People underestimate how greatly Electric vans will simplify life & the ability to live in full-time. No more gas stoves, combustion, propane, flammable heat & energy sources. Just all electric, with the ability to make your own energy from solar or wind on the roof to offset what you use while stationary. If the main battery is LFP or better, there’s really little, to No fire risk at all.
This van will be hugely popular with couriers. Good on LDV for at least getting a usable EV on the market. I'm sure that future vans will come better specified with faster charge times etc but for now, this is a huge step in the right direction. If I was in the market for a van like I used to be, I'd buy one.
3 phase at home will cost you a lot of money to install. if you get permission from the power utility to do so, that is. You can have the Deliver 9 ICE (larger Van than the 7) in Oz for AU$45k if you are a holder of an ABN. Slightly more if you don’t.
There a good van , there all over London being used for everything. They do the deliver 9 in UK and New Zealand but this is Australia. BYD has a similar size van but they only had a limited supply that came to Australia, keep smiling everyone
Thanks for covering this Viking! I'm on the market for a small eCamper so am always interested in eVans. I drove a Nissan ENV200 as a camper for a couple of years and it was great but hard work as the range is so small and there are so few rapid chargers here in NZ that if even one on my route is down then my road trip is buggered! So I've had to go back to a petrol kombi for campervaning plus a super cheap Leaf for my runaround. The only eVan with a decent range here is the Peugeot e-Expert and that's about $90K! Then I'd have to spend $5K plus to convert it to a camper. I've looked at importing a secondhand Vivaro-e from the UK; they sell for about $35K for a decent secondhand one. But by the time I've paid for shipping and crazy NZ import taxes, it's doubled in price! So the LDV looks like it could defo find a place in the market in Oz and NZ, and Europe. No good for me as I don't buy brand new or Chinese. I'm looking forward to the launch of the new Ford Custom eTransit here - which I'm sure you guys would get?, as it has 2.3kw socket, which is perfect for eCampers, will be built and specced better than the LDV, and has good range. Was supposed to be launching any day now but who knows; these things are always late. I'll have to then wait a year or so for affordable, secondhand ones, but at least there's something on the medium-term NZ horizon that fits my use case. In the meantime I'll have to stick with petrol campervaning unfortunately. Cheers again for the coverage, keep up the good work mate!
we have owned 2 LDV diesel vans for the last 5 years that we use for our business and they have performed perfectly, before that we had Transits and iLoad's, both great! but we did have minor warranty issues with them. Buying Chinese is a non issue these days as far as quality is concerned. Both our vans have passed wof each year with no problems. Looking forward to changing to the ev version in the next year or two. By the way, charging speed is not an issue with work vans, we also have a MGzsev for around town duties and we just plug it in to a standard wall plug each night and is more than full each morning. If our mileage does increase in the future, we will install 7kw chargers.
It was released at the CVS 2023 in Birmingham in April. Your video is one of two positive reviews I’ve seen. Keep up your great work. I’m looking at the ID Buzz Cargo.
Hi Sam, love your output. Maybe you could highlight whether your reviewed vehicles have bidirectional charging? For an old guy like me it takes ages to find that out because different manufacturers report it in different ways. Keep up the great work
we have two of the diesel ones for our business, a 2018 and a 2021, both have proved to be 100% reliable so far, we have had Transits and Hyundai's in the past and they were both great! At the time, we could get a much better deal with the LDV. We also have a MGzsev for around town pick ups for small stuff, and has really opened my eyes in a lot of ways to the benefits of an ev.. The previous government added extra taxes on ice vehicles even though there was was no way we could change, a dumb move.
I agree I want the 4wd ute. If it comes this year it will revolutionise this space in Australia. I would consider this van if it could take a second row of seats and had windows in the door
Really? 😅 yourself out. LDV has a Ute available that fits your requirements just fine. Model designated the eT60. Yours for low low price of 93000 plus onroads( around 8k ). They sold 40 last year, so it's clearly popular. Let us know when you have purchased It. 😅😅😅😅
you are living in the past. We have two LDV diesel vans and they have been spot on for the last 5 years. If the ev one is even close, we will get them for our business. P.S. in NZ the ute is half that price, end of run sell out, because they know the world is changing and the pure ev version is not far away. 😃 @@robertfonovic3551
I'm a delivery driver in vans like this, but higher roof and refrigeration unit; the range is just on about how many kilometres I drive each day, some Brisbane to Noosa days may push the range... Good product to start with, I hope the other manufacturers push back with their own offerings in due course!
Thank Viking for covering the LDV Deliver 7 EV, We are currently looking at the LDV Deliver 7 88kw EV for a bit of travelling and came across the Farison Van from China coming to Australia in 2025, do we have any info on that yet regarding mileage etc and costs?
