Hi. Thanks for watching. Constructive criticism is a good thing and helps us all get better. Thank for you the useful comments I've had on this. In hindsight, the reverb on the bass wasn't right and I should have looked into a Boss HM-2 style distortion. The compression needs to be pushed harder with the release settings tweaked to give it all a "pump". Their treatment of samples is more raw too with the glitches, pops and aliasing often being deliberately used as part of the sound. Anyway, hope the other stuff gave some pointers.
@@AlexBallMusic Fuck that I like the dust flecks. Totally agree the reverb on the bass wasn't quite wrong, but it wasn't quite right. Side chain compression triggered by the kick and snare on the whole track would nicely achieve your "pump" effect without crushing it all too hard. Nice work.
For some reason most audio tutorials have terrible production, especially in the intros but you my friend, have wicked skills as both a musician, creative producer and audio engineering with surgical precision. Btw you collection of synths is making me drool.
Your videos are not just enlightening technically, they show considerable musical flair and raw talent. All channelled through heartfelt passion for sharing in a humble and genuine way. I can honestly say at first I thought the sample was from a Gap Band tune or something..the fact it was your own original creation was superb. Do you have your own musical identity as a performer? Do you ever do gigs? Bravo!
Thank you Simeon, that's very kind of you. I hope the tutorials are of use! Basically TH-cam is a passion project I do late at night. My day job is a composer, producer and supervisor. The gigging story is a long one, perhaps I'll tell it one day if it's relevant.
Totally agree, I saw one video from him and now I get weird looking faces from him on my youtube, alex's videos are so enjoyable. I just found him few days ago and I'm absolutely blown away :)
Very cool! Justice's live bass parts always have a really distinctive sound too, especially on the first album. It's like they've got a very distinctive way of bandpass filtering them, with a quite a high Q, so it's "bass" but without much actual bass.
Wow. One of the most in-depth, detailed, straight-forward music tutorials I have seen. Ever. Great attention to detail, especially with the creation of your own sample. Thanks for the share!
Honestly, have no idea how you kept the pace of this SO quick. This had me on the edge of my seat beginning to end. I get bored with a lot of tutorials, but this felt more like a private lesson or even jam session. Well done
Mate, this is quickly becoming my favourite channel on TH-cam. Amazing stuff. Keep it up. And if you ever wanted to breakdown some FlyLo or Bonobo, well, I wouldn't be sad about it ❤🔥🙌
Finally more people on the same page when it comes to making your own samples!!! I'm going to share this with some of my industry friends. and for some friends getting into music . inspiration is key . thank you for making this
I'm going through your older videos after finding you a couple of years ago, and I wish you did more of this kind of stuff! More recently you've been very focused on sound design and synth/fx walkthroughs, which is great, but here there's a treasure trove of useful tips for composition, mixing and mastering, which is no less important.
THANK YOU for going over the techniques instead of just attempting to recreate. Much better for learning instead of the general "hey just copy this" drivel. Your sound was definitely very Justice. I think I remember reading that a lot of their gritty "synth" sounds were actually bass guitar microsamples?
Thanks so much for such an informative tutorial! I love how you process your videos to look like they were filmed on retro tape, even down to the grains.
Revisiting this to get ready for Justice's upcoming release. Really this is as good as it gets in terms of youtube tutorials. Bitcrushing and overdrive goes a long way, and the pro one sounds massive. It's worth mentioning the chokehold that the plugin dBlue glitch had on all blog house and french touch at the time. Have an upcoming 8 bar loop and want to do something different, but not feeling particularly ambitious? Have glitch just mess around with it and see what happens!
Video is absolutely unreal. It’s incredible. The problem is it doesn’t motivate me to get better at production, it just clearly demonstrates that from a composition, engineering, synthesis and creativity perspective; it’s unlikely that I’ll ever improve to a comparable level, even if I focused all my energy on improving my knowledge and ability on all of the above.
Hi Adam. Sorry to hear, that wasn't the outcome I was hoping for. I don't have any magical skills or talent above and beyond, I just spent decades trying to learn as much as I could through education and practice. It is totally achievable, in fact many people go way, way, way beyond what I'll ever be able to do. So, I'd hope this video would give some pointers to people who are working away on their own journey, even if it's just one relevant thing.
