@@MindBodySoulOk Are there any papers on the actual efficiency vs area? I'd really like to see its output values in comparison to modern super-efficient cells.
In May of last year a manufacturing firm started working with the technology. www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2019/05/9-8-efficient-transparent-solar-glass-product-clearview-power-finds-global-glass-manufacturer/ The problem is pioneering technology that required big upfront investment before you see any savings takes decades sometimes before its applicable on large scale
8 years isn't that much when it comes to turning technology that's still being researched into commercially available product. Scientists and engineers love to say things like "this is happening now" in order to raise excitement, but if scientists and engineers are the only ones saying it, then it'll be a while before it's happening.
This is 8 years old. Has it been deployed on buildings yet? If so, how much power was captured? Ideally, the goal would be ample energy to power the needs of the building.
I have been thinking about this concept for so long. I am so glad that this is being developped. I wish that I would be able to use this on my house. Congratulations on this discovery!
Of course the real trick with most technologies like this is the cost and materials of making the solar cells. How much to make a building worth of windows like this? How much electricity would it generate, therefore how much would it save per year? How long until the windows pay for themselves?
In the written article the 'professor' admits they are 5% efficient (I doubt in reality they are even that ) ....this combined with the fact that that windows are not orientated to the sun , would give and efficiency of about 1% .... Normal panels have 17% efficiency .... there is no way these would be competitive compared to standard PV panels .... the 'professor' probably knows this , but want's to keep the funding coming to this project ... keeps him employed for a few years before the truth finally comes out
Putting aside the enormous cost of replacing every window with a custom solar panel for a minute, the comparison might be how much energy could be collected in a (pick a number here) 10-story building this way verses using roof-top panels. If your 17:1 ratio is correct and there is 100x more surface area then conceptually (not financially) this might make sense. Buildings shade each other in a city so only some faces would be eligible for collecting energy. For a tall building this may have potential if sponsored by an entity willing to underwrite the huge cost.
My main question is cost. I can see this as useful, In addition to or as an enhancements to an existing solar power system. But then comes the question of how long do they last, What will their cost be, etc. As a stand alone system, I don't see it working out too well. As a "booster system"... Maybe. And I have seen claims now of 9.8% efficient transparent panels.
They are around 10% (at panel relative zenith). i agree, to improve the efficiency they have to build starting from the house. The retrofit is a terrible idea. Plus the problem of the costs are very important to consider. But keeping up the research is a good thing. They should think more on the business model, or maybe they have one already...(but judging from that idea....mmmmhhhhh)
@@jeanclaudewellness8274 "They are around 10%" I think that might be for partially transparent solar panels. Apparently there are different degrees of transparency being tried out--which makes good sense. If you're talking about a building that would tint its windows so the sun doesn't give too much heat (greenhouse effect), partially transparent windows would fit the bill perfectly.
this technology is still far yet for mass production , expect it to come when graphene technology is on industrial level production my estimate is 10-20 years.
It'll never go into production, because of the almost 90° angle towards the sun. At best they get out 10% of what the standard panels get out, while being much more expensive because there is no mass production.
@@the-quintessenz even worse, only using UV- and IR-light for electricity production limits the gain even further. Most of the energy from the sun comes to us in the visible spectrum. And it doesn't stop there, if you use a solar cell that is able to use IR-light you lose most of the energy of the UV-light to heat. You would have to use to diffrent cells stacked on each other, which would makes this more expensive.
I would recommend using this technology to stack solar panels on top of each other to produce more electricity per square foot in a solar farm. This would lead to cost saving in terms of the land to energy ratio.
Wouldn't work, transparent panels capture energy from the solar spectrum that we can't see, so the "second" solar panel wouln't recieve any of these energy as it was already "absorbed" by the first one. It could only work if the second panel were and opaque one, but then we rather use only that one, since is more efficient
@@agariztia I guessed it would since the first solar panel would not absorb all the energy from the spectrum. It would only absorb a portion of it as light passed through it.
I wonder how efficient they are. After all they only cover around 1/3 of the spectrum. Current systems have ~150Wpeak/m² which would be 50Wpeak for these and then there's the fact that they won't reflect all the UV rays to the absorber because some goes through and windows are rarely standing in an optimal angle to the sun. I would say it's perhaps 15W that you can get out on average or 10% of what is possible on the roof. On the cost side they would be roughly the same price as the standard modules, because on the one side, they are simpler to install or repair, but then again, they need more complex wiring. So that's a zero sum game there. Then, the standard modules are already in full swing on the market with reliable price-value increases, for which a big factory would need to be built first for the transparent one's. Bottom line: Great thinking, but not a chance on the market. Perhaps for glass roofs they might be viable because of the better angle to the sun. But then again, how big is that market? There's perhaps one big infrastructure project every month built globally that could have a use for them. Is that enough? Probably not. It's much simpler to simply cover the roofs of every larger industrial building everywhere with the standard panels. Nobody would notice, but they'd do the job.
Not noticeably, glass already blocks UVB from the inside of the building. Passing that actually requires special glass. Greenhouse glass? Not positive.
If I touch the window, am I going to get shocked? Does it generate heat? What is the cost per square inch to make it? What is it's durability being outside? What about issues with water/rain?
