Nice work. I particularly like the use of lay underneath. Saves a lot of time, effort, and $. As long as the "floor beneath the floor" is level and still solid, this method should work, fine. There are also products like Schluter Systems that give such jobs a bit more stability and longevity. But for the floor in this example, I hardly think such a product would be needed to add to the life of the new floor. Thank you.
I have tile floor in both bathrooms, house built in 60’s & i hate it. Was wondering what I was going to do other then rip the tile out or lay down a cement subfloor. Of course removing the toilet made it look easier to do. Nice job.
Looks good to me. Even if, as some claim, the tile does not last for several years, it will be easy to replace as it is a floating floor. Much easier to replace than cracked tile.
It's been about 3 years since the project was done and It still looks great!!! 4.11.2020.. I guess it was a job well done. There have been a lot of critics about the floors gonna bow. Not ! it's 3 feet wide, how much gap do you think it's gonna need? lol..
It doesn't need gaps if it's vinyl, I think that is what the critics were so confused about....wood needs expansion gaps, vinyl material does not. I have this flooring in all of my bathrooms,plus my laundry room. What I've learned is if you don't get is pushed together tight enough from wall to wall, then it starts to spread apart leaving gaps between the planks I the the center of the room. The issue with vinyl planks is the opposite of wood lol
Hi, I really admire your project. Do you know what the brand or type of the underlayment you used is? I want to follow your design. Thanks in advance!!
it's not meant to be tight it's a lose fit system thus the 5mm relief perimeter and moulding over top, if your joints are bowing up because of pressure it's not right. great DIY job tho, thumbs up from me
oh where your floor hits the architraves around the internal door is where you under cut the jam so the plank slides under then you wouldn't have to bring the round over like that 11:24 kind of hard to do without multi tool tho lol
in such a small area, you're not seeing expansion like you'd think. left a slight gap on the other side. the side you're cutting it, is where you should leave the gap.
i was going to do stick and peel vinyl over tile and regrout to get it level instead of underlayment. Never in my life have i seen it done till now although i sure thought about it cuz am not about to spend hours taking tile off.
Vinyl is an overall short-lived proposition because it is not at all as durable. As scratches and abrasions happen to this much softer surface dirt will enter the cuts and scratches and you can't clean the scratches out. Laminates are worse because they absorb water into the edges, swell up and then the veneer gets chipped. If you're flipping the home go for it but down the road anyone installing these floors will wish they had installed porcelain faux wood plank. Even if you chip it it's way easier to remove and replace as long as you save the leftovers in your garage.
I used 12mm laminate in my house except for bath. kitchenand bedrooms. It never swelled and I never have any chipping problems. But I use the appropriate cleaner (no water) for them and have not drug furniture around. So I assume that is the reason for no chipping. I guess if you have kids or push furniture around you might have swelling, chipping etc. Mine still look new after 7 years.
It's meant to be a floating floor,you was suppose to use a spacer between the flooring and the wall or molding,then after it's completely down remove the spacer prior to 1/4 round, leave it lose around the perimeter for expansion, and when you put the 1/4 round down you nail it to the wall not the floor. But I've seen it like you have done it, but if not careful the flooring can bow on you later down the road.
Good point. An added bonus to the 1/4 round nailed to the base is that someone can easily to remove them in the future since it's not attached to the floor!
I love the duct tape idea! I'm about to do this in the kitchen and was thinking about using more grout to level up the grout lines but duct tape seems brilliant and much easier. Is it still holding up 2 years later?
The tile I have has many random high spots. Do you think pouring a self leveling substance like LevelQuik on top of the tile, followed by underlayment and vinyl is an option???
That would be a great idea when considering having a level floor. You may want to consider the pros and cons of it as if you feel it will raise the floor too much. It never hurts ripping out that old nasty tile as it can eventually come loose due to moisture or voids under the tile and replace some of the thickness with hardy or other subflooring. If its not a concern and your confident enough go for it!
I im so happy I found this video. Do you think if I follow your steps I can use it with a place I’m renting for a year then take it up after my lease is up?
You could do that and take the floor up and re-use the flooring in another place. The floor underneath will still be as it was when you laid the vinyl plank. BUT - the trim would have to be taken off and put back, and in doing that the lower walls might get damaged and have to be repainted. Or if you would use 1/4 round along the bottom instead of taking up the trim, the 1/4 round would have to be removed, than the trim would just need repainted and caulked. The answer to your question is yes it could be done as you mentioned. However it would take some work and maybe a lot of touching up once removed. Seems to be a lot of work for a 1 year lease. But if you don't mind the work, or you were to renew for a longer period. Anyways. hope this helps. thanks for watching
If the vinyl does not require a underlayment it will void your warranty with the manufacture so if anything goes wrong in the future you will not be covered
My bathroom floor (actually my whole house) is pretty uneven. Several tiles are cracked. The floor is just not rigid enough for ceramic tile. Anyway I would like to put something more flexible over the tile. Do you think these planks would work on an uneven floor or should I look at a sheet product?