@@AlexBallMusic I think it just showed me I'm a little further behind than I want to be! But without videos like this, I wouldn't know how best to improve, so thank you; it's incredible.
Really cool, loved this. Actually, Justice use less stuff in their songs, they're really clean in number of things that are happening, but at the same time they're so gritty and punchy!
I’ve shared this to many producer / musician mates and pointed them towards your superb channel. Thank you for putting in the time to wise us mere mortals up with you excellent production skills. Would love to hear your take on modern techno, not that EDM stuff though.
This is awesome. Such a huge amount of work for a one minute song. I hope that you continued the idea, finished the track and it's available somewhere.
I also got quite surprised on how quick you did it, I saw that Daft Punk vid and the comments there where asking for it, and already it's here, shows you care about your public s2
Awesome insight in how good music is hard work, because holy crap that's some laborious sh*t! Now I understand why my own music often sounds empty and uninspired. I'm just only doing 10% and expect to be done... but the work hasn't even started then :D Especially the rhythm track (or rather, collection of tracks) is impressive.
@3:34 "That kind of, DYEWWWW kind of thing." Love your interpretation of that MS-20 sound :) Justice recently posted IRIS: A Space Opera on TH-cam and I had to come back and revisit this production overview!
You have a genius ear ... I wish I'd worked harder on that years ago, but then again I had to go to medical school and stuff I suppose (excuses for lack of talent etc ☺️) ... still I absolutely love the fact that you're willing to help the rest of us out. Awesome is overused .... but you ARE (is?) that :) Thanks yet again Alex 👌👌
Dude you are a magician! Its crazy! I wold really like to know more about your background. Glad I found your channel and thanks for sharing all the tips and tricks!
I like electronic music but I wasn't too familiar with Justice. I saw them live for the first time last year and I was not expecting much but their performance was amazing.
Some can nit pick this and the mix and such but the composition on this is so fucking FIRE! You really nailed the energy and the essence of Justice Style music for sure! Fuck the haters!
The only thing I think is missing (and its really the tiniest detail), is the brutal compression on the samples, like the slap bass and so on. Other than that, fantastic video! Subscribed!
Thanks. Yes, you're absolutely right. In hindsight I should have gone harder overall. I think it's because my personal preference is a slightly more dynamic sound and so I let my own taste into play a bit too much.
Been writing this sort of stuff recently and the addition of that fat old slapper is essential. A big part of Justice is their mixing, its kind of obscurely thin sounding in places but stylistically works together as a whole. Thats their secret sauce and bloody hard to conjure up.
the hard thing is that their approach was more about heavy layering with billion plugins tryng to emulate fm radio processing, that was a very chaotic process so it's literally impossible to come close sonically
I'm a bit late to the party here and I'm not sure if it has been mentioned, but something that Justice (and many others of the similar genre) use is a metric fuckton of sidechain compression or any similar technique that achieves the same level-dipping sonically. The lack of that during the electronic part of the song was probably the only thing that stood out for me. Other than that, solid work as always!
This was helpful. Im also trying to figure out how LORN creates the sound of his bass and synths....lots of interesting stuff going on there. Would you b interested in looking into that?
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Hi. Thanks for watching.
Constructive criticism is a good thing and helps us all get better. Thank for you the useful comments I've had on this.
In hindsight, the reverb on the bass wasn't right and I should have looked into a Boss HM-2 style distortion.
The compression needs to be pushed harder with the release settings tweaked to give it all a "pump".
Their treatment of samples is more raw too with the glitches, pops and aliasing often being deliberately used as part of the sound.
Anyway, hope the other stuff gave some pointers.
Could you consider to not use that filter over the whole video that adds flecks of dust?
I quite like it and others say they do too, but I can make it more subtle, sure.
@@AlexBallMusic The colour grading looks fine, it's just the dust flecks :)
@@AlexBallMusic Fuck that I like the dust flecks. Totally agree the reverb on the bass wasn't quite wrong, but it wasn't quite right. Side chain compression triggered by the kick and snare on the whole track would nicely achieve your "pump" effect without crushing it all too hard. Nice work.
Alex Ball hahaha I thought the first bit was a real sample!! 😂 so good
"if you're not willing to make a fool of yourself, you're not gonna get very far in music"
very true words have been spoken!
