patience to take forever to make something."

    • @KarlBoltzmann
      @KarlBoltzmann  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DJKuroh Yeah, that's a good point. I personally love taking my time, chopping/cutting/pasting vs building in automation, so I can certainly understand that they might have just spent their time making this music that way. But doing all of that in GarageBand? Man, that is verging on the absurd.
      I can understand taking samples from GarageBand. Like they did with the string sample from iMovie. But making all of that album in GarageBand would be like finding out that a world famous full feature film, loved for its creative and groundbreaking editing was made exclusively on Windows Movie Maker. Not technically impossible, but close to unbelievable.

  • @scottking7186
    @scottking7186 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Awesome video. I remember where I was when I heard Stress for the first time. Very thorough!

    • @KarlBoltzmann
      @KarlBoltzmann  ปีที่แล้ว

      I could definitely see it having that kind of impact. Where did you hear it first?

    • @scottking7186
      @scottking7186 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KarlBoltzmann I was on a bus to Canada’s Wonderland on a high school trip. My friend played it to me as an uploaded track on Tumblr 😅

    • @KarlBoltzmann
      @KarlBoltzmann  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@scottking7186 Love it. I remember sitting with my diskman on the bus, listening to Building Steam on repeat, carefully balancing the thing to try to stop it constantly skipping. Good times.

  • @jonnydeep12inch
    @jonnydeep12inch 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    my favourite from that album.

  • @jackieboyborden
    @jackieboyborden 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Love this vid, love this track. Listen to it every time I'm in bad turbulence on a flight

    • @KarlBoltzmann
      @KarlBoltzmann  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Life on hard mode.

  • @d05music17
    @d05music17 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome work dude more stuff like this.. Genesis and Stress for sure are up there as faves

  • @M03NS
    @M03NS 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Killer Vid! Planning on flipping this track for a closing gig in January, hope it‘ll work out!

  • @csmcrckrs
    @csmcrckrs 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very well done ... the LinnDrum sounds are quite distinct, and you nailed the processing perfectly!

  • @MarcioSilva-ssiillvvaa
    @MarcioSilva-ssiillvvaa หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bloody fantastic man! Wow!

  • @idontcare4875
    @idontcare4875 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I find it really interesting to see how this song was made, Justice really has a way with samples
    my favourite off Cross is between Valentine and Newjack, I just can't decide between the two

  • @amandagordon1307
    @amandagordon1307 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Super video KB. DVNO is my fave from the album

  • @bhowlerr
    @bhowlerr 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You describe this song so well, Good Spice!

  • @jamesreid8840
    @jamesreid8840 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love this Karl 👍 New band for me to check out 😉 keep it up

    • @KarlBoltzmann
      @KarlBoltzmann  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This album is a classic! Well worth the listen.

  • @Norhkuna
    @Norhkuna 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great job on the de/reconstruction, I can tell a lot of effort went into this!
    My favourite off of cross might be basic, but it has to be Genesis. I can't get enough of that bassline and sampling in the second half

    • @KarlBoltzmann
      @KarlBoltzmann  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Genesis is also perfection.

  • @anthonyv6962
    @anthonyv6962 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    How have I never herd this? This is a great song it feels/sounds like a shifting balance between chaos an order. It's very punk.

    • @HT0o0
      @HT0o0 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hearing this nearly 20 years ago for the first time my jaw was on the floor. The music video is just as intense too

  • @DannyDKCV
    @DannyDKCV 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Glad to find another big fan of Stress, it's also one of my favorites from Cross. It reminds me of Doe Deer by Crystal Castles (RIP) in its' initially off putting nature but how both have become favorites of their respective bands.

    • @KarlBoltzmann
      @KarlBoltzmann  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, great example. CC had a few tracks with a similar vibe.

  • @Matisto1
    @Matisto1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Another great pick Karl, you and I have a lot in common in the music we appreciate. Thanks for the vid! Always loved Genesis from the album aswell. Their album Audio, Video, Disco also has some great stuff. Would you say that Kavinsky - Nightcall has a hook that is also the mix?

