For real, this gamemode is actually insane. I dont plan to pull ceasar and the bose just 3-4 hits to took down my team even they are fully build lv60 😓😓😓
I'm not ashamed to admit that i have a skill issue and that caesar hard carried me all the way up to floor 25. Honestly if i didn't have caesar, i'd be stuck on 24. Glad i pulled for her lol.
Don’t be upset, man I suck at dodging. I hate playing with qingyi and Caesar actually making her fun to play is a win for me. Ive already resigned from any delusions of pulling lighter and miyabi. I’ll get miyabi thus round and likely grab lighter on a rerun.
0:16 don't be, i haven't done it yet but i HOPE i struggle, that sounds like more fun for me lmao. Having skill issue is the best issue to have because you can fix it by yourself.
Caesar is objectively the single best character in the game (gameplaywise), and I'll continue to stand by it until a better version of her releases. An actual account changer and will never age poorly in this game because of what she provides. Especially if you have her Signature W-Engine too.🛡 - She's literally BUILT for ALMOST ALL endgame and high-level content with the exception of any game modes that specifically need super high DPS time trials. She has everything from atk buffs, defensive shields, enemy debuffs, an AoE atk pull to clear low-level mobs, A BLOCK/PARRY, high impact stat for stuns, and her passive fully activates in essentially every single team comp that'll ever exist in the future and currently in the present game state. Even against Physical resistant enemies you can just plug her into a team for her buffs and debuffs while your other two teammates do damage. From a game design perspective, she can do everything you want from an endgame character for gameplay.
I’m on floor 60 now. Using Avocaboo was genius during your stream, on easier stages I’ll leave an enemy alive and just around until I get my units back to good health
i think you're underestimating your skill level. if you compare yourself to other youtubers you might be below average but to the actual average player you're well above average. i've seen players pull 300 on standard banner for lycaon, pull for limited characters they don't want, build nicole or ben for dps, ect. if you know how the developers expect players to play you are already slightly above average
ALG drop the Caesar and tower videos Miyabi has been announced this is all you’re allowed to talk about for the next 2 months In all seriousness thanks for the uploads, love your channel, keep up the great work
If you're someone who's struggling to beat the difficult content and you don't have Caesar, I highly recommend building Ben! Everyone really needs to stop sleeping on this character, because Ben is very strong, especially if you also have his weapon. He's literally designed to be a tank, so he'll help if you're struggling defensively. Ben is basically just the "We have Caesar at home" character.
@@Slybandito7 Yeah, it's no problem if you simply don't get hit. Avoiding getting hit is super easy when you have two super aggressive bosses at the same time, right? Good thing they removed the indicator flashes above level 25 so that it doesn't become too boring...
@@Slybandito7 That's true, it's just a recommendation to players that are having a hard time. I personally am really good at the game, but even I still get hit sometimes. I've heard enemies at higher levels hit pretty hard, so a sheild may become essential at some point.
@@supervegeta881 Floor 20+ is basically you get to get hit once per character if they're built enough, next one is death. (Without Caesar). With very invested other shielders I can see you getting enough for another hit or two.
Guys... if the entire community of a gacha game is comparing a character to Zhongli, do NOT skip them lol. I am 100% certain that Caesar is here to stay and will be relevant in endgame content for years to come. An attack buffer, res shredder, shielder, AND stunner... all in ONE??! With a sprinkle of crowd control in there too???!! Come on now...
For anyone with Jane whos watching his commentary around 9 mins: using janes EX special makes you immune to dmg for the whole spin. its actually a good way to avoid taking any damage. its ONLY when you can make it EX but you are invulnerable till you hit the floor again.
mean comments aside I still think skipping characters for ones that you like is fine and not really a mistake per se. I wasn’t playing when she was released and while I’d want her for meta reasons, I don’t prefer her design over all the other limited characters thus far so I can only hope they release a defense character that I like soon enough (and seth is cuter anyway).
It's not a mistake like you're doomed. But it is a mistake for those who want to optimize their accounts for endgame performance. The better you do in endgame the more rewards you get in the long run.
Caesar at m2 with her weapon is so far above any other support or even character in the game it’s crazy. You can take a level 1 Billy with the buffs m2r1 Caesar gives and clear shiyu 7 (I’ve done it lol, level 1 Billy with level 1 weapon and just Caesar off field giving buff. Though to be transparent my Billy was m6)
The moment I saw that Caesar had knockback safety, I pulled her so I can play my Ellen more comfy. Off-field supports are going to be way moving forward into meta units, imo. You can only on-field one character, while two are off-fielders. So off-fielders are going to be way more important, especially as time passes.
with just welkins and logging in every day, i had enough pulls for 1 pity attempt on EVERY banner. I have pulled everyone up to Yanagi. Ellen (lost to Lyacon) Zhu Yuan (Guaranteed and Early, won WEgine as well) Qingyi (lost to Nekomata) Jane Doe (Guaranteed) Ceasar (Won) Burnice (Won) Yanagi (Lost to Nekomata) My plan now is to save my Guarantee for Miyabi and I will make lighter my first skip ever since the game started. considering I have Lyacon, I feel that he will be a better support than Lighter will be for Miyabi (assuming Miyabi is still ice element) I also pulled Rina and Soldier 11 from the standard banner, and I have all the standard WEngines, with the exception of Grace and Soldier 11's WEngines. Right now, I have 34 pulls left after Yanagi attempts (lost 50/50 at 60 pulls) So I'm planning on M0W1 Miyabi and I think I might finally do a big boy swipe for her too. We'll see. But the point of what I'm saying, is that ZZZ has been the only game where just playing the game and doing the minimum spending, (just welkins, i never even bought a BP) I had been able to gain enough pull income to pull on EVERY banner, which is ridiculous. Even very generous games, like Azur Lane or Echocalypse, you need to pull multiple copies to make the characters viable. With ZZZ, you just need 1 copy, and anything else is just QoL/Power that will make the game easier, but it strictly luxury. I really like this game.
Here’s a little validation for you. Miyabi is confirmed to be anomaly. She also got part of kit leaked and she requires another anomaly agent or same faction member to activate her additional core ability. Lycaon with soukaku is already a better option for her then lighter due to the fact that she won’t activate his additional ability and he can’t activate hers. Save your polychrome all for Miyabi and may you win!🫡
I have had the opposite experience. Pity every time, and lost all but one of my 50/50s. I don’t wanna spend money on this game because it doesn’t feel good as often as I’ve lost, and been unlucky so far, and without the monthly pass, you’re not gonna get enough currency or strong enough characters to beat the game modes that give you more currency. The is the only f2p account I genuinely don’t think works fine.
