@@no_alias_for_me It is Buddhist, also Christian, Hindu, Zen... It's a concept shared by enlightened people all over the world, who became (for better or worse) spiritual leaders. ;) Nowadays, Eckhart Tolle speaks about it brilliantly in his books.
In high school (I was 14 years old), I actually wrote a short story about a guy trying a time machine he built. He programs a date just a few minutes in the future, and dies embedded in a mountain. My teacher didn't fully understand the reasons why this happened, so he found my story only mildly interesting and I got a good, but not excellent, grade. :(
Yea, Lotta variables involved in time travel. Everything is moving in relation to something else. Your protagonist most likely would have wound up in the vacuum of space. Not a good way to go from what I understand. A friend of a friend told me.
Grandpa told my dad and he told me. It doesn’t matter what you know if you can’t communicate it to someone else. Not sure I agree but hey that’s what you think when you write procedures for a living 😂😂
@@YourMom-yw9rk I've heard that exact same thing quite a bit too. I think it was one of my friend's dads and he said "If you can't explain it to a little kid, then you don't really understand it"... My friend is in the process of becoming a middle school teacher - that might be part of the reason.
I suppose i kinda belong in the tenseless theory group, that time sorta don't exist. However, since i am paid by the hour, i usually keep quiet about it.
Same here, apart the paying part, I'm 16 and don't have a job yet but I still think in that way and didn't know that there's a group called the tenseless, thanks!
My mind easily wanders around and I struggle with anxiety... You help me to stay in the present. You do this by always giving me something interesting to think about right this second and it's more helpful than you can imagine and because you are interesting in the way that you are, you manage to keep my attention throughout the video, I don't even mind when you plug your t-shirts. Just I guess, thank you, all around for all the great information and for being something that can keep me from going crazy!
You can time travel to the future by moving slowly too. The less i do each day, the more days blur together and woosh, a week went by and i did nothing useful...again...
I’m absolutely loving your videos. I’ve been sending several links to my son. He’s only 12, but he’s incredibly eager to learn about higher-level topics, such as relativity. I really appreciate that you cover complex topics without coming across as pretentious or boring, and you have an ability to explain things that pretty much anyone that’s paying attention can understand. You are a gentleman and a scholar, sir. Thank you.
You've definitely raised your son well. Hope he's still fascinated by learning. I hated school and learning stuff I wasn't interested in in general. Never done any homework or revision for exams etc. Luckily for me I could retain what I was taught in class to a decent extent so when it came for final exams I scraped by with B's and C's which I was happy with. It's only been since I turned 23ish that I started to study science for the fun and joy of learning for the sake of it. I wonder sometimes with regret if I actually had this thirst for knowledge during my school years, whether I could have done better, went to university, and been in a different line of work. I'm a network engineer, which is still a good job, but always get those 'what if' moments. Sorry for my life story lol.
Wow, I have got to say that this video has really impacted me. I stumbled upon it while looking through my recommended and near the end where you said depression comes from living in the past and anxiety comes from living in the future where as happiness comes from living in the now really clicked for me. Thank you so much man and keep up your amazing work
"Depressions is living in the past and anxiety is living in the future" those are words of philosophical wisdom that are so true and an underrated statement in my eyes.
13:30 Thank you, for making this point. I can't exactly remember, at what point in my life I realized this fact, but it was really enlightening. Simple and logical. I also noticed, that not many people realize this simple fact and I'm always thrilled, when someone explains it.
Joe Scott I would say that Carnot laid the foundations for the second law. Carnot’s theorem was concerned with the maximum efficiency of any possible engine, but was theorised at a time when the obsolete caloric theory of heat (where heat was seen as a fluid moving from hot to cold bodies) was still being considered seriously. Carnot’s theorem (1824) came long before the first law of thermodynamics had been defined by Clausius in 1850. Clausius and Kelvin then went on to define their respective statements of the second law; Clausius’ Statement being defined in 1854 and Kelvin’s Statement being defined in 1851.
I so agree with you that we experience time as a proportion of our lives. This gives me comfort when I hear about the death of a child. To that child, they lived a lifetime.
It's so nice to hear a person who takes an example, an illustration, etc, and unpacks it into the real world. It takes a vivid imagination within the confines of Reason to do so effectively. As my name suggests, I'm a Christian preacher. Your point regarding ACTUAL time travel necessitating the involvement of radical space travel as well brought back some favorite memories! Instances when I tried to convey the radical implications of the following statement written by a man, John the apostle, who claimed to be an eyewitness to the event: "The sea [of Galilee] became rough because a strong wind was blowing. When they had rowed about three or four miles, they saw Jesus walking on the sea and coming near the boat, and they were frightened. But he said to them, "It is I; do not be afraid." Then they were glad to take him into the boat, and immediately the boat was at the land to which they were going." John 6:18-21 Everyone gets caught up in walking on water. Please don't misunderstand. That was still an amazing feat, impossible using any means of their time. But you and I have seen people walk. We've also seen the surface of a lake or ocean. Is it that difficult to juxtapose the two to imagine what that would KIND OF look like? The other feat is far more subtle, quite unassuming as mere words on a page, almost too simple allowing the reader to miss it over and over again. 1. The Sea of Galilee is about 8 miles at its widest, and 13 miles at its longest. The distance between the cities mentioned in the section (Tiberias and Capernaum) is about 6 miles; just over 5 if the starting point was north of Tiberias on the shore by the mountain. 2. The writer and many of the men on the boat were fishermen. Of that very sea. They knew exactly how far they had traveled, and how far they still had to go. Even if they had gone over half the distance, they still would've at least had a mile, if not two, still to go to reach shore. 3. The word translated "immediately" is in almost every instance in the New Testament rendered "immediately." If John had meant to say something like, "The trip then became 'super easy, barely an inconvenience,'" the Greek language can handle it. So if John's account actually occurred, not only did Jesus teleport himself, he teleported the people on the ship, AND the ship! This was done instantaneously rather than creepy tunnel Willy Wonka style. So instantaneously, in fact, the only thing perceptible to John was the change in surroundings, not the boat lurching or anything. For a few minutes, I tried to start calculating the cosmic distance he would've traveled over the given time, meaning he would've also had to compensate for different velocity at their destination. Then I realized the vectors wouldn't have changed at all, and if they did, it would've been infinitesimal, even locally, due to the word "immediately." "But that means He didn't travel through Time!" First off, you're correct. But realize what it does mean! Much like the episode "Stasis" in Tales from the Loop, he either stopped Time allowing the ship to travel in an instant, or he shortened the space between two spots. Or both. He controlled spacetime. Notice his words in John 8:58, after which they try to kill him for claiming to be God: "Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am." I love asking people what that means. Invariably: "Before Abraham was, Jesus was." Nope. You got the tenses, the contexts of Time wrong. Before Abraham existed in the past, Jesus EXISTS in the PRESENT. Moving a boat, or foretelling future events, or healing people from miles away are CRAZY easy for a being that IS everyWHERE and everyWHEN. All at the same time. Sounds like something 4+dimensional entering our meager 3rd dimension as we're propelled by that 4th dimension ourselves. We're in the lazy river of Time. Jesus created the river, and then got it moving. Great video, Joe! Had me brainstorming ALL DAY! 👍
That banana thing in reverse was trippy. As Joe "unchewed" the banana into bigger and bigger bits, the banana reassembled itself into a whole bite, at which point Joe spat it back onto the whole banana, which resorbed it. Such is the pervasiveness of entropy that it is mentally uncomfortable just to watch it run in reverse.