So, was the glass wet or was that irregular surface deformation some sort of coating? Basically it looks like you are talking about a piece of glass, that by its normal nature and characteristics, which will diffuse some of the light (UV) that passes normally through it to its edges? When you say "transparent luminescent solar concentrator" are you trying to say that the UV light is concentrated at those edges, increasing the "strength" of the UV light along those edges versus what normally goes through it already? I ask this because you are talking about of instead of having full solar cells, you are going to utilize a small amount of solar cells along the perimeter of the glass. Standard glass by nature, and I could very well be wrong here as I hold no PHD's, will diffuse the light that is being transmitted through the edges, so you are losing potency there to start with right? And then using only a few solar cells along the edge, what kind of efficiency are you talking about? I think this is a good step, as architects want clear windows etc... So I am glad to see you pursuing this technology, but stating that it could power the whole building, any building, is in my humble opinion a bit too far reaching of a statement to make that it can do. A wonderful goal to be sure, but to make that kind of assumptive statement makes me doubt a lot by itself. Looking forward to being proven wrong here. I think that one area you may want to explore and may already be exploring is in the actual chemical makeup of standard glass that is used in residential and commercial projects. Increasing the amount of UV that diffuses to the edges may help. And if you can help develop a glass that manufacturers can readily make for the right price point, then it can get utilized in mainstream construction in conjunction with this tech you are working on. Good luck!!
The UV light does not "diffuse" to the edges. The UV light will be absorbed by the compounds embedded in the coating/glass, and then re-emitted to the edge (with a different frequency). This process is called photoluminescence
may be this comment never read, this an old project or maybe it had set back cause glass solar panel cost more the usual solar panel how about if i say you glass solar panel is a component for obtaining free energy and the best part you do not had to create many or bigger glass solar panel, here a tip, basic light principal also the characteristic of light, you guys had many brilliant minds even i know some many multi phd, this tip sure trigger the main stuff of my idea
I heard they are half as efficient as normal cells, that's good for how small the actual solar cells are. And it's the area that counts and it may get more concentrated light cos the same amount of light is going into a much smaller area. They are just glass with science stuff in it and it's completely transparent (still) and the cells are at the edges and works by total internal reflection. So you don't lose much cos light is still collected with a large area. Way better than compared with direct light on the cells themselves. And the extra area where you can put the solar cells makes up for the less efficiency. That said, we should get rid of all the black (normal) solar cells (except in the snowy areas and extreme latitudes) and replace them with transparent ones (with reflective stuff under). And make sure every single roof is covered with them and also use the solar cells as windows. And the reason I say this is cos normal cells are dark and absorb heat. In America they painted the streets white and the town was significantly cooler. So every roof covered with highly reflective stuff under the solar cells will do a double whammy with reflecting light as well as making power. Instead of cancelling it'self out by making the planet warmer with the dark cells, while making power. No, get rid of them, and make the glass ones (strait away). And on every roof! Going by what I observe, only about 10% of roofs have them (when you consider all types of buildings) and hardly any are completely covered with them. Paint all the roads etc. a light color, doesn't have to be white, beige, like the cement roads and make every road light color. And airports, plaza's etc. Do it right now. Those cylindrical wind turbines are only about 10% as efficient as normal wind turbines cos of the smaller diam. But cos the cylindrical turbines are of such small diam, you could easily pack ten times more in the same area, and they are relatively silent and inherently way cheaper and easier to build and don't kill birds like the normal ones tend to. And they look a bit better (just a tower) and with the silence they could have one on every roof as well, and more on big block buildings. Get rid of the grid (except for industrial etc.) and every house has batteries and solar and wind. An easier and quicker way to make renewables a major thing. The world is turning into a dustbowl so we have to make heaps of desalinators where it's droughting (just about everywhere) and pump the water onto the dry land to terraform it. Immediate start! And grow heaps of trees like they are in Africa, they are growing them in long strips along the country and it's getting results (so there is hope) and it was a dustbowl, but now some of it is terraformed already. Well done, and we have to do it more, now. Ramp up fusion and other new fangled super tech ideas that may save the planet. Experiment with that instead of sending people to Mars. Terraform earth first. Make all plastic packaging etc white or silver frost, so when it sits in the middle of the ocean at least it's doing something right. Sounds like a joke but beggars can't be choosers, when we are desperate why not make that a policy to help cool the planet. And even go further if needed, and make millions of plastic balls that float on the ocean (white ones). They are already doing that with black plastic balls and putting them in lakes. That experiment isn't to fight global warming (obviously) doing the opposite (like normal solar cells are) but they are doing it for some other reason. lol They should do it with white balls if they are going to do that, like they should have transparent solar cells with reflective backing.
Not only windows, the touch of a telephone can have them and charge automatically when exposed to the sun. Also glasses in electric cars as a way to supplement the charge of their batteries. Etc.
So just for better understanding...if you devide greater windows with more frames in it the efficiency should inscrease, right? As in 8 smaller windows (not too small!) should provide more energie then one large window (like a display window).
If put in front of regular Solar panels in place of the regular glass covering, would that be a net gain in overall efficiency or would regular Solar panels lose 7% or more for lack of a complete light spectrum? Old post but worth a follow up.
If you consider how small the motor was, how big the light was and how slow the motor turns, up scaling this to a full size window might get you enough power for a 60w bulb.
Hello Prof. Luntz (sp?), when California passed the law that pushed out CFL light bulbs, there was little information educating the consumer of the toxic nature of disposing of broken bulbs due to their material composition. Solar Panels contain toxic substances such as lead, cadnium, nitrogen triflouride, etc. Question for you. If a buidling in California, built with EPowerGlass was demolished, based on EPowerGlass' composition and current laws, would disposal of EPowerGlass be considered a hazardous waste material and be required to be placed in hazardous waste containers or would it be considered land fill ready? A number of us are interested in your answer, a reasonable question from those of us with whom you share this planet. We look forward to your reply. Thanks.
