China's Last Matriarchy: The Land Where Women Rule
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ต.ค. 2018
- China's one-child policy led to millions of female infanticides-except in a lush valley known as the “Land Where Women Rule.” Located in the foothills of the Himalayas, Lugu Lake is home to China’s Mosuo matriarchy. The region's 40,000 denizens have come up with a unique own family structure that puts women in charge. The Mosuo's “walking marriages”-in which women can have as many boyfriends as they want throughout their lifetime-replace traditional monogamy and inheritance passes from mother to daughter.
But are the women really in control-and how are men fairing under their rule? Broadly correspondent Milène Larsson spends a week in Lugu Lake with three generations of Mosuo women to find out what life is like in one of the world’s last matriarchies.
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Did she call her handmade blankets a Burberry knockoff?🤬🤬🤬
How do you think Burberry got the idea. This entire video was insulting to this beautiful culture.
yes, disgusting
She ruined the whole documentary with one line.
I think Burberry got it from the Scots
Hate her
those designers use a lot Chinese fashion or non fashion things try to create a new fashion. We have a plastic bag, 1 dollar each, blue and red lines. They use it and sell it how much 1000 or 10000 dollars?
i don't think it's 'attempted burberry'. the fabric design was not invented by burberry these big fashion names very frequently steal designs from different cultures and mark them as their own. i do not like that comment. similar fabrics are woven in parts of my country and have been for centuries. and 'glorifying housewives'?? I feel like that comment made absolutely no sense.
Demon Wolf that’s right. Lots of big designers steal the look and fabric of other cultures. And sell it big bucks.
kate kunst no she was not she is a young reporter. In time she is gonna get better.
Agree, to bad this reporter has no idea.
You’re right but it’s also true that copying western designs is massively common in china. There’s a reason why “Chinese knockoff” is a term. Tho I don’t think those were copying anything. Burberry itself is a copy of Scottish kelts
Great to see this culture, but agree the reporting was not exactly respectful. Being a farmer is not a “glorified housewives.”
Yea she behaved like a typical dumb western city girl!! They mosua Have a beautiful Culture and are Happy !!!
the reporter is so dumb. She lived in the patriarchy for so long that she thinks by replacing positions of power with women and controlling all the men as New Salve is truly a matriarch... lol
I think the reporter has a really naive perception about what it means to be the head of a family in any non-egalitarian system. "A glorified housewife" as a term to describe really hardworking women, really?
I‘m imagining all my female ancestors turning around in their grave after hearing something like that
Right its very disrespectful
Maja Osmancevic totally!
I’m looking for a blog that can show the tribes value (which I want to learn from) while not making this into a family n gender hatred dump.
She was weird and patronising. Her comments reflect the generally typical Westerner's view of this fascinating and wonderful culture. I don't think she understood nor tried to understand what she experienced. What a shame.
It seems like she's upset at the culture...which is sad.
Thought I was overly sensitive when the reporter seemed to rub me the wrong way. but "have you heard of Burberry?" definitely made me think nope, a better reporter would do the Musuo culture more justice.
Thats Vice...
And most probably the weaving designs and weaving business are way older then Burberry.
these 'burberry' patterns are traditional all over the asia (if not the whole world), from china to india to iran, and asia does them better than britain ever will 💁♀️
@@saaya8964 yes, western countries are well known for stealing ideas
@@shanchan8247 I agree
I need an older, more mature woman to do this doc. "I thought in a matriarchy, women would be treated like queens and the men would be doing most of the hard work," said the woman who is so steeped in patriarchy that she apparently aspires to be a trophy wife. Men work in patriarcy, sweety. It's not the work. It's the respect. It's who has power over who's life. It's ownership of property. It's who has what sexual rights. (also, did we just skip right on by where the older lady said that the brothers and uncles make most of the important decisions? Can we revisit that?)
yes..that kinda sounded not to good to me..confused..would have like o have heard more on that
@@buttercup3ish she said that they make decisions with her blessing because they 'wouldn't dare make a decision without her blessing' so really she still holds the ultimate power over the decision.
from my understanding she was saying they make the decisions(ministers), the grandmas gave the final say(prime ministers)
I think the translation wasn't clear. They can make important decisions too but she is the Queen so has final say, like the Queen of England. But I think a younger woman documentary host would've been okay too, just not her! Maybe someone of Asian descent.