Perhaps. But I think you may be generalizing a little too much. Perhaps your incomfortability has more to do with watching someone spit up food than it has to do with entropy. I mean... crapping out food is following the laws of entropy too, would it make you uncomfortable to watch someone else do it? But I think I'd be perfectly comfortable watching an egg be unfried, so I dont think "entropy" is the deciding factor about what is "comfortable to watch" here.
I realized that one myself on hearing about a guy who claims he traveled back in time decades, as part of some military project. After just a few seconds wondering if that might be in some way possible, I realized how ridiculous this claim was. He' would have quickly died, in deep space, billions of miles away from Earth, in a part of space where the Earth would only arrive decades later.
Hi Joe, I watching this and the rest of your video with my son... We share the revelations and the headaches... Thank you for giving me the means to spend time with my son and connect with him... Love your works..
Yeah, but since that scene was filmed in one take, I'd say that wasn't the _only_ banana he ate. If he had to do several takes, then he was probably full up to his neck with bananas and couldn't stomach that last bite. _Ooor,_ he got it right the first time and he hates finishing bananas. 🤷🏼♀️
January 19, 2022 - Joe, I just watched and enjoyed you talking to me about 2.5 years ago! I’ve watched MOST of your videos and have to keep going to the past to enjoy more of your videos in my future! You are right, time IS hard to understand 😁
I got smug poisoning off that apology to the future thing. Dropped in to see if it was going to be a continuing trend and am glad to see this one is a bit more... watchable.
Yes, yes, YES! I started watching your videos again after a while of not watching them, hoping to get that awesome sense of learning about an idea or concept that absolutely blows my mind, and will permanently stick with me forever and thus forever change my perspective about the world around me. This video absolutely helped me get my fix, especially that idea of the universe stretching being what we perceive as the movement of time. That is insane because it makes so much sense.
It's still in the past as pausing the video, doesn't pause time. You're actually resuming your percieved reality of the now, as you pause the video, since the recording of Joe in the video, is just that. A recording. It's showing a Joe of the past and not of the present. As you're watching the video, your mind percieves that past as the now, as you are still in the now, but the video remains of the past. You'll first realize the awakening of that past as the video ends and you fully resume your percieved reality of the now.
In "the Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy" Ford Prefect said to Arthur Dent: "Time is an illusion; lunch-time doubly so!" I'm sticking with that explanation,..... at least for the next few years!! ;D
@҉ Most people do. Take a stroll through your city and look at people dining in the local cafés. Most of them are talking and eating on the same time. The eating part is merely because it would be a great thing to do while hanging out.
"Depression comes from living in the past, anxiety comes from living in tge future, and happiness comes from living now" Well What the fuck’s my brain doing when i’ve been dealing with depression and anxiety for years. My brain’s an overachiever
"There is a saying; Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift. That is why it is called the present." -Oogway, the humble turtle from Kung Fu Panda
I believe that each of us is born into world knowing everything and to begin choosing our direction in life to accomplish our true purpose. We will keep coming back over and over to accomplish this. I can hardly wait to see what happens. Because we are all still in the middle of it. Brightest Blessings.
You're older than you've ever been. And now you're even older. And now you're even older. And now you're even older. You're older than you've ever been. And now you're even older. And now you're older still. - They Might Be Giants
9:20 just remember that your standing, on a planet that's evolving, and revolving at 900 miles an hour. Its orbiting its reckoned 90 miles every second, the sun that is the source of all our power; And the sun, and you, and me, and all the stars that we can see, are moving at a million miiiiles a daaaay, in an outer spiral arm, at 40 thousand miles an hour, of the galaxy we call the milky way!
Thank you for bringing up the problem of traveling in time and the planet not being there. This has been one of my big issues with the concept of time travel, you need to travel in space as well as in time. Explained nicely. ;)
Yeah, except it wouldn't really work the way he says either because there is no universal reference frame. The surface of the Earth moves with respect to the core, the Earth as a whole moves with respect to the sun, the sun moves with respect to the galaxy, the galaxy moves with respect to the local group, the local group moves with respect to the Virgo Supercluster, the Virgo Supercluster moves with respect to the Laniakea Supercluster, the Laniakea Supercluster moves with respect to the CMB, the CMB moves with respect to everything outside the observable universe... There's no way to pick where that chain ends, so saying you'd end up somewhere else isn't actually any more accurate than saying you wouldn't move at all. It would really depend on how your time machine worked, if it worked at all.
@@danieljensen2626 I think we are saying the same thing. You would (in my mind) travel in time but remain 'local' in space. So the earth wouldn't be where you are.
@@pete2861 But local doesn't mean anything. Your time machine being tied to a specific location on Earth honestly makes more sense than it being tied to the sun or the center of the universe or something. But again, it all depends on how your time machine works.
@@danieljensen2626 'local' meaning you are not moving through space-time. the earth is moving through space-time. So when you time travel, if it were possible, you are not traveling through space, you are only traveling through time. So local means some specific non-changing position in space-time, not a geographical location on a body moving through it.
