Fleetwood Mac - Rumours: Albums That Changed Music
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Lindsey Buckingham is one of the few living geniuses of pop music. As much credit as he gets, I still don’t think it’s enough when you consider what he contributed changed how we hear music today. Great episode.
Thanks ever so much
I agree.
I think he sometimes comes across as being a bit aloof which is caused by social awkwardness, maybe because of too much time spent alone in the studio, because he should be far more popular and appreciated.
@@nonnayoubuzinnes1669. lol! What! Aloof isn't a word that describes Lindsey Buckingham. He was a great gift to FM. He's been a team player. Leave it to Stevie (narcissistic egomaniac) and of course a spoiled brat, having the nerve to tell the band to choose between her or Lindsey. Shame on her.
@@DianaKing-po2qj Oh I totally agree about Stevie, the bitter old goat is annoying as hell and lives a weird existence surrounded by her assistants. I was actually defending Lindsey! I think he can come across as being a bit aloof but he isn't, it's just he can be awkward socially, you notice it in publicity photos when he doesn't smile very often or in some interviews. Stevie sleeping around especially with Mick can't have helped him, am sure that affected how he can sometimes come across.
Hearing Christine sing songbird live was one of the highlights of my life. I think it was Wembley Arena which is a pretty big venue but you could have heard a pin drip. Special lady, special song. RIP.
Thanks ever so much for sharing that Steve! Beautifully said!
I think this might be the best-sounding album of all time. I'm just talking pure production value. I use it as a reference all the time, especially the song "The Chain."
I just find this whole story remarkable. How many bands have three main songwriters and three main singers? Not many throughout history. And how many of those bands can say their three main songwriters were all capable of writing major hits? And how many of those bands had multiple members dating each other, had those members break up, still stayed together as a band, and somehow went on to produce their best album and one of the most commercially successful albums of all time? So many bands break up over far less than this.
Well The Beatles had three main singer-songwriters, but I'm pretty sure that none of them were dating.
@@Dave_Sisson Hey, I didn't say no other bands had three main singer-songwriters. And that's part of what makes The Beatles special as well.
And Paul and John may not have been dating but they were definitely in love with each other.
@@Dave_Sisson it does seem that a minima of two amazing songwriters is what sets the greatest bands apart! At least an amazing pair of collaborators! Queen of course had all 4 guys write songs, all of which write singles, with John Deacon witting a handful of some of the biggest songs of all time!
Yes, this is one a kind album, it is one of my Desert Island records! I have to say Warren has a amazing way of doing technical diagnosis while still making the story so interesting and engaging- he is a great interviewer! I had seen a Fleetwood Mac Rumors documentary years ago and learning about the turmoil going on their relationship makes the music so much more important and relevant especially in times like today. Every single track is golden- I wept when I heard Christine had passed this year, Song bird hits me so hard every time I hear it now. I am so lucky to have grown up in that era hearing this music on the radio. Amazing video, thank you Warren
Queen had each member of the band pen a number 1. But your point is well taken.
Fleetwood Mac demonstrated why musicians need to ‘support’ a lyrical song. Listeners want an emotional connection.
Very well said
It’s kind of weird. As an old man today, I can trace my taste/love of music directly back to this album. I was 13 in 1977. Rumors ruled the airwaves.
Even now..the brilliance is clear to me. What a ride it’s been. What a great time it was! 😊
Warren, I can't fully express nor articulate the significance of this album and how it shaped my adolescent musical schema. I played it concurrently with Pink Floyd's 'Wish You Were Here' during the summer of 77 and introduced it to some similarly aged family friends during that time. To this day it calls to mind a time in my life where my youthful and hormonally addled mind was immersed in a torrent of emotion never before experienced by such sonic and lyrical brilliance. I was 10+ years late to the Beatles and 60s music experience but man, the mid~late 70s were a watershed era of music across many genres. Thanks again mate for sharing this. Peace..
Perfect Album, sublime coming together of three great songwriters at their artistic peak, musically brilliant and expertly produced
Thanks for sharing!
I first heard this Rumours album on the radio in 1977. I was a junior high school teen. It was the song ‘you make loving fun’ and then rock station played ‘dreams’. I was like wow! I already liked the 1975 Mac album and this one seemed another hit. I would raise the volume on the radio every time those songs were played. My father who likes 40s and 50s music also started liking Fleetwood Mac. We will miss you Christine Mcvie very much. My father also since passed away. Thank you for the memories of music.
