I don’t know the exact values, but Khajiit wouldn’t be more than 2k from dark elf most likely, and I don’t see Breton being more than 2-3k off of that. Hope that helps!
Hi, ive just started a Mag Warden im confused to why when casting screaming cliff racer i have the same 2 buff icons displayed and not just the 1? The tooltip says 10 seconds of weapon damage and the icon buff shows the same 2 buffs with the same timer for both icons?
Great guide and very helpful! How do the changes to Blast and ice damage for those under 30k health affect this? Would it be better to run an inferno staff instead of the ice staff now and replace Arctic Blast?
Are we supposed to run 2 arena weapons in this build? If i was to run whorls/nirn, should i just the masters ice staff? A little confused as to how i would then have a 2H backbar since i would need 2 staffs
im wanting to do a crit build with moras whispers and slimecraw helm. any chance you'd know a couple of good sets to fill in the gap for a staff based warden? and yes i already grabbed almost every lorebook in the game lmao it was a grind.
I only talked about Blue because red and green don’t really matter at all, the the red tree is somewhat trial specific. I usually do Boundless Vitality, Celerity, Expert Evasion, and Rejuvination, but it’s all preference.
I am not sure of the exact value but it’s a lot 😅 You could look at the cmx and see that you’re losing a good chunk of literal dps from removing clench and chilled damage, and then guesstimate another 5% or so of a loss from removing the masters buff
Hey man thank you very much for this amazing guide ! i have few question about setup in content : For aoe boss situtation, is it better to take a maelstrom staff on back bar or anything else? If so, inferno staff or ice staff? sry for my bad english ^^
it is always useful unless you reach crit dmg cap which only happens in optimzed groups. And by then you most likely have atleast non perfected trial gear
I mean it’s alright, it’s just only buffs a few abilities in this toolkit, since the damage bonus to chilled and brittle enemies is worth about at much as minor slayer from a trial set
Skills just scale off your highest offensive stats these days! There was a time where Stam costing skills only scaled off of "Stam Stats" and same with Mag, but it no longer matters :)
is this still good because its quite difficult to find reliable guides for dps warden and seeing how i did really well with your arcanist i think ill stick to this channel although idk how much worse this is now since this is from half a year ago
Very few fights can be done exactly like this but I’ve seen it replicated in sunspire and on fights like Taleria. Some things should change here and there fight to fight, as with any class
I think maybe you should explain that the weapon enchants for dual wielding does not apply to your builds so people are less confused about what to add for the set up you have
It looks like you're using a controller, but it also looks like you're using addons. Can you provide a list of controller safe addons you use if I'm correct? I've seen too many say they are not controller compatible and others say 'try at your own risk'
I personally have never run into an add on that I couldn’t use with a controller: I can’t use the controller to use the add on, maybe that’s what they’re referring to?
@@eigh1puppies I just tend to avoid addons eventhough people say the are really useful on PC. Reason is because some of them say "no controller support" or "unknown controller support" right in their descriptions. I heard from someone that the trade add on doesn't add prices to the inventory if you're using a controller but I've not verified that.
It's ridiculous in a game with dozens if not hundreds of sets, to stick in such a tight meta for months if not years of the same, not to mention a game that's proud of its false concept "play whatever you want, however you want". Do not misunderstand me, i love ESO, but it's a little bit frustrating and discouraging to play exactly the same for everything, no matters the class or race, will always be Relequen, Coral and Pillar on top, with a few more options of course with the risk of not doing same amout of top DPS, even when not needed 90% of the time, out of 12 skills including ultimates, all builds will use the same 6-8, flex options are only because different classes have different ones, but to be honest except for 1 or 2 really unique, all others are different versions of the same concepts. I consider far more honest, for example in FF, that all Ninjas will be using almost the exact same build, or all Black mages, or all Dancers, or bards... you name it, yet different between each other same in gear as in playstyle, and will be like that only for 4 months untill the new raid comes out, then rotates. In ESO iv'e been equiping my 6 different DPS with 70% same gear, 70% same skills, and play 70% alike. Why no one else seems to accept it in the same honest way i do, even when as i said before i love the game. Can´t imagine how much love could that become if not so repetitive and tedious.