@@pete2861 That's the problem though, there's no such thing. Motion is relative, everything is both moving and not moving. If you're thinking of positions in space as a point on a graph with coordinates, stop doing that because it's impossible. You say that the Earth is moving through space-time, but that's a meaningless statement because you haven't specified what it's moving relative to. The Earth isn't moving at all relative to itself, and it isn't moving at all relative to us (unless of course you're driving or walking or something). There are no such things as universal fixed points in Space-time that travel only in time and not in space, it depends on your reference frame. And no reference frame is better than any other. If your reference frame is Earth, you'd stay on the Earth. If it's the sun, yes you'd be ahead or behind the Earth in it's orbit. But your reference frame could just as well be any cosmic ray shooting past the Earth, in which case you'd fly off in a random direction. Or your reference frame could be Elon's Roadster from the Falcon Heavy Launch. If you're thinking "well the Sun in the correct reference frame", stop thinking that, because it isn't. There's no such thing as a "correct" or "incorrect" reference frame. They're all equally valid.
9:10 But in steins gate they address this and come up with a solution of locking the time machine to the gravitational field of the earth, or something. So theres that.
ichibanalpha I’ve never seen that concept published anywhere but that is exactly what I’ve theorized as the only possibility to hold some relative positioning to the Earth. Though, I still would count in the spinning and tilt of the Earth which (if slipping between spacetime via wormhole) would most likely drop you either higher or lower in elevation from where you began oppose to where you reappeared.
Can it really be that in 7 months nobody realized that eating the banana was the tease he mentioned at the beginning of the video that he had never done before. ✲´*。.❄¨¯`*✲。❄。*。(๏̯͡๏) *✲´*。.❄¨¯`*✲。❄。*。¨¯`*✲
Didn't know Joe Scott quoting Lao Tzu "If you are depressed you are living in the past. If you are anxious you are living in the future. If you are happy you are living in the present..." Is something i needed right now. Thanks Joe...
Something that blows my mind is that from the Point of View of a Photon, time (and space) doesn't exist AT ALL. A photon is emitted from its source and absorbed at it's final destination, whatever and wherever that may be, *SIMULTANEOUSLY!* It may have traveled for TRILLIONS OF LIGHT YEARS from our non-relativistic perspective, but all that time and space it traveled through literally doesn't exist from its perspective.
@@visitorfromouterspacelooks4235 That's the whole point of general relativity, no? What you experience as reality is totally based on your reference frame, and there is by definition no absolute frame, so all Lorentz transformable frames are equally real. That may sound like I'm saying "reality is what you choose it to be!" in a woo-woo kind of way, but I'm not at all. observer *intent* has exactly zero effect. The only real you can alter your observational frame is by acceleration, deceleration, and/ vector change.
@@visitorfromouterspacelooks4235 okay man you need to stop confusing Einsteins theory of relativity with the man himself. His theory is rock solid. The man himself was a womanizing dickhole full of crazy ideas. Not to mention this is the guy who fought tooth and nail against quantum physics. So I suspect this quote about "objective reality" was ripped out of context from a debate with bohr or something.
"Depression comes from living in the past, anxiety comes from living in the future and happiness comes from living right now" Joe, you blow my mind! Which is great because videos like these usually cause both... Thanks for the mindfulness!
The relational nature of how we experience time Is not about how old we are, but how fast our brain is making memories. You make a lot more memories, encoding information as a matter of cognitive development, when you are younger. That’s the same reason why “time slows down” in moments of stress, you are making more memories, encoding information at a high rate, so that you have the most information to make decisions as quickly as possible. This also explains why traumatic distress can be an outcome of extremely stressful situations, because you have encoded lots of information into memory of that stressful moment.
From Slaughterhouse Five: _"All moments, past, present and future, always have existed, always will exist. The Tralfamadorians can look at all the different moments just that way we can look at a stretch of the Rocky Mountains, for instance. They can see how permanent all the moments are, and they can look at any moment that interests them. It is just an illusion we have here on Earth that one moment follows another one, like beads on a string, and that once a moment is gone it is gone forever."_
“Present time” is relative to those who are born to experience it. Just because I’m alive right now and experiencing the “present time” does not mean a person living in the 1800’s did not experience “present time” for they did too. We are just flowing through a timeline that is already “written” and is up to our actions how the future will become. We cannot avoid our death. It’s inevitable which is one of the facts for time to be already established with a set of coordinates. It’s very intriguing.
The show Travellers deal with distance. They can only travel back as far as CCTV and GPS records so they have a location fix with an accurate date, time and location.
Its crazy because no matter what we are always living in the past... even if you're standing right next to someone, it still takes that billionth of a second for the light to reach your eyes... so we never truly experience the moment as it truly is... we always live just slightly in the past...
Talk of equalibria, I have two devices with youtube simultaneously playing this video. Not wierd at all. Luv u and your emotional intelligence+ sublime comic timing. More Joe please!
For anyone interested, I strongly suggest reading "The Order of Time" (audiobook by Benedict Cumberbatch). As far as I understand, the B-theory of time makes the most sense.
In a way, it is impossible to live in "the now". Each of us is living in both the past and the future at the same time. Everything you see, hear, feel, and taste takes time to travel and be processed by the brain. When we see a bird, it took time for that light to reach the eye, the signal from the eye took time to travel to the brain and finally be processed. The same happens if we stub our toe, it takes time for the nerves to transmit that signal to the brain. The same goes for taste and hearing. Even if only by a tiny fraction of a second, our brain is experiencing the past. Our consciousness, from the body's viewpoint is living in the past, and because our body is experiencing things that our consciousness has yet to experience, it exists in the future. Basically, we're living in the past, the future, and two separate nows.
You really pulled off that banana part extremely well. What you were saying matched up with your movements so perfectly. As long as I didn't look at your mouth moving (or the banana), I'd probably have been convinced there was nothing amiss. Well done. :)
Dear Gabriela, you don't have OCD, you're just picky. Sincerely, someone who has actual professionally diagnosed OCD whose room is in a constant state of chaos.
“And you run, and you run to catch up with the sun But it's sinking Racing around to come up behind you again The sun is the same in a relative way But you're older Shorter of breath, and one day closer to death” - Pink Floyd
NO. It is relative. Hence the name of the Special and General Theories of RELATIVITY. Meaning, essentially everything is relative to something else. It is a real, measurable, demonstrable thing. In fact we would not have GPS satellites and accurate mapping if we did not understand it, and so account for the error or discrepancy. The closer to a mass, the slower time passes, or a clock ticks. The faster one is moving relative to another object, the slower the time passes as recorded from each location. It can take some getting used to and understanding. But this IS a real thing and apparently how out Universe actually works. Nature and the real world has no obligation, or owes us no explanation for how shit is. It is up to us to work it out and accept that is how it seems to be.