SR Productions exactly what I was wondering. I'm guessing it depends on how much energy is harvested from the first pane and what is left to be harvested onto the 2nd, 3rd, so on.
no well what i was thinking if they use a normal solar cell behind it..the remaining energy would be absorbed and the black colour of the normal solar cells would attract more light in the process
This tech uses the non-visible part of the EM spectrum, which is most of it. Putting a normal solar cell won't make much difference. This tech main advantage is that aesthetically pleasing and can be retrofitted into existing buildings as windows.
@@srproductions8798 So a 24% efficient panel with 10 plys of this plastic overlay (@ 5% efficient per layer). Would be 74% efficient. Seems like they would have thought of that. But the overlays would block half the light from ever getting to the conventional solar cell.
It sounds good but retrofitting this would be a pain despite his claims. First off you need charge controllers all over to deal with shading. One shaded cell acts as a resistor to any other in series and will drop the current flow to zero. In new buildings sure you can accommodate small mppt controllers all over but in existing buildings that would be a fairly tall order unless you're dealing with a building that doesn't get shaded.
Sounds kinda interesting. but then again: The solar radiation that earth receives is mostly in the visible spectrum. of the other parts, UV is really low as the atmosphere is good at absorbing it. That leaves us with IR. And IR has the pesky little trait of being low energy and thus hard to get energy out of. With that in mind i kinda think that even with improvement it is only useful in niche applications - but not to produce clean energy. Cause with how little energy in comparison to normal solar-cells this can make and how hard it is to produce i get the feeling that it requires many times more energy to create those than they can produce in their lifetime.
how would these work in a greenhouse setting? anyone know? I get the sense that it would be absorbing a portion of the energy but not all of it. Would be an interesting application if we could combine this with vertical greenhouses like that massive one in texas. think of the sustainability!
This is old. 4 years video but technology is old too. I homebrewed my first transperent solar panel in 2012 so these guys are 3 years behind. I get almost 1kw from a panel slightly larger that a squared foot. Actually 40x40cm.
My thought is that residential is fairly expensive to serve with infrastructure. If solar cells became capable of making entire neighborhoods off the grid. That could work with current, ever improving solar cells. Downtown's full of skyscrapers are a compact area that can be efficiently served with a low infrastructure cost by large, short runs of power lines. The focus of solar panels should be residential.
This could and thus should be our energy future. I'll be following this technology. I wonder if work hours might shift to peak power supply for an office building.
Anyone know what the exact wavelength spectrum the glass is capturing? He mentions that a possible application is greenhouses. However, plants use a small part or the UV spectrum (300-400) and a small part of the IR spectrum (700-800) so technically wouldn't the glass affect the growth of the plants in the greenhouse? Then again, if the energy was converted into grow-lights then the net efficiency gain would probably make up for that.
Are they used as normal windows with solar panel abilitys or do you put this into a normal window? Because if you use it as a window with SP Power, what about cleaning?
🔥A really great invention made of unlimited energy. 🔥Probably won't be coming to the general population in decades due to regulations and heavy pricing. 🔥Thus, the positive development is noticed in the distance.
Solar pays for itself immediately. If you find the right company (local, small companies) will install solar, get it permitted and operational for NO COST OUT OF POCKET, and the monthly payment for the solar is LESS THAN what you were paying the utility company. So, solar replaces the public utility bill, costs less, has zero upfront costs, gives you equity in your power, guarantees that your power payment will be a FLAT RATE (no increases), and is MUCH BETTER for the environment. Solar is a no-brainer!
can these spectrum (infra red & ultra violet) of non visible tech layer over monocrystalline technology already in place or are they mutually exclusive. The increased power potential may be what? I presume that the thickness of the window and its area produce a relation or symmetry when charted. Finally If you build it will we see it as affordable out of the gate or should we plan for our children to have the benefit?
1) How much power can you produce from these transparent solar panels (e.g, 1KW per sq inch), and does it require the solar panels to be daisy chain together? 2) How do you store the power (battery fields) so that you have power after the sun goes down? 3) Can you sell the power generated to the power grid and get paid or get credit from the power company? 4) Does it require you to replace the solar panel after so many years, because the panel has broken down? 5) What is the cost of this transparent solar panel? (e.g, $100 per sq inch) 6) We have a lot of solar farms here that could be retrofitted with the surface glass on the standard solar panel with the transparent solar panel in conjunction to produce more power within a confined space if it could work in that configuration. This technology sounds very interesting. I live where we have a lot of sunlight all year around. Thanks.
+Steven Davis Efficiency of about 7%. Since it's transparent there is going to be close to no solar radiation to be absorbed. This is definitely an inefficient technology (like every new technology). It is way better to equip your roof with solar panels than your windows with this. (roofs don't break that often). Don't get me wrong, this does sound interesting and innovative. It's just that there is no practical application. It's like not solving the problem. "I'm gonna make a transparent solar panel, when solar panels have to absorb light to work"
not exactly. which would u choose? regular glass that does nothing? or glass that has 7% solar efficiency? even the best solar panels being used by people today are only about 15-20% efficient, so this is only 1/2-1/3 as good, which is still pretty good. u need glass. might as well make it DO something.
Professor Lunt,... What about stacking these units, one on top of the other? Is there much light loss transmission? If not you could make panels that are 2,...3,...4 layers deep to equal, and/or exceed present day silicon based panel efficiencies ,... Right? You guys are onto something really really big/sensational - I was thinking of this very question- why not transparent solar panels. Can wait to see how this pans out - I wish you and your teem the best of luck.
I'm no expert, but the light that's used to make energy is collected and dispersed to the edges of the panels (it's not using the visible light that shines through), so stacking them on top of each other would be pretty useless because only the top panel will actually generate electricity no?
