+Cody'sLab That is exactly what I think happened. The Marvel Cinematic universe will split into different universes. That's how they'll deal with the ever growing list of superheroes. The universes will be themed to differentiate them. For example there will be a darker R-rated universe that will handle more mature content. Mutants will be in another, and so on.
The odds that the Black Panther is dead, which made $1.3 billion dollars at the box office, is as close to absolute zero as the temperature of Scarlett Johansson's lust for me after the heat death of the universe. (Which to the surprise to no one is infinitesimally different from before the heat death of the universe.)
When I took microbiology in high school our teacher had us do an experiment where we took a sterile petri dish with agar in it. Then we took an inoculating loop and introduced bacteria from different surfaces around the room into the sterile dish. For the next two or three weeks we watched the bacteria in that dish grow. At first we couldn't see any at all but eventually, using our microscopes, we saw bacterial colonies growing in the dish. Over time we learned to count the number of bacteria and log the colonies progress. Eventually we could see the fingers of the bacterial population spreading across the agar in the dish with the naked eye. Then something odd happened. The colonies in the dish began to shrink, the fingers receding back towards their centers until we needed the microscopes to see the bacteria again. The organisms population continued shrinking until they were gone and once again the dish was sterile. When our teacher asked us what had happened, what had killed all the bacteria in the dish, we began to throw out theories. They ran out of food. This was discounted because there were still huge quantities (if you're a microscopic organism) of agar in the dish. They ran out of oxygen? Nope, the dishes were not air-tight so plenty of breathable atmosphere existed. Ran out of water? Nope, agar has lots of available water so while there is agar, there is water. it turns out what killed the bacteria in the dish and what will kill us here on earth, was their waste. They produced waste that made the petri dish unlivable for the bacteria that made it. We are doing the same thing and that is what will kill us. At least that is what the evidence suggests. What do you think?
That's a great experiment and a very valid point...I fully agree especially since CO2 also is a waste product of our consumption which is already starting to make life very difficult for us
More importantly the complete absence of natural cycles that recycle the waste in the Petri dish is the cause In nature, almost every important element has its own cycle-carbon cycle, water cycle, nitrogen cycle, sulfur cycle etc. The elements keep circulating within the sections of the cycle. Even the accumulation of CO2 (which is causing Climate change) in the atmosphere is only partially due CO2 emissions but mainly due to the habitat destruction that humans are doing and destroying ecosystems and thus destroying or preventing from reforming, the natural cycles that keep recycling the CO2. This interference in Natural Cycles in recycling CO2 leads to accumulation of CO2.
@@rohitkale6380 Yes. The pitri dish habitat is overwhelmed by the overpopulation of bacteria. The earth's recycling systems (plants for "scrubbing" CO2 and turning it back into oxegyn for example) is overwhelmed by human overpopulation. And ultimately this will lead to the extinction of human beings as bacterial overpopulation led to the early demise of bacteria in the pitri dish. Of course the pitri dish could not remove the bacterial waste products whereas the earth could, if not overwhelmed by human overpopluation, recycle the waste products of the oragnisms living here. So while your point is a good one, we are still living in a limited system and human overpopulation is still the cause of pretty much all of our prolbems.
@@veramae4098 Well technically all the bacteria do is compost really. :) That's the thing, we "know" how to do all the right things but there are just too many of us overwhelming the earth's ability to assimilate our waste and our consumption (C02 and Methane from our industry is part of our waste along with plastic and benzyne and....). The bacteria ran into the same problem. They had a massive pitri dish bu when their population grew too large their waste killed them. Luckily we don't live in a a pitri dish so if there are few enough of us we can live with the earth. I'm just saying.
One of the biggest problems with Thanos' plan is that it would statistically guarantee somewhere in the universe, all of the most important people for a healthy modern society, like doctors, chemists, etc, would suddenly be gone, and people would start dying of previously benign things again, thus massively increasing suffering beyond the initial loss of loved ones.
"this was clearly evil" oh come on. He only took out half of all life. He could have done worse, Like make one guy and his family build a boat and gather 2 of every animal to put on that boat, then flood all of the earth; and have boat dingus interbreed with his blood relatives. I mean some people would call that all that is good and merciful.
The hardest choices require the strongest of wills. Thanos ideals are not far off form light yagami, he wanted to create the perfect society. No criminals, no bad guys, none. Only hard working essential workers that provide a necessary need to society. But humans are not perfect and it’s not ideal, eventually people would come together and take him down.
IF we managed to get better at managing resources, it would be reasonable to think the Earth could support roughly four times the population it has now while returning vast swathes to nature. But this would require enormous effort. The irony is, if done carefully, the quality of life would improve. It would create an enormous number of jobs and actually decrease poverty. The catch is, it would require a few ventures which would start at an economic loss. In an era of quarterly earnings reports, this would be complicated to say the least.
δτ livestock uses 75% of agricultural land while it doesn't even provide 20% of all calorie eaten by humans. if everyone choses the option that uses about 25% of all land mass and that can feed 80% ... Make it 30/35% of agricultural land and it then feeds 100%. Then not only do you stop deforestation but you also leave back land for the forest to grow back save, that would suck CO2, that will stop species extinction, that will save trillions of animals from slaughter... But people most people are just selfish hypocritical pricks so ... that's not happening.
@@joannot6706 Thanks for your reply. Somehow, I had understood William Steveling to mean more than using farmland more efficiently and cutting back on meat consumption depending on how much farmland we want to give back to nature, so to speak. Well, if we don't act soon on that behalf, those who live in misery and hunger are going to eat the rich. Sooner or later we cannot ignore the tensions arising from (global) inequality anymore, although it is better to change as soon as possible. By the way, do you have any particular sources for your numbers or are they easily found? Still, I wonder if William has had other resources in mind besides farmland.
Actually, since Communism has never actually been established, we have no idea. Technically, Communism as an economic structure requires a transition to Democracy to actually work. Marxism doesn't work, or at least it never seems to get to the point where leaders step aside to allow the final steps to happen. Also, this is not a binary state. Mixed economies seem to do quite well, and encouragement to invest in more efficient technologies has generally had strong long-term growth benefits. Managed is also a poorly defined term. If you mean a system wherein government makes all of the business decisions, then history suggests you are correct. Where government has set minimum standards and funded research, however, history suggests you are wrong. Also, yes, more efficiency was where I was going, but not just more efficient use of arable land (though that too). If we don't fix some big issues... Well, check the following: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peak_phosphorus Note not one of the top four countries are strong allies of the US or Western culture in general
@@brentduganiero1631 If you're talking about slowing population growth, educating girls is the better target, for a bunch of reasons. They'll have fewer children, later, and those children will be better off. I am absolutely all for educating everyone, but in many parts of the world (the ones with high poverty and high birth rates), girls are the ones who miss out the most.
Agreed, has been shown, educated girls make better life choices. Add empowerment of women as well, women should have total control over how many children they have.
Great vid, Joe! I have thought about this problem ad nauseam ever since I read a book espousing the dangers of population growth several years ago. After a trip to Peru, where I had a chance to see a country with much less wealth than here in the USA, it only increased my concern. And while I knew there were limiting factors to the dangers of population growth, I didn’t see any kind of silver lining sufficient enough to mitigate these. So, in other words, your video gives me hope that we can deal with this problem and keep going.
3:56 - I have a few gripes with your well-being figures: Firstly, you can't equate a country's GDP with the prosperity of the people. The GDP is a measure of the economic output of a country. It basically measures the well-being of the companies, but doesn't reflect the well-being of said companies employees. Secondly, if you take a look of the increase of global food production (as per your chart), you will see that it correlates pretty much linearly with the increase in population, which means the food supply per capita has stagnated.
Even *per capita doesn't reflect it correctly, as lot of statistics don't. The overall trends are correct though.. Food production doesn't include quality variable, as that is going down, subjectively, contributing to obesity, among other factors. World is infinitely complicated system, trends are temporary.
I really really recommend you to watch Hans Roslings lesson on this topic (population growth). He was amazing at presenting statistics and gave so much insight. Again, i really recommend anyone to see it!
Im absolute on youre side. Things are changing, i hope for better. The question is come we fast enough to the point were we are sustainable or have we destroyed the earth before we reach this?
Thanos had the power to do literally any and everything. With that same snap, he could of made it so resources never ran out. That's why his motivation in the comics was to impress Death.... WHY DID THEY CHANGE THAT!!!!.... But I digress. Great video. :)
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Malthus was the best partier ever! "Should we do tequila shots and ride our horses of this cliff and see if we survive?" Malthus "Yes, yes, excellent idea, all at once or one at a time?" Also Malthus "Might I suggest blindfolds?"
You’re a fool and a fail if you think the best solution is for you and/or us to be eliminated. In a way, I agree with projekt kobra, if you think you’re simply a parasite or that humanity isn’t ‘worthy’, then do your part and rid us(and the universe) of your pestilence. Frankly, you shouldn’t presume to speak for humanity. And when you come to your senses, buck up and grab a shovel. There’s plenty of work to do.
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Envido32 less typing more cutting you mouthy failure.
70% of the food we're growing on earth is going to the animals, because for us to eat them, they need obviously to be fed. But the farming is one of the worst climate killers. So how in the world is veganism not an option?! All the space that we're using to grow food just to get our meat on the plate once or twice a week could be used different. Less rain forests to burn down. Less tress which set free the CO2 they stored in the burning process. Smarter agriculture. Less animals abuse obviously?!
@@zUJ7EjVD I hope I understood everything correctly because English isn't my mothertounge. So you're saying, that livestock (with which you mean intensive livestock farming? It's Massentierhaltung in German haha not sure if we're talking about the same thing) is NOT fed with biproducts. But biproducts of what exactly? Of the soy production?
@@zUJ7EjVD oh boy, that translation didn't work at all haha, but thanks for the effort. To be honest, if I weren't born German, this language would be the LEAST I would want to learn. To what I heard german sounds horrible to people not having german as their main language 😂. But back to topic: I understand what you're saying and in the end I think we are on the same page that the soy that's fed to the animals is not a biproduct of the "tofu soy". That doesn't change the fact that 70% of the food we are farming worldwide is used for livestock. But it doesn't have to be that way. If we would reduce the livestock farming or whatever it's called (I think you know what I mean) we could use the space for more sustainable farming or for whatever it's needed. The monoculture makes everything worse, because the fields are getting useless and more space is needed which leads to more destruction of nature. I hope this was understandable😅
@@zUJ7EjVD Yeah you're right. I mean I am mostly vegan and I think that's the way, but in terms of convincing people one should probably start with "quit red meat, it's really dangerous for your health" "maybe eat meat a lot lesser" or smth. I think spanish would be a good option, because it's the second world language and it sounds so beautiful. I had french in school for three veeeeeery long years D: enough is enough :'D
As always, great video! Thanks Joe. One thing very important to mention though is women empowerment and emancipation. The more women get access to education, the less kids they have. Without that it’s very hard to reduce birth rate.
