merchannel yay! Yeah, it’s kind of funny that we say “70s” anyway since not *everything* from that decade sounds muffled and low but alas everyone knows exactly what you mean by it! What’s the first thing you think of when you hear “80s drum sounds”? Lol!
If you're an engineer and you've never heard of this untill just now then you're not an engineer. You remind me of one of those guys on the job site that claims to be an electrician but never seen someone twist wires before capping with a wire nut. Don't claim to be something you're not. It's pretty disrespectful to the people who worked to become what you're out there claiming.
@@TempoDrift1480 I didn’t intend to hurt your feelings and feelings of community. Now you exposed me and I’ll go kill myself. You’ll continue with all the disrespect I left on you with my initial comment.
@@TempoDrift1480 You sound like an asshole. Putting someone down for wanting to learn something new. And you say they were 'disrespectful'? Get a grip my guy
All of the tape and muffling has nothing to do with your achievement of great 70's tone. It's quite simply that, that miraculous mustache has magical powers.
Tortilla. Lol. Waste of fucking money. A fucking tampon would do the same job. I swear, they can market any ol shit and suckers will buy it. It's essentially a fucking rag.
Good example! Had to give it another listen and yeah I hear the muffling clearly! EDIT: There’s some bizarre panning on that song when listening with AirPods wow. Very separated sounds and really forward sounding. Feels like the band is playing right in front of ya and to the left and right a lot.
How in the fuck am I just finding this man and his wonderful mustache and channel after 14 years of being a musician and 4 years of Berklee... I now have to binge this entire channel LOL
Something especially cool I realized watching this is that this technique would probably be a dream for adding post-production effects. Having such a dry in-studio sound means that you could add reverb to the snare for space or do some wild psyche inspired effects on the whole kit without so much natural resonance making it sound messy or muddy.
I swear tuning drums well is harder than playing them well. Having said that, this was a very helpful video. Thanks Jake. I will now continue to drive myself nuts trying to get the sound of method #2.
I think playing them well is way harder. Good playing can make even bad tuning sound great. Flipped around though great tuning will never make a bad drummer sound good. Once you hit more than 1 acoustic drum it's very hard to make it sound musical instead of just noise. A good drummer can use anything as drums and they'll sound good. No Tuning required.
Use a very cheap drum dial or some sort of tunning device, it is only more difficult if you are tuning to an exact pitch but there are apps for that as well..
This is exactly the video I wanted to see 10 years ago when I was trying to figure out why my drums didn't sound like recordings! Amazing video, thank you!
The best part (and this is ALL really good!) is the advice on sound creating vibe at the end. Once you hear that tone, you have no choice but to be Don Hendley
As a guitarist and by definition deaf through years of Marshall 4x12 therapy, I haven't a clue what you're going on about and couldn't care less but it sounds ace as far as I can tell ;-).
Having been there - here's how we did it back in the 80s. Nobody used towels. For the kick, a pillow usually and whatever weight, always with the front head off, tune a bit higher than usual to get that warm bottom end. Snare and toms - Take a piece of black duct tape less than a foot, put on a table sticky side up, fold some toilet paper or kleenex into a shape so it fits within the "rectangle" of the tape (leave plenty of sticky space all around), place it down in the middle of the tape, then take the tape and stick it across near the top edge of the drum head so it looks like a "censored" bar. If that's not enough (the snare and the floor toms especially), put one censored bar near the top and one censored bar near the bottom, like a big equals sign. If that's still not enough, put three so it forms a radioactive warning symbol. For the snare, use a Remo Emperor batter or if you've got the nerve, any 14" clear tom head; big woofy snare. To get a super tight short snare hit, put a bit of scotch tape across the snares. For the toms, put kleenex tapes on both the top and the bottom heads (and tune the bottom a bit higher than the top).
ohhhh! I'm so glad I found someone who's figured it out for me. Just recently started getting into 70s jams and wanting to replicate a lot of it in my playing. Thank you good sir for taking the time to find that sound.
Next level mustache game. I'm a guitarist and have no idea why I'm watching this. (Edit) I've just realised its analogous to finding the perfect level of slap back.
The point is that it's finding sweet spots, for literally everything. That's the magic. Or at least that's my perception of the magic. Great video Mr. Reed. You have a gift for this stuff.
easily one of the best drum videos on youtube ive ever watched. very simple and not getting to bogged down in the details, just messing about and finding something that sounds good. also love to see the ND868 get some much deserved love
I was a proponent of maxi pad strips slightly bunched without too much tightness against the snares seperated into groups of 3 staggarer. The a3 applied dampers on snare top head around periphery would leave a gap about 10:00 with the hats Sony comdense's azimuth betwixt the snare so as to catch the air compression upon hat close. The comdensor wae alligned perpindicular to also catch some of the crack attack from the snare. Snare pairs of 57s also could get that block of wood "memphis sound" by manipulating upper head and off sef (dampened placement near the lower rim wired slightly out of phase.