+Mohamed Samir praising someone as being brilliant when that person doesn't understand how this works and his idea is a fantasy kinda shows how much both of you know about this particular subject.
Now you see as i see, humanity is designing and inventing a new reality. All the elements needed are being developed separately by different companies and organisations all over the world. theres a seemingly subconscious synchronicity happening with all these technologies and what is able to be developed and achieved once all these technological advancements converge.
+Joe Davis To my understanding, its the destabilization of the magnetic fields being created by the alternating current running through the lines and power supplies. A solar storm fires out hyper energetic plasma which is deflected by our magnetosphere. A solar storm does not contain anymore photons that cause the electrons in a photovoltaic hop around and create a circuit. I don't believe it causes anymore UV or IR waves either, which is what the glass is picking up and directing to the edges of the glass. The only way a solar storm would effect these cells is if our magnetosphere fails, or we get hit by a storm when our poles are switching (which could happen). That effect would basically fry all electronics, regardless of power source (solar, coal, hydro, wind etc.) I'm studying this kind of thing but by no means an expert, so please fact check me! :)
Two caveats are begging to be addressed: 1. How much less energy is collected with this kind of solar collector than the usual roof-top kind? It's only collecting parts of the spectrum the human eye cannot see. How much difference does that make in terms of how much energy is collected? 2. He talks about the vertical part of many buildings being larger than the roof, which is a great point. But don't forget that each square foot (or square meter) of the side of the building receives less solar energy than the roof because of the angle at which the sunlight reaches it.
A. How much additional cost is going to be added to a building with this technology? B. How long will it take to pay for it's self? C. How long will it last? If C is longer than B and B happens before C expires then there might be an advantage to this technology. Otherwise this is just a bunch of career researchers trying to secure their future.
Well price vs how well it works, should be 100% cheaper than a real PVC. Never, not even that one single panel he had would ever pay itself off would have around a 1% loss each year
I think plants use visible light for photosynthesis. Infrared doesn’t have enough energy and uv has too much. The transparent solar cells absorb very little visible light so plants should be okay?
Essentially it's micro to nano size invisible to notice elements inside a clear gloss structure, attempting to match classic bulk solar panel/tile power. Like a clear glossy paint on anything, to generate🔋. What wasn't impressive, 1:46 *high power lamp* on a single panel.
And no one has heard about that technology after 4 years.
Because it is so ridiculously inefficient and impractical that it's really just click bait.
@@MindBodySoulOk Are there any papers on the actual efficiency vs area? I'd really like to see its output values in comparison to modern super-efficient cells.
In May of last year a manufacturing firm started working with the technology. www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2019/05/9-8-efficient-transparent-solar-glass-product-clearview-power-finds-global-glass-manufacturer/
The problem is pioneering technology that required big upfront investment before you see any savings takes decades sometimes before its applicable on large scale
This is all the dreams of democrats. Free Free Free all smoke and mirrors.
Because that is what research in the world is all about, in majority. A lot of money spent on exercises of imagination.
And still no one has heard about that technology even after 8 years..
This could honestly change everything. Transparent solar needs to happen ASAP
michigan is leading the way in solar technology AND turtle fence technology
Are you guys going to continue the autotune the news video series or is it kill?
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No way! Love you guys
"This is happening now."
-Looks at upload date
-Looks at calendar
Um.....
Exactly what i was thinking
Insert Geralt de'Rivia Meme. hmmm
yeahh....
another 4 years later and this is the first time i head about it
8 years isn't that much when it comes to turning technology that's still being researched into commercially available product. Scientists and engineers love to say things like "this is happening now" in order to raise excitement, but if scientists and engineers are the only ones saying it, then it'll be a while before it's happening.
This is 8 years old. Has it been deployed on buildings yet? If so, how much power was captured? Ideally, the goal would be ample energy to power the needs of the building.
Would you share more info on how this project is coming along?
5 years later…
I have been thinking about this concept for so long. I am so glad that this is being developped. I wish that I would be able to use this on my house. Congratulations on this discovery!
Of course the real trick with most technologies like this is the cost and materials of making the solar cells. How much to make a building worth of windows like this? How much electricity would it generate, therefore how much would it save per year? How long until the windows pay for themselves?
This is incredible! Love to see this kind of human progression! Very important!
I hope this is very successful, I am proud of this university.
In the written article the 'professor' admits they are 5% efficient (I doubt in reality they are even that ) ....this combined with the fact that that windows are not orientated to the sun , would give and efficiency of about 1% ....
Normal panels have 17% efficiency .... there is no way these would be competitive compared to standard PV panels .... the 'professor' probably knows this , but want's to keep the funding coming to this project ... keeps him employed for a few years before the truth finally comes out
Putting aside the enormous cost of replacing every window with a custom solar panel for a minute, the comparison might be how much energy could be collected in a (pick a number here) 10-story building this way verses using roof-top panels. If your 17:1 ratio is correct and there is 100x more surface area then conceptually (not financially) this might make sense. Buildings shade each other in a city so only some faces would be eligible for collecting energy. For a tall building this may have potential if sponsored by an entity willing to underwrite the huge cost.
My main question is cost. I can see this as useful, In addition to or as an enhancements to an existing solar power system. But then comes the question of how long do they last, What will their cost be, etc. As a stand alone system, I don't see it working out too well. As a "booster system"... Maybe. And I have seen claims now of 9.8% efficient transparent panels.
