IS IT NORMAL TO FEEL DEPRESSED IN EARLY SOBRIETY? (16 Days Sober)
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My name is Noah and on May 18 2011, I had a rare reaction to a medication called VIVITROL and consequently, spiraled into a suicidal depression with depersonalization and anxiety. I lost 25 lbs in 4 weeks and was in full panic or near panic for 8 weeks straight mixed with the darkest most painful depression I cold have ever imagined. I immediately could not work and had to move in with my parents who, along with many siblings and friends, had to watch me 24/7 as I was a danger to myself. Eventually I was hospitalized in the Psych Ward for a week. Getting through each day seemed truly unbearable and I knew I would surely die. I have been put on many many different doctor prescribed SSRI's SNRI's Tricyclics, mood stabilizers, anti-psychotics, holistic meds, acupuncture and even a form of shock therapy called RTMS. I barely saw any improvement in my condition for a full year. It was decided I had treatment resistant depression and I spent nearly every moment in tears. Weeks after starting my newest round of medications (Seroquel & Nortryptaline) as a last ditch effort, I had my blood drawn for possible hormone imbalances and my Testosterone levels came back 200 ng/Dl and 150 ng/Dl. The average 25 year old male has 750 ng/Dl. With this discovery I had an explanation as to why I was not getting better and why I might be so so sick. The symptoms of Low T are very similar to those of major depression. I started legally prescribed testosterone replacement therapy soon after and have been checking in with the world and documenting my experience with treatment as well as giving my insight and perspective on various topics of mental health. I am blessed to say that I have slowly, over the last 6 years, been improving and becoming more stable which I never thought to be possible. My low T manifested itself in the form of Major depression, anxiety, and depersonalization/ derealization for over a year. Treating my low testosterone has been 1 HUGE part of the puzzle but I have had to continue to work hard to hold on to my mental stability with many set backs. Gaining some mental stability back is nothing short of a miracle as I was near death for what felt like forever. I do not consider myself to be totally healed yet but I am closer now then ever before and aim to use what I have been through to help or at least offer support to others in need I was able to successfully come off my Seroquel and Pamelor.
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Early sobriety can be extremely hard mentally, emotionally, and physically. I know for me there was a reason I drank so hard. It had been a long while since I was just "having fun". Self medicating was something I'd denied adamantly but it's crystal clear having been removed from drink for nearly 3 weeks that it was solving something for me that I did not know how to solve on my own. I am now replacing alcohol with 12 step meetings, sponsor work, counseling sessions, youtube, gym, and time with my wife. It may be a long hard fight but a worthy fight. DON'T TRY AND DO THIS ALONE.
bignoknow if you need a break through. Go on a spirit walk in a far away place with real survival. Might be scary but it makes you think about life and what it really is. Nature.
Might even be better doing it butt naked haha.
That's right man. I learned in treatment one time, that if it were possible to do that alone, i wouldn't have been in that situation to begin with. Stay strong brother!
I'm 7 days sober now and completely alone. I was full of energy the first few days, and now I'm too anxious to even go outside. I changed my diet to mainly plant based, am working out 2-3times a day, quit smoking the same day I quit drinking... And I've only told one person so far. I don't want to meet with any of my "friends" because most of them have some sort of addiction and I want to distance myself from that completely. My family doesn't believe me or believe in me that I can kick my bad habits.... I've been a high functioning alcoholic for over 12 years and each kick only lasted maybe 3 days max before relapse. This is the longest I've ever gone and I'm SO proud of myself. I can't remember ever feeling this good!! But I'm alone... I'm not necessarily lonely, but I guess I kind of am. I don't really have anyone sincere to talk to and the more I think about it, the more depressed it get. I watch motivational vids all day, play my guitar, keep myself busy somehow.... I guess I'm kind of ok with celebrating my own successes alone. I'm not sure if I did let anybody in right now.. if that would help at all. I've been lied to and hurt too many times to have my tarnished heart (which I am practicing polishing to shine brighter each day) trampled upon any further.....
This is my third day sober and can’t seem to figure out why I keep having constant breakdowns but this video helps me to realize what’s going on.. I was masking any emotion I had before with vodka. All day everyday. And now that I don’t have it anymore I’m feeling everything all at once but mostly depression..
