Car dependency ruins things for drivers too. It turns it into a necessary evil, people who aren't into driving have to drive, and ruins roads and makes them not as safe.
That's actually a good point. I love cars, and I used to be really really critical about all of this urbanism, but I'm discovering that they aren't Anti-car, just Anti-car dependency. I looooooove riding Bike Share bikes around Toronto and not having to drive down there, then getting stuck in traffic on my drive back home. Cars should go the way of the Motorcycle, be something you want, not something you need. Also it's kind of evil that families have to go into $20k worth of debt, spend nearly $10k a year, just to go to the grocery store or work so they can pay off the debt from the car.
I’m a distance runner and I could go on for days about how inconvenient it is for me. My only options here in my home town are roads. Not too bad unless I need to do more than 1.5 miles in which case I’m forced onto a busy connecting road where my life is at the mercy of drivers.
@@coastaku1954I think it's fair to say that there's a _very_ vocal minority who are about banning all cars, or at least human drivers. The comment section is filled with comments which blame cars, instead of the root cause which is car _dependency._ I don't like driving to commute, I'd much rather have other options. But I still like to drive. It's nice to drive through the mountains on weekends in a car or on a motorcycle.
@@breakfast7595 My views on this have bounced around and moving to a Rural area has made me more Pro-car than ever, since cars are the status quo and I'm scared of change
I'm 35, I don't have a driving license and either work remotely or at an 8-minute away office. That sounded good until Irealize that's the only job I could take without taking the car for a 30-minute ride because public transport sucks.
@@ccityplanner1217 Nope, I live in Spain, but I'm preparing for JLPT N3 in 15 days haha. I plan to migrate and actually move to somewhere with a decent train network.
@@co2_os I'm in software development, but there are many jobs that can be 100% remote. Basically anything where all you need is a computer and/or phone.
A quote from Mikael Colville-Andersen that I really like is along the lines of "designing for cars is the biggest misallocation of resources in the history of humans"
agree and disagree at the end thanks to a car you are not depended on the few places you have in your area which is a big benefit but public transport is also important for everyone who doesn't have a car. but then you're limited to the places the tracks go.
Without a car you can't really travel as freely, you would be confined mostly to your local area like in the past and every trip would require way more planning and time. Some trips might be even impossible.
Fun fact: The “nyom” noise you hear at 0:19 is from when a fan at the US Grand Prix (Formula 1) spotted one of the broadcast microphones up on the big spectator tower. He did a bunch of these noises and they appeared live on the world feed, so you had the commentators... commentating, while a random guy was going “neow!” every few seconds 😄
1:57 - Tapakapa somehow puts my character in the exact situation I'm in - There are 10 buses every day, 6AM, 7AM and 7:30AM, then 9:15AM, then 1:35PM, and then following that are two buses that only operate during the school term (3:15PM and 4:05PM) and then we end the day with a 5PM, a 5:30PM and a 6PM. No other buses that aren't exclusively for schools. It's ridiculous.
Where I grew up in New Zealand, there was nothing within walking distance except detached housing. No local cafe, pub, restaurant, grocery store, nothin'. I didn't have a car so I was trapped at home. If I wanted to do anything besides wander aimlessly around the neighbourhood, I would walk to the bus stop for a bus that would often never come, and endure the sometimes 40-50 minute journey to the hollowed-out, half-vacant, car-infested city centre. A journey that would otherwise take 15 minutes by car, I must add. Needless to say, my childhood sucked, I had no sense of community or independence, and I had to rely on my parents to shuttle me around everywhere or drive me to a friend's place to stay the night. Shit that I should have had the freedom to do *on my own.* All because of braindead car culture ideology. Allowing a child to grow up in a car-dependent suburban environment like that is borderline child abuse imho. I'd go as far as to argue that it _is_ child abuse. I will NEVER allow my kids to endure what I went through. It's the main reason I moved to the UK, along with the housing crisis and skyrocketing cost of living for even the shittiest areas back in NZ.
@@SaadNabil i don't know what you want with an interior of a car, it's just a normal interior, do you want some disco inside it or some futuristic thing?
@@espantaviejas3000.i think he meant that when a touchscreen controls everything including the AC which means it'll be bad for ergonomic and one the screen breaks, you lose the control over the features
injuryfacts.nsc.org/all-injuries/deaths-by-demographics/deaths-by-age/data-details/ National safety counsel shows poisoning as leading cause for 15 through 67.
Yea sorry this is almost certainly not true anywhere in the world. By global statistics, all vehicular accidents account for around 2% of deaths- true, most of these are probably done by cars, and this stat doesn't account for non-fatal accidents, but still, this places cars below suicide in terms of number of deaths. Given how many cars there are vs how many acutely suicidal people there are, this would suggest cars are actually remarkably safe given their destructive potential. Or maybe it doesn't, I'm not a statistician, that's just an inference I'm making.
As someone who has just read Happy City after following NJB, City Beautiful, and the Life Sized City for several months, this video makes me very happy :) The growing awareness of urbanism and its importance for human wellbeing is great to see.
Its also Important to have healthy towns. Of course we have to use cars*, but its a long shot from the desolate desserts that are american suburbs. In general Towns and Cities should avoid becoming like their american counterparts *i mean its more enticing to us that for the people in the cities
@@schinkenspringer1081 We *don't* have to use cars. And I absolutely hate cars. I will never understand why they are enticing to people. I agree with the rest of what you're saying, though.
@@zUJ7EjVD I'm not American, man. I live in the UK where many people live car-free even though streets are crammed full of cars and it's a stressful experience for pedestrians. I'm jealous of our European neighbours and their excellent infrastructure
I had read Happy City, or at least large portions of it, during a planning class, which I took just as City Beautiful, NJB, and the like were either starting off, or about to get off the ground. It's been incredible to see urbanism go from a thing people pretend to do in Cities Skylines to a network of creators producing actual urbanism-focused content.
unfortunately, in America, we are being priced out of walkable urban areas and forced to get more affordable housing in the car dependant suburbs and rural areas😢
Cars might be the freedom to get somewhere fast without a schedule, but your legs were the freedom to go anywhere locally with little impediment, something cars have taken from us with unending lanes of traffic and parking lots.
@@killerkraut9179oft in places with public transport its either smaller commutes, or simply carrying more bags. Both of which are much easier in a world where you don't have to drive out of the way for a big box store.
As someone who lives in a "country" area I feel this video. 10km walk. 30 min buss ride that costs an ok amount of money. 2 min drive including finding somewhere to park and it's cheaper over the long term.
Huh, for once a "Anti-Car" video that actually doesn't get me pissed off cause I'm a car enthusiast. You raised very good points and noted the reality for many people that just have no choice in the matter
@jaep struiksma I get that now, actually. I want choice and ease of travel, I shouldn't be forced to drive everywhere I go, nor should I be forced to take transit, bike, or walk. Good cities give choice between those 4 main modes. And good countries let me choose between the Car, Train, and Plane for longer distance trips. Toronto to Montreal is the only route like this, where you actually have a choice between the 401, Air Canada or Via Rail
@@mejman2 Well frankly "wants" are irrelevant. Say I want to be able to land my plane in the street. That's ridiculous right? Well everybody 'wanting' to have a car is too when you really look at it. Society should always be about what does the most good for the most people, without needlessly harming smaller groups. There's no 'harm' caused to car lovers by giving them equally fast options.
Go check out NotJustBikes' videos if you want car culture ruined forever. When you get a glimpse of what liveable cities look like in the Netherlands, it ruins other countries' cities for you.
@@ryanscott6578 i want to see you transport something or someone with a bike ;) cars are goddamn essential i just dont get people who buy thoose roadblock SUVs
@@wursthans852 How many children do you think can fit on one bike? (At least 3) or one extra adult at the back is totally not a problem. Same with stuff. I don't have a car, but I also really don't need one for almost anything.
@@wursthans852 you can actually transport a lot on bicycles, but that is beside the point: walkable/cycleable cities can still support car traffic perfectly fine. the inverse is not true for car-dependent cities.
@@wursthans852 Bike trailers and luggage racks are a thing. But I would only would want to use them over the car when the infrastructure for it is there. Luckily I´m moving to the city soon, where I can go shopping by bike (which I am actually looking forward to). I will still keep my car for trips outside of the city, but it will be driven much less.
@@liberty.b.r a lot of European cities and towns are built like that, especially in Germany. In fact, generally European cities are built so living areas and working areas and shopping areas are all mixed around and not concentrated in separate places, which is probably one of the reasons there's more biking and walking here, and why public transport feels better.
I agree. The problem isnt that cars are a form of transportation that we have access to. Its that for many people its the ONLY sensible mode of transportation.
There's also the health benefits of promoting walking, biking, and public transport. The USA's obesity rate is disgusting, whereas if you go to the Netherlands you can see people, especially young people, looking fitter and leaner because they walk more. Having more walkable roads would definitely get people to exercise a bit more, which would make them happier and healthier in the long run.