Thanks so much for this! My hubby got me a Mapex Venus kit for our 10yr Anniversary and I have not been able to find anyone that would just plain say/show how to lower the tones aside from saying get new heads or a new set. Taught me so much more in less than 15 minutes than the last 8 months have.
I applied some similar techniques to a First Act little kid's kit a few years ago just for kicks and giggles and it low key sounds fire. I use it all the time, especially the snare. Obviously not as high quality as anything an actually decent kit could put out, but just goes to show how much of a difference a little muting and dialing in can do.
This is probably one of the best videos I've seen covering the topic of changing or altering drum sounds. I'm sure there's plenty of videos covering this topic in a variety of ways. But as a non-drummer, this is more of an overall sound designing perspective that's actually very informative and friendly to the approach of editing your drums' sounds. For other videos I've seen covering the topic, many drummers slap the cloth covers on top and call it a day. But I appreciate the in-depth sound design showing the most minuscule changes to the weight on the drums changing the sounds drastically. Overall awesome beefy drum tones that definitely are inspiring, thank you for sharing your soundscaping techniques! It'd be awesome to get a sample pack of some of these drum sounds! Lol 🤙🥁
These videos are gold! I’m lovin’ them! Jake can you pleease do a video showing how you tune drums? I’m a beginning drummer and you seem to be able to wrangle any tone you want from your drums 😅
Watched it ages ago and loved it. It popped up a few times the last days so I became curious and clicked it again. And yeah, now it goes viral. That's good.
amazingly great. you should make a sample library of mutli-layered one shot. Could be the end of my quest for "dead" drum sample library. Very good job bro !
sounds great, u have a sweet 70's tash, too, i wanna hear how to sound like john Bonham, i don't know why i don't even play drums, but Bonhams sound was killer imo
Bonham sound was achieved by recording in a very big very reverb prone room (a stone castle) of course now a days you can just get a reverb prone space, and add more reverb post recording. unless you have a church or a space with that reverb it will be hard to achieve without using effects...
Excellent video. I think most of us drummers have practiced with big ear muff style target shooting hearing protection (Vic Firth and other companies manufactured them with headphone speaker elements to practice along with a click or song). I used those as like the template sound for pre-1980's tones, i.e. I'd try to make the drums sound like they would with the hearing protection on: thuddy but not obnoxiously ringy, etc. The Ringo/Glyn Johns tea towel method works of course, but the immediate clicky sound of drumstick bead to drum head is totally gone. The method our brother here showed with the ⅛th of the drum, at the edge covered with moongels, tape, etc works really well. I don't do it much because it's such a pain in the ass but I used to take felt strips and put them behind the drumhead, held down with the pressure of the rims pinching the bearing edges. Some bass drums had that muffling system on the front head but I'd do it on the batter heads of the tom's and kick. That technique sounds very cool but unless you have multiple kits (like our brother here with some straight BADASS kits), you're stuck with it unless you want to rehead your drums all the time.
man, you have an incredible look edit: just subbed and looked at your upload schedule and dude, please upload some more vids because the algorithm is blessing you
Thanks! Eventually, I’ll get around to uploading some more vids. I’m a new dad at the moment, so that’s taking up a lot of my time right now. Hopefully soon though!
Great video. I love the '70s sound. I was recently listening to Michael Jackson's Earth Song and I desperately want Jonathan Moffett's snare sound. How???
Just received a copy of, “It’s Gotta Swing”, by Jim Nunn. Have been listing to Blue Wisp Big Band tunes. I am so thankful I got to hear VO play while I was in Cincy. Got to hang with him too. Take care my friend.
Doing a drum session soon where I was looking for this exact type of sound, recognized you from an Andrew Masters video and laughed my ass off the entire time. Thanks for the great video, subscribed!
Right on man.. Rocking the 70s porno 'stache while learning everybody the secrets of that smooth super sexy swingin sound of the 70s.... Great content.
I like his Ron Swanson look, I wonder if I can pull it off 🤔 ... Songs for the deaf has pretty dead drums, Eric Valentine tracked cymbals after the drums
Ha! Thanks! It’s fun recording the cyms and drums separately. You can really get the drums sounding huge without the cymbals taking over on big rock stuff. Or, if you want super dry sounding drums, remove the cyms from the room completely and then overdub them later. Fun stuff!