She literally described the patriarchy.
This repoter was a nightmare to watch, she seemed very uncomfortable and ignorant about their culture. She made it all about herself and her perspective
What is concerning is that us in the west demonize any form or housework and the idea of a homemaker because we deem it as an inferior class to the rest of society when clearly, these women in Mosuo showed us a form of self-empowerment we lack in the west: rule over family, the household, and a strong voice in the community, and the strong bond they share with their families and the community spirit is extraordinary.
Only Mosuo people have this type of customs, the rest of China (99.9999999% of the population) are no different from the Western society,where man are in charge of the household, children carry father's last name, however, wives do not change their surname to husband's name
Wow very well said. You are so right. I have pity parties and get angry that I am a housewife and consider myself a slave sometimes lol but the way you put that actually makes a lot of a sense and made me think in a different perspective.
@nikki aviv exactly
Unfortunately, you're right. In the west, there is tension between women who supposedly support women's power and women whose chosen work is to run a household. The tension doesn't need to be there. It's as if we're all so enamoured of money that if work doesn't bring in cash, it's not respectable. Historically, I think many women have had to fill "masculine" roles (working outside the home, becoming the head of the household) in order to get any kind of personal control over their lives. I have a lot of respect for the women who did that (including my mother) because it paved the way for a much more comfortable existance for the women who came after them. But I'm afraid that it may feed into a patriarchal habit of disrespecting "women's work".
It is a history with white people. The Chinese men came over to the states and worked on the railroad. The women found them attractive so they made the Chinese men do stuff like laundry,cleaning and cooking to dull their attractiveness and lower their class. It's sad.
“ You don’t have to farm since you probably don’t know how” a slight diss😂😂!!
This reporter should not be doing documentary on culture because she doesn't seem to understand what it means
queen gray hell no she disqualifies from the title. People there hates calling’em chinese except the ones working for chinese gov.
well said vice lets its self down these days.
Exactly! And the way she looked when she was sharing the meal with the women. She didn't want to be there, eating their food. And the way she kept banging on about the food grown as being "organic." Better to have stayed in London, girl!
queen gray Well said!!
She is very annoying.
Ha... Its because its not fat that makes you fat... Its the excessive amount if sugar that you consume. Plus they do physical labor everyday, hard physical labor.
Exactly, north america pushes low fat foods that are just full of sugar and we're all getting fatter. These people know how to eat
shes right you know, they think just because its called fat its going to make you fat
Ja, my first thougt too. They work so hard to feed themselfes. And do other hard work to maintain the house/household. That Reporter is so blueeyed naive unbelevable. She just doesent unterstand the system and how it actually works!
There is a lot of sugar in Asian food but they still eat way more healthier than we do, they have a lot of veggies, rice, meat, etc plus that they always walk everywhere, work hard and stay active their whole life. When I was 13 I was on a trip with my mother to Thailand, their traditional candy was dried fish, sea weed etc. All the other that was candy came from our part of the world and was for the tourist. If we adopt their lifestyle and eating habit, obesity etc would be history.
Hard work=strong body 👍
"Have you heard of Burberry?"... Is that really the smartest thing you could come up with? 🤦♀️
Mrsqtfactory coming from a lard hater, what u expect? She prolly didn’t know the whites used to eat lard all the time b4 ww2.
@@chinesememer She made an observation about the amount of lard they put in. Didn't say she didn't like it. Her expression was merely surprise at the amount. What's your point?
@@alexlei2235 she didn't like it. That was very clear.
It'd be quite ironic if Burbury came from that.
Her tone of voice and the look of suppressed shock said it all. Again, she was showing in her manner how judgemental she was being, that was the point. And no, she didn't like it, going by the way she was looking when the meal was ready and everyone was eating. She was reluctant to eat anything, and only did so to be polite, on camera. So yeah, that's the whole point of the previous comment.
all is interesting except the valley girl's comments. She shouldn't travel outside London, really.
