Mixing music for Atmos brings a new level of depth and dimension to your tracks. What are your thoughts on Atmos and other immersive audio formats for music? Let us know in the comments, and check out more videos on Atmos here 👉 th-cam.com/users/sweetwatersearch?query=atmos
I love how Mitch really tries to ask relevant questions and encourage whoever he’s interviewing to speak freely, when he actually knows so much more than most, and explains everything better haha
He's a wonderful persona, for sure. Sometimes I'll watch him present a product I don't even need, just 'cause he's comforting to watch and listen to lol
BEST Getting started Explanation online!! Thank you!! Haven't found a video yet showing something as simple as starting the session until this one. Thanks!!
I used to be a 5.1 fan but Dolby Atmos has changed everything for the good. I hope they re mix all the old good stuff but its easy to do yourself using a stem-splitting program like RipX to split the instruments and voices etc and then remix it all. All you need then is software like Studio One to remix and save into surround wavs or flacs.
I’m involved in the live sound & corporate AV industry. From conferences to party, entertainment or even weddings… What do you guys have in mind for DJs & background music playback? I don’t see any gear that can output atmos in xlr and we’ll do all the processing with our live mixer PA set up… all the atmos gear is overpriced because it has components we don’t need, like EQ, amps, analyzers and processing that we already have at our venues…
Good grief, Avid has turned Pro Tools into the biggest money sinkhole in the recording industry! I sincerely hope that beginners don’t buy a Pro Tools license until it is absolutely necessary for career advancement.
hahaha, we all know Avid is all about money, but you can have Atmos basically for free with Logic Pro & i’m pretty sure more daws are (or going to) compatible with the renderer
I’m currently about to get back into mixing and doing so with a accompanying TH-cam channel of my journey… that being the selling point, the re learning and learning and all the obstacles in business. This will be a couple years until I’m a full operational studio, so thinking I could make it completely new and go Atmos and make it all about Atmos, learning from the ground up knowing what is knew and seeing what is still relevant and what is no longer relevant in the mixing method. Because it’s so new, it’ll be easier to not be drowned out as much
Nice demo but, they should have sent a binaural feed to their video recorder to give us some sense of surround panning during this demo. It sounded like a single mic monaural version of the studio monitors.
I've watch so many video for setting up Dolby Atmos but this was the best so far giving me all the first timer correct information. The only issue I cant seem to solve is the LTC connecting with renderer time code. Even after watching your video and following every action I still can't get it to activate. I guess Dolby support my next plan of action. I'm in your files as a long time purchaser.
Keeping up with technology is a continual challenge. Seems to me this is an affordable way of 'getting my feet wet' to enter the Dolby Atmos mixing world. Not sure I can ignore all this, but what happens to our stereo plugins and stereo outboard gear? I noticed Dolby Atmos plugins used in this video. I watched a video where CLA's studio moved to Dolby Atmos mixing, and it was more than impressive. If I remember correctly, he had NINE subwoofers! Decisions, decisions ... 🤔
I only use Cubase Elements, and don't want to upgrade to Pro, just for using this Dolby Renderer. I wish there was a way to get the renderer to work in any version of Cubase. No such luck yet.
Please note that the Production suite is only available with MacOS only which is the catch. The only real alternative is Steinberg Nuendo if you are on Windows. Nuendo has the render baked into the software no extra hardware needed. Other DAWs requires the Mastering Suite and a serrate computer as the render typically a certified Dell Rack mount server/workstation, a MADI interface or a Dante interface that will interface with the render machine which is not cheap!
@ 10:47 I thought that the whole process is simple, streamlined, easy to understand and enjoyable... and if APPLE said it was the future - good luck to Apple and everyone else following it - enjoy the ride!!! NO disrespect to Sweatwater - thank you for trying to explain what it is all about!!!
Lol, nonsense. 😂 The very idea of atmos requires more than 2 speakers. The only thing you will ever get out of headphones is stereo (left and right speakers). This is all just marketing nonsense... Atmos makes no sense for music.
If this will become the standard, this is the end for amateur engineers, Apple is about to only let enter in playlists the music mixed in Atmos, if it was hard to make it, now it's impossible
How do you set up the mastering suite with pro tools on a different mac? Is the interface connected to the mac with the renderer? Or the one with pro tools? If its in the renderer mac, then how does pro tools connect to the “Dolby audio bridge “?
