Recreating the Dry '70s Drums of Fleetwood Mac 'Rumours' | What's That Sound? Ep.9

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    The dry, hi-fi drums of Fleetwood Mac's 1977 masterpiece 'Rumours' would be at home in any recording today. See how close Noam & Jessica got to matching this timeless drum sound.
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  • @chrisholbrooks412
    @chrisholbrooks412 ปีที่แล้ว +130

    Mick Fleetwood being 6'7" is probably the reason for the distance between the snare and hi- hat.

    • @Roxanneredpanda
      @Roxanneredpanda ปีที่แล้ว +12

      holy shit I did not know he was that tall

    • @Terp311
      @Terp311 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ok

    • @cl9826
      @cl9826 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😂 He's torso is still in proportion though... I would hope

    • @giogiosan281
      @giogiosan281 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Mick Fleetwood is NOT that tall 😭

    • @1111Paiste
      @1111Paiste 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@giogiosan281 Right. I’ve met him before, he’s 6’5”.

  • @catface101
    @catface101 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    You forgot to add the mountains of cocaine, essential to the tone

    • @WARMTAPES
      @WARMTAPES หลายเดือนก่อน

      they always had the cocaine in the studio budget

  • @usagi2988
    @usagi2988 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    By trade, I'm a hard rock/heavy metal musician (drums & guitar)... this era of drum recording (and this album, in particular) has some of my all-time favorite drum sounds. I enjoy & appreciate the ever-loving crap outta this video series!

  • @AlexBallMusic
    @AlexBallMusic ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Nicely done. I've tried numerous ways to do this in the past but never got it to sound as good as you guys did. I shall steal your tips.

    • @Reverb
      @Reverb  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Go forth and steal away!

  • @DynamicRockers
    @DynamicRockers ปีที่แล้ว +25

    To avoid the bleed between the HH and the snare drum, you can put a small gobo in plywood with self adhesive bitumen damping matts on both side. It's really heavy and isolates really well. It was common for funk records and 70/80s pop like MJ Thriller. I love this sound, it's almost like a drum machine. Nice video thanks

  • @mcbefey
    @mcbefey ปีที่แล้ว +23

    This series is excellent

  • @fray3dendsofsanity
    @fray3dendsofsanity ปีที่แล้ว +18

    There is such a "satisfying" quality to this drum sound. The simplicity and simple punchiness is very pleasant to the ears. I love the crazy Bonzo sound of the early 70's, I think the gated verb sound of the 80's is charming, and 90's rock drums slam hard AF. But this one is so smooth and simple, great for mellower bands like Fleetwood

    • @curly_wyn
      @curly_wyn 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I love the 70s drum sound, I like the 90s drum sound too, but I HATE 80s gated reverb drums.

  • @AdamSoucyDrums
    @AdamSoucyDrums ปีที่แล้ว +3

    God, those toms are SPOT ON 🤯

  • @hokkym.6348
    @hokkym.6348 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I wish you did the led zeppelin 2 drum sound. What Eddie Kramer and Glynn Johns did there is really something else still to this day. The low end on the whole album is other worldly, but the kick drum especially! Can’t talk about heartbreaker, the lemon song, whole lotta love and ramble on enough. Or even since i’ve been loving you from LZ3, becase that kick’s resonance and body goes really deep into your soul! Gosh, i hope one day i can see guys you breaking these down🙏🏻🤞🏻
    Love from Hungary♥️

  • @allthingsclassicrock
    @allthingsclassicrock ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I’ve always like the mid to late 70s “west coast” drum sounds. One of my favorite drum sounds of the era is “After the Love is Gone” by Earth Wind and Fire. That track might not be as dry as the Rumours drums but it’s a very up close intimate sound.

    • @vladjones2446
      @vladjones2446 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, EW&F were a soul/funk band with a slick LA studio sound, the albums from 75-82 are all killer musically and sonically.

    • @robertpincus6528
      @robertpincus6528 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree, but it's the kind of drum sound that only works when it's tucked into a mix. It wouldn't work on a jazz record.