Wild hair Warren! When we made a 14 day road trip through the UK, we decided to listen only to the most iconic albums from the Rolling Stone list.....Rumours was the only one we put on repeat! Its on constant rotation in my house and studio ever since! Somehow it still sounds fresh!
A great doco on a great album - fascinating.
Thanks ever so much! I really appreciate it
High school, I bought this album. I loved it. The older I get, the more I love and appreciate it. I never heard about the tensions or paid enough attention to the lyrics to understand the sacrifices and struggles the band members made to create this amazing art. I guess it was like when the Sting, Andy and Stuart of the Police used the hate, tension and oneupmanship to drive the creative forces to another level. I'm sorry you guys had to endure, but I'm grateful for the outcome.
The Chain. Thank you BBC for using this as the Formula 1 theme tune. It is irreplacable! Play that and I think of Sunday afternoons listening to Murray Walker and James Hunt. Happy, happy days, with a Fleetwood Mac soundtrack. I and many others will never forget.
One of the all time great albums.
Well said!
This is an outstanding piece of work about an important album. Good job, Warren and crew!
Thanks ever so much Rylie!
Just an unbelievably good album. The production is sterling. It’s one the greatest albums to come out during my high school days. For some reason, it took me a bit to warm up to it, but it is just genius….
Thanks ever so much Tom!
May you rest in peace Christine McVie..
Yes, Rest In Peace Christine McVie
Song Bird is an incredible piece of music. The way Christine sang it.
Insane, I was just talking to. My wife today about the personal dynamics of this wonderful group of people, how they met, and then this record being produced on the way to the city today. Then right now, behold your video was released an hour after we were talking. Great work once again!
Amazing! Thanks ever so much for sharing!
Am on such a Fleetwood Mac dive at the moment. Micks drum sounds and fills are awesome. So sad to lose Christine. Such magical timeless music. Still sounds fresh.
Finally a Fleetwood Mac video! Great to see this feature on the channel!
More to come! Thanks
This is a great addendum to the Classic Albums documentary.
Thanks ever so much! I really appreciate it
Wow what can be said that hasn't already about this once in a lifetime LP. They truly captured something that will never be repeated. 100 or 1,000 years from now people will still love this record. Thanks PLAP, and btw, nice Mutton Chops Warren. Sherlock Holmes would be proud.
When I was a kid growing up in the San Fernando valley in the 70s I used to work for my Dad on weekends at his equipment facility in Van Nuys. It turns out that some EPIC recordings were being made literally a stonesthrow from his office at Sound City. Google maps shows that I was toiling away at a menial high school job about 200 yards from where some of the most amazing music of my childhood was being layed down. (including Fleetwood Mac)
Totally agree that this album is beyond perfect. To channel such angst into music is one thing, but to do it with all the personal conflict ongoing and being dealt with is insane. Diamonds.
Well said! Thanks for sharing!
Thanks Warren for another informative video. Bought this album on vinyl in 1977 (I was 17 at the time) and still have it. I can't count how many times I must have listened to both it and its predecessor. Both brilliant. It was great learning a bunch of things that I didn't already know. And you are a great interviewer. Letting your subject talk without interruption is rare these days. Keep up the great work! You always bring such enthusiasm and positive vibes to your presentations.
Enjoyed the story, especially the conversation with Caillat. Got Rumors queued up for my nightly dog walk. Afterwards, I'll watch your interview with him. Thanks to all at PLaP.
Thanks ever so much Craig!
Another great chapter in your outstanding documentary series. Always worth the time!
I remember when this LP came out. My dad had it, all of his friends had it, all of their friends had it, etc. I've listened to it a bunch of times front-to-back over the years, and I have always ONLY heard a competent late-'70s pop rock record, a solid B+.
B PLUS? This record is A plus if there ever was one.
Thanks Warren, been waiting for this one. Total classic.
Glad you enjoyed it
And the middle of "The Chain" was used by the BBC as an opener for their F1 coverage
I remember it very well!
What got across to the buying Public? The SOUND, and even more, the emotional truth. In reference to the first - a blow by blow engineering account would never be dull. And for the second - gain comes from pain, and all five were growing as people and as performers.