RIGHT!
If you were a native English speaker, you would notice that that woman isn't a native English speaker. She's from some other European country. Her English is quite good but it has a noticeable foreign accent. Also, "valley girls" are girls from the valley in California, not from England.
There we go, I just looked her up. Her name is Milène Larsson and she's Swedish.
@@goombapizza6335 all the same . EUROPEANS are EUROPEANS. What's the problem?
@@JourneywithMAMAZURI-hb8nr They never stated there was a problem, it was just a correction. And as an European with parents from two different European countries, I wouldn't say all Europeans are the same.
"Housewife" is only an insult or demeaning or low class in a patriarchal society. These women aren't "housewives" they are the leaders of the family and community, but to them "housewife" isn't even an insult because in a matriarchal society there aren't words to belittle women and women's choices in life like we have.
Also this reporter is terrible.
"Wife" is also not even a thing in their society. Omg what is wrong with this dumbass reporter. Who chose her?!
Powerful ❤
The reporter made this excruciating to watch.
She certainly did.
I wish the reporter could be more neutral. From the way I view it, she seems very judgmental and bias. Plus, the question she asked were culturally inappropriate (too foreign for the local to understand and respond)
I totally I agree!!!
Should have ask an asian vice reporter instead. Westerners don't seem to understand Asian culture just as how Asians do towards Westerners. It's sometimes too big a culture gap.
@@NeverClimbing i don't think upbringing matters as long as they're a respective reporter. this one, simply, is just not.
@@mikaylaalexander23 sorry. Yup there are exceptions but just speakin in general
Your listening to a "reporter" who is biased because she's a feminist and indoctrinated in feminist-liberalism and can't POSSIBLY be neutral in her position on a culture where women are primarily responsible for EVERYTHING! LOLOLOL!!!! everything in western cultured women is about NOT being responsible for themselves, their behaviour or ANYTHING that's happening around them, passing blame onto men and living in a state of victimization their whole lives! WHAT DO YOU EXPECT! HAHAHAHAHA!
Working hard and becoming strong is not something bad. That is why these women will live to be 100.
What the woman said at 14:14 makes me smile. I love how proud these people are of their culture, despite the judgement that they have faced throughout history, and I admire their ability to challenge the "rules" of society and pave their own path. That takes courage!
I couldn’t watch it all the way through. The native woman are so strong and the reporter can’t fathom a woman being able to handle it as well as men. She has obviously never had to fend for herself before.
That one gets it. 10/10 very perceptive. Exactly she never had to really work hard in her live yet she complains to have less say than men.
What that documentary showed me is that for men (or women ) there is no such thing as a free lunch.
“Glorifying housewives” 🤦🏻♀️ it’s a different culture and it doesn’t mean that their ideas are not okay, literally most of the opinions she has are disrespectful to the culture
10:53 "Do you think that this is because it's matriarchy and that women like things to be beautiful?" 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️ Stab me, right now
A F Stab me w u please
Right?? That question was so ridiculous
The notion of women beauty was from men’s views towards women. A woman is a valuable woman irrespective of how her looks presented.
The thing I admire the most about that community is their fluid view of relationships and marriages. I think that kind of flexibility lends greatly to the happiness of people there and possibly to other aspects of their lives.
Seung, Agreed. But I also think that, especially when it comes to having kids, the way they do things (walking marriage) would really only work in a small village. Too many "options," for people in a big city. While I do think a lot of people would be responsible and do the right thing by taking care of their kids, I also think there's lot of people who wouldn't. That wouldn't be good. However, "walking marriage," is just their way of approaching a fluid relationship. There are other ways, and I agree that things should be a lot more flexible than the rigid way they are now for most people.
Seung I like that there is no slut shaming here
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The reality is that. Most guys do not want to be with a girl who did not refuse. It's true for a girls to. A simple logic, if she cheated on why not me. I'm special, no. But when you are 35, then there is less choice and people are satisfied with what's left.
These men just do not care. They live and they do not work
I love their term for relationships: "walking marriage." Love the concept!
Absolutely!
Glorifying housewives?... OK...
Who is this woman?