Yeah. That sounds ridiculas. I temporarily live in Nebraska where everyone "tunes" their drums like that and wonders why they can't get more than 3 relatives at a show. Well, that's why. Ya'll don't know how to tune your shit.
@@loveisthelaw20042004 although i don't quite agree with you - i think Copeland is a fine drummer - Tony Williams is my favourite drummer. The '64 concert! That hi-hat! Nonetheless, Copeland has touch and feel in his genre(s)
The rolled up tape method is really great!! It solves the issue of that buzzing that can happen when you lay the tape flat and it inevitably starts to peel up a bit.
Big time! I also think there's something about the rolled up tapes that creates more weight in one spot on the drum, so it deadens it more right there instead of a piece the same size laid out flat. Just a theory though ... I could be completely full of it lol!
Great video! Instant subscription. Question: do you find the "70s" muffled sound decreasing overall volume or projection? I've always assumed that muffling to this extent wouldn't work in live situations without mics, but now I'm not so certain that is always the case. And have you applied tape under a cymbal? I seem to always have to "tune" rides with tape to compress and control overtones that I don't like.
Thanks! Basically, my take on muffling is that it really works well with close mic’ing. If there’s only overhead mics or no mics, I will do very little muffling or none at all. A lot of the overtones will get absorbed by the other instruments, and a lot of it depends on what the other instruments are, the sonic density of the music, and how loud everyone is playing. Same thing with cymbals! But, also, I’m on a never ending quest to find THE cymbal haha.
Michael Jones thanks! Good question ... I used to have moon gel but it just wasn’t for me. It either melted from being in my cymbal bag in the hot car, got so dirty it wouldn’t stick even after washing it with soap and water, or stained the drumheads. I’ve tried drum dots too! They all sort of work but I keep coming back to ol’ faithful gaff tape.
The easy answer is that moon gel doesn't sound right when trying to achieve this sound. Neither does the Big Fat Snare Drum products. The way he does it on the first kit was the most common method, whitout the cloth though, but definitely sounds great with the cloth, no doubt. Gaff tape taped all across the drum on the edge (preferrably with something semi-heavy taped to the drum head underneath) is the only thing that will REALLY get you there, because that was how they used to do it. A wallet could be used back then too, but don't just put it on the snare, open it up and put one side on the edge and one side hanging down, which was the method they used.
@@JakeReedmusic Hell yeah! I am also growing a mustache too. by the way, Jake, your video helped me a lot, i am looking for a kind of 70's sound in a recording i am making with a couple friends, i'm playing guitar and already laid down a clean Strat wah wah guitar track as in 70's recordings and told my drummer to also look for that vintage sound... Thanks for the vid dude. Greetings from Mexico
@@JakeReedmusic Thanks dude. I think my mustache is already some nice kinda Selleck... Using 70's colognes such as Polo Green, Paco Rabanne Pour Homme and stuff, also pretty helpful. Same for flannel shirts. Phosphor bronze strings on Martin acoustics, Eagles records...
"Match your cymbals to the drums?" I LOVE this guy! I thought it was JUST ME!! I use a 24 inch ride on my Bonham kit, lol. You can get about 5 tones out of it. I bought it for "Pensavita."
"why would anyone play with that dead, dry sound, drums are supposed to ring!" Holy shit, are you telling me that's a widespread... Like, THING? Because for the longest time I've wondered why live drums suddenly somewhere (in like... the 90's?) started sounding like they're hollow and played in some fucking warehouse. Every single great act that had hits in the 70's that you see live nowadays have that reverby, "large" sound that to me just sounds so unappealing. Yeah I want the tight dryness, because it feels... Well... *tighter* It feels more intimate, like the drums are heartbeats? They're literally percussion, so shouldn't they have a literally percussive sound? I thought it was just some thing where sound guys got retarded in the 90's or just me being out of touch with what """""OBJECTIVELY"""" sounds good.
I can easily cut this list to TWO ways: 1. COMPLETELY mummify everything in your kit with duct tape. If you have used up ten rolls, you need at least another ten. 2. Got fiber cases? Play and record with them instead. THEY ALREADY SOUND A THOUSAND TIMES BETTER.
He looks like a young Ron Swanson
Felipe Vasquez love it!
My first time here, my very first thought. True.
@@mrmoonpsic LOL
And sounds not unlike Kenny Powers😁
I knew I recognized him lol
Oh wow, a real 70's man with a 70's stach, rocking a 70's drumkit in his 70's
Lol
Fucking KEK
Ron swanson style
50 years ago
Even though “70s drum sounds” are almost cliche, this is exactly what I wanna watch. So good.
merchannel yay! Yeah, it’s kind of funny that we say “70s” anyway since not *everything* from that decade sounds muffled and low but alas everyone knows exactly what you mean by it! What’s the first thing you think of when you hear “80s drum sounds”? Lol!