Same for me, only monthly poluchrome and daily Ellen + Wengine ( Won in first 10 pulls, Lost to Hellfire gear, go all the way up to 140 pulls and guaranteed the her Signature ) Zhu Yuan ( Won, 67 pulls, skip Wengine ) Skip Qingyi Jane Doe ( Lost to Grace, go all the way up to 152 pulls and guaranteed ) Caesar + Wengine( Lost to Rina but got Caesar in next 10 pulls, 90 pulls in total. 1 tap her Wengine) Burnice ( Lost to Grace again, go all the way up to 158 pulls and guaranteed ) 45 pulls on Yanagi banner, I'm not sure if I want to get her or just save for Miyabi instead, I'll skip Lighter.
"Battle Tower makes Caesar SSS Tier". She always has been. No idea how you never got that. Even, if you disregard that shield, 1K attack for doing a few warmup stretches when the fight begins, is nuts. That amazing shield on top of that, is gravy on gravy. And, in my opinion the thing that ties everything together, the absolute bonkers interrupt resistance on top of that. Caesar is so "comfy", that I would not have been surprised, if people "unlearned" how to play this game properly before the tower mode came out. Again, no idea how you are only understanding that now when it quite literally hits you in the face.
I lucked out on getting M1W1 Caesar as a VERY low spending player, and I thank whoever was looking out for me everyday. Floors 15+ would've been absolute hell for me 💀.
caesar has insanely long i-frames when coming in from perfect assist, gives me a nice breather inbetween dopple jane's ultimate but even then i still relied heavily on dodging, the shield just gives me more room for the occasional mistake (mostly caused by too much going on all at once) my only mistake for battle tower was building up exploreboo over avocaboo thinking the shield would be of help in ambush node (it's so miniscule it doesn't even matter)
As someone who did the 300 pull standard before I knew what I was doing and now only have two limited agents + one limited wengine, I feel like I unintentionally built up the perfect agents for this mode lmao. I handled fire and physical with Caesar/Lucy/Piper, ether with Zhu Yuan/Caesar/Nicole, and electric with Grace/Seth/Caesar. So glad I won the lottery on Caesar’s w-engine with zero pity. Looking forward, I have 120+ pulls and some pity already built up for Lighter, and then hopefully I have a chance at Miyabi!
I pulled for Burnice, so... 25 is probably as high as I'll go Not your fault, ofc. I pulled Burnice because I liked her better than Caesar gameplay wise, tied for personality
Yeah... this was 100% seeable. I could just not understand why you, and a few other cc's (the ones on that podcast) were SO anti-Caesar hype. Just on this bizarre delusion that "if you can beat endgame content now, you'll always be able to beat it," like its never gonna get harder. It's almost cc malpractice
It's not anti-Caesar hype, it's cope. Literally anyone could tell Caesar would be the mvp char to have, but they have to convince themselves that they are making good decisions after pulling for the Jane trap (literally the least value char to pull for since Piper basically performs at 3/4'ths of her level and more than makes up for it with Caesar) and then also wanting Burnice.
Floor 25 without Caesar, harder than average but on the flip side a LOT more fun and rewarding. Still happy I didn’t pull her so I get to experience a challenging mode ^^
Bruh I love your videos. I had the same experience where I was struggling to clear something while streaming but when you come back the next day it feels easier. We stream at night and after you’ve been playing for awhile and it’s getting late, you just get tired. I’m glad I don’t have Caesar bc it makes it more challenging, but I wonder if I’ll be able to clear 30 without her.
Yeah, came here to say this. Seeing her shield break because I blinked while fighting the floor 27 dog (or because particle effects were in the way of its quarter-second tells) makes me die inside. I mean, it's preferable to losing a character right then and there so she's absolutely still doing her job, but she's no safety net. Granted, all her skills are level 10 or lower and she has a level 50 stun weapon on her in lieu of her sig, so I'm definitely underbuilt but... still.
@@GelyelFishWhat makes her particularly useful is regardless of shield strength one attack can't do more than the shield value, and her shield is very easy to refresh. That's a lot of free hits comparatively.
Worth noting some underappreciated characters that work well in this mode. Corin is my favorite example. Her long s on her dodge counter and her ministun on certain moves like ex special allows you to breath with some aggressive enemies such as shadow Jane and shadow pulchra. She allows a slower and more methodical approach to take on the floors. Good for boomer reflexes.l Alternatively you can go Billy and aggressively pile up the damage. High risk as the only break you get are true stun windows and the occasional ult. He gives an intense experience throughout, but can pile on the damage really well with minimal support. Really opposite ends of the spectrum gameplay wise.
This id the end game I needed. I have so manh team combinations right now and dlowly tweaking them to push through an endless gauntlet is quite fun and gives me more to look forward to than just the 7 nodes
I have no Caesar AND no Seth, so going up to 25 was painful. I might not be the best and most efficient player, but I sure know how to brute force my way through five levels with basically nothing but a Zhu Yuan hyper-carry team. She's my hammer and everything in this game looks suspiciously like a nail to me.
The new game mode is definitely challenging and makes me feel rewarded for getting good at the parrying/dodging. So far I have gotten past floor 21 with my Ben main DPS hypercarry team. The DPS checks are getting harder but I intend to push as far as I can with Ben Biggest!! Floor 22 I'm just running into skill issue because the teleporting enemies really mess with me for some reason.
happy for the caeser enjoyers, I skipped her for burnice/yanagi but will maybe still pick her up, especially if there's a rerun during the idol banners because I really don't care for their designs. Still made it through level 15 without much trouble and that's kind of all that matters for me since the polychrome rewards disappear after that.
Got up to floor 24 so far with no defenders and managed to clear the previous 2 floors with no hit with a Zhu Anby and Nicole team. Also Jane doe fight is easier when you abuse dodge counter invincibility. All that def took some retries though. If anything Caesar makes things easier, but I still don’t regret pulling Burnice, and always had the mentality that I’ll pull Caesar on a rerun if she’s still as valuable as she is.
Considering that the harder parts of Battle Tower and a modifier in Blitz Mode disables the enemies' flashing indicators, I would love to see an option that lets you disable the flashing indicators in ANY game mode. Grinding my way to Floor 30 was already enough for me, but I am curious to know how the base game would feel without any parry indicators - and minus the demented damage spike.
I've been trying to pull every character so far because I like every character so far, and my luck just didn't work out for Caesar. It is what it is. Maybe I'll get her on a rerun.
I didn't skip her. I lost my 50/50. That guarantee is going to Miyabi. I will dump all of my mixtapes if it means I get Caesar on a rerun. Battle tower 15+ is absolute hell, I am burying my maxed Piper, Lucy, Nekomata, Jane, Ben, Lycaon, Rina, Seth, Corin, and Koleda on the daily here.
as someone with heavy skill issues i pulled anyway despite losing the 50/50,,,,and lemme just say i’m so happy i did she actually lets me clear stuff now
Honestly with my Ben M6 with 2k defense and 3k atk and my Koleda M3 because a lot of losing 50/50 I honestly didn’t have that much of a hard time. Ben is so underrated he is such a great sub dps and crit support. I don’t have Jane or Seth, floor 25 team was Koleda, Ben and soldier 11, because they were full health, my other team was dying.
