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Pretty much like when you're done on the mixing stage of your song, export it as multitrack stems so that you can use it both for stereo mastering and atmos mixing without losing or missing stem (just make sure you double-check before you proceed).
Excellent video! Although AI demixing is becoming more and more precise every month, I can see why Apple does not allow it. And, yes, the unedited raw multitracks are the biggest challenge for an Atmos mixer, so BRING IT ON!!!
Demixing sometimes is the only choice but ONLY if you want to bring old recordings to the Atmos format where the original recordings have been lost or damaged. But the labels that own these recordings have to sort that out with the DSPs. Thanks for watching!
You recent short on recording in Atmos as opposed to just the mixing process... Help me out here as I'm a listener not an engineer; Isn't Atmos is just the addition of 2,4 or 6 ceiling speakers, similar to adding rear and/or side speakers to a stereo system, calling it 5.1 or 7.1 and creating a surround sound mix? Why the spatial name 'Atmos' for 2 added speakers, isn't it more or less just an extension of surround sound mixing? And where are the 7.1 surround sound mixes of all our favorites?
I have a few other videos on the channel with some info on this if you snoop around but really fast, Atmos is NOT just additional height channels. It is a brilliant adaptive tech--based on a multitude of "objects" in a 360 space--that decodes in real time based on your device/listening preference, if that makes sense. In a 5.1 or 7.1 mix if you don't have one or more of those speakers installed you completely lose what was going to that speaker. In Atmos you do not. It does its thing and serves you a version that works with what you have! In a 360 3D space (Surround is only that: surround, one level, ear level). Hope this helped and thanks for watching!
What do you call streaming a 5.1.2 mix to your phone, a scam? Then there's Tom Petty's 'Damn The Torpedoes' [Blu-ray Audio] that IS NOT in Atmos, it's (320k MP3, 24/96 FLAC, or Apple Lossless) for $149, another scam?
@@john-y128 there is a huge difference in listening on a phone speakers and on headphone/Speakers.. most of the creative pannings processing you wont hear everything on a phone speakers.. yoy gotta have a proper medium to listen to the art... thats what my point was.. idk where you going with your pov..
Goes with the territory!!! Hahaha!!! Imagine all these engineers doing all that work in the 60s, 70s, 80s, so people could listen on AM & FM radio or a Walkman! Thanks for watching!
@@thelivingroomstudios am i wrong on this ?? Or i didn't clearly communicated what i meant ??.. As far as i know... when engineers put all the efforts to mix and master.. it should be listen to on a good headphones or speakers.. maybe in Cars or whatever.. no matter on which medium you listen to, it should be clear.. but my point was, you wont enjoy music on a phone speakers but on headphones and speakers.. Coz panning and creative work people wont notice on a phone speakers.. especially that dolby atoms work.. Low end that thump and quality... i hope you get my Pov....
@@NELSON_DIAS of course the experience is different on speakers (the best, for me) and headphones. Though you'd be surprised with some mobile devices that have little speakers all over and software that mimics a 360 experience. If your master file has that built-in (meaning is an Atmos mix) it is set to provide that different experience (no matter the playback device or the level or "quality" of the experience, which is something very subjective).
The problem is you are creating a product that has no consumer. As a consumer I have had enough of this you need more and more speakers. Don't drink the apple juice people. We don't get great stereo and Atmos is trying to push this onto us? It in the end is going to be just like the video. Pushing curved screens which is a terrible tech... all but thankfully gone.... 3d the be all and end all.... gone. Atmos will land in the dumpster also. Free yourself from big brother apple and the terrible destruction of music. Consumers don't need more and more speakers but less and higher quality. Case in point a well setup stereo speaker playing an amazing mixed song "Love you like a ball and chain". The sound will go around you in 360 then back to the front. Stereo can do this when appropriate. Atmos great for movies... total dumpster fire junk for music...
@@SuperAgentAB yes, if you have a dedicated atmos listening room. The absolute majority of people listen to their phone speaker, followed by earbuds and then laptop speakers. So far everything I have heard in binaural is crap.
@@SuperAgentAB Yeah but it just an addition of 2,4 or 6 speaker to you surround sound system, the word 'Atmos' is marketing BS. What is the difference between 7.1.4 and 11.1 systems, absolutely nothing. Soon Dolby will be mounting speakers in the floor and calling it 'Dtmos'.
@@john-y128 No, you get 11 base level but sacrificing 4 height speakers. There's a lot of speaker configurations depending on what they have and it's their preference. Also the third number represents height channels so sounds coming from above.
Atmos is great for movies, end of story. Even the film title song in a cinema only gets the front two stereo speakers. Absolutely no one, apart from the few very rich, will have a atmos listening room. I know some people are trying the hard sell on it but it will not happen for the vast majority of music consumers.
Have you heard Atmos for Music? Regardless, and besides headphones where binaural is a better experience than stereo anyway, smart speakers, soundbars, phones, laptops, tablets, cars (soon in more affordable ones, exactly like the 8-tracks, cassettes, CDs, etc. where they started at the top of the line and then trickled down to every single car!!!), home systems, etc. etc. Hardly a game for the rich . . .
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You and I are really on the same page with this technology!
Pretty much like when you're done on the mixing stage of your song, export it as multitrack stems so that you can use it both for stereo mastering and atmos mixing without losing or missing stem (just make sure you double-check before you proceed).