I can't understand why the charging rate is so low; my MG4 (also from SAIC) can and does charge at around 140KW on a fast charger, which is fast enough for 30% recharge in less than a 10 minute break. Even a busy delivery driver could (and should) take a couple such breaks in the course of a day's work.
I was considering this van, however based on what i heard about big loss in range on top of the unrealistic real world values stated by the manufacturer. Its a shame we don't have more options on the market in this range.
Wish the range was better. I want one as a mobile astrophotography (and camping) van. Here in Australia, that range isn’t great. The country is too big
Charging rate isn’t great. Depending on the company how many km they do etc will determine whether this sells. If they need to charge during the day they will need to rely on the bigger battery pack and a charge rate of max 90.
1,000 km real life range and 15 minutes from 0% to 100% charging is the real goal for this type. Everything else is just shovelware. And for passenger cars: 2,000 km and 5 minutes from 0% to 100%. Everything else I regard as deplorable trash.
1. Love your work 2. The range is rubbish. No tradies will buy this. Once you fit out your van with drawers, shelves, tools etc you're going to add a few hundred kilos further reducing the range.
Do you actually do any research before flapping the gums ? Hiace has a all new update 2019 after the last one ran about 15 years which is common for most vans Hiace unsafe ?? It 5 star crash rated with 94% for driver safety Hiaces have been bought for $50k in recent times and will be looking at what near $70k for the larger pack version Slow dc charging and paid dc charging isnt cheap now on the road and time consuming , you dont make money while sitting around waiting for a charge and if you are paying employees to sit around lol😂 These electric vans will serve a purpose for some but dont expect this van to take over the courier world
90kw DC is not that bad, and all the LDV vans I have seen are local business runarounds, just like our 2. Never done more than 150km in a day, so recharging back at the depot each night on the slower AC should not be an issue. By the way, the price of diesel in NZ is not cheap, plus we have to pay RUC on top of that, which is not cheap either, plus we have to refuel at a service station, which is really not cheap as my staff insist on coffee and nibbles! 😃. no worries, they are worth it and the coffee wakes them (and me) up a bit.
Nobody in their right mind is going to buy this van is they require a reliable work vehicle. 300KM range with no load and 9 hours to charge? Give me a break.
It is crazy. There is a HUGE gap in the market for courier/postal van EVs, where capital cost is not as important as ultra low running costs and extreme reliability (both, of course, EV strengths). But this one - clearly another converted ICE platform with all the compromises that involves - is a very poor attempt at filling that gap. LDV you can do better.
Where I live 90% of van deliveries are now done with electric vans , the drivers and the fleet owners love them ! The range on these seem more than what is needed for most delivery routes and also a nice looking van . The nine hour charge is on home chargers so no problem , overnight charging .
Awesome ! Many people out there would love to have conversion of a long-range Passengers Electric Van or a long-range Electric Camper Van. This LDV Electric Van just almost fit what many people needs. But still not enough range for a long distances exploration road trips drive to The Great outdoors? Will, at least, It better than nothing ! Hopefully many more Electric long-range Large Cargo VANs will be coming in the near future ! 😍💖⚡️🚐⚡️💖🔋🌞💯👍 😉💖⚡️🌏✌️
LDV Ute in Australia is 98000au. The van may be similarly priced. It will sell as well as the Ute.😊😊 Ldv sold 40 BEV Ute's in Australia last year. Big demand!!! Great success!!!!😮
People underestimate how greatly Electric vans will simplify life & the ability to live in full-time. No more gas stoves, combustion, propane, flammable heat & energy sources. Just all electric, with the ability to make your own energy from solar or wind on the roof to offset what you use while stationary. If the main battery is LFP or better, there’s really little, to No fire risk at all.
This van will be hugely popular with couriers. Good on LDV for at least getting a usable EV on the market. I'm sure that future vans will come better specified with faster charge times etc but for now, this is a huge step in the right direction. If I was in the market for a van like I used to be, I'd buy one.
Strong with the delusion you are😊😊😊
We've been waiting forever for a great electric van - this looks promising
You are either a bot. Or completely.....😊 It costs circa 100k au!!
has it been released yet with Ausi pricing ?
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@@robertfonovic3551The 88kW version if you're an Australian business with an ABN it only costs AUD$62k for the 88kwh model. You're totally wrong.
LDV is a sister brand to Maxus, MG and Roewe...and is the daughter of SAIC Motor which sells over 5 million vehicles annually.
3 phase at home will cost you a lot of money to install. if you get permission from the power utility to do so, that is. You can have the Deliver 9 ICE (larger Van than the 7) in Oz for AU$45k if you are a holder of an ABN. Slightly more if you don’t.