The game is absolutely play how you want lol, you just want to be the best and that's why you keep using bis gear. Everything you just said is end game meta set ups to squeeze the most out of a build as possible in order to get the trifectas in the most difficult content in the game, which is essential only 5% of the game. I have 15 characters currently and only 3 are set up optimally just for skins and achievements in the most difficult content. The other 12 are completely off the wall builds. Are they hitting 135k parses? Of course not. Some of them are only hitting like 30k but they can still get through 95% of the game. So play how you want. If any hodge podge set up could run a Vet trials this game would be dead. My stam warden for instance is running ashen grip , red mountain bow (bb), infernal gaurdian (monster), titanic cleave 2h (fb). Its a blast, fire everywhere, volcanic eruptions, huge trash cleaves, mortars flying everywhere its really fun to play, but you won't see me queuing up Vhof with that. I have an Argonian dk healer wearing combat physician, and imperium with earth gore monster set. Stacks of dmg shields, really fun but not optimal for endgame content. Itll do majority of vet dungeons. Play how you want and have fun man. Don't get sucked into thinking that you have to parse 135k on every dps toon you have. Go watch hack the minotaur, skinny cheeks, xynode they are great content creators that have tons of off meta builds. You can drive whatever car you want, it may not be the fastest but if you like the way it looks and you enjoy driving it then ultimately your gonna be happy. And a correction its not dozens of sets lol there are close to over 600 sets. Play how you want man.
@@tribounty1392 Thank you very much, i really appreciate your point of view, and i absolutely agree, i have off meta builds myself, and surely are fun to play. Of course my trifectas have been achieved with an absolute meta approach. However i've done vet trials (not trifectas or even HM but vets anyway) with those off meta builds,, but if someone in those groups knows i'm doing so, i would be kicked rightaway, even if it's totally doable. I think that kind of people is what makes me mad with meta, but you are right my friend, and i thank you for remember me those things.
There is something to be said for mmos though that do have a very healthy and diverse endgame. If that doesn’t exist, then you leave room for people to gatekeep roster spots based on requirements of xyz setups. Not that this is right, but more so reality. I’d love to see a word where the meta was naturally a bit more diverse, and where playing a different class truly felt different. I think they’re on the right track with the Arc :)
@@eigh1puppies Ark is, that's true, but i really feel that in FF, it's so different playing a Summoner than a Samurai, or a Machinist, or a Paladin compared to Darknight, idk might be only my own perception, but i do believe so, anyway, still waiting for some like Blue Protocol, Chrono Odyssey or Ashes of Creation to see if the genre still has a hidden trick to show
@ivanchon I use the meta set ups and apply them to my own theory crafted stuff for pve. I use the rotations I learned from doing 130k , and apply that to a niche build that with the right set up but now hits 85k dps ( more than enough for all vet content ). I could run what he runs on his magden, or I can hit 85k with my frostbite / whorl of depths/ masters ice and maelstrom ice staff ice build I made. Just ice abilities ( as many as I can). 85k for a build I made up that I personally thought would work and fit the ice theme and I'm an imperial. The point is , don't worry too much about these videos. This is completely min maxed out set ups. I would just learn what you can and try to apply that to your own builds I guess. This game is ruled by math so just figure out which is the best and go from there 🤔
Все сводится к одному - двум метасетам. Нет уникальности снаряжения, к сожалению. Когда я пришел в игру 5 лет назад, я думал что здесь будет опенворлд пвп, я смогу играть каджитом разбойником и выполнять заказы на игроков определённой расы и класса... Я любил WoW, во времена танариса, вьетнама (тернистая долина), блекрока и другого пвп в открытом мире. Как же я ошибался 😢 Здесь я познакомился с интересными людьми, собрал все коллекции, прошел все сюжеты, поиграл на всех классах и ролях, стал императором (когда это можно было получить только хорошо играя в пвп в хорошем альянсе). Я собрал все доступные коллекции, оборудовал несколько домов, как в Sims. Мне стало скучно, я не чувствую уникальности своих персонажей и сборок.