I guess it all depends on "How uneven" your tile is. We have a couple spots where the tile under our vinyl plank is uneven (example: one of the dining room chair legs was off the tile, and the other feet were touching so the chair would rock a little when you moved in it). We went over it with the plank and chairs in that spot don't rock anymore and you can't see or tell that it is uneven at that spot. We just went for it. But I can't promise that if you did this, that you would get the same results. This is the only floor I've ever done it on, with that said, I would do it again to another floor without hesitation. But if our tile had been totally ruined and damaged already, I wouldn't have cared about saving it and probably would've just tore it outthe old tiles and then put the plank down.
I got tiles in my whole house wanna do vinyl planks over tiles I was afraid to do that coz have radiant heat is this plank over tiles effect heat .can u pls ans
I don't know how radiant heat would effect the vinyl plank over tile. All I can say is we live in Florida where we are subject to humidity and sunlight, and our floors are fine. But we also have central air conditioning, so we haven't gone through or dealt with " Radiant Heat " but I'd say this. Even in our bathroom which is ( Hot and Humid ) these vinyl planks haven't bent or buckled. We used very high quality thick planks with good underlayment.
The company that installed it first in the home we got it from was Empire Flooring in Tampa, if you'd like to call them and ask what brand of vinyl plank they use. Personally, I'm not sure what the color or brand is. We took it up from it's previous house ( that went under foreclosure ) and they sold it too us for $150 UPULLIT. So we did.. Sorry, that's all I can really say about it.
STILL LOOKS GOOD. YOU CAN CHECK OUT MY VIDEO "VINYL PLANK OVER TILE 3 YEARS LATER ' THAT I JUST PUT UP ABOUT 2 MONTHS AGO. IT SHOWS THE MOST RECENT VIDEO
What did you use to cut vinyl for the round part around the toilet base? Also how did you even remove the toilet? How do you remove one tile from the next (I'm facing a situation where I might have to move in about two years so if I buy and lay this I want to remove it to reuse in the next place)? What is that kit called, the one you use to knock it in and the triangle you used to cut? how has the tile in toilet held up where you said it was 'really tight', been watching alot of installation videos where they recommend a slight gap at the end so the flooring can expand?
If you can't remove a toilet. You probably shouldn't be doing this job.......just saying....well hell there's always a TH-cam video to explain even the most simplest of things. Like reading a book. Or applying for a position with a contractor to learn the trade and then apply what you know works and is the right way...... Remember it's always more costly doing it the wrong way. Learn that and you will achieve enlightenment grasshopper
That triangle thingy is called a speed square if not the most vital tool for any carpenter it servers many functional purposes this just being a great straight edge for scoring your flooring..... try reading a speed square and see if you can make sense of one.... kinda tricky at first but quickly becoming your new favorite tool 🔧
@@chriswilliams101 hahaha yeah definitely not planning to remove my toilet even after watching people on TH-cam do it, I just figured it never hurts to ask, also in the year since I've asked the question I've been doing alot of minor diy around the house and I feel so much more informed about how to maintain and repair things it makes me shake my head that absolutely none of these basics were taught in home ec in school(I'm from Singapore)
@@TheDingfish you are lucky to get Home ec in school anymore in America. I know when I went all we learned was how to sew, make a pillow, how to cook, engrave our name in a wooden block, make something out of plastic and place block letters to print a t-shirt. Only the cooking class was worth anything for my normal life.Though what I "learned in school" my mother already taught me before I was 9 years old. School waited until I was 12 to supposedly "teach" me how to boil water, make orange juice from frozen and make meatballs and noodles. LOL!!! Oh i forgot the cookies and brownies we made as well. What 12 year old girl does not know how to make home made cookies? Just saying. It would be great if school would teach something educational like how to maintain your appliances or home or apartment once you move out. That would be worth the whole 12 years spent there after they supposedly taught you how to read. Only 2/3 kids graduate reading past a 3rd grade level in America the rest are ranged between 5th and 7th grade with a minority reading 9th grade to-college level. I just found out you only legally need to educate your child to the 8th grade to not be found educationally neglectful. They probably do this because our school system fails miserably at teaching our kids anything these days so they cant blame a parent for not doing something they have repeatedly have shown they cant even do.
It actually helps with the grooves in the tile not being emphasized as well. It will help with acoustics and comfort but it also does help with the grooves not showing through. There are corkboard planks made now that are excellent for going directly over tile.
This is vinyl plank. It's basically plastic. You could throw them in a pool and a month later, fish them out and put them down on your floor. They are specifically made for areas that tend to get wet. Mainly kitchens and bathrooms
@@speaknsee I just meant It may look odd usually I see tile in the bathroom and kitchen and wood floor through the rest of the house. Your not wrong though
@@salami99 oh' I'm sorry I misunderstood. My bad. I used to feel the same exact way. It was one of the reasons I was skeptical of putting it over our tile. But once I did, we really liked it. However, if we ever decide that we don't like it anymore, we can just pull it up and Viola, Tile is underneath:) .. thanks for watching
I have a tile in my bathroom. Having a tile in my bathroom especially the subway looking ones makes me eerie feels like the feet is cold and seems like everywhere is wet. with wood or laminated fake wood we had in our old apartment it felt comfortable and warm to the feet no matter the weather. personal opinion i guess.