    • @KarlBoltzmann
      @KarlBoltzmann  ปีที่แล้ว

      That's a great example! The moodiness is baked into that mix. Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Kavinsky/Justice/Oizo all part of the same group of similar French artists? I bet there is a mixing connection between all of them. Would explain the similarly interesting and amazing mixes coming out of the French scene at that time.

    • @Matisto1
      @Matisto1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KarlBoltzmannKavinsky has worked with Mr. Oizo but as far as I can see he's never been part of Ed Banger Records of which Justice and Oizo are members. They definitely have influenced each other and used each others material. Always loved the artist in the Ed Banger Records group.

    • @KarlBoltzmann
      @KarlBoltzmann  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@Matisto1 Yeah, there was a special moment in the mid to late 2000's when it felt like something was really taking off with those Ed Banger associated groups. Kazinsky included even though I guess he wasn't technically part of that crew. Still blows my mind how sneaky popular Nightcall eventually became. It just hit a chord that no one had hit before. Love to see unique pieces of music get rewarded.

  • @bird6708
    @bird6708 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely brilliant explanation. Fav song would have to be the Phantoms.

    • @KarlBoltzmann
      @KarlBoltzmann  ปีที่แล้ว

      That's a great track! Phantom pt II is amazing too.

    • @bird6708
      @bird6708 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KarlBoltzmann Absolutely!

  • @JohnPaulBuce
    @JohnPaulBuce 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

  • @LeroybrownLR3mk02
    @LeroybrownLR3mk02 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It should be mentioned that the Devo sample is from the video for Jocko Homo. Same as the single version, but the 7" doesn't have the sirens. The version on the album is totally different, as it's produced by Brian Eno. (one of the best albums ever!)

    • @KarlBoltzmann
      @KarlBoltzmann  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Good detail. Thanks

  • @quibster
    @quibster ปีที่แล้ว +2

    9:23 verrry sound advice for anyone doing Ableton chops with a ton of usage of eq/comp/limiter. the built in limiter is really quite good as a tool, but if it isn't quite doing as good a job with texture as you'd might like in the master bus, ex. personally i feel sometimes the simpler limiters can rob you of a certain sense of dynamics, there is a (now unsupported) software vst version of Limiter No6 by vladg which is offered for free, which imo is a pretty great mastering limiter with a few more options bussed in, compression, peak limiter, hf limiter, clipper & protection.
    the author now sells that limiter commercially under a label for like 50 bux or something, but it seems ostensibly to mostly be the same software as the version historically offered for free as far as i'm aware. that said, i'm still on Live10 so i can't make any guarantees about it still working for those who stay on top of ableton updates and i'm not affiliated with the author/s or anything, though i believe especially as long as it is working, for the price of free it is great. it saves my ears & it doesn't chew cpu, so i'm quite happy with the performance and level of control it offers, enough to mention it anyway.

    • @KarlBoltzmann
      @KarlBoltzmann  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're absolutely right. I probably don't have the best ear for the dynamic differences between limiters, but I also have preferences and I'm not a big fan of the Ableton limiter in general. As a bit of a rule, I do try to stay within the Ableton ecosystem of fx and tools so that people can follow along easily if they want to.
      I remember using a software compressor back in the early 2000s that was part of Sonic Foundry's Acid (Or maybe Sony had bought it at that point...) that could crush the sound in such a pleasant way, like no other I've heard since. Although that was early in my music making career, so it probably isn't nearly as good as I remember.

  • @ballsteinyts
    @ballsteinyts 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    i heard they learned everything from Quentin aka Mr. Oizo

  • @SigmaDee
    @SigmaDee 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Another song where the mix is the hook. Sleigh bells - Crown on the ground.

    • @KarlBoltzmann
      @KarlBoltzmann  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      100%, great call. Treats is a classic! As an album it has other hooks going on, but the over the top mix is what really makes it stand out.