They are around 10% (at panel relative zenith). i agree, to improve the efficiency they have to build starting from the house. The retrofit is a terrible idea. Plus the problem of the costs are very important to consider. But keeping up the research is a good thing. They should think more on the business model, or maybe they have one already...(but judging from that idea....mmmmhhhhh)
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@@jeanclaudewellness8274 "They are around 10%"
I think that might be for partially transparent solar panels. Apparently there are different degrees of transparency being tried out--which makes good sense. If you're talking about a building that would tint its windows so the sun doesn't give too much heat (greenhouse effect), partially transparent windows would fit the bill perfectly.
2019 and first time hearing about this
Is there an update on this? It seems to be resurfacing in my Facebook feed on a daily basis.
this technology is still far yet for mass production , expect it to come when graphene technology is on industrial level production my estimate is 10-20 years.
Dont believe the hype
It'll never go into production, because of the almost 90° angle towards the sun. At best they get out 10% of what the standard panels get out, while being much more expensive because there is no mass production.
@@the-quintessenz even worse, only using UV- and IR-light for electricity production limits the gain even further. Most of the energy from the sun comes to us in the visible spectrum. And it doesn't stop there, if you use a solar cell that is able to use IR-light you lose most of the energy of the UV-light to heat. You would have to use to diffrent cells stacked on each other, which would makes this more expensive.
Look up Ubiquitous Energy, the company that has come out this
I would recommend using this technology to stack solar panels on top of each other to produce more electricity per square foot in a solar farm. This would lead to cost saving in terms of the land to energy ratio.
But it'll increase the temperature too,, which in result decreases efficiency
The light will scatter as they stack. So make sure to limit the layers vs weight or all bets are off.
@@djmcnamer Good observation. Makes the suggest viable. very lucrative in terms of efficiency due to more watts from a square meter.
Wouldn't work, transparent panels capture energy from the solar spectrum that we can't see, so the "second" solar panel wouln't recieve any of these energy as it was already "absorbed" by the first one.
It could only work if the second panel were and opaque one, but then we rather use only that one, since is more efficient
@@agariztia I guessed it would since the first solar panel would not absorb all the energy from the spectrum. It would only absorb a portion of it as light passed through it.
I wonder how efficient they are. After all they only cover around 1/3 of the spectrum. Current systems have ~150Wpeak/m² which would be 50Wpeak for these and then there's the fact that they won't reflect all the UV rays to the absorber because some goes through and windows are rarely standing in an optimal angle to the sun. I would say it's perhaps 15W that you can get out on average or 10% of what is possible on the roof.
On the cost side they would be roughly the same price as the standard modules, because on the one side, they are simpler to install or repair, but then again, they need more complex wiring. So that's a zero sum game there.
Then, the standard modules are already in full swing on the market with reliable price-value increases, for which a big factory would need to be built first for the transparent one's.
Bottom line: Great thinking, but not a chance on the market. Perhaps for glass roofs they might be viable because of the better angle to the sun. But then again, how big is that market? There's perhaps one big infrastructure project every month built globally that could have a use for them. Is that enough? Probably not.
It's much simpler to simply cover the roofs of every larger industrial building everywhere with the standard panels. Nobody would notice, but they'd do the job.
You said they absorb uv rays so does that mean that they would lower the risk of sunburn therefore lowering risk of skin cancer?
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They’d collect the UV rays that hit the panels
Not noticeably, glass already blocks UVB from the inside of the building. Passing that actually requires special glass. Greenhouse glass? Not positive.
How smart this technology is: using the potential of existing buidings in cities and industrial area .....
This is a brilliant idea. Noticed that the video is dated to 2015 and here we are in 2019, has this technology been used on any buildings?
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Its so impressive, that it never leaves the lab!
Same thought 9years and no news 😂
When they don’t talk about how much it costs it’s a bit of a concern.
I ❤️ Michigan
So where is everything at now? I still haven’t seen it out yet? Where you at prof.?
So today is December 2017 --2.5 years later...
// What the progress?...
Try 8years - ding ding you have a new notification!
Tesla Motors can make great use of this
Actually tired of buying expensive cars and solar panels for rich people.
If I touch the window, am I going to get shocked? Does it generate heat? What is the cost per square inch to make it? What is it's durability being outside? What about issues with water/rain?
Well, I have traveled to the future by a couple of years and I still don't see this organic see thru on the market yet. I will check back in later.
I’m from a few years later and can confirm we still don’t have it
I'm in the future - we scammed some investors and looted the money - now we're on the run!
So, was the glass wet or was that irregular surface deformation some sort of coating?
Basically it looks like you are talking about a piece of glass, that by its normal nature and characteristics, which will diffuse some of the light (UV) that passes normally through it to its edges? When you say "transparent luminescent solar concentrator" are you trying to say that the UV light is concentrated at those edges, increasing the "strength" of the UV light along those edges versus what normally goes through it already?
I ask this because you are talking about of instead of having full solar cells, you are going to utilize a small amount of solar cells along the perimeter of the glass. Standard glass by nature, and I could very well be wrong here as I hold no PHD's, will diffuse the light that is being transmitted through the edges, so you are losing potency there to start with right? And then using only a few solar cells along the edge, what kind of efficiency are you talking about?
I think this is a good step, as architects want clear windows etc... So I am glad to see you pursuing this technology, but stating that it could power the whole building, any building, is in my humble opinion a bit too far reaching of a statement to make that it can do. A wonderful goal to be sure, but to make that kind of assumptive statement makes me doubt a lot by itself.
Looking forward to being proven wrong here.
I think that one area you may want to explore and may already be exploring is in the actual chemical makeup of standard glass that is used in residential and commercial projects. Increasing the amount of UV that diffuses to the edges may help. And if you can help develop a glass that manufacturers can readily make for the right price point, then it can get utilized in mainstream construction in conjunction with this tech you are working on.
