17 Things Destiny 1 did BETTER than Destiny 2
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ม.ค. 2022
- This video takes a nostalgic journey through 17 things Destiny 1 Did Better Than Destiny 2. D1 and D2 are two unique games each with their own strengths and weaknesses, but there are definitely some awesome D1 features that veteran players miss. Although the majority of D2 players seem to prefer D2 over D1, there’s still a significant portion of the playerbase saying Destiny 1 is better than Destiny 2. Which game do you prefer, and why do you like it more? Let me know in the comments.
I also want to point out that I could easily make the reverse version of this video. That is, Destiny 2 does so, so many things better than Destiny 1. Remember when we had to go to orbit before launching any activities? This video's purpose is simply to recall some of our favorite D1 features that have yet to adequately make it into D2.
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You explained the video better than I did in that other comment section lol. Loved the video man
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I miss the old tower the most. It felt like home, and was perfectly designed.
Facts
Yeah like on d2. It takes a fat minute to get to Ada or drifter.
Yeah, it felt like soothing to be there with the vault pillars. But the new tower feels like “the tower” not home; So true.
@@TaLiiWaG …you know you can fast travel down to them?
Ik facts
The thing i miss the most is armor sets. They looked way better in D1. Iron banner was the armor i liked the most. Thats why the most used armor sets are trials armor from D1. Now they glow tho.
yeah I loved that D1 armor
@@ShadowDestiny pssst hey it’s me
Whaaat you mean you dont like the toilet paper Hunter from this Season IB set???
@@crotasonoforyx1501 oh.
You.
I remember the D1 IB armor with the flames in the Wolf Heads. Loved it. Even Chroma armor, despite being basic, had some cool features with the ability to alter the glows.
I loved the post apocalyptic vibe of D1, it really felt like humanity was just hanging on by a thread, and every strike and mission we did felt like we were reclaiming humanities old places. D2 lost that feel completely and became another sci-fi shooter.
Tru
Lol maybe y1 D1 but taken king is a guardian power fantasy
I actually kinda like the idea of humanity getting back up on their feet and reclaiming their former glory though. D2 feels like an earned victory
@@maikorage444 I would agree more with you if every titan didn't look super goofy anymore. lol
D1 at the beginning: We are hanging by a thread
At the end of D1: Well that god gun was easy to get
Beginning of D2: Oh no!
D2 now: Everything we touch dies
The Dreadnaught was an awesome destination. I loved the whole prison ship story line, and just how creepy it was there. The court of Oryx was a lot of fun too
Absolutely. I would love if they brought something like that to d2. A huge creepy beautiful mysterious structure or ship instead of a planetary destination. I guess we'll see what witch queen brings...
@@jgmiller804 👁
th-cam.com/video/tGazM0GJMCc/w-d-xo.html destiny 1 although had serious fucking problems is still better than this please save your money or go back to the first cause this is just....WOW the dreadknoght saturn and jupiter are some great highlights not to mention the dark bellow and my personal fav the vault of glass they only had leviathan the only good and balanced raid on D2 and I BELIEVE THEY REMOVED IT!
I just played a bit of D1 and while I love the Dreadnought, I really don't enjoy Court of Oryx. It's very repetetive in a boring way with barely any loot that is worth it. Mostly it's blue stuff or nothing that drops for me.
I like most D2 destination activities more, like Blind Well, Escalation Protocol and things like that
Everything about Taken King was the closest feeling in gaming I've ever gotten to the first time I beat Combat Evolved. I miss it so much.
I miss the old cryptic feel d1 had, just playing and exploring feels completely different in the second game and I really prefer the feel of the 1st
Yeah the first game was about mystery, exploration, and discovery. Now that we’ve scouted out the universe and established a foothold from the first game, the second is more of an action adventure shooter. Not that it’s a bad thing, but the story of the first game had us going out and traveling to new places. The first time we go to planets and establish transmat locations for future outings isn’t something we get in the second game. It’s just not necessary and there isn’t as much mystery. The soundtrack is more heroic in the second game. Grasp of Avarice has a unique feel from the rest of the game because of the music taken from the first game to add that ambiance that most of d2 doesn’t quite have.
@@henrymeyer4667 perfect description
D1 had a way darker tone than D2 does.
D1 had a very cold and mysterious atmosphere. It emphasized that humanity was on the brink of extinction due to the solar system becoming infested with evil/sinister beings. You felt alone.
D2 kinda switched directions and went more star-wars like, where humanity is starting to prosper again and the guardians are out flying around in the system making jokes and beating up bad guys.
D2 is just super colorful and weird while d1 has that grimmy, cool feel
@@zeeboss7553 we might get that tone in or after lightfall
The taken King was the peak of strike design, if you ask me. Shield brothers, Sunless Cell, Fallen S.A.B.E.R, Echo Chamber, and Blighted Chalice. Nowadays strikes (and bosses in general) are mostly just something that brings up an immunity shield at every third of remaining health until you defeat a group of ads.
3:54 It looked so cool for Titans to look like the Warpriest, Hunters to look like the Daughters of Oryx and for Warlock to look like Oryx. It actually felt like you wearing the boss as armor
destiny 1 although had serious fucking problems is still better than this please save your money or go back to the first cause this is just....WOW the dreadknoght saturn and jupiter are some great highlights not to mention the dark bellow and my personal fav the vault of glass they only had leviathan the only good and balanced raid on D2 and I BELIEVE THEY REMOVED IT! th-cam.com/video/tGazM0GJMCc/w-d-xo.html
Yep. It was awesome.
Good thing it's back
@@DarkChibiWeebie can you reply to me I need good looking armor haven't played in 9 months
@@chrisdagoat990 whatever looks good will depend on you my dude. Personally I like armour that has fur on it so I use the pvp armour (forget name but I believe it was phoenix something) and a mix of beyond lights armour on Europa and colour sets that have matching colours
I miss the way it felt to explore Mars, Venus, Earth, and the Moon for the first time. It felt mysterious, and abandoned. Like I was an explorer looking for anything left to take home to a waning civilization. Now, D2 feels like we’ve became the strongest force again and now we’re a bunch of soldiers invading the enemies. I loved how D1 made us feel weak and vulnerable. I still visit d1 to this day because it’s just superior, but D2 is still fun regardless!