I'm taking a economics class on this issue. It's super interesting, but looking historically, the o e thing humans are *really* good at is solving problems
Yeah, sure. The planet might be able to support 12 billion humans but at the expense of countless other species. The extinction rate due to habitat loss is just depressing.
Kudos Joe! This topic is perhaps the one most misunderstood by otherwise 'educated' people. Great that you are getting the word out. One thing you left out is the main driver of the drop in fertility rates: Female education. There appears to be an ironclad correlation between how many years of education a woman receives and how many children she has. As female education goes up in a country or continent, the birthrate declines, period. Virtually every developed country now has a birthrate at or below the 'replacement rate' of 2.1 children per woman. Julian Simon's smackdown of Erlich was epic. It would be hard to find someone that was more thoroughly wrong about essentially everything than Erlich was. Now we certainly have problems to work on going forward (i.e. Climate Change), but resource depletion and population explosion are not among them.
I hope you're right, but there could be one problem: There only needs to be one population that goes against the trend (e.g. by not educating their women and using them as birth machines by tradition... maybe as an edict from "God") and you get exponential growth in that population and it will continue the problem and after a few generations take over the world by numbers. Exponential growth is powerful like that.
I am concerned about loss of habitat for non-human animal species, and about our huge, mechanized consumption of sea creatures. I can't believe it will be all right for us to cause so many species extinctions without eventual consequences for our human way of life.
Joe Scott - TH-cam finally recommended this video to me. "The Club of Rome" was making headlines decades back when I was in college . . . a little later Dr. O'Neill wrote "The High Frontier: Human Colonies in Space". One of the things the people in giant space habitats will do will be to "eat" asteroids and comet, turn that into farmland, farm that, and sell food to people on Earth. Want to make a Ehrlich - Simon bet? Or course we will have to depend on "longevity escape velocity" because I'm guessing that will happen within sixty years or so.
11 (maternal) and 3 (paternal) for my grandparents. My parents generation stopped at three or four each. By and large 'my' generation only has one or two (although one cousin has cranked out eight).
It's all about energy. Once we have a source of abundant cheep clean energy we can grow crops in deserts, using vertical farming and other un-arable land. We can cheaply capture and sequester CO2 and stabilize the climate. We can use the energy to use some of that captured CO2 and water to create clean burning hydrocarbon fuels so we don't have to rely on batteries for everything. Use it to explore and mine space for the limited elements we start running out of on earth even though with cheap energy we could recycle a lot more of those than we do today. While solar, wind, hydro and to a larger extent geo-thermal can play a part, for the energy to be cheap and clean enough it will need to be nuclear, either fusion or fission with some serious upgrades, or you know infinity stones of course.
@@douganderson7002 You mean the current agricultural model is? I agree. What I'm saying is with enough cheep or free energy you can pretty well do whatever you want. Turn the Sahara green using desalination or run a 100 story aquaponics farm that runs on sewage if you want these technologies exist they are just too costly to run in terms of energy.
Obvious: No, Thanos wasn't right for killing all those people. Less Obvious: The Avengers weren't right to bring them all back 5 years later. The second snap would have done just as much damage and caused just as much pain as the first.
@@Dinoenthusiastguy You know, I wouldn't be concerned about those people. It seems as though the stones execute the intent of the bearer's wishes pretty faithfully. I imagine Bruce was smart enough to wish that everyone be bright back safely. The problem is that the world would have largely moved on after 5 years. Governments and companies would have replaced key people by now. Homes and property would have been sold off years ago. Commodity markets would have adjusted to the lower population size. Millions and millions of people would starve due to the lack of market recourses. It would be years of turn over all over again.
@@DallasMay That's a very good point - I hadn't really considered how the stones take the users' intents into account. I assumed based off the opening scene in far from home that bringing people back could have far more serious consequences than messing up a band performance, but I think you're right. But yeah, totally agree with your main point, that would be a complete disaster.
A couple of years ago, a group of farmers in Austria made a film called "Bauer Unser". In the film, they explained how they could easily feed 12 billion people but are prevented from doing so by the deliberate policies of the banking cartel. They also reported that around one third of farm production is, literally, thrown away; again at the behest of the bankers. It has been calculated that the state of Bavaria, in Germany, could easily feed the entire German population and all other farms could be closed down. Once again, the bankers prevent this happening. So maybe not Thanos but Rockefeller, Carnegie, Morgan etc. should be the subject of your next investigation. Blessed be Karma Singh
But the down side of all that food production is soil degradation. The more we get from our crops the more the crops take from the soil. So as the population grows the amount of crops needed grows thus a vicious cycle. So in the end dosent that mean thanos is still right?!
There are alternatives like aquaponics and aeroponics, also fertilisation, plus whatever some kid currently at school will come up with in 10 years to feed everyone
If numbers aren't a problem, why cite infinite economic growth as the problem? Ultimately economic growth is linked to population. Hence why shrinking populations are linked to shrinking economies. Besides that, expecting everyone to live on a fraction of what they do now calls into question what you regard as "living". If you think that battery farms of people crammed into tiny spaces living off algae is life, then what is the purpose of intelligence in the first place? Are we individuals, or battery hens?
There's also the bit where Thanos didn't just killed half of all intelligent beings. He killed half of all LIFE. The ecological impact of this would end up killing even more.
@@noneyabidness7226 The worst part was not knowing that he had to do a numbing shot for each side. I thought the worst part was over and halfway through he's like "okay, now we're going to give you a shot in the other side." RIP. Oh and he also asked if I wanted to see what the tube looked like while he was cutting and pulling away. I politely declined.
There is something else to keep in mind. The population needs to keep growing to fuel the economy. In a declining rate less and less people keep working to sustain the older people. Also companies will get it harder if the consumer market dries up. So from an economic stance its bad to have growth flatten. In that case we need a whole new model.
Great comment about antibiotics, Joe. Someone once asked Woody Allen if he would rather live in the past were so many of his movies are set. He famously said (I’m paraphrasing) “yes, anytime after the invention of Novocaine.” Life on our past sparsely populated planet was short, painful, and brutal. Things are way better now, and with all of the challenges ahead I think the future will be even better - 12 billion included.
What they left out of the movie, what is integral to Thanos in the comics, is that he is in love with Death... like as an external, incarnate being... he considers Her his bride... incidentally, his name is very close to the Greek for Death... Thanatos
I would like to comment on the Everybody Needs To Go veganism viewpoint. At one point in my son's life he was allergic to basically everything that grows in the ground that we normally eat in the US. The top offenders on this list were wheat, corn, and soy. Soon after followed by peanuts and all tree nuts. This course includes almonds, which is used to replace wheat flour in a lot of cases. As a single parent I was overwhelmed with how to give my son basically any food whatsoever. It turns out there is a lot of alternatives to most of these products. Quinoa flour is just absolutely incredible. Avocado oil to cook food in is some sort of miracle in a bottle as far as I'm concerned. I say all of this to point out that even over the last few years, the Alternatives that he can eat have increased and have increased in quality. There are people in the industry working hard to replace corn and other products in some food. The same will happen on the vegan side of things. There will be advancements and Alternatives presented that will make the transition into veganism way easier then we think is possible now. It is hard for me to imagine life without meat. But a few years ago I had no idea how you can make crackers without wheat or corn. They do it every day.
One of the problems of the Everyone Vegan idea is of course that it will lead to the extinction of at least one farm animal, the cow, which has no wild equivalent. After all, if it has no commercial value, farmers have no reason to keep it. And unlike the horse, which has limited value as a racing/recreation animal and survives as such, the cow is solely a farm animal. The fate of several other farm animals will be almost as dismal. Part of why I favour less absolutist ideologies, like Stoicism, which has no problems with any specific food per se.
Do any of you remember the movie Earth star Voyager from 1988. It was a Disney TV movie, that I remember being decent at the time. Anyhow, it was a semi dystopian future story about how pollution killed the Earth and Humanity was looking for a new home. they seem to be on a vegan diet and two of the young men that were about to go in the mission ordered a algae Burger. Or something to that effect, anyhow, it look disgusting and I think that was the idea. But that image and other images like that stick in our brain when most of us non-vegans think of total veganism. Just like there was a horrible commercial from one of the car companies that showed non eco-friendly car owners getting arrested. That is what the far-right actually believe is going to happen. It is not a smart idea to sell cars that way, or to promote veganism. Yes, I am aware that no one is going to get arrested for driving an SUV, it was just irritating that that's how a car company was selling Green Technology. Not a big fan of using fear in advertising.
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Mark K. have you checked him with oats, far far superior to that newfangled wheat muck.
The population is still DEFINITELY a problem. To say it isn't because obesity rates are higher and whatnot is a silly argument. The oceans are filling up with plastic, the earth is warming faster and faster, local climates are shifting drastically, more and more species are going extinct at an exponential rate, natural habitats are being fragmented and destroyed, diseases like AIDS and cholera are ravaging Africa by the millions, ten thousand children die of starvation each day, scarce resources are being dug out of the ground and used up far faster than they are being replenished, clean drinking water is becoming a huge problem in arid poor regions of the world, wealth inequality is getting worse and worse as the world is becoming ruled by a global elite... I could go on and on. Yet Joe says none of this stuff is a problem because there are more fat people than there has ever been. Just silly.
India birth rate is now 2.1 and will keep falling than in 40 s start declining same for china and south east asia but we need to help african nations and not by murdering them but in controlling birth rates
We don't need to control their birth rates, that does not work. They refuse to use birth control messurements for obvious reasons. I would highly encourage you to watch some presentations of Hans Rosling, his TED talks about Child mortality and religion in regards of population control is just on point.
As someone pointed out: education is paramount. For example, there are people in Africa that truly believe that having unprotected sex with a virgin is the cure for AIDS.
