"Replacement Theology?" A Response to John MacArthur
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Amen brother Jonah. Been preaching the same thing to many pro-Israel, pro-Jewish Christians that refuse to consider the Scripture and even Jesus' own words. All true believers are welcome in the Church. Now we just need the same truth preached about Catholicism. They are just as lost as unbelieving Jews. Many Protestant Christians are now as well. All Christians must stay in the Word and reject the false teachings of the Church.
Everything that can be shaken.
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The error is on what is so special with those that 'say they are Jews' or 'called Israel' now. Something those that are engaged in should repent from.
Thank you brother, Jonah. Excellent presentation. 'That which is flesh is flesh and that which is Spirit is Spirit.' Dispensationalism is guilty of re-establishing the dividing wall, which was pulled down long ago. I appreciate John Macarthur, but his views on eschatology are very strongly held, and as you have shown, damaging to true evangelism. People often pray, 'Your people Israel.' By this they mean all Jews - whether they are born again or not.
Grace and peace be with you brother.
7:50 Jesus didn't come to establish literal kingdom... What about Acts 1:6-7? Tje time is coming when kingdom of/for Israel will be established with Jeshua as the King on David's throne.
JM does teach everyone comes to Christ by grace alone through faith alone.
Nah… calvinist
Your response would not be news or an enlightening word to pastor Macarthur. You may, if you have not already, want to read non dispensationalists such as Ryle and Spurgeon on this matter. Also, your answer does not answer Acts 1:6&7, coming after Luke….”what MacArthur fails to understand miserably”….wow.
Well said. This topic has gained new life since October 7. There is no such thing as replacement theology because there is no Jew and Gentile anymore. Those who are in Christ are one new man. This perhaps Dr. MacArthur's one great inconsistency. Thank you for this Word.
I think MacArthur actually has quite a few other belief problems. He's not a bad guy and I grew up listening to him on the radio, so I don't hate the guy or anything of the sort, but he seems to be an ardent cessationist and believes that any manifestations of those spiritual gifts today are "strange fire" and a sign of something evil or misguided. He has even held a Strange Fire conference so that he and others aligned with him can talk about how bad it all is. He said in 1993 that "America is a post Christian nation and beyond redemption". So he gave up on the country 30 years ago, I'm not sure why he bothered fighting back against the communist state of California during covid. We see nothing in the Bible saying that any nation is beyond redemption or revival until God is actually judging and punishing them. Jonah and Ninevah is a great example.
The reason you guys reject basic dispensations is because you are still confused on what we are talking about with basic dispensations. And this is made rather obvious by the objections and scripture you point to for your arguments, you think you are things we disagree on when you are actually pointingg to things we already are in full agreement on. But because you are confused on what basic dispensations are and mean you don't yet realize we are already in full agreement on most of your points.
We already full agree that there is no difference between Jew and Gentiles in Christ. We already fully agree that those in Christ are the promised seed of Abraham by faith. We already fully agree the the Kingdom of God is already here and within us. We are in full agreement on all these points and several other. This is dispensationalism 101.
When we talk about God fulfilling His promises to the nation of Israel we are NOT talking about chruch age events. We are talking about events that take place AFTER the church age. IF some of you are A or post mill I understand fully why that does not work for you, but when you bring up these specific points in this context its a dead giveaway that you do not understand what basic dispensationalsim is and means. Your not realizing we already agree on those points. If you understood what basic dispensationalism means you would not point to those verses as your objections. You would know we agree on them already. You would be pointing to completely different verses and points make your arguments.
Virtually every single prophet in both the OT and NT, including Jesus himself makes clear there is a nation of Israel living in the Holy Land just before the 2nd coming and they are not yet right with God and still lost and in sin.
You guys position leaves you with no explanation whatsoever for entire sections of the Bible because there is no way to explain them in your theology without just taking complete and total gibberish. If you think I'm wrong then tell me when Ezekiel 36-37 was fulfilled, tell me when Ezekiel 38-39 was fulfilled. Tell me when Zechariah 8 was fulfilled. Tell me when Zechariah 14 was fulfilled. Tell me when Ezekiel 40-48 were fulfilled. There are about 30 other full chapters on this I could point to that your theology cannot even begin to explain.
This was one of the 2 key reasons I finally began to understand and accept basic dispensations after struggling with this issue my first few years as a Bible student and believer. If you don't believe in basic dispensations and God fulling His STILL UNFULFILLED promises to the nation of Israel. There are considerable portions and sections of the Bible you simply have no way to explain or fit in with your theology.
I have studied and debted this with untold thousands of people over the last decade. I have never heard one single time an even remotely Biblical explanation for this, 99.9% pf the time people just refuse to even talk about these chapters of the Bible and want the conversations and debate to end because they know they have no explanations for them at all.
@@ExperienceEric Great Reply. Actually, you are a very unusual Dispensationalist because you are admitting to the apostate situation that the Bible seems to tell us the modern nation state of Israel will be in before Jesus' 2nd coming. Most dispensationalists seem to ignore Daniel 11, it's clear from that chapter there that the Antichrist will be reigning out of Jerusalem. Isaiah 65 is also clear that they are being replaced as Gods chosen people but that in the millenial kingdom/new heaven & earth God will bring joy back to Jerusalem. Many of the OT prophecies about end times Israel have not been fulfilled.
But what's even more interesting is that many of them dont even seem to apply to the Modern Nation-state of Israel. How is Israel a "land of unwalled villages" where "my people dwell safely"? (Ez. 38) This is just one example. If Israel is almost completely non Christian and will be ruled by the Antichrist, what does that say for the between times? I think dispensationalism does a terrible job of explaining these problems and many more, it seems to be largely comprised of people who ignore a ton of the OT prophecies (and even NT prophecies) about Israel. You seem to be a very unusual exception.
@@ExperienceEric The problem is that no one will be saved apart from the Church. Men are born in Adam, dead in sin and transgression. Salvation is the receiving of God's LIFE through the indwelling Holy Spirit. Apart from being born again, born of the Spirit of God, Israel remains in Adam.
In order to be IN CHRIST, a person must, through faith, be baptized into the death of Christ, and raise up to new life by the Spirit. In other words, a person must be united with Christ by the Spirit through faith. This means becoming part of Christ's body, the Church. Jesus specifically told Nicodemus that in order to see the Kingdom, he MUST be born again.
Dispensationalists teach that, no, Israel does not need to be baptized into the death of Christ. They don't need to be born again. That is only for the Church in this so-called dispensation. They don't need to be made new creations in Him. After the Body of Christ is supposedly raptured, with the Holy Spirit supposedly taken out of the way, Israel will somehow be saved without being part of the His body, without the Spirit.
There is no way to the Father but through Christ, by being IN HIM. In John 14-17, Jesus made it clear that He would send the Spirit and that the disciples, and all who believe would be in Him and in the Father and that He and the Father would be in them. They would become dwelling places in the Father's House, in the Temple of Christ's Body, the Church.
Paul said that the Church was God's eternal purpose from the foundation of the world. In Revelation we see the New Jerusalem, as a city with foundations. I submit that this is the exact city that Abraham looked for, a "city with foundations, whose builder and maker is God. The foundations of the city have written on them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb, clearly the Church. The gates of the city have written on them the names of the twelve tribes of Israel. It is CLEAR that the Bride, the holy city is made us of BOTH Israel and the Church.
It is ALSO clear, that that city exists NOW. According to the writer of Hebrews 11 and 12, the Old Testament saints received a good report by faith, but none received what was promised. Why?
Because God has some BETTER THING for us, that they without us would NOT be made perfect. We have come to "the church of the firstborn whose names are written in have," and to "the spirits of just men made perfect."
There's a reason Paul says that the Church is the culmination of the ages, that it was God's eternal purpose from the foundation of the world, and that in the dispensation of the fullness of times, God is bringing ALL things in heaven and earth, both Jew and Gentile, together in Him. There is no future dispensation where Israel will be saved apart from the Church.
God did NOT set Israel side. Paul doesn't say that a hardening in FULL has happened to Israel, but a hardening in PART. He said, quoting Isaiah, that Though they be as the sands of the seashore ONLY A REMNANT WILL BE SAVED. Not all who are descended from Israel are Israel. There is a believing REMNANT of Israel that are SEPARATE from the nation, and it is the REMNANT that will be saved. This is the "all Israel" that will be saved. The text does not say "And THEN all Israel will be saved. It says, "And in this way all Israel will be saved." What way?
By hardening a PART of Israel and grafting Gentiles INTO the believing remnant. Is God finished with Israel? No, God forbid! The broken of branches WILL be grafted back in. Into what? Into believing Israel, the SAME Israel into which Gentiles are ingrafted. One Body, one Bride, one Temple, one people.
The Bible is NOT dispensational. It is covenantal.
God promised Lamech that with seed would bring rest from our toil and labors and named his son, Noah, which means "rest."
God promised Noah through a COVENANT that He would never flood the earth with a flood and gave a sign in the sky, a remembrance.