Jake Reed djoo djoo, djoo djoo, djoo djoo, djoo djoo, djooo djooo “I can feel it cooomin in the air tonight”
@@merchannel7762 And power toms :)
@@JakeReedmusic Gatedschd Reverbschd
@@JakeReedmusic 80s sounds...electronic drums
“You never go full 70’s”
That moustache says otherwise.
haha! touche ...
I’m not a drummer, I’m an engineer. I’ve learned a lot. Thanks
Happy to help!
If you're an engineer and you've never heard of this untill just now then you're not an engineer. You remind me of one of those guys on the job site that claims to be an electrician but never seen someone twist wires before capping with a wire nut. Don't claim to be something you're not. It's pretty disrespectful to the people who worked to become what you're out there claiming.
@@TempoDrift1480 I didn’t intend to hurt your feelings and feelings of community. Now you exposed me and I’ll go kill myself. You’ll continue with all the disrespect I left on you with my initial comment.
@@TempoDrift1480 You sound like an asshole. Putting someone down for wanting to learn something new. And you say they were 'disrespectful'? Get a grip my guy
@@TempoDrift1480 you had a bad day or ..?
Just by seeing the thumbnail I thought "That mustache MUST be one of the three ways".
LOL
the moustache... you forgot the moustache... it absorbs the high frequencies that bounce around, giving the lo-fi effect.
Dangit! Gotta redo the whole thing now.
Any musician who communicates in onomatopaeia, made-up words, and looped gaffes is my kinda musician. Great video, parfuffle.
Yaaaay!!!
That's how you write onomatopoeia in english? weird, i didn't know
Dumbass me searched parfuffle on google thinking it is a real word 💀
All of the tape and muffling has nothing to do with your achievement of great 70's tone. It's quite simply that, that miraculous mustache has magical powers.
LOL
Ohhhhh maaan the tortillas sound so goood
love them.
@@JakeReedmusic where di you buy those cloths
Tortilla. Lol. Waste of fucking money. A fucking tampon would do the same job. I swear, they can market any ol shit and suckers will buy it. It's essentially a fucking rag.
@@alanduncan1980 bro if it’s so easy to do why don’t you do it?
There is nothing like the nostalgia of hearing “that” 70’s snare sound.
yep.
"You never go full 70's" had me dying
LOL thanks!
I always say "Ziggy Stardust". I love the way the drums sound on that.
Same!
Now THAT's dead.
Good example! Had to give it another listen and yeah I hear the muffling clearly!
EDIT: There’s some bizarre panning on that song when listening with AirPods wow. Very separated sounds and really forward sounding. Feels like the band is playing right in front of ya and to the left and right a lot.
I should have said "the rise and fall of ziggy stardust and the spiders from mars" lol. As in the whole album...
How in the fuck am I just finding this man and his wonderful mustache and channel after 14 years of being a musician and 4 years of Berklee... I now have to binge this entire channel LOL
Ha! THANKS DUDE!!!
@Paul Seymour the golden years I’m sure!
The mustache is not wonderful, but the hair on the top of his head is.
Same here, i feel like ive just found a rare hidded gem lol
Like anything I've described. Hell yes.
Andrew Masters woooo!!! Thanks buddy!
"Where is this lawyer you speak of?" --Ron Swanson
I'm gonna put cloths and duck tape over my laptop to achieve that 70's sound on my E-DRUM VST
That’s what I’m talkin’ about!
Tape on my monitor didn't make no difference.
Towel worked, however.
Something especially cool I realized watching this is that this technique would probably be a dream for adding post-production effects. Having such a dry in-studio sound means that you could add reverb to the snare for space or do some wild psyche inspired effects on the whole kit without so much natural resonance making it sound messy or muddy.
exactly!
I swear tuning drums well is harder than playing them well. Having said that, this was a very helpful video. Thanks Jake. I will now continue to drive myself nuts trying to get the sound of method #2.
You’re welcome! AND, you can do it!
I think playing them well is way harder. Good playing can make even bad tuning sound great. Flipped around though great tuning will never make a bad drummer sound good. Once you hit more than 1 acoustic drum it's very hard to make it sound musical instead of just noise. A good drummer can use anything as drums and they'll sound good. No Tuning required.
Use a very cheap drum dial or some sort of tunning device, it is only more difficult if you are tuning to an exact pitch but there are apps for that as well..