Thanks for sharing. I wonder if you remove the Allure (vinyl wood-look plank) later, whether the tile underneath would still be in good shape? Thoughts or comments?
I know this is an older video but maybe someone can answer this…if you are putting the lvp over tile and then under the toilet, did you have issues with the length of the bolts that hold toilet down? Or do they not bolt into the LVP?
Thanks for the video. Appreciate the true weekend warrior project. I’ve seen it’s been a few months since you posted the original, how does it look now? No issue with the high points or the vinyl or it bowing?
I just did a new video showing the floor ( vinyl directly over tile 210 days later ). No high or low points, no bowing or any issues to speak of. thanks for the reply.
Agreed that's what I do 21 years in this business never 1 floor job repaired by doing this.... Facts non gritty self leveler compound fills grout lines knifed clean light hand sand the rock and roll 👌 never had an issue stays level no bunching smooth transition and waterproof for life
Have Tile in my kitchen and carpet in living room. Want to put laminate tile over all of it but not sure how to handle the height difference from floor slab and tile. Any suggestions?
putting this type of flooring in your bathroom is a potential nightmare. water will inevitably get under it. ie a tolliet over flow and cause a mold problem.
This type of flooring is known best for being a bathroom/kitchen type of flooring. No water should ever get under it, and if water does get under it, it's plastic/vinyl. Better than wood for that matter.
You can add an additional wax ring or buy a thicker one to raise the height of the seal, just in case. Many times, people do not consider this issue and end up with a slow, seepage leak that eventually rots the sub-floor.
This answered my question specifically, thank you. I am considering doing this but was worried that the toilet would not seat to the ring. Did not know there were different thicknesses of wax rings.
Qaseem M most importantly, you will definitely need a thick plank. They make so many types of underlayment, just don't get the cheapest one. Ours was like a grey felt on one side and rubber on the back.
with the new vinyl planking click it type you are not supposed to use any underlayment it is contra indicated .. It looks like you really enjoy renovating (: love that you do it yourself ! I have a perfectionist for a husband so he takes forever to get' er done but I must admit he does do an amazing job .. I myself like to fudge a few things lol Thanks for taking the time to share your project.
chaalaya we live in north west fla. We did this DIY. Since we had already done our kitchen and dining room over tile and loved the results, then we decided to do our guest bathroom. Thanks
We pulled this flooring from another home and got a great deal. The Box says " HomeStyleCollection " American Hickory Sienna. The measurements of the planks are ( Gauge: 1/6" / 4.2mm ) ( Plank 2.36 sq.ft. / 7in x 48in.(180mm x 1220mm) ( Box 18.91 sq.ft / 1.76M2 )8 Planks per box. The box is Orange and white with grey borders. This is all the info I have on the brand. I looked for it online and couldn't find it, so I'm just relaying to you what the box says. Might be a special order brand since this plank was originally installed by Empire Flooring. Hope this helps
speaknsee good morning. If I can’t not find this brand do I just go by the measurements you mentioned in the description? I want to get grey color but I’m not sure what all to look for when I go to the store. Can you make a list of what all is needed
No, the padding they used to lay over is only taped at the seams. The floors will looks exactly the same once this plank is tore out... which wont be long imo.
@@robd5326 I care!!! The reason I asked is because I'm renting an apartment so when I leave I want to make sure nothing is left on the tile. If there is residue they will charge me! The question was for the person who made the video. Your response was not need so stop being ignorant, if you don't know why I ask.
@@Prettygall23 no it won't leave a residue. You would have to tear up the quarter round (if your apartment has quarter round, it's the piece of trim on the very bottom of the base trim, looks like a quarter of a pie) and put it back afterwards. If you are very careful you could reuse the trim but it's pretty easy to break. It wouldn't be hard if you had all the tools and you dont break the trim but and this is a big but, things always happen when you do these sorts of jobs. It never fails something will go wrong and then you have to fix more stuff. So long story short, I wouldn't do it unless you are good at installing trim, filling the nail holes, painting etc. I know it doesn't seem like much but it might be more trouble than it's worth. Sorry so long. And don't listen to them, some folks can't wait to insult others, it's a damn shame. Have a good one
And with removing the baseboard, you will have to paint your walls. And with painting your lower walls you will have to paint your entire walls. 1/4 round doesn't look as good i agree, but it's much faster and more simple for a DIY project.
@@speaknsee There is no need to paint the walls if you up size your trim to a 1x4/1x6 plank. Expensive, but allows for maximum cover up!! Good vid, thanks for being the guinea pig!