"Depression comes from living in the past, anxiety comes from living in the future and happiness comes from living right now" Joe, you blow my mind!
Isn't that a buddhistic saying?
I love this theory!
@@no_alias_for_me It is Buddhist, also Christian, Hindu, Zen... It's a concept shared by enlightened people all over the world, who became (for better or worse) spiritual leaders. ;)
Nowadays, Eckhart Tolle speaks about it brilliantly in his books.
I guess that's why meditation attempts to get you to focus on the the present moment.
I have anxiety and depression lmao.
This video came out just in time!
I'll show myself out thank you...
And the pun wins the day.
jeez...brilliant
but where did the Babylonians get their knowledge??
😂😂😂
I'm get your coat
Video Joe Scott made in 2019 after watching Tenet in 2020
Underappreciated comment.
I went to upvote this comment, only to discover I already had. Yet I have no recollection of doing so. 😳
Much more entertaining than Tenet though
BRILLIANT!!!
That movie still hurts my brain
In high school (I was 14 years old), I actually wrote a short story about a guy trying a time machine he built. He programs a date just a few minutes in the future, and dies embedded in a mountain. My teacher didn't fully understand the reasons why this happened, so he found my story only mildly interesting and I got a good, but not excellent, grade. :(
Yea, Lotta variables involved in time travel. Everything is moving in relation to something else. Your protagonist most likely would have wound up in the vacuum of space. Not a good way to go from what I understand. A friend of a friend told me.
I always wondered what would happen if you went back in time to the instant before you jumped back in time.
How old are you now?
We don’t fully understand either because you never explained it
@@thewayiseeit01123 Over 45! 😅
"If no one asks me, I know what it is. If I try to explain it to he who asks, I don't know"... I feel like that about a lot of things.
Grandpa told my dad and he told me. It doesn’t matter what you know if you can’t communicate it to someone else. Not sure I agree but hey that’s what you think when you write procedures for a living 😂😂
@@YourMom-yw9rk I've heard that exact same thing quite a bit too. I think it was one of my friend's dads and he said "If you can't explain it to a little kid, then you don't really understand it"... My friend is in the process of becoming a middle school teacher - that might be part of the reason.
I don’t have time this stuff!
Joe's Main Cam: 'Yeah he has his life together. All organized.'
Tangent Cam: 'lol you thought'
I read this as this transition to a tangent cam happened in my watch through
I suppose i kinda belong in the tenseless theory group, that time sorta don't exist. However, since
i am paid by the hour, i usually keep quiet about it.
Have you read any of Julian Barbour's claims on time?
Or Lee Smolin's?
Same here, apart the paying part, I'm 16 and don't have a job yet but I still think in that way and didn't know that there's a group called the tenseless, thanks!
Unless someone can prove me wrong:
Time was invented by people who charge interest.
That sounds like something Terry Pratchett would say.
@John Cray here's the link
www.google.com
oh my god
Wow that's deep
Absolutely true! Tax is the same!
Seems very much like what they showed in "Tenet".
Your ahead of your time Joe!
"Time is what keeps everything from happening at once.'" - Ray Cummings 1922
Heheheh.. Cummings..
@@TH-xo4zx Not just Cummings. Ray Cummings. He was probably a storm trooper or something.
Who says everything isn't happening all at once but we just perceive it as linear...🤯
Wow
@@NeorecnamorceN Life inside a singularity, seeing itself as the result of a big bang.
What do we want? TIME TRAVEL!
When do we want it? IT'S IRRELEVANT!
HA! Good one!
Nice one
Where do we want it? THAT'S A COMPLICATED QUESTION WITH A LOT OF MATH INVOLVED
Teslanomics with Ben Sullins I remember seeing this on redit the day I first went on it
This joke was the only good thing in Terminator Genisys.
My mind easily wanders around and I struggle with anxiety... You help me to stay in the present. You do this by always giving me something interesting to think about right this second and it's more helpful than you can imagine and because you are interesting in the way that you are, you manage to keep my attention throughout the video, I don't even mind when you plug your t-shirts. Just I guess, thank you, all around for all the great information and for being something that can keep me from going crazy!
Adhd
@@johnmcm7690 I have a very over active imagination and ocd
You can time travel to the future by moving slowly too. The less i do each day, the more days blur together and woosh, a week went by and i did nothing useful...again...
Yea, I have to will myself to take a piss. My life is a dumpster fire.
I’m absolutely loving your videos. I’ve been sending several links to my son. He’s only 12, but he’s incredibly eager to learn about higher-level topics, such as relativity. I really appreciate that you cover complex topics without coming across as pretentious or boring, and you have an ability to explain things that pretty much anyone that’s paying attention can understand. You are a gentleman and a scholar, sir. Thank you.
You've definitely raised your son well. Hope he's still fascinated by learning. I hated school and learning stuff I wasn't interested in in general. Never done any homework or revision for exams etc. Luckily for me I could retain what I was taught in class to a decent extent so when it came for final exams I scraped by with B's and C's which I was happy with. It's only been since I turned 23ish that I started to study science for the fun and joy of learning for the sake of it. I wonder sometimes with regret if I actually had this thirst for knowledge during my school years, whether I could have done better, went to university, and been in a different line of work. I'm a network engineer, which is still a good job, but always get those 'what if' moments. Sorry for my life story lol.
Wow, I have got to say that this video has really impacted me. I stumbled upon it while looking through my recommended and near the end where you said depression comes from living in the past and anxiety comes from living in the future where as happiness comes from living in the now really clicked for me. Thank you so much man and keep up your amazing work
i saw this video pop up, and thought to myself "it's about time!"
fucking hell you deserve that like here you go
Only for the time being :-B
LOL !!!!!
noice
@@freedomcounty6736 what?
Thank god there's a logical explanation for the random banana eating, for a second there I thought you were gonna move right along LOL
Good thing he didn't show it coming out the other end.
@@freedomcounty6736 What
@@xenan7889 WHAT UP!!! JAWL HURR??? BOP!!! TIME IS A LIBERAL ATHEIST CONSPIRACY!!! LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE!!! ITS ALL THEIR!!!