Good luck!!
The UV light does not "diffuse" to the edges. The UV light will be absorbed by the compounds embedded in the coating/glass, and then re-emitted to the edge (with a different frequency). This process is called photoluminescence
Will the light that has passed be useful to plants and trees for photosynthesis ?
may be this comment never read, this an old project or maybe it had set back cause glass solar panel cost more the usual solar panel how about if i say you glass solar panel is a component for obtaining free energy and the best part you do not had to create many or bigger glass solar panel, here a tip, basic light principal also the characteristic of light, you guys had many brilliant minds even i know some many multi phd, this tip sure trigger the main stuff of my idea
Hats off to your creativity
👍 Game changer but what's happening since 9 years ?
Its been 6 years why hasn’t this been mass produced?
Was wondering the same. I presume that this is a sales pitch and in reality there are problems.
Because it's bullshit
This video was done almost 5 years ago.. How is the actual product coming along? it is being used now?
Yes. Check out the timeline here
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I heard they are half as efficient as normal cells, that's good for how small the actual solar cells are. And it's the area that counts and it may get more concentrated light cos the same amount of light is going into a much smaller area. They are just glass with science stuff in it and it's completely transparent (still) and the cells are at the edges and works by total internal reflection. So you don't lose much cos light is still collected with a large area. Way better than compared with direct light on the cells themselves. And the extra area where you can put the solar cells makes up for the less efficiency.
That said, we should get rid of all the black (normal) solar cells (except in the snowy areas and extreme latitudes) and replace them with transparent ones (with reflective stuff under). And make sure every single roof is covered with them and also use the solar cells as windows.
And the reason I say this is cos normal cells are dark and absorb heat. In America they painted the streets white and the town was significantly cooler. So every roof covered with highly reflective stuff under the solar cells will do a double whammy with reflecting light as well as making power. Instead of cancelling it'self out by making the planet warmer with the dark cells, while making power. No, get rid of them, and make the glass ones (strait away). And on every roof! Going by what I observe, only about 10% of roofs have them (when you consider all types of buildings) and hardly any are completely covered with them.
Paint all the roads etc. a light color, doesn't have to be white, beige, like the cement roads and make every road light color. And airports, plaza's etc. Do it right now.
Those cylindrical wind turbines are only about 10% as efficient as normal wind turbines cos of the smaller diam. But cos the cylindrical turbines are of such small diam, you could easily pack ten times more in the same area, and they are relatively silent and inherently way cheaper and easier to build and don't kill birds like the normal ones tend to. And they look a bit better (just a tower) and with the silence they could have one on every roof as well, and more on big block buildings.
Get rid of the grid (except for industrial etc.) and every house has batteries and solar and wind. An easier and quicker way to make renewables a major thing.
The world is turning into a dustbowl so we have to make heaps of desalinators where it's droughting (just about everywhere) and pump the water onto the dry land to terraform it. Immediate start! And grow heaps of trees like they are in Africa, they are growing them in long strips along the country and it's getting results (so there is hope) and it was a dustbowl, but now some of it is terraformed already. Well done, and we have to do it more, now.
Ramp up fusion and other new fangled super tech ideas that may save the planet. Experiment with that instead of sending people to Mars. Terraform earth first.
Make all plastic packaging etc white or silver frost, so when it sits in the middle of the ocean at least it's doing something right. Sounds like a joke but beggars can't be choosers, when we are desperate why not make that a policy to help cool the planet. And even go further if needed, and make millions of plastic balls that float on the ocean (white ones). They are already doing that with black plastic balls and putting them in lakes. That experiment isn't to fight global warming (obviously) doing the opposite (like normal solar cells are) but they are doing it for some other reason. lol They should do it with white balls if they are going to do that, like they should have transparent solar cells with reflective backing.
Not only windows, the touch of a telephone can have them and charge automatically when exposed to the sun. Also glasses in electric cars as a way to supplement the charge of their batteries. Etc.
So just for better understanding...if you devide greater windows with more frames in it the efficiency should inscrease, right?
As in 8 smaller windows (not too small!) should provide more energie then one large window (like a display window).
If put in front of regular Solar panels in place of the regular glass covering, would that be a net gain in overall efficiency or would regular Solar panels lose 7% or more for lack of a complete light spectrum? Old post but worth a follow up.
If you consider how small the motor was, how big the light was and how slow the motor turns, up scaling this to a full size window might get you enough power for a 60w bulb.
Floyd Dameron more like a 6 watt bulb.
Hello Prof. Luntz (sp?), when California passed the law that pushed out CFL light bulbs, there was little information educating the consumer of the toxic nature of disposing of broken bulbs due to their material composition. Solar Panels contain toxic substances such as lead, cadnium, nitrogen triflouride, etc. Question for you. If a buidling in California, built with EPowerGlass was demolished, based on EPowerGlass' composition and current laws, would disposal of EPowerGlass be considered a hazardous waste material and be required to be placed in hazardous waste containers or would it be considered land fill ready? A number of us are interested in your answer, a reasonable question from those of us with whom you share this planet. We look forward to your reply. Thanks.
Somebody go fund this man & his team. The future is vertical.
2021 and still waiting 😃
so wait if its clear..doesnt that mean we can almost double the power received from light by placing a normal solar cell behind it
SR Productions exactly what I was wondering. I'm guessing it depends on how much energy is harvested from the first pane and what is left to be harvested onto the 2nd, 3rd, so on.
no well what i was thinking if they use a normal solar cell behind it..the remaining energy would be absorbed and the black colour of the normal solar cells would attract more light in the process
This tech uses the non-visible part of the EM spectrum, which is most of it. Putting a normal solar cell won't make much difference. This tech main advantage is that aesthetically pleasing and can be retrofitted into existing buildings as windows.
yh but a normal solar cell uses a visible part of the EM spectrum
@@srproductions8798 So a 24% efficient panel with 10 plys of this plastic overlay (@ 5% efficient per layer). Would be 74% efficient. Seems like they would have thought of that. But the overlays would block half the light from ever getting to the conventional solar cell.