@@lucyferina Thanks Lucy :)
That sweet 'stache is pretty appropriate for discussing the 70's
Lol
This is exactly the video I wanted to see 10 years ago when I was trying to figure out why my drums didn't sound like recordings! Amazing video, thank you!
Thanks! Better late than never???
man, that first little groove with the tape and the cloth, you definitely nailed that mick fleetwood sound.
Thanks!
that hair and mustache combo is like a warm inviting hug
Elements from these 70s drum kits, especially regarding the snare is a pretty current sound in indie pop/rock records nowadays I feel.
Bid time!
love this video!
Drum guru/ mad scientist...this is great!
love your videos!
Thanks!
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claudiooo
The best part (and this is ALL really good!) is the advice on sound creating vibe at the end. Once you hear that tone, you have no choice but to be Don Hendley
Thanks! Yes, to me it's all about THE SOUND!
killer stuff man! lots of knowledge in that mustache
Nick Wilkins Music ha! Thanks!
Never understimate the power of a sweet stache!
As a guitarist and by definition deaf through years of Marshall 4x12 therapy, I haven't a clue what you're going on about and couldn't care less but it sounds ace as far as I can tell ;-).
Thanks!
That 60’s kit sounds immaculate
Thanks!
i know this is an engineering vid but I appreciate the clean, clear test grooves you're playing. relaxed strokes, great sound
Thanks! Even though I’m talking about engineering stuff, I’ll always be a drummer first!
Having been there - here's how we did it back in the 80s. Nobody used towels. For the kick, a pillow usually and whatever weight, always with the front head off, tune a bit higher than usual to get that warm bottom end. Snare and toms - Take a piece of black duct tape less than a foot, put on a table sticky side up, fold some toilet paper or kleenex into a shape so it fits within the "rectangle" of the tape (leave plenty of sticky space all around), place it down in the middle of the tape, then take the tape and stick it across near the top edge of the drum head so it looks like a "censored" bar. If that's not enough (the snare and the floor toms especially), put one censored bar near the top and one censored bar near the bottom, like a big equals sign. If that's still not enough, put three so it forms a radioactive warning symbol. For the snare, use a Remo Emperor batter or if you've got the nerve, any 14" clear tom head; big woofy snare. To get a super tight short snare hit, put a bit of scotch tape across the snares. For the toms, put kleenex tapes on both the top and the bottom heads (and tune the bottom a bit higher than the top).
Yep! So many ways to do it!
That floor makes the camera move that’s beefy. 🤘🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
boom.
Sir I love everything about this channel, I came for the Drum Tortillas and stayed for the Gretsch drums 😍
Yay! Thanks!
Love the sound of 70s drums!specially in reggae music,great video,killer stache.
Thanks!
ohhhh! I'm so glad I found someone who's figured it out for me.
Just recently started getting into 70s jams and wanting to replicate a lot of it in my playing.
Thank you good sir for taking the time to find that sound.
Yaaaay! Thanks! Happy to help!
Next level mustache game.
I'm a guitarist and have no idea why I'm watching this.
(Edit) I've just realised its analogous to finding the perfect level of slap back.
Boom.
The point is that it's finding sweet spots, for literally everything. That's the magic. Or at least that's my perception of the magic. Great video Mr. Reed. You have a gift for this stuff.
Thank you! Yes, find the sweet spots!
It's totally awsome. I like the dry humour as much as the dry drums😂
I've never payed attention to 70's music and I'm not a drummer, but this video was really helpful!
yay! Happy to help!
easily one of the best drum videos on youtube ive ever watched. very simple and not getting to bogged down in the details, just messing about and finding something that sounds good. also love to see the ND868 get some much deserved love
Thanks dude! Simpler is usually better, right?!
this needs more views - this was great
Thanks!
one additional thing I do (because I do go full 70s).. i stick mics up inside my concert toms..
What kind of drum mics fo you prefer? I’m about to get a a few
@@djfglobal3377 audio technica atm230s
Did all that back then in 70's studio's. I did use the 'Tent' or 'Tunnel' method on kick without any reso head.
Nice! Love the kick tunnel move!
I love those 70s sounds!!!
Yaaaaaay!!!
That kick sound is wonderful!
Thanks!
never heard of your channel before.. im 8 seconds into the first video and your mustache earned you a sub.. impeccable
Yaaaaay!!! My mustache thanks you.