I was all about Caesar and Burnice and hearing what they did made it even easier to commit. Currently rocking a (currently) full Sons of Calydon featuring Soldier 11 and Ben.
I pulled Ceasar and skipped Burnice for Lighter. Both glad it leave me in a good place to pick him and Miyabi up but hope skipping Burnice won't hurt too much down the line. Was a hard enough decision to begin with.
I was going to skip Caesar... but I did pull on her banner a couple of times to get some of the A ranks. Got an S rank with no built up pity and won the 50/50. My luck is gone. I am now doomed to have to spend all of my polychrome to get Miyabi.
I didn't want her at first but after I got nekomata on the standard banner I got upset cause she's the one I don't want to get. So out of rage I used all my burnice fund on Caesar banner and thank god I won the 50/50 lol. I still managed to get Burnice at low pity, so in case of hesitation just pull 😂
People who pulled for Caesar bc she was Meta. I pulled for Caesar bc she is best girl. We are the the same… Seriously though, I skipped big booty rat for Caesar and though it was hard to do I’m glad I was rewarded for sticking with my favorites! I knew I wanted Caesar the moment I saw her in the release trailer for the game. Always pick your favorites, even if they aren’t obviously meta. Good job clearing with Rat, ALG, proud of you keep it up! 👍
Yeah i complete the 25 floors in one hour and welp i end the events for now so i gona chill and go back to My time room meanwhile i wait for the idols or a cool character
I made the same "mistake". Unfortunately Caesar just didn't want to come home. I did quite a few pulls and got close to pity, but Jane drained my resources so much that it didn't suffice.
For being average in skill you make up for it by having a good understanding of mechanics. I never thought about using the lock on feature to keep them even in health
Farthest Ive gotten so far *with* Ceasar has been 32, but honestly, I feel like Ben is slept on as the A-rank Counter Defense option, as he was my fallback when My Ceasar finally gave out. Ben was the last to fall out of all my agents. hadnt thought about using more support boos, I should try another go with Avocaboo see how far I can go.
yeah it sucks. I lost 50/50 on her banner but that led me to get burnice which I’m very happy about but does suck I couldn’t get both. definitely getting her during a rerun or maybe another s-rank defense shielder will be released sometime next year
I think Tower is a test of consistency more than anything, given how your win condition is just survival. This makes a lot of Defense characters and Vital View Defensive assists a lot more valuable for keeping your team alive. Since Caesar is the best Defense unit period, it makes sense that she would be amazing in Tower. I would also say Ben is pretty valuable too in this game mode. Seth unfortunately is more of a buffer than a tank, given how you want him off the field as much as possible, so he's a bit lackluster as a pure sustain unless you have brutal Anomaly to capitalize on his buff.
Skipped caesar as well because was cocky about my skill and teams. Still got 25 floors, but I really consider now to save for caesar rerun or other shielder to complete these 100 floors
The general consensus was that she was a great all around character without a mandatory role in the game at the time. That, combined with her really needing her signature w-engine and burnice synergizing with my account really well, led me to skip her knowing full well she would be very useful down the line. Looking forward to going for her rerun, and happy that defense units have a legit place in the game now
The last day of Caesar's banner I had to decide between her and Burnice... I chose right and Caesar took my low spender account to another level. I've been saving everything ever since for Miyabi so hopefully that's another big boost in power
Skipping the overlord of the outer ring for a bartender with pigtails is already crazy work lol. I dodge when I feel like it in the tower thanks to Caesar
I told you i was a madman, i got both Carsar and Burnice with their signitures. Was extremely lucky with burnice sig though. It came on one 10 pull. Lol
I’m just a skill issue person. I got mindscape 1 Caesar just by pure luck like going for piper cons at the time so I’m stuck on 30 atm and I’ll probably stop at 30. It’s just a little too sweaty for me especially when they get rid of the dodge warning, makes timings pretty crucial.
Beating floor 25 without Caesar is like playing Dark Souls with skill issue. Thank you Rat person, Pink boob glasses lady, Koleda, Shark maid, Vampire's old ally and Pink boob glasses lady's daughter/little sister.
I skipped Jane for Caesar and Burnice, best trade off I've ever made. I have yet to try the tower because I've been busy, but I'm really excited to trying it soon.
Im in the same circumstances as you dude, had to skip jane for caesar/burnice cause i already built piper so pulling for jane was a no brainer. No regrets on that part especially with Burn-ice miyabi combo.
@JayceRustia I'm really looking forward to Miyabi, if I did my calculations right, by skipping both Yanagi and Lighter I should get enough to guarantee one Miyabi and get her W-Engine if needed
@@mysteryfirecat673 Yeah same plan too, skipping asaba will not be too much of a dps drop considering i already have a powerhouse zhu yuan. 1 miyabi and her W-engine it is for me after that full skip mode ON since i don't like those idol patch, i might reconsider if its not them next after the miyabi banner.
I am in the other group. I pulled for Caesar but Caesar said "Nuh uh" and I lost my 50/50. The whole SOC patch was a disaster for me. Losing the 50 and not getting enough poly to pull for Burnice. At least now, I have a guaranteed Yanagi or Miyabi. I need more info about Miyabi before I decide who I want.
So that would mean BEN will be veet yseful in this mode then, since he can provide shields to all party members even if it is a 18^ rate, but if he can do it constantly and applied it over and over again without too much cool down. Then he and Avacadoboo will be somewhat god send in the mode. While Seth from what I am seeing in the footage, can only applie a shield to the quick assist unit who swaps in with him.
I guess I know who my rerun priority is now, assuming no new shield agents release beforehand. I wouldn't be surprised if Hoyo decided to release an S rank Bangboo with a focus on healing too.
Ben builds up shields much faster than Seth, and they apply to the entire team. Plus ben gets a shield after parrying +EX, so he is way less likely to take damage when applying it. The attack sequence for Seth is way too long, so he takes tons of chip damage.
It was been pretty easy for me so far, but that may be because I have really nailed down Jane's dodge timings with the little ping noise enemies make before attacking
Man I still don't even have 1 full team.... I'll be trying this mode with the couple characters I have but......man Imma get my butt whooped for a few patches while I wait for characters.
Nah, the moment we got the survival node you should've seen the warning signs. Whenever you see hoyo make content that caters to a unit, get that unit or you will suffer ! This far, the two units in zzz that hoyo gave clear signs that you should get were Jane and Caesar
I knew Caesar was a must have the moment it was shown that she gives herself and allies an overshield. Playing through the Sons of Calydon storyline cemented my decision to pull her and her W-Engine Also, she's going to empower tf out of Miyabi now that its confirmed that she's an anomaly agent
I really like the concept of the game mode but it just feels too punishing if you don’t have Caesar. I know you can get good and do it hitless but as a guy with limited time playing on mobile it’s really rough.