Every professional I've had come check mine out (exactly like your tile) they're saying I can't do this 😓 but every brand luxury vinyl I've looked at said it can go right over it.😔
I can't tell you to do it because, sometimes things may go wrong, I get it , that's life. All i can say is I'm not at professional but I saved about 10K doing this in my bathrooms/ dining and kitchen area. And I bought my daughter a car for graduation with the xtra money. I agree, it's not perfect and I do nit pic some spots where it may have been better if I tore up the tile. 'But honestly, nobody notices it but me. I'm totally content with my choice to do it this way. THANKS FOR WATCHING. :)
This hurts my soul to see. Not bad for a DIY but these floors will not last, depends on what your looking for out of your floor but in my professional opinion this is such a waste of money...
Just wondering why you say it's a waste of money. I'm considering vinyl planks over our tiles (whole house is tiled) because it seems cheaper and less messy to go over the top. Plus we can do it ourselves. But interested to hear if there is hidden costs etc?
@@Stealth12354 The substrate for click plank needs to be pretty level to prevent the joints from moving and slipping or breaking apart over time. Manufacturer's specifications typically allow for 1/16" drop within 3 ft. Once you figure for the drop in the grout lines I can almost guarantee this substrate didn't meet those standards even if the ceramic was laid perfectly level. In my professional opinion the ceramic should have been torn out or self leveled before installation of the plank.
This floor is over 2 years old now, and it's still looks and feels amazing. So to all those who are watching this, Don't go with the nay sayers. Go with those who have done it and are living it. Thanks :) It has done all the expanding it's gonna do, hasn't bowed.
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I asked you a question on one of your videos but just found the answer on this one! This is awesome; thank you for posting.
Thanks for making this, I'm wanting to do this with my entry room but have unlevel tiles like that and didn't think I could without tearing tiles
Just the video I was looking for I have heaving tile floor as well and looking to install vinyl. Thanks so much for being our guinea pigs 😆
Thanks so much!!! We have some tile, too, and will be doing loose lay tiles, too. This is the best video ever :-)
Nice work. I particularly like the use of lay underneath. Saves a lot of time, effort, and $. As long as the "floor beneath the floor" is level and still solid, this method should work, fine. There are also products like Schluter Systems that give such jobs a bit more stability and longevity. But for the floor in this example, I hardly think such a product would be needed to add to the life of the new floor. Thank you.
I have tile floor in both bathrooms, house built in 60’s & i hate it. Was wondering what I was going to do other then rip the tile out or lay down a cement subfloor. Of course removing the toilet made it look easier to do. Nice job.
Very Interesting project!!!!
Looks good to me. Even if, as some claim, the tile does not last for several years, it will be easy to replace as it is a floating floor. Much easier to replace than cracked tile.
It's going on 2 years now and the flooring doesn't look a day older than when it was new. Very happy with it. Thanks for your comment.
speaknsee hello great video. I seen this comment was a year ago, how is it holding up now
BEAUTIFUL JOB. I'M GOING TO TRY IT
No it doesn't make any sound when you walk on it. it's pretty solid. It's on top of an underlayment so maybe that's a factor.
It's been about 3 years since the project was done and It still looks great!!! 4.11.2020.. I guess it was a job well done. There have been a lot of critics about the floors gonna bow. Not ! it's 3 feet wide, how much gap do you think it's gonna need? lol..
Can you see any of the grout lines through it?
@@zacharygraham5266 no
It doesn't need gaps if it's vinyl, I think that is what the critics were so confused about....wood needs expansion gaps, vinyl material does not.
I have this flooring in all of my bathrooms,plus my laundry room. What I've learned is if you don't get is pushed together tight enough from wall to wall, then it starts to spread apart leaving gaps between the planks I the the center of the room. The issue with vinyl planks is the opposite of wood lol
What is that underlay material that you used ?? Not sure what underlay material should be used as there are a few different underlays available to buy
@@moxiemusic any underlayment is fine really. There are some Cork vinyl plank floors that don't require underlayment.
I’m considering doing this
Does the floor creak or make any sounds due to the grout lines from the tile?
Very nice! Thank you!
Did you have any issues installing the toilet back as the floor is higher now after you installed the vinyl tiles?
Looks really great- you did a great job
Hi, I really admire your project. Do you know what the brand or type of the underlayment you used is? I want to follow your design. Thanks in advance!!
it's not meant to be tight it's a lose fit system thus the 5mm relief perimeter and moulding over top, if your joints are bowing up because of pressure it's not right. great DIY job tho, thumbs up from me
oh where your floor hits the architraves around the internal door is where you under cut the jam so the plank slides under then you wouldn't have to bring the round over like that 11:24 kind of hard to do without multi tool tho lol
in such a small area, you're not seeing expansion like you'd think. left a slight gap on the other side. the side you're cutting it, is where you should leave the gap.
I have the same tile floor. Does it fix the uneven tile after use the underlayment? Thanks
i was going to do stick and peel vinyl over tile and regrout to get it level instead of underlayment. Never in my life have i seen it done till now although i sure thought about it cuz am not about to spend hours taking tile off.
ivette santana I put stick tiles over my ceramic tile in my bathroom a year ago and it looks amazing! Sticky sounding at 1st but now it’s great!
Did you have to repair any tiles before putting the sticky tiles down?