  • @bernardoestrela6029
    @bernardoestrela6029 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    hands down one of the best produced songs ever

  • @cortical1
    @cortical1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love it, thanks! Maybe still a little brighter/crispier in the high end than the original but sounds absolutely marvelous. Well, who am I to keep you down...

  • @erikschouten4694
    @erikschouten4694 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love this sound

  • @bogatibokorakos
    @bogatibokorakos ปีที่แล้ว +13

    A seventies Bill Bruford sound would be a nice one to recreate, the one from The Yes Album or Close to the Edge :)

  • @thebreakfastmenu
    @thebreakfastmenu ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Rumours is the quintessential hi-fi album.

  • @per-andersnilsson4891
    @per-andersnilsson4891 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this!!
    Recorded my drums like this today and it rocks!!

  • @pottingplants_
    @pottingplants_ ปีที่แล้ว

    these vids are so cool! I've always loved this particular drum sound, especially on the song "Dreams"

  • @rhythmjones
    @rhythmjones ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I fucking love these sample packs, keep 'em comin'!

  • @waltermal1
    @waltermal1 ปีที่แล้ว

    great stuff keep it comin’

  • @bwmedina
    @bwmedina ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve always liked the drum sound on FM’s eponymous record as well as Rumours, very cool to see how they did it

  • @DEADLINETV
    @DEADLINETV ปีที่แล้ว

    Love that sound!

  • @dinosaursr
    @dinosaursr ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks. Fun to revisit that era’s sound production.

  • @longotown
    @longotown ปีที่แล้ว

    Love it! Great vid, thank you!

  • @tdrum21
    @tdrum21 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this track

  • @jframjams
    @jframjams ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In Ken Caillet's book, he notes that they used an API console and he was a big fan of digging into the eq's. Nice vid!

  • @AndrewJohnClive
    @AndrewJohnClive ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Cure album Faith - amazing drum sound!🙏🏻❤️

    • @dangayle
      @dangayle ปีที่แล้ว

      All Cats Are Grey is amazing

  • @AmitEshbal
    @AmitEshbal ปีที่แล้ว

    Wowzers, this is great, thanks!

  • @adrianlyord5300
    @adrianlyord5300 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pretty cool and that's my favorite from Fleetwood Mac " Dreams " beat / song! Awesome job!🎼🤘🏾😎

  • @JackGaby
    @JackGaby ปีที่แล้ว

    Y'all nailed it

  • @hankboerman8238
    @hankboerman8238 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sounds great.

  • @davidroper726
    @davidroper726 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Love those dead 70’s drums. I Can’t Tell You Why has a great sound too.

  • @joeboonmusic4004
    @joeboonmusic4004 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is awesome, love this series! Would love to see a break down of the drum sounds on Beck's 'Sea Change'... One of my favourite drum sounds.

  • @curtisburns
    @curtisburns ปีที่แล้ว

    Spot on.

  • @martygintronic7071
    @martygintronic7071 ปีที่แล้ว

    Superb Mick-Style playing, by the way :-)

  • @timstevens3183
    @timstevens3183 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I dare you guys to recreate Nirvana's In Utero drum sound!

  • @alberttherkelsen9099
    @alberttherkelsen9099 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    right

  • @canastraroyal
    @canastraroyal 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How about Alan Tew's soundtrack for The Hanged Man? Now that's a smooth drum tone.

  • @UnixStudios
    @UnixStudios ปีที่แล้ว

    Killer sound and vid

  • @calebross9215
    @calebross9215 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please do ‘when the levee breaks’ drums. reckon that would be dope!!

  • @JohnBassarcticsoundstudios
    @JohnBassarcticsoundstudios 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Also the drums on that album were 2nd generation. They lost all the highs on the master tape of the drums because they wore it out. The 2nd Gen safety copy were clearer then the 1st gen tape.