God promised Abraham through a COVENANT that his Seed would be given a land and that that Seed would bless the nations. He was promised both an earthly seed and a heavenly seed.
God gave Abraham's earthly seed a covenant of LAW, stating that if they failed to keep that covenant, they would fail to be His chosen people.
How many of Abraham's fleshly seed kept the Covenant? ONLY ONE, Jesus Christ.
That is why Paul says that Jesus is the ONLY SEED to whom the promise was made and why it is only by being IN CHRIST that anyone can receive what was promised.
I'm sure you know that a covenant is a "will and testament," and that covenants cannot be ratified until the death of the one who made them. It is not put into effect until the Testator dies.
I'm sure you also know that the Sinai Covenant was a marriage covenant and that marriage covenants are only in effect until the husband dies.
Jesus is the Testator and He is the Husband. When He died, He NULLIFIED that covenant made with Israel at Sinai, AND at the same time, ratified ALL of the covenants of promise made to the patriarchs.
In other words, the PROMISED inheritance comes ONLY through Him. ALL of God's promises, INCLUDING those given to Abraham, are Yes, and Amen in Christ.
This is why Paul says,
"Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And TO THY SEED WHICH IS CHRIST.
And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise."
Gal 3:16, 29
So the promise of rest given to Lamech was fulfilled in Christ.
The promise given to Noah of salvation from wrath was fulfilled in Christ.
The promise to Abraham of a land and a seed was fulfilled in Christ.
The promise to David of a kingdom and a King was fulfilled in Christ. Jesus came preaching the Gospel of the kingdom, and Paul and the apostles taught how to ENTER that Kingdom. In fact, Jesus ALSO taught how to enter it also. He said to Nicodemus, that NO ONE can see the Kingdom, unless they are born again, born of God by the Holy Spirit. It is enter by faith, through the new birth.
Abraham was promised both an earthly seed like the sands of the seashore, and a heavenly seed like the multitude of stars.
Again, Paul tells us in Romans, quoting the Old Testament, "Though they be like the sand of the seashore ONLY A REMNANT WILL BE SAVED.
In other words, only a REMNANT of Abraham's EARTHLY seed, Israel, will be saved.
That remnant that ARE saved, become as the stars of the universe.
That REMNANT are those in Christ by faith, who have been born of God, raised up with Christ in heavenly places (Eph 2:6).
In Ephesians, Paul ALSO shows that the BLESSINGS that Abraham's heavenly seed inherit are through the Holy Spirit.
Again,
"And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise."
Gal 3:16, 29
So, Scripture is not dispensational. God made promises to Adam, to Noah and his family, to Abraham and David and the nation of Israel throughout history, and because they believed the promises of God, they were credited with righteousness UNTIL the coming of the Seed who would fulfill those promises.
In Hebrews 11, God gives a list of those made righteous by faith and makes it clear that Abraham was not looking for an EARTHLY city, but one with FOUNDATIONS, whose builder and maker is God.
Again, that city with FOUNDATIONS is found in Revelation 21 and 22. That city has twelve foundation with the names of the twelve apostles written one them and twelve gates with the names of the twelve tribes of Israel.
In other words, the Church and Israel are one Bride.
And that is why in Hebrews 11, it says that none of the Old Testament saints received the promise, because God had some BETTER THING for us, that THEY WITHOUT us should NOT be made perfect."
In other words, Israel and the Church NOT distinct, as Dispensationalism teaches, but will be saved in ONE body, as ONE Bride, One Temple, ONE city, ONE people of God, united in Christ but faith, through the Holy Spirit.
The Old Testament is the history of God's working with mankind. God does NOT work through a SYSTEM of salvation. He works through RELATIONSHIPS based on FAITH, saving all by His grace.
The problem that Dispensationalism has with Ezekiel is the fact that the sacrifices offered in this supposed millennial temple are actually made to atone for sin. Huh? Wasn't Jesus the final sacrifice that bought atonement? Yes He, was.
The man without the spirit cannot understand spiritual things. Israel, void of the Spirit was given "pictures" of heavenly things in PHYSICAL type and shadow in order that they might understand the things of God. Paul makes it clear that the things that can be seen are temporary, but the things that are not seen are eternal. The PHYSICAL THINGS shown to Israel are types and shadows of eternal things. The pattern given to Moses on the Mount was one such shadow. The LITERAL, PHYSICAL temple that stood in Jerusalem was nothing but a SHADOW. The REALITY IS CHRIST. If there is a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem, it will not be God's Temple. God doesn't live in Temples made with hands. God has made His home in His people.
Dispensationalism is the ultimate replacement theology, replacing the true Seed of Abraham with a fleshly people and the true Temple of God with a physical structure. John tells us that there is no temple in the holy city, for God and the Lamb are the Temple of it.
Paul made it clear that HIS GOSPEL was the hope of Israel. His Gospel is a righteousness that is by faith from first to last, to all who believe, to the Jew first and then the Gentile.
that is what Caucasians used to mess up the Gospel of Yahusha
The damaging effect is, God said He will never forget Israel or the Jewish people. God can not lie ever. Once He says something it is settled.
Only Dispensationalists say stuff like this. It’s so silly. Saying ‘God will never forget Israel’ is like saying God will never forget Jesus. Jesus fulfills Israel. If you are not reborn in Christ, you are not saved. Bottom line full stop.
The problem is that the jews have rejected God.
@@BecamePneumaEspecially since the Bible clearly states there were multiple covenants.
@@fij715 Amen brother. Keep the faith. Jesus fulfills the old covenant with the new. All things through Jesus. He is the alpha and omega. The universe was created and made through him. God destroyed the old covenant in 70 AD. the Book of Revelation tells us this. God Bless.
@@BecamePneuma No the jews destroyed the old covenant. Their actions lead to the need of the Son of Man’s presence. And some jews converted and they are the remnant of israel. When the New Testament says that salvation comes from the jews it refers to that.
The vast majority of them still reject Christ and follow a religion of evil.
There is no replacement theology. God preached the Gospel to Abraham 430 years before the Law. Israel never replaced the Church. And, natural Israel was utterly destroyed by God in 70AD. The nation in the middle east today is not Israel.
history 101
@@busker153 That is simply fiction. Jews fled with the destruction in 70 AD. They were not wiped out. Secondly it is an aberrant error to say Christ returned in 70 AD ...that much is clear to anyone who looks into these things. Christ has still yet to return and he will return to the mount of Olives....Acts 1.
@@truthblitz7 Very few Jews fled. All Christians escaped. The temple was destroyed, and Jerusalem was taken.
I never said Christ returned in 70 AD. Only a fool would say that, and only a fool would think I said that.
Jesus will NOT return to the Mount of Olives. Jesus will never set foot on this old earth again. When He returns we meet Him in the air.
@@busker153That is not to be believed. The NT alteady makes it clear thousands of Jews lived and worked outside Israel. That increased dramatically with the destruction of the temple. Jesus WILL return to the mount of olives as Acts 1 makes clear and as Jesus himself stated : Matthew 23v39
@@truthblitz7 Actually, what you claimed is not to be believed. Here is the evidence:
"For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord."
Matthew 23:39
As for your assertion that the first chapter of Acts says Jesus will return, "to the mount of Olives," you need to be careful. He was on the mount of Olives, to be sure. He ascended up to heaven from that location, to be sure. But the angel specified that He would return, "in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven."
The mode of His return is specified. As for my assertion that Jesus will not set foot on this earth ever again, let's let Paul's inspired words rule the day:
"For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
"Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
We will be caught up to meet the Lord, "in the air." Did you get that? In the air means no boots on the ground. Then, he says, "and so shall we ever be with the Lord." Jesus never sets food on this old earth ever again.
You should forsake your dispensational heresy and believe what the Bible actually says.
Comfort yourself with these words, and forsake the false eschatology Scofield popularized. Follow God's Word; not the traditions of men, like the Pharisees, Sadducees, scribes, and other religious leaders of Jesus' day. You know, the ones who killed Him?
I agree with the commentators who dared to disagree. The Kingdom thar John MacArthur refers to is Revelation 20, which is called "The Millenial Reign of Christ". The whole debate comes down to this - the Catholics teach the prophecies - partucularly in Revelation are allegorical, symbolic, meant to convey a "spiritual" - but not literal - trutb. Those who disagree, as I do, tend to take God at His Wotd. The Church teaches that we are presently in the Millenial Reign of Christ with Him rulimg through the Church. Does it seem like in the world we live in that this is The Millenial Reign of Christ? But if you conclude it's all "symbolic" and "spiritual", then Yes this is it. Seems a little disappointing to me. On Replacement Theology - and yes, that's what it is - the Church is the "new" Israel replacing Old Testament Israel - what gets lost in most arguments is the distinction between national Israel and Israel in the sense of being God's people. Are the Covenental Promises to national Israel - specifically related to rhe Land - still in effect. Most who advocate your viewpoint conclude No, then insult anyone who disagrees aa being a Christian Zionist (all the while advocating Christian Palestiniasm). The conclusion that God's Covenental Promises to national Israel no longer apply have taken Replacement Theology to cover both spiritual aspects and National aspects of Israel. This is a mistake that has resulted in dismissing countless promises throughout Scripture and resulta in people concluding that the resurrection of national Israel after nearly 2,000 years of death is norhing. Hmmm. It is at least a truly historic event, unparalelled in human history, that should at least given a secondary review before dismissing it out of hand.