3:28 the most annoying thing is that, most of the cool armors are in eververse and not in activities. It is frustrating to have no drip anymore if you don’t pay
TRUEEEE
@@DjentyB well, compared to D2 raid armors, it’s already day/night
I mean... the game doesn't develop itself for free...
@@LyonPercival yeah, we pay the dlcs for that, with raids in it, and I’m complaining about the armors that are in those
@@LyonPercival Every year is a $40USD expansion with an extra $10 a season, not to mention that the original release was $60...
Art direction on armor and weapons were just more tasteful back then. I like(ish) most of what they release in D2, but there's this lived-in quality to many of D1 (especially y1) items that are so much less gaudy than so much of D2's stuff. You mentioned titans. Go look at D1 titan concept art, or just the leveling sets (white quality gear) for titans in D1. That gear looks amazing. I would *love* to have that kind of stuff be available in D2 for transmog.
@@gordonlove5121 Naw d2 armor is usaully ass but d1 armor actually looked good
@@gordonlove5121 Someone must've managed to not look at a single piece of warlock armor in d2, or they haven't seen a single piece of warlock armor in d1 lol
@@gordonlove5121 genuinely awful take. D2 art direction has no focus or consistent theme. So many of the armor sets look like they belong in a mobile game with bow gaudy and over the top they are. There is no thematic style. D1 armor was always consistent with the universe and evoked such a strong style
@@BennyCocoPop LOL That’s why I use the VoG chest armor for Warlock haha. I completely agree. Now warlock armor just feels like “fancy space person” to me with all the popped collars and “divine/elegant” looking gear. I just want some cool looking space wizard warrior armor!
I've only played D2, and all that D1 armor looks amazing. 100% agree with you, I really do wish we had it for transmog.
D1 armor looks like they made sure that any video or screenshot with a bunch of random Guardians in it would look good to a non-Destiny player (so they'd want to play).
It looks like with D2 they don't really care anymore, they figure the playerbase is big enough so it doesn't matter what outsiders think if the players look like ass.
What i thought was cool in Destiny 1 was the enemy variety. There were all these different colours of Fallen and Cabal, there were also some cool boss/miniboss style enemies that have never been re-used.
They weren't just the cabal back then. They were the Dust Giants or the Seige Dancers. The House of King, or House of Wolves.
Now it's just, the 'fallen'. Hurray, wooo!!!! I'm so invested.
@@Touriquette for example they could've used the cabal from the leviathan raid for one of the witch queen story missions
This, this is what I miss the most
@@Touriquette what about house of salvation
@@marcelaventura8151 well if we didn't kill their kell immediately it might been fun to see them have territory desputes with whats left of the other houses. Thing is bungie seems to be just treated them as an additional Fallen enemy type and not as a unique faction unit.
It'd be fun to see Salvation use stasis against the Lucent hive as we attack both like they did with the Scorn. Sadly these units aren't really used outside of their campaigns or strikes.
Can't put my finger on why I like it more, but I thoroughly enjoyed the leveling system in D1 & like hitting each level milestone. At least once per year, I start a new character in D1 to experience the OG "New Light" journey.
Art style, lighting, enemy placement, loot pool, etc, etc
Finally someone else who misses customizing weapon optics. D1 had wayyy more variety in this regard. Also customizing weapon optics kind of make the gun feel more like your own.
Long live the ambush scope! Long live the 1000 Yard!
Don't forget FRONT SIGHTS for iron sighted weapons.
Acog on all rifle type weapons for me. I was PISSED when they re-issued Scathelocke (my favorite year 1 primary) without IS 5 Circle and Mark 10 Glass. Like, Bungie, it isn't enough for you that very few of the new guns don't have sight options? Do you really need to take it away from year 1 re-issues? smdh
For the content model I prefer Forsakens model of having a big expansion followed by 3 seasons rather than the current 4 per year. D1s replayability really carried it through the droughts. As for map rosters, I prefer whichever one has more variety from map to map, before they removed maps it was close but right now D1 takes it
I agree about replayability especially with better updates to the core playlists, vendor refreshes and strike specific loot
I agree, I love how they are doing seasons. But I would prefer a larger more in depth expansion drop, rather then an expansion drop + new season for the start of a new year.
bro, they used to FOCUS on the major expansion, now EVERYONE knows they separate the team to work in s16 and Witch queen at the same time, thats.... counterproductive
I think seasons shouldn't always be a bunch of stories in between expensions. In my opinion, it would be better if it was just 3 content seasons like we have now and 1 season to add things to already existing content or bringing back good D1 stuff. For exemple, the cosmodrome is empty rn, then they should readd stuff from D1 and make it free so that new light isn't just 2-3 D1 reskinned missions. Same for the moon or activities that lack specific content like Strikes. They just need to try something new for D2, go out of their comfort zone and stop making everything good paid with only 3 good things that are worth it a year.
bungie said the reason they stopped the forsaken model was because it was too much for them to handle.
Armor in D1 was next level awesome. I was extremely disappointed when D2 first came out that all armor pieces were basically reskins. Even some of the Eververse sets were reskins or very similar to world drops. Also, the game not starting out with random rolls was very disappointing, especially when you could get easy access to godrolls from vendors. Oh, D1 had way better shaders too.
True d 1 shaders will always be better but d2 organized it better, at least now, when they used to be consumables screw that crap
Also the daily story missions & the secret pathways in some that led to extra / exotic rewards... But just the way you could replay the campaign was also a plus
The secret endings to the daily mission were the most fun when you had down time in D2. I salute you Praedyth.
Yes man, it's such a little thing but being able to replay the Witch Queen campaign is so nice, dunno why that isn't customary
The thing I liked about d1 was the vibe it felt mysterious and magical d1 feels so robotic
Took the words right out my mouth
Agreed
You mean D2 is robotic?