Rt tcprttyguf😍
I cringed so hard at that. Housework and caretaking is real work and that reporter is rude.
I choked when she said that
Who is this woman?
A bitter bee-yatch.
It hurt my feelings a little bit when she said that mess... I bet she doesn't have a husband or children.
Cultures like these need to be respected & preserved.
This reporter is annoying. The things she says really grinds my gears
and yet nearly 3,000 people liked the video. Absolute shame.
After her opening statement about men, I stopped the video. I will not be continuing.
@@markgarrett7428 Just because they liked the video, doesn't mean they liked her as the reporter.
@@helenatube That's true, and a valid distinction.
Helena Same... I knew the second I heard that comment about men she’d be an awful reporter. Big yikes.
Attempted Burberry???WTF
exactly!! "i thought WTF how RUDE!" like why tf would you call their traditional weaving "attempted burberry"?? Burberry doesnt even look like that first of all Stacey like get your shit straight; second why would she think it was ok to say that, periodt! poor reporting
I know right! Some nerve. Some Burbury executive probably got the idea from them.
She is who she is. She is from Big modern city, she was not trying to be rude, just made her remarks meaning no insult.
These people liked her anyways, they are not judgemental discriminative racists like you but invating warm nice people.
@@susanna8612 because you're not "trying to be rude" doesn't mean that you can't come off as being rude. She is who she is and they're who they are. *She* was being judgmental even if they weren't.
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As an indigenous Native American Indian Woman...it’s extremely important that we take the “reigns” in describing our own cultural traditions and domestic principles and systems. I, applaud this Amazing, Wise and Strong Familial Hierarchy. Outsiders can not and most will never fully comprehend the necessary Female Role that occurred in order to ensure the destiny of their livelihood. Thanks for posting this. 🙇🏻♀️🔍🙏🏽👍🏽🔥❤️🇺🇸
the reporter is so unfit for anything more challenging than teen vogue articles
I live in a patriarchy and my mom who is retired now, still does most of the work in the household, whereas my dad mostly provides the money. Even when my mom was going to work, she still managed the household and did the cooking cleaning etc. Watching this made me realize that whether it be a matriarchy or patriarchy women will always be the ones who are the most hardworking.
If women were leading then men's life will be a curse. All this partying comes at a cost. There's a reason why matriarchies are undeveloped.
Women are not more hardworking and it’s not even close lol, you just wish it that way to pay yourself on the back, if women are the hardest workers why don’t the results of the planet reflect that lol
yes
Minimal house chores not hardworking...your a lazy man if you think women work harder.
What do you think your father does to provide money... sleep?
God I hate shockumentaries I thought this would be open ended and unbiased..
Historic FACT (not personal bias) = matriarchies yield poverty. And formerly-successful Tier 1 empires during a Decline And Fall in >80% of the cases adopted matriarchy during their collapse. This reporter isn't going by her own Western culture, matriarchy = failure in east AND west, north AND south, and on ALL continents. Matriarchy = failure. Consistently. *_Sorry, you live in fantasy-land due to YOUR OWN bias/wishful thinking -- get psychiatric help for your solipsism._*
they dont look poor at all to me, look at how happy and connected they are. Theyre rich with community, respect, love. Working hard is healthy.. I think theres something quite ideal in how they live
@@ayembic7933 they look happy and connected though because they are a somewhat secluded community, with strong roots in their traditions, not because of their so-called matriarchy. The plight that is modern civilization hasn't completely wrecked their dynamics yet.
I would like to stay there.. Hahaha
The Butcher Of Benghazi. Libya indicted me because I'm too stupid to delete my incriminating emails? L
I wished they would send someone who knows both languages, instead of an interpreter behind scenes. It just seems so awkward watching someone speak english and someone replying to them in Chinese
wish it was a Mosuo person translating.... Han people do not know anything about Chinese ethnic minorities. They are as ignorant too.