Fat isn't poison, it's an organ. Don't you notice how they never give you death statistics for being too skinny? It's not because they don't exist. They just don't want you to know that number.
@chadkline4268 Fat is not an organ by definition. You do get death statistics for undereating. Although they are lower as addictive high calorie foods are everywhere, you'd have to go out of your way in the USA. They are who now? If this "they" had business in keeping some number of starvation related deaths hidden, why would that benefit them? There is infinitely more money in the market pretending unhealthy foods, low mobility, and excessive consumption, are all good and healthy. McDonald's wouldn't run tricking people into not buying anything.
@@chadkline4268and most importantly, like everything else, the dose makes the posion. Fat ain't bad until you have too much of it. Salt is nessasary until it's the only thing you eat. Water is amazing, until your brain gets bricked, as water toxicity is a very real thing.
Cars are in fact such an inefficient method of transport that by building car-centric infrastructure, you will _always_ have traffic problems. If you build more and wider roads? They'll just fill up with cars. Make them wider still? More cars. That's what forcing people into cars leads to. This means that in foregoing car-centric infrastructure, people who like driving cars are among those with the most to gain. Surprise surprise, if you allow people to travel by other means than just cars, fewer people will use cars, and traffic will improve. This means you don't need ludicrously wide roads and everything can be more compact, leading to even fewer people being forced into cars. Not to mention that narrower roads are actually safer.
i live in brazil, where the whole entire country, is built for cars. heck, the capital was built by a guy who was enfatuated with automobiles, and you can't turn an arcsecond without seing an automobile. i always get mad when i remember that *my own town* used to have a train station going right trough it, with a stop at it's sister city, now it's just a theatre that i only went once in my school life to watch a seminar on water or something. i lived in germany for a while, and loved the busses that kneeled for you, the trains gently coming to a stop beside you like a moving building. the way you could run around town with a bike with little issue. i remember seeing for the first time a laying down bike piloted by what i remember being a pensioner.
this issue is something that's been bothering me about the city i live in as i've become more independent and need to actually think about how to get around. the bus system in my city is, by and large, mediocre, with most bus lines coming at 15 minute intervals at best, to once an hour at worst on the weekends (if they aren't cancelled, which the city does a poor job communicating)
I’ve been without a car for a year (San Francisco). It’s encouraged me to look into new ways of getting around. I made use of the bus system. Got around via bicycle, and heck, I even got into motorcycling for a bit (easy to justify in a city setting). Not having to park, have a car payment, registration, or fuel/maintenance was a nice perks (albeit, my wages couldn’t justify the expense of a car anyhow) Now, I’ve obtained a job that pays me double what I was making previously but I needed a car to commute to my new job 100 miles DAILY. Public transit could have been an option but at the cost of doubling (or even tripling) my commute time, public transit was a hard sell. So I’m tying up a significant chunk of my income in a car (that I don’t even care about). I think it’s ridiculous that we force people into debt for appliances they don’t want and force them to pay registration fees, insurance, fuel costs, and maintenance fees. Buy an expensive vehicle and pay to maintain it. That’s asking too much from the average person that doesn’t care about driving. Not to mention the cost of sitting on over crowded roads every single day for several hours a week. It’s insane. I’ma car enthusiast and I love a great sports car. But forcing everyone to take on massive debt to operate and maintain a tool that DEPRECIATES is absurd. The amount we spend on cars every month could be used towards learning a new skill. Taking a class, investing in new technology, exercising, meeting people etc. I feel there are so many opportunities that car pension naturally robs us from.
Good thing that I live in a 800 year old village and in a country that provides a good enough, cheap, state owned public transport. "Insert European Anthem"
In much of Ohio, GM bought out the intercity rail system and replaced it with buses. Then, the buses went away, and now in north west Ohio where I went to college, there's small oasis towns that are difficult to leave without a car. It was culture shock for me as a Chicagoland native.
I love you Tapa! (You should know, I have notifications on for all your videos, but I didn’t get one for this one. I know sometimes youtube is weird about that, so wanted you to know) Love from Melbourne
The problem isn't the car, it is the Stroad. The car is meant as a replacement for the horse and buggy, for people in rural areas to get to town, Sprawl only happened because Roads and Stroads were built, and infrastructure of towns was extended to be near highways due to corporate lobbying, if Towns said No, we will not run sewer, electricity, and water to you miles outside of our town, most commercial businesses would not go there, and would be forced to stay in the Town. Of course the car would make it easier to live in the countryside, but those people would be on septic tanks, have no gas lines etc. Look at Dawson City in the Yukon, it is a proper town with no sprawl, even though most people work and exist outside of the town, they all drive to the walkable town to do commerce, because big box stroads have not been provided as the town will not extend the infrastructure outside of the town.
@@aabb55777 It depends how remote a place is, if it is too remote, then it makes sense just to have houses hooked up to generators instead of drawing from the grid, but if a town has more than lets say 100 people, then that town should have electricity run to them.
I can’t work without a car.. not only is work about a 45 minute drive from home, I start at every hour of the day, could be 3am, could be 10pm, could be 7am… public transport, absolutely not an option, Taxi, like £25 each way. I am a truck driver. And I absolutely need a car to do that job because I live in the city, and big gigantic shipping yards don’t set up in down town cities so they are always way out in the countryside. 🚘😒
@@willy4170 no I watched the whole video so most probably that assumption is wrong, what I am saying is that a car isn’t just a luxury but a necessity for some people who would otherwise be unemployed without it.
@@Cypher791for some people. No one is saying that we need to ban all cars. It's more about building in such a way that not everyone needs one. I live in Russia, and thanks to how urban planning was done here, I can get to work, job or entertainment or any other place in the city on foot in 20-30 minutes. I don't need a car for my job or anything a do on a daily basis. You, on the other hand, need car, you do transportation. So, imagine how much better your job would become if, let's say, half of cars driven by single commutters are gone and replaced by a few busses? No trafic, no parking issues, faster speeds, etc.
I care about the environment. That's why i use one of my private jets to commute like the rest of milioners. To a place where i speak that the poor need to care about environment too and drive less like I do.
Our current set up treats driving as a need instead of a privilege, forcing people who are better suited for other forms of transport to become dangerous on the road.
im really glad my city invests a lot in public transport, im not sure how i would do basically anything otherwise and the whole thing is surrounded by forests and parks so there is not much possibility for endless spreading
I love my car. I commute 36 miles each way to work in New Hampshire. How in the hell would I walk or ride a bicycle 72 miles a day? What about when it is raining or during the Winter when the temperatures are in the teens for months on end? Ridiculous concept to go without a car.
Well look for somebody in your situation for now you need a car but what if you had a high-speed rail or fast bus (rapid bus) to get you there?? And you got to sit and comfort and chill the whole way?? We need public transport alternatives to at least give people the ability to choose.
I love cars for their ability to take you to wherever you want to go, especially in my country where there’s lots of rural areas and places outside of cities. But it’s true, we need to significantly change the car dependence of a lot of places. It seems America is starting to move into the right direction and stop building so much ridiculous suburban sprawl, but on the other hand my country is now going backwards and building car centric neighbourhoods rather than expanding suburbs like mine which are very walkable and built around public transit. I feel like cars should be banned inside cities and from the centres of big suburbs, it’s a big change but people need to accept it and I think the world would be a much better place with that system. You don’t even really need cars to commute, in my country trains can get you to most cities and a lot of towns and if we invested in that infrastructure again and linked every town back up like they were in the 1800s, you could commute anywhere via the train.
The Southwest US in a nutshell. I think they need to learn that sprawl doesn't pay the hard way. And that way is building billions of dollars in new electrified trains across LA.
This is an interesting video! I guess this explains why the car is so prevalent in today's society, and why my home country (the US) particularly clings so much to the car. As for the last question, I choose "freedom to choose"! The American once said that the car represents the freedom to travel anywhere. Well, if we have the freedom to ride a car, why not have the freedom to walk, cycle, or ride public transit as well?
Why not have the freedom to bike etc? You do. But since roads allow the greatest possible uses (freight transport, emergency vehicles, personal transportation) that is the main form of transportation in the US.
in Mexico there is no council in many small towns. I bought a place in Tulum and for a place that is supposed to be eco friendly it sure as is car centric. The resorts are building these maze-like places with only once access point, to supposedly have security. But what I think is this is making it harder for the workers that have to get to work in the absolute steam room that the Caribbean is during summer. I was just there and couldn’t fathom how the locals get anything done after walking in circles in that heat
I live out in the country with absolutely no access to public transport. The only way I can get into work is by car. It does feel sort of worth it to me though. My neighbours aren't living on top of me, everything feels less congested and if I need to go out to buy anything it's just a 20 minute drive away.
Great outline of the point against cars. People say that people in outer, rural areas will not be able to reach the urban areas for their needs, but the idea is not to annihilate every car on the planet but rather to only use them when absolutely necessary.