But this whole thing comea down to this: the Church teaches that it's all symbolc. Once you conclude that, you can make Scripture mean anything you want
Clear precise response. Loved it. JM not wanting to offend may make him feel better but is it biblical? "You're out and I'm in" is mild compared to Jesus "But the sons of the kingdom will be cast out into outer darkness. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂ridiculous
What is most remarkable is all you guys who say you reject dispensations don't even realize you already believe in several dispensations. If you understand there is a difference between the Old Covenant and the New covenant then those are 2 different dispensations you already believe in. If you believe in a different between the OT law period in Israel and the current church age those are 2 more different dispensations you already believe in. After many years of discussing and debating this topic I can say without fail that those who reject basic dispensations simply do not understand what the word means and what its really about. You would all say you do but I have NEVER spoken to or debated a single non dispensationalist who understood what the term actually is and means. The entire argument against it is based on things we are not even talking about and things you don't realize we already fully agree on.
Most if you think dispensations means "Pre trib rapture". ITS DOES NOT. Most dispensationalists are pre trib BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT THE WORD DISPENSATIONALISM MEANS.
You guys also do not realize that we fully agree all those in Christ are the seed of Abraham by faith, that all those IN CHRIST are one body, both Jew and Gentile. You all think we disagree on this but in fact that is dispensationalism 101. When we are talking about God not being done with Israel and fulfilling his promises to Israel we are not talking about chruch age events. We are talking about events that happen in the 1000 year Kingdom as described in Revelation, Ezekiel, Zechariah, Zephaniah, Isaiah and the other prophets.
I like MacArthur but this is where we part ways. I can’t get on board with dispensationalism. I think it’s an error and an incorrect way to interpret the scriptures.
You’re mistaken!
@@originalwilliams4011 dispensationalists are mistaken. It’s terrible theology.
Hi John. Thank you for your passion.
“Replacement Theology” is the belief that the Church has replaced the Jews. Luther got that wrong, so did the church in Rome. MacArthur is arguing against that.
You are correct that the early church was heavily Jewish, but the numbers of gentiles soon grew larger. Acts 1 explains that two became one. Jews who accepted Christ are a new creation - they are Christian.
There are 15 million Jews in the world. They missed their Messiah the first time. Paul explains in Romans that he preaches to the gentiles to make the Jews jealous for what they missed. His heart continued to beat for his fellow Jews. We must continue to witness to them in love.
I’m confident that MacArthur has evangelized Jews with the same Gospel message as he shares with gentiles.
Scripture is clear. There WILL be a coming Kingdom after Christ returns. How else will God fulfill the promises that He made to Israel?
Great points. Great analysis.
Thank you, Father!
Yes it is a misnomer to call it "replacement theology. "
John Mc Arthur's view on this is similar to those of the majority jews of Jesus' time. All they want to see is physical.
Both teachers heavily relied on straw man arguments, despite the comment at the end of the video. It's frustrating that most videos misrepresent the other side on this issue.
Man, this video is so good. I’ve been preaching this for about five years or so now and I couldn’t have done better. I consider myself a post- TRIB rapture non-dispensation historic premillennialist, not a modern dispensational premillennialist, but I’m totally fine with post millennial and amillennialism.
What’s interesting is the dispensationalists butchered Daniel chapter 9 verses 26 and 27. These are the very verses that should be being used to reach the Jewish people Because it proves to them the Messiah had to come after the second temple was built and die before the second temple was destroyed and it gives an answer to them as to why God has not allowed them to go back to their animal sacrifices. The price is already been paid forever by Jesus. God bless brother it’s very good to see that others see the truths that exist in God‘s word.
Thank you for the kind words my friend. I could not agree more. May God bless you!
@@merecatholicity your welcome.
@@merecatholicity do you mind if I mirror your video on my PRE TRIB RAPTURE: TRUE OR FALSE channel? That way I don’t get all the blame. LOL.
@@sacredcowtipper1378 No problem. If you quote my video or reference it, however. I'd appreciate credit. :)
@@merecatholicity Sounds good. Do you have any weird beliefs? You are totally sound on this subject. Mind if I ask what denomination you are? You stated MacArthur had some other false beliefs and I agree with that. By the way, this is my other channel. I have a few videos on this channel I think you will enjoy. The last video is satire about predicting the timing of a pre-trib rapture. I wish I had more time to do more videos. TH-cam shadowbanned me on this channel so for it to be seen we have to send links out.
A point you miss is that John McArthur's approach to evangelism of a Jew would be very odd in any other context. The gospel message is "you are in rebellion against God, repent and trust in Jesus who has done everything necessary to put you right with God". Having got through that THEN one can draw to someone's attention other cultural elements.
But that is the gospel. All are in rebellion to God until they become a member of the body of Christ, regardless of the context - the message doesn't change. Christ has come, and that is the message if you're a Jew, a gentile, or an alien.... it's still the message!
you are right, Zechariah explains how at the end only 1 third will remain at the end and then all of those will believe, cry out & be saved
Thank you for a well expressed refutation of Dispensationalism’s distortions.
You're mixing dispensations, which is causing your confusion. The first chapters of Acts is entirely Jewish. God will deal with Israel and the Jews again during the tribulation.
Jesus Christ NEVER said anything good about HIS KINGDOM (aka Christianity):
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Matthew 13:41-43
The Son of man will send forth his angels, and they will collect out ** FROM HIS KINGDOM ** all things that cause stumbling and persons who are doing lawlessness, 42 and they will pitch them into the fiery furnace. There is where [their] weeping and the gnashing of [their] teeth will be. 43 At that time the righteous ones will shine as brightly as the sun in ** THE KINGDOM OF THEIR FATHER ** Let him that has ears listen.
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There will be no weeds in God's Kingdom:
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Revelation 21:27
But anything not sacred and anyone that carries on a disgusting thing and a lie will in no way enter into it;
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I just watched a clip on the from John MacArthur as he is my usual go to and saw your thumb nail and clicked on it to keep an open mind to hear a different opinion. I’m glad I did, it’s certainly given my more to think about 🙏
Be careful, that’s how it starts you have the truth then you lessen to a false teaching then before you know it, you start believing it. Now someone else is going to come around and they you what you now believe is also false. You have the truth with John Mc, stick with the truth. Unbelievable!!!
@@flamingooneleg77right. People had the truth.... Then they started to listen to HERETICS like Darby and Schofield... and all the trash that followed with it.
Nope. Sorry bro. If you're pointing to Luke 17, you have to run the gamut of the Lukan context as this section contrasts Luke 21 before you jump to the big picture. Luke takes Matthew's phrase "one taken the other left" (24:40) to spell out the difference between the church's destiny (Lk 17) and Israel's (Lk 21). Compare the timing, events, and instructions of those sections and you will have the dispensational picture. And your comment 13:33 is a common trope that grossly misrepresents the dispensational position; you have conflated salvation with calling, which Paul straightens out in Romans 9-11. Before you slander a man of God with more years of ministry experience than you have years of life on this planet, I encourage you to dig deeper into where he is coming from first. I'm happy to have this debate with you if you're willing.
Matthew 3:9 - And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.
Your mistaking the kingdom of God for the Kingdom of heaven. the kingdom of God is spiritual .(The holy Spirit) The kingdom of heaven is physical ( the millennial reign of Christ) Plug this in it fits! . The bible says the kingdom of God dwelleth in you. It’s not Christs Physical Kingdom that dwells in us but his spiritual kingdom through the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. We are not baptized unto John’s baptism. Our baptism is not to make our way strait because the kingdom of heaven is at hand. You read in the book of Mathew if thy right hand offends thee cut it off or if thy right eye offends thee pluck it out it is better to have one hand than two to be cast into hell fire. Now if you think this applies to you then tell me where are all the one-eyed Christians or one-handed ones? don’t spiritualize this brother he is talking about swift judgment when he sets up his earthly kingdom. Need more proof? If thou say unto thy brother Raca thou shall be in danger of the council. WHAT COUNCIL? DONT, YOU DARE SPIRITUALISE THIS TO FIT YOUR OWN NARATIVE! But if thou say to thy brother thou fool, thou shall be in danger of hell fire. Swift judgement carried out by the Lord Jesus when he sets up rulers and councils to carry out his judgments when he sits on his throne in Jerusalem. This may apply to us in principal but when it is that specific it doesn’t apply to us doctrinally at all. It is talking about a different time period a different dispensation. Lastly the one scripture that proves we are before the thousand year reign of Christ is found in Psalm 132:11 The LORD hath sworn in truth unto David; he will not turn from it; Of the fruit of thy body will I set upon thy throne. This is a prophesy given to David that Christ will come from the seed of David and sit on his throne in Jerusalem If I were you I would not worry so much about what so and so says because the book has got you covered..