Gotta Love those Banana Sandwich's with Black pepper and mayonnaise. Or the Elvis Deluxe with Bacon & Honey & Peanut butter fried in a buttered pan
@@freedomcounty6736 Republicans have such amazing intelligence, stop flexing your chromosomes man
"Depressions is living in the past and anxiety is living in the future" those are words of philosophical wisdom that are so true and an underrated statement in my eyes.
13:30 Thank you, for making this point. I can't exactly remember, at what point in my life I realized this fact, but it was really enlightening. Simple and logical. I also noticed, that not many people realize this simple fact and I'm always thrilled, when someone explains it.
I don't think Newton had anything to do with the second law of thermodynamics
Yes, Carnot should have been credited.
@@joescott Cool thanks for the response!
Joe Scott I would say that Carnot laid the foundations for the second law. Carnot’s theorem was concerned with the maximum efficiency of any possible engine, but was theorised at a time when the obsolete caloric theory of heat (where heat was seen as a fluid moving from hot to cold bodies) was still being considered seriously. Carnot’s theorem (1824) came long before the first law of thermodynamics had been defined by Clausius in 1850. Clausius and Kelvin then went on to define their respective statements of the second law; Clausius’ Statement being defined in 1854 and Kelvin’s Statement being defined in 1851.
To be fair, he did have a second law... . But the second law of thermodynamics is: "You don't talk about thermodynamics" - Tyler Durden.
Tell this to atoms, once constituting Newtons body.
I so agree with you that we experience time as a proportion of our lives. This gives me comfort when I hear about the death of a child. To that child, they lived a lifetime.
I'm so glad I watched this rather than just listening to it like I normally do.
Lmao same he’s hilariously good
I'm glad the banana escaped certain demise.
You ate a banana, then an ananab ate you.
...in soviet russia...
Should it not be “you ate a banana, then: ?uoy eta ananab a”
Lol
Superb observation!
You ate banana then you throw up ananab...
Banana for scale!
It's so nice to hear a person who takes an example, an illustration, etc, and unpacks it into the real world. It takes a vivid imagination within the confines of Reason to do so effectively. As my name suggests, I'm a Christian preacher. Your point regarding ACTUAL time travel necessitating the involvement of radical space travel as well brought back some favorite memories! Instances when I tried to convey the radical implications of the following statement written by a man, John the apostle, who claimed to be an eyewitness to the event:
"The sea [of Galilee] became rough because a strong wind was blowing. When they had rowed about three or four miles, they saw Jesus walking on the sea and coming near the boat, and they were frightened. But he said to them, "It is I; do not be afraid." Then they were glad to take him into the boat, and immediately the boat was at the land to which they were going."
John 6:18-21
Everyone gets caught up in walking on water. Please don't misunderstand. That was still an amazing feat, impossible using any means of their time. But you and I have seen people walk. We've also seen the surface of a lake or ocean. Is it that difficult to juxtapose the two to imagine what that would KIND OF look like? The other feat is far more subtle, quite unassuming as mere words on a page, almost too simple allowing the reader to miss it over and over again.
1. The Sea of Galilee is about 8 miles at its widest, and 13 miles at its longest. The distance between the cities mentioned in the section (Tiberias and Capernaum) is about 6 miles; just over 5 if the starting point was north of Tiberias on the shore by the mountain.
2. The writer and many of the men on the boat were fishermen. Of that very sea. They knew exactly how far they had traveled, and how far they still had to go. Even if they had gone over half the distance, they still would've at least had a mile, if not two, still to go to reach shore.
3. The word translated "immediately" is in almost every instance in the New Testament rendered "immediately." If John had meant to say something like, "The trip then became 'super easy, barely an inconvenience,'" the Greek language can handle it.
So if John's account actually occurred, not only did Jesus teleport himself, he teleported the people on the ship, AND the ship! This was done instantaneously rather than creepy tunnel Willy Wonka style. So instantaneously, in fact, the only thing perceptible to John was the change in surroundings, not the boat lurching or anything.
For a few minutes, I tried to start calculating the cosmic distance he would've traveled over the given time, meaning he would've also had to compensate for different velocity at their destination. Then I realized the vectors wouldn't have changed at all, and if they did, it would've been infinitesimal, even locally, due to the word "immediately."
"But that means He didn't travel through Time!" First off, you're correct. But realize what it does mean! Much like the episode "Stasis" in Tales from the Loop, he either stopped Time allowing the ship to travel in an instant, or he shortened the space between two spots. Or both. He controlled spacetime.
Notice his words in John 8:58, after which they try to kill him for claiming to be God: "Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am."
I love asking people what that means. Invariably: "Before Abraham was, Jesus was."
Nope. You got the tenses, the contexts of Time wrong.
Before Abraham existed in the past, Jesus EXISTS in the PRESENT.
Moving a boat, or foretelling future events, or healing people from miles away are CRAZY easy for a being that IS everyWHERE and everyWHEN. All at the same time. Sounds like something 4+dimensional entering our meager 3rd dimension as we're propelled by that 4th dimension ourselves. We're in the lazy river of Time. Jesus created the river, and then got it moving.
Great video, Joe! Had me brainstorming ALL DAY! 👍
That banana thing in reverse was trippy. As Joe "unchewed" the banana into bigger and bigger bits, the banana reassembled itself into a whole bite, at which point Joe spat it back onto the whole banana, which resorbed it. Such is the pervasiveness of entropy that it is mentally uncomfortable just to watch it run in reverse.
Perhaps. But I think you may be generalizing a little too much. Perhaps your incomfortability has more to do with watching someone spit up food than it has to do with entropy.
I mean... crapping out food is following the laws of entropy too, would it make you uncomfortable to watch someone else do it? But I think I'd be perfectly comfortable watching an egg be unfried, so I dont think "entropy" is the deciding factor about what is "comfortable to watch" here.
Brilliant point raised on how when you travel back in time, you need to also travel back in space. Awesome explanation!
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I realized that one myself on hearing about a guy who claims he traveled back in time decades, as part of some military project.
After just a few seconds wondering if that might be in some way possible, I realized how ridiculous this claim was. He' would have quickly died, in deep space, billions of miles away from Earth, in a part of space where the Earth would only arrive decades later.