MoonChild333 keep going, I believe in you!
28 years sober. What do I know? At your stage physically, emotionally, spiritually your system doesn't know what's going on. It takes time to get on an even keel. All the little rituals of recovery program help you get through those tough times. Also you need to develop new habits. Exercise. YES. Runners high is real. I have found exercise to be the best thing for depression. But, what do I know
11 days sober. You hit it on the head on exactly how I'm feeling. Glad to know I'm not alone. Can't wait until this feeling passes. It's so hard not to drink with this current mind frame.
4 years after your comment....and I'M 11 days sober! hope you're doing ok.
I searched 16 days sober n I thought it was crazy that ur title is exactly 16 days :) I’m exhausted 😩 but I’m so happy to be sober
49 days and feeling incredible.
Keep going, pals.
Excellent topic! I actually did a video about this on my channel last year some time. YES. It's completely normal, and you did a good job relaying the science associated with this issue. I work at a rehab and do groups about this because many people struggle with depression in early sobriety. The way I explain it is that we've been using substances to create an excess flood of dopamine in the brain, so the brain now expects that to happen. Then, we take that substance away and the brain is no longer creating dopamine amongst other neurotransmitters in the same way (serotonin, endorphins etc.) On average, if a person had one primary substance of choice, it takes roughly 6 months for the brain to regain the ability to create dopamine. Anti-depressants aren't a cure-all, but they can help you get back to the base line. This is important because throughout long-term substance abuse, our base line for happiness and joy changes dramatically.
What I also teach people is a bunch of natural ways to create neurotransmitters in the brain to help get out of depression in early sobriety. I recently did a book review on my channel about a book called The Upward Spiral, and I HIGHLY recommend it to any addict in recovery. It's filled with scientifically proven ways to increase positive neurotransmitters. For example, creating small, precise goals and accomplishing them creates serotonin and dopamine. Going for short walks outside (or more exercise) creates endorphins, dopamine, serotonin AND melatonin (which is great because many people struggle with sleep in early sobriety).
If you combine this knowledge with behavioral science, you can use these tools to develop healthy habits to help pull you out of depression in early sobriety.
Congrats on your 16 days! and feel free to hit me up if you ever want to chat.
Thanks for your info. Checking out the upward spiral.
Hey man thanks so much for that comment. Its going to go a long way for me.
True! I take antidepressant/anti anxiety medication and it really helps. I started the gym again after off for 2 years. I go everyday because it makes me feel better. I also have a rebounder I bounce on daily. I have a physical job which helps too. Thanks for your comment. I listen to you too on TH-cam. I listen to almost everyone because I feel encouraged.
@@darsongsify how are you now?
I'm 5 months clean of weed and I'm feeling so depressed 😢😢😢
Thank you for sharing. Good luck in your sobriety and mental wellness!!
Your experience, strength and hope really helped me at this moment in my life. Thanks brother.
Take care Noah. I don't have a problem with alcohol, but I follow you because I have treatment resistant major depression, anxiety, and BPD. I have had suicidal thoughts for years. And listening to you helps me so much. I am so glad you are still able to make videos. We need more people like you who are honest and care about the people they are speaking to. Thank you so much for letting me know someone cares and understands.
On day 8 .... just woke up ... feel terrible . U think ur going to feel great . Depression and not sleeping . Then falling asleep during the day ..xxxxx
You have gone through this before, You are determined and you know your reasons to be sober
I truely and genuinely believe you can do it
You are doing so well. I know it’s not easy I’ve been there but you are incredibly Positive and that’s the Key to success.Well done and Thank You for another great Video.
Good job Noah. 16 days is great. Im back on day 1. Had a seizure last night and couldn't feel my legs for a few hours. It is such a tough battle. Your followers and friends are here with you.
dannyboi162 so sorry man. Stay brave.
Dannybio, did the seizure happen during the time you were going through withdraws? I ask because my friend had that happen and it's very scary. Great for you that you started over with today being day 1 stay strong!
I had over six big seizures when i was on pills. It's scary on both ends. Feel horrible my family had to see it. Very scary, especially having memory problems since. It can happen during use, or withdrawal.