Absolutely! A great album in every way
Rumours is a cornerstone album for me. It's one of THE first albums I remember from my childhood and at 48 I still play it regularly. Songbird specifically I play weekly. I've read and heard all the album breakdowns over the years and this was really great to hear some genuine love for the material. As opposed to just someone rehashing stories, comments and rumours (see what I did there!) just for click bait and channel views. That producer insight coupled to the genuine fan made this and I really appreciate the effort put into something so genuinely special to me.
You have to recall how crowded the airwaves were when this was released.
A year after Frampton , Hotel CA, TITA, Thin Lizzy, Boston, ...
The list was huge for my senior year of HS.
Anf The Mac topped them all.
The Chain!?
My lord.
This is best yet Warren
Fantastic! Thank you for doing this one, Warren! Such a great record.
Thanks ever so much for sharing Aaron!
Just finished reading Ken Caillat's book about the production of Rumours. It is well worth the read for anyone interested in the subject.
You asked for suggestions, I think the journey of David Silvian would be a fantastic video, from early Bowiesque post punk glam, through New Romanticism and on to his solo work and collaborations with Fripp and Sakamoto and beyond. David Silvian, there is an artist who truly went his own way and influenced so many.
🎵"Don't, stop, making these awesome segments!"🎵 Seriously, great vid. I could watch these pieces forever, my friend. Cheers!
Sonically perfect and every song is sequenced perfectly.. I don't need to say much more ❤
Thanks ever so much for sharing!
I've been waiting a long time for you to.make this video, I wasn't disappointed!
Another album that shaped my musical tastes, which I left off my list. Thank you for highlighting this amazing album and group lineup.
This is my favorite record of all time, it's the one I always reach for over others.
I think the quote near the end is prescient. Masterpiece albums just don’t happen like this anymore because of how formulaic the production process has become. The next great album will likely be made in a bedroom, or a bathroom, or a garage; somewhere where creatives can still afford to experiment.
An album to hold up as an example of excellence in all aspects.
I still have my 1977 copy.
Thanks ever so much for sharing! Yes, wonderful album
My favorite snare is the dreams intro 😊
Beautiful
Lindsey Buckingham was the sole producer of this album according to Richard Dashut, he said Ken C and him engineered the album but it was Lindsey who did all the arrangements and production. What a shame he didn't fight to get that recognition, he is underrated as it is.
Rumours - the only album about divorce that doesn’t just dwell on the “f you” side of splitting up.
So much I could say here, but I won't. It's been a very wild ride. Life really is, stranger than fiction. :) ...and it keeps on being that way. ❤
Thanks ever so much for sharing!
Love the hairstyle Warren. You're taking 1976 method acting to a new level ❤
Love these! Thanks, Warren.
Great video. As a lifelong-time Fleetwood Mac fan, I think "Rumours" is one of the greatest albums they ever made. However I don't think it is especially ground-breaking in terms of musical and sonic excellence. For anyone who knows the history of the band from their very first records, and their outstanding creativity in albums like "Kiln House" and "Then Play On" and many more---- the production qualities have always been first-rate. Since Day One, the foundation of Fleetwood Mac has always been the fantastic rhythm section of Mick and John. Those two guys are so locked in to each other it's amazing, and they create the bedrock of every song the band has ever recorded. (In my humble opinion)
Warren: you asked us viewers what classic album that you should look at and do analysis of. There is one album by one band you should examine and it’s “Steve McQueen” by Prefab Sprout which is arguably the Greatest Pop Album of the Eighties.
Marvellous idea! I’ll add to the list!
I only just discovered this album recently, despite knowing about its existence my whole life. The Chain is so incredibly well written and produced that you cannot help be moved and inspired by it.
The background story with all of the personal drama going on makes it that much more captivating, though this is often the case with the best songs in rock music. Nobody ever made powerful music whilst they were just coasting through life with no worries.
What’s most interesting though, is that Rick Turner custom guitar that Lindsey Buckingham played on that album and the tour. Weird and ugly looking thing, but it sounded amazing and he still to this day prefers it over any other guitar.
Excellent Warren. Btw, Buddy Holly played through a Lesley speaker on a track Norman Petty had him record during his session work on other artists tracks in Petty's studio in Clovis. That was in 1958. Song was "Look To The Future" by Gary Tollett (Dale).
A guitar sounds phenomenal through a Leslie!