The question is: if I mix my movie´s sound in atmos, do I have to pay a license to be able to play it in theaters or Netflix using the atmos decoders ?
Something I have not seen yet, do you mix in atmos and then master in Atmos using the same speaker setup and DAW settings? Or would you master the atmos mix as a typical stereo track? Seems not likely but would be good to know before I jump into trying atmos. Great vid again Mitch
There isn’t really a “mastering” phase with Atmos, it’s just finished at the delivery point. You might want to have a second engineer cross-check your work, but really that’s what a mastering engineer should be doing in stereo mixes
@@adamsteelproducer so I imagine you’re bringing the mix volume up to industry standard levels in mixing only? Whatever LUFS level you are seeking? Thanks for responding, super appreciate it!
Great question. At this time there’s not really a espérate mastering process for an Atmos mix. In practice, I use the phantom bus technique by Lursen to employ mastering on my Atmos mixes.
@@adamsteelproducer I'm not sure if I'm right, but it seems to me like, if you use the traditional concept of "mastering=making it sound good on any end playback system", that the whole Atmos thing shifts the "mastering" to the Atmos decoder in the Atmos compatible device that's playing it back. All the track data gets delivered to the decoder, which knows what speakers/amps it is connected to. The decoder interprets the incoming data to be best played back for the integrated amps and speakers. Each Atmos capable playback device is "smart" and real-time masters for its own specs. The mixer can focus on mixing it for a cool immersive experience and leave all the playback devices to figure out thier own mastering. You don't ever see piecemeal or modular Atmos playback rigs for this reason. Each one has to be pre-packaged and pre-configured as a system to interpret the Atmos data streams for a very specific set of amps and speakers (in specific positions). Most Atmos systems with separate pieces (speakers that can be placed wherever) have some sort of calibration setup step needed once the speakers are placed so it knows how/when to deliver the correct audio to the correct speakers.
I spent a few hours mixing levels in atmos through this procedure last week in binaural. I can attest to the fact that it simply does NOT translate to headphones. This is NOT realistic for anyone who does not have a tuned room with the ACTUAL speakers. Good luck to everyone. As for me, I am perfectly fine not being "Playlisted" for the foreseeable future.
Thank you for your prayer. You do mean that God's love is spatial don't you? Or can we get it using headsets? Please tell us how the love of God can help us with Headsets.
I would love to use this for a live setting (I know Dolby Atmos for live use lol). Live events include large football stadiums and I’m trying to get the sound effects to be triggered by a performer but have it sound like the sound is coming from all around the audience. Would this software help with achieving this effect? (Performer triggers SFX, computer plays SFX, sends audio to sound board, sound board sends audio to speakers.)
Reaper works better in many ways with ATMOS, and it allows you to have up to 64 channels per track, so you don’t get stuck with the ProTools 7.0.2 track limitation work-arounds.
Sweetwater, why are you advertising ProTools so much? (more profit for you than selling other DAWs?) Steinberg Nuendo is superior especially for Atmos mixing. Regards, a Sweetwater customer and Nuendo user (bought it from you).
This is going to be hilariously outdated sooner than later. Until then, I feel like I need to upgrade all my guitar pedals so they are atmos enabled. Also…. Mitch for President
Great content except there should have been an introduction video prior to this one called; "Getting started with tech companies trying to make money which pretty much has nothing do with music"
Life sure is getting crazy. We thought we welcomed stereo, now we seem to want infinite 3D surround. A true example of computers replacing people, because they don't fight back. Unfortunately for us, neither do the give birth, grow food, give love, nor die. AntiGod is in the house.
How to get back at the rappers and minorities in the industry. Don’t list them unless they go Atmos, way to go so expensive. Will get cracked and what for.
Can you guys please stop trying to impress us with how many speakers your using and the price, manufacture, feelings,room position and nonsense. What’s the signal path? what are the speakers plugged into? What interface supports the speaker set up? What’s the connectivity usb, coaxial, traditional wire, wireless, are the speakers in the console what mixing console are we using? Give us some real information and stop Spec Flexing Thank You. Because at the end of the day, what I do know is with LogicX I don’t need any of those speakers. All of the work is done in box I can throw on some Apple AirPod pros and get the same effect
Sweetwater customer service is very bad but when you are buying something they are nice. Once you make the purchase you quickly find out they have slow service with clueless employees. Also the candy they send with each item is old Halloween trash.