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This was very helpful. Thank you .
Dr. Macarthur is absolutely correct. Go back and study scripture young man!@
MacArthur is in conflict with the entire history of Christianity. That is a fact.
I pray that the Lord of Grace prepare your heart to receive his gift of revelation....
I ask in the name of our Lord and Saviour Yeshua Hamashiach
For I am the Lord your God, the Holy One of Israel, your Savior. I give Egypt as your ransom, Cush and Seba in exchange for you. Because you are precious in my eyes, and honored, and I love you, I give men in return for you, peoples in exchange for your life. Fear not, for I am with you; I will bring your offspring from the east, and from the west I will gather you. I will say to the north, Give up, and to the south, Do not withhold; bring my sons from afar and my daughters from the end of the earth, everyone who is called by my name, whom I created for my glory, whom I formed and made.” Bring out the people who are blind, yet have eyes, who are deaf, yet have ears!
Isaiah 43:3-8 ESV
“For you are a people holy to the Lord your God. The Lord your God has chosen you to be a people for his treasured possession, out of all the peoples who are on the face of the earth. It was not because you were more in number than any other people that the Lord set his love on you and chose you, for you were the fewest of all peoples, but it is because the Lord loves you and is keeping the oath that he swore to your fathers, that the Lord has brought you out with a mighty hand and redeemed you from the house of slavery, from the hand of Pharaoh king of Egypt. Know therefore that the Lord your God is God, the faithful God who keeps covenant and steadfast love with those who love him and keep his commandments, to a thousand generations,
Deuteronomy 7:6-9 ESV
“Behold, the days are coming, declares the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah, not like the covenant that I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, my covenant that they broke, though I was their husband, declares the Lord. For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the Lord: I will put my law within them, and I will write it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they shall be my people. And no longer shall each one teach his neighbor and each his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they shall all know me, from the least of them to the greatest, declares the Lord. For I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.” Thus says the Lord, who gives the sun for light by day and the fixed order of the moon and the stars for light by night, who stirs up the sea so that its waves roar- the Lord of hosts is his name: “If this fixed order departs from before me, declares the Lord, then shall the offspring of Israel cease from being a nation before me forever.” Thus says the Lord: “If the heavens above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth below can be explored, then I will cast off all the offspring of Israel for all that they have done, declares the Lord.”
Jeremiah 31:31-37 ESV
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unless a man be born again, he can not see the Kingdom of God (John 3:3)
Romans 11:25-27 For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. 26 And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written:
“The Deliverer will come out of Zion, And He will turn away ungodliness from Jacob; For *_THIS IS_* My covenant with them, when I take away their sins.”
When Jesus came the first time the Jews had already been in their land... they were looking for their Isaiah 9:6-7 leader, not their land....
The covenant was that their DELIVERER would come to TAKE AWAY their sins, (not to get them back into the land)
sad that John MacArthur does not realize that those who reject Jesus are of their father, the devil:
Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and came from God; nor have I come of Myself, but He sent Me. 43 Why do you not understand My speech? Because you are not able to listen to My word. 44 You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it. 45 But because I tell the truth, you do not believe Me. (John 8;42-25)
False. When did it say Jesus is the Only true Jew? That the Jews aren’t Jews anymore? Rev 2:9 explain the the verse . Romans 11 sums this up. Ezekiel 37 let’s you know God will get his “real”original people back and raise them up once the age of the gentiles is fulfilled. Your almost there my brother jus wanted to clarify
If Jesus was Black (burnished bronze) the replacement theology is turning him white
rev 1: 15 His feet were like bronze glowing in a furnace, and his voice was like the sound of rushing waters.
Songs of Solomon 1:5 black, job 30:30 black
Holocaust Jews (what happened to them being black) 🤡🤡
Romans 11:11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.
Romans 11:12 Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?
Romans 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Romans 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Romans 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
Romans 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
Romans 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God are irrevocable.
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Therefore, remember that formerly you-the Gentiles in the flesh, who are called “Uncircumcision” by the so-called “Circumcision,” which is performed in the flesh by human hands- remember that you were at that time without Christ, alienated from the citizenship of Israel, and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. But now in Christ Jesus you who formerly were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ. For He Himself is our peace, who made both groups one and broke down the dividing wall of the partition by abolishing in His flesh the enmity, the Law of commandments contained in ordinances, so that in Himself He might create the two into one new man, making peace, and might reconcile them both in one body to God through the cross, having in Himself put to death the enmity.
So, I say 'Amen!' to your quote in Romans 11 and I completely agree that, in the context, Paul is referring to ethnic Israel and sees a future revival and restoration of these physical descendants of Abraham. But keep this passage within the context of what he has been arguing since chapter 4. It is significant that Paul mentions Jacob and Esau, two men with identical ethnicity, and yet only one is part of Israel and one is a Gentile. (See Genesis 36) Jonah's argument isn't that ethnic Israel can no longer be a part of the church (the Israel of God - Galatians 6:16), but rather that the promises are 'yes and amen' only in Christ. (2 Corinthians 1:20)
Love you, brother!
@@DaleBoyce2012 I wasn’t arguing that physical ethnic Israel will receive the blessings of God without faith in Messiah…. But, as scripture points out, they will one day!
@@brandonvonbo9708 Amen!!
If Christians replaced blood born “covenant” Israel & Judah, who keep the commandments of Yah and have the testimony of Christ, please explain the judgement of Joel 3? This is clearly referring to a people group.
Acts 1:6 So when they had come together, they asked him, “Lord, will you at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?” 7 He said to them, “It is not for you to know times or seasons that the Father has fixed by his own authority.
We can all thank God for Dr John MacArthur's long and fruitful ministry. But sadly he has missed the mark on a number of issues, e.g. he was on the wrong side in the Lordship salvation controversy, and he took a very unbalanced position on the charismatic gifts. His unwavering commitment to dispensationalism, with its distinctive emphasis on the postponed kingdom has led him to deny the present reign of Christ. Dr S Lewis Johnson, the man he has cited as one of his greatest influences, much later in life changed his position from Dispensationalism to the more orthodox Historic Premillenialism. Perhaps by the grace of God, Dr John MacArthur will reconsider his theological position. We are all work in progress.
Many thanks for the response and the irenic spirit in which it was done.
Excellent teaching!! Thank you! God bless you! 🙏🏼
There is only one redemption plan, not 2 (1 for Jews, 1 for gentiles). Jesus came to proclaim His salvation message to all peoples, but only those who believe will be saved. He is fulfilling His promise to Jews by the offering of Himself as their Messiah. Now they must believe
There is only ONE Vine and the Vine is Christ so there cannot be TWO Israels. You cannot be grafted in and not grafted in at the same time.
Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
Gal 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
I hope you are not disputing that there is a difference between males and females though. Gal 3:28 was/is one of the most abused verses of the present age.
@@metapolitikgedanken612 the entire book of Galatians is about there is only ONE israel, one true Israel. Anyone saying there isn’t a physical difference between male and female is totally out of the context of the passage. Some do also try to use this verse to say woman can have the office of a bishop or pastor. That is false too. That has nothing to do with the context and would contradict the pastoral epistles. Just about any verse or passage is abused today by someone.
@@pre-tribrapturetrueorfalse4124 Sure, but some are more prone to be abused than others. Depends on convenience. Like "Do not Judge" is being used quite often by people that are more prone to be pesky and realizing that what they do isn't so good at all.
But back on track. I do not dispute that there are various ethnicities/nations historically and presently and that this got some worldly relevance. It should however be clear that Jesus Christ IS THE WAY TRUTH LIFE and that he is one person. Also that instead of a 'physically chosen people', we now have a spiritual chosen people who are those that are in christ and that the offer of grace is made to people regardless of ethnicity, gender, social class, etc.
But if you listen to Christians they copu presuppositions from Panhumanism, Judaism and plenty of other constructs. And I think it's leading them astray.
There are two Israels in a sense, One according to the Spirit (the church) another one according to the flesh. This is why the apostle Paul could say in an enigmatic way "not all Israel is Israel."
@@rudynegrete5658 I think people are mistaken, if they think that what is called Jews/Israel is "Israel by the Flesh".... It is simply people that have assumed an identity... not more. Interestingly the book of Revelation refers to Israelites in terms of their tribes, which no longer exist. So one is dealing with resurrected OT-saints there... Not a remnant in the present descending from Israelites in the past. There is more hinting on this of course. People that say they are Jews that are not. Spiritual Sodom and Egypt around Jerusalem, etc.