@@niamtxiv The younger people are speaking Mandarin though. Even the older generation was speaking a dialet, not a different language (*see edit below). There are some minority groups that are very different to Han with their own language, but not all of them. I always find it really hard to explain to people because the concept of ethnic minority in China is just a little different to what they are used to in the West.
edit: just did some research to make sure I am giving accurate information. So Mosuo do have their unique language (which bears certain resemblance to Chinese), and a mixture of Chinese and Mosuo is spoken there now. I am not sure which language the older ladies were speaking, but based on how much I understand them, I think they are either mixing Mandarin with their own language, or Mosuo language is closer to a Chinese dialet than a completely different language.
I wish i had a choice to just enjoy the documentary with out the interpretations of the presenter.
I don't care about her point of view. I want the whole picture. Objective and truthful.
Why did she automatically describe the grandmother she saw as "bad ass" simply based on the fact that she was wearing traditional clothing?
She didn't know a thing about this woman.
Therefore her description of her as "bad ass" was really a quite superficial and totally baseless presumption.
Oh well, what do you expect from a documentary produced by Vice?
Felicity Ray Self That „reporter“ is nuts
She is young that is all.
@@helenajennings4912 No she's just stupid.
What a meaningless comment. She called her bad ass that's because that's she felt. Is that wrong?
Anything else you wanna cry about today babydoll?
8:00 they are super skinny prolly because they stay super active.
Khalidah Kamal and they don’t eat processed junk food or fast food
@@user-ly4wt9xp4i True!!!
All food is homegrown that's why they're healthy and slim reporter chick!
Or because actually eating fat doesn't make u fat, eating sugar makes you fat. A diet that is rich in fat and protein is best.
The amount of physical activity these women do. They need the calories. The reporter isn't thinking.
16:41 reporter is under the impression that women will be treated like queens and men did the hard work.
herein lies the difference in the eastern mindset versus the western mindset.
We easterners understand and accept if you want a good life, we have to toil and nothing comes for free.
And a good KING or QUEEN is the one that gets down and do the hard work... and not laze around
That may have been true generations ago, but now easterners are the most spoiled brats in existence.
literally all of your pampered, born to rule, eastern monarchs would beg to differ.
mm i forgot to think about the millenials of China Singapore... I STAND CORRECTED
dO yOu KnNOE bUrBERrYy?? i think thats what europeans asked before they started colonizing the world lol
That would be funny if it weren't so true.
U mean english people
Lmfao omg
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Not all Europeans colonised though, just some rich countries, right?
The take of the reporter on it is kind of weird to me.
Calling them glorified housewifes and being confused that they aren't treated like queens.
Is this the picture she has of men in "patriarchies"
that they are treated like kings and don't have to work?
Like, Men are primary breadwinners in most societies, they do the hard and dangerous work which is even far more deadly than any womens occupation. When somenone has most power in souciety, they will also have the bigger burden on their shoulders.
I’ve kind of hoped she would maybe gain sympathy for men who are in the similar polsitition as these women, but no.
Its basically, Women are not equal enough, even in Matriachy
And even at the start, she goes like "Men just go wherever their dicks point" is just a purely sexist statemnt. This feminist really needs to stfu.
My thoughts exactly....
In older generations, that was how the definition of a real man was (hard working and make sure that his family has everything that they need), but now the definition of what a real man is changed to (depends on how many pussies you tap). There are still nice men, but the majority at least in my generation, are assholes. sexist comments always have truth in them.
The Problem was that the it seemed that the women where doing most of the traditional female Work and the traditional male Work. And to be honest i can understand that she was disillusioned. Especially After Hearing the grandmas say that the men make the important decisions and the just decide if they agree or Not.
From the documentary it didnt seem like the men contribute alot to their households or take up the part of the Burden that in our western culture is traditionally done by women.
@@JayJay-gj9bu You didn't understand the grandma's comment and maybe the reporter didn't either. The grandma was saying that women work hard for the family everywhere, but in Musuo culture they get to make the decisions too. Hence why the grandma said, "but here I call the shots..."
You should get yourself educated and think cross-culturally.. have some respect.. "Bad-ass Grandmas??" give me a break..
Yes!
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That is the way she sees it because most grandmas in the west are weak and feeble. They depend on someone else to take care of them rather than taking care of themselves. The idea is take care of me when they should be doing things to make sure they can take care of themselves at an old age. Get exercise.