  • @EduFirenze
    @EduFirenze ปีที่แล้ว

    70s sounds are so clean and open, today everything is compressed like plywood

  • @samefacebutadifferentperson
    @samefacebutadifferentperson ปีที่แล้ว

    that envelope is what they used to do too, especially on tusk if u listen to the demos & the final drums

  • @louisoppenheimer
    @louisoppenheimer ปีที่แล้ว +2

    you should all reach out to ken caillat who worked on the original recording. a lot of the sound came from the room it was recorded in. it was a tom hidley design which was known to be super dead. recorded with an api console.

  • @korkishkovsevolod6101
    @korkishkovsevolod6101 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't play drums, but this videos are really rad

  • @ilanabryne8987
    @ilanabryne8987 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love how this sounds. Could we get the individual samples, please?

  • @ryangunwitch-black
    @ryangunwitch-black ปีที่แล้ว

    That's definitely the sound of the 70s. Lol I remember going into studios with my dad in the late 70s and 80s and the rooms were all so dead. Everyone would marvel at a dead room. Now, I'm looking for the complete opposite.

  • @Jordannofun
    @Jordannofun ปีที่แล้ว

    curious about which envelope follower plugin was used. great video as always

  • @chrisjung2482
    @chrisjung2482 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You have to do the ELO/ Jeff Lynne drum sound!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @djlungo
    @djlungo ปีที่แล้ว

    I think I ones saw some footage of Mac Fleetwood recording his snare seperatet from the rest of the kit. And with a mad expression on his face...

  • @tedbarber7663
    @tedbarber7663 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would really love a Clouds Taste Metallic/Race for the Prize (Flaming Lips) drum video

  • @dasbear10
    @dasbear10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Similar intro to The Doors Hello I love you. Love the drum sound of Grace Jones Slave to the rhythm.

  • @drewsleyy3836
    @drewsleyy3836 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do more dirty/processed drums! Like the song “Cheerleader” by St Vincent - anything John Congleton has produced, honestly

  • @straypacket
    @straypacket ปีที่แล้ว

    Lefty Drummers FTW - thanks!!!!

  • @quarryqwerty
    @quarryqwerty ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes!!! Yes!!!!!

  • @Boleskinebeatz
    @Boleskinebeatz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good job... so the hi frequencies in the snare sound were just from the overheads or the envelope follower or both? the snare wire sound was always very present in the F M drum sound so surprised you didn't have a bottom snare mic but either way it worked!

  • @DaPhunk73
    @DaPhunk73 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice video! I see you use the BFD snare muffler. To your ears in the room they usually sound great, but I find that for recording, they sometimes kill the drum a bit too much, which may be why you need the "cheat" transient designer on the snare track?

  • @joermnyc
    @joermnyc ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Be curious to see a Smashing Pumpkins Siamese Dream episode, Matt Chamberlain’s drums sound great considering they have to compete with Billy Corgan’s wall of fuzzed out guitars (rumors of some tracks having dozens of guitar tracks stacked on top of each other.)

    • @jaysonredd5126
      @jaysonredd5126 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I believe you mean Jimmy. And I agree.

    • @joermnyc
      @joermnyc ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jaysonredd5126 right, though Matt is another great drummer.

    • @Tyrannosaurine
      @Tyrannosaurine ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great drum sound. Jimmy has always been fond of his Radio King (???) snare drum on that record.

    • @joermnyc
      @joermnyc ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Tyrannosaurine Slingerland Radio King, apparently made in various head and depth sizes over the years. Looks like Jimmy actually sold the one he played on “Today” on Reverb a while ago for $4 grand! (I believe he has been known to play two different sizes of snare on tour.)

    • @Tyrannosaurine
      @Tyrannosaurine ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@joermnyc Nice! Thanks for the information.

  • @WildernessMusic_GentleSerene
    @WildernessMusic_GentleSerene ปีที่แล้ว +10

    In the days of tape and vinyl we never heard drums like we would live. Extreme compression or backing off on levels, or deadening the sound of the drums with physical covers and barriers. The drums in most my rock and jazz vinyl was so suppressed they might as well been playing carboard boxes. Drums were not a part of reality in the recording, with electric guitars out front all the time. For a young audiophile of the 1970's, drums were always the most disappointing unrealistic instrument in the recording.