Cars are not the problem; it's how we plan our cities... Except that cars are the sole reason we plan our cities that way. So, actually, yes, it is car's fault. Not because people "choose" to buy them, but because people *already* have bought them.
Nope, name a city that was planned after the car, which has and we can start having a convo limited to that. You're looking at this like it's a chicken or egg problem, when in fact, one definitely did come first.
@@dl6860 *stares confusedly* You do realize cars have been around for far over 100 years, and that city planning is an active and ongoing process for every city. If you actually watched the video, it's pretty evident that Tapakapa is talking about how modern city planning is problematic, not about the 1850's or whenever. As for the second part, no heckin' shifles. Of course, it isn't just one or the other. That's my whole point, that one saying "'Cars are not the problem' city planning is" misses out on the fact that cars are half of the feedback loop. It might've been unclear what I was trying to say (and for that I apologize), but I'm not trying to refute any of the facts posed in Tapakapa's video. I agree with all of them. I also agree with most of his claims. I merely take issue with the thesis. (And yes, I do recognize that Tapakapa was writing it as a hook, as "clickbait")
Cars are also a lot more likely to injure their passengers or pedestrians than other sorts of vehicles just by statistical likelihood- there's more cars than planes and ships, and they operate closer to potential victims. If 40 people take a bus, only one driver has to be capable and responsible; if we assume this is 10 families of 4, that means now 10 people have to be capable and responsible.
Usually those in America there are only one person per car or two people per car unless it’s a family so it’s 40 people might be as many as 40 drivers have to be responsible for driving safety or somewhere between 10 to 30 drivers instead of 10.
Here in rural BC they are spending another half a billion to further widen the highway. Tearing out vast swaths of forest, paving farmland, and eating away at scenic cliffs. We could of had a Greenway, with a food forest for the birds and bees… and have humans actually enjoying what nature has to offer. We are all stuck in a corporate car-culture c$$$ rut, and can’t seem to escape.
@@killerkraut9179 well yes. The actual landscape footprint is smaller. Solar installed on the tops reduces infrastructure energy needs in the long run. Helps with the climate crisis asphalt, and fossil fuels problems which car-culture is responsible for. Road kill is mostly eliminated, especially in urban areas. Safety will dramatically be better, especially when speeds are limited. Mag lev in forward thinking countries is popular of course, and elevated trams are sweet. Many out there can’t think outside the tin box Dream Dystopia we bought into. Expense? Wow 😯 we can take a bike or scooter, even a velomobile in for groceries or shopping. Service provided as a social necessity is possible, and could eliminate the pay at the pump gouging that will spike dramatically as post Peak Oil scarcity kicks in. Vehicle repairs can bankrupt people, especially the working poor. Then what? Debt makes more Corporate Slave rat race runners. No more toxic black burnt plastic rubber pouring onto the oceans, which with plastic pollution and acid rain are dying. What else? I could have a friendly chat with someone, instead of fighting traffic, hearing road rage 😤, and contributing to the offensive noise, plus seeing the vehicle pollution from a seat in a car. Fossil Fuel stacked up the trams, and took over the streets, displacing the poor or marginalized neighbourhoods, plunging the countries into debt. Time to stop being killers, and respect life on earth.
Public Transport is not as efficient as well. Take the electric busses or trams. That electricity needs to come from somewhere, which at this moment is mostly from burning coal.
There is potential of electricity to be created from renewables. Combustion engine can be powered only by fossil fueles. Public transport is much more efficient, because it carries much more passengers than car. 50 people can go by one bus or drive 50 cars. It is obvious which produces less emissions.
I'm not trying to be rude, but you're parroting propaganda. "Efficient" doesn't mean what you're using it to me. Yes, even coal powered electricity is more efficient than Gas, generally. But regardless, one bus, even a very 'inefficient' one, is more efficient than cars as long as it has a few passengers. Few people carpool sadly, so 3 or 4 riders on a bus makes it significantly cleaner than those people all driving on their own. A full bus is getting hundreds of "passenger miles per gallon", while a car tops out at around 5x it's rated MPG if you've packed it to the gills(and who really wants to be in that middle seat?)
Coal is getting to be more expensive than other energy sources and the companies are bleeding money (also with propaganda like "clean coal") to try to keep the industry alive.
there are people that should live out in the boonies, and thats oK and should be an option and such people should have cars. however, modern infrastructure planning FORCES you to live that way.
Rural farmers aren't the issue, it's the half-breed mess that are suburbs. Which often wipe out farms, actually. Most mcMansion developments are on old farmers land driven out by rising property values, leaving productive fields to be turned into an acre of grass a family barely uses
Best take on this issue I've seen from a non-american. Over here in the trainless land of sprawl, id love a nice railroad or two to get around without paying for gas, insurance, maintenance, registration, etc, and would love to maintain my sanity lost to traffic every day. But alas, the constant increase in taxes continues to get us absolutely nowhere, as funding for public transport seems like a mirage, continually slipping behind the horizon. Every time I see another anti-car ad, I get depressed, because everyone is so obsessed with crucifying the manifestation of the problem instead of building a solution that will remove the need for the problem to exist.
Ideally, everyone should have access to one highly versatile car in their household, *but rarely have to use it.* This would be for spontaneous outings (e.g. a picnic) to a national park or some secluded area on BLM land, or for hauling cargo of some sort.
If we're really being ideal, even that would be limited to rural and semi-rural areas, with car share systems and such filling the holes between transit and active transport.
@@moosesandmeese969 If you could shrink the size of the United States 10-fold, I would say your idea makes sense, but it's too big for cars to go away entirely, in my opinion.
Agreed. I'm decompiling a theory on this for years now. 1. The thing u described in the begging with the center and periferial areas is happening on a much bigger scale. There is a range in which its its reasonable to drive a car to, lets say, work. That makes the priferial areas limited in range from the center. 2. Public transportation (buses and service cabs) use the roads too. Public transport should get a huge boost financially and technologically in order to compete with cars.
When I was living in Portland, OR, public transportation was great within the bounds of the city proper and fell off pretty terribly once you left the city limits (transportation to and within larger suburbs/satellite cities like Beaverton and Hillsboro also remained pretty good).
I was gonna say that whatever you explained in the video is a no-brainer, but it seems that many people (perhaps even the majority) are not willing to limit their driving time, let alone part ways altogether. But again, how can they when the infrastructure is so bad? But, people should still reduce their reliance on cars whenever possible, especially since some people still just drive their cars aimlessly just to "de-stress".
@@aabb55777 That's fine since those things are long-distance, takes the whole day and likely not frequent - that's what cars would be useful for. But like going to the supermarket or going to the nearby town for a day out, public transport can suffice.
@@MrStark-up6fi Planes dump lots more emissions than any other transport method and no one likes being packed in a tube through one door and going through TSA. Trains solve those problems.
Is this video and the topic mainly about car dependency? Because I've been a fan and passionate about cars my whole life, especially with motorsports. I'd appreciate it if someone were to give helpful insight, since I'm prone to overthinking things too easily.
Funny. Elon Musk’s new Tesla factory on the outskirts of Berlin is exactly like that. People will need to drive there or live ridiculously nearby (and away from civilization at the same time).
That is a good thing, putting factories away from towns, who wants that pollution nearby? it is fine to have jobs away from towns, but people who work in the town, should be able to walk to work. It is the commercial activity fleeing towns that kills them, if a factory moves to the outskirts, but the businesses stay in town, that is still fine
ok so lets build the massive building in the center of a city that has existed for like a thousands years. just so workers can walk up to a building so huge that its quicker to take a car and drive to the other side of it than walk though it
I wished the video focused more on the poor zoning that makes single family and out of town malls so common. People and businesses want to live in the centre, but can’t cos of zoning laws.
Why do people want to live in the center, its always full of drunks and drug addicts. The housing is semi-commie blocks and always rotten, just live in the suburb and drive a motorcycle or something.
@@aarosundvall I currently live in a nice little flat. I can walk to the train station, multiple different grocery stores and countless restaurants in a couple of minutes. Public transport departs in multiple directions with less than 10 minute intervals each. I sometimes even walk to university, although taking my bicycle or public transport is faster. Why on earth would I want to depend on having a motorbike and spend more time commuting?
I love driving my car, it is comfortable, no one smells there, it saves me a lot of time and some jobs it was just impossible to go there by public transport or bike. But for my groceries, barber, pharmacy, and all the services you can imagine, I can just walk there in 5-15 minutes, or go by tram, bus or metro. Cars arent bad, but you have to have a choice. Car dependency is bad. Also public transport is way cheaper, so for someone having to drive to their minimum wage job is insane. I love that I can chose, to take a tram or a car, or getting my groceries in 10 minutes, including the walking time. America should change, for their people to have the freedom, it will take time, but at least people are realising that there is a problem
_America should change, for their people to have the freedom, it will take time, but at least people are realising that there is a problem_ Funny you talk about freedom because freedom often come out from American to argue AGAINST public transport. "muh freedom in danger" "muh freedom" Not even only public transport, you also have train.. for such a country, their railway network is rather poor.