I was a proponent of maxi pad strips slightly bunched without too much tightness against the snares seperated into groups of 3 staggarer. The a3 applied dampers on snare top head around periphery would leave a gap about 10:00 with the hats Sony comdense's azimuth betwixt the snare so as to catch the air compression upon hat close. The comdensor wae alligned perpindicular to also catch some of the crack attack from the snare. Snare pairs of 57s also could get that block of wood "memphis sound" by manipulating upper head and off sef (dampened placement near the lower rim wired slightly out of phase.
sick
Dude. Love your tone and video editing. Also sick Ron Swanson look! 😅
Haha! Thanks!
Thanks so much for this! My hubby got me a Mapex Venus kit for our 10yr Anniversary and I have not been able to find anyone that would just plain say/show how to lower the tones aside from saying get new heads or a new set. Taught me so much more in less than 15 minutes than the last 8 months have.
Happy to help! Those are great drums!
These videos are so MONEY, JR! And those tones? So buttery.
Matt Forbes thanks, Matt! You and I have very similar aesthetics haha
You genius. Where were you all my life.
Hey, these sounds are pure gold. If you'd offered a sampled set of your drums for Kontakt, I'd buy it in an instant.
one day!
I applied some similar techniques to a First Act little kid's kit a few years ago just for kicks and giggles and it low key sounds fire. I use it all the time, especially the snare. Obviously not as high quality as anything an actually decent kit could put out, but just goes to show how much of a difference a little muting and dialing in can do.
Amazing!
This is probably one of the best videos I've seen covering the topic of changing or altering drum sounds. I'm sure there's plenty of videos covering this topic in a variety of ways. But as a non-drummer, this is more of an overall sound designing perspective that's actually very informative and friendly to the approach of editing your drums' sounds.
For other videos I've seen covering the topic, many drummers slap the cloth covers on top and call it a day. But I appreciate the in-depth sound design showing the most minuscule changes to the weight on the drums changing the sounds drastically. Overall awesome beefy drum tones that definitely are inspiring, thank you for sharing your soundscaping techniques! It'd be awesome to get a sample pack of some of these drum sounds! Lol 🤙🥁
Thanks! I really appreciate the detailed response! I'll probably make a sample pack someday.
This is the most helpful drum video I've ever seen
Yaaaay!!! Happy to help!
These videos are gold! I’m lovin’ them!
Jake can you pleease do a video showing how you tune drums? I’m a beginning drummer and you seem to be able to wrangle any tone you want from your drums 😅
Watched it ages ago and loved it. It popped up a few times the last days so I became curious and clicked it again. And yeah, now it goes viral. That's good.
Thanks dude! I appreciate the “re-run”!
amazingly great. you should make a sample library of mutli-layered one shot. Could be the end of my quest for "dead" drum sample library.
Very good job bro !
holysh* just saw you made one 🔥🔥🔥
Thanks! I made a sample pack of the second kit in this vid called SUPER DEAD DRUMS. Link in description.
@@JakeReedmusic Bought it immediatly. Made a track in the afternoon. So inspiring. Dope work mate !
@@RandSht So rad! Glad you're enjoying it! Thanks!
Completely and absolutely hyper badass. I'll be using this. Thank you!
Thank you!
sounds great, u have a sweet 70's tash, too, i wanna hear how to sound like john Bonham, i don't know why i don't even play drums, but Bonhams sound was killer imo
Thanks! Here's how I attempt to achieve an inkling of Bonham in my tiny studio: th-cam.com/video/An3At-saakI/w-d-xo.html
Bonham sound was achieved by recording in a very big very reverb prone room (a stone castle) of course now a days you can just get a reverb prone space, and add more reverb post recording. unless you have a church or a space with that reverb it will be hard to achieve without using effects...
@@lucyferina I don't have a stairwell!
@@JakeReedmusic I got a fever, and the only prescription is more stairwell!
@@lucyferina and the key to bonham sound was bonham
Anybody: Drums are supposed to ring.
Me: You're dead to me.
Those tones, are pretty dead on. It has a great vibe.
Matthew Parsons thanks!
Excellent video. I think most of us drummers have practiced with big ear muff style target shooting hearing protection (Vic Firth and other companies manufactured them with headphone speaker elements to practice along with a click or song). I used those as like the template sound for pre-1980's tones, i.e. I'd try to make the drums sound like they would with the hearing protection on: thuddy but not obnoxiously ringy, etc.
The Ringo/Glyn Johns tea towel method works of course, but the immediate clicky sound of drumstick bead to drum head is totally gone. The method our brother here showed with the ⅛th of the drum, at the edge covered with moongels, tape, etc works really well.
I don't do it much because it's such a pain in the ass but I used to take felt strips and put them behind the drumhead, held down with the pressure of the rims pinching the bearing edges. Some bass drums had that muffling system on the front head but I'd do it on the batter heads of the tom's and kick. That technique sounds very cool but unless you have multiple kits (like our brother here with some straight BADASS kits), you're stuck with it unless you want to rehead your drums all the time.