Thanks Noah. We are all on the same boat and we need to keep Rowing to survive. No matter how we struggle in sobriety it’s better than we go back to the old delusion and to the vicious cycle. One day at a time bro :)
Yeah, depression can definitely spike in early recovery. You got everything spot on Noah. What i've also heard people say in 12 step meetings is that when they have moments where they feel like putting in or when they see them selves falling down old paths, they say its their addiction trying to pull them back in. Also that's awesome that you're working the program man
2 days sober my second round. The emotions and severe anxiety are hitting like a brick, and haven’t really been able to fall asleep for more than 15 min. Physical symptoms are starting to feel better at least. Feeling more motivated and this video helps a lot.
I can empathize completely. I know that I needed support to get this done. Especially in the first 30 to 40 days. I encourage you to go find all the support you can possibly get as your brain will be trying to play tricks on you to get you to go back. Sending you courage.
I love how brave you are!
You are wonderful for sharing your experience. Thank you!
Depression and alcohol go hand in hand. I use it for self medication knowingly in the end booze will make things worse. My relationship with alcohol is comparable to a bad marriage, I know I have to get out cos it will devour me but still ... Also it's like the chicken and the egg question which came first? The drink or the depression ... in the short term alcohol "cures" depression but in the long run it causes it and makes it far more menacing. A tightrope dance between feeling good and FUBAR, A painful dilemma ...
Well kudos to you! My father was an alcoholic and died from complications from it. I am sure that he too suffered from depression. It is very normal, but you are certainly not alone. You have made such progress and should be proud. It will be a day by day, if not hour by hour...but you will make it through. Thank you for making these videos and thank you for sharing your situation. I just found you through your fathers page (whom I adore, he’s just so positive)! Hang in there partner!! 👊🏻
I know I have told you before I have a friend who reminds me so much of you. Almost even in looks. He cut our relationship off almost a year ago and claimed to be in love with someone else. That I could deal with, but there's more to the story that I will not share on here. I just am very proud of you sharing your journey with is and at least continue to try to stay sober. I just wanted you to know I cheering you on from the side lines and understand your struggle. I helped him detox twice from withdrawal and it was very scary and felt at one point I wanted to call 911. I didn't and thank God he made it through both times. I stayed up with him for 36 hours while he was detoxing. I don't wish that on my worse enemy. Like you said minute by minute, hour by hour, day by day. I will continue to pray for you and Jess for strength to keep going. Stay
ST💪ONG!!!!!
{{{hugs}}}
I think anytime a person with anxiety makes changes (medications/TRT ect) it can lead to a spike in anxiety, or depression. The reason is we internalize everything so much.
That's me with food. I hate that I'm obese but it numbs my feelings. So I eat to feel better but once I'm done I feel worse.
It’s a vicious cycle. I’ve had that relationship with food in the past. Just check my old vids from a few years ago. I was trying to eat myself happy while sober and it was not working
I an in that same boat. People don't understand because food is everywhere.
unfortunately doctors don't just hand out adderall
I’m a little less than 2 months sober and I’m glad to hear that depression during early sobriety is normal. I also chased away my negative feelings with alcohol and now all those feelings are flooding back.
Thank you for sharing this video Noah. I am two days sober and looking to make it many more.
I have self medicated with alcohol due to my anxiety and depression. I myself have experienced this before and after several days of it, I always went back to drinking. It's comforting to know that it isn't just me. It's just sometimes part of the process. This helps me get through those "blue" times just knowing that I am not alone in this and that there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Yes Please make more videos on this topic!! Thank you for sharing your life with us.
I appreciate your honesty and I completely understand. It's a very very VERY hard thing to do letting go of alcohol and I am in the fight of my life right now. I do believe the pain I feel between my ears is worth the reward of freedom from alcohol but WOW is it uncomfortable.