The true people of God in the OT were those people whose hearts had been circumcised by God and during the OT age, the vast majority of them were ethnic Hebrews, Israelites and Jews, but there was always a minority of gentiles. The true people of God in the NT are those people whose hearts had been circumcised by God and during the NT age, the vast majority of are ethnic gentiles with a minority of ethnic Jews who have become Christians. In other words, the only thing that has changed is the proportions, but nevertheless, they are the same continuous people of God.
1) Romans 11. 2) psalm 105 v 9 and 10 plus genesis 17 v 5 to 7
Brilliant , Mr Saller, brilliant. John McArthur is a man of God and in some ways the conscience of America but his eschatology is from the garbage of Darby.
So if the Messiah is yet to come, then what is their hope from first century to who knows when and then one must infer there is no salvation for them until their 'Messiah' comes?
Yes, all the disciples were Jewish and all the converts on Pentecost were also Jewish and they all where saved by the gospel. So when did that arrangement change?
The Jewish nation in AD70 were judged for their rejection of Jesus their Messiah. To date they refuse to accept Him and many Christians, especially the dispensationalists are doing a serious disservice by giving them a false hope.
YAY! Totally agree. Thank you sir
Dude. This is amazing.
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Given that Macarthur is influenced by Dispensationalism ( and he's not shy about it ), I find it ironic that he's very scathing of the charasmatic movement , however, Dispensationalism is a product of a charasmatic movement - the Second Great Awakening of the 1830's.
Yeah, MacArthur’s eschatology is quite inconsistent in light of the rest theology, so much so that he is willing (and has done this) to compromise his theology in order to make sense of his eschatology. Case in point, he will say God is sovereign and does whatever He pleases but since the Jews rejected Jesus, God now has to put together a plan B scenario in order for the Jews to be saved.
Bro! Every word. Usually I have quibbles here and there even when people broadly agree with me. Not so with this video. Every word was shot on. This was a fantastic response.
We gentiles can never replace the Jews. We are grafted in. In Rom 11:24-25, we are warned no to be arrogant. I'm thankful God count me precious enough to be grafted in and receive the gift of salvation.
Amen, brother. This is exactly how I personally understand true Israel and the church!
Ephesians 2:11-21 couldn't be more clear!
11 Therefore remember that at one time you Gentiles in the flesh, called “the uncircumcision” by what is called the circumcision, which is made in the flesh by hands- 12 remember that you were at that time separated from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. 13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ. 14 For he himself is our peace, who has made us both one and has broken down in his flesh the dividing wall of hostility 15 by abolishing the law of commandments expressed in ordinances, that he might create in himself one new man in place of the two, so making peace, 16 and might reconcile us both to God in one body through the cross, thereby killing the hostility. 17 And he came and preached peace to you who were far off and peace to those who were near. 18 For through him we both have access in one Spirit to the Father. 19 So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, 20 built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone, 21 in whom the whole structure, being joined together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord. 22 In him you also are being built together into a dwelling place for God by the Spirit.
To insist that there's a distinction is to insist a different means of salvation, yet there's only one. Faith in Christ. Christ has only one inheritance, that is the church, the bride of the true Israel.
The problem is that very few Christians understand the mistery of who the Original Gentiles of Romans 11 : 25-26 and 1 corinthians 2 : 6-10 + Colossians 1 :26- 28 + Ephesians 3 : 3 - 10 etc. Really are. They are all from the Lost ( scattered) sheep of both " houses " of Israel., " House of Israel and House of Juda" . The pagan Gentiles joined later.. The bread is first and foremost for the children... MATHEW 15 : 21- 28 + 10 :5-7 . The humanistic Roman Catholic ( Universal) so called church is responsible for the " every body first every body equal" replacement Theology. READ EXODUS 4 : 22 and the whole of the old Covenant first to get your dispensations in the right order. Luke 1 : 31-33 Israel forever, Israel ruler prince and priests the future kings with the " King of kings" That is their calling Revelation 20 : 6 and 1 PETER 2 : 9 - 10 Or for what other reason do you think the devil and his circus church hate the blood of the ever lasting Covenant with the HEBREW nation so much HEBREWS 13 :20.
Replacement theology, Covenant theology, Fulfillment theology is a carry over from 16th Century Catholicism. The Scriptures are clear that following the "times of the Gentiles" God will pick up where he paused with the Jews during the "time of Jacob's Trouble" aka "The Tribulation".
It is mind boggling to me that a person claiming to be a Christian would so arrogantly (Romans 11) twist and manipulate many Old (and parts of New) Testament Scriptures, claiming many OT passages written (by the Holy Spirit without error) to Israel no longer mean what they actually originally meant (making God a deceitful God) and that He while He originally told the Jewish authors and prophets what to write and that they are no longer His chosen people. By you stating that God has reneged on His promises to Israel, claiming the intent of the original prophets and authors has been altered is not supported by Scripture and makes God out to be unfaithful and untrusworthy. But the huge elephant in the room is the fact that Israel is back in the land God promised them. Most are unbelievers but once called by God, many (one-third - Zech. 13) of them will call upon Jesus (Matt. 23:37-39) and thus God will save all Israel. (Rom. 11)
I hope you know that by rejecting Israel as God's chosen people, you align yourself with the ilk of Hamas. Beware, because God promised he would curse those who curse Israel and bless those who bless Israel. Also, Matt. 5:19 states that "anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven." Luther and Calvin got a lot right, but this they got wrong.
John Macarthur does not preach Replacement theology you are taking an small clip and not watching the whole..take the time to look up John macarthur on replacement theology and you will find his stance on this. He Believes in a pre millenialist...a literal 1000 yr. Reign.a literal restorationof the land..nation of Israel. Amos 9:11-15...Jer. 31:35-37 clearly states that Israel will never cease to be a nation...Ez. 11:16&17..sis the regathering of the nation..Ez. 20: 30-44..
Ez. 37:15-28..speaking of one nation with one king..one shephard..etc..Macarthur refers to himself as a "Leakey Dispensationalist"..
As a Bible-believing Spirit-filled Christian of 47 years I can tell U, JM is the last person I trust for accurate biblical theology. He teaches some of the most destructive and damnable heresies of our time. In fact, if it weren't for his belief in the basic Gospel and Lordship salvation I would not even consider him a Christian.
Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place.” (John 18:36)
"how much more will these, the natural branches, be grafted back into their own olive tree." (Romans 11:24)
"How then shall they call on Him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear without a preacher?" (Romans 10:14)
Dr. MacArthur's teaching STRONGLY WATERS DOWN the words of the Lord Jesus Christ that "ALL AUTHORITY IN HEAVEN AND EARTH HAS BEEN GIVEN UNTO ME. THEREFORE GO AND MAKE DISCIPLES OF ALL NATIONS ..." producing Christians who now have a weak - even distorted view of who they REALLY ARE in Christ unlike how the Apostles viewed themselves in the first-century church. Replacement Theology is also false (Gal. 3: 24 - 29, Eph. 2: 14 - 16) as God's word confirms. If Dr. MacArthur has any problems with this, he can take it up with God because he has to give an account of his teachings before Him on that Day!
Wow! This is what happens when you are enclosed within a theological box. John McArthur ignore so much scripture and violates the efficacy of the gospel.
God’s promises stand firm for Israel. Just because the promise isn’t accepted, does not make the promise itself null and void. If I promise to stay with my husband for the rest of my life, but he decides he doesn’t want me that doesn’t change that my promise is for him. And since G-d is a perfect Promise Keeper, His promise remains in effect forever no matter what.
wrong, any covenant is a 2 way agreement, God says "I will do XYZ if you do XYZ". if I stop believing I break my covenant with God and the covenant no longer exists. here is hebrews 6:9.....9 not like the covenant that I made with their fathers on the day I took them by their hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt. Because they did not continue in My covenant, I disregarded them," says the Lord..........NOTE: becouse they did not keep Gods covenant God disreguarded them. hebrews also says that the old covenant has been abolished and the new covenant replaces it. jews who reject christ have NO covenant with God, and according to 1st john they reject God the father as well, 1st john says " NO ONE who rejects the son has the father". Jews who reject christ are not Gods people and have no covenant promises with God.
I'd say that they did accept the covenant. There were like 5000 saved this day or that day. These people made up the first of what we call the Church. For 2000 years now some are in covenant while others are not. I don't know why so many follow the rejectors side? Makes no sense. Many false prophets has risen and deceived many. For almost 2000 years they focused on the body, not some nation that the UK\UN set up with Rothschild banking interest running it. The previous 1950 years would see this as foolish. They focused on Messiah, take a look around how things are with their doctrine the past 50 years? The world is just about unlivable on their watch. It's time for them to shut up! Let those that know what they're talking about speak for a change. Fat chance as one will be called an anti-this or that to shut up the truth.