My Magcika Warden Build Attribute points: Health 64 5 medium 2 light Waist is always light Shoulder or head light depends on mythic No monster sets just 1 set bonuses that give crit. 5 order wrath 2 or 3 gryphon set jewlery depends on mythic. Weapons master ice staff and maelstrom ice staff. Mundus stone: the shadow Traits: divine for gear, bloodthirsty for jewelry, backwards weapon infused, front bar weapon charged. Mythic options: mora whispers, sea serpent, majesty. Enchantments Front weapon frost damage Backwards weapon damage Jewelry damage Gear magicka Use vampirism (stage is up to you) Front bar skills Deep fissure Frost reach Screaming cliff racer Fetcher infection Bird of prey Wild guardian (just for passive bonus) or swarming scion Backbar skills Unstable wall of frost Lotus blossom Winter's revenge Blue Betty Aractic blast Ice comet or dawnbreaker or northen storm Champion points Put the ones that increase crit, damage, health, armor, recovery, movement speed. Rotation Note to put in heavy attacks in the middle. Lotus blossom>blue betty>unstable wall of frost>Winter's revenge>aractic blast(if there is close range attackers) Hit ultimate on Backwards Switch to Front bar Deep fissure>screaming cliff racer>fetcher infection(optional)>frost reach(spam it with heavy attacks) Other skills can be swapped in place of AOE and fetcher for more defense.
And even if it was on PTS, thanks to the PTS, cause imagine test build all variante stuff ect, that's gonna be expensive as f, don't be mad cause u don't have it xD
Love thosr complexe and well made guides!
Shia LaBeouf does suprisingly good ESO build videos, 10/10 would recommend to a friend
LMFAO
Hey man thanks for the update. Could you please list the dps difference between breton khajiit and dark elf? Appreciate it!
I don’t know the exact values, but Khajiit wouldn’t be more than 2k from dark elf most likely, and I don’t see Breton being more than 2-3k off of that. Hope that helps!
@@eigh1puppies appreciate it thanks! For real Breton only like 5k behind dark elf?
@@dirtsapient9638 should be, it’s only missing 250 spell damage which equates to like a 2% damage loss I believe, not 100% on that value though
Attempting this now. How the hail am I supposed to sustain all these stamina skills? Lol @@eigh1puppies
@@dirtsapient9638 crunchy spider skewer
Hi, ive just started a Mag Warden im confused to why when casting screaming cliff racer i have the same 2 buff icons displayed and not just the 1? The tooltip says 10 seconds of weapon damage and the icon buff shows the same 2 buffs with the same timer for both icons?
I think one is the increase and one would be the amplified damage for hitting off balance targets maybe?
thank you for making this video ❤
Great guide and very helpful! How do the changes to Blast and ice damage for those under 30k health affect this? Would it be better to run an inferno staff instead of the ice staff now and replace Arctic Blast?
I'm not entirely positive I think those changes happened pretty recently and I haven't had a chance to test since then :/
What are your thoughts on the Frostbite and Ice Furnace sets?
It seems like a fun RP setup, but no where near close for best damage rn
@@eigh1puppies Oh yikes. Too bad then. I wish sets dedicated to a single damage type were at least good at what they do.
Are we supposed to run 2 arena weapons in this build? If i was to run whorls/nirn, should i just the masters ice staff? A little confused as to how i would then have a 2H backbar since i would need 2 staffs
Yup just 1 5 piece in this build!