Word. It really sucks but look at all the things you've accomplished that you never thought you would be able to do. This is another one of those mountains to climb but you will get over it. All of us struggling will too if we just press on. We are climbing the Mount Everest of Sobriety with you. You can do it Noah.
thanks for your video it has been so helpful
I woke up this morning after drinking a load (I’ve been drinking every second day for the past year since my boyfriend died may10th is the anniversary’s these past few weeks it’s been everyday ) i know it’s a problem since waking up today I’ve had shortness of breath & paranoia / fast heart rate & then this video pops up in my feed I’m treating it as a sign . Thanks for this ❤️
Korissa Silver please stay strong you can pull through anything i promise just take baby steps maybe start with the alcohol problem.Honey your bf is in a better place and life has so much to offer dont give up on yourself. All love all power all beauty is within you ❤
How are u doing a year after you're comment??
Hope your doing well!
How is it going after a year Korissa?
Are you still sober?
I'm praying for your recovery
Been sober 2+ years now, and i can say depression never truly goes away completely.... all you can hope for is more good days than bad
Hang in there. I think around year 5 the depression really started to diminish for me. I still have small depressive episodes but they are manageable.
Oh god 2+ years sounds horrible. Im two months in and having some depression.
Kay find something you love to do and make it part of your life, sobriety isn't easy or fun regardless of what people want to tell you but it is better than the alternative
IWreck thanks for replying! I know it will get better. Just taking each day at a time. Having a hard time sticking to stuff since ive been a little down. But when i just make myself do it i feel better and enjoy the fact of doing other things than sitting and obsessing and worrying.
Kay Doing something in fitness and eating right will help a lot
Day 15 for me (not alcohol). The first week, my whole body hurt & I couldn't sleep. The body aches have subsided but the insomnia is still in full swing. The mental struggle has hit me hard the past two days.
Thank you for this. I'm 29 days in and my rumination is killing me. Whilst I have almost no urge to drink, my general will to live is seriously dropping. Thank you for this vid, you made me feel less insane.
I'm right with you. It will get better!
Lewis, what do you mean when you said, "Your will to live is dropping."? That worries me. I hope you meant that with your sobriety you are WANTING to love more.
I'm sober but I've been depressed. Thankfully, today wasn't so bad, so it's a relief to know it won't be forever.
I heard a great quote on this, don’t overthink it, lace up your shoes. Get out start moving, move enough you’ll sleep
Be brave and turn it over is the best daily advise anyone could hear
Yasssss! Withdrawal sucks but you can get through it.
Hey Noah, love your channel and sending good vibes. Question - what's your vlogging camera again? You mentioned it in a recent video but I can't find it. Any info appreciated, thanks!
Thanks a lot for the video. I developed an addiction to cannabis about two years ago. A very unhealthy abusive relationship. It didn't matter that cannabis has made me feel derealization or intense anxiety/paranoia among a wide variety of other symptoms. I've been so sick and still am and despite cannabis making it even worse, I'd still smoke everyday.
About a week ago, just for one day, I felt like I wasn't addicted to it anymore. Just one day. Then I would continue to smoke more and more heavily for the rest of the week. The addiction came back strong after the first day.
I've been planning on not smoking for this entire month of May.
Lately you've been posting these videos at times when I really need to hear them.
I woke up feeling so depressed today. Just started crying again as I'm typing this.
As I was watching this video I couldn't stop thinking about how much I just want to buy more. To just give in.
It's tough cause I know that if I were to smoke right now, I'd feel better at least temporarily.
I've always had trouble with letting go of things I'm attached to even if they're destructive.
I feel really proud of you and I'm extremely grateful to have stumbled on your channel. I hope things keep moving forward for you.
Good luck my friend
You cracked me up at the end. "it could be tomorrow, my mood's swingin like a mother, it's ridiculous" cuts out :)
Lol it’s truly how I feel. Basket case. Ok one minute and feeling totally overwhelmed and hopeless the next. Early sobriety is crazy that way. My brain chemistry is all off.
I cant drink however i relate on the feelings. We ll have to live with this sense of melancholy and sadness. Thats that. Dont drink again. Ur an insiration and give hope to many. Hold on.
I was in a similar spot with drinking, not quite to that extent probably, but too much nonetheless. I too didn't see it as a problem for awhile, and even as I realized and was aware it was being used more for self medicating, I didn't care. It was helping me feel better. But I did slowly realize that it was affecting my relationship with my kids and also my responsibilities. It was reason enough to try and stop, but same thing for me, once you stop you realize what you truly need to address and take care of. It's definitely a struggle, and I myself still try not to turn back to it. But it is a daily battle.