Thanks for watching!!
Excellent video! Although AI demixing is becoming more and more precise every month, I can see why Apple does not allow it. And, yes, the unedited raw multitracks are the biggest challenge for an Atmos mixer, so BRING IT ON!!!
Demixing sometimes is the only choice but ONLY if you want to bring old recordings to the Atmos format where the original recordings have been lost or damaged. But the labels that own these recordings have to sort that out with the DSPs. Thanks for watching!
You recent short on recording in Atmos as opposed to just the mixing process... Help me out here as I'm a listener not an engineer; Isn't Atmos is just the addition of 2,4 or 6 ceiling speakers, similar to adding rear and/or side speakers to a stereo system, calling it 5.1 or 7.1 and creating a surround sound mix? Why the spatial name 'Atmos' for 2 added speakers, isn't it more or less just an extension of surround sound mixing? And where are the 7.1 surround sound mixes of all our favorites?
I have a few other videos on the channel with some info on this if you snoop around but really fast, Atmos is NOT just additional height channels. It is a brilliant adaptive tech--based on a multitude of "objects" in a 360 space--that decodes in real time based on your device/listening preference, if that makes sense. In a 5.1 or 7.1 mix if you don't have one or more of those speakers installed you completely lose what was going to that speaker. In Atmos you do not. It does its thing and serves you a version that works with what you have! In a 360 3D space (Surround is only that: surround, one level, ear level). Hope this helped and thanks for watching!
Imagin doing all that work just so people would listen to it on a phone speaker... 🤡
What do you call streaming a 5.1.2 mix to your phone, a scam?
Then there's Tom Petty's 'Damn The Torpedoes' [Blu-ray Audio] that IS NOT in Atmos, it's (320k MP3, 24/96 FLAC, or Apple Lossless) for $149, another scam?
@@john-y128 there is a huge difference in listening on a phone speakers and on headphone/Speakers.. most of the creative pannings processing you wont hear everything on a phone speakers.. yoy gotta have a proper medium to listen to the art... thats what my point was.. idk where you going with your pov..
Goes with the territory!!! Hahaha!!! Imagine all these engineers doing all that work in the 60s, 70s, 80s, so people could listen on AM & FM radio or a Walkman! Thanks for watching!
@@thelivingroomstudios am i wrong on this ?? Or i didn't clearly communicated what i meant ??..
As far as i know... when engineers put all the efforts to mix and master.. it should be listen to on a good headphones or speakers.. maybe in Cars or whatever.. no matter on which medium you listen to, it should be clear.. but my point was, you wont enjoy music on a phone speakers but on headphones and speakers..
Coz panning and creative work people wont notice on a phone speakers.. especially that dolby atoms work..
Low end that thump and quality... i hope you get my Pov....
@@NELSON_DIAS of course the experience is different on speakers (the best, for me) and headphones. Though you'd be surprised with some mobile devices that have little speakers all over and software that mimics a 360 experience. If your master file has that built-in (meaning is an Atmos mix) it is set to provide that different experience (no matter the playback device or the level or "quality" of the experience, which is something very subjective).
The problem is you are creating a product that has no consumer. As a consumer I have had enough of this you need more and more speakers. Don't drink the apple juice people. We don't get great stereo and Atmos is trying to push this onto us? It in the end is going to be just like the video. Pushing curved screens which is a terrible tech... all but thankfully gone.... 3d the be all and end all.... gone. Atmos will land in the dumpster also. Free yourself from big brother apple and the terrible destruction of music. Consumers don't need more and more speakers but less and higher quality. Case in point a well setup stereo speaker playing an amazing mixed song "Love you like a ball and chain". The sound will go around you in 360 then back to the front. Stereo can do this when appropriate. Atmos great for movies... total dumpster fire junk for music...
"Atmos great for movies"
How many people had the same mindset about Atmos? It's 2024 not 2012 when Atmos came out. Music can be immersive as well.
@@SuperAgentAB yes, if you have a dedicated atmos listening room. The absolute majority of people listen to their phone speaker, followed by earbuds and then laptop speakers. So far everything I have heard in binaural is crap.
@@SuperAgentAB Yeah but it just an addition of 2,4 or 6 speaker to you surround sound system, the word 'Atmos' is marketing BS.
What is the difference between 7.1.4 and 11.1 systems, absolutely nothing. Soon Dolby will be mounting speakers in the floor and calling it 'Dtmos'.
@@john-y128 No, you get 11 base level but sacrificing 4 height speakers. There's a lot of speaker configurations depending on what they have and it's their preference.
Also the third number represents height channels so sounds coming from above.
Atmos is great for movies, end of story. Even the film title song in a cinema only gets the front two stereo speakers. Absolutely no one, apart from the few very rich, will have a atmos listening room. I know some people are trying the hard sell on it but it will not happen for the vast majority of music consumers.
Have you heard Atmos for Music? Regardless, and besides headphones where binaural is a better experience than stereo anyway, smart speakers, soundbars, phones, laptops, tablets, cars (soon in more affordable ones, exactly like the 8-tracks, cassettes, CDs, etc. where they started at the top of the line and then trickled down to every single car!!!), home systems, etc. etc. Hardly a game for the rich . . .