Motorcycles are such a happy medium that should have been more encouraged. Its sad NA has turned them into a niche hobby. They are so much more efficient
I recently got into driving, and it's really enjoyable for me to go around the city wherever you can. I see cars becoming a double-edged sword. On one hand you have this ability to drive great distances in minutes whereas it would usually take you an hour with public transport (I've been there), but on the other hand it creates pollution, separates places with asphalt, creates bad air and of course it warms up the planet. Electric cars might be the solution, but they only solve the bad air and climate change to a degree. I wish I could make the transition, but hearing the sound of the engine has grown on me, and I think that's what's holding most of us back to the EV transition. Donut Media has great videos on EV's, so if you're interested, give them a watch :) Thank you for making interesting content. Keep it up!
The solution is to give people options. The Netherlands is often ranked as one of the best countries for drivers, which is surprising to some, but one bicycle on the road means one less car on the road, assuming people drive alone, which is usually the case. When people can safely and conveniently walk and cycle around their communities, and park 7 bicycles in the same space it takes to park one car, that makes life easier for people who absolutely DO need to drive, like folks with reduced mobility, delivery vehicles, etc. Forcing people into car dependency by not providing safe sidewalks, reliable public transport, and a connected, segregated cycling network makes it so you have to drive absolutely everywhere, hence why rush hour quickly turns into hours in car-friendly cities. Electric cars don't solve the problem of "the arrogance of space" - a term I really like. Cars are just the least efficient way of moving people around a city. Not saying more car-friendly places shouldn't exist. Some people want a more rural and peaceful lifestyle, but when we're talking about _cities_ I fiercely believe that, although people love to pretend otherwise, we need each other. We're social animals. Forget population _size_ , the places with a high degree of population _density_ where people have frequent opportunities for spontaneous, unplanned interaction, are the places with the greatest degree of community and social trust. Walkable small villages with public squares can achieve this. Of course, what I'm saying applies to denser, mixed-use places. US cities are so spread out and housing so separate from businesses that a lot of what I'm arguing for is unfeasible (I'm in the UK where cities are denser and more walkable) but apply what I'm saying in the context of a US downtown. That's where the change first needs to happen.
The fact, which you have forgot to tell your audience. We Viennese don't move to the periphery because of the cars or the expensive rents, we move because vienna have become a cloaca.
This doesn’t address the fact that people want to live out in rural areas already and this provides them with easier access to resources and things. Big cities still have everything within walking distance, and so do lots of suburban areas more or less, but this just makes things less centered in cities.
Not quite, but yeah the netherlands have been pretty nice everytime I visited. When I first visited amsterdam I thought it was sunday or a holiday or something, because there were so few cars on the road. But in retrospect its just because everyone bikes, walks or uses public transport much more. So even the people who need to use a car profit from it.
That's insane hyperbole lmao but for real, I live in the UK and it would be a dream to live in the Netherlands. Having affinity for the culture, and the great location within Europe is a part of it, but just the infrastructure alone is reason enough for me.
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Car dependency ruins things for drivers too. It turns it into a necessary evil, people who aren't into driving have to drive, and ruins roads and makes them not as safe.
Every time you see some car crash compilations, just know that the people in those crashes, have no choice but to use cars.
@@drkreuzer670 Why are you watching car crash compilations?
@@LoneJerboaProductions because why not?
@@thetheatreorgan168 okay...
Why turn a blind eye to reality?@@LoneJerboaProductions
I've been making this argument for years but have never been able to put it more eloquently.
I want to be able to drive. Not to have to.
That's actually a good point. I love cars, and I used to be really really critical about all of this urbanism, but I'm discovering that they aren't Anti-car, just Anti-car dependency. I looooooove riding Bike Share bikes around Toronto and not having to drive down there, then getting stuck in traffic on my drive back home. Cars should go the way of the Motorcycle, be something you want, not something you need. Also it's kind of evil that families have to go into $20k worth of debt, spend nearly $10k a year, just to go to the grocery store or work so they can pay off the debt from the car.
I’m a distance runner and I could go on for days about how inconvenient it is for me. My only options here in my home town are roads. Not too bad unless I need to do more than 1.5 miles in which case I’m forced onto a busy connecting road where my life is at the mercy of drivers.
@@coastaku1954I think it's fair to say that there's a _very_ vocal minority who are about banning all cars, or at least human drivers. The comment section is filled with comments which blame cars, instead of the root cause which is car _dependency._ I don't like driving to commute, I'd much rather have other options. But I still like to drive. It's nice to drive through the mountains on weekends in a car or on a motorcycle.
@@breakfast7595 My views on this have bounced around and moving to a Rural area has made me more Pro-car than ever, since cars are the status quo and I'm scared of change
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A wild Not Just Bikes appeared!
Hey! I think I watched a few of your videos before...
I was about to recommend your channel here hahaha
*you*
I knew it! I knew you would be here!
I'm 35, I don't have a driving license and either work remotely or at an 8-minute away office. That sounded good until Irealize that's the only job I could take without taking the car for a 30-minute ride because public transport sucks.
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⦚sarandonga don't you live in Japan which has really good public transport?
@@ccityplanner1217 Nope, I live in Spain, but I'm preparing for JLPT N3 in 15 days haha. I plan to migrate and actually move to somewhere with a decent train network.
Or switch to a job where you can be fully remote, like myself.
@@anlumo1 like what?
@@co2_os I'm in software development, but there are many jobs that can be 100% remote. Basically anything where all you need is a computer and/or phone.
Car dependancy was one of the greatest mistakes of the last century.
A quote from Mikael Colville-Andersen that I really like is along the lines of "designing for cars is the biggest misallocation of resources in the history of humans"
agree and disagree at the end thanks to a car you are not depended on the few places you have in your area which is a big benefit but public transport is also important for everyone who doesn't have a car. but then you're limited to the places the tracks go.
Without a car you can't really travel as freely, you would be confined mostly to your local area like in the past and every trip would require way more planning and time. Some trips might be even impossible.
No thanks, I enjoy living in a nice quiet neighbourhood with a big house nice big yard and swimming pool
Who says you cannot have that with non-car centric design?
Fun fact: The “nyom” noise you hear at 0:19 is from when a fan at the US Grand Prix (Formula 1) spotted one of the broadcast microphones up on the big spectator tower.
He did a bunch of these noises and they appeared live on the world feed, so you had the commentators... commentating, while a random guy was going “neow!” every few seconds 😄
Dude's a legend.
For anyone that wants to learn more "F1 neow guy" should be a good search term.
true commentary
Aha, I thought it sounded familiar!
1:57 - Tapakapa somehow puts my character in the exact situation I'm in - There are 10 buses every day, 6AM, 7AM and 7:30AM, then 9:15AM, then 1:35PM, and then following that are two buses that only operate during the school term (3:15PM and 4:05PM) and then we end the day with a 5PM, a 5:30PM and a 6PM. No other buses that aren't exclusively for schools. It's ridiculous.
How
How did you watch it that fast
this comment was made early because of patreon. you’re welcome.
12 hours ago- what
Holy shit. And I complain when I have to wait more than 4 minutes for the subway.
Where I grew up in New Zealand, there was nothing within walking distance except detached housing. No local cafe, pub, restaurant, grocery store, nothin'. I didn't have a car so I was trapped at home. If I wanted to do anything besides wander aimlessly around the neighbourhood, I would walk to the bus stop for a bus that would often never come, and endure the sometimes 40-50 minute journey to the hollowed-out, half-vacant, car-infested city centre. A journey that would otherwise take 15 minutes by car, I must add.
Needless to say, my childhood sucked, I had no sense of community or independence, and I had to rely on my parents to shuttle me around everywhere or drive me to a friend's place to stay the night. Shit that I should have had the freedom to do *on my own.* All because of braindead car culture ideology. Allowing a child to grow up in a car-dependent suburban environment like that is borderline child abuse imho. I'd go as far as to argue that it _is_ child abuse. I will NEVER allow my kids to endure what I went through. It's the main reason I moved to the UK, along with the housing crisis and skyrocketing cost of living for even the shittiest areas back in NZ.
God i live in Auckland for like 4 years and much of the city was like what you describe except the CBD.
@@ANTSEMUT1 I lived in Hamilton which was even worse lol.
@@ryanscott6578 damn.
@@ryanscott6578 as a fellow Hamiltonian, I feel ya mate.
Come to the Netherlands mate. Its awesome here
I love cars. I'm a car enthusiast. But I really hate car dependant cities.
Same here! I hate the cars nowadays! Boring colors, computerized, and boring interior!
@@SaadNabil fr. Atleast some are unique like..... Uh.....
@@SaadNabil i don't know what you want with an interior of a car, it's just a normal interior, do you want some disco inside it or some futuristic thing?
@@espantaviejas3000.i think he meant that when a touchscreen controls everything including the AC
which means it'll be bad for ergonomic and one the screen breaks, you lose the control over the features
Not to mention the fact that car crashes are the number 1 cause of death for all people under 35 and 3rd leading cause of death overall.