16 days is definitely something to be proud of Noah. Keep with it. ❤
It took a long time for my sobriety-depression to subside. A couple months for alcohol and meth, and close to a year for benzos, and just over a year for heroin. To me it felt like those specific substances were the only thing to make me feel better, relevant to how long the depression lasted. Almost like I'd crave those things badly for that amount of time before i think the depression stopped. Keep truckin brother! It gets better, despite those hard days when it feels like you'll never be "normal." Much love man!
Edit - that mourning process, or "goodbye" can feel like the death of a close friend, because for a long time, those chemicals were our close friends.
1 Trillion Views speaking my language! Thank you for sharing with us.
bignoknow - my pleasure brother!
@@1trillionviews516 how long does it take to get rid of the depression??😢😢
Same thing happened to my son after abruptly stopping his SSRI. Love your videos Noah.
I watched your video and it made feel great to hear another male express his emotions fluidly
To be strong🙏🙏
Great video Noah. I was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer stage 4. I first got hooked on my pain pills. I kicked those, then proceeded to chase any high I could get and I rediscovered alcohol. I was never much of a drinker. I started to drink everyday. It was great. I felt better. With that I lost interest in much else. I have pretty much threw my contracting business away. I started not drinking 19 days ago. I started going to a 12 step program. I made it 4 days before I drank again. There have been days where I have held off all day only to start drinking after a late meeting. I can't do this. Thre depression is real. I don't have a lot of time left and I need to live my best life right now. Thanks again for this video. Good luck for you buddy.
Hey how are you gettin on now Tim sending love ❤️
Thank You
Thanks man
Thank you
I am two days sober. I'm so worn out (mentally and physically) from oscillating between swearing off weed and alcohol only to use again in a matter of days. My cycle is around 30 days. I think I'm going to try going to NA meetings again. To EVERONE out there - hang in there, its going to be ok.
faaawwwkkk 3 weeks in and I feel like crap. Mentally im in such a bad mood it just ruins my day...I hope it does get better. I just feel so low, and stupid and lonely and under accomplished. all the reasons I drank and could have cared less. felt easier not to give a shit. but becomes very hard to live like that so i feel like im in limbo, glad im not drunk but not excited about being sober...damned if I do and damned if I dont. this better lift soon. I hope.
Hang in there, rewards will be so worth it.
I just got my 4month chip last week and have been feeling great... until this week. I've hit a huge wall in my serenity, hoping to just hold on until it passes.
I'm dule diagnosed and was once sober for a year. that was back in 2013 to 2014. I'm now 6 days clean and I am just struggling to walk and do everyday things. and cigarettes I smoke like every 20 minutes. I'm praying things get a little better by day 30.
I'm on day 6. Last few years I've become an isolation drinker. I'd get my shit done then go home get hammered. Being round men/women period is just a bitch since 35. I'm 43
I've been diagnosed with a bunch of weird physical esophagus issues, and used to smoke and drink HEAVILY. I just had another upper endoscopy and colonoscopy today, they had to stretch out a few strictures in my esophagus I guess, and I will always wonder: is it from past smoking/drinking, or is it a genetic thing (digestive issues run down both sides of my families)
Either way, I've read a few things online about people who can't even eat solid foods any more because if their drinking, whether it damaged their pancreas, liver, esophagus, stomach, intestines... It's scary to see what that stuff can do! I still have a drink or two now and then, and want to give it up completely, but like that last 1/4 pill of klonopin video you made a while back, it's been a "fail safe crutch" or a "safety net just in case", whatever you'd like to call it. I STILL get people who call me alcoholic, even though I've given up a LOT of the drinking! I'm labeled forever, and even THAT can be depressing ("If everyone thinks I am, why not live up to their expectations?!") NOT a good Idea to slip into that frame of mind (as I have before and had to dig back out of that mess too) Kudos to all of you who swear it off for life, or at least ONE MORE DAY, hour, minute... Thank you Noah for making this video, and lets hope this channel can stay open!!!
You explained this exactly how it was explained to me in treatment. Screw TH-cam.