Hi Joe, I watching this and the rest of your video with my son... We share the revelations and the headaches... Thank you for giving me the means to spend time with my son and connect with him... Love your works..
Not finishing the banana bothered me more than it should have.
Great video.
Yeah, but since that scene was filmed in one take, I'd say that wasn't the _only_ banana he ate. If he had to do several takes, then he was probably full up to his neck with bananas and couldn't stomach that last bite.
_Ooor,_ he got it right the first time and he hates finishing bananas. 🤷🏼♀️
"Daddy ... Where do bananas come from?”
‘Er ... Joe Scott’s mouth.'
January 19, 2022 - Joe, I just watched and enjoyed you talking to me about 2.5 years ago! I’ve watched MOST of your videos and have to keep going to the past to enjoy more of your videos in my future! You are right, time IS hard to understand 😁
Yesterday Joe: No one thinks about the people in 200 years!!
Today Joe: The only time that matters is right now
:P
Beautiful
I got smug poisoning off that apology to the future thing. Dropped in to see if it was going to be a continuing trend and am glad to see this one is a bit more... watchable.
It's like he's about to do an inspirational TED talk.
Yesterday Joe doesn't matter. You know what comes from living in the past? Depression!
@@MIck-M We get it, you don't care about the future.
What time is it? "Now or when you asked me"?
Yes, yes, YES! I started watching your videos again after a while of not watching them, hoping to get that awesome sense of learning about an idea or concept that absolutely blows my mind, and will permanently stick with me forever and thus forever change my perspective about the world around me.
This video absolutely helped me get my fix, especially that idea of the universe stretching being what we perceive as the movement of time. That is insane because it makes so much sense.
I've got to try and explain this to my boss... "I'm not REALLY an hour late boss!"
This is the real reason why moms say don't talk with your mouth full... You might go back in time and end up at the center of Earth's core. 🤣
Bosses get very anti-philosophical when you try this.
Thoughts on if entropy can be a reliable measure of time?
It seems to just 'measure information backward'.
@@joescott yes. yes they do.
Dude that's too funny. Totally something I would do.
"Ironically by the time you've even processed that very moment, it's already in the past."
Joke's on you - I paused the video!!
It's still in the past as pausing the video, doesn't pause time. You're actually resuming your percieved reality of the now, as you pause the video, since the recording of Joe in the video, is just that. A recording. It's showing a Joe of the past and not of the present. As you're watching the video, your mind percieves that past as the now, as you are still in the now, but the video remains of the past. You'll first realize the awakening of that past as the video ends and you fully resume your percieved reality of the now.
@@Arterexius Eh, I feel like this comment is in the past. Never look back, it distracts from the now.
@@davidbjacobs3598 Haha, well it truly is in the past, but how will you learn in the now, if you never look back?
@@Arterexius I make exceptions for Incredibles quotes. That should be enough.
@@Arterexius whoooosh
In "the Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy" Ford Prefect said to Arthur Dent: "Time is an illusion; lunch-time doubly so!" I'm sticking with that explanation,..... at least for the next few years!! ;D
How many times did you draw up that time reversal scene before you decided on the banana?
HighFlyActionGuy ded lololol
@҉ I think it was clutch. Without using a prop it would have been harder to see and understand exactly what he meant as time moved backward.
@҉ Most people do. Take a stroll through your city and look at people dining in the local cafés. Most of them are talking and eating on the same time. The eating part is merely because it would be a great thing to do while hanging out.
"Depression comes from living in the past, anxiety comes from living in tge future, and happiness comes from living now"
Well What the fuck’s my brain doing when i’ve been dealing with depression and anxiety for years.
My brain’s an overachiever
Think Robin Williams.
Millennial problems lol
Thank you! You're the only person I've ever heard have that evaluation of time travel and physical displacement. :D
It does give on explanation as to why we have not seen time travellers from the future yet. They keep missing.
What is Time?
Baby don't hurt me...
Don't hurt me...
No more.
Reminds me of that scene in black panther
Damn, I came here (too late) to write the very exact same thing! 😅 Guess Time just hurt me again 😄
i only wish they let Andy Serkis do a full cover of that song in Black Panther.
Wait a minute, did you just grab my ass?
Lol love it ....
"There is a saying; Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift. That is why it is called the present." -Oogway, the humble turtle from Kung Fu Panda
Works only in English.
There is also a saying "Life is like a roll of toilet paper. The close you get to the end, the faster it goes." - my 7th grade science teacher.
You quoted a f**king cartoon get f**king real
@Allison VP That is correct but it's spelled "presente"
I believe that each of us is born into world knowing everything and to begin choosing our direction in life to accomplish our true purpose. We will keep coming back over and over to accomplish this. I can hardly wait to see what happens. Because we are all still in the middle of it.
Brightest Blessings.
You're older than you've ever been.
And now you're even older.
And now you're even older.
And now you're even older.
You're older than you've ever been.
And now you're even older.
And now you're older still.
- They Might Be Giants
Not to put too fine a point on it...
I am older than I ever intended to be.
I read your comment from Bottom to top... Still checks out.
And younger than you shall ever be.
No kidding
You consistently expand the minds of all your viewership. Kudos!
I agree! Big African Antelopes to you, Joe!!
**expanding minds** classic entropy in action. 🤔
Joe you are simply genius!
I really liked the backwards video and how you're hand gestures were so almost on que and definitely appropriate.
So good.
heck yeah, time to have an existential crisis before bed!
right on shedule
WOOOOO 😂
It's the best....time
Loved the video as always, but... Mouth sounds from the banana...*shudders*
Yeah that was a bit of a gamble. If it wasn't Joe I would have jumped ship a second before the first bite.
weirdo
Yea. I couldn’t make it through.
Yup. Gross. 🤮
I stuck with it as I assumed he was doing it for a reason...because why else would the dude be eating a banana while talking and making a video?!
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just remember that your standing, on a planet that's evolving, and revolving at 900 miles an hour. Its orbiting its reckoned 90 miles every second, the sun that is the source of all our power; And the sun, and you, and me, and all the stars that we can see, are moving at a million miiiiles a daaaay, in an outer spiral arm, at 40 thousand miles an hour, of the galaxy we call the milky way!
One of my favorite songs!
Thank Eric Idle.....