I make a fool of myself every day, so it comes naturally.
@@AlexBallMusic like Magpie
For some reason most audio tutorials have terrible production, especially in the intros but you my friend, have wicked skills as both a musician, creative producer and audio engineering with surgical precision. Btw you collection of synths is making me drool.
I'm sad we didn't get a full track out of this. It's amazing.
Your videos are not just enlightening technically, they show considerable musical flair and raw talent. All channelled through heartfelt passion for sharing in a humble and genuine way.
I can honestly say at first I thought the sample was from a Gap Band tune or something..the fact it was your own original creation was superb.
Do you have your own musical identity as a performer? Do you ever do gigs?
Bravo!
Well said. Totally agree.
Thank you Simeon, that's very kind of you. I hope the tutorials are of use!
Basically TH-cam is a passion project I do late at night. My day job is a composer, producer and supervisor. The gigging story is a long one, perhaps I'll tell it one day if it's relevant.
@@AlexBallMusic I'm not surprised you make a living from music.
This is why we have nice things
dude compared to Andrew Huang style gimmicks, this is the real deal that truly inspires and teach people solid stuff.
Totally agree, I saw one video from him and now I get weird looking faces from him on my youtube, alex's videos are so enjoyable. I just found him few days ago and I'm absolutely blown away :)
Huang is awesome. Don't be a hater. Both can inspire people.
No point in comparing. Enjoy both. That’s what I do. I learn from both. Hang is more of a showman but he is talented.
They're both great.
@@wondashozen jokin', right?
Recording everything in your own sample. Can’t tell if that’s post-modern, post-post-modern, or anti-post-modern.
Anti-post-post modern?
Meta-modern!
Hyper nostalgia
Its called being a proper musician. Too many sampling and cookie cutter ”producers” in music these days. This is refreshing!
@@ErikEkholm Agreed, this is a lot cooler and more interesting to me.
Very cool! Justice's live bass parts always have a really distinctive sound too, especially on the first album. It's like they've got a very distinctive way of bandpass filtering them, with a quite a high Q, so it's "bass" but without much actual bass.
Wow. One of the most in-depth, detailed, straight-forward music tutorials I have seen. Ever. Great attention to detail, especially with the creation of your own sample. Thanks for the share!
Thanks. Glad it was of use. :)
Honestly, have no idea how you kept the pace of this SO quick. This had me on the edge of my seat beginning to end. I get bored with a lot of tutorials, but this felt more like a private lesson or even jam session. Well done
Mate, this is quickly becoming my favourite channel on TH-cam. Amazing stuff. Keep it up. And if you ever wanted to breakdown some FlyLo or Bonobo, well, I wouldn't be sad about it ❤🔥🙌
Finally more people on the same page when it comes to making your own samples!!! I'm going to share this with some of my industry friends. and for some friends getting into music . inspiration is key . thank you for making this
I'm going through your older videos after finding you a couple of years ago, and I wish you did more of this kind of stuff! More recently you've been very focused on sound design and synth/fx walkthroughs, which is great, but here there's a treasure trove of useful tips for composition, mixing and mastering, which is no less important.
THANK YOU for going over the techniques instead of just attempting to recreate. Much better for learning instead of the general "hey just copy this" drivel.
Your sound was definitely very Justice. I think I remember reading that a lot of their gritty "synth" sounds were actually bass guitar microsamples?
Thanks so much for such an informative tutorial! I love how you process your videos to look like they were filmed on retro tape, even down to the grains.
This tutorial not only teaches but inspires you to make music. Good stuff!
Man This is a great producer tutorial. Perfectly explained and all by yourself.....
Revisiting this to get ready for Justice's upcoming release. Really this is as good as it gets in terms of youtube tutorials. Bitcrushing and overdrive goes a long way, and the pro one sounds massive. It's worth mentioning the chokehold that the plugin dBlue glitch had on all blog house and french touch at the time. Have an upcoming 8 bar loop and want to do something different, but not feeling particularly ambitious? Have glitch just mess around with it and see what happens!
I’ve been watching music tuts here on TH-cam for years and your channel is some real next level content .. love this! More justice / ed banger stuff
Being in the mixing and mastering profession. I am staggered by how good this sounds. You have hit the feeling perfectly. I'm now a subscriber
This is incredible! I will definitely be checking out more of your stuff man. Top notch.