Vinyl is an overall short-lived proposition because it is not at all as durable. As scratches and abrasions happen to this much softer surface dirt will enter the cuts and scratches and you can't clean the scratches out. Laminates are worse because they absorb water into the edges, swell up and then the veneer gets chipped. If you're flipping the home go for it but down the road anyone installing these floors will wish they had installed porcelain faux wood plank. Even if you chip it it's way easier to remove and replace as long as you save the leftovers in your garage.
I used 12mm laminate in my house except for bath. kitchenand bedrooms. It never swelled and I never have any chipping problems. But I use the appropriate cleaner (no water) for them and have not drug furniture around. So I assume that is the reason for no chipping. I guess if you have kids or push furniture around you might have swelling, chipping etc. Mine still look new after 7 years.
It's meant to be a floating floor,you was suppose to use a spacer between the flooring and the wall or molding,then after it's completely down remove the spacer prior to 1/4 round, leave it lose around the perimeter for expansion, and when you put the 1/4 round down you nail it to the wall not the floor. But I've seen it like you have done it, but if not careful the flooring can bow on you later down the road.
Good point. An added bonus to the 1/4 round nailed to the base is that someone can easily to remove them in the future since it's not attached to the floor!
I love the duct tape idea! I'm about to do this in the kitchen and was thinking about using more grout to level up the grout lines but duct tape seems brilliant and much easier. Is it still holding up 2 years later?
Nevermind, I found your 2 year later video. Thank you for posting all this!
It's holding up nicely. I did a 2 1/2 years later video so show. th-cam.com/video/79lvSWGIHIo/w-d-xo.html
The tile I have has many random high spots. Do you think pouring a self leveling substance like LevelQuik on top of the tile, followed by underlayment and vinyl is an option???
That would be a great idea when considering having a level floor. You may want to consider the pros and cons of it as if you feel it will raise the floor too much. It never hurts ripping out that old nasty tile as it can eventually come loose due to moisture or voids under the tile and replace some of the thickness with hardy or other subflooring. If its not a concern and your confident enough go for it!
I im so happy I found this video. Do you think if I follow your steps I can use it with a place I’m renting for a year then take it up after my lease is up?
You could do that and take the floor up and re-use the flooring in another place. The floor underneath will still be as it was when you laid the vinyl plank. BUT - the trim would have to be taken off and put back, and in doing that the lower walls might get damaged and have to be repainted. Or if you would use 1/4 round along the bottom instead of taking up the trim, the 1/4 round would have to be removed, than the trim would just need repainted and caulked. The answer to your question is yes it could be done as you mentioned. However it would take some work and maybe a lot of touching up once removed. Seems to be a lot of work for a 1 year lease. But if you don't mind the work, or you were to renew for a longer period. Anyways. hope this helps. thanks for watching
speaknsee thank you so much for the info I think I will do it.
@@prettyaslanae If you have any questions along the way, feel free to ask. I'll be glad to help where I can. thanks for watching:)
Hi! I know it's been a few years since this video was uploaded. Do you remember the color of the wood plank you used? Thank you!
If the vinyl does not require a underlayment it will void your warranty with the manufacture so if anything goes wrong in the future you will not be covered
I removed this vinyl plank from an existing home so that alone voided the warranty. Also, there is no warranty going over tile PERIOD.
My bathroom floor (actually my whole house) is pretty uneven. Several tiles are cracked. The floor is just not rigid enough for ceramic tile. Anyway I would like to put something more flexible over the tile. Do you think these planks would work on an uneven floor or should I look at a sheet product?
I guess it all depends on "How uneven" your tile is. We have a couple spots where the tile under our vinyl plank is uneven (example: one of the dining room chair legs was off the tile, and the other feet were touching so the chair would rock a little when you moved in it). We went over it with the plank and chairs in that spot don't rock anymore and you can't see or tell that it is uneven at that spot. We just went for it. But I can't promise that if you did this, that you would get the same results. This is the only floor I've ever done it on, with that said, I would do it again to another floor without hesitation. But if our tile had been totally ruined and damaged already, I wouldn't have cared about saving it and probably would've just tore it outthe old tiles and then put the plank down.
What is the gray stuff called you put down before the vinyl?
underlayment
Fantastic work! Will you be doing more videos like this?
Best Access Doors yes we will be doing updates and more videos about this process. Thanks
What to do when bathroom walls are ceramic tiled , how do you get the corner molding to hold down the vinyl tiles ??
I got tiles in my whole house wanna do vinyl planks over tiles I was afraid to do that coz have radiant heat is this plank over tiles effect heat .can u pls ans
I don't know how radiant heat would effect the vinyl plank over tile. All I can say is we live in Florida where we are subject to humidity and sunlight, and our floors are fine. But we also have central air conditioning, so we haven't gone through or dealt with " Radiant Heat " but I'd say this. Even in our bathroom which is ( Hot and Humid ) these vinyl planks haven't bent or buckled. We used very high quality thick planks with good underlayment.