Theoretically if you invert the light spectrum captured you could develop "see through" greenhouse
I would totally use this in my home and studio. Cant wait
(2:00) Did he really just say that? Yes he did! Play it one more time. (2:00)
Any questions?
If it even does less than 5 percent that will help a lot
It sounds good but retrofitting this would be a pain despite his claims. First off you need charge controllers all over to deal with shading. One shaded cell acts as a resistor to any other in series and will drop the current flow to zero. In new buildings sure you can accommodate small mppt controllers all over but in existing buildings that would be a fairly tall order unless you're dealing with a building that doesn't get shaded.
How does this technology pair with concentrated/Fresnel lenses? If stronger sun light is directed at these do they produce more power?
Sounds kinda interesting.
but then again:
The solar radiation that earth receives is mostly in the visible spectrum. of the other parts, UV is really low as the atmosphere is good at absorbing it.
That leaves us with IR. And IR has the pesky little trait of being low energy and thus hard to get energy out of.
With that in mind i kinda think that even with improvement it is only useful in niche applications - but not to produce clean energy. Cause with how little energy in comparison to normal solar-cells this can make and how hard it is to produce i get the feeling that it requires many times more energy to create those than they can produce in their lifetime.
ABaumstumpf correct. It will always be far more cost effective to put conventional cells on the roof.
I hope that will be able to use every family on this world.. God bless you..
how would these work in a greenhouse setting? anyone know? I get the sense that it would be absorbing a portion of the energy but not all of it. Would be an interesting application if we could combine this with vertical greenhouses like that massive one in texas. think of the sustainability!
So couple of years where is this at?
This is huge... nice work.
This needs funding like it's an emergency!
+Yosemitebear62 where from? Will YOU fund it?
I'm a poor subsistence farmer from California who just happens to be a TH-cam icon.
Instead there's a national emergency over building a fucking wall... Fucking clown shoes.
This is old. 4 years video but technology is old too. I homebrewed my first transperent solar panel in 2012 so these guys are 3 years behind. I get almost 1kw from a panel slightly larger that a squared foot. Actually 40x40cm.
how?
@@zzrgio transparent layer on layer
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@@zzrgio Sorry, it's in development. Perhaps one day I will put it on the market when I have a patent.
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My thought is that residential is fairly expensive to serve with infrastructure. If solar cells became capable of making entire neighborhoods off the grid. That could work with current, ever improving solar cells.
Downtown's full of skyscrapers are a compact area that can be efficiently served with a low infrastructure cost by large, short runs of power lines. The focus of solar panels should be residential.
This could and thus should be our energy future. I'll be following this technology. I wonder if work hours might shift to peak power supply for an office building.
Anyone know what the exact wavelength spectrum the glass is capturing? He mentions that a possible application is greenhouses. However, plants use a small part or the UV spectrum (300-400) and a small part of the IR spectrum (700-800) so technically wouldn't the glass affect the growth of the plants in the greenhouse? Then again, if the energy was converted into grow-lights then the net efficiency gain would probably make up for that.
I hope this doesn't turn out like the solar roads thing.
You mean friction? From wind is small...
Are they used as normal windows with solar panel abilitys or do you put this into a normal window? Because if you use it as a window with SP Power, what about cleaning?
When will this be available to the masses?
This is a genius idea i just hope that there are no road blocks of production by the electric companies that will loose money
so? Nine years later...how's it goin'?
...Very good ! - but collection has never been a problem - the problem is storage.
Wow! This is great! Thanks Prof....
🔥A really great invention made of unlimited energy.
🔥Probably won't be coming to the general population in decades due to regulations and heavy pricing.
🔥Thus, the positive development is noticed in the distance.
where to buy? is it commercialized yet? Eager to buy and try really
We need an update on this.
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Solar pays for itself immediately. If you find the right company (local, small companies) will install solar, get it permitted and operational for NO COST OUT OF POCKET, and the monthly payment for the solar is LESS THAN what you were paying the utility company. So, solar replaces the public utility bill, costs less, has zero upfront costs, gives you equity in your power, guarantees that your power payment will be a FLAT RATE (no increases), and is MUCH BETTER for the environment. Solar is a no-brainer!
Tesla, take note for the Tesla van glass roof
Well it's been almost a couple of years. Where is the tech now? Commercially available or still in R+D?
sorry to bring bad news, but the way sun, light andscience works, this is still a scam.
can these spectrum (infra red & ultra violet) of non visible tech layer over monocrystalline technology already in place or are they mutually exclusive. The increased power potential may be what?
I presume that the thickness of the window and its area produce a relation or symmetry when charted.
Finally
If you build it will we see it as affordable out of the gate or should we plan for our children to have the benefit?
1) How much power can you produce from these transparent solar panels (e.g, 1KW per sq inch), and does it require the solar panels to be daisy chain together?
2) How do you store the power (battery fields) so that you have power after the sun goes down?
3) Can you sell the power generated to the power grid and get paid or get credit from the power company?
4) Does it require you to replace the solar panel after so many years, because the panel has broken down?
5) What is the cost of this transparent solar panel? (e.g, $100 per sq inch)
6) We have a lot of solar farms here that could be retrofitted with the surface glass on the standard solar panel with the transparent solar panel in conjunction to produce more power within a confined space if it could work in that configuration.