Edit: If you haven't already, have you considered interviewing Alan Parsons?
Yes! I’ve done it many times! Wonderful effect!
What an absolutely wonderful video.
Warren, your hair looks awesome. Many cheers, sir.
Hahaha thanks ever so much
You're looking more like Alvin Stardust, Mate. Coal black hair and sideburns, nice.
Haha just growing my hair! And I’m just lowly producer and engineer not a professional TH-camr! Ha
Here's a tricky suggestion: At the Drive-In's Relationship of Command. Produced by Ross Robinson. So much to say about that album, arguably ATDI at their best, such a massive sounding album that made everyone stop and listen. No band could match that raw power.
IMO, it's rare to find an album where you actually like all the tracks. The Beatles are the only band I like where I enjoy every track (or the majority) on all their albums. Rumors is one of those albums. Christine McVie doesn't get enough love for her writing and singing. To me, she was the best. Hard to see Fleetwood Mac having as much success without her contributions. Plus, I think she was absolutely beautiful. Excellent video.
“Add 12db at 16k”
I’m actually gonna start doing this more often now that I tried it out lol
Haha he does like his aggressive EQ!
The engineer, Ken Caillat, wrote an EXCELLENT book about the creation of the album.
For example, he tells the story about my favorite Fleetwood song, Secondhand News. It caused quite a bit of trouble during the recording.
Some of the first rock/pop music I was exposed to was Rumours. My father and his best friend were into Hi-fi stereo equipment and I'll never forget the moment they compared the first CD release of the album to an original pressing they had of the LP. They played it through my fathers system with Klipsch Cornwall speakers and the difference was night and day the LP was a million times better!!. I would sit in the chair in the living room with my RadioShack cassette recorder and record the music my dad would play through those massive speakers. You could say that was the pivotal moment in my childhood that I became immensely interested in Hi-fi and audio which years later would spark my interest in recording my own music. Rumours was not only influential musically, but sonically.
Your voice and story telling is always missed ….and your program I can’t forget.
Thanks for sharing! I really appreciate that!
Great stuff as always Warren! Such an epic story for anyone who loves music and has been through a breakup themselves (so pretty much all of us I suppose...) Kudos on the interview with Ken C. I'm glad to hear he bought the studio (If I understood correctly.)
First time i heard this record was at my school when it came out. One of my teachers brought it in to play on our fold out record player.....i went to a real hippy school, so playing records was very normal. I can't remember if I liked it or not?, but they played it all the time.
Years later in my late teens i recognized they were great songwriters, and that it was a great record.
Years ago i did cartage for Mick. He was a pretty nice guy..........it's hands down one of the greatest records of the last 50yrs.
great video, thanks Warren! I was a massive Peter Green fan and it took me a while to accept this line-up with its very different style but Rumours was so undeniably strong it won me over. Fantastic songs, singing and production. And that fantastic rhythm section . . . I've loved Fleetwood & McVie's playing since they were in John Mayall's Bluesbreakers, before Peter Green started the band, and their rock-sold foundation has held the band together throughout their long career. How about a video on Born to Run?
Fantastic video!!🎉👏👏
Thank you! Cheers!
Love the hair
Simply a must have for any record collection . Appetite for destruction is the greatest album though
Great video! Please more album analytical reviews.
Hello Warren,good evening,i wish you make a interview with a singer/musician and songwriter Rachel Fannan,ex- Sleepy Sun,Black mountain and Anywhere,cheers and have a nice sunday,good night for you,greetings from São Paulo,Brazil!!!!!!!
"Time" from ELO!
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I have one of these albums. It appears the grooves have worn off, but if you tape a weight above the needle on the record player it will play anyway.
6:41 Buckingham with a three pickup tele. Try to google for a picture like that.
Marvellous! Thanks for sharing!
I came across your channel with your really interesting Jeff Wayne’s war of the world video, so hoping this video is the same, as both this and WotW albums were introduced to me by my dad who was a lover like me of music, loving the interviews and information you relay to us the audience, a couple albums worth a look is Cat Stevens “tea for the tillerman” and I have always loved depeche mode ‘violater’. Please doing the great work!
looking shaggy, Woz. Dare you to grow the sideys out to Trevor Bolder length ;)
Side note: you look like a rock star, Warren.
Haha king nights working on mixes definitely messes with my hair!