Damnnn spoiler alert! I haven’t seen that enemy you’re fighting in the intro. I made it up to floor 22 and I’m saving my next try bc I also make content. But YEAH! I skipped Caesar and I’m also LOVING how difficult this shit is.
i feel like i play pretty well and getting to floor 25 without Caesar was pretty difficult, honestly bordering unfun just due to forcing me to not play characters i like. i still don't regret not pulling Caesar as i am still not missing any polychromes from content, but I'm definitely going to value shield more in the future
I mean to be fair you cant say you messed up skipping Caesar because of content you didn't even knew existed during her banner. Thats simply making decisions based on the information you had, no shame in that.
If you played Gachas before, skipping Ceasar was a tough choice because by virtue of what she does (kind of bending basic game mechanics) skipping her REALLY required you to like Burnice. Same for Qingyi, both Ceasar and Qingyi practically make even M0 Anton clear Shiyu, as Qingyi is giving you extra dmg% for doing the same job other stunners do. It looks that Yanagi might be on the same boat as she stacks extra disorder for pressing a button, meaning she doubles the damage of a mechanic for doing the same thing anomaly units do as of now. Kind of crazy to see that the devs are already realasing characters that "interact" that directly with game mechanics.
yup pretty much, anyone that plays gacha games and fighting games will know that anytime any characters can do something that bypass a game mechanic they are practically going to be high tier especially when they are not a DPS carry, same thing with genshin and zhongli, fgo with the merlin castoria etc, or aigis 1000 with their hero characters a game is always balance around the game mechanic and playable characters, and when all your characters can be DPS, supports, sustain, buffer characters that last a long time and ignore or break the fundamental rule of the game unless it's extremely under powered it will alway be meta
I thought that I could deal with the game combat without caeser. So I skipped her as I had more interest for burnice. And boi oh boi, I'm gonna suffer in this game mode at mobile
If you are doing a tierlist please include S11 at T0.5 right next to Jane doe S11 is such a good dodge character Also i was really hoping Knightboo was gonna be designed to help the player in the tower mode but he just gives a tiny atk buff very dissapointed he doesnt have a big shield he taunts enemies into hitting OkOKOK im at stage25 now and what a journey those last 5 floors were i had to redo my 15-20 bc i only used my caesar team and then caesar was too weak to fend off Jane so i was fresh off of the Jane struggle and new i would need caesar for the ice twins so first up i ran S11/Nicole/Lucy/Resonaboo did really well for 21 but took too much damage in 22 and had to change over to the Ellen/Caesar/Soukaku/Sharkboo team was really tough but i got through stage 24 by a stroke of luck seperating Farbauti from Thracian and i was able to take out the Farbauti early so it wasnt messing me up on the thracian fight and now im at stage 25 and i have to run Ellen/Caesar(40%hp)/Lucy/RedMoccus bc Soukaku is too low so if i clear it will have taken every single bit of account building ive done so far to get me the clear i really feel like everyone ive built came together to get me through to the clear now i cant wait for Lighter because i know hes gonna synergize into this core even further definitely want to start looking into shock stun or a future defense character like Caesar bc omg she's carrying my account like she's Atlas ok well i think i could theoretically beat the dancers but the revive time when you kill them was reduced to like 1 second and yeah i cannot/do not want to try to beat them with a whole second burst of hp bar
My Caesar has helped in the Battle Tower but as you get higher up the more I feel the shield barely helps, as the enemies begin to easily 1 or 2 shot your shield buff. That isn't to say she isn't helpful because of that, since the enemies become more aggressive the constant parries build up tremendous amounts of daze. And even then having room to make 1 or 2 more mistakes is invaluable. I'm at floor 30 right now and I couldn't imagine making it this far without her. 🙏
dude i literally remember my dark souls / sekiro time when playing floor 29-30 dude i literally dont know the boss attacks but it took me 1 hour to beat it
Seth and Caesar shields go crazy Good to know I wasn't the only one struggling here, for a sec there I thought I was getting rusty Now imagine an absolute GigaChad doing tower floor 50 with a Ellen/Zhu Yuan setup
Ceasar absolutely carried me through the last couple of floors. Jane and Burnice did a lot of the heavy lifting, but knowing Ceasar was there just in case with the shield was an absolute Godsend.
You betrayed Caesar and now you suffer the consequences. Poetic
Lawd, forgive me!
@@AverageLuckGamer Et tu, Brutus?
@@AverageLuckGamer remember Seth can ALSO “deflect” (block) bullets, and the spikes from the ballerinas if his running
'laughs in having not skipped Caeser' I'm not great at the game either, I saw that big shield, and just pulled. So comfy running her. So cute too.
Tower is the "lock in" gamemode of zzz. Shiyu is a stat/build check while tower is the skill/sanity check
The "lean forward" mode.
For real, this gamemode is actually insane. I dont plan to pull ceasar and the bose just 3-4 hits to took down my team even they are fully build lv60 😓😓😓
(Leans forward and exploits every opportunity to Yanagi EX Skill i-frame)
can't wait to try that Tower mode as someone who struggles with ambush node :)
Pulling for chest size always pans out in the end
It's a sign from the devs that the characters gonna be op.
But ☝️.....but.....fck he's not wrong XD
Based
@@SamueL-td7fb maybe I won’t have remorse for grabbing Yanagi after the Miyabi spook.
BEST COMMENT. The power of the waifu pulls are immeasurable 😂
I'm not ashamed to admit that i have a skill issue and that caesar hard carried me all the way up to floor 25. Honestly if i didn't have caesar, i'd be stuck on 24. Glad i pulled for her lol.
I mean if you pull someone to clear a game content and have fun, nothing wrong with that right? We are playing a game afterall 😁
Don’t be upset, man I suck at dodging. I hate playing with qingyi and Caesar actually making her fun to play is a win for me. Ive already resigned from any delusions of pulling lighter and miyabi. I’ll get miyabi thus round and likely grab lighter on a rerun.
•Mistakes makes you stronger
The mistake:
The Legion warned me not to skip the mighty Caesar. Glad I listened.
what can I say, Average gamers make average mistakes
Skipping Ceasar to get burnice and saving for Miyabi, 0 regrets
Got Ceasar and Burnice, and with 90 roll for Miyabi. 0 regrets
Got Caesar, absolutely skipped Burnice without a second thought. Saving for Lighter and Miyabi. Profiting
100% same. Wasn't interested in Caesar and getting a few gold drive disk mats in exchange for pulling a whole 5* seems ill advised.
You didn't need to skip them, to get Miyabi. Soooooooo
@@bjornnilsson2941........what lmao
0:16 don't be, i haven't done it yet but i HOPE i struggle, that sounds like more fun for me lmao. Having skill issue is the best issue to have because you can fix it by yourself.
Caesar is objectively the single best character in the game (gameplaywise), and I'll continue to stand by it until a better version of her releases. An actual account changer and will never age poorly in this game because of what she provides. Especially if you have her Signature W-Engine too.🛡
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She's literally BUILT for ALMOST ALL endgame and high-level content with the exception of any game modes that specifically need super high DPS time trials. She has everything from atk buffs, defensive shields, enemy debuffs, an AoE atk pull to clear low-level mobs, A BLOCK/PARRY, high impact stat for stuns, and her passive fully activates in essentially every single team comp that'll ever exist in the future and currently in the present game state. Even against Physical resistant enemies you can just plug her into a team for her buffs and debuffs while your other two teammates do damage. From a game design perspective, she can do everything you want from an endgame character for gameplay.