Mixing music for Atmos brings a new level of depth and dimension to your tracks. What are your thoughts on Atmos and other immersive audio formats for music? Let us know in the comments, and check out more videos on Atmos here 👉 th-cam.com/users/sweetwatersearch?query=atmos
Purchased my MTRX Studio and LEA (Dante) Amps from SW. IM LOVING MY ATMOS STUDIO.
I love how Mitch really tries to ask relevant questions and encourage whoever he’s interviewing to speak freely, when he actually knows so much more than most, and explains everything better haha
He's a wonderful persona, for sure. Sometimes I'll watch him present a product I don't even need, just 'cause he's comforting to watch and listen to lol
Yep, WolfMan Jack reborn
@@danymalsound To bad people listen to Mitch.Atmos is being forced on us.Wake UP.
Don't like this comment! It has a holy number of likes
@@Casual_Henrylemme guess... 69?
I’m all about David Snow!! My sales engineer for 15 YEARS!!! Best dude ever.
Mitch G is a very good host and Sweetwater is one of the most complete pro audio store
BEST Getting started Explanation online!! Thank you!! Haven't found a video yet showing something as simple as starting the session until this one. Thanks!!
Great thank you! Unforunately the audio recorded for the video is all mono...so no any changing to appreciate the Atmos tech.
I used to be a 5.1 fan but Dolby Atmos has changed everything for the good. I hope they re mix all the old good stuff but its easy to do yourself using a stem-splitting program like RipX to split the instruments and voices etc and then remix it all. All you need then is software like Studio One to remix and save into surround wavs or flacs.
I’m involved in the live sound & corporate AV industry. From conferences to party, entertainment or even weddings…
What do you guys have in mind for DJs & background music playback? I don’t see any gear that can output atmos in xlr and we’ll do all the processing with our live mixer PA set up… all the atmos gear is overpriced because it has components we don’t need, like EQ, amps, analyzers and processing that we already have at our venues…
On the Mac, when it asks for Mic access, that's asking for access to any audio in and out of the computer, which is why it's asking for that access.
Don't know how I've missed this but thank you all for this video...
Good grief, Avid has turned Pro Tools into the biggest money sinkhole in the recording industry! I sincerely hope that beginners don’t buy a Pro Tools license until it is absolutely necessary for career advancement.
lol
everything went down when they switched to the subscription model instead of licenses
hahaha, we all know Avid is all about money, but you can have Atmos basically for free with Logic Pro & i’m pretty sure more daws are (or going to) compatible with the renderer
@@soydavidvidal I’m totally with you. I’m a Logic Pro user (primarily).
When was this not the case???
I’m currently about to get back into mixing and doing so with a accompanying TH-cam channel of my journey… that being the selling point, the re learning and learning and all the obstacles in business.
This will be a couple years until I’m a full operational studio, so thinking I could make it completely new and go Atmos and make it all about Atmos, learning from the ground up knowing what is knew and seeing what is still relevant and what is no longer relevant in the mixing method.
Because it’s so new, it’ll be easier to not be drowned out as much
What’s your TH-cam channel for yo production?
Nice demo but, they should have sent a binaural feed to their video recorder to give us some sense of surround panning during this demo. It sounded like a single mic monaural version of the studio monitors.
I've watch so many video for setting up Dolby Atmos but this was the best so far giving me all the first timer correct information. The only issue I cant seem to solve is the LTC connecting with renderer time code. Even after watching your video and following every action I still can't get it to activate. I guess Dolby support my next plan of action. I'm in your files as a long time purchaser.
Keeping up with technology is a continual challenge. Seems to me this is an affordable way of 'getting my feet wet' to enter the Dolby Atmos mixing world. Not sure I can ignore all this, but what happens to our stereo plugins and stereo outboard gear? I noticed Dolby Atmos plugins used in this video. I watched a video where CLA's studio moved to Dolby Atmos mixing, and it was more than impressive. If I remember correctly, he had NINE subwoofers! Decisions, decisions ... 🤔
Atmos in Logic Pro definitely puts a strain on the CPU, but it was nice to get it as a free Logic Pro upgrade.