"glorifying housewives" really rubbed me the wrong way, does she really believe that having power = doing nothing all day ? Well I suppose she is english afterall...
Lmao, you know how they like to sit while other do their work
This video shows the importance of traditional/tribal people to tell their own story. The reporter was so prejudiced and clueless, she did everything through her confirmation bias, assuming that everything there was somehow inferior because it's different from her social parameters.
I would like to have seen someone from within the Mosuo culture introduce us to their traditions and ways of life.
Even though it is understandable that the younger ones want to do something different it is still very sad that they don't care about the traditions and that this culture may eventually be a part of the past.
To me as someone a bit older it is a very exciting way of life where the women rule. Exciting in the sense that it takes away the pressure of marriage, of worrying about a partner leaving you, worrying about love fading or being worried about judgement with having more than one partner. It is a simpler life but still a very fulfilling one. One that does value family and tradition.
It's sad that the interviewer was naive, and thought women "sorta"have control because she was seeing with young eyes & not seeing the full picture of life & reality.
@lil pervert What a surprise to see a man lecturing a woman about what's wrong and right after she only commented about the way she felt during that video 😒
Marsha Q I get what you mean. For me it’s just nice seeing it the other way around for once.
This kind of family structure (unmarried women with children from multiple men who don't stick around) is dominant in many communities in the Western world. In Atlanta, Detroit...all the places where crime rates are sky high and no one wants to live.
@@Dennis-nc3vw Do these women's kids have the systematic support of uncles, aunts, and grandma, tho, like Mosuo?
You are Correct!
Feminization is the future of the earth.
Meditate on Murphy's sutras: What can go wrong will eventually go wrong:
1. It is good to get married occasionally.
2. A smart man will tell a woman that he understands her, but a stupid man will try to prove it.
3. Marriage is three sideshows: engagement, marriage and torture.
4. Marriage may make the world run smoothly, but it also makes a lot of people miserable.
5. If you want to avoid the breakdown of your marriage: the only way is not to get married.
6. Women are the second mistake God makes - men are the first. Obviously, two wrongs do not make a right together.
7. Women have the right to life, freedom, and the pursuit of men.
In the neighboring Myanmar, woman doesn't take on the man's last name. Marriage is considered a union of two families, two people rather than a woman coming under the control of a man.
In all of China the woman doesn't take on the man's name...
@@Enrelie why does the West put down other's cultures then?
In most of Asia and some African countries woman don't take the name of the husband. It's a very western thing.
In most of Asians and African countries women do take husband's last name.
This documentary didn't fully explore the Mosuo culture since there was not enough presentation of the men in this culture
nailed it ;)
Exactly
One guy said he was going for ciggies at the store, other said he’d call the woman back later when he gets home.
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Or no one gives a shit if men are shown.
Porn sure doesn’t.
I feel this lady doing the reporting is a conceited individual who believes her ways and 'her take on life' is the objective truth of life in all her videos.
She has this way of reporting that is downright judgmental rather than saying what is there and letting her viewers follow an organic unadulterated logical storyline.
Yep. She's a feminist. Probably woke too. Not surprising she's a reporter. It's a popular career path for them.
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I’d love to visit and get to know more about the culture without biases 🙄
her commentary was neither interesting or informative. mostly obvious or uninteresting
Attempted Burberry?... OK...
They don't need to get divorces, they don't need to be widow if there husband dies, they can choose their partner or how many kids they want or may not have them. It's good specially they are the decision maker and owner of their life.
Yes.. They have the authority in matriarchal societies. Men are OK with it if all the hard work is done by women and men get free times to play video games 🤣
The guy in yellow was spilling bare tea
When you're in charge you have responsibility and you work hard🙄
Whats wrong with that?
anthropology major here ... it's sensationalism to call this or any other matrilineal society a "matriarchy" (but what else do you expect from Western media?) ... it's not something that can be compared to patriarchy because men aren't "owned" here, they are free and autonomous people and they have their own power that rivals that of the women. it's better described as an egalitarian society and it says something about us that we view that as "matriarchal".
This!!!!!
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omg the reporter girl is really basic on rural culture -.-'
I had to stop watching after 10 minutes because the reporter is simply outrageous.