It's not like they're Sci fi shooters or anything, it's not like one of the races are literal fuckin robots and robots are a giant and essential part of the story, no, where did this robotic shit come from?
You said D2 right.
I just want my glowy Trials huinter cape and cat ears back BUNGIE PLZ
SAME 🥺
kitty cloak
Yeah hope they bring something similiar back in the future, and then grind flawless to get a glowing ornament for your’e trials armor 🔥
To bad we are stuck with junkyard parts looking trials armor
IRONHEIDE It’s not supposed to be inspired by Egyptian aesthetic? Don’t get me wrong; I agree with wanting the D1 Scarab armor back, but I could’ve sworn my Titan looks Egyptian when I put on Pyrrhic Ascent.
Here is my two cents on the Destiny 1 expansion style vs the Destiny 2 season content. The reason I like the D1 style more is because I don't have to wait for anything. I can play to my hearts content, and I don't feel like I HAVE to play the game otherwise I'm going to miss something. With seasonal content, if I don't get everything done in a certain amount of time, it goes away, and I miss the opportunity. Meanwhile, five years later I can still go and do literally anything from Destiny 1. The Destiny 2 style of release supports a "I basically only play Destiny" type of player, while the "I want to play Destiny and other games" is supported by Destiny 1.
The seasonsl grind is my least favorite part of D2. I agree with you.
You just broke down modern multiplayer games as a whole tbh. Season passes present a “FOMO” people and it really keeps ppl from jingling more than 1 game at a time
@@ZetaRayZeke I believe there are games with season passes that allow you to work on previous passes once you're done with the current. Sounds more like a failing on the people implementing than the idea itself. It would still be nice to have more non-seasonal content like strike specific loot.
@Duke Nukem (real) Nope, bugie said that is not gonna remove the older expansion.
It's also better for people like me. To the surprise of many, outdoorsy people can also be avidly enthralled by the lore and gameplay of a hugeass mmo like Destiny. So trying to balance working on cars, camping, working out, and Destiny 2's short content window can be a real challenge.
Especially when just trying to be honest with myself. I have it in me to ABSOLUTELY no-life this game, but frankly I don't like myself as much whe nI spend all my free time playing video games. The dopamine cycle overwhelms me. I have to force myself to only play the game in short bursts ("This week, I'll play D2, but after that it's back to business") because otherwise I will atrophy, grow lazy, and ultimately let go of frankly much more important things. I missed out on a bunch of Nightfall content, the freaking Pirate season which sucks because holy crap that looked so fun, and a bunch of the content from the first season of Shadowkeep. I wouldn't go back and no-life the game during those times if I could, because I did more fulfilling things in the meantime, but I wish I could go do that content now, but I can't.
I always feel better playing D1, the atmosphere is a lot different I almost feel like I'm inside the game
D2 feels messy to me, I just started end of 23 into 24.
Spot-on with so much of this, especially the titan armor. As a titan main I really despise the bulky shoulder space knight aesthetic in D2. I'd love to see some more space-scavenger and "tactical/future solider" type gear available for transmog.
are there are shoulders that don’t suck besides dreambane
Nah all male titan shoulders are just dogshit
I mean. There’s other titan armors in D2 that are great. You don’t gotta use the 3 that have massive shoulder pads. We have Transmog for a reason.
@@whisperofthebookworm5341 yea almost every titan arms fit good to female titans. Theres so little options for males
@@whisperofthebookworm5341 all of the “slim” titan arms look tacky as hell. D1 arms looks tactical like you would actually wear it if you were in a gun fight.
I generally prefer the shaders in D1. In D2 are way too many super bright, weirdly coloured ones. Of course taste differs.
Another important feature: sparrow horns!
And I loved that in strikes you could face different kind of enemies. For example the taken version of the strike.
Dude same I also hate how misleading most of the shader cards are too like jacarina for example in the shader card it has black, white, grey, and silver but when you apply it there's random blue parts on the armor and weapons like what the hell Bungie?
Ok lets put this shader on.
Proceeds too make the cloth cape carbon fiber, the metal matte black exect for one random bit of chrome, and the cloth detailing and pants shiny metallic gold
I mean it’s mostly because D2 has a higher variety of Shaders. There are still really good ones like Abyssinian gold and Jacarina. In D1 we didn’t have nearly as many and most people just used the black one.
That's one thing that D2 completely broke and then fixed to some degree: the early D2 shader scheme with consumable shaders was a disaster that made tinkering with your Guardian's appearance actively unpleasant. You'd just hoard these things and *everyone* preferred the D1 shader system. It's much better now.
@@whisperofthebookworm5341 not to mention a shader applied to the whole armour set, so there was no mix n match if you didn't like how the shader applied to any particular piece.
I'm miss 3 of coins farming, heavy ammo synth, and when the gunsmith could reroll perks on your weapon for motes of light and glass needles. Also the tower space or the iron lord's mountain we're way better than D2 tower. Also the dark blade strike, that was such a different feeling for a strike once you get to the boss room.
God i miss the "mountain of wolves".... everything about it was so perfect
Strike-specific loot?
That sounds amazing! As someone who mainly does strikes and not much else I'd love something like that!
do you want someone to play with? i just started playing again about a week ago
@@onlinetoday840 I'm fine for now, but thanks for asking!
Oh man you’re a D2 starter ? Bro you just had to be there, D1s feel and atmosphere was something else. I remember me and my cousins would literally run the same exact strike to get that strike specific loot but w a godly roll. It’s what made the endless grind fun tbh. Good times man :,)
D1: here’s an iron banner with a wolfskin cloak
D2: you are now barnacle bill
Dude I know iron banner gear has been trash since the year 1 ornaments that you can’t even obtain anymore.