Video is absolutely unreal. It’s incredible. The problem is it doesn’t motivate me to get better at production, it just clearly demonstrates that from a composition, engineering, synthesis and creativity perspective; it’s unlikely that I’ll ever improve to a comparable level, even if I focused all my energy on improving my knowledge and ability on all of the above.
Hi Adam.
Sorry to hear, that wasn't the outcome I was hoping for.
I don't have any magical skills or talent above and beyond, I just spent decades trying to learn as much as I could through education and practice.
It is totally achievable, in fact many people go way, way, way beyond what I'll ever be able to do. So, I'd hope this video would give some pointers to people who are working away on their own journey, even if it's just one relevant thing.
@@AlexBallMusic I think it just showed me I'm a little further behind than I want to be! But without videos like this, I wouldn't know how best to improve, so thank you; it's incredible.
Really cool, loved this. Actually, Justice use less stuff in their songs, they're really clean in number of things that are happening, but at the same time they're so gritty and punchy!
The fact you made your own funk sample is insane. Very inspiring vid.
I’ve shared this to many producer / musician mates and pointed them towards your superb channel. Thank you for putting in the time to wise us mere mortals up with you excellent production skills. Would love to hear your take on modern techno, not that EDM stuff though.
Dude these videos are so well put together, informative and entertaining...absolutely love this. You deserve my subs my dude. ❤️
This is awesome. Such a huge amount of work for a one minute song. I hope that you continued the idea, finished the track and it's available somewhere.
Man, you’re a stone cold legend 👌
I've been waiting for someone to do a video like this for a few years! Thanks for doing this!!
Very informative Alex.
Like your vids a lot.
Thanks Marko. Love your work too!
How do you produce something this detailed so fast? Can you do a video on workflow and efficiency?
years of producing and youll get there, some get there faster...yeah a video on workflow would be cool
I googled "how does justice make their music" thinking no chance i'd get anything worthwhile. boy was i wrong. Amazing vid.
I’m currently making a remix of rapture that’s slowly turning into a justice remix. This has helped
This was great! Totally has the Justice vibe
This was fantastic! How about "music that sounds like Tobacco" next? Been heavily into them (him) lately.
Brilliant video! I love how you created the sample yourself. Sounds great!
Huge thanks for listening, endless gratitude to you.
I also got quite surprised on how quick you did it, I saw that Daft Punk vid and the comments there where asking for it, and already it's here, shows you care about your public s2
You need far more views and subscribers. The production here, both audio and video, is outstanding.
I think their first album was produced mostly with GarageBand, I think they said that in an interview
They also said the used a S2000 sampler. It’s kind of hard to take these guys seriously in terms of how they produce their stuff haha
Tim do you want a photo of cross album session?
@@pachacache5186 Why not :)
@@pachacache5186 i do !!!!!!!!!!!!! please !
9:59 “and then with the drums...” HOLY SHIT 🔥🔥🔥
Dude you are killing it with these productions!
Probably The best review/tutorial i have ever seen duuude!!!
Ah, nice to start the year with someone who really knows what they're doing. Thanks!
plus the casual "I made my own loop" :-)
Awesome insight in how good music is hard work, because holy crap that's some laborious sh*t!
Now I understand why my own music often sounds empty and uninspired. I'm just only doing 10% and expect to be done... but the work hasn't even started then :D
Especially the rhythm track (or rather, collection of tracks) is impressive.
@3:34 "That kind of, DYEWWWW kind of thing." Love your interpretation of that MS-20 sound :) Justice recently posted IRIS: A Space Opera on TH-cam and I had to come back and revisit this production overview!
You’ve just got yourself a new subscriber! I love Justice and this is EXCELLENT
Great vid! Love Justice †
You have a genius ear ... I wish I'd worked harder on that years ago, but then again I had to go to medical school and stuff I suppose (excuses for lack of talent etc ☺️) ... still I absolutely love the fact that you're willing to help the rest of us out. Awesome is overused .... but you ARE (is?) that :) Thanks yet again Alex 👌👌
That was spectacular. Amazing work! Thank you for the video
finally someone with the right drums and sounds and effects
"Harnessing my inner Kermit the frog"
Thinking about it, it's more Miss Piggy.
