The thing I loved about "back then" was that it was just a bunch of pals in a computer lab or a LAN party. None of us were experts who optimized the fun out of the game. None of us were so good that weird maps would matter. And you got to enjoy the pleasure of doing things in game that were far from optimal plays, but were just so darn fun.
actually in the 2nd game Dynamic might be scouting for the Cruiser rush. I used to do double Cruiser rush on this map, against Soviet it's quite the show, since they don't do Submarines usually.
1:37 The reason is probably that games like Red Alert 1 were not made with multiplayer in mind. Online games weren’t much of a thing back then. The main goal were the singleplayer campaigns.
I very much doubt this was the Dynamic who finished the last few season ranked #1 on the leaderboard playing these matches. DeathMetal is currently ranked 671st and they beat this player. ABEgrone is currently ranked outside the top 1000, it would be odd for Dynamic to be matched against someone ranked that low. It's just someone random on the leaderboard who copied the name of one of Dynamic's account. Based on the strategies and build orders and stuff, this isn't high level Red Alert Remastered gameplay, although the flame tower rush is a strategy that a lot of high level players use on that map (Canyon) when they are Soviets playing against Allies. Interesting matches though.
that combination of bad luck, ineptitude, bad AI pathing, and probably tabbing to a different spot on the map at the worst time has got to be one of the funniest things i've seen in RA. and that's coming from a dude that's seen RC1985's shenanigans.
doubt we´ll see any change to meta anyway as this game got support for what ? ... 2 months? 3? so it´ll be pretty much tankrush to until there is a propper RA remake or Sybert decides to do a OpenRA cast if he wants to ...
Hopefully there will be a console port I have been playing C&C on Playstation's for over 20 year's it would be great to see these games back on console.
Definitely weird games. I'm pretty sure the meta wouldn't have changed since the game is infinity years old, so I'd assume just very casual playing. It's weird to see the juxtaposition of knowing the maps (e.g. MCV placement in game 1, base creep strat in game 3) but not really trying (poor ref placement, goofy build with deliberately low eco, lazy tank micro). I did like that last game though.
What a weird take. Especially since games with symmetrical maps still require knowledge of how your opponent can use aspects of the map to their advantage or how you could use it to your advantage. Much better than just having one spawning location be inherently better than the other.
Aftermath expansion would help this a bit, but I think EA missed their opportunity to put some balance changes on the multiplayer parts of the game. I played the original RA on cncnet for 5 years and am considered very good, but I do support the concept of balance as seen in newer games. It could have still been about tanks as the core unit since Q-move takes some skill, but the other units could have been more supplementary to the success of the tanks.
15:30 *ACTUALLY NO* ... thew 'modern' balancing prevents you from pushing times below a certain limit. I tried. All it does is give you a backup and put all in one spot ... well... not that great ps unless they play old balancing, where you could crush times ez... which i doubt from what i see Oo 21:10 *nope new balancing* ... tesla coils rapid fire and then briefly load longer (meant to deal with infantry better)
Can be pretty expensive. Not many players bother cos then you'd be at a tank disadvantage. Air is expensive and can be easily dealt with n navy is only good for certain maps
DyNaMic is (was?) a top player, but these games are not a good showing of that. In late May and early June I casted games showing DyNaMic vs BikeRush and then vs rawsteel and those series were much more fast, aggressive, and active. Those were more typical of what I was familiar with Red Alert Remastered games being like. These are just weird games.
I casted OpenRA a long time ago. Haven't jumped back into it. Nothing against OpenRA and from what I hear it's a better competitive game, just haven't taken the plunge.
@@OneSybert I've seen it ;-) but good to know that you acknowledge this stuff. Ora is much more balanced and not a tank spam fest and has better options for casters. For inspiration Five Aces does great in casting Ora.
![Red Alert Remastered Speedrun - Allied Campaign in 1:17:58 [Hard]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/R_HS9NSIwpw/mqdefault.jpg)
The thing I loved about "back then" was that it was just a bunch of pals in a computer lab or a LAN party. None of us were experts who optimized the fun out of the game. None of us were so good that weird maps would matter. And you got to enjoy the pleasure of doing things in game that were far from optimal plays, but were just so darn fun.
the slow decent into Madness actually is kinda funny
Well great games but really strange strategies used, kinda liked that, usually it's just tanks and rifleman, nice to see something else
actually in the 2nd game Dynamic might be scouting for the Cruiser rush.
I used to do double Cruiser rush on this map, against Soviet it's quite the show, since they don't do Submarines usually.
OK, that makes a lot of sense. Quick water scout, keep the naval yard around until he's sure what the other guy is going for.
@@OneSybert yes exactly. would be only better if you could back-drop some riflemen in the base backyard and possibly snipe that MCV. :-)
Do you have any strategies for Docklands?
I was thinking engineer rush..but cyan had infantry guarding the beach. Could've used the other one though....
Yes, a second video for us to watch, so shortly after the other one. Thanks SYBERT!!
1:37 The reason is probably that games like Red Alert 1 were not made with multiplayer in mind. Online games weren’t much of a thing back then. The main goal were the singleplayer campaigns.