@@speaknsee check the manufacturer of the vinyl planks. It usually says not to be used with radiant heat systems in the install instructions
@@dvc801 NOT TRUE MANY ARE MADE ESPECIALLY FOR RADIANT HEAT
@@debski32 omg why are you yelling... 😂
We are thinking of doing this style of flooring over ceramic tile. I really like the look of the floor. What is the brand and color of the flooring?
The company that installed it first in the home we got it from was Empire Flooring in Tampa, if you'd like to call them and ask what brand of vinyl plank they use. Personally, I'm not sure what the color or brand is. We took it up from it's previous house ( that went under foreclosure ) and they sold it too us for $150 UPULLIT. So we did.. Sorry, that's all I can really say about it.
How is the flooring holding up now...is there a bow or underneath grout showing up?...if possible please share some pics .
STILL LOOKS GOOD. YOU CAN CHECK OUT MY VIDEO "VINYL PLANK OVER TILE 3 YEARS LATER ' THAT I JUST PUT UP ABOUT 2 MONTHS AGO. IT SHOWS THE MOST RECENT VIDEO
How do I transition from vinyl tile to already laid carpet?
What did you use to cut vinyl for the round part around the toilet base? Also how did you even remove the toilet? How do you remove one tile from the next (I'm facing a situation where I might have to move in about two years so if I buy and lay this I want to remove it to reuse in the next place)? What is that kit called, the one you use to knock it in and the triangle you used to cut? how has the tile in toilet held up where you said it was 'really tight', been watching alot of installation videos where they recommend a slight gap at the end so the flooring can expand?
If you can't remove a toilet. You probably shouldn't be doing this job.......just saying....well hell there's always a TH-cam video to explain even the most simplest of things. Like reading a book. Or applying for a position with a contractor to learn the trade and then apply what you know works and is the right way...... Remember it's always more costly doing it the wrong way. Learn that and you will achieve enlightenment grasshopper
That triangle thingy is called a speed square if not the most vital tool for any carpenter it servers many functional purposes this just being a great straight edge for scoring your flooring..... try reading a speed square and see if you can make sense of one.... kinda tricky at first but quickly becoming your new favorite tool 🔧
@@chriswilliams101 hahaha yeah definitely not planning to remove my toilet even after watching people on TH-cam do it, I just figured it never hurts to ask, also in the year since I've asked the question I've been doing alot of minor diy around the house and I feel so much more informed about how to maintain and repair things it makes me shake my head that absolutely none of these basics were taught in home ec in school(I'm from Singapore)
@@TheDingfish you are lucky to get Home ec in school anymore in America. I know when I went all we learned was how to sew, make a pillow, how to cook, engrave our name in a wooden block, make something out of plastic and place block letters to print a t-shirt. Only the cooking class was worth anything for my normal life.Though what I "learned in school" my mother already taught me before I was 9 years old. School waited until I was 12 to supposedly "teach" me how to boil water, make orange juice from frozen and make meatballs and noodles. LOL!!! Oh i forgot the cookies and brownies we made as well. What 12 year old girl does not know how to make home made cookies? Just saying.
It would be great if school would teach something educational like how to maintain your appliances or home or apartment once you move out. That would be worth the whole 12 years spent there after they supposedly taught you how to read. Only 2/3 kids graduate reading past a 3rd grade level in America the rest are ranged between 5th and 7th grade with a minority reading 9th grade to-college level. I just found out you only legally need to educate your child to the 8th grade to not be found educationally neglectful. They probably do this because our school system fails miserably at teaching our kids anything these days so they cant blame a parent for not doing something they have repeatedly have shown they cant even do.
Use a heat gun make the tile flexible and slowly bit by bit cut the tile round the toilet very easy to do.
Invest in a Oscillating Tool my man. Good job nonetheless!
lol.. yes, I ended up borrowing my friend's oscillating tool, that thing was awesome.
Oscillating tool is my best friend while doing demo and installing pool tile.
Is the underlayment required? Google says the tile will work fine regarding moisture, it’s only for acoustic and comfort purposes. Is this true?
It actually helps with the grooves in the tile not being emphasized as well. It will help with acoustics and comfort but it also does help with the grooves not showing through. There are corkboard planks made now that are excellent for going directly over tile.
What type of tape, or product did you use over the grout seams of the tiles?
We just used duct tape. it was my daughters so it just so happened to be pink. but you could use any kind of tape or something to fill it. thanks
Good job but just one problem there is no such word as underlayment! It is just underlay.
Idk about wood floor in the bathroom. Even if it's laminate doesn't that look weird?
This is vinyl plank. It's basically plastic. You could throw them in a pool and a month later, fish them out and put them down on your floor. They are specifically made for areas that tend to get wet. Mainly kitchens and bathrooms
@@speaknsee I just meant It may look odd usually I see tile in the bathroom and kitchen and wood floor through the rest of the house. Your not wrong though
@@salami99 oh' I'm sorry I misunderstood. My bad. I used to feel the same exact way. It was one of the reasons I was skeptical of putting it over our tile. But once I did, we really liked it. However, if we ever decide that we don't like it anymore, we can just pull it up and Viola, Tile is underneath:) .. thanks for watching
I have a tile in my bathroom. Having a tile in my bathroom especially the subway looking ones makes me eerie feels like the feet is cold and seems like everywhere is wet. with wood or laminated fake wood we had in our old apartment it felt comfortable and warm to the feet no matter the weather. personal opinion i guess.