I liked this video just for the segue to the sponsor spot at the end. You need to go teach Linus @ Linus Tech Tips a thing or two about segues... he needs it!
The problem is most people don't want to reduce anything they do or have, think about it people pay 40k on a Rolex watch but want give a homeless person a meal, governments spend billions on the latest tech to kill but don't take care of the vetrons that spilt their blood in the field, I tell you I have lived a long time and seen more than most of the horrors that man capable of and I see nothing on a meaningful level that will do anything to change the path we are on.....
You mentioned the fact that the birth rate and death rates were high, then the death rates lowered, leading to this population explosion, then the birth rates started to go down, stabilizing them, but I could foresee another problem over the horizon, once life extension technologies start lowering the death rate, leading to another population boom (or more like small trickle) as people are born at a slower rate, but the population isn't really going down anymore with not as many people dying so it leads to another exponential increase, albeit slower.
Great! I just watched Infinity War and really thought Thanos was on to something. But after watching your video, I am changing my oppinion. Overpopulation is not a problem. Overconsumption is. Briljant!
@@douganderson7002 when a nation begins to be richer, the growth of population really becomes slower... So if you educate and let use their own resources to the nations who are poorer the growth will really slow down... It's true when they say we could imagine the world extinction before the end of capitalism... And no, noone is saying anything about communism. It's just letting anyone have the same rights to live freely and not being abused by corporations...
@@douganderson7002 "Yeah, global communism. What could go wrong. " Communism isn't the problem. Corrupted Communism is the problem; as is ANY form of government when it's corrupted. So singling out Communism doesn't make you look all too smart.
@@MistedMind Absolutely, just look at Trump's America for an example of corrupt democracy and corrupt capitalism. Though one might argue all capitalism is inherently corrupt, as it is all about the Individual putting themselves before the Group.
Thanos was an idiot, and the fact that none of the characters in the movies have taken the time to address how stupid and ineffectual his plan was tells me that, most likely, whoever came up with this plot point was stupid, too.
No it is not, the amount of trendy 'superfoods' you need to ship or fly across the globe is unfeasible. Oh, and please you be the one that kindly informs all several million inhabitants of colder latitudes to relocate to more favorable areas with better temps suited to plant based agriculture. You will be lynched on the spot. Vegetarianism is fine, that's doable I guess but veganism is fashion based cultured garbage that is only made possible by our level of tech/markets that allow you to have anything that you want in a moment + pharma suplying your B12 meds. The SECOND that falls away...well it won't be vegans that are going to survive.
@@Wayoutthere I live in Sweden (56°N) and here, in the cold north, veganism is entirely possible without importing foodstuffs from across the globe! Sweden does import but it is not a necessity for an appealing vegan diet.
Just for the record...the original Thanos killed out of love for the personification of death.....not population control. That would have taken care of the " options" you describe.
I just came from watching the five video series on Irelands Potato Famine from 'Extra History', and you when realise how similar some of the reasoning British politicians had behind not doing anything to help at least some of the 1.1 million people who died during the famine are to Thanos's reasoning, any logic in his arguments just fly out the window. Seriously, watch that video series, then ask yourself if the universe would be any more grateful to Thanos than Ireland was to England - ie severing ties between them forever.
I have always been skeptical of that vegan argument about how it takes 4 lb of grain to generate 1 lb of meat. The planet could support 12 billion people, but at a major sacrifice of quality of life and probably what we now in the West call individual freedom. A propaganda campaign to force/cajole humanity into veganism would have to be brutal. Is it really worth it, just to see how many butts can be packed onto the Earth? Just hope it does not come to that, or a massive die-off.
This video is the perfect example of watching it to the end. When the first population numbers came in I went right to write a comment. Then I thought, nah, let's wait 😂 Good video. Spot on.
I've been enjoying your series very much. I have a topic to suggest: The year 535AD volcanic event. Have you seen the PBS documentary on youtube with David Keys? Amazing story! And the most compelling example I know of nature affecting human civilization and history. Volcanos are much more likely to drastically affect humans than any other major natural event!
I don't think Thanos is evil at all. (Infinity War version, of course) He's logical. He views the world through a more objective lens than most, putting his own family, happiness and well-being aside for the betterment of the universe. The way I see this version of Thanos, he's an idealist and perhaps former pessimist who stepped up and decided to fix things himself.
If Thanos would be logical, he would know that a population explosion is pretty much a one time occurence. Something that is leading to a peak, followed by a decrease of population and stagnation. It's pretty simple. You have a badly developed society, where a lot of children are necessary due to many early death and culture where the young need to care for the elderly. Due to a change in factors like health care and wealth of a society, children stop dying at a young age, mothers stop dying at child birth. Since culture, laws, governments and social structure doesn't change at the same rate, people still get more children, especially with war in the mean time. So you get a massive population growth in a rather short amount of time. The end is inevitable. The changes in health care and wealth happened due to progress and they don't stop there, which is why the very same thing happened in every country of the world. Not at the same time, it happens delayed and in waves. First world, second world, third world. One after another. Thanos is an idiot, who doesn't have a clue.
The best form of population control is simply to make education and upward economic mobility more accessible to the masses. Once these things - luxuries which have historically been the exclusive purview of the elite - are democratized around the globe, people's natural ambitions will cause most of them to delay having children, thus producing smaller families, or they will forgo having children all together. Hence, to get at the root of the problem, rules have to be in place that make access to education and climbing the economic ladder a fairer game. Europe is the microcosm that proves this.
we can't forgo having children otherwise who will be working to pay taxes so that the retired people get social security, which is already a problem in America
David did asked Walter of what he's truly concerned about the populations of humanity and rooms for the environment to live; "Why are you in the colonization mission, Walter? Because they are dying species grasping for resurrection. They don't deserve to start again and I won't let them."
Going back ten years I was pessimistic about the future. Now with the likes of renewable energy production cheap (already in many countries the cheapest form of energy), the new revolution in agriculture (GM, Hydroponics, Robotisation and so on) beginning, alternatives to crude oil feed stocks and the list goes on, I have become optimistic. The real issue is pollution and with cheap energy (from renewables) and a bit of will power this is not an issue. The real issue we are coming to is a society/political/economic change that is needed but we don't like change.
it's not the general population that doesn't like change... I've seen whole populations change over 3 generation, like you would not believe... take the 20th Century for instance, even the last 50 - 60 years.... the immense amount of change... people are willing to adapt new stuff when it is in their own self interests... the only ones who don't like change are the ones who control the purse strings of the economy... they don't like to see their control weaken... and with our society built on scarcity, the change to a post scarcity economy is not going to make them happy... their special status will evaporate...
agreed, and 15 or so years ago I came to the same conclusion as Ray Kurzweil... advancement in technology and society has gone off the linear rails and is now on an exponential curve, where by the year 2100, it will appear as if this century, for every decade, we will have advanced 100 years... equivalent to the last 1000 years... (to make that clearer, the first two decades of this century are equivalent of the years 1000 AD to 1200 AD; Ray Kurzweil's prediction of the Singularity, 2045 is equivalent to the invention of the printing press) one only has to look at the changes from 1869 (completion of the Trans Continental Railroad) to 1969 (landing on the Moon) and then from 1969 to 2019 to see the accelerating speed... I know to some youngsters it doesn't seem like we have changed that much, but believe me when I say I feel like I am living in a Sci-Fi book or movie of the 50's or 60's... we take so much for granted... self opening doors, paying for meals at our seats with hand held debiting cards, signing for deliveries from Amazon on a touch screen, watching weather radar on our screens, gravity maps that tell us where minerals are, not just on Earth but on other Sol bodies... now we are looking at self driving cars, and a host of other technologies... even Data, the android is not beyond our capabilities... When Elon Musk's first 300 tons of cargo lands on Mars, there will be AI robots in the mix, whether vehicles or humanoid robots is to be seen, but that is a the least 4 - 6 years away... This century will produce many more surprises than we can ever imagine... it's going to be a wild ride... buckle up...
Well, no, science maybe misused but it will also be the answer to many problems. Yes using growth hormones is terrible and it should be stopped as in the EU. The great thing about the up coming new revolution in agriculture is that it will make it far more sustainable. Far fewer chemicals and fertilizers will be required whilst production goes up. This will happen in many ways. For instance a robot can scan plants and see if they require any nutrients or been attacked by a particular pest, this actually done in many places already. A weed doesn't need to be sprayed just removed or burnt with a laser. The same for a pest or a diseased leaf on a crop. Better land management such as zero tillage, allowing better soil structure to build up. Hydroponics, aquaponics, genetics, artificial meats, better transportation of goods and so on. We can and will feed 10 billion people with a decent diet (if they choose it) and it will become far more sustainable. Actually hopefully I get the time and money to experiment with hydro & aquaponics in the next couple of years actually putting the plants under stress on purpose. This so the theory goes should increase the amount of flavour in fruits and veg.Medicine is about to go through a technical revolution driven largely by AI & machine learning. In my rather long and drawn out experience of health care I've found 25% of doctors really care and are doing their best for you. 50% well it's a well paying job and the other 25% are actively trying to kill you. Can't wait until the doctor I see is an AI.Water, well stopping misuse of water in agriculture will free up much water. Then comes renewables bringing in an age of cheaper energy. There will be over production of electricity, it's just you have to have extra for those times of peak demand (not talking about daily but longer time periods) that's great to pump water quickly and cheaply up to storage. Then this runs back down to the desalination plant that basically just requires the water to be under pressure. That Malthusian way of thinking is for the past, with renewables and technology we will move into a time of sustainable wealth available for all if society always it. With cheap energy resources become plentiful.
dude, when I die, I want to go the Thanos way - just disintegrate into heaven (hopefully) without pain. The thing with Thanos was that he did seem to be working towards what he thought was a greater good for man(alien) kind and not just a psychopathic blood lustful murderer like the typical Lex Luther character ... right? 😬
Yes. But Thanos's principle consultants were Professor Beevis and Dr. Butthead. Basically, the Thanos project was a scheme for these dudes to get girls.
Hitler & the Nazis also thought they were "working toward...greater good for mankind". Stark, as a vain, greedy, drunk w/ power villain turned hero, knew the best idea was to get rid o/t obvious evil & let ev1 else learn fm their mistakes.