Do you have source that specifically states car crashes as leading cause of death for all age groups 0-35?
injuryfacts.nsc.org/all-injuries/deaths-by-demographics/deaths-by-age/data-details/
National safety counsel shows poisoning as leading cause for 15 through 67.
@@aabb55777 he might not be American, and so Opioid poisoning wouldnt affect his as much
@@pedrolmlkzk seems like he is panning America.
But given the crickets from the OP we will never know.
Yea sorry this is almost certainly not true anywhere in the world. By global statistics, all vehicular accidents account for around 2% of deaths- true, most of these are probably done by cars, and this stat doesn't account for non-fatal accidents, but still, this places cars below suicide in terms of number of deaths. Given how many cars there are vs how many acutely suicidal people there are, this would suggest cars are actually remarkably safe given their destructive potential.
Or maybe it doesn't, I'm not a statistician, that's just an inference I'm making.
Train good, car bad, urban sprawl horrible.
Also great video!
hi adam
Facts
Preach brother
Bicycle good, train garbage
@@espantaviejas3000.both good train good for long distance like city to city, CAR is the main problem.
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As someone who has just read Happy City after following NJB, City Beautiful, and the Life Sized City for several months, this video makes me very happy :) The growing awareness of urbanism and its importance for human wellbeing is great to see.
Its also Important to have healthy towns. Of course we have to use cars*, but its a long shot from the desolate desserts that are american suburbs. In general Towns and Cities should avoid becoming like their american counterparts *i mean its more enticing to us that for the people in the cities
@@schinkenspringer1081 We *don't* have to use cars. And I absolutely hate cars. I will never understand why they are enticing to people. I agree with the rest of what you're saying, though.
@@zUJ7EjVD I'm not American, man. I live in the UK where many people live car-free even though streets are crammed full of cars and it's a stressful experience for pedestrians. I'm jealous of our European neighbours and their excellent infrastructure
@@ryanscott6578 Why do you hate cars? I get it, car dependency is terrible, but cars on their own can be really awesome.
I had read Happy City, or at least large portions of it, during a planning class, which I took just as City Beautiful, NJB, and the like were either starting off, or about to get off the ground. It's been incredible to see urbanism go from a thing people pretend to do in Cities Skylines to a network of creators producing actual urbanism-focused content.
unfortunately, in America, we are being priced out of walkable urban areas and forced to get more affordable housing in the car dependant suburbs and rural areas😢
I'd rather buy bicycle skateboard or go to a local bus or taxi then buying a useless luxurious car
Bro smoked something
Cars might be the freedom to get somewhere fast without a schedule, but your legs were the freedom to go anywhere locally with little impediment, something cars have taken from us with unending lanes of traffic and parking lots.
Very well said. I agree
Good public transport is often faster, and much more environmentally friendly too
@@MAL1GNANT Good public transprts isnt good if you buy stuff for a whole family!
@@killerkraut9179oft in places with public transport its either smaller commutes, or simply carrying more bags. Both of which are much easier in a world where you don't have to drive out of the way for a big box store.
@@lefishe5845 But often the smaller commutes are often much better!
As someone who lives in a "country" area I feel this video.
10km walk.
30 min buss ride that costs an ok amount of money.
2 min drive including finding somewhere to park and it's cheaper over the long term.
My “country” area is a 2 hour walk, half hour bike ride and 10 minute drive with no public transport :(
@@saw7191 So, spend an extra 20 minutes and get fit ;)
You drive at 300km/h?
I'm kidding, I get the point
ok money?
here where I live im able to drive with a car using 5€, 100kms... with the bus it costs me to ride it 2 towns away... (almost 20kms)
@@maxii2975 I'd love to know where you can buy a car for 5 pounds
I am a simple man...I see a tapakapa video I like and I watch (that's the exact order of events :) )
it's the only right order. except u speak German. than u also do it on tapa aswell
I am a simple man… I see a good comment and l hit the like button 👍
Same here. Cause I already know I'm going to enjoy the video. 🙂
Huh, for once a "Anti-Car" video that actually doesn't get me pissed off cause I'm a car enthusiast. You raised very good points and noted the reality for many people that just have no choice in the matter
Yeah but usually the "solution" is to raise gas tax.
@@aarosundvall Which they should since the money from that will go towards Public Transit and bike infrastructure
Yeah i know these "urbanists" tend to talk as if no one would want a car if they didn't need one, and i tends to piss me of a lot to.
@jaep struiksma I get that now, actually. I want choice and ease of travel, I shouldn't be forced to drive everywhere I go, nor should I be forced to take transit, bike, or walk. Good cities give choice between those 4 main modes. And good countries let me choose between the Car, Train, and Plane for longer distance trips. Toronto to Montreal is the only route like this, where you actually have a choice between the 401, Air Canada or Via Rail
@@mejman2 Well frankly "wants" are irrelevant. Say I want to be able to land my plane in the street. That's ridiculous right? Well everybody 'wanting' to have a car is too when you really look at it. Society should always be about what does the most good for the most people, without needlessly harming smaller groups. There's no 'harm' caused to car lovers by giving them equally fast options.
I ride my bike everywhere. I sold my car and work from home now.
Great for you.
But not everyone fits in this model, sadly. We have to recognize the difference and find solutions for everyone.
i wish i was able to have that choice. but alas. most of us are stuck with our cars.
Just remember to save just in case you lose your job and have to report to work elsewhere.
@@triadwarfare Ill ride my bike 10 miles like i did to the Office and anothee 10 miles home. Dont be a fat ass. Ride a bike
@@jaridkeen123 Don't fat shame, not everyone wants to ride a bike, Okay?
"Off the road you muppet", said the muppet to another.
Putz di du schüttla
@@DerZocker2000000 ?
@@earicsohtun7202 what he said in the german version
@@DerZocker2000000 ohh okay!
I feel the sudden influx of the videos will eventually ruin car culture for me.
Go check out NotJustBikes' videos if you want car culture ruined forever. When you get a glimpse of what liveable cities look like in the Netherlands, it ruins other countries' cities for you.
@@ryanscott6578 i want to see you transport something or someone with a bike ;) cars are goddamn essential i just dont get people who buy thoose roadblock SUVs
@@wursthans852 How many children do you think can fit on one bike? (At least 3) or one extra adult at the back is totally not a problem.
Same with stuff. I don't have a car, but I also really don't need one for almost anything.
@@wursthans852 you can actually transport a lot on bicycles, but that is beside the point: walkable/cycleable cities can still support car traffic perfectly fine. the inverse is not true for car-dependent cities.
@@wursthans852 Bike trailers and luggage racks are a thing.
But I would only would want to use them over the car when the infrastructure for it is there.
Luckily I´m moving to the city soon, where I can go shopping by bike (which I am actually looking forward to). I will still keep my car for trips outside of the city, but it will be driven much less.
NotJustBikes collab when?
after the GCP grey collab
@@prathamgupta4900 might start making videos idk
in my city, all the important stuff gathers around the train station
schools, shops, hospitals etc.
theres a bus going to the station every few mins
which one?
@@liberty.b.r a lot of European cities and towns are built like that, especially in Germany. In fact, generally European cities are built so living areas and working areas and shopping areas are all mixed around and not concentrated in separate places, which is probably one of the reasons there's more biking and walking here, and why public transport feels better.
Noooooooo, you cant sayyyyyy thaaaaaattt, bus good, car baaaad
That how it should be!
I agree. The problem isnt that cars are a form of transportation that we have access to. Its that for many people its the ONLY sensible mode of transportation.
There's also the health benefits of promoting walking, biking, and public transport. The USA's obesity rate is disgusting, whereas if you go to the Netherlands you can see people, especially young people, looking fitter and leaner because they walk more. Having more walkable roads would definitely get people to exercise a bit more, which would make them happier and healthier in the long run.
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Fat isn't poison, it's an organ. Don't you notice how they never give you death statistics for being too skinny? It's not because they don't exist. They just don't want you to know that number.
I am not sure if public transport. is that healthy !
Trains and trams often smell like urin!
@chadkline4268 Fat is not an organ by definition.
You do get death statistics for undereating. Although they are lower as addictive high calorie foods are everywhere, you'd have to go out of your way in the USA.
They are who now? If this "they" had business in keeping some number of starvation related deaths hidden, why would that benefit them? There is infinitely more money in the market pretending unhealthy foods, low mobility, and excessive consumption, are all good and healthy. McDonald's wouldn't run tricking people into not buying anything.
@@chadkline4268and most importantly, like everything else, the dose makes the posion.
Fat ain't bad until you have too much of it.
Salt is nessasary until it's the only thing you eat.
Water is amazing, until your brain gets bricked, as water toxicity is a very real thing.