    • @jamesangusmusic
      @jamesangusmusic ปีที่แล้ว

      but the performances transcended everything

  • @fritsvanzanten3573
    @fritsvanzanten3573 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will there be a sample set for the individual parts of the the kit? So we can play it our own way? ;-) I guess you already recorded them? In my dreams that is. You make playin' fun.

  • @DELLUEdotCOM
    @DELLUEdotCOM 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Snare is slightly bright, otherwise y'all nailed it!

  • @pawnotdaw4559
    @pawnotdaw4559 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was great! We’re you doing the eq on computer rather than the desk while tracking?

  • @AB.BABY.
    @AB.BABY. ปีที่แล้ว

    Would love to see you figure out “Hallogallo” by Neu!

  • @sevchyk
    @sevchyk ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When you have drums and drumming wife, you don’t need any Eq.

  • @leethium6982
    @leethium6982 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i'd love to see
    - Portishead - Cowboy's drum sound
    - Martin Hannett's Joy Division drum sound
    -

    • @ilanabryne8987
      @ilanabryne8987 ปีที่แล้ว

      Paolo at Synth Mania did a little jam in a MH/JD style and I found it useful for learning about the technique th-cam.com/video/tiGYEkA_nqA/w-d-xo.html

    • @Tyrannosaurine
      @Tyrannosaurine ปีที่แล้ว

      While I enjoy both them enough, let’s be honest, what you’re asking for isn’t going to please that many people and is therefore kinda unlikely, right? I mean, Rumors sold tens of millions of copies. Portishead, not so much.

    • @Tyrannosaurine
      @Tyrannosaurine ปีที่แล้ว

      @@josephmartin8169 I totally agree that many very talented bands saw little or no success. I actually really like Portishead. I listen to far more obscure music at times and would love some sort of breakdown on their music, but I acknowledge that it’s pretty unlikely.

  • @waynegram8907
    @waynegram8907 ปีที่แล้ว

    What did you add the envelope follower to which drum or mic?

  • @jasoneboles
    @jasoneboles ปีที่แล้ว

    What version of Protools did Fleetwood Mac use?

  • @freddy.gillmore
    @freddy.gillmore 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi @reverb Could you upload the separate samples please? There's just a loop on the download link :) Thanks

  • @maggieo
    @maggieo ปีที่แล้ว

    I bet that Mick Fleetwood's loooong legs and arms made spacing the instruments out easy-peasey.

  • @halovair
    @halovair หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can someone kindly explain what he meant by "adding an envelope follower" to the kick means? I know it traces the transient, but is it being sent to something else?

  • @paulbadoo9326
    @paulbadoo9326 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oasis Definitely maybe era drums. Shaker maker, supersonic, live forever. ..please.

  • @ClassicRockLivesOn
    @ClassicRockLivesOn ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not a drum mixing expert by any means, but it also reminds me of Ringo on Abbey Road

    • @Tyrannosaurine
      @Tyrannosaurine ปีที่แล้ว

      Super dry…dampened…sure I can see it.

  • @jessesmith4583
    @jessesmith4583 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    can you do t rex mad donna?

  • @simonbarth3181
    @simonbarth3181 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For me it sound as if the overheads were actually a recorderman setup. Becouse while the hihat is seperated, it doesnt sound to me as if its on the left of the kit. This strange stereo yet centered sound always is evidance for this oh setup. Also they allegidly used a 441 on the kick. Would have loved to hwar that!

  • @SeanofAllTrades
    @SeanofAllTrades 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is such a great drum sound. Any chance you guys can upload the one-shots like you have for some of the others kits?

  • @SMAAAASHTV
    @SMAAAASHTV 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Confused why this is one of the only "What's that sound" that is just a loop and not individual samples. Any chance on getting the individual drum samples?