I’m on floor 60 now.
Using Avocaboo was genius during your stream, on easier stages I’ll leave an enemy alive and just around until I get my units back to good health
That’s genius!!
@@UnusualEcho thanks! was able to get to beat floor 100 yesterday. im done with tower lol
i think you're underestimating your skill level. if you compare yourself to other youtubers you might be below average but to the actual average player you're well above average. i've seen players pull 300 on standard banner for lycaon, pull for limited characters they don't want, build nicole or ben for dps, ect. if you know how the developers expect players to play you are already slightly above average
I think when he says skill, he's just talking about the action, not knowledge
@@V-vision me too
ALG drop the Caesar and tower videos Miyabi has been announced this is all you’re allowed to talk about for the next 2 months
In all seriousness thanks for the uploads, love your channel, keep up the great work
Haha, hopefully tomorrow!
If you're someone who's struggling to beat the difficult content and you don't have Caesar, I highly recommend building Ben! Everyone really needs to stop sleeping on this character, because Ben is very strong, especially if you also have his weapon. He's literally designed to be a tank, so he'll help if you're struggling defensively. Ben is basically just the "We have Caesar at home" character.
Counter point, you dont need a shield if you simply never get hit
@@Slybandito7 Yeah, it's no problem if you simply don't get hit. Avoiding getting hit is super easy when you have two super aggressive bosses at the same time, right? Good thing they removed the indicator flashes above level 25 so that it doesn't become too boring...
@@Slybandito7 That's true, it's just a recommendation to players that are having a hard time. I personally am really good at the game, but even I still get hit sometimes. I've heard enemies at higher levels hit pretty hard, so a sheild may become essential at some point.
@@A._Meroy exactly, you get it! Now go out there and become untouchable
@@supervegeta881 Floor 20+ is basically you get to get hit once per character if they're built enough, next one is death. (Without Caesar). With very invested other shielders I can see you getting enough for another hit or two.
Guys... if the entire community of a gacha game is comparing a character to Zhongli, do NOT skip them lol. I am 100% certain that Caesar is here to stay and will be relevant in endgame content for years to come.
An attack buffer, res shredder, shielder, AND stunner... all in ONE??!
With a sprinkle of crowd control in there too???!!
Come on now...
Good thing I don't do endgame stuff yet 😅
For anyone with Jane whos watching his commentary around 9 mins: using janes EX special makes you immune to dmg for the whole spin. its actually a good way to avoid taking any damage. its ONLY when you can make it EX but you are invulnerable till you hit the floor again.
Did you see the Miyabi drip? Very cool very interesting
Both very cool and interesting, video tomorrow.
mean comments aside I still think skipping characters for ones that you like is fine and not really a mistake per se. I wasn’t playing when she was released and while I’d want her for meta reasons, I don’t prefer her design over all the other limited characters thus far so I can only hope they release a defense character that I like soon enough (and seth is cuter anyway).
It's not a mistake like you're doomed. But it is a mistake for those who want to optimize their accounts for endgame performance. The better you do in endgame the more rewards you get in the long run.
@@Bluff_Prime-mp1xo You can get more polychromes from events, so endgame isn't all that.
Caesar being the zhongli/aventurine of the game was exactly as i predicted. Going to definitely grab her m1 next round.
Same, i also predicted that too and literally all of them colored Gold/Yellow 😂
praying for an early rerun 😢
Yep, the moment people said she was "just zhongli of zzz" i never saw that as a negative. LMAO
Caesar at m2 with her weapon is so far above any other support or even character in the game it’s crazy. You can take a level 1 Billy with the buffs m2r1 Caesar gives and clear shiyu 7 (I’ve done it lol, level 1 Billy with level 1 weapon and just Caesar off field giving buff. Though to be transparent my Billy was m6)
The moment I saw that Caesar had knockback safety, I pulled her so I can play my Ellen more comfy. Off-field supports are going to be way moving forward into meta units, imo.
You can only on-field one character, while two are off-fielders. So off-fielders are going to be way more important, especially as time passes.
with just welkins and logging in every day, i had enough pulls for 1 pity attempt on EVERY banner. I have pulled everyone up to Yanagi.
Ellen (lost to Lyacon)
Zhu Yuan (Guaranteed and Early, won WEgine as well)
Qingyi (lost to Nekomata)
Jane Doe (Guaranteed)
Ceasar (Won)
Burnice (Won)
Yanagi (Lost to Nekomata)
My plan now is to save my Guarantee for Miyabi and I will make lighter my first skip ever since the game started. considering I have Lyacon, I feel that he will be a better support than Lighter will be for Miyabi (assuming Miyabi is still ice element)
I also pulled Rina and Soldier 11 from the standard banner, and I have all the standard WEngines, with the exception of Grace and Soldier 11's WEngines.
Right now, I have 34 pulls left after Yanagi attempts (lost 50/50 at 60 pulls) So I'm planning on M0W1 Miyabi and I think I might finally do a big boy swipe for her too. We'll see.
But the point of what I'm saying, is that ZZZ has been the only game where just playing the game and doing the minimum spending, (just welkins, i never even bought a BP) I had been able to gain enough pull income to pull on EVERY banner, which is ridiculous. Even very generous games, like Azur Lane or Echocalypse, you need to pull multiple copies to make the characters viable. With ZZZ, you just need 1 copy, and anything else is just QoL/Power that will make the game easier, but it strictly luxury.
I really like this game.
Here’s a little validation for you. Miyabi is confirmed to be anomaly. She also got part of kit leaked and she requires another anomaly agent or same faction member to activate her additional core ability.
Lycaon with soukaku is already a better option for her then lighter due to the fact that she won’t activate his additional ability and he can’t activate hers. Save your polychrome all for Miyabi and may you win!🫡
I have had the opposite experience. Pity every time, and lost all but one of my 50/50s. I don’t wanna spend money on this game because it doesn’t feel good as often as I’ve lost, and been unlucky so far, and without the monthly pass, you’re not gonna get enough currency or strong enough characters to beat the game modes that give you more currency. The is the only f2p account I genuinely don’t think works fine.
Same for me, only monthly poluchrome and daily
Ellen + Wengine ( Won in first 10 pulls, Lost to Hellfire gear, go all the way up to 140 pulls and guaranteed the her Signature )
Zhu Yuan ( Won, 67 pulls, skip Wengine )
Skip Qingyi
Jane Doe ( Lost to Grace, go all the way up to 152 pulls and guaranteed )
Caesar + Wengine( Lost to Rina but got Caesar in next 10 pulls, 90 pulls in total. 1 tap her Wengine)
Burnice ( Lost to Grace again, go all the way up to 158 pulls and guaranteed )
45 pulls on Yanagi banner, I'm not sure if I want to get her or just save for Miyabi instead, I'll skip Lighter.