@@jamesba-xd7xf but the new testament says ALL ISRAEL WILL BE SAVED.
but in romans 11 WHO is "israel"?? israel are Jews AND gentiles who have faith in christ, NOT unbelieving Jews. israel is NOT ethnic Jews OR a piece of land in the middle east. it says Jews who reject christ are BROKEN OFF of the israel tree. gentiles who believe in christ are grafted into the israel tree thus becoming "ALL of israel" being saved. when the fullness of the gentiles comes in "IN THIS WAY all israel will be saved". it does NOT say " when the fullness of the gentiles comes in all Jews will be saved". in romans 11 paul says of unbelieving Jews " IF THEY leave thier unbelief behind them God will graft them back in"......notice he says "IF they leave thier unbelief behind them" he does NOT say "WHEN they leave thier unbelief". the bible clearly says that although the jews be as the sand of the sea only a reamnant will be saved, and thats the same with the gentiles as well. ALL these reject christ becouse they choose to, Jesus died for everyone. ( IM NOT a calvinist!!). nowhere does the bible teach a mass converson of jews or gentiles during the last days or at anytime.@@balafama2120
Though Israel be as the sand of the sea only a remnant shall be saved…… they are not all israel who descended from israel … the flesh profits nothing these are not the people of God … peace be upon THE israel God
You are completely wrong. John MacArthur is absolutely correct. “The kingdom of God is not coming with things that can be observed” is referring to them not recognizing Jesus in their presence. You are misunderstanding John MacArthur completely.
Yes He will come back again and He will fullfil those scriptures which yet to be fullfil.
Beautiful…it has been always by faith alone. Therefore I tell you, the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to [another] people who will produce the fruit of it…the promise to the fathers were fulfilled when Christ resurrected and The Father “The Most High Elohim sent The Spirit of Christ … JesusChrist is our Land (heavenly and earthly) composed of His Holy Nation. Every nation will bow to our King including the sons of YAHWEH! Is not about Eschatology but about Christology, IS ALL HIM : JESUS & HIS BRIDE_ CHRIST
Where 'you' are missing - MacArthur did not say the Church has replaced Israel - to begin with he said if an Amillennial was to say to an Orthodox Jew- he would then respond with "Where is the Kingdom" because the OT the Jew, expected the Kingdom to be laid out as it was told in the OT. You are imposing on what Macarthur said by minor tweaks in your assumption of the stance you feel MacArthur is taking. (A Dispensationalist). You mention "who were the 1st Christians in the Christian Church" the Jewish ppl - you would be good to read a book " The History of the Jewish People during the time of Jesus Christ" - which denotes what the Jewish people expected according to the promise. Duet 30, 2 Sam 7 and Jeremiah 31 .. When the Pharisees asked that question; in Luke 20. - I find it equally as interesting according to what you are claiming - because they asked the question knowing the answer (The promise) they just did not think that Jesus was the one. - look at Luke 19:11 - this is what they thought see - not sure why you are attacking what MacArthur said when Biblically - it comes across exegetically correct knowing the meaning behind the scripture - not sure where or how you claim MacArthur was saying anything other than that?? but if I were just to listen to what you said without weighing it against scripture I would have to assume the worse as well ; blindly of course.
Israel is not the church bro
Sound argumentation
The Bible calls believers the Israel of God. That's scripture.
After 16 minutes of sound biblical defense of his position, all you have to say is “you’re wrong BRO”?
@@kimmykimko--- read Romans 9. 10 and 11
Study the Bible for yourself. You’ll learn it is.
I’m pre millennial and pre trib but I also believe in supercessionism/replacement theology
Thank you for having the courage of your convictions. God bless you 🙏🏻
Did you read Isaiah? Zechariah? Before you make your argument, please know what is written in the Bible.
Only 1 Jew in heaven. Jesus Christ.
I am really looking for some teaching on this side of things so I can hear the other side of things. If anyone knows of a good teaching video on this subject can you please post it here so I could watch it? I am looking for just straight teaching and not really wanting a video that insults anyone
Unfortunately, most of the insults come from Dispensationalists who continually call the biblical doctrine that the Church IS founded upon the TRUE Israel (of faith) "Replacement Theology" and "Heresy."
Study Ephesians 2 for yourself!
Paul distinguishes between the TWO Israels in Romans 9 when he says;
6It is not as though God’s word had failed. *For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel*
7Nor because they are his descendants are they all Abraham’s children. On the contrary, “It is through Isaac that your offspring will be reckoned.”
8In other words, *it is not the children by physical descent who are God’s children* but
*it is the children of the promise* (by faith) who are regarded as Abraham’s offspring.
This is very important to understand!
God had an earthly/natural people called "Israel." Among all the nations of the earth THEY were His chosen people.
But even among them, NOT ALL were saved. ALL of them had turned away from God and ALL of them deserved to be destroyed (read Ezekiel 6)
That's whay Paul, quoting Isaiah says "Unless THE LORD had left us descendants, we would have been like Sodom, we would have become like Gomorrah" (Isaiah 1:9, Romans 9:29)
God took this small remnant of ETHNIC/NATIONAL Israel, the remaining "Stump in the land" (Isaiah 6) and with THIS remnant, this "stump," of the ISRAEL Tree, God formed THE CHURCH!
Remember Paul said some branches (of earthly natural Israel) wer "cut off," and gentiles were GRAFTED IN!
WHERE were gentiles grafted INTO?
Answer: The ISRAEL TREE!
Instead of a tree, Paul uses a "House" in Ephesians 2 as an analogy for "Israel."
And the FOUNDATION of this "Israel House" Is "the apostle and prophets, with Jesus Christ as the Chief cornerstone."
This why Peter says:
"ye also as living stones are built up a *spiritual house* a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God by Jesus Christ." (1 Peter 2:5)
Yes, the Church IS founded upon the remnant of Earthly/Natural/Ethnic ISRAEL who were of the faith of Abraham (Galatians 3)
Is God done with the earthly/natural/ethnic Israel who were "cut off" and who are presently spiritually lost?
NO! God WILL bring in a final remnant of t his earthly/natural/ethnic Israel.
He WILL "graft them in again" as Paul tells us.
But WHERE will they be grafted INTO?
Answer: The Church! God's one and only TRUE Israel tree!
He is speaking the Truth!
the church has not replaced israel. the church is israel. the faithful remnant of israel was God's church, they received jesus, and then brought the whole world into the church.
the two are one, one new man. the israel of God. the jerusalem above is free, and she is our mother.
Right on brother, you nailed it. The New Covenant is for the Jews. The mystery of God is that the nations (Gentiles) are included too! Christ is King. He reigns in heaven and in the hearts of men. And in the age to come, His reign will be over the entire new Earth as well!
That is the problem of john,, because he is despentionalist. He does not understand that the kingdom of Christ is those who are saved by Christ death on the cross,, and all the believing jews and gentiles are belong to that kingdom. Jesus reigning over them that are saved by Him..not the national election of Israel. John is wrong in his understanding of Amillinialism.
God bless Israel and His people the Jews. Yeshua Hamashiach is not a liar and His promises with Israel will come to fruition! Be patient and watch and see!
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Read and study Romans 9,10, 11 in one sitting. These three chapters are Israel past, 9, present 10, and future 11.
Gen 12:1-3 NKJV - "Now the LORD had said to Abram:
“Get out of your country,
From your family
And from your father’s house,
To a land that I will show you. I will make you a great nation;
I will bless you
And make your name great;
And you shall be a blessing. I will bless those who bless you,
And I will curse him who curses you;
And in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.”"
So in the spirit of quoting Jesus… how about Matthew 25 verses 31-46.. where he is quoting Joel chapter 3..
All the gates and walls are named for Jews -- the 12 Patriarchs and 12 apostles.
There are 12,000 from each tribe who comprise the 144,000.
The Remnant has the commandments of God and the Testimony of Yeshua. Just as the early church. It is not a new religion... It is a branch of Judaism called the Way.
ALL the promises of God are YES, IN CHRIST. All of them.
Oh no, Romans 11 clear; God is not finished with Israel. Read the whole chapter. Oh man you’re just a baby in knowledge and theology. The Old Testament is packed with Gods promises of Israel’s restoration AND of the Jews returning to him. Honestly you’re still in spiritual nappies.
Rev 12:17
"And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ."
PAUL, the apostle REPLACED SAUL, THE pharisee?
No. Saul of Tarsus died to sin and Paul the apostle arose in Christ.
Galatians 2:20
No replacement theology at all..He is wrong by saying that refering to a person who hold to Amill. Old testament believers and new testament is one in Christ by faith in Christ.
If I was a Dispensationalist, I would tell the Orthodox Jew that Jesus is going to give him the Kingdom, but first He's going to make him suffer through seven years of His wrath where 2/3 of your people will die.
If I was a Dispensationalist I would tell the Orthodox Jews that, Hey, I'm sorry but I won't be here to support and help you through the time, or be a testimony to the rest of your people. That's not my responsibility, 'cause God doesn't want me to suffer. I would say, Hey, but don't worry, God has appointed 144,000 of your people to preach some Gospel other that the one Paul preached, and in the end, at the very last moment, your people will be saved, not by faith, but by sight.