Great stuff! Just found this channel. I'm gonna try me some great British tea towels on my Beverley kit. I'm sort of excited. Ringo!
Thanks! Have fun!
man, you have an incredible look
edit: just subbed and looked at your upload schedule and dude, please upload some more vids because the algorithm is blessing you
Thanks! Eventually, I’ll get around to uploading some more vids. I’m a new dad at the moment, so that’s taking up a lot of my time right now. Hopefully soon though!
@@JakeReedmusic Drummer and father of three here.
Enjoy your time when it‘s young, flying by too fast.
And thanks for this excellent video!
@@Frank1979Zappa Thanks!
This is one of the best videos on engineering drums I’ve ever seen. The second kit sounded incredible.0
Thanks!
Great video. I love the '70s sound. I was recently listening to Michael Jackson's Earth Song and I desperately want Jonathan Moffett's snare sound. How???
I think Moffett was strictly MJ's live drummer... I think Steve Ferrone is on the record.
Just received a copy of, “It’s Gotta Swing”, by Jim Nunn. Have been listing to Blue Wisp Big Band tunes. I am so thankful I got to hear VO play while I was in Cincy. Got to hang with him too. Take care my friend.
Love VO! That’s a great book, too!
Doing a drum session soon where I was looking for this exact type of sound, recognized you from an Andrew Masters video and laughed my ass off the entire time. Thanks for the great video, subscribed!
YEEEEESSSS!!! Thanks dude!
Dude you are the Zach galifianakis of drums!! I love it!!
dog I am losing it over that beat 8:52 so sinister
Thanks dude!
Absolutely love that Yellow Gretsch kit. I saw a picture of Dennis Wilson playing that same kit watching something about Hal Blaine. Very cool
Right on man.. Rocking the 70s porno 'stache while learning everybody the secrets of that smooth super sexy swingin sound of the 70s.... Great content.
Boom. Thanks!
I clicked on the video and liked instantly purely bc the way you look and your intro. Outstanding stuff, please continue.
Yay!!! Thanks!
@@JakeReedmusic no problem my good man. Stay groovy.
I like his Ron Swanson look, I wonder if I can pull it off 🤔 ... Songs for the deaf has pretty dead drums, Eric Valentine tracked cymbals after the drums
Ha! Thanks! It’s fun recording the cyms and drums separately. You can really get the drums sounding huge without the cymbals taking over on big rock stuff. Or, if you want super dry sounding drums, remove the cyms from the room completely and then overdub them later. Fun stuff!
Man, those are killer sounding drums. Love it!
Thanks!
...and then Stewart Copeland arrived, and we all found our drum keys.
Lol yep!
Lmao
Yeah. That sounds ridiculas. I temporarily live in Nebraska where everyone "tunes" their drums like that and wonders why they can't get more than 3 relatives at a show. Well, that's why. Ya'll don't know how to tune your shit.
Copeland couldn’t carry Tony Williams’ cymbal case 😎🙏
@@loveisthelaw20042004 although i don't quite agree with you - i think Copeland is a fine drummer - Tony Williams is my favourite drummer. The '64 concert! That hi-hat! Nonetheless, Copeland has touch and feel in his genre(s)
The rolled up tape method is really great!! It solves the issue of that buzzing that can happen when you lay the tape flat and it inevitably starts to peel up a bit.
Big time! I also think there's something about the rolled up tapes that creates more weight in one spot on the drum, so it deadens it more right there instead of a piece the same size laid out flat. Just a theory though ... I could be completely full of it lol!
1:52 I got a little Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers Here comes my girl vibe
I thought the same
Love it! Stan Lynch!
now this, is the channel i’ve been needing...thank the heavens
(angels singing) "aaaaaaahhhhh"
Great video! Instant subscription.
Question: do you find the "70s" muffled sound decreasing overall volume or projection? I've always assumed that muffling to this extent wouldn't work in live situations without mics, but now I'm not so certain that is always the case. And have you applied tape under a cymbal? I seem to always have to "tune" rides with tape to compress and control overtones that I don't like.
Thanks! Basically, my take on muffling is that it really works well with close mic’ing. If there’s only overhead mics or no mics, I will do very little muffling or none at all. A lot of the overtones will get absorbed by the other instruments, and a lot of it depends on what the other instruments are, the sonic density of the music, and how loud everyone is playing. Same thing with cymbals! But, also, I’m on a never ending quest to find THE cymbal haha.