Ty for the video
im wanting to do a crit build with moras whispers and slimecraw helm. any chance you'd know a couple of good sets to fill in the gap for a staff based warden? and yes i already grabbed almost every lorebook in the game lmao it was a grind.
If you wanna get super cheeky with crit chance run that + mothers sorrow and Medusa XD
So when you talked about cp you only talked about the main 4 what about red tree?
I only talked about Blue because red and green don’t really matter at all, the the red tree is somewhat trial specific. I usually do Boundless Vitality, Celerity, Expert Evasion, and Rejuvination, but it’s all preference.
what about gift of vanus set??
Wisdom of Vanus?
How much damage am I losing by not running the masters ice staff on warden? Are there any calculations for this ?
I am not sure of the exact value but it’s a lot 😅
You could look at the cmx and see that you’re losing a good chunk of literal dps from removing clench and chilled damage, and then guesstimate another 5% or so of a loss from removing the masters buff
Where are you getting your major prophecy or sorcery buffs? Mag pots?
Yup just from potions
Hey man thank you very much for this amazing guide ! i have few question about setup in content :
For aoe boss situtation, is it better to take a maelstrom staff on back bar or anything else? If so, inferno staff or ice staff?
sry for my bad english ^^
Thank you!
Maelstrom backbar is great for trash, I’d go inferno!
@@eigh1puppies Well I got 127k in 1h of parsing with this build. Thx a lot man ❤
GOOD SHIT!
Is order's wraith still useful in 12 man content? Where your more likely to hit crit cap?
It's useful in 100% of game, maybe not SUPER ULTRA OPTIMAL in some situations, yet you can aim at ANY achievement using it.
it is always useful unless you reach crit dmg cap which only happens in optimzed groups. And by then you most likely have atleast non perfected trial gear
Yeah it’s for sure good in organized/unoptimized groups, never really “meta” but it’s very good still
I love the video. it is really good
Thank you! It’s the Mazzatun chest!
Is the Frostbite set any good for a beginner set? Are the percentage boosts worth it??
I mean it’s alright, it’s just only buffs a few abilities in this toolkit, since the damage bonus to chilled and brittle enemies is worth about at much as minor slayer from a trial set
Any changes with Gold Road?
Not at the moment, haven't had a ton of chances to test but nothing peaks my interest
Good video. no arch video this patch?
Arc isn’t really changing so probably not!
What if I were sworn to carry my own burdens and play as Nord with this build, what would I change?
I would maybe add the betty over executioner or carve :)
Quick Question: why are u running fully magicka but most of the skills are stamina based? This reduced dmg a lot? No?
Skills just scale off your highest offensive stats these days! There was a time where Stam costing skills only scaled off of "Stam Stats" and same with Mag, but it no longer matters :)
@@eigh1puppies I had no idea! That frees up a lot of builds - guessing you just need to think about sustain then?
How well does this run in u43?
Not quite as much damage but still pretty well
Could you mby make a necromancer update and mag arcanist update
Mag Arc doesnt need an update atm, but cro def does!
is this still good because its quite difficult to find reliable guides for dps warden and seeing how i did really well with your arcanist i think ill stick to this channel although idk how much worse this is now since this is from half a year ago
I don’t know exactly how much better/worse this should be doing but it should be similar, not too much has changed
@@eigh1puppies if its still around the same damage then all good i really like your guides its really easy to follow
@ love to hear it thank you!
interesting with these rebuff how will u pull this of in content
Very few fights can be done exactly like this but I’ve seen it replicated in sunspire and on fights like Taleria.
Some things should change here and there fight to fight, as with any class
I think maybe you should explain that the weapon enchants for dual wielding does not apply to your builds so people are less confused about what to add for the set up you have
I'm actively working on better ways to prevent the traits and enchants section specifically :)
What are you wearing when u parsed
It’s a bit of a mouthful but there’s a clean picture linked in the description!