I only use Cubase Elements, and don't want to upgrade to Pro, just for using this Dolby Renderer. I wish there was a way to get the renderer to work in any version of Cubase. No such luck yet.
Please follow this up with a video on how to create the .ADM Atmos deliverables with the renderer!
Can we use two audio interface to make up 12 outputs,,,,for atmos???
Please note that the Production suite is only available with MacOS only which is the catch. The only real alternative is Steinberg Nuendo if you are on Windows. Nuendo has the render baked into the software no extra hardware needed. Other DAWs requires the Mastering Suite and a serrate computer as the render typically a certified Dell Rack mount server/workstation, a MADI interface or a Dante interface that will interface with the render machine which is not cheap!
DaVinci resolve and Cubase supported it as well and other daw will support it soon.
Thanks Mitch and Sarah
Great demo! Looking forward to trying this out. Ohhh the possibilities!
@ 10:47 I thought that the whole process is simple, streamlined, easy to understand and enjoyable... and if APPLE said it was the future - good luck to Apple and everyone else following it - enjoy the ride!!! NO disrespect to Sweatwater - thank you for trying to explain what it is all about!!!
wow...Atmos Mixing in headphones?!?!?!? .. thought it'd be forever until I can buy a Dolby setup, so this makes me want to cry from excitement lol
Lol, nonsense. 😂 The very idea of atmos requires more than 2 speakers. The only thing you will ever get out of headphones is stereo (left and right speakers). This is all just marketing nonsense... Atmos makes no sense for music.
@@Jg-be7it Effen correct.
If this will become the standard, this is the end for amateur engineers, Apple is about to only let enter in playlists the music mixed in Atmos, if it was hard to make it, now it's impossible
BINGO...... DEAD ON..
@@DirtyDiggz I think you are effen dead on.
How do you set up the mastering suite with pro tools on a different mac? Is the interface connected to the mac with the renderer? Or the one with pro tools?
If its in the renderer mac, then how does pro tools connect to the “Dolby audio bridge “?
The question is: if I mix my movie´s sound in atmos, do I have to pay a license to be able to play it in theaters or Netflix using the atmos decoders ?
its work with windows ?
I would like a video where they set up everything including the external renderer!
really helpful!
What about in Logic Pro
"the panning sort of thing" last thing i want to hear from a sales engineer
Why do you have a mono video when talking about Atmos and sound stages?
A lot of really good information. I'll take it! Great video, thanks 🤘
Something I have not seen yet, do you mix in atmos and then master in Atmos using the same speaker setup and DAW settings? Or would you master the atmos mix as a typical stereo track? Seems not likely but would be good to know before I jump into trying atmos. Great vid again Mitch
There isn’t really a “mastering” phase with Atmos, it’s just finished at the delivery point. You might want to have a second engineer cross-check your work, but really that’s what a mastering engineer should be doing in stereo mixes
@@adamsteelproducer so I imagine you’re bringing the mix volume up to industry standard levels in mixing only? Whatever LUFS level you are seeking? Thanks for responding, super appreciate it!
Great question. At this time there’s not really a espérate mastering process for an Atmos mix. In practice, I use the phantom bus technique by Lursen to employ mastering on my Atmos mixes.
There is no two bus processing in immersive audio... That's all....
@@adamsteelproducer I'm not sure if I'm right, but it seems to me like, if you use the traditional concept of "mastering=making it sound good on any end playback system", that the whole Atmos thing shifts the "mastering" to the Atmos decoder in the Atmos compatible device that's playing it back. All the track data gets delivered to the decoder, which knows what speakers/amps it is connected to. The decoder interprets the incoming data to be best played back for the integrated amps and speakers. Each Atmos capable playback device is "smart" and real-time masters for its own specs. The mixer can focus on mixing it for a cool immersive experience and leave all the playback devices to figure out thier own mastering. You don't ever see piecemeal or modular Atmos playback rigs for this reason. Each one has to be pre-packaged and pre-configured as a system to interpret the Atmos data streams for a very specific set of amps and speakers (in specific positions). Most Atmos systems with separate pieces (speakers that can be placed wherever) have some sort of calibration setup step needed once the speakers are placed so it knows how/when to deliver the correct audio to the correct speakers.