I like the idea of there still being diversity in the natural world and so far humans have been pretty good at wiping out other animals and this will get worse if we keep destroying natural habitat to fuel our way of life. I also notice that we seem to be building on a lot of the countryside in my part of the world (southern England) due to a housing shortage. A lot of the reason for this is population growth (added to by a lot of people coming to live here from abroad and other parts of the country) and that a lot more people live alone these days (me included so I am part of the problem). Our economic model is to blame for a lot of the excess consumption (look at how mobile phone contracts work for an example of this). So far we have proved very adaptable but I do think we are making the world a poorer place environmentaly and there is always the chance we will screw up big time at some point. I am such a cheerful soul.
I believe that the developed countries are going to have to go into these other and try to make them livable again after all the wars and political unrest to stave off all the immigration that is over populating these developed countries like yours, Tthere has to be some limit to immigration because at some point it will become unlivable for the original inhabitants of these countries and unsubstainable economically to support all these additional people
Robert, there are solutions to everything. It's just that nobody cares to invest in what matters, because it's not profitabile. The greatest problem we have (it's not a problem any more, but a predicament now) is carbon. We have to scrub it out of our atmosphere or we're toast (literraly). I'm looking for smart people to help me in this matter. If You wish, we could talk about it. Just say.yey! :)
Hey Joe, can you do a video on food made of crickets? I know some people that make burgers and other things made of crickets, and it’s kind of a superfood with almost only advantages and no disadvantages.
A quote from movie The Matrix: "Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment; but you humans do not. Instead you multiply, and multiply, until every resource is consumed. The only way for you to survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern... a virus" If human is a virus, then what is the coronavirus? Can I think of the coronavirus as part of the Earth's immune system, whose job is to cleanse the planet by getting rid of the real virus?
Bingo! The earth will kill us all. We know its going to happen, but do nothing to make any kind of big difference. We are the virus of earth, and when a cure comes, we will be nonexistent.
Thezebraherd since lab grown meat requires more exogenic inputs and volume per calorie than meat does, no that would only be exchanging one problem for another. Lab grown meat is fantasy escapism. Veganism is a real, proven, and viable solution.
@@andrewjohnson6716 No it is not, the amount of trendy 'superfoods' you need to ship or fly across the globe is unfeasible. Oh, and please you be the one that kindly informs all several million inhabitants of colder latitudes to relocate to more favorable areas with better temps suited to plant based agriculture. You will be lynched on the spot. Vegetarianism is fine, that's doable I guess but veganism is fashion based cultured garbage that is only made possible by our level of tech/markets that allow you to have anything that you want in a moment + pharma suplying your B12 meds. The SECOND that falls away...well it won't be vegans that are going to survive.
An analogy to visualize a rate of doublings such as our population rise. Take a pro sports arena stadium with towing stands encircling it. Imagine the bowl is sealed watertight. Then it begins to rain. Let's say the rate is raindrops falling begins at 1 drop per second and doubles every second. It would take over 45 minutes to completely cover the arena floor with water. It takes another 9 minutes to fill the area with a foot of water. It takes another 5 minutes to fill the bowl almost 90% full, in just 2 more minutes the entire bowl is filled plus half of another. In another hour then entire earth is completely covered with water.
the best thing we can get is a stable and rich africa and middle east. if all those millions of people would start developing dope tech to help the planet.. instead of running from bombs or searching for bread.. i can't imagine what kind of innovation we would see.
Way to generalise. Let's start using Mexico as a benchmark for North America! I hope North America gets it's shit together some day and becomes a continent of civilised people who don't try to escape into neighbouring countries all the time.
You fairly glossed over the impact on the natural world by referencing only the destruction of forests for arable land, they also do a little more than absorb CO2. The effects are far more acute and are worsening year on year. If the proposed solution to population growth is to raise the living standards of all third world nations (ideal in theory), the real question becomes can we do this without completely undermining the notion of an ecological balance. The average standard of living at the moment already requires 1.5 Earths to sustain it. Half of all wildlife has died off in the last 40 years. 83% of wild mammals are gone, 50% of plants. A study in Germany found a 76% decline in insect numbers over 27 years. Of all the mammals left on Earth, 96% are either human or livestock. Yet ppl continue to have faith that a techno fix will come along any day now and solve the problem. Stripping bare the natural world and then referencing the glut of natural resources (mostly wasted) and grossly increased obesity rates as almost positive indicators is ludicrous. As is this idea that the more ppl we have the more likely a solution will be found. The problem seems to be that there are already solutions to the problems we face, at least in principle, just none that can be sold to a public fattened at the tit of the infinite growth paradigm. So instead we wait, letting the multitude of problems gather and grow on the not too distant horizon. Doesn't say much about us does it?
They just discovered that the most common pencillin-resistant bacteria can be defeated by taking a combined treatment of pencillin and a different drug, which is already used for other diseases.
We might be able to save ourselves with bacteriophages. We really should've listened to Alexander Fleming when he warned us about antibiotics. Instead, I've seen people get their kids antibiotics for simple illnesses that they could easily fight off, and really need to fight off on their own. You're right, but there might be options. I'd prefer people stop abusing antibiotics, but we can't even convince antivaxxers, so... There's always hope I guess.
Thanos began his assault with six infinity stones: The Space Stone (blue), the Reality Stone (red), the Power Stone (purple), the Mind Stone (yellow), the Time Stone (green) and the Soul Stone (Amber). If you have all that power....... you could do a thousand things less damaging than to kill 50% of everything. You could, for instance, implant a natural equilibrium in the mating drives of all living things that calmed down when room became scarce. Many fish do that already.
11 billion is not sustainable. As the eleventh of 14 kids, I know poverty leads to abuse, anger, and depression. I got out but most don't. We are destroying the earth fast. I feel bad for my 2 grandkids.
I like to think Thanos created a parallel universe and sent half the people into it.
Thanos is really just a misunderstood guy!
I think Dr Strange sent Thanos into the mirror dimension and he killed half that dimension.
+Cody'sLab That is exactly what I think happened. The Marvel Cinematic universe will split into different universes. That's how they'll deal with the ever growing list of superheroes. The universes will be themed to differentiate them. For example there will be a darker R-rated universe that will handle more mature content. Mutants will be in another, and so on.
Thanos is damaged, his history dark. He killed them
The odds that the Black Panther is dead, which made $1.3 billion dollars at the box office, is as close to absolute zero as the temperature of Scarlett Johansson's lust for me after the heat death of the universe. (Which to the surprise to no one is infinitesimally different from before the heat death of the universe.)
When I took microbiology in high school our teacher had us do an experiment where we took a sterile petri dish with agar in it. Then we took an inoculating loop and introduced bacteria from different surfaces around the room into the sterile dish. For the next two or three weeks we watched the bacteria in that dish grow. At first we couldn't see any at all but eventually, using our microscopes, we saw bacterial colonies growing in the dish. Over time we learned to count the number of bacteria and log the colonies progress. Eventually we could see the fingers of the bacterial population spreading across the agar in the dish with the naked eye. Then something odd happened. The colonies in the dish began to shrink, the fingers receding back towards their centers until we needed the microscopes to see the bacteria again. The organisms population continued shrinking until they were gone and once again the dish was sterile. When our teacher asked us what had happened, what had killed all the bacteria in the dish, we began to throw out theories. They ran out of food. This was discounted because there were still huge quantities (if you're a microscopic organism) of agar in the dish. They ran out of oxygen? Nope, the dishes were not air-tight so plenty of breathable atmosphere existed. Ran out of water? Nope, agar has lots of available water so while there is agar, there is water.
it turns out what killed the bacteria in the dish and what will kill us here on earth, was their waste. They produced waste that made the petri dish unlivable for the bacteria that made it. We are doing the same thing and that is what will kill us. At least that is what the evidence suggests.
What do you think?
That's a great experiment and a very valid point...I fully agree especially since CO2 also is a waste product of our consumption which is already starting to make life very difficult for us
More importantly the complete absence of natural cycles that recycle the waste in the Petri dish is the cause
In nature, almost every important element has its own cycle-carbon cycle, water cycle, nitrogen cycle, sulfur cycle etc. The elements keep circulating within the sections of the cycle.
Even the accumulation of CO2 (which is causing Climate change) in the atmosphere is only partially due CO2 emissions but mainly due to the habitat destruction that humans are doing and destroying ecosystems and thus destroying or preventing from reforming, the natural cycles that keep recycling the CO2. This interference in Natural Cycles in recycling CO2 leads to accumulation of CO2.
@@rohitkale6380 Yes. The pitri dish habitat is overwhelmed by the overpopulation of bacteria. The earth's recycling systems (plants for "scrubbing" CO2 and turning it back into oxegyn for example) is overwhelmed by human overpopulation. And ultimately this will lead to the extinction of human beings as bacterial overpopulation led to the early demise of bacteria in the pitri dish. Of course the pitri dish could not remove the bacterial waste products whereas the earth could, if not overwhelmed by human overpopluation, recycle the waste products of the oragnisms living here. So while your point is a good one, we are still living in a limited system and human overpopulation is still the cause of pretty much all of our prolbems.
The bacteria didn't know how to compost.
@@veramae4098 Well technically all the bacteria do is compost really. :) That's the thing, we "know" how to do all the right things but there are just too many of us overwhelming the earth's ability to assimilate our waste and our consumption (C02 and Methane from our industry is part of our waste along with plastic and benzyne and....). The bacteria ran into the same problem. They had a massive pitri dish bu when their population grew too large their waste killed them. Luckily we don't live in a a pitri dish so if there are few enough of us we can live with the earth. I'm just saying.
One of the biggest problems with Thanos' plan is that it would statistically guarantee somewhere in the universe, all of the most important people for a healthy modern society, like doctors, chemists, etc, would suddenly be gone, and people would start dying of previously benign things again, thus massively increasing suffering beyond the initial loss of loved ones.
Joe, I don't know if anyone every says this, but "Thank You" for all you do. I love getting educated on these things by you. You're really great.
You’re welcome
@@Ivy-jo7tl “you’re welcome”
@@jgray1831 you are welcome
@@christianmarx3249 you are invited
“...There were options Thanos!” ROFL 🤣
Did you get your covid vaccine?
"Hey can i copy your homework?"
"Yeah just change it a bit'
Thanatos
*Thanos*
Tomatoa
"Thanos, the Purple People Beater" LOL So great.
I lol'd on that one too 😆😆
Glad someone got it. :)
It was a real gem of a joke.