Why would you play Japanese music in the background when this has nothing to do with Japan?
Japanese and Chinese music sounds same to Westerners
When she said “attempted Burberry”, i immediately stop watching this video 👎🏽👎🏽👎🏽
I didn't like that statement "go wherever their dick points", but I think it's totally okay for there to be a matriarchal village.
In a country where women aren't given much value or regard, it gives them a place to go separate from that
societal structure that previously hindered their freedom and rights.
Yea, its hella sexist to assume every male is like that. Imagine if it was reversed and about women and indecency and bad decisions.
You don't have to farm since you probably don't know how :}
Well at least there are no wars when women are in charge. And their love traditions means no partners controlling/demanding/expecting from one another, and thus not much conflicts as well.
Actually most matriarchal tribe or nations were very war like, even or especially groups that were neither matriarchal or patriarchal were war like.
In some ways they are no difference with dogs after mating went back home.
But women in general tend to be less overtly aggressive and warlike. And people like Boudica or Cleopatra are female exceptions that did they could to survive within a male-dominated world and culture, where most will simply end up imitating men. So the expressions of these exceptions are kinda distorted by imperfect circumstances, and thus not really a true, accurate representation of female population if they are the only ones in charge and without the influence of a pre-existing male-dominated culture.
Though I'm guessing that if we're in a hypothetical world where only women took charge, it's not that there will be no wars, but wars will be of a more subtle and social nature. Since women can be more indirect than men when it comes to showing their aggression, selfishness or hostility. So it will be as aggressive and manipulative as men, but just in a different manner.
@@Native2Islam cite your sources. Ya can't make up a statement like that without facts to back it up.
rushbcykablyat lol
"Rather than traditonal marriages, the Musuo has something called walking marriages." (1:13) Whose tradition? l thought this video was about the Musuo tradition. Not very subtle social engineering move.
1:06 "whose tendency is to go wherever their xyz points" - and that of course is not sexism because only men can be oppressive, sexist, and toxic, right? Wrong. Aaaaaand another thumbs down …
This is Vice, what do you expect? :D
"You dont have to farm since you dont know how.."
It was really interesting to learn about this culture, but I feel like the reporter should have kept her unnecessary and biased comments to herself
Of course westerners be like that's different than how we live so are you really happy? But you need to be like us to be happy. In my opinion, these people sounds a lot more happy than she is, maybe she should try to live here a few years. 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️
Wow, I want to go and live there. High power to women! There should be more countries like this one! Love the traditional because mostly even others cultures nowadays women still do must works for the families but the men are the one is in charge, so women might as well be in charge like them.
I love this video except the biased seeming reporter, their culture seems amazing I don’t think it should be judged when they’ve been living this way for so long
Ancient asian cultures were egalitarian. Which means women are equal to men. This is true during shang dynasty more than 3000 years ago. All changed during the qin dynasty which was more of a patriarchal culture.
23:21what is the name of the flute that the guy is playing?
Lizzie and her mom are both really beautiful. I can see why Lizzie's popular lol
I like the concept of walking marriage 🤔😊
These women are so amazing. How lucky to be able to spend that time w them and learn their culture ❤
I was once being told by a local guide from Lijiang that the tradition of the men not needing to mend the house was because back in those days...
In time to peace, the family of the men supports the men’s literature pursues (other than imperial exams, 琴棋书画, known as the 4 arts which is seen as “the four main academic and artistic accomplishments required of the aristocratic ancient Chinese scholar-gentleman”);
while in time of war they go out and might never come back. Not sure how accurate but does make some sense 🤔
Love watching your documentary..
I don't like how they're commenting on the culture, and the words.
i see tibetan culture has a far reaching effect. we may have lost our nation. but our influence is there everywhere.
lobsang wangchen
Please, this is their own culture, the Tibetan influence (only on religion, not even on their wider society) is a mere sidenote. Don’t inflate your own importance. By the way, Tibet has always and will always be part of China. Fuck you you can’t escape facts.
@@snowhole2625 Lol why fuck him you idiot? China is not a country, but a continent of culture. tibet was forcibly occupied. So fuck you.