Almost perfect. "It's orbiting at 90 miles a second, so it's reckoned"
Thank you for bringing up the problem of traveling in time and the planet not being there. This has been one of my big issues with the concept of time travel, you need to travel in space as well as in time. Explained nicely. ;)
Yeah, except it wouldn't really work the way he says either because there is no universal reference frame. The surface of the Earth moves with respect to the core, the Earth as a whole moves with respect to the sun, the sun moves with respect to the galaxy, the galaxy moves with respect to the local group, the local group moves with respect to the Virgo Supercluster, the Virgo Supercluster moves with respect to the Laniakea Supercluster, the Laniakea Supercluster moves with respect to the CMB, the CMB moves with respect to everything outside the observable universe...
There's no way to pick where that chain ends, so saying you'd end up somewhere else isn't actually any more accurate than saying you wouldn't move at all. It would really depend on how your time machine worked, if it worked at all.
@@danieljensen2626 I think we are saying the same thing. You would (in my mind) travel in time but remain 'local' in space. So the earth wouldn't be where you are.
@@pete2861 But local doesn't mean anything. Your time machine being tied to a specific location on Earth honestly makes more sense than it being tied to the sun or the center of the universe or something. But again, it all depends on how your time machine works.
@@danieljensen2626 'local' meaning you are not moving through space-time. the earth is moving through space-time. So when you time travel, if it were possible, you are not traveling through space, you are only traveling through time. So local means some specific non-changing position in space-time, not a geographical location on a body moving through it.
@@pete2861 That's the problem though, there's no such thing. Motion is relative, everything is both moving and not moving. If you're thinking of positions in space as a point on a graph with coordinates, stop doing that because it's impossible. You say that the Earth is moving through space-time, but that's a meaningless statement because you haven't specified what it's moving relative to. The Earth isn't moving at all relative to itself, and it isn't moving at all relative to us (unless of course you're driving or walking or something).
There are no such things as universal fixed points in Space-time that travel only in time and not in space, it depends on your reference frame. And no reference frame is better than any other. If your reference frame is Earth, you'd stay on the Earth. If it's the sun, yes you'd be ahead or behind the Earth in it's orbit. But your reference frame could just as well be any cosmic ray shooting past the Earth, in which case you'd fly off in a random direction. Or your reference frame could be Elon's Roadster from the Falcon Heavy Launch.
If you're thinking "well the Sun in the correct reference frame", stop thinking that, because it isn't. There's no such thing as a "correct" or "incorrect" reference frame. They're all equally valid.
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But in steins gate they address this and come up with a solution of locking the time machine to the gravitational field of the earth, or something. So theres that.
ichibanalpha I’ve never seen that concept published anywhere but that is exactly what I’ve theorized as the only possibility to hold some relative positioning to the Earth.
Though, I still would count in the spinning and tilt of the Earth which (if slipping between spacetime via wormhole) would most likely drop you either higher or lower in elevation from where you began oppose to where you reappeared.
Love that quote u said there... about depression and anxiety... perfect
The thing we've never seen Joe do before: eat a banana and then vomit it back together. 🍌
Yeah, I was wondering why he was eating a banana, and figured he was going to eat it in reverse. I anticipated the future past!
Jan Hemstad Ah, THAT’s why the video didn’t match the audio!
@@stvp68 I think it did though
Joe please never do this again XD
Am I a bad person if it turned me on? 😎
Joe: *peels a banana *
Me: Is this science related?
hahaha yess!!
Idk but it might be bc bananas produce anti matter
Can it really be that in 7 months nobody realized that eating the banana was the tease he mentioned at the beginning of the video that he had never done before. ✲´*。.❄¨¯`*✲。❄。*。(๏̯͡๏) *✲´*。.❄¨¯`*✲。❄。*。¨¯`*✲
The final part about living in the perpetual moment is one of the smartest things I’ve heard. Great way of putting it!
“Now” is a gift. That’s why we call it the “present” :-)
Cringe
Ah yes, Kung Fu turtle.
Only in english, sorry
the banana bit reminded me of the red dwarf episode "Backwards"!
Anybody else see that scene from Spaceballs playing in their mind while Joe was talking??
"When will then be now?"
"Soon..."
The past is history, the future is a mystery, but today is a gift. That is why we call it the present. ~ Master Oogway
Perfect
I really love your channel.. I have seen all your videos and i even re-watch them all the time
Sumit Kapoor ditto!
Didn't know Joe Scott quoting Lao Tzu
"If you are depressed you are living in the past.
If you are anxious you are living in the future.
If you are happy you are living in the present..."
Is something i needed right now.
Thanks Joe...
"Hey yall, Texan Vsauce here!"
Your intro reminded me of their intros they used to do.
Nathaniel Pool when did he say taht
Depression comes from living in the past
Anxiety comes from living in the future
But happiness comes from living right now
~someone in history
I love how he's just *extruding* banana.
Outstanding! This was one of my favorite videos. You did a terrific job explaining and portraying a theory of time travel. Great job sir
Something that blows my mind is that from the Point of View of a Photon, time (and space) doesn't exist AT ALL. A photon is emitted from its source and absorbed at it's final destination, whatever and wherever that may be, *SIMULTANEOUSLY!* It may have traveled for TRILLIONS OF LIGHT YEARS from our non-relativistic perspective, but all that time and space it traveled through literally doesn't exist from its perspective.
@@visitorfromouterspacelooks4235 That's the whole point of general relativity, no? What you experience as reality is totally based on your reference frame, and there is by definition no absolute frame, so all Lorentz transformable frames are equally real. That may sound like I'm saying "reality is what you choose it to be!" in a woo-woo kind of way, but I'm not at all. observer *intent* has exactly zero effect. The only real you can alter your observational frame is by acceleration, deceleration, and/ vector change.
An eternity could pass between each moment and we could never know it.
@@visitorfromouterspacelooks4235 okay man you need to stop confusing Einsteins theory of relativity with the man himself. His theory is rock solid. The man himself was a womanizing dickhole full of crazy ideas. Not to mention this is the guy who fought tooth and nail against quantum physics. So I suspect this quote about "objective reality" was ripped out of context from a debate with bohr or something.
So, reality is equally as valid as a photon's. I didn't know that they basically also didn't experience space, so that's interesting.
"Depression comes from living in the past, anxiety comes from living in the future and happiness comes from living right now" Joe, you blow my mind!
Which is great because videos like these usually cause both... Thanks for the mindfulness!