Joe needs to get that on one of his shirts, ASAP! I would probably but one...
I would have said "Giant Purple People Beater".
"this was clearly evil" oh come on. He only took out half of all life. He could have done worse, Like make one guy and his family build a boat and gather 2 of every animal to put on that boat, then flood all of the earth; and have boat dingus interbreed with his blood relatives. I mean some people would call that all that is good and merciful.
The hardest choices require the strongest of wills. Thanos ideals are not far off form light yagami, he wanted to create the perfect society. No criminals, no bad guys, none. Only hard working essential workers that provide a necessary need to society. But humans are not perfect and it’s not ideal, eventually people would come together and take him down.
Savage lol... And accurate
And asking someone to kill their own son just to test their loyalty to you, although u tell him he doesn't need to anymore, THERE WERE OTHER WAYS!
Always someone gotta make it religious or political
Genius comment
Thanos seemed very smart until confronted with Joe, "there were options Thanos". Lol 😂
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IF we managed to get better at managing resources, it would be reasonable to think the Earth could support roughly four times the population it has now while returning vast swathes to nature. But this would require enormous effort. The irony is, if done carefully, the quality of life would improve. It would create an enormous number of jobs and actually decrease poverty. The catch is, it would require a few ventures which would start at an economic loss. In an era of quarterly earnings reports, this would be complicated to say the least.
How do you figure to do that?
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livestock uses 75% of agricultural land while it doesn't even provide 20% of all calorie eaten by humans. if everyone choses the option that uses about 25% of all land mass and that can feed 80% ... Make it 30/35% of agricultural land and it then feeds 100%. Then not only do you stop deforestation but you also leave back land for the forest to grow back save, that would suck CO2, that will stop species extinction, that will save trillions of animals from slaughter... But people most people are just selfish hypocritical pricks so ... that's not happening.
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Thanks for your reply.
Somehow, I had understood William Steveling to mean more than using farmland more efficiently and cutting back on meat consumption depending on how much farmland we want to give back to nature, so to speak.
Well, if we don't act soon on that behalf, those who live in misery and hunger are going to eat the rich.
Sooner or later we cannot ignore the tensions arising from (global) inequality anymore, although it is better to change as soon as possible.
By the way, do you have any particular sources for your numbers or are they easily found?
Still, I wonder if William has had other resources in mind besides farmland.
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Sure it's an FAO stat:
ourworldindata.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Land-use-graphic-01-01-01.png
Actually, since Communism has never actually been established, we have no idea. Technically, Communism as an economic structure requires a transition to Democracy to actually work. Marxism doesn't work, or at least it never seems to get to the point where leaders step aside to allow the final steps to happen.
Also, this is not a binary state. Mixed economies seem to do quite well, and encouragement to invest in more efficient technologies has generally had strong long-term growth benefits.
Managed is also a poorly defined term. If you mean a system wherein government makes all of the business decisions, then history suggests you are correct. Where government has set minimum standards and funded research, however, history suggests you are wrong.
Also, yes, more efficiency was where I was going, but not just more efficient use of arable land (though that too). If we don't fix some big issues... Well, check the following:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peak_phosphorus
Note not one of the top four countries are strong allies of the US or Western culture in general
One of the most effective ways to slow population growth: educate girls. It helps to solve a bunch of other issues too.
Also just educate girls.
Why not just properly educate EVERYONE ? Is there a reason why that wouldn’t be more effective than just educating one sex?
@@brentduganiero1631 obvioustroll is obvious?
@@brentduganiero1631 If you're talking about slowing population growth, educating girls is the better target, for a bunch of reasons. They'll have fewer children, later, and those children will be better off. I am absolutely all for educating everyone, but in many parts of the world (the ones with high poverty and high birth rates), girls are the ones who miss out the most.
Agreed, has been shown, educated girls make better life choices. Add empowerment of women as well, women should have total control over how many children they have.
Thanos could just snap his fingers every few years. He keep the infinity gauntlet.
I thought it broke after he used it
@@darthutah6649 the gauntlet got banged up but it still worked because he used it a second time to destroy the stones
Great vid, Joe! I have thought about this problem ad nauseam ever since I read a book espousing the dangers of population growth several years ago. After a trip to Peru, where I had a chance to see a country with much less wealth than here in the USA, it only increased my concern. And while I knew there were limiting factors to the dangers of population growth, I didn’t see any kind of silver lining sufficient enough to mitigate these. So, in other words, your video gives me hope that we can deal with this problem and keep going.
3:56 - I have a few gripes with your well-being figures:
Firstly, you can't equate a country's GDP with the prosperity of the people. The GDP is a measure of the economic output of a country. It basically measures the well-being of the companies, but doesn't reflect the well-being of said companies employees.
Secondly, if you take a look of the increase of global food production (as per your chart), you will see that it correlates pretty much linearly with the increase in population, which means the food supply per capita has stagnated.
Even *per capita doesn't reflect it correctly, as lot of statistics don't. The overall trends are correct though.. Food production doesn't include quality variable, as that is going down, subjectively, contributing to obesity, among other factors. World is infinitely complicated system, trends are temporary.
In HQ Thanos did it to please the love of his life, Ms. Death (the actual Death).
I really really recommend you to watch Hans Roslings lesson on this topic (population growth). He was amazing at presenting statistics and gave so much insight. Again, i really recommend anyone to see it!
Im absolute on youre side. Things are changing, i hope for better.
The question is come we fast enough to the point were we are sustainable or have we destroyed the earth before we reach this?
I really enjoy the evolution of your presentations. Very thoughtful. Clearly hard work. Carry on Joe Scott, your content is appreciated.
There are twice as many people on the planet as when I was born. That's scary.
There are 2.66 times the number of people there was when I was born at the end of WWII - which only reduced the human population by a tiny 3%.
I love this channel,always something to actually learn .
Thanos had the power to do literally any and everything. With that same snap, he could of made it so resources never ran out. That's why his motivation in the comics was to impress Death.... WHY DID THEY CHANGE THAT!!!!.... But I digress. Great video. :)
I coach debate, and my debaters used to love quoting Malthus. I won't talk about what the topic was.
This is the moment we’ve all been waiting for folks, and it’s finally here!
I discovered your channel this past weekend and I’ve been hooked ever since Joe! Great content! Keep up the good work!
With life extension the problem will become more complex.
And let's not forget that AI research and possible developlemts in Gene tampering may even introduce "immortality" in the enxt couple hundred years.
@@sertaki hundred of years? lol more like no later than end of this century.
Just wanted to comment that I discovered this channel only a few weeks ago and it's already become my favorite. Please keep up the excellent work.
Thanos for president.
Make the universe 50/50 again
I think we already have him.
No that's purple, not orange Jeff Little
Sounds like an improvement...
@@jefflittle8913 No... It's similar, but not the same. 😊
Our house used to have a Camera, Cam-recorder, Clock-Radio, Portable Music Players, Calculators, Books, a mobile GPS for trips, Flash Lights, a leveler, Compass, Walkie Talkies, Traditional Landline Phones, Alarm Clocks, Kitchen Timer, Paper Calendars, Daily/weekly Newspapers, Books, CDs, tapes, DVDs, etc.
Now I have a smartphone.
Malthus was the best partier ever!
"Should we do tequila shots and ride our horses of this cliff and see if we survive?"
Malthus "Yes, yes, excellent idea, all at once or one at a time?"
Also Malthus "Might I suggest blindfolds?"
Thanos was not right... he only did half the job
And he got a full smile.
You’re a fool and a fail if you think the best solution is for you and/or us to be eliminated.
In a way, I agree with projekt kobra, if you think you’re simply a parasite or that humanity isn’t ‘worthy’, then do your part and rid us(and the universe) of your pestilence.
Frankly, you shouldn’t presume to speak for humanity.
And when you come to your senses, buck up and grab a shovel. There’s plenty of work to do.
Envido32 less typing more cutting you mouthy failure.
He should of wiped out the religious population.
MonsterLopes threat to wildlife and pollutant detected.
Not going vegan, but I do desire to become self sufficient. You'd be surprised how easy that is to manage.
70% of the food we're growing on earth is going to the animals, because for us to eat them, they need obviously to be fed. But the farming is one of the worst climate killers. So how in the world is veganism not an option?! All the space that we're using to grow food just to get our meat on the plate once or twice a week could be used different. Less rain forests to burn down. Less tress which set free the CO2 they stored in the burning process. Smarter agriculture. Less animals abuse obviously?!
@@zUJ7EjVD I hope I understood everything correctly because English isn't my mothertounge.
So you're saying, that livestock (with which you mean intensive livestock farming? It's Massentierhaltung in German haha not sure if we're talking about the same thing) is NOT fed with biproducts.
But biproducts of what exactly? Of the soy production?
@@zUJ7EjVD oh boy, that translation didn't work at all haha, but thanks for the effort. To be honest, if I weren't born German, this language would be the LEAST I would want to learn. To what I heard german sounds horrible to people not having german as their main language 😂.
But back to topic: I understand what you're saying and in the end I think we are on the same page that the soy that's fed to the animals is not a biproduct of the "tofu soy". That doesn't change the fact that 70% of the food we are farming worldwide is used for livestock. But it doesn't have to be that way. If we would reduce the livestock farming or whatever it's called (I think you know what I mean) we could use the space for more sustainable farming or for whatever it's needed. The monoculture makes everything worse, because the fields are getting useless and more space is needed which leads to more destruction of nature.
I hope this was understandable😅
@@zUJ7EjVD Yeah you're right. I mean I am mostly vegan and I think that's the way, but in terms of convincing people one should probably start with "quit red meat, it's really dangerous for your health" "maybe eat meat a lot lesser" or smth.
I think spanish would be a good option, because it's the second world language and it sounds so beautiful. I had french in school for three veeeeeery long years D: enough is enough :'D
As always, great video! Thanks Joe. One thing very important to mention though is women empowerment and emancipation. The more women get access to education, the less kids they have. Without that it’s very hard to reduce birth rate.
I'm taking a economics class on this issue. It's super interesting, but looking historically, the o e thing humans are *really* good at is solving problems
Yeah, sure. The planet might be able to support 12 billion humans but at the expense of countless other species. The extinction rate due to habitat loss is just depressing.