I miss strike specific loot so much. I remember I spent so long grinding for Baron's Ambition. Probably ran that specific strike itself 50 times when I was lucky to get it, but I didn't care because the strikes were still fun (with the exception of the undying mind). Even after I had finally gotten Baron's Ambition I still enjoyed playing the strike playlist whenever my friends weren't online. Now since they chose not to bring that over I feel no reason to play strikes other than to complete bounties when needed. To be honest I can't stand strikes anymore ever since d2 came out. I feel like the strikes are just not enjoyable compared to d1. Not only that but in d1 when you would play the playlist you would get a chance to get any strike in the game. Now if feels like every week the playlist rotates between the same 3 strikes and only those 3 so you end up running those specific 3 over and over and over.
I want my God roll mindbenders ambition back
I remember how mind numbing it was grinding undying mind for an entire weekend, but I really wanted a god roll imago loop. Probably ran it like 60+ times until I got one with lucky bullet and firefly, after that I never dropped that thing until I switched to D2
The biggest thing I miss from Destiny 1 is difficultly. Destiny 2 for the past 4-5 years has been significantly easier than the first game, though the Witch Queen DLC on legendary is the first time I actually felt the game was a challenge. I really hope to see more difficultly in content at your own choosing, giving more powerful rewards to the guardians that want to try the challenge.
Skolas in y1 was seriously brutal and I still feel like it’s hard to find anything that difficult in D2 and I loved the challenge
2:43 I fully agree with this personally. My favourite helmet and arms for Titan came from the strike-specific loot
Just the idea of ripping Alak-Hul’s helmet off his head and wearing it myself and stealing the shield-brother’s arm blade made me feel so cool, just wearing trophies of big bosses I killed
For me the best part of destiny 1 was the grind. Everything was more rare. Exotics felt exotic even legendaries were hard to get. Also the random exotics rather than exotic quests
I don't agree with the random exotics over exotic quests. Most exotic quests in d2 are just inferior to the ones from d1. Only decent one I'd say is Dead Man's Tale which would have played so well into a storyline that they just didn't expand on.
@@Ethan-qy3cf I see your point but the random exotics is what made end-game content relevant like why else would I do a nightfall every week staying up all night waiting for reset? so I can get ghallarhorn :) I feel like the exotic quests from turning in bounties was more than enough spoon-fed exotics, other than that you had to do the raid or nightfall or just grind crucible all day it was truly rare and 'exotic'. Without stuggle you can't truly feel bliss. But to each his own of course.
“ random exotics rather then exotic quests “ means they want u to play their game more.. more hours played they could lie and say “ people are playing our game at least 8 hours a day” on the next E2 or whatever ..
Random drops is what kept me playing D1 even if I knew it was recycled content. D2 it’s the same thing but not worth playing once you have it. It sounds crazy but it somehow just worked in d1. Quest were done right in D1. The fusion rifle and the pulse rifle are the ones I remover the most. D2 quest just seemed rush and no thought put into them. Don’t get me started on how much better the raid gear was in d1
Destiny 1 had a very straightforward system, where you would progress in rarities. Legendaries were actually super rare to obtain. Exotics were incredibly hard to obtain but still rewarding. Destiny 2 changed it and you just kinda start with rare and legendary gear and they drop all of the time from everywhere, same with exotics. I’d like to see them return to the old system.
I loved playing PvE in Destiny 1, doing playlist strikes over and over, it was fun and rewarding, because you could play with any weapon or class, but in Destiny 2 the only rewarding strike type is the one you need to try as hard as possible (GMs and Nightfalls), play extremelly carefully, using a very specific loudout (because Champions are there) and class, so its boring, stressfull and you are also OBLIGATED to do it cause there is no other good source of Ascendant Shards in the game.
Strikes are half the reason I quit destiny
Champions are such a lame gimmick, theres much better ways to make strong enemy types that isnt forcing you to use counter armor mods for them -_-
While I think the map screen in D2 is more conveinet, I loved the focus on the open world design in D1. every new expansion I was so exicted to learn the new patrol area and learn it's secrets, and playenough in the area to know it like the back of my hand. I'll always remember the clacified fragment grind for the touch of malice in D1!
Coming back to this video from a recent Twitter post, and its really neat to see what changes have been made to the game since this was made. Like they vendor loot pools being targeted to their playlist items. As well the change to subclass customization since then. I do still wish we had more new crucible maps more frequently.
SRL was so much fun and one of my favorite armor sets, especially that Hunter cloak.
I preferred D1 PvP maps because it was so much rarer to be spawn killed while in D2 it happens constantly
Bruh. Did you not play D1 lmao. You were spawnkilled CONSTANTLY.
@@whisperofthebookworm5341 I've been playing since the first beta and I wasn't spawn killed nearly as much as in D2
What do you guys mean, we still have most of the pvp maps
I definitely do love the old D1 Subclass customization, and would certainly prefer to have it back instead of the Aspect and Fragment system, but i definitely think that the Aspect system for light abilities is certainly a step in the right direction.
I agree :D
@@ShadowDestiny i got a heart and a reply from Shadow Destiny himself! Talk about friggin AWESOME!
@@EarCat w
I think your misremembering some things… Most of the old subclass trees were super minor stuff that didn’t change much about the subclass. With the aspect and fragment system you can really change the abilities and ways to play.
@@whisperofthebookworm5341 aside from the fact that there was Keyhole for golden gun, invisibility and intrinsic quickdraw for Blade Dancer, Dodges for Nightstalker, among others. Not to mention the Whole 'casting your Radiance from death' for Radiance? So many things that completely changed how the super functioned.
10:00 the subclass quests gave me goosebumps just hearing about it oml
As a person that came back after Stasis had been out for over a year, Stasis is the most mind-numbing, soul-destroying grind ever released in a game.
Have tried Strand? Maybe not as bad of a grind, but my god I hate the forced platform if you have to do with it equipped.
From D1 I also loved the vendors having a large assortment of weapons to buy (twice as much as banshees weekly inventory) and a dlc color scheme for weapons and armor was also great
I think the issue with destiny 2’s pvp maps is that they were only designed for 4v4
100%
A lot are also too small for the increased movement speed
@@keithscott4013 I didn’t even think of that!
Yeah I often find 6v6 way too overcrowded.