If I was a Dispensationalist I would tell the Orthodox Jew we Christians support the building of their temple, and some even give money so they can build the antichrist temple, even though I know that Orthodox Jews are opposed to the rebuilding of the temple because they believe the Messiah has to come and build it Himself.
If I was a Dispensationalist, I wouldn't reason from the Scriptures that Jesus is who He said He was, as Paul did. I wouldn't tell them that the Scriptures are actually about Jesus, as He told the Pharisees, or that they must be born again, as Jesus told Nicodemus, or that the Kingdom was then and there in their midst.
If I was a Dispensationalist, I wouldn't tell them that being baptized into the death of Christ is the only thing that saves us from wrath. I wouldn't say anything about the glorious gospel of Jesus that is meant only for the Church. I would just tell them that there is no need for them to be saved by being baptized into the death Christ and raised up with Him. I would not tell them that what counts is a new creation. I would not tell them that all of the promises are fulfilled in the one Seed, Jesus Christ.
Wow, just the first three minutes is all I could stand. Mac is a smart man, and an able theologian. But he sounds like the still-clueless apostles just before Jesus departed to heaven: "Is it at this time you are restoring the kingdom to Israel?" They still hadn't gotten it, but the Spirit was not yet given, so they were confused. The kingdom was "not of this world," but that part they still missed.
Paul would get it, but he was still to be called: "We have been transferred out of the dominion of darkness into the...wait for it...KINGDOM of His dear son."
Yes, John. This IS the kingdom. Sorry if there's no bells and whistles, thrones and parades, servants and subjects. But there is righteousness, and yes, it's for Jews, too. And Gentiles. Everyone. Today. Come and drink the living waters; they flow for all.
The promises Israel, the nation, once had were not maintained because they turned away. "But as many as received Him..." Paul said "the Israel of God" are the ones God is blessing now--that includes all who believe, regardless of their nation.
I agree brother!! Thank you for this. Indeed, in God’s kingdom there are no distinction between Jew or Gentile. We are grafted into the olive tree which is Jesus’ kingdom. Jesus is the covenant-fulfilling Israel, so that no Jew and Gentile may boast.
If I go to a Jew and tell him the truth, and he rejects me. That is his choice. I will not lie to him for the sake of 'winning him over'. That would be doing him a great disservice.
This is one message where brother MacArthur doesn't get it right - just as David had to consolidate the Kingdom of Israel and uniting it before everyone recognized David as King - Christ is consolidating and unifying His Kingdom until every knee shall bow and every tongue confess Him as Lord - just as David was still the anointed King of Israel while he was establishing it - Jesus is still the anointed King, reigning and ruling over all things from His heavenly throne and is establishing His Kingdom.😀
They, the elect jews, will come to saving faith in the last week of Daniel after the rapture of the Church. Romans 11 speaks clearly of the restoration of Israel.
Brilliantly explained, Mr Saller, you're 100% correct. Jews and gentiles both must come to Jesus to be saved. When Jesus spoke the words 'no one comes to the father but by me' his immediate audience in those days were nearly all jews. When anyone goes to evangelise the Jews in Israel what good news do you have to bring to them if it's not the good news about Jesus?
This video was perfectly done, and I will be sharing it around to the delusional people that still believe today's Talmudic Jews are the same as the Hebrew Israelites of Jesus' time, who followed Mosaic Law, and not the blasphemous/sacrilegious Talmud and Zohar.
“How can the church made up of Israel replace Israel when the church is Israel?” Hehe. Good line.
The church is not Israel. The church is the church and Israel is Israel
Eph 2:14-16, “one new man”
How? Because it is prophesied that the *nation of Israel* will have a King. That's what Christ came to do. He came to fulfill that prophecy, but Israel *as a nation* rejected Him. Yes, the early church was primarily Jews. But there's an unfulfilled promise to the *nation of Israel.*
Israel's prophecy is described in Daniel 9: 24-27. Daniel 9:26 "he was cut off, not for himself." They killed him. But the prophecy starts in Daniel 9:24 for your people, Daniel AND your holy city: Jerusalem, it says. To make reconciliation for sin (iniquity) and bring everlasting righteousness. That's not the church. That's for Israel. Do they have everlasting righteousness? Nope. They rejected Him. So did God change his mind and decide not to do it? Nope. That's what Ezekiel 38 explains.
In the latter days, Israel will come to salvation in Jesus and be restored. That's what Romans 9, 10 and 11 are all about. God will use a war to bring Israel to her knees. And once they realize who the Messiah is, they will say 'Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord- Jesus told Jerusalem THEY will not see him again UNTIL they say that in Matthew 23:37-39. That's what he meant by that. They will mourn when they reflect on what they did per Isaiah 53 and Zechariah 12:10. Those are future events for Israel.
Once you understand WHO the 7-year Tribulation is for and WHY, it has zero to do with the Church. Nowhere in any of the Old Testament fathers visions where they saw Israel in the future under Gods wrath, was it the church. How do we know that? Because the New Testament tells us the Church was hidden from them!
None of the Old Testament prophets had a clue God would share himself in the future with those pagan Gentiles. We know this from Colossians 1:25-27, Ephesians 3:9-10, Ephesians 5:32. So, according to Replacement Theology, if God can change his mind and forsake Israel, who is to say he wouldn't do the same with the Church? The answer is, God doesn't break promises and he has a promise to restore Israel in the last days to salvation. And he will do it. But not during the Church Age, but during the 7-year Tribulation period. This is the point of rescuing the Church out before His wrath begins. 1 Thessalonians 1:10, Revelation 3:10. We aren't appointed to the time of God's wrath. It's not for us. It's for Israel. The Harpazo of the Church is imminent. God Bless.
@@Chooselifealways51 The church is spiritual Israel. Any people of physical Israel may be a part of it.
@@HarpazoReady2022very well said. Thank you!
Catholic heresy got most of its falsehoods from ROMAN culture. Worshiping false gods, graven images etc.
Where does RCC get off changing the 2nd commandment anyway?
How much of Macarthur's teaching have you recieved? Because I believe you've misrepresented his teachings on this matter.
Anyone who studies Scripture understands that gentiles never replaced ethnic Jews.
Israel has always been what it has. But those of Israel who didn’t believe in Messiah were branches that were broken off the tree. Gentiles who did were grafted onto that tree. There was no replacement, merely a ridding of those who denied Jesus, and an acceptance of those who do.
It was never a 1:1 replacement, Gentile for Jew.
And yes, ethnicity is not a factor in salvation, but faith. Salvation by grace, not race. One must understand though that Romans 9 is speaking of Israel and Edom, not faith in Jesus dictating those of the children of the promise. Romans 9 was speaking of the difference between Israel and Edom.
The big picture, the children of Israel, called by God, why? To be a light to the World. God’s desire is to bless the whole World. Not because he’s setting His sights on Israel, I want to just bless Israel. His sights are set on Israel so He can bless the whole World (Gen. 12:3). He calls Abraham so the whole World can be blessed through Abraham’s seed. That’s why He chooses Abraham, Isaiac, Jacob, the children of Israel. Why He so patiently gives them is Torah; why he instructs them; why He disciplines them. Why, because they have a mission, they have a purpose. And their mission, and their purpose is to be a light to the World, and through this people, the Messiah will come, and will be known to the World. Why, because God wants to save hundreds of millions of people. God wants to forgive the sins of billions of people. God wants people with Him forever, and ever, and ever, and ever, and ever. Worshipping Him, loving Him, enjoying Him in extraordinary joy and peace and fulfillment beyond anything we’ve ever experienced. To be with Him forever, and ever, and ever.
And therefore, because He’s given us free will; He’s given us choices to do things; we sin, we do evil. He sees what He will do, He will send His son to die in our place that whoever believes in Him can have eternal life and would not perish. In order for that to happen, there had to be a people through whom He could come. If Jesus came to India two-thousand years ago, born into a hindu family; first could He have been raised in a richly clean environment. Secondly, when He began to teach, would there be any understanding what He’s talking about, any conception of sin and atonement, and holiness, and the one God? And then when He died on the cross and rose from the dead, or worked miracles before that would they have just thought he’s another incarnate of Krishna, or another Hindu diety and worshipped Him?
There’d be no understanding of salvation; there’d be no understanding of righteousness; there’d be no understanding of our sin against God. There’d be no understanding of our need for forgiveness. God prepared that way through Abraham for two-thousand years through His offspring. So that there would be a people through who Messiah could come, and then die, rise, and His message be understood. That’s why His Jewish emissaries; His Jewish apostles could go and then share that message through the World because they are the ones that understood it as Jewish people. This is part of Israel’s calling to be a light to the World.”