Hands down,the best drum sound
Thanks dude!
why youtube didnt recommend me this before!?
gotta keep feeding the algorithm, dude!
@@JakeReedmusic I'm gonna be usin' just some shammies. .
@@swim_ad DO IIIIIIIIIIIIT!!!
My fav era of music. Well done Jake!
Bergatron Music thanks! Same!
Good tutorial. Do you prefer not to use Moon Gel? Or did you choose not to use it because there was no such thing as Moon Gel in the 70's?
Michael Jones thanks! Good question ... I used to have moon gel but it just wasn’t for me. It either melted from being in my cymbal bag in the hot car, got so dirty it wouldn’t stick even after washing it with soap and water, or stained the drumheads. I’ve tried drum dots too! They all sort of work but I keep coming back to ol’ faithful gaff tape.
The easy answer is that moon gel doesn't sound right when trying to achieve this sound. Neither does the Big Fat Snare Drum products. The way he does it on the first kit was the most common method, whitout the cloth though, but definitely sounds great with the cloth, no doubt. Gaff tape taped all across the drum on the edge (preferrably with something semi-heavy taped to the drum head underneath) is the only thing that will REALLY get you there, because that was how they used to do it. A wallet could be used back then too, but don't just put it on the snare, open it up and put one side on the edge and one side hanging down, which was the method they used.
Really Cool Stuff!!! Thanks for the great Tipps!!!💯❤🔥
You’re welcome!
the spinal tap reference on rack tom... im dead
LOL ... glad someone finally caught that!
What a great sound! Very educational video thanks so much for making it.
Thanks so much! Glad you got something out of it!
The mustache also helps to get the full 70's vibe
It certainly doesn’t hurt!
@@JakeReedmusic Hell yeah! I am also growing a mustache too. by the way, Jake, your video helped me a lot, i am looking for a kind of 70's sound in a recording i am making with a couple friends, i'm playing guitar and already laid down a clean Strat wah wah guitar track as in 70's recordings and told my drummer to also look for that vintage sound... Thanks for the vid dude. Greetings from Mexico
@@javierdiazsantana Sweet dude! Thank you for the kind words and best of luck recording!
@@JakeReedmusic Thanks dude. I think my mustache is already some nice kinda Selleck... Using 70's colognes such as Polo Green, Paco Rabanne Pour Homme and stuff, also pretty helpful. Same for flannel shirts. Phosphor bronze strings on Martin acoustics, Eagles records...
"Match your cymbals to the drums?"
I LOVE this guy! I thought it was JUST ME!!
I use a 24 inch ride on my Bonham kit, lol. You can get about 5 tones out of it.
I bought it for "Pensavita."
Thanks!
Liked for the drum sound, subbed for the mustache.
Yay!!!
its all about finding the balance.
love this
🙌🙌🙌
I like my snare with a lot of overtones and my toms the most dampened they can be
Nice
Loooove the video! And can’t agree more with you. Those drum sounds calls for groove and minimalist fills.
Cheers from Switzerland 🇨🇭
Thank you!!!
"why would anyone play with that dead, dry sound, drums are supposed to ring!"
Holy shit, are you telling me that's a widespread... Like, THING? Because for the longest time I've wondered why live drums suddenly somewhere (in like... the 90's?) started sounding like they're hollow and played in some fucking warehouse. Every single great act that had hits in the 70's that you see live nowadays have that reverby, "large" sound that to me just sounds so unappealing. Yeah I want the tight dryness, because it feels... Well... *tighter* It feels more intimate, like the drums are heartbeats? They're literally percussion, so shouldn't they have a literally percussive sound? I thought it was just some thing where sound guys got retarded in the 90's or just me being out of touch with what """""OBJECTIVELY"""" sounds good.
I love this rant.
@@JakeReedmusic ADHD + sleep deprivation + isolation + coffee is what it is.
impressive ! thanks !! cheers from berlin
Great video! 😂 never go full 70’s
Thanks dude! It's true ... I'd say no more than like 80% plus or minus 2% 70s.
Secrets revealed, outstanding! Thanks for sharing this.
Subbed for the "luuuuhl"
😂 yaaaaaay!!!
nice video.., I try to record some 70 sound style tomorrow.., thx for your inspiration.., hugs Mario
YAY!!! Thanks! Have fun!
I can easily cut this list to TWO ways: 1. COMPLETELY mummify everything in your kit with duct tape. If you have used up ten rolls, you need at least another ten. 2. Got fiber cases? Play and record with them instead. THEY ALREADY SOUND A THOUSAND TIMES BETTER.
IT'S JUST A SOUND FOR CRYING OUT LOUD! LOL