Honestly I feel like D2 just doesn’t have many PvP maps to play on especially if you’re doing a private match with friends. In D1, they had plenty of maps to play on, they may have been too big, but overall I like the fact that they have more maps
The amount of love that you put into this video is really refreshing. Not only are you digging into old features with serious detail, but you're also weighing the pros and cons of them, and considering what D2 has done better.
The Sunless Cell is still my favorite strike of all-time, but I was absolutely delighted to see Alak-Hul back in D2 with a ghost of his own.
I was a bit disapointed that we didn't fight Alak-Hul in the pitch black darkness of the Sunless Cell in D2. Having him dissapear and show up right in your face was terryfing. The only source of light being cursed thralls was an amazing touch
The strike's specific loot was really something I was grinding in D1, now in d2 as soon a I reach the level cap I just stop doing strikes, the blue loot is just useless. And the armors were so much better in d1 aswell.
I want exotics to feel more exotic. Like xur with his strange coins from D1 you could really get like 1 exotic every week or two. When I first started my warlock I got 4 exotics in one day just off world drops. Raid exotics are the only thing that bring that exotic value
It’s like legendary weapons they don’t feel that special whereas in d1 you got exited every time one dropped
@@keithscott4013 Yeah you got excited because they restricted you getting items you paid for. I shouldn't have to grind my life away for a yellow gun.
@@ExtraordinaryFate then use a legendary gun cuz an exotic should take a bit of time to get at least one
@@lil_dick_girl_666 Not necessarily. I'm all for it taking a bit of time to get, but people playing for months and never getting an exotic they want? Kind of bullshit.
@@ExtraordinaryFate That's why Xur exists, my guy.
The biggest thing I miss was the choice players had in their loadouts. You could run any weapon with any role in pvp/pve and it would only slightly affect your performance, as the biggest thing that determined success was your skill and strategy, not your loadout.
I personally just like how mysterious D1 felt with like its environments and stuff like that, it felt like there could be some new area you had never seen before right around the corner
I would love to see factions come back with a reworked pursuit system, and in a more prevalent way.
Maybe make the shaders the legend reward for rank resets; and then make a new one each season like the other Playlist vendors.
My comment got liked, my life is complete
We don't have good rewards from zavala and another traders i think we need back quest weapons for activities like old crucible quest on Mountain top.
The Factions scattered after Lakshmis’ death :0
@@egronomia1067 You mean the bullshit quest for Mountain Top? Please no.
Factions need to come back like in D1
I just remembered something: in D1 there was a weekly heroic story quest. I liked to play those for some legendary rewards and as a kind of flashback. That obviously can't work in D2 with the content vault and there are the empire hunts that are kind of that.
There's also a similar thing for Witch Queen missions. So the potential is there, it's just not being used.
Don't forget the refresh on strikes in D1. Even the old strikes had new themes, you had a chance to fight a Siva or Taken version of the boss at the end which changed how you approached that content. D2 had some different dialog and on occasion you'd have a slightly different experience in the strike (Exodus Crash where you'd fight Vex while capping the plate instead of just Fallen) but BL took those alternate strikes away and we've never had an alternate boss at the end.
Your videos are unique and fun to watch. Keep up the good work.
Thanks, will do!
Seeing videos like this make me wish I had been able to play D1 when it first came out. I only got into Destiny with the Forsaken campaign in D2. I’d love things like sparrow racing, factions, and fully customizable class abilities! Stasis is cool and all, but Solar is my favorite element, so having some extra customization would be really nice! Also still sad my favorite weapons and destinations got sunset, but that’s not exactly D1 related…
Destiny 1 is still kicking, my friend. I log in now and again and there's always people playing. You can pick up the whole game for $60 and get everything from start to finish, all strikes, missions, raids, everything, for one price, and it'll last until Bungie pulls the plug on the servers. Which they might not even be able to do since I've heard the first game has profits going to Activision, which is why it never goes on sale since the two split up. Personally, I think Destiny 1 is more clean than 2. Destiny 2 feels like there was a 3 in there somewhere they didn't make, right around Beyond Light, actually. 2 feels like it should have ended with Shadowkeep, teasing the pyramids and all that shit, then 3 boots up with us getting dark stasis powers to show off how things are different now.
Anyway, tangent over, Destiny 1 still exists and it feels a lot different from 2. It's active and you can find all kinds of people still playing it, so it's worth picking up if you have the cash. Just be warned it'll definitely drag you away from Destiny 2 grind.
I remember reading an article years before Destiny was out and it was being hyped. One of the things that was said was that players could get in their ship and go to other planets. I always wished that, the player could actually control the ship rather than just a loading screen. I would prefer if we could just buy DLC and scrap season passes. One payment that includes everything would be better. I miss sparrow racing.
You can still just pay once at the start of the year. It’s called the deluxe edition. Comes with everything that releases that year.
The most important part of the seasonal model is to include more content and more story.
Compare the beginning of Taken King with the entire year of Beyond Light or Forsaken. BL and Forsaken had so much more content and weapons.
Not to mention we get 2 raids, 4 sets of armor ornaments, 2-3 dungeons, and tons of exotics.
@@whisperofthebookworm5341maybe but bungie will just take your content away if they feel like it, I bought D2 forsaken, curse of osiris and warmind, I literally can't play any of that anymore
As a D2-only player (pure PC gamer, started in Forsaken), all the D1 footage you showed in this video gives me the same sense I get when I watch an upcoming game trailer!
Unfortunately I guess I'll never get to play it.
Tbh if they ported D1 to PC in its entirety, I think my friends and I would have a blast playing through all of it.
the pvp maps with vehicles is something I miss a lot. I felt very halo-y, but coming off of reach it felt amazing
The thing about factions in D2 is (in the lore) the were chased out of the city, soooo they kinda don't exist anymore.
I mean, we might get chased off the planet eventually....
Who knows, we might meet D.O. in space at some point.