These maxus vans are popping up everywhere in the UK 😊
There a good van , there all over London being used for everything. They do the deliver 9 in UK and New Zealand but this is Australia. BYD has a similar size van but they only had a limited supply that came to Australia, keep smiling everyone
Thanks for covering this Viking! I'm on the market for a small eCamper so am always interested in eVans. I drove a Nissan ENV200 as a camper for a couple of years and it was great but hard work as the range is so small and there are so few rapid chargers here in NZ that if even one on my route is down then my road trip is buggered! So I've had to go back to a petrol kombi for campervaning plus a super cheap Leaf for my runaround. The only eVan with a decent range here is the Peugeot e-Expert and that's about $90K! Then I'd have to spend $5K plus to convert it to a camper. I've looked at importing a secondhand Vivaro-e from the UK; they sell for about $35K for a decent secondhand one. But by the time I've paid for shipping and crazy NZ import taxes, it's doubled in price! So the LDV looks like it could defo find a place in the market in Oz and NZ, and Europe. No good for me as I don't buy brand new or Chinese. I'm looking forward to the launch of the new Ford Custom eTransit here - which I'm sure you guys would get?, as it has 2.3kw socket, which is perfect for eCampers, will be built and specced better than the LDV, and has good range. Was supposed to be launching any day now but who knows; these things are always late. I'll have to then wait a year or so for affordable, secondhand ones, but at least there's something on the medium-term NZ horizon that fits my use case. In the meantime I'll have to stick with petrol campervaning unfortunately. Cheers again for the coverage, keep up the good work mate!
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we have owned 2 LDV diesel vans for the last 5 years that we use for our business and they have performed perfectly, before that we had Transits and iLoad's, both great! but we did have minor warranty issues with them. Buying Chinese is a non issue these days as far as quality is concerned. Both our vans have passed wof each year with no problems. Looking forward to changing to the ev version in the next year or two. By the way, charging speed is not an issue with work vans, we also have a MGzsev for around town duties and we just plug it in to a standard wall plug each night and is more than full each morning. If our mileage does increase in the future, we will install 7kw chargers.
It was released at the CVS 2023 in Birmingham in April. Your video is one of two positive reviews I’ve seen. Keep up your great work. I’m looking at the ID Buzz Cargo.
Hi Sam, love your output. Maybe you could highlight whether your reviewed vehicles have bidirectional charging? For an old guy like me it takes ages to find that out because different manufacturers report it in different ways. Keep up the great work
we have two of the diesel ones for our business, a 2018 and a 2021, both have proved to be 100% reliable so far, we have had Transits and Hyundai's in the past and they were both great! At the time, we could get a much better deal with the LDV. We also have a MGzsev for around town pick ups for small stuff, and has really opened my eyes in a lot of ways to the benefits of an ev.. The previous government added extra taxes on ice vehicles even though there was was no way we could change, a dumb move.
Thanks for another great review Sam.This van looks the goods.The.LWB large battery with the bonus of keen price should be a winner.
I agree I want the 4wd ute. If it comes this year it will revolutionise this space in Australia. I would consider this van if it could take a second row of seats and had windows in the door
Really? 😅 yourself out. LDV has a Ute available that fits your requirements just fine. Model designated the eT60. Yours for low low price of 93000 plus onroads( around 8k ). They sold 40 last year, so it's clearly popular. Let us know when you have purchased
It. 😅😅😅😅
you are living in the past. We have two LDV diesel vans and they have been spot on for the last 5 years. If the ev one is even close, we will get them for our business. P.S. in NZ the ute is half that price, end of run sell out, because they know the world is changing and the pure ev version is not far away. 😃
@@robertfonovic3551
I'm a delivery driver in vans like this, but higher roof and refrigeration unit; the range is just on about how many kilometres I drive each day, some Brisbane to Noosa days may push the range... Good product to start with, I hope the other manufacturers push back with their own offerings in due course!
Good pick for a postal van seems like
Thank Viking for covering the LDV Deliver 7 EV, We are currently looking at the LDV Deliver 7 88kw EV for a bit of travelling and came across the Farison Van from China coming to Australia in 2025, do we have any info on that yet regarding mileage etc and costs?
I can't understand why the charging rate is so low; my MG4 (also from SAIC) can and does charge at around 140KW on a fast charger, which is fast enough for 30% recharge in less than a 10 minute break. Even a busy delivery driver could (and should) take a couple such breaks in the course of a day's work.
last mile delivery van market, works just fine for us.
Sounds interesting. Do they have a dual motor option? I live in New England, Massachusetts to be precise, and I'd want awd or 4wd for our winters.
As if Sam would know.😅😅😅😅
There's a thing called Google. Google it.😅😅😅
I was considering this van, however based on what i heard about big loss in range on top of the unrealistic real world values stated by the manufacturer. Its a shame we don't have more options on the market in this range.
Canoo will be interesting to see on the road.
1300kg load isn’t enough and what’s the range with a load?
9 hour charge? Cripes, if the wheels aren’t turning, you’re not earning.