I agree. Similarly, China has always and will always be part of Taiwan.
I See Tenzins Everywhere I think it’s better to just say china is not a country - like a subcontinent like India or europe. Even several parts of africa
It's like saying Arabic culture has the second most followers in the world, like equating every Muslim Culture with Arabic culture.
I have thoroughly enjoyed watching this Documentary... gives you yet insight of the outside world you’ve never seen.
Thank you fir this videos
Such great , merciii/thank you !!!
I’m so confused why everybody has an issue with the reporting - the reporter seems to be really enjoying being there.
PREACH!
yeah, but we don't really give a shit about whether or not the reporter likes or dislikes being there. It's her reporting that we're interested in and how incredibly biased and rude she is towards the culture.
Reporter is mad that men having all the free times and women doing all the hard work, she's jealous 🤣
I don't care what anyone says about this, this sounds amazing.
Awesome video. Good to see great content from VICE
I don't think the reporter is disrespectful, her intonation and body language are absolutely nice, humble, you can see she likes it there so much.. she was just trying to make a joke (Burberry) that's it )
so where can i buy one of those blankets?
We have so much here, not exactly like those in the vid but our own cultural shawl😇
Google the lady's name
Matriarchy doesn't mean women live like queens, it just means women had more power in the community. And when they had power, they are responsible for the well-being of the community.
The mosou women sound so cute, the language is very flowing and it's really nice to hear them speak :)
Ok, I have my reservations about this reporter, but Burberry pattern is very popular in China, and yes it became popular there from Burberry brand itself... it's not insulting to the culture. The Mosuo are also producing what is popular for the general market there.
Is the person behind the camera a camerawoman too?
Love exploring other cultures. Great video!
Plus the way she asked those kind of questions..Really portrays that she's highly intelligent woman.
Very interesting .Thank you
@ 1:00 unbelievable sexism from this "reporter"
@@rizha7043 for us women yes
I don't know why people are so surprised, you see this type of family structure all the time in America.
You’re absolutely right. My mother was one of them and still is. And some women around the world. I will admit, and I always say this to my mother till this day, that I can never compare myself to her. Never, as it brings tears in my eyes. She admires me because I was in the military but that’s nothing compared to her strength. Not only women but both sexes as single parents. It takes a lot of guts❤️🖤
Yeah but it's not traditional culture. Just a new thing.
Lol
Which is why our society and economy is falling down. Thanks feminism!
Yes, in places like Detroit, in Atlanta. Anywhere that's a hell hole.
Fascinating. Thank you.
Okay, where do I sign?
I don't understand all the negative comments... I really liked this reporter. She clearly showed all sides wich allowed us to learn what that system is about. It seems like most people got the gist of it and are now picking on the reporter. Her oppinions are thought provoking to say the least but that is what made this documentary great. Good work!
interesting culture, boring questions from the interviewer.
I am all for this way of life and gladly trade a western woman for one of these hard working self-sustaining women.
No man committed after divotce to an ungrateful wife for years of spousal support and taking my kids away. Especially one that doesn't know the meaning of a hard day's work.
Bring on the walking marriage; I am all for it.
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This was really interesting!
8:21 can we just appreciate how kind that women is she gave her food and picked her crumbs of her , precious
omg i didnt realized before you pointed it out ... wow... she is truly a blessing
Why are you hating the reporter? She's is doing her job informing, she can't bring change nor accept fully of the present scenario... That's what reporters do!
No, but her questions are so unprofessional and highly provoking and hateful. Just ask the people for how their lives for what it is, not color them with her personal biases. She keep asking them stupid questions, do you know burberry? most of these women never left their villages at all to know what is Britain or Burberry. Then she was shocked at how women are hard working and asking why men are not doing their Job. This bitch understand power as you do nothing as complete sucker and you get to exploit others entirely, and not power as taking matter into your own hand and deciding everything. These women do everything and decide everything, rendering men powerless to intervene in any matter even in war, they have to consult grand mother.
Reporter is jealous men having free time. 🤣
Good documentary great work sister
I do not know why people need to get married these days or have kids.I am 41 never getting married or having kids.I been single clode thirty yrs and loving it.