    • @peterellman9672
      @peterellman9672 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What’s on the snare drum for muffling ?

  • @thundersnow819
    @thundersnow819 ปีที่แล้ว

    I vote for Amen, Brother. Should just get it out of the way now.

  • @curly_wyn
    @curly_wyn 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Warm dry 70s drums >>>>>>>> Hollow gated-reverb 80s drums.

  • @RyanSommer
    @RyanSommer ปีที่แล้ว

    Ahhh...what's up with the curve on that 451?

  • @lookapi
    @lookapi ปีที่แล้ว

    🤟🤟🤟

  • @wbmstr24
    @wbmstr24 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So did anyone talk to mick Fleetwood 🤔

  • @antoniog2854
    @antoniog2854 ปีที่แล้ว

    cant find the sample pack on the link..

    • @Reverb
      @Reverb  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hey Antonio, sorry about that. We have the stereo drum loop from this video here now, along with sample packs from the rest of the series: bit.ly/3nOuzKt

    • @antoniog2854
      @antoniog2854 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@Reverb Thanks! any chance of getting one shot hits of this kit?
      Also, "Modern-Retro Drum Sample Pack in the Style of "Rehab"" and "Drum Sounds in the Style of John Lennon's "Instant Karma"" packs are in a strange format and i can't open them.

  • @rivinduwanniachchi1126
    @rivinduwanniachchi1126 ปีที่แล้ว

    Eagles hotel California album had a similar drum sound

  • @andersamer_
    @andersamer_ ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone know what bpm she's playing at?

    • @lordhammerwind
      @lordhammerwind ปีที่แล้ว

      Either 69, 420 or 666 bpm.
      YMMV

  • @guitardude4700
    @guitardude4700 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why don’t you ask the producer of rumors

  • @SolamenteVees
    @SolamenteVees ปีที่แล้ว

    I love, love this series, but dampened means to make something damp or wet. Damped is the correct term...

  • @TUSK1157
    @TUSK1157 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was a huge Fleetwood Mac fan until they thought firing Lindsey Buckingham was a good idea. The 2 in the video, I don't believe were born when this album was released. Lol To me, Dreams is a 2 chord wonder and a truly great example of beauty in simplicity.

    • @CoffeeTroll
      @CoffeeTroll ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lyricbread exhausting but absolutely necessary!

    • @DynamicRockers
      @DynamicRockers ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My fav is the LP Buckingham Nicks

  • @robshrock-shirakbari1862
    @robshrock-shirakbari1862 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sounds really good. Would love to get clean individual hits, as well.
    I think the OHs are filtered a little too much, actually... could have either lowered the frequency or maybe used a gentler slope. Hats and cymbals sound very tinny and AM-radio-y; which could be cool, but not alongside the much fuller sounding shells. There's a disconnect between shells and china to my ear that is not there in the Fleetwood Mac, Eagles, etc. tracks of the era. Just my opinion, YMMV.

    • @samot1808
      @samot1808 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It really does sound like this in the actual record. It work great in the full mix.

  • @ksharpe10
    @ksharpe10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Only because it was the Worst Drums I ever heard. Do the Outfield's 1st album, yup the Album with Josie/All the Love. But the Drum sound is the same thru the whole CD. Say it isn't So, my favorite song by them with horrid sounding drums, it mainly is the snare drum sound, it is loud in the mix and sounds so Dull.

  • @JohannesLabusch
    @JohannesLabusch ปีที่แล้ว

    If I was directing this dude, I'd encourage him to stop using the word "right" where it doesn't belong, right?

  • @thaddeuscorea
    @thaddeuscorea ปีที่แล้ว

    So, whose wallet is it?

  • @bobharley2814
    @bobharley2814 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sub par

  • @westwalnutrecords
    @westwalnutrecords ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Too much talking

  • @2jacko2
    @2jacko2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please do The Dead Weather - Horehound album! Jack White's kit is crazy cool