"Battle Tower makes Caesar SSS Tier".
She always has been. No idea how you never got that. Even, if you disregard that shield, 1K attack for doing a few warmup stretches when the fight begins, is nuts. That amazing shield on top of that, is gravy on gravy. And, in my opinion the thing that ties everything together, the absolute bonkers interrupt resistance on top of that. Caesar is so "comfy", that I would not have been surprised, if people "unlearned" how to play this game properly before the tower mode came out.
Again, no idea how you are only understanding that now when it quite literally hits you in the face.
Causr the content is fairly balanced by only dodging and counter.
I lucked out on getting M1W1 Caesar as a VERY low spending player, and I thank whoever was looking out for me everyday. Floors 15+ would've been absolute hell for me 💀.
caesar has insanely long i-frames when coming in from perfect assist, gives me a nice breather inbetween dopple jane's ultimate
but even then i still relied heavily on dodging, the shield just gives me more room for the occasional mistake (mostly caused by too much going on all at once)
my only mistake for battle tower was building up exploreboo over avocaboo thinking the shield would be of help in ambush node (it's so miniscule it doesn't even matter)
I managed to pull Caesar and I can't even beat floor 15. You're much better than you give yourself credit for, ALG.
As someone who did the 300 pull standard before I knew what I was doing and now only have two limited agents + one limited wengine, I feel like I unintentionally built up the perfect agents for this mode lmao. I handled fire and physical with Caesar/Lucy/Piper, ether with Zhu Yuan/Caesar/Nicole, and electric with Grace/Seth/Caesar. So glad I won the lottery on Caesar’s w-engine with zero pity. Looking forward, I have 120+ pulls and some pity already built up for Lighter, and then hopefully I have a chance at Miyabi!
I pulled for Burnice, so...
25 is probably as high as I'll go
Not your fault, ofc. I pulled Burnice because I liked her better than Caesar gameplay wise, tied for personality
I’m starting to regret my decision on Caesar…
Yeah... this was 100% seeable. I could just not understand why you, and a few other cc's (the ones on that podcast) were SO anti-Caesar hype. Just on this bizarre delusion that "if you can beat endgame content now, you'll always be able to beat it," like its never gonna get harder. It's almost cc malpractice
It's not anti-Caesar hype, it's cope. Literally anyone could tell Caesar would be the mvp char to have, but they have to convince themselves that they are making good decisions after pulling for the Jane trap (literally the least value char to pull for since Piper basically performs at 3/4'ths of her level and more than makes up for it with Caesar) and then also wanting Burnice.
Floor 25 without Caesar, harder than average but on the flip side a LOT more fun and rewarding. Still happy I didn’t pull her so I get to experience a challenging mode ^^
Bruh I love your videos. I had the same experience where I was struggling to clear something while streaming but when you come back the next day it feels easier. We stream at night and after you’ve been playing for awhile and it’s getting late, you just get tired. I’m glad I don’t have Caesar bc it makes it more challenging, but I wonder if I’ll be able to clear 30 without her.
Honestly even with Caesar, the floors after 25 get hard fast. For example, the pair of extremely teleport-happy Thanatos almost immediately after.
Yeah, came here to say this. Seeing her shield break because I blinked while fighting the floor 27 dog (or because particle effects were in the way of its quarter-second tells) makes me die inside. I mean, it's preferable to losing a character right then and there so she's absolutely still doing her job, but she's no safety net.
Granted, all her skills are level 10 or lower and she has a level 50 stun weapon on her in lieu of her sig, so I'm definitely underbuilt but... still.
@@GelyelFishWhat makes her particularly useful is regardless of shield strength one attack can't do more than the shield value, and her shield is very easy to refresh. That's a lot of free hits comparatively.
Worth noting some underappreciated characters that work well in this mode.
Corin is my favorite example. Her long s on her dodge counter and her ministun on certain moves like ex special allows you to breath with some aggressive enemies such as shadow Jane and shadow pulchra. She allows a slower and more methodical approach to take on the floors. Good for boomer reflexes.l
Alternatively you can go Billy and aggressively pile up the damage. High risk as the only break you get are true stun windows and the occasional ult. He gives an intense experience throughout, but can pile on the damage really well with minimal support. Really opposite ends of the spectrum gameplay wise.
I had to drop zzz during Caeser banner, I had a guarantee after losing to koleda on janes banner.
So you can see that I am f*cked for this new mode 😅
This id the end game I needed. I have so manh team combinations right now and dlowly tweaking them to push through an endless gauntlet is quite fun and gives me more to look forward to than just the 7 nodes
I have no Caesar AND no Seth, so going up to 25 was painful. I might not be the best and most efficient player, but I sure know how to brute force my way through five levels with basically nothing but a Zhu Yuan hyper-carry team.
She's my hammer and everything in this game looks suspiciously like a nail to me.
The new game mode is definitely challenging and makes me feel rewarded for getting good at the parrying/dodging. So far I have gotten past floor 21 with my Ben main DPS hypercarry team. The DPS checks are getting harder but I intend to push as far as I can with Ben Biggest!! Floor 22 I'm just running into skill issue because the teleporting enemies really mess with me for some reason.
Well done besting the tower! Caesar will rerun eventually. The King always returns.
happy for the caeser enjoyers, I skipped her for burnice/yanagi but will maybe still pick her up, especially if there's a rerun during the idol banners because I really don't care for their designs. Still made it through level 15 without much trouble and that's kind of all that matters for me since the polychrome rewards disappear after that.
Got up to floor 24 so far with no defenders and managed to clear the previous 2 floors with no hit with a Zhu Anby and Nicole team. Also Jane doe fight is easier when you abuse dodge counter invincibility. All that def took some retries though. If anything Caesar makes things easier, but I still don’t regret pulling Burnice, and always had the mentality that I’ll pull Caesar on a rerun if she’s still as valuable as she is.
Considering that the harder parts of Battle Tower and a modifier in Blitz Mode disables the enemies' flashing indicators, I would love to see an option that lets you disable the flashing indicators in ANY game mode.
Grinding my way to Floor 30 was already enough for me, but I am curious to know how the base game would feel without any parry indicators - and minus the demented damage spike.
I've been trying to pull every character so far because I like every character so far, and my luck just didn't work out for Caesar. It is what it is. Maybe I'll get her on a rerun.
I didn't skip her. I lost my 50/50. That guarantee is going to Miyabi. I will dump all of my mixtapes if it means I get Caesar on a rerun.
Battle tower 15+ is absolute hell, I am burying my maxed Piper, Lucy, Nekomata, Jane, Ben, Lycaon, Rina, Seth, Corin, and Koleda on the daily here.