Will you consider doing a video on how you handle cravings?
Absolutely. Haven’t had any yet but they will surely come.
Its a long process but it does get better over time. I have been sober 11 years and it just feels normal to me now. The program helped me in the first couple years but I drifted away 8 years ago.
Really cool intro bro;)
Noah. What is considered “binge drinking “ vs just drinking daily?
16 days sober. 👍👍👍. One day at a time. I think any addiction raises dopamine - even compulsive spending. Totally normal. It’s like a stage of mourning but this is a short stage. Meetings, meetings, meetings! You don’t have to say you will be sober tomorrow- just for today, you are sober. Take your meds!
Your channel makes me believe I can stay sober. Started documenting my journey. Maybe someday I'll work with you. I'm a musician and writer.
drank basically every day for last five years. today i am 6 days sober. the anger and mood swings are crazy. trying to hold on, thanks for the vid
How can I message you?
how do u cope when it feels worse to be sober?
Noah, give your anxiety and depression to Jesus. Ask Him to carry the burden for you. Fight the power of darkness with the power of Light.
I am with in #10 days of my sobriety and I understand what u mean about the honeymoon phase and I believe my support team will help me in my time of need, Allah has never let me down an and everyone I know hates me but that's not important at all now.
I felt great 1 month sober tbh..No depression, slept well etc.Mind you I was exercising right through it..Now I feel like I'm back to square one following relapse :-/ You are right though the drink stops working in the same way as u get older I found..
Day 2… I’m sweating like crazy… but I’m decided to go through it.
Noah, have you tried CBD for anxiety & depression ?
No. Don’t like the idea but I hear good things.
Relapsed after 10 weeks!
Alcohol makes me feel things way more intensely and I become way more open to receiving from people.
So the biggest obstacle for me to abstinance is : resistance to boredom and feeling things more intensely( i guess the dopamine thing). So after 10 weeks of abstinance; I took 3 drinks.
So yeah; I guess alcohol does really calm my boredom!
ive been through this before but only in a rehabilitation environment. right now im trying it at home and its day 8.. feels totally different at home and harder. my head is so afraid of the realism that it is. fucking depression and anxiety man seriously.
I've never been an alcoholic but recently I was drinking beer everyday + some liquor after dinner. Even if this behaviour was totally responsible and it never affected my work, my relations etc. I decided anyway to suspend it because I didn't like the fact that it happened every single day with no exception. Now it's 17 days I do not drink anything but water, I already lost 4 Kg and I feel much better and productive than before. I didn't' completely quit, but I will drink in the future only when I will go to visit my family, that's the condition. Meaning I will drink couple of beers and 3-4 shots at dinner only once or twice per month.
Day 3
Early sobriety in the rooms will drive you mental....stay away from 12 step fellowships from one alcohol abuser to another! Find your own way just like all the ppl who left and you now wonder where they are my friend.
Ironically the worst full of themselves ego-maniac driven narcissists I've met in those rooms. lol
All your ace are belong to us
Exactly I feel a lot better out of the rooms, I’m not powerless as they say I am. This guy in this video made his choice to pick up alcohol!! It’s not down to an imaginary disease, take responsibility for your lapse, you chose to drink and you can choose not too drink it’s that simple. I’m saying sobriety is easy it’s tough going but we have to mature and grow up take responsibility and learn that it really comes down to choice....the rooms want you to remain incurable so you keep putting the pound 💷 note in that basket.
Indeed, later in my recovery I realized it is all a matter of choice, every little thing we do in life. Also like you've said the whole powerless subject boils down to keep someone in perpetual fear/shame to sustain them in a state of surrender which makes them slaves to the program (keep coming back lol) and to top it off relapses when they do occur are even worse hence the shame game continues. Although there are many good souls in AA/NA. I've witnessed some frightening aspects as well, from financial predators ripping down on their luck newcomers off to people flipping out cos they were denied their psych-meds by their almighty guru sponsors. The best advice I can give people searching for help is get an independent professional counselor/psychologist. Independent meaning not affiliated to the cult of AA cos a lot of these goofballs work in the recovery industry. the 12d step commands them to.