  • @knnyshn
    @knnyshn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good stuff! Curious where you got your linndrum samples from? Those are some solid ones (I have download many retro machine machine libraries) but finding a good linndrum one is
    sort of hard haha

    • @KarlBoltzmann
      @KarlBoltzmann  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's a good question. I was just looking at the samples from this track and it's all sort of a hodgepodge. I think I just picked up drum samples here and there over the years. Sorry, that doesn't really help!

  • @hgfskate
    @hgfskate 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Such an amazing breakdown of my favorite Justice track, thank you for this! Is there any way I could get the stems of your project please? 🙏🏻 Would love to play around with them!

    • @KarlBoltzmann
      @KarlBoltzmann  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's a busy time, so I'm not sure I'll have time, but if I do, I'll post a link here.

    • @hgfskate
      @hgfskate 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KarlBoltzmann thanks so much, I understand. Would be willing to pay as well!

    • @KarlBoltzmann
      @KarlBoltzmann  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I appreciate that! I'll see if I can find time in the near future.

    • @hgfskate
      @hgfskate 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KarlBoltzmann legend, thank you so much!!!

  • @potzorbie3120
    @potzorbie3120 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I remember hearing they used Garageband to mix and produce their first album on a laptop using the built-in speakers.

    • @KarlBoltzmann
      @KarlBoltzmann  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's come up a few times. I don't know for sure, one way or another, but my instincts tell me that they were telling people that for a laugh or to get a reaction.

  • @delaydelaydelay
    @delaydelaydelay ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome! Thank you. Where did you get those Linn Drum Samples? They sound great

    • @KarlBoltzmann
      @KarlBoltzmann  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! They're part of the sample pool that I have on my computer.
      I'm not 100% sure on this, but if you have Ableton Live, you should be able to download some free sample packs from their website that integrate straight into Ableton. I think some old drum machines packs are part of that. They're all good quality.

  • @blueswingdown
    @blueswingdown 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    been my favourite song from the album for a few years, very well done! have you done Genesis or Newjack yet?

    • @KarlBoltzmann
      @KarlBoltzmann  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They're on the list, but not yet

    • @blueswingdown
      @blueswingdown 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KarlBoltzmann can't wait!!!

  • @skywardstargaze1768
    @skywardstargaze1768 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    4:14 alternatively you could create a volume gate automation

    • @KarlBoltzmann
      @KarlBoltzmann  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That might be what they did

  • @bobbycarreras9475
    @bobbycarreras9475 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    never even knew lil uzi sampled this song till now

  • @phartsmone854
    @phartsmone854 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Are you going to descontruct more of Paul's Bontique?

    • @KarlBoltzmann
      @KarlBoltzmann  ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolutely! I'm going to do the whole album.

    • @phartsmone854
      @phartsmone854 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KarlBoltzmann Nice

  • @skywardstargaze1768
    @skywardstargaze1768 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    7:45 wait how the hell did you do that

    • @KarlBoltzmann
      @KarlBoltzmann  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In Live you can move around the transients in the clip display window. There are lots of great options to mess around with a sample in there that you wouldn't have otherwise. However, I like to manipulate my samples on the grid...It just feels more tactile, but there are instances where it's better to move and manipulate the sample using the clip display window at the bottom.

  • @MrBanana808
    @MrBanana808 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Nice break down. If you like Justice, then you might dig my music.

  • @romeisfallingagain
    @romeisfallingagain ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the EQ at the end hahahahahahahahahaha. i wonder if they just did that just to show off?

    • @KarlBoltzmann
      @KarlBoltzmann  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It might even be a result of whatever pedals/vsts they were running it through. It's hard to say, but I'd love to have a conversation with them about how they made this.

    • @romeisfallingagain
      @romeisfallingagain ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KarlBoltzmann absolutely. have you ever approached them for comment?

    • @KarlBoltzmann
      @KarlBoltzmann  ปีที่แล้ว

      I've never been in touch with them tbh. I'm not sure I have enough of a presence to get their attention.