Who need Vsauce when we have Joe Scott.
This was amazing dude, thanks for sharing your thoughts with us.
Just found your channel the other day Joe. Subbed and love it!
The relational nature of how we experience time Is not about how old we are, but how fast our brain is making memories. You make a lot more memories, encoding information as a matter of cognitive development, when you are younger. That’s the same reason why “time slows down” in moments of stress, you are making more memories, encoding information at a high rate, so that you have the most information to make decisions as quickly as possible. This also explains why traumatic distress can be an outcome of extremely stressful situations, because you have encoded lots of information into memory of that stressful moment.
I saw Interstellar, and no thank you. I don't want Matthew M. living in my bookshelf!
Just imagine hearing _"Alright, alright, alright"_ coming from your bookshelf in the middle of the night. 😬
@@LisaBowers Failure to launch, indeed
Murph!
My favorite: Time keeps everything from happening at once!
14:22 That spoke to me brother.
Words to live by!!
Does the banana help you to "slip" in time??? ... maybe only when it is on the floor...
Thanks for another fantastic video!
From Slaughterhouse Five:
_"All moments, past, present and future, always have existed, always will exist. The Tralfamadorians can look at all the different moments just that way we can look at a stretch of the Rocky Mountains, for instance. They can see how permanent all the moments are, and they can look at any moment that interests them. It is just an illusion we have here on Earth that one moment follows another one, like beads on a string, and that once a moment is gone it is gone forever."_
I love Vonnegut forever.
That is such a good book.
Ironic contradiction..
Miller's equation: T=KoS×F
Time keeps on slippin into the future... ✌💙
In Quantum Leap - Sam could only jump back in time within his own lifetime.
Pink Floyd popped in to my mind as soon as I saw the notification
Joe: What is Time?
Me: An amazing song 🤘
great song but after a few times i could do without the intro.
“Present time” is relative to those who are born to experience it. Just because I’m alive right now and experiencing the “present time” does not mean a person living in the 1800’s did not experience “present time” for they did too.
We are just flowing through a timeline that is already “written” and is up to our actions how the future will become. We cannot avoid our death. It’s inevitable which is one of the facts for time to be already established with a set of coordinates.
It’s very intriguing.
Yes Scott but the atomic clock also uses a crystal also and it is cesium that makes it more precise.
Didn't realize my show was called Answers With Scott.
@@joescott Joe your videos are great it was just a thing I had found out a few days ago.
@@joescott I was just sharing info like you do.
God bless your tangent cam. It is also your "tidying required" cam.
Listen to the banana spiel. It was heartfelt.
Why? No script. Genuine contemplation.
Good on ya.
Finally someone spoke about the issue with us going through space on time travel
The show Travellers deal with distance. They can only travel back as far as CCTV and GPS records so they have a location fix with an accurate date, time and location.
Thanks for sharing 🌷💐
Its crazy because no matter what we are always living in the past... even if you're standing right next to someone, it still takes that billionth of a second for the light to reach your eyes... so we never truly experience the moment as it truly is... we always live just slightly in the past...
That was brilliant Joe.
My brain wants more please
:)
Glad that banana had a point. Thought you were starting some bizarre ASMR video..
Or just saying "fuck it" to the audience.
Talk of equalibria, I have two devices with youtube simultaneously playing this video. Not wierd at all.
Luv u and your emotional intelligence+ sublime comic timing. More Joe please!
For anyone interested, I strongly suggest reading "The Order of Time" (audiobook by Benedict Cumberbatch).
As far as I understand, the B-theory of time makes the most sense.
LordMichaelRahl
No spoilers please!
He still has the Time stone!
"It's almost impossible." Well, the Time Lords are very clever!
TENET the movie by Chris Nolan seems the backwards theoru
In a way, it is impossible to live in "the now". Each of us is living in both the past and the future at the same time. Everything you see, hear, feel, and taste takes time to travel and be processed by the brain. When we see a bird, it took time for that light to reach the eye, the signal from the eye took time to travel to the brain and finally be processed. The same happens if we stub our toe, it takes time for the nerves to transmit that signal to the brain. The same goes for taste and hearing. Even if only by a tiny fraction of a second, our brain is experiencing the past. Our consciousness, from the body's viewpoint is living in the past, and because our body is experiencing things that our consciousness has yet to experience, it exists in the future. Basically, we're living in the past, the future, and two separate nows.
The Time Machine book and movie shows time travel just how you described it and it's SO GOOD
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no one:
joe: *casually eats banana*
OH NO WHY IS THE VIDEO REVERSING AND OUT OF SYNC JOE I CANT RIGHT NOW
You really pulled off that banana part extremely well. What you were saying matched up with your movements so perfectly. As long as I didn't look at your mouth moving (or the banana), I'd probably have been convinced there was nothing amiss. Well done. :)
The best thing of your videos is the cool drum intro.
Is that compliment or an insult?
Banana and Anti-matter! Love the inside joke there!
You mean Anti Banana.
Didn't get this the first time. Was very distracted by the banana.
Joe...I am blown away by your by your brilliant synthesis. I, of course, am referring to rebuilding the banana....
The banana improved the talk about teleportation a lot.
It helped with scale..
Dear Joe from the tangent camera: please organize your desk. Sincerely a fan with mild OCD =)
Dear Gabriela, you don't have OCD, you're just picky.
Sincerely, someone who has actual professionally diagnosed OCD whose room is in a constant state of chaos.
“And you run, and you run to catch up with the sun
But it's sinking
Racing around to come up behind you again
The sun is the same in a relative way
But you're older
Shorter of breath, and one day closer to death”
- Pink Floyd
Awesome
Is time absolute/relative?
Einstein’s special relativity: well yes, but actually no
NO. It is relative. Hence the name of the Special and General Theories of RELATIVITY. Meaning, essentially everything is relative to something else.
It is a real, measurable, demonstrable thing. In fact we would not have GPS satellites and accurate mapping if we did not understand it, and so account for the error or discrepancy. The closer to a mass, the slower time passes, or a clock ticks. The faster one is moving relative to another object, the slower the time passes as recorded from each location.
It can take some getting used to and understanding. But this IS a real thing and apparently how out Universe actually works.
Nature and the real world has no obligation, or owes us no explanation for how shit is. It is up to us to work it out and accept that is how it seems to be.
you must be related to Al Bundy... what a bunch of bouncing hooters