@@eigh1puppies also what potions do u use
It looks like you're using a controller, but it also looks like you're using addons. Can you provide a list of controller safe addons you use if I'm correct? I've seen too many say they are not controller compatible and others say 'try at your own risk'
I personally have never run into an add on that I couldn’t use with a controller: I can’t use the controller to use the add on, maybe that’s what they’re referring to?
@@eigh1puppies I just tend to avoid addons eventhough people say the are really useful on PC. Reason is because some of them say "no controller support" or "unknown controller support" right in their descriptions. I heard from someone that the trade add on doesn't add prices to the inventory if you're using a controller but I've not verified that.
@@xavierdoesntmatter like I said, I use controller, and I’ve never personally experienced any issues :)
@@eigh1puppies I get that. I was just saying I was surprised based on what I've seen on the addons themselves or in youtube videos before yours
It's ridiculous in a game with dozens if not hundreds of sets, to stick in such a tight meta for months if not years of the same, not to mention a game that's proud of its false concept "play whatever you want, however you want". Do not misunderstand me, i love ESO, but it's a little bit frustrating and discouraging to play exactly the same for everything, no matters the class or race, will always be Relequen, Coral and Pillar on top, with a few more options of course with the risk of not doing same amout of top DPS, even when not needed 90% of the time, out of 12 skills including ultimates, all builds will use the same 6-8, flex options are only because different classes have different ones, but to be honest except for 1 or 2 really unique, all others are different versions of the same concepts. I consider far more honest, for example in FF, that all Ninjas will be using almost the exact same build, or all Black mages, or all Dancers, or bards... you name it, yet different between each other same in gear as in playstyle, and will be like that only for 4 months untill the new raid comes out, then rotates. In ESO iv'e been equiping my 6 different DPS with 70% same gear, 70% same skills, and play 70% alike. Why no one else seems to accept it in the same honest way i do, even when as i said before i love the game. Can´t imagine how much love could that become if not so repetitive and tedious.
The game is absolutely play how you want lol, you just want to be the best and that's why you keep using bis gear. Everything you just said is end game meta set ups to squeeze the most out of a build as possible in order to get the trifectas in the most difficult content in the game, which is essential only 5% of the game. I have 15 characters currently and only 3 are set up optimally just for skins and achievements in the most difficult content. The other 12 are completely off the wall builds. Are they hitting 135k parses? Of course not. Some of them are only hitting like 30k but they can still get through 95% of the game. So play how you want. If any hodge podge set up could run a Vet trials this game would be dead. My stam warden for instance is running ashen grip , red mountain bow (bb), infernal gaurdian (monster), titanic cleave 2h (fb). Its a blast, fire everywhere, volcanic eruptions, huge trash cleaves, mortars flying everywhere its really fun to play, but you won't see me queuing up Vhof with that. I have an Argonian dk healer wearing combat physician, and imperium with earth gore monster set. Stacks of dmg shields, really fun but not optimal for endgame content. Itll do majority of vet dungeons. Play how you want and have fun man. Don't get sucked into thinking that you have to parse 135k on every dps toon you have. Go watch hack the minotaur, skinny cheeks, xynode they are great content creators that have tons of off meta builds. You can drive whatever car you want, it may not be the fastest but if you like the way it looks and you enjoy driving it then ultimately your gonna be happy. And a correction its not dozens of sets lol there are close to over 600 sets. Play how you want man.
@@tribounty1392 Thank you very much, i really appreciate your point of view, and i absolutely agree, i have off meta builds myself, and surely are fun to play. Of course my trifectas have been achieved with an absolute meta approach. However i've done vet trials (not trifectas or even HM but vets anyway) with those off meta builds,, but if someone in those groups knows i'm doing so, i would be kicked rightaway, even if it's totally doable. I think that kind of people is what makes me mad with meta, but you are right my friend, and i thank you for remember me those things.
There is something to be said for mmos though that do have a very healthy and diverse endgame. If that doesn’t exist, then you leave room for people to gatekeep roster spots based on requirements of xyz setups.