@@jbobko9291 a social place for each faction would be interesting. With quests to work for their benefits if you choose them
@@jbobko9291 Dead Orbit were my bois. Still are. Heck, if the only reason you are alive is the giant space ball which keeps wanting to leave, or psychotic undead hamsters armed to the teeth with hive teeth, I'd bail on Earth too.
I might be the only one, but I prefer D1’s engram system rather than D2’s. Just the amount of loot you would get and you could save up legendaries for when you wanted to decode them.
Only thing i dont miss about it was exotic engrams could be decoded into legendaries... that was always a kick in the balls and felt like wasted effort for grinding it out
I recently logged into my D1 account and forgot how much I missed my armor, it's funny because I unintentionally run the same exotic armor that I did in D1 but I had a whole taken set as well. I absolutely loved the taken design and would love a return! Not to mention the Zhalo Supercell(now Riskrunner) and Khvostov- love to see a reintroduction of my favorite exotic one day
That music in at the start of the video... I haven't heard it in years, it brought a tear to my eye alongside countless memories from 3k+ hours at D1... I miss those days...
I miss the difficulty level of D1. Strikes felt way harder even at higher light levels than D2. I remember getting to the hive ogre on the moon and spending a good 20-30 minutes trying to kill that fucker no matter how high damage I had did. As well as how difficult it became when the the knights became involved. Or when you were facing the twins or the cabal general.
Because the bosses were harder now in d2 they spam you with low lvl enemy's simulating difficulty
Facts bro, Heroic Strikes in D1 were bangers and involving
The Shield Brothers Strike is the best Strike in all Destiny, fight me.
The design of both bosses and how one became more powerful if the other was killed was amazing. I feel the Strike wouldn't have been the same had it been on any of the D2 destinations or just simply Mars, for example. The Dreadnaught is my favorite destination ever.
Have you never done a grandmaster lmao.
@@whisperofthebookworm5341 Grandmasters aren't challenging, they're slow, boring, restricted
All they do is limit your Light level, if the only way you can make an activity "difficult" is by forcefully putting players at a numerical/statistical disadvantage, there's a problem with the core game and its sandbox
I will never forget how good it felt, unlocking lightning warlock in D1, the call to power and our vanguard leader whispering in our ear to unleash it. Ahhhhh sweet harmony
I still miss being able to unlock "true forms" for raid armour in rise of iron as apposed to universal ornaments. It made raid armour feel special and stood out as far more unique, having incredible designs and effects unique to the armour and raid, while providing more replay value to raids beyond weapons in the form of tokens which allowed you to unlock the effects on this armour and while the armour effects were exclusive to the sets, the tokens used on the armour were applicable to ALL the raid armour regardless of which raid you earned them from. But above all, it felt like you were upgrading your armour's appearance rather than just changing it, and yea ik that feels like a small thing to prioritise, but it's important because it keeps the armours theme while still changing the armours appearance but also undeniably improving it.
i just shook my head in a nod this whole video bc everything you said is so true man. great video and nice nostalgic trip!
One thing I really miss is starting out weak. I loved getting stronger as you continued playing the story and unlocked more perks for your subclass. Really gave the sense of mastering it. Not a fan of how new lights these days automatically get the full power of their light subclasses.
When D2 first launched, you did have to level up the light subclass (jumps, class abilities, and grenades as well as the top and bottom tree one node at a time). It was just removed a few years in.
@@Sora623898 Yeah, I think we can actually divide Destiny at this point into three eras: D1, early D2, and New Light, which completely changed how new players enter into the game. I understand the reasons for it, and the revamps of D2 actually fixed a lot of things that D2 broke (shaders, for instance--I forget when the awful consumable shaders went away). But it did remove some drama to no longer have the game resting on the Red War storyline.
(We could maybe add The Taken King and The Witch Queen as further subdivisions to split it into more major eras, since both of those expansions brought in a LOT of excellent new content. In both cases, they sucked me into the game again after I'd drifted away from it.)
I’m just gonna say it, give us twilight garrison. As someone who plays d1 a lot, there is no reason titans can’t get twilight garrison back as an exotic, since it was only really strong with Titan skating. Also bring back wrath of the machine
omg please bring back twilight garrison :( i literally never took it off in D1 it was so fun. and in D2 titans feel so sluggish in pvp, compared to warlocks with icarus dash and dodging hunters, so this would be a great addition. and it would make me main titan again, i miss it
Is there still a good daily population in d1 currently?
ah man, I've heard titans are struggling in the movement department lately. Twilight could go a long way to fixing that! I debating including that in this video haha
@@MooMooTheWolf pretty decent, yeah
@@Mountaintop69420 Well shoot, then in that case I might have to boot up my PS4 for the first time in a long time and take that game for a spin
Sparrow Racing would be a nice seasonal. Pair it up with Valentines day, a couple of weeks of competitive and co-op racing missions / race games. Imagine having to do time challenges with a partner, handing over the baton, they zoom off and you have to defend a base while they race around collecting energy and bring it back.
Pretty sure I already watched this a while ago. But I'm happy that some of the things have been done better. I personally like the aspects and fragments even if the old system was more OP, Void 3.0 has been amazing so far, can't wait to see what they do with the other classes.
I hope they bring factions back, even though they are kinda dead now it would be cool to see entirely new factions. Even if they weren't the most important thing in D1 it was cool to get a couple extra loot drops and a lot of the weapons for FWC and a couple from DO were very memorable and they were the perfect extra bump, especially with getting new rolls each week, so many wormwood and the wail checks.
D2 has a lot yet to do, but I'm happy with how it's going right now
I agree, I think they're doing a great job with D2. Super excited for the future!
Optic options were actually my favorite thing in Destiny, it lets me choose whether if I want to play from range or close quarters. One things for certain, I don't know why the vanilla Scathelocke had optic options but the updated version of it does not. It literally bothers me on why Bungie didn't do that to most of their updated guns.
Bungie removed different optics as the community would generally only pick the best optic to use. It wasn’t worth making all the different models if only 1 was really being used.
@@Cheoo That's still their fault. Tiny maps and scopes that were left unbuffed. Not even just talking about pvp either.