Cars are in fact such an inefficient method of transport that by building car-centric infrastructure, you will _always_ have traffic problems. If you build more and wider roads? They'll just fill up with cars. Make them wider still? More cars. That's what forcing people into cars leads to. This means that in foregoing car-centric infrastructure, people who like driving cars are among those with the most to gain. Surprise surprise, if you allow people to travel by other means than just cars, fewer people will use cars, and traffic will improve. This means you don't need ludicrously wide roads and everything can be more compact, leading to even fewer people being forced into cars. Not to mention that narrower roads are actually safer.
Well said. A transition away from Car-Culture Dystopia needs to happen.
Its not the cars fault, its the god damn politcians fault for their zoning laws.
@Tapakapa, you just described the city of Graz, Austria basically where a car is a must as everything is spread so far out.
Let that sink in.
That's the second most populous city of Austria.
nothing compared to north america and australia
the second most populous city in America, Los Angeles, is exactly the same way
Don't even get me started on Phoenix, Arizona.
ideally cars would just be used for travelling, not commuting.
i live in brazil, where the whole entire country, is built for cars. heck, the capital was built by a guy who was enfatuated with automobiles, and you can't turn an arcsecond without seing an automobile.
i always get mad when i remember that *my own town* used to have a train station going right trough it, with a stop at it's sister city, now it's just a theatre that i only went once in my school life to watch a seminar on water or something.
i lived in germany for a while, and loved the busses that kneeled for you, the trains gently coming to a stop beside you like a moving building. the way you could run around town with a bike with little issue. i remember seeing for the first time a laying down bike piloted by what i remember being a pensioner.
this issue is something that's been bothering me about the city i live in as i've become more independent and need to actually think about how to get around. the bus system in my city is, by and large, mediocre, with most bus lines coming at 15 minute intervals at best, to once an hour at worst on the weekends (if they aren't cancelled, which the city does a poor job communicating)
I’ve been without a car for a year (San Francisco). It’s encouraged me to look into new ways of getting around. I made use of the bus system. Got around via bicycle, and heck, I even got into motorcycling for a bit (easy to justify in a city setting).
Not having to park, have a car payment, registration, or fuel/maintenance was a nice perks (albeit, my wages couldn’t justify the expense of a car anyhow)
Now, I’ve obtained a job that pays me double what I was making previously but I needed a car to commute to my new job 100 miles DAILY. Public transit could have been an option but at the cost of doubling (or even tripling) my commute time, public transit was a hard sell.
So I’m tying up a significant chunk of my income in a car (that I don’t even care about). I think it’s ridiculous that we force people into debt for appliances they don’t want and force them to pay registration fees, insurance, fuel costs, and maintenance fees. Buy an expensive vehicle and pay to maintain it. That’s asking too much from the average person that doesn’t care about driving.
Not to mention the cost of sitting on over crowded roads every single day for several hours a week. It’s insane.
I’ma car enthusiast and I love a great sports car. But forcing everyone to take on massive debt to operate and maintain a tool that DEPRECIATES is absurd.
The amount we spend on cars every month could be used towards learning a new skill. Taking a class, investing in new technology, exercising, meeting people etc. I feel there are so many opportunities that car pension naturally robs us from.
Good thing that I live in a 800 year old village and in a country that provides a good enough, cheap, state owned public transport. "Insert European Anthem"
Europe time
* gets out the orchestra * FREUDE SCHÖNER GÖTTERFUNKEN
I love having a car and I've always loved driving but I agree, most of the time cars ruin everything. I mean this is just a factly.
Ah it’s finally here, great to see more from you Tapa
Lord Carquaad- In my quest to get to work 10 minutes sooner, some pedestrians and cyclists may die, but that is a chance I am willing to take!
That’s brilliant 😂
That's a risk you're willing to take
In much of Ohio, GM bought out the intercity rail system and replaced it with buses. Then, the buses went away, and now in north west Ohio where I went to college, there's small oasis towns that are difficult to leave without a car. It was culture shock for me as a Chicagoland native.
i wonder why they'd do that. probably in interest of the populus, i'm sure.
@@crackedemerald4930 It's the politicians and special interest groups that nearly killed off public transportation.
I love you Tapa!
(You should know, I have notifications on for all your videos, but I didn’t get one for this one. I know sometimes youtube is weird about that, so wanted you to know)
Love from Melbourne
Thanks for letting me know. The notifications are really hit-or-miss.
I sometimes get the notifications half and hour later after watching a video...
Adoption of the car was the biggest mistake humans have ever made.
I doubt it!
"you're not stuck in traffic, when you're in your car : you're the traffic"
Trains arent always that reliable they are often even worse!
The problem isn't the car, it is the Stroad. The car is meant as a replacement for the horse and buggy, for people in rural areas to get to town, Sprawl only happened because Roads and Stroads were built, and infrastructure of towns was extended to be near highways due to corporate lobbying, if Towns said No, we will not run sewer, electricity, and water to you miles outside of our town, most commercial businesses would not go there, and would be forced to stay in the Town. Of course the car would make it easier to live in the countryside, but those people would be on septic tanks, have no gas lines etc. Look at Dawson City in the Yukon, it is a proper town with no sprawl, even though most people work and exist outside of the town, they all drive to the walkable town to do commerce, because big box stroads have not been provided as the town will not extend the infrastructure outside of the town.
@@aabb55777 It depends how remote a place is, if it is too remote, then it makes sense just to have houses hooked up to generators instead of drawing from the grid, but if a town has more than lets say 100 people, then that town should have electricity run to them.
@@aabb55777 often water from the well on the farm is better tasting and healthier than in the city. So it is from a relatives farm.
Not just bikes is a TH-cam channel dedicated to this topic.
I can’t work without a car.. not only is work about a 45 minute drive from home, I start at every hour of the day, could be 3am, could be 10pm, could be 7am… public transport, absolutely not an option, Taxi, like £25 each way. I am a truck driver. And I absolutely need a car to do that job because I live in the city, and big gigantic shipping yards don’t set up in down town cities so they are always way out in the countryside. 🚘😒
You know he's not advocating for getting rid of cars right?
@@dropyourselfmost probably someone who just read the title and started commenting right away…
@@willy4170 no I watched the whole video so most probably that assumption is wrong, what I am saying is that a car isn’t just a luxury but a necessity for some people who would otherwise be unemployed without it.
@@Cypher791for some people. No one is saying that we need to ban all cars. It's more about building in such a way that not everyone needs one. I live in Russia, and thanks to how urban planning was done here, I can get to work, job or entertainment or any other place in the city on foot in 20-30 minutes. I don't need a car for my job or anything a do on a daily basis.
You, on the other hand, need car, you do transportation. So, imagine how much better your job would become if, let's say, half of cars driven by single commutters are gone and replaced by a few busses? No trafic, no parking issues, faster speeds, etc.
Wow, finally not some one going "We have to ban cars" but "We should have the freedom to chose our type of comute"
I care about the environment. That's why i use one of my private jets to commute like the rest of milioners. To a place where i speak that the poor need to care about environment too and drive less like I do.
Modern environmentalism in a nutshell. Literally a post-truth extremist cult.
Everytime you see streets closed to cars but open to the people, it’s always at least 746464544444x better than the other way around.
Our current set up treats driving as a need instead of a privilege, forcing people who are better suited for other forms of transport to become dangerous on the road.
im really glad my city invests a lot in public transport, im not sure how i would do basically anything otherwise
and the whole thing is surrounded by forests and parks so there is not much possibility for endless spreading
I love my car. I commute 36 miles each way to work in New Hampshire. How in the hell would I walk or ride a bicycle 72 miles a day? What about when it is raining or during the Winter when the temperatures are in the teens for months on end? Ridiculous concept to go without a car.
You don't live 72 miles from work
sounds like you need a find a job closer or move closer to work.
@@JZTechEngineering 36 miles each way sweetie
@@DaBigBoo_ cope
Well look for somebody in your situation for now you need a car but what if you had a high-speed rail or fast bus (rapid bus) to get you there?? And you got to sit and comfort and chill the whole way??
We need public transport alternatives to at least give people the ability to choose.
I love cars for their ability to take you to wherever you want to go, especially in my country where there’s lots of rural areas and places outside of cities. But it’s true, we need to significantly change the car dependence of a lot of places. It seems America is starting to move into the right direction and stop building so much ridiculous suburban sprawl, but on the other hand my country is now going backwards and building car centric neighbourhoods rather than expanding suburbs like mine which are very walkable and built around public transit. I feel like cars should be banned inside cities and from the centres of big suburbs, it’s a big change but people need to accept it and I think the world would be a much better place with that system. You don’t even really need cars to commute, in my country trains can get you to most cities and a lot of towns and if we invested in that infrastructure again and linked every town back up like they were in the 1800s, you could commute anywhere via the train.
well check the Tokyo rail map and their schedules. The trains will take you anywhere whenever you want to because there's a train every 2 minutes!
Yus! You made a video on one of my most passionate topics. :D
The Southwest US in a nutshell.
I think they need to learn that sprawl doesn't pay the hard way. And that way is building billions of dollars in new electrified trains across LA.