My first comment disappeared so I'll post it again:
"Yes, stay away from there! Try rational recovery, smart, harm reduction perhaps in combination with meds like naltrexone, campral, ... or secular groups like SOS sobriety. Cos I have to agree for me AA and NA did nothing, it's a waste of time and a scam. I found it rather cultish and sometimes when I went to meetings I wanted to obliterate myself with drink/drugs afterwards. Talking about depression... man those rooms were nothing but depressing, guild, fear and shame tripping. Don't get me wrong for some people it does work, whatever works works right? Nevertheless even though I'm a functioning addict I'm way too sober, individualistic & realistic for this higher power, collective kumbaya group nonsense. I've been in the rooms for over a year to finally conclude it is definitely not my cup of tea. I mean people were sharing stuff like how terrified they were to relapse and die cos they needed a dentist anesthetic, WTF?! lol! I've better things to do than to clap my hands and listen to moronic shit like this. Also read the true history about AA, a real eye-opener check out the orange papers dot info website."
Is it normal to feel depressed 630 days after sobriety?
I been sober two months now
Are you still sober
Relapsed after a month off weekend drug and booze sessions for 35 years..Result back to square one..Gulit, Hangover, depression and anxiety..Not to forget shame and wasted money.. Deterimined to go back on the wagon now and stick to it..
Anyone need a sponsor I know I do...I'm serious about getting sober but I'd feel better talking to someone that's going through what I am😥
I have heard they are giving out strikes like candy on Hallowe’en.
pyroluria. b6 and zinc. stop caffiene.
Pieter Crous what is the first thing you mentioned? How much do you take and how often? How fast do you feel better?
On the third day I started feeling so much better. I took 200mg B6, 30mg Zinc picolate. Im experimenting on splitting the dossage. 100mg B6, 20mg zinc picolate, 50mg mag chloride 2x a day at the moment.
Pieter Crous why are you going to split the dosage? And can I find these over the counter to try?
Jip you can find it at your local health shop or online store. I split it coz I want sustained release throughout my day
So half I'm morning and half at lunch? Sorry....
I’m at almost 1 year of sobriety and the depression now is the worst it’s been
I’m in the same boat but nearly 8 months in. I know alcohol is not the solution and am more determined then ever to stabilize my brain
Well shit bois, goin through it pretty hard. A little scary tbh. We’re all going to be alright though.
Have you tried medical cannabis? I know its trading one habit for another.. but it's better than the recovery/relapse cycle you seem to be stuck in.
Trading one substance for another is not for me.
I’m 35 days in
It's after midnight so I'm saying I'm on day 6 :)
Day 2 I felt like absolute dog shit. Now i feel better, but I'm bored beyond belief
BlackSheep Oh, I totally hear you about the boredom. Sometimes I feel like it’s the worst part of it all. I’m on day 20 and it’s totally up and down. Like , right now as I’m writing this, I kinda feel like crap 🙁..
@@hollowman1836 I failed and went back to drinking full time. I hope things work out for you. Good luck
BlackSheep 17 I’m a little jealous but I’ve decided to keep going. We’ll see what happens😳
Do you expect to ever drink alcohol again?
That’s the prayer but I’m focused on today.
@@bignoknow I'm on 5 days sober it's really hard and I just feel like crying. I don't want to give in though. I know it'll get better. I made it 3 weeks before and then I made the mistake of thinking I could have just a glass of wine. I can't! Thank you for sharing it's nice to know somebody else is going through the depression and it's normal.
12 days sober .
Life is a odd sobering substance. And god is the dealer.
Mindfulness,Jon Kabat Zinn.look it up do yourself a favour,change your life.
Going thru this right now only almost 5 days sober. Finding it incredibly hard just to fall asleep at this time. It's like it will just never happen! Gone an entire 4 nights with little or no sleep because I can't shut my mind down from worry, fear, anxiety.
Get support. It’s worth it.
You think that nothing feels better than getting drunk.
You think that there is a good life waiting for you if you just don't drink.
THAT is the obsession.
Ughhh, 1st?
OOF
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Hi Noah I hope you're still doing well. I'm 31 days sober and cry everyday it's so painful. I pray it gets better soon.
You can't stay sober