I feel you pain, I've also lost her 50/50, but it's fine, there will be another occasion! And Lighter is more important atm haha
Back when the ambush mode first appeared I leveled up both avocaboo and paperboy, and now they're pulling their weight again
Well i skipped caesar and i think it was the right choice now i get to enjoy the difficulty even more
CAESAR PULLS KEEP WINNING! I’m so happy o decided to go all in and invest in her banner! NOT REGRETTING IT ONE BIT! ALL HAIL THE KING!🫡😎😏😁😉
If this is going to be their ZZZ's version of Spiral Abyss, I'm all for it!
And yes, Caeser stonks!!!
I think Shuyu Defence is the Abyss equivalent this is more the Genshin Local Legends boss rush...!!!🤣🤣
@@saahil0855 Though i was thinking like if they have 3 end game modes like in Starrail, I would like it.
@@sugar-lx1jz Too much work 😅 every thing cost Dennies and that shi ain't coming in
Thanks for the info! Im going to pull Ceasar right away!
as someone with heavy skill issues i pulled anyway despite losing the 50/50,,,,and lemme just say i’m so happy i did she actually lets me clear stuff now
Honestly with my Ben M6 with 2k defense and 3k atk and my Koleda M3 because a lot of losing 50/50 I honestly didn’t have that much of a hard time. Ben is so underrated he is such a great sub dps and crit support. I don’t have Jane or Seth, floor 25 team was Koleda, Ben and soldier 11, because they were full health, my other team was dying.
I was all about Caesar and Burnice and hearing what they did made it even easier to commit. Currently rocking a (currently) full Sons of Calydon featuring Soldier 11 and Ben.
I tried to get ceasar because I’m f2p but I was unlucky with my 40+ master tapes. But it did help me solidify my pull for burnice so, I’m doing good!
I pulled Ceasar and skipped Burnice for Lighter. Both glad it leave me in a good place to pick him and Miyabi up but hope skipping Burnice won't hurt too much down the line. Was a hard enough decision to begin with.
I was going to skip Caesar... but I did pull on her banner a couple of times to get some of the A ranks. Got an S rank with no built up pity and won the 50/50. My luck is gone. I am now doomed to have to spend all of my polychrome to get Miyabi.
I didn't want her at first but after I got nekomata on the standard banner I got upset cause she's the one I don't want to get. So out of rage I used all my burnice fund on Caesar banner and thank god I won the 50/50 lol. I still managed to get Burnice at low pity, so in case of hesitation just pull 😂
People who pulled for Caesar bc she was Meta. I pulled for Caesar bc she is best girl. We are the the same…
Seriously though, I skipped big booty rat for Caesar and though it was hard to do I’m glad I was rewarded for sticking with my favorites! I knew I wanted Caesar the moment I saw her in the release trailer for the game.
Always pick your favorites, even if they aren’t obviously meta. Good job clearing with Rat, ALG, proud of you keep it up! 👍
Yeah i complete the 25 floors in one hour and welp i end the events for now so i gona chill and go back to My time room meanwhile i wait for the idols or a cool character
I made the same "mistake". Unfortunately Caesar just didn't want to come home. I did quite a few pulls and got close to pity, but Jane drained my resources so much that it didn't suffice.
For being average in skill you make up for it by having a good understanding of mechanics. I never thought about using the lock on feature to keep them even in health
Farthest Ive gotten so far *with* Ceasar has been 32, but honestly, I feel like Ben is slept on as the A-rank Counter Defense option, as he was my fallback when My Ceasar finally gave out. Ben was the last to fall out of all my agents. hadnt thought about using more support boos, I should try another go with Avocaboo see how far I can go.
yeah it sucks. I lost 50/50 on her banner but that led me to get burnice which I’m very happy about but does suck I couldn’t get both. definitely getting her during a rerun or maybe another s-rank defense shielder will be released sometime next year
The twin marionettes on 25 hurt my soul, even with Jane/Caeser/Seth. I haven't had that much fun in ages, though.
Get Lucy over Seth lmao
I think Tower is a test of consistency more than anything, given how your win condition is just survival. This makes a lot of Defense characters and Vital View Defensive assists a lot more valuable for keeping your team alive.
Since Caesar is the best Defense unit period, it makes sense that she would be amazing in Tower. I would also say Ben is pretty valuable too in this game mode. Seth unfortunately is more of a buffer than a tank, given how you want him off the field as much as possible, so he's a bit lackluster as a pure sustain unless you have brutal Anomaly to capitalize on his buff.
Skipped caesar as well because was cocky about my skill and teams. Still got 25 floors, but I really consider now to save for caesar rerun or other shielder to complete these 100 floors
The general consensus was that she was a great all around character without a mandatory role in the game at the time. That, combined with her really needing her signature w-engine and burnice synergizing with my account really well, led me to skip her knowing full well she would be very useful down the line. Looking forward to going for her rerun, and happy that defense units have a legit place in the game now
The last day of Caesar's banner I had to decide between her and Burnice... I chose right and Caesar took my low spender account to another level. I've been saving everything ever since for Miyabi so hopefully that's another big boost in power
Skipping the overlord of the outer ring for a bartender with pigtails is already crazy work lol. I dodge when I feel like it in the tower thanks to Caesar
I told you i was a madman, i got both Carsar and Burnice with their signitures. Was extremely lucky with burnice sig though. It came on one 10 pull. Lol
I’m just a skill issue person. I got mindscape 1 Caesar just by pure luck like going for piper cons at the time so I’m stuck on 30 atm and I’ll probably stop at 30. It’s just a little too sweaty for me especially when they get rid of the dodge warning, makes timings pretty crucial.
Beating floor 25 without Caesar is like playing Dark Souls with skill issue.
Thank you Rat person, Pink boob glasses lady, Koleda, Shark maid, Vampire's old ally and Pink boob glasses lady's daughter/little sister.
I skipped Jane for Caesar and Burnice, best trade off I've ever made.
I have yet to try the tower because I've been busy, but I'm really excited to trying it soon.
Im in the same circumstances as you dude, had to skip jane for caesar/burnice cause i already built piper so pulling for jane was a no brainer. No regrets on that part especially with Burn-ice miyabi combo.
@JayceRustia I'm really looking forward to Miyabi, if I did my calculations right, by skipping both Yanagi and Lighter I should get enough to guarantee one Miyabi and get her W-Engine if needed
@@mysteryfirecat673 Yeah same plan too, skipping asaba will not be too much of a dps drop considering i already have a powerhouse zhu yuan. 1 miyabi and her W-engine it is for me after that full skip mode ON since i don't like those idol patch, i might reconsider if its not them next after the miyabi banner.
@@mysteryfirecat673 1000514952 here's my UID you can add me but im on the US server.
@@JayceRustia The word spoken by the dream gods is, Asaba will be free, we will have to see the veracity of this claims
I am in the other group. I pulled for Caesar but Caesar said "Nuh uh" and I lost my 50/50. The whole SOC patch was a disaster for me. Losing the 50 and not getting enough poly to pull for Burnice. At least now, I have a guaranteed Yanagi or Miyabi. I need more info about Miyabi before I decide who I want.