This technology sounds very interesting. I live where we have a lot of sunlight all year around.
Thanks.
so, three years later, what is the progress on getting this into production?
7 years later, nothing!
Thank you for sharing this video. Is this in production? Will it ever be available for homeowners? I would love to have this on my old home....:)
Terrific my hometown & school is doing great things MIT always dominated. Good job on edge system PV can be helpful in many applications...
is there any update after 6 years? do they had commercial prototype now?
didn't talk about efficiency, cost, etc... would love more details on all that.
+Steven Davis It will be expensive until it's not.
+Nate Hoffman It will also not be efficient until it is.
Theonegamefreak These are immutable truths.
+Steven Davis Efficiency of about 7%. Since it's transparent there is going to be close to no solar radiation to be absorbed. This is definitely an inefficient technology (like every new technology). It is way better to equip your roof with solar panels than your windows with this. (roofs don't break that often).
Don't get me wrong, this does sound interesting and innovative. It's just that there is no practical application. It's like not solving the problem. "I'm gonna make a transparent solar panel, when solar panels have to absorb light to work"
not exactly. which would u choose? regular glass that does nothing? or glass that has 7% solar efficiency? even the best solar panels being used by people today are only about 15-20% efficient, so this is only 1/2-1/3 as good, which is still pretty good. u need glass. might as well make it DO something.
Is this product already on a market?
This has been around since the 70s, not their invention. First saw it on BBC Tomorrow's World back in the late 70s.
Is MSU also studying/researching how to bend light into a building to create heat from refracted light?
Professor Lunt,... What about stacking these units, one on top of the other?
Is there much light loss transmission?
If not you could make panels that are 2,...3,...4 layers deep to equal, and/or exceed present day silicon based panel efficiencies ,... Right?
You guys are onto something really really big/sensational - I was thinking of this very question- why not transparent solar panels.
Can wait to see how this pans out - I wish you and your teem the best of luck.
I'm no expert, but the light that's used to make energy is collected and dispersed to the edges of the panels (it's not using the visible light that shines through), so stacking them on top of each other would be pretty useless because only the top panel will actually generate electricity no?
I had hoped Professor Lunt would/could answer that question - As I too aren't an expert in this technology - by any means.
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+Mohamed Samir praising someone as being brilliant when that person doesn't understand how this works and his idea is a fantasy kinda shows how much both of you know about this particular subject.
Exactly how does this work? Are the windows wired into the electrical system?...a battery?...What?
Great stuff! One question though-it's been a couple of years since, so why hasn't there been any news of the implementation of this stuff?
Homo sapiens (most) aren’t efficient and innovative enough
I like new innovative Ideas like this.
Hello, can you please allow me to use this clip of yours in my video that i am planning to make?
I would like to know, how much Energy you can get with that type of glass? Is it more that a Normal Solar Panel or less? And how much is the Price?
What I want to know is are they organic or are they made from silicon as well?
Now you see as i see, humanity is designing and inventing a new reality. All the elements needed are being developed separately by different companies and organisations all over the world. theres a seemingly subconscious synchronicity happening with all these technologies and what is able to be developed and achieved once all these technological advancements converge.
I know during a solar storm power lines can be overwhelmed, how would solar panels react?
+Joe Davis To my understanding, its the destabilization of the magnetic fields being created by the alternating current running through the lines and power supplies. A solar storm fires out hyper energetic plasma which is deflected by our magnetosphere. A solar storm does not contain anymore photons that cause the electrons in a photovoltaic hop around and create a circuit. I don't believe it causes anymore UV or IR waves either, which is what the glass is picking up and directing to the edges of the glass. The only way a solar storm would effect these cells is if our magnetosphere fails, or we get hit by a storm when our poles are switching (which could happen). That effect would basically fry all electronics, regardless of power source (solar, coal, hydro, wind etc.) I'm studying this kind of thing but by no means an expert, so please fact check me! :)
Two caveats are begging to be addressed:
1. How much less energy is collected with this kind of solar collector than the usual roof-top kind? It's only collecting parts of the spectrum the human eye cannot see. How much difference does that make in terms of how much energy is collected?
2. He talks about the vertical part of many buildings being larger than the roof, which is a great point. But don't forget that each square foot (or square meter) of the side of the building receives less solar energy than the roof because of the angle at which the sunlight reaches it.
A. How much additional cost is going to be added to a building with this technology?
B. How long will it take to pay for it's self?
C. How long will it last?
If C is longer than B and B happens before C expires then there might be an advantage to this technology. Otherwise this is just a bunch of career researchers trying to secure their future.
Well price vs how well it works, should be 100% cheaper than a real PVC.
Never, not even that one single panel he had would ever pay itself off
would have around a 1% loss each year
Will sunlight passing through the solar panels be useful to plant for photosynthesis and other important phenomenon.
I think plants use visible light for photosynthesis. Infrared doesn’t have enough energy and uv has too much. The transparent solar cells absorb very little visible light so plants should be okay?
When they say the glass contains 'Organic Molecules', are any of them Toxic like Cadmium?
Is there a company manufacturing these transparent solar panels?
I want to study this cell. is there any research paper for this cell? if yes, please sent link in comments please its urgent..........
Essentially it's micro to nano size invisible to notice elements inside a clear gloss structure, attempting to match classic bulk solar panel/tile power. Like a clear glossy paint on anything, to generate🔋. What wasn't impressive, 1:46 *high power lamp* on a single panel.
Awesome! Just makes common sense. Why isn't it being used mainstream and new construction
I would like to buy these for my home . Are they available ? What about stock options ?