Cutting against your body is a safety hazard other then that I like the video
Thanks for sharing. I wonder if you remove the Allure (vinyl wood-look plank) later, whether the tile underneath would still be in good shape? Thoughts or comments?
37 years in flooring..yes it would be virtually the same
Agreed tile still is tile and isn't going anywhere. Same everything probably still clean from the the prior floor prep before installation 😉👍
I know this is an older video but maybe someone can answer this…if you are putting the lvp over tile and then under the toilet, did you have issues with the length of the bolts that hold toilet down? Or do they not bolt into the LVP?
No issues with that. The vinyl planks are very thin and it didn't affect putting the toilet back in. thanks for watching.
@@speaknsee thank you so much
What is that first black layer you put on the floor called??
underlayment
Holy fuck this guy is the real life Tim allan... cutting the planks cringed
do you seal the floor/toilet pipe opening?
Yes you need to buy a new wax ring. That will seal it.
Yes you can silicone around it
Taping over grout line ? Level the grout lines with self leveling concrete
It's a rental
Thanks for the video. Appreciate the true weekend warrior project. I’ve seen it’s been a few months since you posted the original, how does it look now? No issue with the high points or the vinyl or it bowing?
I just did a new video showing the floor ( vinyl directly over tile 210 days later ). No high or low points, no bowing or any issues to speak of. thanks for the reply.
Thanks, I just watched the video. Nice job!
why not use a leveling compund?
Not a good thing to put leveling compound over tile. This is the quick and ez DIY gig.
Agreed that's what I do 21 years in this business never 1 floor job repaired by doing this.... Facts non gritty self leveler compound fills grout lines knifed clean light hand sand the rock and roll 👌 never had an issue stays level no bunching smooth transition and waterproof for life
You never go that tight against the edge you need to leave room for expansion.
Vinyl doesnt expand like laminate moron. Bet you felt smart until now.
@Kevin Garvoni Boi that means nothing moon light is right lvp doesn't expand enough for it to matter.
Have Tile in my kitchen and carpet in living room. Want to put laminate tile over all of it but not sure how to handle the height difference from floor slab and tile. Any suggestions?
Im not sure how well laminate would work over tile.
did u glue it?
You do not use glue, I did not glue it
At 10:40, not true. The tightness will ruin the floor because it will bow up when it expands. Thanks for your video though.
It's been 3 years now, still looks great and with an area as small as this, not much expanding going on.
putting this type of flooring in your bathroom is a potential nightmare. water will inevitably get under it. ie a tolliet over flow and cause a mold problem.
This type of flooring is known best for being a bathroom/kitchen type of flooring. No water should ever get under it, and if water does get under it, it's plastic/vinyl. Better than wood for that matter.
What keeps water from leaking through causing mold between tile and wood?
P.S. Franklin the flooring locks together creating a seal.
The locking system as mentioned and the caulk around the edges.
is that a professional job?
did you have trouble getting the toilet to fit on right because of the added height?
Brian Nagy no, not at all . The added height wasn't even noticeable
You can add an additional wax ring or buy a thicker one to raise the height of the seal, just in case. Many times, people do not consider this issue and end up with a slow, seepage leak that eventually rots the sub-floor.
This answered my question specifically, thank you. I am considering doing this but was worried that the toilet would not seat to the ring. Did not know there were different thicknesses of wax rings.
What type of underpayment is required when installing over ceramic tile????
Qaseem M most importantly, you will definitely need a thick plank. They make so many types of underlayment, just don't get the cheapest one. Ours was like a grey felt on one side and rubber on the back.
with the new vinyl planking click it type you are not supposed to use any underlayment it is contra indicated .. It looks like you really enjoy renovating (: love that you do it yourself ! I have a perfectionist for a husband so he takes forever to get' er done but I must admit he does do an amazing job .. I myself like to fudge a few things lol Thanks for taking the time to share your project.
What in the hell is underpayment supposed to mean?
@@speaknsee where you located? Is this job you done was for your client or just did it for you?
chaalaya we live in north west fla. We did this DIY. Since we had already done our kitchen and dining room over tile and loved the results, then we decided to do our guest bathroom. Thanks
Shouldn't cut your vinyl with your razor blade like that you're going to slice your gut open always cut away from yourself
What was the brand of luxury vinyl?
We pulled this flooring from another home and got a great deal. The Box says " HomeStyleCollection " American Hickory Sienna. The measurements of the planks are ( Gauge: 1/6" / 4.2mm ) ( Plank 2.36 sq.ft. / 7in x 48in.(180mm x 1220mm) ( Box 18.91 sq.ft / 1.76M2 )8 Planks per box. The box is Orange and white with grey borders. This is all the info I have on the brand. I looked for it online and couldn't find it, so I'm just relaying to you what the box says. Might be a special order brand since this plank was originally installed by Empire Flooring. Hope this helps
It was an orange and white box. Originally installed by Empire flooring company..
speaknsee good morning. If I can’t not find this brand do I just go by the measurements you mentioned in the description? I want to get grey color but I’m not sure what all to look for when I go to the store. Can you make a list of what all is needed
Can vinyl plank wood directly over vinyl floor?