Kudos Joe! This topic is perhaps the one most misunderstood by otherwise 'educated' people. Great that you are getting the word out. One thing you left out is the main driver of the drop in fertility rates: Female education. There appears to be an ironclad correlation between how many years of education a woman receives and how many children she has. As female education goes up in a country or continent, the birthrate declines, period. Virtually every developed country now has a birthrate at or below the 'replacement rate' of 2.1 children per woman. Julian Simon's smackdown of Erlich was epic. It would be hard to find someone that was more thoroughly wrong about essentially everything than Erlich was. Now we certainly have problems to work on going forward (i.e. Climate Change), but resource depletion and population explosion are not among them.
I hope you're right, but there could be one problem:
There only needs to be one population that goes against the trend (e.g. by not educating their women and using them as birth machines by tradition... maybe as an edict from "God") and you get exponential growth in that population and it will continue the problem and after a few generations take over the world by numbers. Exponential growth is powerful like that.
th-cam.com/video/2LyzBoHo5EI/w-d-xo.html - well explained video sharing why population will likely not reach 11 billion
I am concerned about loss of habitat for non-human animal species, and about our huge, mechanized consumption of sea creatures. I can't believe it will be all right for us to cause so many species extinctions without eventual consequences for our human way of life.
Female education? Maybe but birth control seems very important. the pill gives control over birth, both timing and numbers.
Wonderful comment and I agree. It is also a point that is not often mentioned, so it is good to see that here.
“They were options Thanos!”
The population will actually go down in the future when most countries are 5th world
What is that sound track playing in the back ground? Can I get a copy of that to study by? Please?
Joe Scott - TH-cam finally recommended this video to me. "The Club of Rome" was making headlines decades back when I was in college . . . a little later Dr. O'Neill wrote "The High Frontier: Human Colonies in Space". One of the things the people in giant space habitats will do will be to "eat" asteroids and comet, turn that into farmland, farm that, and sell food to people on Earth. Want to make a Ehrlich - Simon bet? Or course we will have to depend on "longevity escape velocity" because I'm guessing that will happen within sixty years or so.
My mom, sister, and sister in law had 4 kids, my other sister had 5 kids.
Is your family able to reproduce asexually or how do they find the time...?
I'd say they were either being very selfish, or else lacked enough education to stop at 2.
Nope, poor as dirt
11 (maternal) and 3 (paternal) for my grandparents. My parents generation stopped at three or four each. By and large 'my' generation only has one or two (although one cousin has cranked out eight).
Lol
It's all about energy. Once we have a source of abundant cheep clean energy we can grow crops in deserts, using vertical farming and other un-arable land. We can cheaply capture and sequester CO2 and stabilize the climate. We can use the energy to use some of that captured CO2 and water to create clean burning hydrocarbon fuels so we don't have to rely on batteries for everything. Use it to explore and mine space for the limited elements we start running out of on earth even though with cheap energy we could recycle a lot more of those than we do today. While solar, wind, hydro and to a larger extent geo-thermal can play a part, for the energy to be cheap and clean enough it will need to be nuclear, either fusion or fission with some serious upgrades, or you know infinity stones of course.
@@douganderson7002 You mean the current agricultural model is? I agree. What I'm saying is with enough cheep or free energy you can pretty well do whatever you want. Turn the Sahara green using desalination or run a 100 story aquaponics farm that runs on sewage if you want these technologies exist they are just too costly to run in terms of energy.
@@kylesvids One thing you can't and should not do is turn Sahara green. It has it's own huge problems.
Thorium was the right one and the idiots in charge made the wrong choice.
Obvious: No, Thanos wasn't right for killing all those people.
Less Obvious: The Avengers weren't right to bring them all back 5 years later. The second snap would have done just as much damage and caused just as much pain as the first.
XD
The avengers should have just let everyone be dead in the first place
Yeah sucks for everyone who was on an airplane
@@Dinoenthusiastguy You know, I wouldn't be concerned about those people. It seems as though the stones execute the intent of the bearer's wishes pretty faithfully. I imagine Bruce was smart enough to wish that everyone be bright back safely.
The problem is that the world would have largely moved on after 5 years. Governments and companies would have replaced key people by now. Homes and property would have been sold off years ago. Commodity markets would have adjusted to the lower population size. Millions and millions of people would starve due to the lack of market recourses.
It would be years of turn over all over again.
@@DallasMay That's a very good point - I hadn't really considered how the stones take the users' intents into account. I assumed based off the opening scene in far from home that bringing people back could have far more serious consequences than messing up a band performance, but I think you're right.
But yeah, totally agree with your main point, that would be a complete disaster.
@@DallasMay I like to believe that that's why the filmmakers did not delve deeper into the impact of the "decimation".
A couple of years ago, a group of farmers in Austria made a film called "Bauer Unser".
In the film, they explained how they could easily feed 12 billion people but are prevented from doing so by the deliberate policies of the banking cartel. They also reported that around one third of farm production is, literally, thrown away; again at the behest of the bankers.
It has been calculated that the state of Bavaria, in Germany, could easily feed the entire German population and all other farms could be closed down. Once again, the bankers prevent this happening.
So maybe not Thanos but Rockefeller, Carnegie, Morgan etc. should be the subject of your next investigation.
Blessed be
Karma Singh
But the down side of all that food production is soil degradation. The more we get from our crops the more the crops take from the soil. So as the population grows the amount of crops needed grows thus a vicious cycle. So in the end dosent that mean thanos is still right?!
There are alternatives like aquaponics and aeroponics, also fertilisation, plus whatever some kid currently at school will come up with in 10 years to feed everyone
Get used to seaweed it’s about to be the new ramen
Soil fertility is replenishable with organic processes.
Have you ever taken a shit in your life, and thought where it ends up? A slightest idea of how sustainable farming works?
Should have more subscribers
Our overconsumption is not rooted in our numbers, but in our unsustainable lifestyle and our economic philosophy (especially infinite growth).
If numbers aren't a problem, why cite infinite economic growth as the problem? Ultimately economic growth is linked to population. Hence why shrinking populations are linked to shrinking economies. Besides that, expecting everyone to live on a fraction of what they do now calls into question what you regard as "living". If you think that battery farms of people crammed into tiny spaces living off algae is life, then what is the purpose of intelligence in the first place? Are we individuals, or battery hens?
It’s both numbers and lifestyle.
@@hamsterminator *our* numbers. Not numbers in general.
There's also the bit where Thanos didn't just killed half of all intelligent beings.
He killed half of all LIFE.
The ecological impact of this would end up killing even more.
Just watched this video for the first time, but coincidentally I got snipped just a couple days after this was published. I'm doing my part!
Me too, bro. Me too. Not awful, but it's no walk in the park. In fact, I refuse to walk at all.
@@noneyabidness7226 The worst part was not knowing that he had to do a numbing shot for each side. I thought the worst part was over and halfway through he's like "okay, now we're going to give you a shot in the other side." RIP. Oh and he also asked if I wanted to see what the tube looked like while he was cutting and pulling away. I politely declined.
well done sir, well researched as usual
Joe you absolutely must do a video on how edible insects are going to save us.
There is something else to keep in mind. The population needs to keep growing to fuel the economy. In a declining rate less and less people keep working to sustain the older people. Also companies will get it harder if the consumer market dries up. So from an economic stance its bad to have growth flatten. In that case we need a whole new model.
Great comment about antibiotics, Joe. Someone once asked Woody Allen if he would rather live in the past were so many of his movies are set. He famously said (I’m paraphrasing) “yes, anytime after the invention of Novocaine.” Life on our past sparsely populated planet was short, painful, and brutal. Things are way better now, and with all of the challenges ahead I think the future will be even better - 12 billion included.
What they left out of the movie, what is integral to Thanos in the comics, is that he is in love with Death... like as an external, incarnate being... he considers Her his bride... incidentally, his name is very close to the Greek for Death... Thanatos
I would like to comment on the Everybody Needs To Go veganism viewpoint. At one point in my son's life he was allergic to basically everything that grows in the ground that we normally eat in the US. The top offenders on this list were wheat, corn, and soy. Soon after followed by peanuts and all tree nuts. This course includes almonds, which is used to replace wheat flour in a lot of cases. As a single parent I was overwhelmed with how to give my son basically any food whatsoever. It turns out there is a lot of alternatives to most of these products. Quinoa flour is just absolutely incredible. Avocado oil to cook food in is some sort of miracle in a bottle as far as I'm concerned. I say all of this to point out that even over the last few years, the Alternatives that he can eat have increased and have increased in quality. There are people in the industry working hard to replace corn and other products in some food. The same will happen on the vegan side of things. There will be advancements and Alternatives presented that will make the transition into veganism way easier then we think is possible now. It is hard for me to imagine life without meat. But a few years ago I had no idea how you can make crackers without wheat or corn. They do it every day.
Projekt Kobra a vegan dieet doesn’t taste like shit.. you only need to know how to make it tastefull
One of the problems of the Everyone Vegan idea is of course that it will lead to the extinction of at least one farm animal, the cow, which has no wild equivalent. After all, if it has no commercial value, farmers have no reason to keep it. And unlike the horse, which has limited value as a racing/recreation animal and survives as such, the cow is solely a farm animal. The fate of several other farm animals will be almost as dismal. Part of why I favour less absolutist ideologies, like Stoicism, which has no problems with any specific food per se.
Do any of you remember the movie Earth star Voyager from 1988. It was a Disney TV movie, that I remember being decent at the time. Anyhow, it was a semi dystopian future story about how pollution killed the Earth and Humanity was looking for a new home. they seem to be on a vegan diet and two of the young men that were about to go in the mission ordered a algae Burger. Or something to that effect, anyhow, it look disgusting and I think that was the idea. But that image and other images like that stick in our brain when most of us non-vegans think of total veganism. Just like there was a horrible commercial from one of the car companies that showed non eco-friendly car owners getting arrested. That is what the far-right actually believe is going to happen. It is not a smart idea to sell cars that way, or to promote veganism. Yes, I am aware that no one is going to get arrested for driving an SUV, it was just irritating that that's how a car company was selling Green Technology. Not a big fan of using fear in advertising.
Mark K. have you checked him with oats, far far superior to that newfangled wheat muck.