It's nice looking for a van, especially compared to Maxus ones with the stupid giant grill.
Remember "Towingcapacity" i am worried about corrosion however not a problem in Australia
Sounds like a good van
Yeah. If you've got a lazy 100k. Sam's figure is bullshit. Check online yourself.
Thanks!
Welcome!
Wish the range was better. I want one as a mobile astrophotography (and camping) van. Here in Australia, that range isn’t great. The country is too big
ID buzz is so expensive. Inm still waiting for a proper van
My son had a LDV van, the rear doors rusted from the inside out in 2 years....no thanks.
That van could install a Thermo King refrigeration system to keep your load cold.
Hahaha. And then travel 50klms before a recharge.
Charging rate isn’t great. Depending on the company how many km they do etc will determine whether this sells. If they need to charge during the day they will need to rely on the bigger battery pack and a charge rate of max 90.
They must make this van a Hybrid then you do not have to wait so long to charge it.
Just buy a diesel.
@@robertfonovic3551 That might also work, but it is less environmentally friendly I think
Just charge it overnight. Most people drive their vans to a client site, do work and drive back.
1,000 km real life range and 15 minutes from 0% to 100% charging is the real goal for this type.
Everything else is just shovelware.
And for passenger cars: 2,000 km and 5 minutes from 0% to 100%.
Everything else I regard as deplorable trash.
Evening mate
To the US please
How many homeless or fentynal addicts can it fit?
1. Love your work
2. The range is rubbish. No tradies will buy this. Once you fit out your van with drawers, shelves, tools etc you're going to add a few hundred kilos further reducing the range.
Ldv… Great brand if you like driving rust buckets, i think the manufacturer dips them in salt water
Not enough range unfortunately.
Do you actually do any research before flapping the gums ?
Hiace has a all new update 2019 after the last one ran about 15 years which is common for most vans
Hiace unsafe ?? It 5 star crash rated with 94% for driver safety
Hiaces have been bought for $50k in recent times and will be looking at what near $70k for the larger pack version
Slow dc charging and paid dc charging isnt cheap now on the road and time consuming , you dont make money while sitting around waiting for a charge and if you are paying employees to sit around lol😂
These electric vans will serve a purpose for some but dont expect this van to take over the courier world
Charging speed is terrible, what is wrong with them?
Nothing. Don't be so impatient. 1hr is just fine for a recharge. After all, we all have to make sacrifices to SAVE THE PLANET.😮😮
No mention of the construction. The smaller dedicated EV van has a galvanised steel frame and plastic body panels.
90kw DC is not that bad, and all the LDV vans I have seen are local business runarounds, just like our 2. Never done more than 150km in a day, so recharging back at the depot each night on the slower AC should not be an issue. By the way, the price of diesel in NZ is not cheap, plus we have to pay RUC on top of that, which is not cheap either, plus we have to refuel at a service station, which is really not cheap as my staff insist on coffee and nibbles! 😃. no worries, they are worth it and the coffee wakes them (and me) up a bit.
Nobody in their right mind is going to buy this van is they require a reliable work vehicle. 300KM range with no load and 9 hours to charge? Give me a break.
It is crazy. There is a HUGE gap in the market for courier/postal van EVs, where capital cost is not as important as ultra low running costs and extreme reliability (both, of course, EV strengths). But this one - clearly another converted ICE platform with all the compromises that involves - is a very poor attempt at filling that gap. LDV you can do better.
@@kenoliver8913... it's an insult.
All EVs will have long charge times with 11kW charger, right?
In this case you left out this info:
- 9hr with 11kW charger
- 1hr with 90kW charger
@@jacksmith4266 oh great. I will just find a 90KW charger during my working day and have a bit os a nap for an hour.
Where I live 90% of van deliveries are now done with electric vans , the drivers and the fleet owners love them !
The range on these seem more than what is needed for most delivery routes and also a nice looking van .
The nine hour charge is on home chargers so no problem , overnight charging .
🗑️ on wheels . CATL batteries suck which are the same Batteries Viking once said are the Future
Awesome ! Many people out there would love to have conversion of a long-range Passengers Electric Van or a long-range Electric Camper Van.
This LDV Electric Van just almost fit what many people needs.
But still not enough range for a long distances exploration road trips drive to The Great outdoors?
Will, at least, It better than nothing !
Hopefully many more Electric long-range Large Cargo VANs will be coming in the near future !
😍💖⚡️🚐⚡️💖🔋🌞💯👍
😉💖⚡️🌏✌️
LDV Ute in Australia is 98000au.
The van may be similarly priced. It will sell as well as the Ute.😊😊
Ldv sold 40 BEV Ute's in Australia last year. Big demand!!! Great success!!!!😮
in NZ it is half that price.
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Thanks for USD, but not for US Market.