Alvin Stardust lives on!
Great record and tutorial!
I think the fact that the album still feels relevant and continuities to impact a new generation of listeners, like my two sons, is a testament to its absolute brilliance. Rumors continues to give me the ‘feelies’!
Thanks for sharing!
Yeah, the cynical opinion would be to say that Fleetwood Mac shrewdly chose to write about topics that mostly anyone can relate to,
but of course, you won't get anywhere without great songs. And they had them!
10:49 Is that Eric and Kevin from 10cc in the control room?
I think Rumours' success is largely based on human values which never have a shelf life like pop music does - it's my daughters favourite album. I'd really love it if you could do a similar review on my all time favourite band Led Zeppelin and in particular Led Zeppelin 1. I've heard it was recorded in a ridiculously short amount of time.
Thanks!!!! Coldplay and Dave Matthews Band… yes some great records there! And Grace by Jeff B. One of favorite.. An Other Cup by Yusuf Islam (Cat Stevens)
Fleetwood Mac is always anywhere anyplace all at once wherever I listen to audio. Even if I go to Kohls they are with me🧡
Incredible Band. Incredible musicians. Incredible engineers. Rumors will be studied long after humanity has left the building. Legendary recording. Great intropective!
Do something different as far as genres. DJ Shadows endtroducing or Mobys Play! 🎶
Abby Road by The Beatles is great
Masterpiece!
I remember trying to play my guitar to ”you make loving fun” always going out of tune - but they speed up the tape through the song, don’t they?
Stevie said she felt "Gold Dust Woman" would have sounded great as a hard rock song and offered it to the all-female band The Runaways (Joan Jett and Lita Ford) in late 1977, but the band turned her offer down. It would take years before Hole and Courtney Love were able to turn the track into the hard rock drama that Stevie had originally envisioned.
Gretchen goes to Nebraska by King's X would be a good one but I'll settle for Dogman.
Awesome!! Perhaps you can talk about the Album “Older” by George Miachel ?
I love that album Luis!
@@Producelikeapro yeah , I’ve always wanted to know how and what was used for his unique voice . Specially in the “Older” album
I only like 1 song on the album and that is "Never go back again ".
It was the apex, or nadir… the inevitable result of the decade preceding it, no changes here. An album that so cemented and reinforced the tropes of top40 US radio's global hegemony that it forced the inevitable punk rock explosion that would burn it all to the ground. For one hot minute anyways...
Time to do something about Oasis don't you think?
Does anybody else think that the two sides should have been swapped over so that the album would begin with 'The Chain' (a better opener imho) and end with 'Songbird' (a great closing track)?
I have tried it the other way round, and to me, no, it doesn't seem right.
This is one album that unequivocally works best as originally sequenced.
It was hell being a teen guitar player when this album came out. All the sexy girls wanted to only hear you play songs from Rumors 🤦🏻♂️
When you're in a band, you don't get with your bandmate's girlfriend - past or present.
Yes, well thanks for that.
You get a love triangle - you know? Fleetwood Mac situation.
Well there there was four of them, so more of a love square. But you know, no one gets on.
Okay, I see.
Mind you, they did make some of their best music back then.
Rumours.
No, that's all true.
How did a band get that much rope to hang themselves and then resurrect from the oblivion of debt. Only the music business could have sustained which that they had extracted from for so long. What a swing and a hit. It was like nothing that had come before the my time and each song was better than the next. You would flip the record and it would continue to be true.
I was 17? I was moving away from mainstream 'pop' into Pink Floyd and Genesis. Dreams I can't stand now. Go Your Own Way I can still listen to, and Never Going Back Again is probably my favourite song on the album because of Buckingham's guitar playing. Afair, they lost the plot after Rumours.
I have a challenge foryou Warren. Rosie Vela, Zazu.
Great record but I have to admit I prefer Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac.
Hi Warren, I've just realised that your speaking voice is IDENTICAL to that of actor Tony Robinson (aka Baldrick from Blackadder). There that's that sorted :)
I love Tony Robinson! However, I unfortunately don’t sound like him. We have quite clear regional differences in our accent! Thanks for the compliment though! Tony has that amazing History Show if you haven’t already seen it you should!
@@Producelikeapro Time Team, I know it well. Thanks for the videos
Gimme PG FM. I'd pass on anything else,,,,Station Man was what got me.