The population is still DEFINITELY a problem. To say it isn't because obesity rates are higher and whatnot is a silly argument. The oceans are filling up with plastic, the earth is warming faster and faster, local climates are shifting drastically, more and more species are going extinct at an exponential rate, natural habitats are being fragmented and destroyed, diseases like AIDS and cholera are ravaging Africa by the millions, ten thousand children die of starvation each day, scarce resources are being dug out of the ground and used up far faster than they are being replenished, clean drinking water is becoming a huge problem in arid poor regions of the world, wealth inequality is getting worse and worse as the world is becoming ruled by a global elite... I could go on and on. Yet Joe says none of this stuff is a problem because there are more fat people than there has ever been. Just silly.
India birth rate is now 2.1 and will keep falling than in 40 s start declining same for china and south east asia but we need to help african nations and not by murdering them but in controlling birth rates
FUN AND FURIOUS and education :) people has less time making kids if they get married at 28 instead of 18
@@simoc24 yes I agree if China and India can control population than we have hope for Africa also
We don't need to control their birth rates, that does not work. They refuse to use birth control messurements for obvious reasons.
I would highly encourage you to watch some presentations of Hans Rosling, his TED talks about Child mortality and religion in regards of population control is just on point.
@@JOhnDoe-nl4wj are you talking about Africa?
As someone pointed out: education is paramount. For example, there are people in Africa that truly believe that having unprotected sex with a virgin is the cure for AIDS.
Depends on which half you consider taking out... 😂
Along I'm not in it I am cool with it
I liked this video just for the segue to the sponsor spot at the end.
You need to go teach Linus @ Linus Tech Tips a thing or two about segues... he needs it!
The problem is most people don't want to reduce anything they do or have, think about it people pay 40k on a Rolex watch but want give a homeless person a meal, governments spend billions on the latest tech to kill but don't take care of the vetrons that spilt their blood in the field, I tell you I have lived a long time and seen more than most of the horrors that man capable of and I see nothing on a meaningful level that will do anything to change the path we are on.....
Sadly we have exceeded the possibility of using trees to reduce C0 2
We now have plants that remove co2 as much as an 80 acre rainforest
The most ethical solution is existential: let man explore space, let pharma combat radiation damage
A conservative coworker once said to me "the planet's resources are infinite, conservation is a scam." I don't have any hope for the human population.
You mentioned the fact that the birth rate and death rates were high, then the death rates lowered, leading to this population explosion, then the birth rates started to go down, stabilizing them, but I could foresee another problem over the horizon, once life extension technologies start lowering the death rate, leading to another population boom (or more like small trickle) as people are born at a slower rate, but the population isn't really going down anymore with not as many people dying so it leads to another exponential increase, albeit slower.
Great! I just watched Infinity War and really thought Thanos was on to something. But after watching your video, I am changing my oppinion. Overpopulation is not a problem. Overconsumption is. Briljant!
9:13 it has to be a *short*-term transition if we want to avoid climate catastrophe
Anything to avoid talking about a new distribution of resources..
Props to Joe for pointing out that "more people = more problems" is not the issue
More stupid people more problem
More smart people lest problem
@@douganderson7002 when a nation begins to be richer, the growth of population really becomes slower... So if you educate and let use their own resources to the nations who are poorer the growth will really slow down... It's true when they say we could imagine the world extinction before the end of capitalism... And no, noone is saying anything about communism. It's just letting anyone have the same rights to live freely and not being abused by corporations...
@@douganderson7002 "Yeah, global communism. What could go wrong. "
Communism isn't the problem. Corrupted Communism is the problem; as is ANY form of government when it's corrupted.
So singling out Communism doesn't make you look all too smart.
@@MistedMind Absolutely, just look at Trump's America for an example of corrupt democracy and corrupt capitalism. Though one might argue all capitalism is inherently corrupt, as it is all about the Individual putting themselves before the Group.
You and mattpat need to fight now
Haha that could be a fight for the ages! Would you watch it?
Aspect Science I know I would! 😂
9:17 look at the subtitles and it says 'one way to become one of those sharpest minds ISN'T skillshare
Thanos was an idiot, and the fact that none of the characters in the movies have taken the time to address how stupid and ineffectual his plan was tells me that, most likely, whoever came up with this plot point was stupid, too.
Thanks for advocating vegan/vegetarianism in a very sensible way
That was quite nice
No it is not, the amount of trendy 'superfoods' you need to ship or fly across the globe is unfeasible. Oh, and please you be the one that kindly informs all several million inhabitants of colder latitudes to relocate to more favorable areas with better temps suited to plant based agriculture. You will be lynched on the spot. Vegetarianism is fine, that's doable I guess but veganism is fashion based cultured garbage that is only made possible by our level of tech/markets that allow you to have anything that you want in a moment + pharma suplying your B12 meds. The SECOND that falls away...well it won't be vegans that are going to survive.
@@Wayoutthere I live in Sweden (56°N) and here, in the cold north, veganism is entirely possible without importing foodstuffs from across the globe! Sweden does import but it is not a necessity for an appealing vegan diet.
Plant-based is stupid.
@@nora22000 What isn't?
#ThanosDidntDoEnough Optimal Population is 1.5 Billion.
5:59 i didn't totally pull 'em out of my butt. 😂
Just for the record...the original Thanos killed out of love for the personification of death.....not population control. That would have taken care of the " options" you describe.
I just came from watching the five video series on Irelands Potato Famine from 'Extra History', and you when realise how similar some of the reasoning British politicians had behind not doing anything to help at least some of the 1.1 million people who died during the famine are to Thanos's reasoning, any logic in his arguments just fly out the window. Seriously, watch that video series, then ask yourself if the universe would be any more grateful to Thanos than Ireland was to England - ie severing ties between them forever.
Hans Rosling did a great presentation about this
seeing the amazon burning makes me think Thanos was right
Well, I got a vegan recipe that will turn king oyster mushrooms into a pretty decent slice of bacon. So anything's possible...
I have a vegan recipe that requires only a large pot and a small vegan.
I have always been skeptical of that vegan argument about how it takes 4 lb of grain to generate 1 lb of meat. The planet could support 12 billion people, but at a major sacrifice of quality of life and probably what we now in the West call individual freedom. A propaganda campaign to force/cajole humanity into veganism would have to be brutal. Is it really worth it, just to see how many butts can be packed onto the Earth? Just hope it does not come to that, or a massive die-off.
This video is the perfect example of watching it to the end. When the first population numbers came in I went right to write a comment. Then I thought, nah, let's wait 😂
Good video. Spot on.
I've been enjoying your series very much. I have a topic to suggest: The year 535AD volcanic event. Have you seen the PBS documentary on youtube with David Keys? Amazing story! And the most compelling example I know of nature affecting human civilization and history. Volcanos are much more likely to drastically affect humans than any other major natural event!
I don't think Thanos is evil at all. (Infinity War version, of course)
He's logical. He views the world through a more objective lens than most, putting his own family, happiness and well-being aside for the betterment of the universe.
The way I see this version of Thanos, he's an idealist and perhaps former pessimist who stepped up and decided to fix things himself.
That's
Messed up. Would you volunteer to be part of the half that goes away? Everyone always thinks it wont be them. But it would be.
Hes just a utilitarian
He's a madman. He didn't volunteer to die, he volunteered to do the killing.
If Thanos would be logical, he would know that a population explosion is pretty much a one time occurence. Something that is leading to a peak, followed by a decrease of population and stagnation. It's pretty simple. You have a badly developed society, where a lot of children are necessary due to many early death and culture where the young need to care for the elderly. Due to a change in factors like health care and wealth of a society, children stop dying at a young age, mothers stop dying at child birth. Since culture, laws, governments and social structure doesn't change at the same rate, people still get more children, especially with war in the mean time. So you get a massive population growth in a rather short amount of time. The end is inevitable. The changes in health care and wealth happened due to progress and they don't stop there, which is why the very same thing happened in every country of the world. Not at the same time, it happens delayed and in waves. First world, second world, third world. One after another.
Thanos is an idiot, who doesn't have a clue.
The idea that the universe could be overpopulated is silly and laughable. The solution is even more retarded
Im with Bill Burr. Lets blow up cruise ships. Just the right combo of types of ppl on cruise ships lol
Lmao, I’ve always agreed with Burrs ideas on “population control.”
The best form of population control is simply to make education and upward economic mobility more accessible to the masses. Once these things - luxuries which have historically been the exclusive purview of the elite - are democratized around the globe, people's natural ambitions will cause most of them to delay having children, thus producing smaller families, or they will forgo having children all together. Hence, to get at the root of the problem, rules have to be in place that make access to education and climbing the economic ladder a fairer game. Europe is the microcosm that proves this.
we can't forgo having children otherwise who will be working to pay taxes so that the retired people get social security, which is already a problem in America
If you halve someone's fertility rate by tripling their environmental footprint it is still a loss.
David did asked Walter of what he's truly concerned about the populations of humanity and rooms for the environment to live;
"Why are you in the colonization mission, Walter? Because they are dying species grasping for resurrection. They don't deserve to start again and I won't let them."
While not exactly the same issue as overpopulation, can you do a video on antinatalism? Please
Going back ten years I was pessimistic about the future. Now with the likes of renewable energy production cheap (already in many countries the cheapest form of energy), the new revolution in agriculture (GM, Hydroponics, Robotisation and so on) beginning, alternatives to crude oil feed stocks and the list goes on, I have become optimistic. The real issue is pollution and with cheap energy (from renewables) and a bit of will power this is not an issue. The real issue we are coming to is a society/political/economic change that is needed but we don't like change.
it's not the general population that doesn't like change... I've seen whole populations change over 3 generation, like you would not believe... take the 20th Century for instance, even the last 50 - 60 years.... the immense amount of change... people are willing to adapt new stuff when it is in their own self interests... the only ones who don't like change are the ones who control the purse strings of the economy... they don't like to see their control weaken... and with our society built on scarcity, the change to a post scarcity economy is not going to make them happy... their special status will evaporate...
But the change over the next couple of decades is comparable to the change over the last hundred years, in many ways greater.
agreed, and 15 or so years ago I came to the same conclusion as Ray Kurzweil... advancement in technology and society has gone off the linear rails and is now on an exponential curve, where by the year 2100, it will appear as if this century, for every decade, we will have advanced 100 years... equivalent to the last 1000 years... (to make that clearer, the first two decades of this century are equivalent of the years 1000 AD to 1200 AD; Ray Kurzweil's prediction of the Singularity, 2045 is equivalent to the invention of the printing press) one only has to look at the changes from 1869 (completion of the Trans Continental Railroad) to 1969 (landing on the Moon) and then from 1969 to 2019 to see the accelerating speed...