Wow! Releasing videos in quick succession! Thanks, Sybert! =)
I very much doubt this was the Dynamic who finished the last few season ranked #1 on the leaderboard playing these matches. DeathMetal is currently ranked 671st and they beat this player. ABEgrone is currently ranked outside the top 1000, it would be odd for Dynamic to be matched against someone ranked that low. It's just someone random on the leaderboard who copied the name of one of Dynamic's account. Based on the strategies and build orders and stuff, this isn't high level Red Alert Remastered gameplay, although the flame tower rush is a strategy that a lot of high level players use on that map (Canyon) when they are Soviets playing against Allies. Interesting matches though.
that combination of bad luck, ineptitude, bad AI pathing, and probably tabbing to a different spot on the map at the worst time has got to be one of the funniest things i've seen in RA. and that's coming from a dude that's seen RC1985's shenanigans.
17:10 never did versus expect for friends but even would have found that. Exploring the map with 2 soldiers is the lowest of low moves
That last game was odd but very funny
1:18 The nice thing with asymmetrical maps is they allow players with different skill levels to play on the same map.
incredibleeee the last match was crazy!!!!
Its actually raining right now lol
Is there no aggressive mode for units in the remaster?
I don’t think so… now I’m trying to remember if they added attack-moving or not… I don’t think you have either.
Last battle very good
doubt we´ll see any change to meta anyway as this game got support for what ? ... 2 months? 3?
so it´ll be pretty much tankrush to until there is a propper RA remake or Sybert decides to do a OpenRA cast if he wants to ...
Bottom right got LESS RESOURCES on his side of the RIVER... so its a early vs late game thing
how can i spectate like this?
I just download replays in game and watch them.
@@OneSybert how to download?
Hopefully there will be a console port I have been playing C&C on Playstation's for over 20 year's it would be great to see these games back on console.
I don’t think they’ll ever port this to console.
hope more tib down cowere way more strategy there and maps to know and build order etc
wow conpared to Kanes wrath these gameplays look so strange. really weird games
Is the same dynamic from the past kane s wrath?
I'm 99% sure it is.
Holyshit must’ve lost all skill, from unbeatable rank 1 to rank 800 in such a short amount of time
Definitely weird games. I'm pretty sure the meta wouldn't have changed since the game is infinity years old, so I'd assume just very casual playing. It's weird to see the juxtaposition of knowing the maps (e.g. MCV placement in game 1, base creep strat in game 3) but not really trying (poor ref placement, goofy build with deliberately low eco, lazy tank micro).
I did like that last game though.
1:40 symetric maps are boring AF. It removes all map knowledge required. its also boring to look at
What a weird take. Especially since games with symmetrical maps still require knowledge of how your opponent can use aspects of the map to their advantage or how you could use it to your advantage. Much better than just having one spawning location be inherently better than the other.
I am convinced the one downvote I see is Sybert lamenting the state of the C&C meta.
Aftermath expansion would help this a bit, but I think EA missed their opportunity to put some balance changes on the multiplayer parts of the game. I played the original RA on cncnet for 5 years and am considered very good, but I do support the concept of balance as seen in newer games. It could have still been about tanks as the core unit since Q-move takes some skill, but the other units could have been more supplementary to the success of the tanks.
15:30 *ACTUALLY NO* ... thew 'modern' balancing prevents you from pushing times below a certain limit. I tried.
All it does is give you a backup and put all in one spot ... well... not that great
ps unless they play old balancing, where you could crush times ez... which i doubt from what i see Oo
21:10 *nope new balancing* ... tesla coils rapid fire and then briefly load longer (meant to deal with infantry better)
Não é jogador dynamic ...não engana
That rtx on
Insert here strong doge/lame doge meme for symmetry gamers.
Why no one is building navi nor air forces? Are they so bad?
pro players find it faster to win games through inf and tank spam
Can be pretty expensive. Not many players bother cos then you'd be at a tank disadvantage. Air is expensive and can be easily dealt with n navy is only good for certain maps
brrrrrr
Essa primeira partido .não é dynamic
Are they supposed to be pro-gamers or just sort of random players? They don't seem like pro gamers. That might explain the "weird" play
DyNaMic is (was?) a top player, but these games are not a good showing of that.
In late May and early June I casted games showing DyNaMic vs BikeRush and then vs rawsteel and those series were much more fast, aggressive, and active. Those were more typical of what I was familiar with Red Alert Remastered games being like.
These are just weird games.
@@OneSybertnot convinced it's THE dynamic tbh
Not dynamic
this is not dynamic
Noobs 😆
Those guys r so bad lol
Seriously, better do OpenRA casts
I casted OpenRA a long time ago.
Haven't jumped back into it. Nothing against OpenRA and from what I hear it's a better competitive game, just haven't taken the plunge.
@@OneSybert I've seen it ;-) but good to know that you acknowledge this stuff. Ora is much more balanced and not a tank spam fest and has better options for casters. For inspiration Five Aces does great in casting Ora.