AAaaah ed banger records, i used to love what those guys released (Dj mehdi the king RIP)
Dude you are a magician! Its crazy! I wold really like to know more about your background. Glad I found your channel and thanks for sharing all the tips and tricks!
Amazing. Thank you for making this video! Very helpful. You are so talented.
Great video, very informative! Also, that vulf compressor was a pleasant surprise!
I see an Alex Ball video, I click. That's just how it works. Excellent video!
Love this video! Especially your high choir voices
Gosh. This is a high quality pro stuff right here.
I’m not even 5mins in. This already sounds incredible 😂 3:50
Awesome tutorial. Many thanks for sharing it
You’re “sample” you made sounds like a Flight of the Concords track lmao
Your original sample is so funny, great video!
Very cool, thanks Alex. Picked up some great tips here, even if I wouldn't ever make a Justice style track :)
awesome work Alex! really been enjoying your videos
Blown away!!! Really enjoyed this, thanks Alex!
I like electronic music but I wasn't too familiar with Justice. I saw them live for the first time last year and I was not expecting much but their performance was amazing.
Transition on the end was dope man.
Some can nit pick this and the mix and such but the composition on this is so fucking FIRE! You really nailed the energy and the essence of Justice Style music for sure! Fuck the haters!
sampling yourself is 🔥! awesome track btw
This is golden content man!
The only thing I think is missing (and its really the tiniest detail), is the brutal compression on the samples, like the slap bass and so on. Other than that, fantastic video! Subscribed!
Thanks. Yes, you're absolutely right. In hindsight I should have gone harder overall. I think it's because my personal preference is a slightly more dynamic sound and so I let my own taste into play a bit too much.
Been writing this sort of stuff recently and the addition of that fat old slapper is essential. A big part of Justice is their mixing, its kind of obscurely thin sounding in places but stylistically works together as a whole. Thats their secret sauce and bloody hard to conjure up.
Also, more film grain over everything... even the music.
Amazing video man!, thanks for share!
You are freakishly good my man
the hard thing is that their approach was more about heavy layering with billion plugins tryng to emulate fm radio processing, that was a very chaotic process so it's literally impossible to come close sonically
out of curiosity, do you have a link to where you read/heard that?
@@nathanwailes I don't have the link either, but I confirm :) I read it or heard it in one of their interviews, somewhere, a long long time ago.
Awesome track and breakdown, bruh! You are indeed very talented! ✊
I thoroughly enjoyed this. Good fun🙌👍
Totally throwing out some quality tutorials here recently!! Killer track you created too, sounds phat!
All I can say is, keep 'm coming! :)
That Quadra Fuzz is crazy, Ive got to try it
Another great one !! Happy 2019!
Great vid Alex, TY. Love the Vulf!
I like the slap of the bass, very early DD John Taylor 🎸
Awesome! Just needs a Bruno Mars vocal and you've got a bona fide radio hit.
Why can I only give one thumb up?
This was such a banger, oh my goodness I love this.
Love how you kept the film grain and scratch filter on for the screen recordings.
It’s little things like this, that make his channel effortless to watch.
You are the coolest! Yet another great video from you!
*extremely Jack Conte voice* THIS IS IT! THIS IS IT!
Wow man.. just, wow. You're fucking awesome!
I told you before. To me you are a God
Holy. Shit. You composed a work so you would have something that SOUNDS like a sample. I hope this is also your day-job and you make huge bank.
All my earnings have been solely from music since 2007. Yes.
Your channel is amazing. Great work!
I'm a bit late to the party here and I'm not sure if it has been mentioned, but something that Justice (and many others of the similar genre) use is a metric fuckton of sidechain compression or any similar technique that achieves the same level-dipping sonically. The lack of that during the electronic part of the song was probably the only thing that stood out for me. Other than that, solid work as always!
Thanks. Yep, a few things not right in this video but I live and learn.
Heavy side-chaining was one as you rightly say.
This was helpful. Im also trying to figure out how LORN creates the sound of his bass and synths....lots of interesting stuff going on there. Would you b interested in looking into that?
AAAAAAAH ! Nothing can't stop Alex Ball. Great Video !
Another great video!!!
Thanks 👍
You are my master. Thank very much you for this video :) I have a question. I can buy these epic LED glasses
?
Wow. This sounds amazing.