I know to some youngsters it doesn't seem like we have changed that much, but believe me when I say I feel like I am living in a Sci-Fi book or movie of the 50's or 60's... we take so much for granted... self opening doors, paying for meals at our seats with hand held debiting cards, signing for deliveries from Amazon on a touch screen, watching weather radar on our screens, gravity maps that tell us where minerals are, not just on Earth but on other Sol bodies... now we are looking at self driving cars, and a host of other technologies... even Data, the android is not beyond our capabilities... When Elon Musk's first 300 tons of cargo lands on Mars, there will be AI robots in the mix, whether vehicles or humanoid robots is to be seen, but that is a the least 4 - 6 years away... This century will produce many more surprises than we can ever imagine... it's going to be a wild ride... buckle up...
JP explain that, as I seem to be totally ignorant to your meaning.
Well, no, science maybe misused but it will also be the answer to many problems. Yes using growth hormones is terrible and it should be stopped as in the EU. The great thing about the up coming new revolution in agriculture is that it will make it far more sustainable. Far fewer chemicals and fertilizers will be required whilst production goes up. This will happen in many ways. For instance a robot can scan plants and see if they require any nutrients or been attacked by a particular pest, this actually done in many places already. A weed doesn't need to be sprayed just removed or burnt with a laser. The same for a pest or a diseased leaf on a crop. Better land management such as zero tillage, allowing better soil structure to build up. Hydroponics, aquaponics, genetics, artificial meats, better transportation of goods and so on. We can and will feed 10 billion people with a decent diet (if they choose it) and it will become far more sustainable. Actually hopefully I get the time and money to experiment with hydro & aquaponics in the next couple of years actually putting the plants under stress on purpose. This so the theory goes should increase the amount of flavour in fruits and veg.Medicine is about to go through a technical revolution driven largely by AI & machine learning. In my rather long and drawn out experience of health care I've found 25% of doctors really care and are doing their best for you. 50% well it's a well paying job and the other 25% are actively trying to kill you. Can't wait until the doctor I see is an AI.Water, well stopping misuse of water in agriculture will free up much water. Then comes renewables bringing in an age of cheaper energy. There will be over production of electricity, it's just you have to have extra for those times of peak demand (not talking about daily but longer time periods) that's great to pump water quickly and cheaply up to storage. Then this runs back down to the desalination plant that basically just requires the water to be under pressure. That Malthusian way of thinking is for the past, with renewables and technology we will move into a time of sustainable wealth available for all if society always it. With cheap energy resources become plentiful.
dude, when I die, I want to go the Thanos way - just disintegrate into heaven (hopefully) without pain. The thing with Thanos was that he did seem to be working towards what he thought was a greater good for man(alien) kind and not just a psychopathic blood lustful murderer like the typical Lex Luther character
... right? 😬
Yes. But Thanos's principle consultants were Professor
Beevis and Dr. Butthead. Basically,
the Thanos project was a scheme for these dudes to get girls.
"I don't feel so good mister Stark."
@Mike Yes, but that "human fabrication" is our source of hope.
Hitler & the Nazis also thought they were "working toward...greater good for mankind".
Stark, as a vain, greedy, drunk w/ power villain turned hero, knew the best idea was to get rid o/t obvious evil & let ev1 else learn fm their mistakes.
"Not feeling so good"
I like the idea of there still being diversity in the natural world and so far humans have been pretty good at wiping out other animals and this will get worse if we keep destroying natural habitat to fuel our way of life. I also notice that we seem to be building on a lot of the countryside in my part of the world (southern England) due to a housing shortage. A lot of the reason for this is population growth (added to by a lot of people coming to live here from abroad and other parts of the country) and that a lot more people live alone these days (me included so I am part of the problem). Our economic model is to blame for a lot of the excess consumption (look at how mobile phone contracts work for an example of this). So far we have proved very adaptable but I do think we are making the world a poorer place environmentaly and there is always the chance we will screw up big time at some point. I am such a cheerful soul.
Wanna do something about it? I have some solutions. But I can't do it alone.
So what kind of solutions do you have?
I believe that the developed countries are going to have to go into these other and try to make them livable again after all the wars and political unrest to stave off all the immigration that is over populating these developed countries like yours, Tthere has to be some limit to immigration because at some point it will become unlivable for the original inhabitants of these countries and unsubstainable economically to support all these additional people
Robert, there are solutions to everything. It's just that nobody cares to invest in what matters, because it's not profitabile. The greatest problem we have (it's not a problem any more, but a predicament now) is carbon. We have to scrub it out of our atmosphere or we're toast (literraly). I'm looking for smart people to help me in this matter. If You wish, we could talk about it. Just say.yey! :)
Hey Joe, can you do a video on food made of crickets? I know some people that make burgers and other things made of crickets, and it’s kind of a superfood with almost only advantages and no disadvantages.
My first words after seeing "Infinity War" ... Clearly Thonas has never had to mow the lawn...
A quote from movie The Matrix: "Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment; but you humans do not. Instead you multiply, and multiply, until every resource is consumed. The only way for you to survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern... a virus"
If human is a virus, then what is the coronavirus? Can I think of the coronavirus as part of the Earth's immune system, whose job is to cleanse the planet by getting rid of the real virus?
Bingo! The earth will kill us all. We know its going to happen, but do nothing to make any kind of big difference. We are the virus of earth, and when a cure comes, we will be nonexistent.
The earth is just a pile of rock. We are conscious and able to experience the world. We matter, not earth.
We will hit 8 billion Nov.02 2022. We passed the tipping point generations ago.
Veganism, nuclear container ships, renewable energy and EVs. Ok we now have a 50 billion person capacity.
We will likely just make lab grown meat instead of going vegan
Thezebraherd since lab grown meat requires more exogenic inputs and volume per calorie than meat does, no that would only be exchanging one problem for another. Lab grown meat is fantasy escapism. Veganism is a real, proven, and viable solution.
@@andrewjohnson6716 But it tastes like wood and straw. When vegan food tastes as good as meat I'll be vegan overnight. Until then, I'm having ribs.
@@EvieDoesTH-cam You may wish to try Impossible Burgers by Impossible foods or Beyond Burgers by Beyond Meat.
@@andrewjohnson6716 No it is not, the amount of trendy 'superfoods' you need to ship or fly across the globe is unfeasible. Oh, and please you be the one that kindly informs all several million inhabitants of colder latitudes to relocate to more favorable areas with better temps suited to plant based agriculture. You will be lynched on the spot. Vegetarianism is fine, that's doable I guess but veganism is fashion based cultured garbage that is only made possible by our level of tech/markets that allow you to have anything that you want in a moment + pharma suplying your B12 meds. The SECOND that falls away...well it won't be vegans that are going to survive.
@@Wayoutthere Wow, that is amazing. Every single one of those statements you just made is incorrect. that's quite an achievement.
An analogy to visualize a rate of doublings such as our population rise. Take a pro sports arena stadium with towing stands encircling it. Imagine the bowl is sealed watertight. Then it begins to rain. Let's say the rate is raindrops falling begins at 1 drop per second and doubles every second. It would take over 45 minutes to completely cover the arena floor with water. It takes another 9 minutes to fill the area with a foot of water. It takes another 5 minutes to fill the bowl almost 90% full, in just 2 more minutes the entire bowl is filled plus half of another. In another hour then entire earth is completely covered with water.
Pro Thanos, here. Actually gonna name my next dog "Thanos."
the best thing we can get is a stable and rich africa and middle east.
if all those millions of people would start developing dope tech to help the planet..
instead of running from bombs or searching for bread.. i can't imagine what kind of innovation we would see.
Way to generalise. Let's start using Mexico as a benchmark for North America! I hope North America gets it's shit together some day and becomes a continent of civilised people who don't try to escape into neighbouring countries all the time.
North america do need to get its shit together, but that is a totaly diffrent thing than saying the people in African have alot of unused potensial.
You fairly glossed over the impact on the natural world by referencing only the destruction of forests for arable land, they also do a little more than absorb CO2. The effects are far more acute and are worsening year on year. If the proposed solution to population growth is to raise the living standards of all third world nations (ideal in theory), the real question becomes can we do this without completely undermining the notion of an ecological balance. The average standard of living at the moment already requires 1.5 Earths to sustain it. Half of all wildlife has died off in the last 40 years. 83% of wild mammals are gone, 50% of plants. A study in Germany found a 76% decline in insect numbers over 27 years. Of all the mammals left on Earth, 96% are either human or livestock.
Yet ppl continue to have faith that a techno fix will come along any day now and solve the problem. Stripping bare the natural world and then referencing the glut of natural resources (mostly wasted) and grossly increased obesity rates as almost positive indicators is ludicrous. As is this idea that the more ppl we have the more likely a solution will be found. The problem seems to be that there are already solutions to the problems we face, at least in principle, just none that can be sold to a public fattened at the tit of the infinite growth paradigm. So instead we wait, letting the multitude of problems gather and grow on the not too distant horizon. Doesn't say much about us does it?
We're actually approaching a world without antibiotics.
They just discovered that the most common pencillin-resistant bacteria can be defeated by taking a combined treatment of pencillin and a different drug, which is already used for other diseases.
We might be able to save ourselves with bacteriophages. We really should've listened to Alexander Fleming when he warned us about antibiotics. Instead, I've seen people get their kids antibiotics for simple illnesses that they could easily fight off, and really need to fight off on their own. You're right, but there might be options. I'd prefer people stop abusing antibiotics, but we can't even convince antivaxxers, so... There's always hope I guess.
AI will help us stay ahead on antibiotic research. We'll be fine bro.
And Gene sequencing can helpus defete any microbes.
Thanos began his assault with six infinity stones: The Space Stone (blue), the Reality Stone (red), the Power Stone (purple), the Mind Stone (yellow), the Time Stone (green) and the Soul Stone (Amber). If you have all that power....... you could do a thousand things less damaging than to kill 50% of everything. You could, for instance, implant a natural equilibrium in the mating drives of all living things that calmed down when room became scarce. Many fish do that already.
11 billion is not sustainable. As the eleventh of 14 kids, I know poverty leads to abuse, anger, and depression. I got out but most don't. We are destroying the earth fast. I feel bad for my 2 grandkids.