@@Cheoo that was also because of less customization of the gun itself as well
I really love having scope options on D2 weapons (which is unfortunately rare), super agree
Idk how most players feel about this but I miss “early” D2 before forsaken, when factions where still there and many of the activities where challenging for newer players and the grind on every character to the soft power levels and power levels weren’t weirdly high, and as a D2 before D1 player I miss my hunter dominating in crucible with weird-ass weapons I randomly found in a strike or as world loot. And I miss the aesthetics of early D2
D2 was close enough in this early stage to not be d1, but to feel like something else entirely. Sadly the devs didn't listen, and instead built off of the "something new entirely" ideal. This was until the vets started to see how broken it was becoming and the death of cayde gave us a reason to care again. My care for d2 is fading. Ever slowly. All of the people I played d1 with every day told me how much they hated it. Eventually those friendships burnt out. Sadly using those weird guns on those weird maps is what made the game worth playing, doing strikes, being rewarded for my time, or watching my friends get the weapon I wanted in real time in crucible all made me keep playing. In d2 that magic is lost or changed. I'm hoping that with the witch queen, some of this early magic returns, and that the witch queen brings more reason to build different friendships as the ones before have faded with my enjoyment for this game. I wish you luck guardian, and I hope you enjoy the years playing more than ever before. Eyes up! 💪👻
I really miss the d1 armour I remember grinding out so much for the taken armour and oryx raid loot they were so good
Strike specific loot was much better in D1. The armor was dope!
I put 6,000 hours in d1, it will always be my favorite game. They need to bring out a pc version on the 10 year anniversary.
I would prefer pc remaster of d1 over current d2, it would be so cool
I do miss the armor sets that D1 had, there are numerous armor pieces from D1 that I want wear so badly in D2, like the Taken King hunter subclass cloaks. As well as Sparrow racing, that really needs to come back
I remember when Wrath of the Machine came out. It's my favorite DLC for any game to ever release. And when they added the age of triumph ornaments for the SIVA gear, I grinded and grinded until my 13 year old self got worn out. And yeah, I really was 13 when the age of triumph came out. I even started D1 in beta. I miss those days so much. When I had nothing but video games and school to worry about. My brother told me about the game and I gave it a try on his 360 and I was instantly hooked. I remember getting Thorn in the beta lol. Then proceeded to never get it in the full release. Not until like two days ago on D2. I really love Destiny. And I love Bungie. Halo and Destiny are two of the very few games I have true nostalgia for. I wish I could load up my Xbox and load up D1, but my Xbox One is over half my age lmao, it doesn't even connect to the internet anymore. All I have are the memories and the friends I made along the way. I just hope that someday, before Bungie inevitably shuts down the servers for D1, I can give it just one more spin. The game is so special to me. Destiny will always be in my heart. Thanks Bungie, for making my childhood have a few bright spots.
D1 felt like I was exploring the unknown and was on this wild adventure. D2 feels like the whole path has been laid out for me
A couple of great things about SRL was that it counted as pvp, meaning you could finish a few pvp bounties while doing SRL bounties. Another thing which was broken, was being able to boost other peoples SRL bounties and stuff, especially in private matches. I do miss my rubber ducky and Taken main menu intro noise Sparrow horns. Ahhhh goood times
I was terrible at Sparrow racing but I loved it anyway. It's a mystery why it hasn't come back--maybe just too much of a development chore since it's such a different game mode.
@@MattMcIrvin its a very neesh gamemode. A hidden gem if you will. Its not wildly loved (i definitely did) but heavily requested as well. Bungie definitely should bring this back like they do for Guardian Games.
As much as I love Destiny 2 armors and weapon designs, I miss the D1 styles that just feel so iconic to the identity of Destiny. Whereas D2 is more Space Medieval lately and the guns feel more 'down to earth' modern, the D1 style was more Futuristic Space Military. I think veterans will understand how those pulses and autos just feel/sound different before.
+ the og soundtrack
I want feel like I'm in a space fantasy game, not a knight trying to colonize mars! (I miss my Soul stealer's claw with 66 bullets and feeding frenzy. I loved my Grasp of Malok, you were one of the few acceptable pulses in my eyes, everything pales in comparison. Hawksaw was cool too.)
i think the exotics in D1 both weapons and armor felt like they were truly special they did give that awesome look and feel that makes you want to equip that specific piece of gear as your 1 exotic slot..
One of my favorite things to do in D1 is to replay missions like regicide and the iron tomb for the nostalgia
regicide bangs hard
D1 just had more replayability. The D2 seasonal content and game loops kind of replace the core playlists. I'd like to see a return to the D1 style content updates; the content/expansions just felt more meaningful.
D1 maps were 10x better and the class specific weapons were amazing! Armor looks were way better in D1 as well! I still play D1 with my son and he started on D2 and he even says he wishes more people played D1 because it just feels so much better!
Is calling nostalgia
I diagree with class specific weapons
@@ROKY-ib9ev I started from d2, from beta of d2, to be precise, and I never was satisfied with the game as much, as when I tried d1 a year ago, on fat ps4 at that. Colors, music, the general vibe of the game just feels so much better.
@@rezzy3964 is calling nostalgia
@@rezzy3964 when’s the last time you played D2 tho.
I loved the Crucible mode were you can jump into Cabal Interceptors or Fallen pikes. You know, that all-out war mode with Vehicles and big map. Glorious days
I don't miss the content droughts at all. I much prefer the Destiny 2 seasonal drip.