The reality is such that what words you use, in the end, whether one utilizes Covenant or Replacement Theology makes no difference. The bottom line they accept the concept that the Church has replaced Israel here on earth in this present day. Or that somehow the Church has become the New Israel if you please. Yet scripture doesn't even allude to such an Idea. In fact that body (the Church) is directly linked to its head, which is Christ, who is in heaven at the right hand of God and not in this world today. The Church's place is not an earthly one to claim. Her claim is Christ and Him alone. She is espoused to him, and her desire, her yearning, should be that she was with him where he is. And at the present, He is there in the heavenly. The Church's calling is a heavenly one. Paul makes clear that our citizenship is in heaven. He does not declare it as a future thing, but rather a present circumstance. When Christ came and was in this scene the Kingdom was there with him indeed. But was He not rejected and thus the kingdom as well? And He was rejected not by Israel alone but by the Gentiles as well. The Church is something new and not of this world, and neither are those that make up the true Church of the Living God. Each of its members (true believers of Jesus Christ), are they not "new creatures created in Christ Jesus?" Not from something here of this earth but of a heavenly nature. John 3 alludes to that quite well.
So then what of the events here in this worldly scene? What of the prophecies in Old Testament? Will they not be fulfilled? It cannot be of the Chruch for here members are heavenly citizens and present earthly existence as "ambassadors" for Christ. Not for some earthly Kingdom. Romans 11 makes clear that God has not forgotten or changed His promises to Israel. The promises from the Old Testament promises of God regarding Israel have not yet all been completed. In Hosea, we see the declaration of Lo-Ammi (not my people), and so it has been since from that time until the present. Ye in that same prophetic book we see God's mercy of redemption for Israel come forth again as she will be declared in "the place where it was said Lo-ammi they shall be called sons of the Living God" (Hos. 1:10). Chapter two of that same book speaks much to Israel's redemption as a people as do other books of Old Testament prophecy. To deny it is to deny God's word. To somehow say that the Church now has the to those promises denies the tenets of scripture that paint a different picture. If God has promised he will fulfill those promises. By making something to replace the Israel those promises were made to with the Church would not be keeping those promises. And to somehow conjure up through the rationale of the mind of flesh that the Church is the new Israel to those promises is very disingenuous. It is plain from the word that the Israel of old we find redemption as a people when the one whom they rejected shall be taken up as his people here on earth once again in that millennial scene.
Who is really teaching “Replacement Theology” ?
(Did God fulfill His promises to the Jewish people at Calvary? Matthew 26:28, John 19:30)
The advocates of modern Dispensational Theology often accuse others of promoting “Replacement Theology”, or some may even say “Antisemitism”. What does the Bible say about their accusations?
1. Who is replacing Christ as the seed of Abraham through which all the families of the Earth would be blessed in Genesis 12:3, with Abraham’s modern descendants? (See Galatians 3:8)
2. Who is replacing the one people of God in John 10:16, with two peoples of God ?
3. Who is replacing the one seed (Christ) in Galatians 3:16, with the many seeds?
4. Who is replacing the children of the promise in Romans 9:8, with the children of the flesh?
5. Who is replacing the faithful “remnant” of Israelites in Romans 11:1-5, with the Baal worshipers?
6. Who is replacing the word "so" in Romans 11:26, with the word "then"?
7. Who is attempting to replace the Church made up of all races of people, with one made up only of Gentiles? Why did Peter address the crowd as “all the house of Israel” in Acts 2:36, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted Christ on the Day of Pentecost?
8. Based on Hebrews 9:15, the New Covenant cannot be separated from the Messiah’s death. Is the covenant in Daniel 9:27 connected to the Messiah’s death in Daniel 9:26. Is the covenant with the “many” in Daniel 9:27 the same covenant with the “many” in Matthew 26:28? If it is, some have replaced the New Covenant in Daniel 9:27 with a future covenant made by an antichrist not found in Daniel chapter 9. (See the 1599 Geneva Bible used by the Pilgrims.)
9. Those promoting the Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology often accuse others of teaching “Replacement Theology”, but are they the masters of it? Are they promoting a form of Dual Covenant Theology based on race? (See “genealogies” in Titus 3:9) Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis?
10. Watch the TH-cam video “Genesis of Dispensational Theology” to see the origin of this man-made doctrine, which is less than 200 years old. It was brought to the United States about the time of the Civil War by John Nelson Darby. The doctrine was later incorporated into the notes of the Scofield Reference Bible, and then spread through much of the modern Church.
Dallas Theological Seminary in Dallas Texas was created in part to promote John Darby’s Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology.
Lewis Sperry Chafer, the first president of Dallas Theological, had the following to say about the difference between Israel and the Church:
“The dispensationalist believes that throughout the ages God is pursuing two distinct purposes: one related to the earth with earthly people and earthly objectives involved which is Judaism; while the other is related to heaven with heavenly people and heavenly objectives involved, which is Christianity.”
Lewis Sperry Chafer, Dispensationalism (Dallas, Seminary Press, 1936), p. 107.
Chafer states that, ‘Israel is an eternal nation, heir to an eternal land, with an eternal kingdom, on which David rules from an eternal throne,’ that is, on earth and distinct from the church who will be in heaven.”
Lewis Sperry Chafer. Systematic Theology. 1975. Vol. IV. pp. 315-323.
John Walvoord, another prominent voice of Dallas Theological stated…
"...it is an article of normative dispensational belief that the boundaries of the land promised to Abraham and his descendants from the Nile to the Euphrates will be literally instituted and that Jesus Christ will return to a literal and theocratic Jewish kingdom centred on a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. In such a scheme the Church on earth is relegated to the status of a parenthesis.”
John F. Walvoord, The Rapture Question.1979, p. 25
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Are there two peoples of God in John 10:16? (See also 1 John 2:22-23, 2 John 1:7-11.)
What is the land promise to the Old Testament Saints in Hebrews 11:15-16?
Based on 2 Peter 3:10-13, is this earth “eternal”? Will it be replaced by a new earth?
Based on Acts 2:36, and Romans 9:6-8, and Romans 11:1-5, and Hebrews 12:22-24, and James 1:1-3, can faithful Israel and the Church be separated into two different groups?
Who is the New Covenant promised to in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and Hebrews 8:6-13?
Will modern Orthodox Jews ever be saved outside of the New Covenant Church?
Gal 3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
Gal 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
Gal 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
its a covenant theology the old Mosaic covenant is fading away and the new covenant is coming in
Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
Rev 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
Rev 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
Rev 21:5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
Heb 12:24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.
Heb 12:25 See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven:
Heb 12:26 Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven.
Heb 12:27 And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.
2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. destruction of the temple in 70ad elements burnt up
elements /stoicheion
stoy-khi'-on
Neuter of a presumed derivative of the base of G4748; something orderly in arrangement, that is, (by implication) a serial (basal, fundamental, initial) constituent (literally), proposition (figuratively): - element, principle, rudiment.
The kingdom of God comes to every follower of Jesus Christ by the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, for the Jewish followers of Jesus (Yeshua Hamashiach) or the Gentile followers... but there are promises of God meant for only Jewish believers yet to be fulfilled...We Gentile believers have all we need through the Holy Spirit until all who love our Savior are gathered together to meet Him in the clouds to be with Him always...God doesn't want us to be greedy for promises never meant for us.
There is no such thing as replacement theology. You can't replace people that weren't Jews. Does God owe an apology to the people rubbed out for dancing naked around the golden calf? Or the "Jews" that sacrificed their firstborn to Baal? It is the son's of Abraham's faith, not his body, that are blessed. Oh, what about Ishmael and the Muslims, Abraham's firstborn?
Christ said faith comes by the hearing of the word of God.
The death and resurrection was the fulfillment of the law, the church that lived in the ages past, present and future will come to the Father only by the drawing of the Spirit of God to himself through Christ Jesus alone.
His Name has reached to the ends of the earth and we are without excuse.
We must remember that those in Christ, by God's will only, ARE the Spiritual Israel. We cannot boast .
The heavenly Jerusalem is the government, the Church.
And I do believe that the physical condition on earth is entirely the spirit of Babylon and her idolatry . The government of the harlot Babylon is the evil that divides the children of desolation from the children of God's mercy, His Church.
The physical Jerusalem that exists in deceitful wickedness will not produce the Holy Christ as the Anointed Redeemer has already come. His return will be as he descended.
I couldn't make it thru MacArthur's example. I'm writhing. Why not give a Bible answer instead of one made up in the carnal mind?
What about the effects of dispensationalism on evangelizing the Palestinians? In Dispensationalism the Palestinians are disposable, good luck with that John MacArthur. His line of thinking is simply a straw man argument.
Ancient Israel consisted of 12 tribes divided into two kingdoms, Israel and Yahudah (Judea). Ten tribes lived in the north and two lived in the south. Yudahites and Benjamites lived in the southern kingdom. The Israel of God are those who believe in God’s Messiah, Jesus/Yahshua. The modern state of Israel is a political Israel and has nothing to do with the scriptures. And it doesn’t even consist of 12 tribes, so what does that tell you?
I do not agree with Dispensationalism, but to say MacArthur teaches salvation comes to the Jews any differently, is putting words in MacArthur's mouth (14:20).