So that would mean BEN will be veet yseful in this mode then, since he can provide shields to all party members even if it is a 18^ rate, but if he can do it constantly and applied it over and over again without too much cool down. Then he and Avacadoboo will be somewhat god send in the mode.
While Seth from what I am seeing in the footage, can only applie a shield to the quick assist unit who swaps in with him.
I guess I know who my rerun priority is now, assuming no new shield agents release beforehand. I wouldn't be surprised if Hoyo decided to release an S rank Bangboo with a focus on healing too.
Looking forward to that potential Healer class for this mode specifically
I hope there's an s rank avocaboo/defense bangboo someday. I really want to play it using the team comps I find the most fun with
More like, defense now makes sense, even Ben can be a life saver in this mode, if we don't forget the survival Shiyu.
Ben builds up shields much faster than Seth, and they apply to the entire team. Plus ben gets a shield after parrying +EX, so he is way less likely to take damage when applying it. The attack sequence for Seth is way too long, so he takes tons of chip damage.
Congratulations on pulling Yanagi Average Lucky Gamer🎞🎞🎞🎞
It was been pretty easy for me so far, but that may be because I have really nailed down Jane's dodge timings with the little ping noise enemies make before attacking
Man I still don't even have 1 full team.... I'll be trying this mode with the couple characters I have but......man Imma get my butt whooped for a few patches while I wait for characters.
It's not a sprint! Wait for who you want.
@@AverageLuckGamer oh yeah. we are in the longest of hauls over here.
Nah, the moment we got the survival node you should've seen the warning signs. Whenever you see hoyo make content that caters to a unit, get that unit or you will suffer ! This far, the two units in zzz that hoyo gave clear signs that you should get were Jane and Caesar
I knew Caesar was a must have the moment it was shown that she gives herself and allies an overshield. Playing through the Sons of Calydon storyline cemented my decision to pull her and her W-Engine
Also, she's going to empower tf out of Miyabi now that its confirmed that she's an anomaly agent
I really like the concept of the game mode but it just feels too punishing if you don’t have Caesar. I know you can get good and do it hitless but as a guy with limited time playing on mobile it’s really rough.
What you are missing with Caesar is the pure bliss of hitting perfect blocks with her EX. So satisfying
Started about 2 weeks into Burnice banner >.<
need Caesar reroll asap
Damnnn spoiler alert! I haven’t seen that enemy you’re fighting in the intro. I made it up to floor 22 and I’m saving my next try bc I also make content. But YEAH! I skipped Caesar and I’m also LOVING how difficult this shit is.
i feel like i play pretty well and getting to floor 25 without Caesar was pretty difficult, honestly bordering unfun just due to forcing me to not play characters i like. i still don't regret not pulling Caesar as i am still not missing any polychromes from content, but I'm definitely going to value shield more in the future
I mean to be fair you cant say you messed up skipping Caesar because of content you didn't even knew existed during her banner.
Thats simply making decisions based on the information you had, no shame in that.
As I was playing this new game mode I was so thankful that I didn't skip Ceasar. I bow to the gacha gods for my luck.
skipped ceasar and made it to floor 30 think i’ll just use a rank defense units to go further
If you played Gachas before, skipping Ceasar was a tough choice because by virtue of what she does (kind of bending basic game mechanics) skipping her REALLY required you to like Burnice. Same for Qingyi, both Ceasar and Qingyi practically make even M0 Anton clear Shiyu, as Qingyi is giving you extra dmg% for doing the same job other stunners do. It looks that Yanagi might be on the same boat as she stacks extra disorder for pressing a button, meaning she doubles the damage of a mechanic for doing the same thing anomaly units do as of now. Kind of crazy to see that the devs are already realasing characters that "interact" that directly with game mechanics.
yup pretty much, anyone that plays gacha games and fighting games will know that anytime any characters can do something that bypass a game mechanic they are practically going to be high tier especially when they are not a DPS carry, same thing with genshin and zhongli, fgo with the merlin castoria etc, or aigis 1000 with their hero characters
a game is always balance around the game mechanic and playable characters, and when all your characters can be DPS, supports, sustain, buffer characters that last a long time and ignore or break the fundamental rule of the game unless it's extremely under powered it will alway be meta
I thought that I could deal with the game combat without caeser. So I skipped her as I had more interest for burnice. And boi oh boi, I'm gonna suffer in this game mode at mobile
If you are doing a tierlist please include S11 at T0.5 right next to Jane doe S11 is such a good dodge character
Also i was really hoping Knightboo was gonna be designed to help the player in the tower mode but he just gives a tiny atk buff very dissapointed he doesnt have a big shield he taunts enemies into hitting
OkOKOK im at stage25 now and what a journey those last 5 floors were i had to redo my 15-20 bc i only used my caesar team and then caesar was too weak to fend off Jane so i was fresh off of the Jane struggle and new i would need caesar for the ice twins so first up i ran S11/Nicole/Lucy/Resonaboo did really well for 21 but took too much damage in 22 and had to change over to the Ellen/Caesar/Soukaku/Sharkboo team was really tough but i got through stage 24 by a stroke of luck seperating Farbauti from Thracian and i was able to take out the Farbauti early so it wasnt messing me up on the thracian fight and now im at stage 25 and i have to run Ellen/Caesar(40%hp)/Lucy/RedMoccus bc Soukaku is too low so if i clear it will have taken every single bit of account building ive done so far to get me the clear i really feel like everyone ive built came together to get me through to the clear now i cant wait for Lighter because i know hes gonna synergize into this core even further definitely want to start looking into shock stun or a future defense character like Caesar bc omg she's carrying my account like she's Atlas
ok well i think i could theoretically beat the dancers but the revive time when you kill them was reduced to like 1 second and yeah i cannot/do not want to try to beat them with a whole second burst of hp bar
Caesar was an easy pull for me because of her design and her combat style was too good.
My Caesar has helped in the Battle Tower but as you get higher up the more I feel the shield barely helps, as the enemies begin to easily 1 or 2 shot your shield buff.
That isn't to say she isn't helpful because of that, since the enemies become more aggressive the constant parries build up tremendous amounts of daze.
And even then having room to make 1 or 2 more mistakes is invaluable. I'm at floor 30 right now and I couldn't imagine making it this far without her. 🙏
other games have taught me to prioritize supports over everyone else which is why got and maxed out caesar straight away
How I feel watching players struggle with Battle Tower(I have a M1S1 Caesar but am NOT even completing Battle Tower):
I always believed in Caesar and hoyo sure reward me for my faith
dude i literally remember my dark souls / sekiro time when playing floor 29-30 dude i literally dont know the boss attacks but it took me 1 hour to beat it
Seth and Caesar shields go crazy
Good to know I wasn't the only one struggling here, for a sec there I thought I was getting rusty
Now imagine an absolute GigaChad doing tower floor 50 with a Ellen/Zhu Yuan setup
Ceasar absolutely carried me through the last couple of floors. Jane and Burnice did a lot of the heavy lifting, but knowing Ceasar was there just in case with the shield was an absolute Godsend.