I remember during D1 days seeing so many Facebook comments on the Destiny page about how there wasn't enough content to cover months and months of gameplay. I don't think anyone was truly ever happy about it. Obviously, you can't ever cater to everyone's desires but I think they made the right call on the seasons in D2.
yeah personally I agree with you. Sometimes timegated content feels bad, but I like the seasonal content drops overall, always makes the game interesting
Personally, I'm the opposite. I despise the seasonal bullshit. No, I'm not paying fucking $10 for a couple months worth of story quests. I paid $40 for the fucking expansion, what do you mean all of this lore is tucked behind an additional fee? I wouldn't mind it if all I was missing was some cosmetics and exotics, shit I could walk away from the game and pick up later, but knowing there's some cutscenes happening that "build on the story to the next big expansion" actually makes me regret getting back into Destiny 2. I bought the Legacy Pack, was really involved in Shadowkeep, then I go tossed into the mission to retrieve the Drifter's cargo, which led to a scene about chasing down pirates, but I couldn't find any more quest markers on that. So I looked it up and was *instantly pissed off* to find that storyline was trapped behind a paywall, and I could never ever access the previous installations. So now the game just randomly goes, "Oh, hey, Varisk on the frozen planet." Why's he there? What happened? Wasn't he with the queen in the reef? Oh, Bungie deleted that location and every quest tied to that, so I'll NEVER know why he's here and missing an arm unless I watch a two hour TH-cam video covering it all, at which point, why am I paying literally ANY money? I ain't doing two hour long raids with a clan, that's for damn sure.
Destiny 1 didn’t get rid of a bunch of destinations
Lol
Chris Proctor said on DMB podcast that they are moving away from scopes because there is typically a best in class that the player base decides is best and then all the developer time (making models, testing, etc.) was largely wasted. Basically that time could be better spent making new stuff rather than scopes
I preferred the more grounded feel of D1 weapons; gun designers (hakke, omolon, *snort* viest) had their own standardised version of a piccatinny rail system.
D2? All guns are unique, and the sights are baked into the model. You can paint it different colours, but that's it. No player preference here.
As for certain scopes being meta, that was entirely due to how encounter ranges kept on shrinking as the game progressed. No one is going to use a 4-8x scope in a knife fight Todd!
I don't like that justification, that's just how communities work in games like this. It's still happening with current D2 features, people have, are, and will always seek out the best options no matter what.
You missed the different encounters in strikes. Sometimes in like the "Nexus" strike you usually fight fallen and vex, but sometimes you actually fought taken. And within some bosses would actually be taken versions. Or the Archon Priest strike (My favorite one) you could fight vex or even get the house of wolves fallen instead which had a tank and heavy pikes, hell the priest himself could be taken as well. There was a lot of variety I missed in D1 strikes they always had some sort of differences. I think if that happened it would make things more interesting especially since champions would vary every time. Except for higher nightfalls that lock your gear they'll remain the same.
In D1 I actually made a second account in my ps4 to have a reason to play even more destiny per week, with d2 I really couldn't be bothered to keep up with my characters outside of my warlock unless my friends needed them
I miss the way warlock armor used to function and look. The shoulders were part of the arms, like the other two classes, and not the chest pieces. We also had more armor and robe looking chest pieces, which looked way better than most of what we have now.
Warlocks have plenty of armor and robes in D2. You can look through all of them in collections. Plus the ones you earned in the cosmetic/ornament screen.
@@whisperofthebookworm5341 I have, do you play on a female warlock or something?
@@whisperofthebookworm5341 also none of that armor is separated from the arms.
Great video, even though u made me miss D1 real bad 😆 theres a lot more that I miss from D1 than I thought. I just wish the dev team would watch this and take some notes.
Man, I had forgotten a lot of this stuff from D1. A lot of very good constructive criticism for stuff they can bring back from D1. I hope the devs see this and pay attention.
Honestly, I agree with most of what you’re saying. But with the sparrow racing, I think they could go for a mariokart kind of thing, where items fit the universe. Like a taken axion bolt, or hive trap. Maybe even a grenade launcher. Titan armor is lacking in D2, which hurts as a Titan main. I was too young to understand the customizable sights and subclasses when I played D1 so so took that for granted, and I would like those back.
I see the advantages and disadvantages of both games. Good vid Shadow!
thank you very much sir :)
I noticed the armor sets in D1 where slimmer. Even one of my friends deleted there D2 male warlock and titan and made them female just to make them look more slimmer.
the thing with whoever is creating these d2 armors is hearing we want “slimmer” armor but whenever they give us slim armor it looks basic and tacky like they have no life in them. the d1 armor for all classes looked super tactical and just looked right
@@younghusk5057 its because they were all designed by Isaac Hanaford, and then they decided to go with whatever retarded art director they have now
I agree with the cartooney look to some of the armour. I miss the almost salvaged look to the D1 armour like you actually found it in an old golden age ruin
One of the things I mis most is the hive weapons like the ones you could get from king's fall
I just really liked that design and in d2 we now have the thorn and maybe the osteo striga
The best armor from D2s raids HAS to be the garden armor. Fits the theme sooo well
True
I loved the garden armor. It looks so faded and old. The growing leaves made it different. I feel it didn't do well, and that may be part of why this faded look might not return
I liked the D1 PvP maps WAY more because they were made for 6v6 the most D2 maps are still 4v4 maps from Year 1
Its so good to rewatch this and see that a lot of this were adressed of the course of the year
kinda crazy yeah!
i started with D2, picked up D1 earlier last year. i was honestly so much more captivated by D1 and it's not a question imo, even down to the artstyle and general atmosphere. just wish i could've played earlier
Destiny 1 never made me put it and not want to return, I still go into D1 every now again, but as for destiny 2, I had stopped playing with New light, and tried to come back, but Bungie has got out of hand making me pay for everything little update that comes out. I have not played D2 in about 5 - 6 months now. Destiny 1 just felt so much more fun and rewarding.
I’m kind of sad you didn’t mention this, but the music. The MUSIC. D1s soundtrack was incredible and infinitely better than D2 which is pretty generic 90% of the time.
Ok, that's a bit of an exaggeration.
The entire Beyond Light soundtrack is golden and stuff like Shell of What Was, Temptation, The Sanctified Mind, Look Within, Grasp of Avarice, Penumbra, Prophecy II, and more that I can't get of the top of my head.
@@balxnced2 d1 music still bettee
Wanted to revisit this video, because a miss the old things in d1 2014-2016, it was an amazing time, and I'm thankful I was born when I was.