People live where they want to live. As in away from rat hole cities.
@@timburr4453 Some Citys are realy dirt!
This is an interesting video! I guess this explains why the car is so prevalent in today's society, and why my home country (the US) particularly clings so much to the car.
As for the last question, I choose "freedom to choose"! The American once said that the car represents the freedom to travel anywhere. Well, if we have the freedom to ride a car, why not have the freedom to walk, cycle, or ride public transit as well?
Why not have the freedom to bike etc? You do. But since roads allow the greatest possible uses (freight transport, emergency vehicles, personal transportation) that is the main form of transportation in the US.
@@aabb55777 also because the US invented a way to mass produce cars. you _can_ bike, but there's very little infrastructure to actually do it safely.
Town planners really dropped the ball on this one , allowing councils to do what ever they feel like
in Mexico there is no council in many small towns. I bought a place in Tulum and for a place that is supposed to be eco friendly it sure as is car centric. The resorts are building these maze-like places with only once access point, to supposedly have security. But what I think is this is making it harder for the workers that have to get to work in the absolute steam room that the Caribbean is during summer. I was just there and couldn’t fathom how the locals get anything done after walking in circles in that heat
Cities aren't loud, cars are loud
I live out in the country with absolutely no access to public transport. The only way I can get into work is by car. It does feel sort of worth it to me though. My neighbours aren't living on top of me, everything feels less congested and if I need to go out to buy anything it's just a 20 minute drive away.
We mean like, urban areas.
Ok.
But it's possible that a small light/medium rail train could be helpful even in your area.
@@YourCapyFrenBigly_3DPipes1999 You cant just build trains everywear!
@@killerkraut9179 pfftt. Says you.
Quite literally once the backbone of pretty much every society that could make em, trains are traveling perfected.
Great video, glad you had the DRIVE to make it!
Liked the BREAKDOWN of concepts... Get it? Cars breakdown... Sometimes.
the door is right there, *GO BACK TO NORTH KOREA AND DONT COME BACK*
Just got on my break at work, happy to see a new vid
I LOVE DRIVING
Great outline of the point against cars. People say that people in outer, rural areas will not be able to reach the urban areas for their needs, but the idea is not to annihilate every car on the planet but rather to only use them when absolutely necessary.
Cars are not the problem; it's how we plan our cities...
Except that cars are the sole reason we plan our cities that way. So, actually, yes, it is car's fault.
Not because people "choose" to buy them, but because people *already* have bought them.
Nope, name a city that was planned after the car, which has and we can start having a convo limited to that. You're looking at this like it's a chicken or egg problem, when in fact, one definitely did come first.
@@dl6860 *stares confusedly*
You do realize cars have been around for far over 100 years, and that city planning is an active and ongoing process for every city.
If you actually watched the video, it's pretty evident that Tapakapa is talking about how modern city planning is problematic, not about the 1850's or whenever.
As for the second part, no heckin' shifles. Of course, it isn't just one or the other. That's my whole point, that one saying "'Cars are not the problem' city planning is" misses out on the fact that cars are half of the feedback loop.
It might've been unclear what I was trying to say (and for that I apologize), but I'm not trying to refute any of the facts posed in Tapakapa's video. I agree with all of them. I also agree with most of his claims. I merely take issue with the thesis. (And yes, I do recognize that Tapakapa was writing it as a hook, as "clickbait")
the title is inflamitory but I very much agree about the fact that urban sprawl destroys everything.
Cars are also a lot more likely to injure their passengers or pedestrians than other sorts of vehicles just by statistical likelihood- there's more cars than planes and ships, and they operate closer to potential victims. If 40 people take a bus, only one driver has to be capable and responsible; if we assume this is 10 families of 4, that means now 10 people have to be capable and responsible.
Usually those in America there are only one person per car or two people per car unless it’s a family so it’s 40 people might be as many as 40 drivers have to be responsible for driving safety or somewhere between 10 to 30 drivers instead of 10.
Here in rural BC they are spending another half a billion to further widen the highway. Tearing out vast swaths of forest, paving farmland, and eating away at scenic cliffs. We could of had a Greenway, with a food forest for the birds and bees… and have humans actually enjoying what nature has to offer. We are all stuck in a corporate car-culture c$$$ rut, and can’t seem to escape.
Strange, in many of the US's more rural areas they're doing the same. My god it's almost like a sick global conspiracy.....
If you replace it with trains you need tracks!
@@killerkraut9179 So?
@@larrypilcher3791 Are Tracks better?
If you want trains everywear you need tracks everywear!
@@killerkraut9179 well yes. The actual landscape footprint is smaller. Solar installed on the tops reduces infrastructure energy needs in the long run. Helps with the climate crisis asphalt, and fossil fuels problems which car-culture is responsible for. Road kill is mostly eliminated, especially in urban areas. Safety will dramatically be better, especially when speeds are limited. Mag lev in forward thinking countries is popular of course, and elevated trams are sweet. Many out there can’t think outside the tin box Dream Dystopia we bought into. Expense? Wow 😯 we can take a bike or scooter, even a velomobile in for groceries or shopping. Service provided as a social necessity is possible, and could eliminate the pay at the pump gouging that will spike dramatically as post Peak Oil scarcity kicks in. Vehicle repairs can bankrupt people, especially the working poor. Then what? Debt makes more Corporate Slave rat race runners. No more toxic black burnt plastic rubber pouring onto the oceans, which with plastic pollution and acid rain are dying. What else? I could have a friendly chat with someone, instead of fighting traffic, hearing road rage 😤, and contributing to the offensive noise, plus seeing the vehicle pollution from a seat in a car. Fossil Fuel stacked up the trams, and took over the streets, displacing the poor or marginalized neighbourhoods, plunging the countries into debt. Time to stop being killers, and respect life on earth.
Public Transport is not as efficient as well. Take the electric busses or trams. That electricity needs to come from somewhere, which at this moment is mostly from burning coal.
There is potential of electricity to be created from renewables. Combustion engine can be powered only by fossil fueles.
Public transport is much more efficient, because it carries much more passengers than car. 50 people can go by one bus or drive 50 cars. It is obvious which produces less emissions.
I'm not trying to be rude, but you're parroting propaganda. "Efficient" doesn't mean what you're using it to me. Yes, even coal powered electricity is more efficient than Gas, generally. But regardless, one bus, even a very 'inefficient' one, is more efficient than cars as long as it has a few passengers. Few people carpool sadly, so 3 or 4 riders on a bus makes it significantly cleaner than those people all driving on their own. A full bus is getting hundreds of "passenger miles per gallon", while a car tops out at around 5x it's rated MPG if you've packed it to the gills(and who really wants to be in that middle seat?)
Nuclear power. It solves humanity's energy problems pretty easily.
Coal is getting to be more expensive than other energy sources and the companies are bleeding money (also with propaganda like "clean coal") to try to keep the industry alive.
I guess tapakapa hiding his how to solve traffic video under the rug
my family's been living on this farm longer than cars existed, it's really rural, so I don't think it's just cars to blame
This is not about people living on farms. This is about the massive urban sprawl and space in cities being used up by cars.
there are people that should live out in the boonies, and thats oK and should be an option and such people should have cars.
however, modern infrastructure planning FORCES you to live that way.
Rural farmers aren't the issue, it's the half-breed mess that are suburbs. Which often wipe out farms, actually. Most mcMansion developments are on old farmers land driven out by rising property values, leaving productive fields to be turned into an acre of grass a family barely uses
@@Joesolo13 I know, I was just making the comment that cars aren't always the reason for why some stuff is spread out
Best take on this issue I've seen from a non-american. Over here in the trainless land of sprawl, id love a nice railroad or two to get around without paying for gas, insurance, maintenance, registration, etc, and would love to maintain my sanity lost to traffic every day. But alas, the constant increase in taxes continues to get us absolutely nowhere, as funding for public transport seems like a mirage, continually slipping behind the horizon. Every time I see another anti-car ad, I get depressed, because everyone is so obsessed with crucifying the manifestation of the problem instead of building a solution that will remove the need for the problem to exist.
Ideally, everyone should have access to one highly versatile car in their household, *but rarely have to use it.* This would be for spontaneous outings (e.g. a picnic) to a national park or some secluded area on BLM land, or for hauling cargo of some sort.
If we're really being ideal, even that would be limited to rural and semi-rural areas, with car share systems and such filling the holes between transit and active transport.
Ideally everyone would never need to use a car in their life. Basically all of the Netherlands is accessible by bike
@@moosesandmeese969 If you could shrink the size of the United States 10-fold, I would say your idea makes sense, but it's too big for cars to go away entirely, in my opinion.
I think you can just rent cars if you rarely use it lol
If you have a child you often need a car!
Agreed. I'm decompiling a theory on this for years now. 1. The thing u described in the begging with the center and periferial areas is happening on a much bigger scale. There is a range in which its its reasonable to drive a car to, lets say, work. That makes the priferial areas limited in range from the center. 2. Public transportation (buses and service cabs) use the roads too. Public transport should get a huge boost financially and technologically in order to compete with cars.