Not that this is right, but more so reality. I’d love to see a word where the meta was naturally a bit more diverse, and where playing a different class truly felt different. I think they’re on the right track with the Arc :)
@@eigh1puppies Ark is, that's true, but i really feel that in FF, it's so different playing a Summoner than a Samurai, or a Machinist, or a Paladin compared to Darknight, idk might be only my own perception, but i do believe so, anyway, still waiting for some like Blue Protocol, Chrono Odyssey or Ashes of Creation to see if the genre still has a hidden trick to show
@ivanchon I use the meta set ups and apply them to my own theory crafted stuff for pve. I use the rotations I learned from doing 130k , and apply that to a niche build that with the right set up but now hits 85k dps ( more than enough for all vet content ). I could run what he runs on his magden, or I can hit 85k with my frostbite / whorl of depths/ masters ice and maelstrom ice staff ice build I made. Just ice abilities ( as many as I can). 85k for a build I made up that I personally thought would work and fit the ice theme and I'm an imperial.
The point is , don't worry too much about these videos. This is completely min maxed out set ups. I would just learn what you can and try to apply that to your own builds I guess. This game is ruled by math so just figure out which is the best and go from there 🤔
Все сводится к одному - двум метасетам. Нет уникальности снаряжения, к сожалению. Когда я пришел в игру 5 лет назад, я думал что здесь будет опенворлд пвп, я смогу играть каджитом разбойником и выполнять заказы на игроков определённой расы и класса... Я любил WoW, во времена танариса, вьетнама (тернистая долина), блекрока и другого пвп в открытом мире. Как же я ошибался 😢
Здесь я познакомился с интересными людьми, собрал все коллекции, прошел все сюжеты, поиграл на всех классах и ролях, стал императором (когда это можно было получить только хорошо играя в пвп в хорошем альянсе). Я собрал все доступные коллекции, оборудовал несколько домов, как в Sims. Мне стало скучно, я не чувствую уникальности своих персонажей и сборок.
My Magcika Warden Build
Attribute points: Health 64
5 medium
2 light
Waist is always light
Shoulder or head light depends on mythic
No monster sets just 1 set bonuses that give crit.
5 order wrath
2 or 3 gryphon set jewlery depends on mythic.
Weapons master ice staff and maelstrom ice staff.
Mundus stone: the shadow
Traits: divine for gear, bloodthirsty for jewelry, backwards weapon infused, front bar weapon charged.
Mythic options: mora whispers, sea serpent, majesty.
Enchantments
Front weapon frost damage
Backwards weapon damage
Jewelry damage
Gear magicka
Use vampirism (stage is up to you)
Front bar skills
Deep fissure
Frost reach
Screaming cliff racer
Fetcher infection
Bird of prey
Wild guardian (just for passive bonus) or swarming scion
Backbar skills
Unstable wall of frost
Lotus blossom
Winter's revenge
Blue Betty
Aractic blast
Ice comet or dawnbreaker or northen storm
Champion points
Put the ones that increase crit, damage, health, armor, recovery, movement speed.
Rotation
Note to put in heavy attacks in the middle.
Lotus blossom>blue betty>unstable wall of frost>Winter's revenge>aractic blast(if there is close range attackers)
Hit ultimate on Backwards
Switch to Front bar
Deep fissure>screaming cliff racer>fetcher infection(optional)>frost reach(spam it with heavy attacks)
Other skills can be swapped in place of AOE and fetcher for more defense.
ele SUS???
In french i heard "elle suce" that's mean "she suck" 🤣
another video with pts parses. where are live server tests
What does that even mean? The 134 is a live parse?
@@eigh1puppies maan, eso.rc.9.3.4.. is a pts server
@@eigh1puppies 😂😂😂 get’em
And even if it was on PTS, thanks to the PTS, cause imagine test build all variante stuff ect, that's gonna be expensive as f, don't be mad cause u don't have it xD