I spent a few hours mixing levels in atmos through this procedure last week in binaural. I can attest to the fact that it simply does NOT translate to headphones. This is NOT realistic for anyone who does not have a tuned room with the ACTUAL speakers. Good luck to everyone. As for me, I am perfectly fine not being "Playlisted" for the foreseeable future.
Very interesting 👍🏾
For the love of God... please stop telling people they can mix in Atmos using binaural headsets... BINAURAL HEADSETS...
Thank you for your prayer. You do mean that God's love is spatial don't you? Or can we get it using headsets? Please tell us how the love of God can help us with Headsets.
@@citizenworld8094 👀🤣💫🤣💫👍🤘
Great video. 😃👍♥️
MItch makes you want to play with it, Her: yes dig in. I like straight talkers!
I would love to use this for a live setting (I know Dolby Atmos for live use lol). Live events include large football stadiums and I’m trying to get the sound effects to be triggered by a performer but have it sound like the sound is coming from all around the audience. Would this software help with achieving this effect? (Performer triggers SFX, computer plays SFX, sends audio to sound board, sound board sends audio to speakers.)
Annoying that the production suite is Mac only, as both a PC and a Mac studio user I'm finding this really restrictive.
Reaper works better in many ways with ATMOS, and it allows you to have up to 64 channels per track, so you don’t get stuck with the ProTools 7.0.2 track limitation work-arounds.
better in what ways???
studio one 6.5 runs atmos now
I only hear protools need some info for ableton users
Sweetwater, why are you advertising ProTools so much? (more profit for you than selling other DAWs?) Steinberg Nuendo is superior especially for Atmos mixing. Regards, a Sweetwater customer and Nuendo user (bought it from you).
Because PT is industry standard for a reason and other DAWs are dumbed down versions. And getting dumber.
ASTRO A50s… :)
This is going to be hilariously outdated sooner than later. Until then, I feel like I need to upgrade all my guitar pedals so they are atmos enabled.
Also…. Mitch for President
Atmos is a complete waste of time and money
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SImple... ehhh YAEHHHHHH!!!!!!!! JAJAJAJA
Dolby Atmos pure marketing...final user don't care about it...
It's really not, though. People said stereo was a gimmick back in the day, too.
Do you have an atmos system? I mean real 7.1.4 set up with avr? If not well .. dont even talk about it 😂
Great content except there should have been an introduction video prior to this one called; "Getting started with tech companies trying to make money which pretty much has nothing do with music"
Pure nonsense for music infustry . . Marketing strat . . . . Home studios dont bother this
Technology is amazing lol
Life sure is getting crazy. We thought we welcomed stereo, now we seem to want infinite 3D surround. A true example of computers replacing people, because they don't fight back. Unfortunately for us, neither do the give birth, grow food, give love, nor die. AntiGod is in the house.
doing good after all the jobless and market crash talks
How to get back at the rappers and minorities in the industry. Don’t list them unless they go Atmos, way to go so expensive. Will get cracked and what for.
Yes, you are a surroundsound victim 😮😂
@@ewalksemporium6408 you are right and the difference is that nobody likes change and everything is bad… I pulled the trigger on this one ☝️
no
Mitch is lost
Since Corp bought SW,He is touting Apple Line.
Can you guys please stop trying to impress us with how many speakers your using and the price, manufacture, feelings,room position and nonsense. What’s the signal path? what are the speakers plugged into? What interface supports the speaker set up? What’s the connectivity usb, coaxial, traditional wire, wireless, are the speakers in the console what mixing console are we using? Give us some real information and stop Spec Flexing Thank You. Because at the end of the day, what I do know is with LogicX I don’t need any of those speakers. All of the work is done in box I can throw on some Apple AirPod pros and get the same effect
we dont need any atmos bulshit.we listen to music in stereo,just cos you can sell your tvs you are forcing us to atmos for what
THAT woman is BAD
Do not comply.
Sweetwater customer service is very bad but when you are buying something they are nice. Once you make the purchase you quickly find out they have slow service with clueless employees. Also the candy they send with each item is old Halloween trash.
Lol
For real?!?
I haven't had any issues 🤷🏾🤷🏾
I bought something I didn't need from them..
@@phinyx I bought the candy and threw out the software because there was no taste off it.
Binaural is totally underwhelming.