When I was living in Portland, OR, public transportation was great within the bounds of the city proper and fell off pretty terribly once you left the city limits (transportation to and within larger suburbs/satellite cities like Beaverton and Hillsboro also remained pretty good).
As for the money argument, keep in mind that a car owner has to: 1) buy the car 2) pay for maintnance and insurance 3) pay for fuel.
I was gonna say that whatever you explained in the video is a no-brainer, but it seems that many people (perhaps even the majority) are not willing to limit their driving time, let alone part ways altogether. But again, how can they when the infrastructure is so bad? But, people should still reduce their reliance on cars whenever possible, especially since some people still just drive their cars aimlessly just to "de-stress".
cities should let you choose
Last weekend I drove 400 km - one kid's sport activity, pick up a dog, and to go for dinner. Lol.
@@aabb55777 That's fine since those things are long-distance, takes the whole day and likely not frequent - that's what cars would be useful for. But like going to the supermarket or going to the nearby town for a day out, public transport can suffice.
Sonwhat kind of bicycle do you have? Ive got a Giant OCR2 and a Giant Yukon.
Car bad, bus middling, train good.
plane amazing
@@MrStark-up6fi Planes dump lots more emissions than any other transport method and no one likes being packed in a tube through one door and going through TSA. Trains solve those problems.
@@OBSMProductions still better than cars tho, at least they don’t need a bunch of space on the streets of cities
Trains arent direct and have often problems and hard to used with heavy personel objects and loads and they are often used to oppress people!
This is the video that introduced me to the concept of car dependency, but I wasn't radicalized against it until later
The automobile revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
The biggest misallocation of resources in the history of humans
Is this video and the topic mainly about car dependency? Because I've been a fan and passionate about cars my whole life, especially with motorsports. I'd appreciate it if someone were to give helpful insight, since I'm prone to overthinking things too easily.
You shouldn't need to have a car to buy groceries tho.
(breaks through the walls)
''small motorcycle""
What... Don't you live in Vienna? Because that sounds like an American thing.
It's not. It's happening in Austria too.
There are even parts of Vienna that are very hard to reach without a car.
@@Tapakapa I mean, how you gonna get a bus up a mountain.
How many here cause fooled into thinking this was a CGP grey secondary channel from the picture?
Funny. Elon Musk’s new Tesla factory on the outskirts of Berlin is exactly like that. People will need to drive there or live ridiculously nearby (and away from civilization at the same time).
Well Elon is just a corporate greenwasher anyhow.
Where else would they build a massive factory
That is a good thing, putting factories away from towns, who wants that pollution nearby? it is fine to have jobs away from towns, but people who work in the town, should be able to walk to work. It is the commercial activity fleeing towns that kills them, if a factory moves to the outskirts, but the businesses stay in town, that is still fine
well yeah, bc they're still a car company at the end of the day
ok so lets build the massive building in the center of a city that has existed for like a thousands years. just so workers can walk up to a building so huge that its quicker to take a car and drive to the other side of it than walk though it
where i live, nowhere in the city is outside of a 10 minute walk from a tram stop
Not me getting an ad for a car dealership before the video started....
I wished the video focused more on the poor zoning that makes single family and out of town malls so common. People and businesses want to live in the centre, but can’t cos of zoning laws.
Yeah. Multi-use zoning really seems to be the way to go. Or maybe I am biased because I would not want to live on the ground floor in a city.
Why do people want to live in the center, its always full of drunks and drug addicts. The housing is semi-commie blocks and always rotten, just live in the suburb and drive a motorcycle or something.
@@aarosundvall I currently live in a nice little flat. I can walk to the train station, multiple different grocery stores and countless restaurants in a couple of minutes. Public transport departs in multiple directions with less than 10 minute intervals each. I sometimes even walk to university, although taking my bicycle or public transport is faster. Why on earth would I want to depend on having a motorbike and spend more time commuting?
@@aarosundvallnice suggestion, i don’t know how appealing it is to suggest a long commute full of stress
I like how he reassures the cars themselves it’s not their fault specifically
Good thing that here in the Netherlands there's not a lot of space left to do that.
Unless we make more of course
First video I’ve watched of yours, awesome stuff!
I love driving my car, it is comfortable, no one smells there, it saves me a lot of time and some jobs it was just impossible to go there by public transport or bike. But for my groceries, barber, pharmacy, and all the services you can imagine, I can just walk there in 5-15 minutes, or go by tram, bus or metro. Cars arent bad, but you have to have a choice. Car dependency is bad. Also public transport is way cheaper, so for someone having to drive to their minimum wage job is insane. I love that I can chose, to take a tram or a car, or getting my groceries in 10 minutes, including the walking time. America should change, for their people to have the freedom, it will take time, but at least people are realising that there is a problem
_America should change, for their people to have the freedom, it will take time, but at least people are realising that there is a problem_
Funny you talk about freedom because freedom often come out from American to argue AGAINST public transport. "muh freedom in danger" "muh freedom"
Not even only public transport, you also have train.. for such a country, their railway network is rather poor.
@@Ludo045@peepa47 sounds center, and if you have been doing enough research, center is right wing
Motorcycles are such a happy medium that should have been more encouraged. Its sad NA has turned them into a niche hobby. They are so much more efficient
Yeah there is a reason why people in poor dense cities drive mbs
They are dangerous for the drivers and cant transport much!
I recently got into driving, and it's really enjoyable for me to go around the city wherever you can. I see cars becoming a double-edged sword.
On one hand you have this ability to drive great distances in minutes whereas it would usually take you an hour with public transport (I've been there), but on the other hand it creates pollution, separates places with asphalt, creates bad air and of course it warms up the planet. Electric cars might be the solution, but they only solve the bad air and climate change to a degree.
I wish I could make the transition, but hearing the sound of the engine has grown on me, and I think that's what's holding most of us back to the EV transition. Donut Media has great videos on EV's, so if you're interested, give them a watch :)
Thank you for making interesting content. Keep it up!
The solution is to give people options. The Netherlands is often ranked as one of the best countries for drivers, which is surprising to some, but one bicycle on the road means one less car on the road, assuming people drive alone, which is usually the case. When people can safely and conveniently walk and cycle around their communities, and park 7 bicycles in the same space it takes to park one car, that makes life easier for people who absolutely DO need to drive, like folks with reduced mobility, delivery vehicles, etc. Forcing people into car dependency by not providing safe sidewalks, reliable public transport, and a connected, segregated cycling network makes it so you have to drive absolutely everywhere, hence why rush hour quickly turns into hours in car-friendly cities.
Electric cars don't solve the problem of "the arrogance of space" - a term I really like. Cars are just the least efficient way of moving people around a city. Not saying more car-friendly places shouldn't exist. Some people want a more rural and peaceful lifestyle, but when we're talking about _cities_ I fiercely believe that, although people love to pretend otherwise, we need each other. We're social animals. Forget population _size_ , the places with a high degree of population _density_ where people have frequent opportunities for spontaneous, unplanned interaction, are the places with the greatest degree of community and social trust. Walkable small villages with public squares can achieve this.
Of course, what I'm saying applies to denser, mixed-use places. US cities are so spread out and housing so separate from businesses that a lot of what I'm arguing for is unfeasible (I'm in the UK where cities are denser and more walkable) but apply what I'm saying in the context of a US downtown. That's where the change first needs to happen.
The fact, which you have forgot to tell your audience. We Viennese don't move to the periphery because of the cars or the expensive rents, we move because vienna have become a cloaca.
Vienna has become a what?
an instant classic. i love it!
This doesn’t address the fact that people want to live out in rural areas already and this provides them with easier access to resources and things. Big cities still have everything within walking distance, and so do lots of suburban areas more or less, but this just makes things less centered in cities.
Cars are one of the greatest inventions ever
cope
@@DaBigBoo_not a cope it’s true. Some of the greatest engineering feats have been in the automotive industry. Motorsports is awesome.
@@DaBigBoo_ Trains are often used to opress people!
@@floppa933weapons of war are cool, but war is absolutely not one of the greatest inventions. Same with cars.
Cope
I haven’t watched this channel in a while
Me after searching up tapakapa properly without it being takapaka or takakapa: IM STILL WORTHY
I think we all know what to do now...
Move to the Netherlands where it’s illegal to drive cars on almost every road
Not quite, but yeah the netherlands have been pretty nice everytime I visited.
When I first visited amsterdam I thought it was sunday or a holiday or something, because there were so few cars on the road.
But in retrospect its just because everyone bikes, walks or uses public transport much more. So even the people who need to use a car profit from it.
That's insane hyperbole lmao but for real, I live in the UK and it would be a dream to live in the Netherlands. Having affinity for the culture, and the great location within Europe is a part of it, but just the infrastructure alone is reason enough for me.
I live in California so, it bugs me so much because I'm forced to waste so much money on car stuff