If the floor is level it should be fine .
will this leave residue on the tile after removing it?
No, the padding they used to lay over is only taped at the seams. The floors will looks exactly the same once this plank is tore out... which wont be long imo.
Who cares about the ugly tile underneath??? He covered it for a reason.
@@robd5326 I care!!! The reason I asked is because I'm renting an apartment so when I leave I want to make sure nothing is left on the tile. If there is residue they will charge me! The question was for the person who made the video. Your response was not need so stop being ignorant, if you don't know why I ask.
Monisha Jean Do you get this flooring in Africa?
@@Prettygall23 no it won't leave a residue. You would have to tear up the quarter round (if your apartment has quarter round, it's the piece of trim on the very bottom of the base trim, looks like a quarter of a pie) and put it back afterwards. If you are very careful you could reuse the trim but it's pretty easy to break. It wouldn't be hard if you had all the tools and you dont break the trim but and this is a big but, things always happen when you do these sorts of jobs. It never fails something will go wrong and then you have to fix more stuff. So long story short, I wouldn't do it unless you are good at installing trim, filling the nail holes, painting etc. I know it doesn't seem like much but it might be more trouble than it's worth. Sorry so long. And don't listen to them, some folks can't wait to insult others, it's a damn shame. Have a good one
Need room for expansion
It has about 2" for expansion. It's been over 2 years and still looks brand new. thanks for watching.
He’s talking about against your walls so the floating floor has room to move
@@tylercrumley2788 It's not butted up against the walls. It has room for expansion. thanks for watching.
never, ever use a quarter round trim piece. looks like crap. always remove the baseboard. and I've done 500 bathrooms in last six years
only the national one day flooring companies use quarter round. a cheap looking short cut, like many mouldings
And with removing the baseboard, you will have to paint your walls. And with painting your lower walls you will have to paint your entire walls. 1/4 round doesn't look as good i agree, but it's much faster and more simple for a DIY project.
speaknsee truly appreciate your showing us the path of least resistance on these diys - thank you! and to the person holding the camera as well!
@@speaknsee the issue was the tile guys did not remove them and cut to them and grouted them in.
So yeah, 1/4 round was best option.
@@speaknsee
There is no need to paint the walls if you up size your trim to a 1x4/1x6 plank. Expensive, but allows for maximum cover up!! Good vid, thanks for being the guinea pig!
Thinset.
Omg, just use a leveler product.
You’re not leaving room on the sides for expansion.
Yup, sure did thanks
Every professional I've had come check mine out (exactly like your tile) they're saying I can't do this 😓 but every brand luxury vinyl I've looked at said it can go right over it.😔
I can't tell you to do it because, sometimes things may go wrong, I get it , that's life. All i can say is I'm not at professional but I saved about 10K doing this in my bathrooms/ dining and kitchen area. And I bought my daughter a car for graduation with the xtra money. I agree, it's not perfect and I do nit pic some spots where it may have been better if I tore up the tile. 'But honestly, nobody notices it but me. I'm totally content with my choice to do it this way. THANKS FOR WATCHING. :)
@@speaknsee ty. I'm terrible with DIY or else I'd try it. 😅 so I was hoping a pro could do it but I'm not having any luck😫
The pros don't want to do it because they don't want the liability if something goes wrong plus more $$$$ in their pockets for the Xtra work😅
Undercut your door jams
It's a rental
This guy would never install in my house!!!
Your picture is crooked bud. Please fix it.
No it's straight. it must be your comp.
He's talking about the picture on the wall near the toilet. LOL!
This hurts my soul to see. Not bad for a DIY but these floors will not last, depends on what your looking for out of your floor but in my professional opinion this is such a waste of money...
Going on over 1 1/2 years now. So glad we did this. They look great
Just wondering why you say it's a waste of money. I'm considering vinyl planks over our tiles (whole house is tiled) because it seems cheaper and less messy to go over the top. Plus we can do it ourselves. But interested to hear if there is hidden costs etc?
@@Stealth12354 The substrate for click plank needs to be pretty level to prevent the joints from moving and slipping or breaking apart over time. Manufacturer's specifications typically allow for 1/16" drop within 3 ft. Once you figure for the drop in the grout lines I can almost guarantee this substrate didn't meet those standards even if the ceramic was laid perfectly level. In my professional opinion the ceramic should have been torn out or self leveled before installation of the plank.
Is this a joke?
At 10:40, not true. The tightness will ruin the floor because it will bow up when it expands. Thanks for your video though.
This floor is over 2 years old now, and it's still looks and feels amazing. So to all those who are watching this, Don't go with the nay sayers. Go with those who have done it and are living it. Thanks :) It has done all the expanding it's gonna do, hasn't bowed.