I continue to derive amusement from the Trek trope of shooting a disintegration ray *through* someone while they are being beamed out only for them to be fine.
"She's next." So much for that prediction from the Jem'Hadar who works, or should I say "worked" the prison cells with extra, unsecured weapons strapped to his body. That Breen could roll with me anytime, if he'd survived.
@@dpeasehead That Breen was played by a woman, Cathy DeBuono who played the dabo girl M'Pella and also worked as stand-in, photo double, and body double for Terry Farrell on the show..
I've always theorized that the Breen is some high-ranking official in their nation/military... Replaced with a changeling to plant the seeds of a future Dominion alliance.
Likely these were lower ranked soldier groups as the most elite would be stationed on military vessels. These guys were in charge of an old mining asteroid converted into a prison. Hardly a glorifying type of position to be had in the Dominion empire. I'd imagine they were relatively lazy and not necessarily the brightest of their kind. From that perspective, it's easy to see they did what they did.
The death of that Jem'Hadar felt really manufactured. All of sudden that Vorta wants to watch combat training? Plus those men should have similar ambitions. I am surprised that they fired so quickly and willingly. They could have eventually become their own species if they wanted.
Later in the series, Odo meets one of the hundred explorers (like himself) who was able to copy a space-borne creature. Changlings don't seem big on self sacrifice, so I lean towards it having an escape plan. Mind you, it's kind of hard out-running a supernova without a warp drive, and the shuttle exploded seconds after getting a tow-job, so this debate could be endless.
"What i did, i did to make Cardassia strong again." Good words for someone willing to sacrifice his own daughter, and to commit genocide... They also sound somewhat familiar...
I wonder how the fluits (no clue how they named in english) said, odo is more worth to twhm, than the entire alpha quadrant. But then they have no problem, when some of them die in such weird aktions... 😂
Sisko orders Kira to destroy the runabout Changeling Bashir took but there are three unconscious starfleet officers in the background :/ well thats just casualties of war.
someone tried to steal my rolex 9 months ago I punched him in the jaw, he ran off (hopefully to die) I broke my hand, it still hurts and is likley slightly disabled for life, next time its an elbow, palm strike or axe handle.
Pretty sure this is the only time you see a dominion weapon vaporise someone. Later episodes show it as a savage weapon that burns a hole in you, and has added goodness in the form of an agent that prevents the blood in the wound from clotting.
Although probably just an oversight, perhaps this explanation fits their brutal character: vaporizers are used in prisons to maintain control and put down any armed uprisings quickly, while bleeders are used during war to turn wounded soldiers into a liability for their opponents: still very likely to die but clogging triage centers, creating distractions, and drawing massive resources in the process.
No there was the time that weyoun died by his own jem'hadar on the Iconian gateway planet. It's possible to do just not standard dominion military practice.
What I don't understand is that changeling would kill himself, even to destroy a star. One individual changeling is worth more to them than the entire alpha quadrant.
i just don't believe that Worf would be so easily defeated like that, especially by an opponent who is merely throwing lame punches. Worf was defeated by plot convenience....
A shame, I can not tell if they are showing the events in real time or at the same time from different angles, but that Breen should have attacked that other Jem'Hadar.
Worf showed the Jem'Hadar what honor is. If the vorta and founders didn't have them by the balls with the white. I'm convinced the Jem'Hadar and Klingons would become allies
The usual warning in Star Wars media is that you run the risk of crashing into a planet or sun if you don't plot very carefully where you're going. Planets are in different parts of the solar system every season so it's nearly impossible to navigate around them as a snap judgment. Either that or it's very hard to warp short distances accurately so they risked overshooting and entering the sun. They were taking a blind Russian roulette.
@@Argumemnon if the supernova engulfs one end of the wormhole then I would consider it destroyed We know the nova would reach as far as DS9 so the wormhole would also probably get swallowed up.
It always irritates me whenever a stellar system is referred to as a solar system. There is only 1 solar system and we live in it, the name of our sun is Sol. The generic term is either stellar system, or star system.
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That Jem Hadar First respected Worf so much he risked his own Rank, & Life. He understood Worf and Honor, he knew he would die. He died with Honor.
Yes he did.
"All that motivates him is some barbaric sense of honor" -"And that is something you will never understand."
@@techsilver7761that damn Vorta
Romulan saying: "Never turn your back on a breen .."
I guess The Jem'Hadar never heard it ...
I continue to derive amusement from the Trek trope of shooting a disintegration ray *through* someone while they are being beamed out only for them to be fine.
That sight of The Defiant coming out of warp to catch The Ukon still gives me chills.
*Yukon
Very well done, wasn't it?
If that Breen hadn’t died, I’m betting they wouldn’t have later joined the dominion. They sent a changeling to make sure that happened.
"She's next." So much for that prediction from the Jem'Hadar who works, or should I say "worked" the prison cells with extra, unsecured weapons strapped to his body. That Breen could roll with me anytime, if he'd survived.
@@dpeasehead That Breen was played by a woman, Cathy DeBuono who played the dabo girl M'Pella and also worked as stand-in, photo double, and body double for Terry Farrell on the show..
I've always theorized that the Breen is some high-ranking official in their nation/military... Replaced with a changeling to plant the seeds of a future Dominion alliance.
How many calories would be released by 600lbs of meat? 100,000 per body? That's one hot room. Like, white hot.
@@LocksAndChainsBasically the Breen equivalent to General Martok.
Leaving an enemy vessel in orbit around their black site prison probably wasn't the best idea the Dominion ever had.
clearly Section 31 thought the same thing over a year later...
@@scottyunitedboy2925 which episode was that?
@@480JD its mentioned in season 6’s Inquisition where its suggested that it helped a brainwash Bashir escape
Likely these were lower ranked soldier groups as the most elite would be stationed on military vessels. These guys were in charge of an old mining asteroid converted into a prison. Hardly a glorifying type of position to be had in the Dominion empire. I'd imagine they were relatively lazy and not necessarily the brightest of their kind. From that perspective, it's easy to see they did what they did.
An no sensors to automatically detect weapon fire on the prison either.
"I cannot defeat this Klingon. All I can do is kill him."
Damn that was a good line.
Worf had to come to DS9 to become a badass.
@@Argumemnon It's his revenge for all of those fights he lost!
It gave me goosebumps
@@fruitofthelum5815 hahaha! Even against doors and Deanna Troi
Well written and spoken too.
That breen really should have had a quicker reaction to the 2nd guard. He was distracted lol. And that poor Jem Ha Dar.
Skyler Dean Sings The complete saying is ‘Never turn your back on a Breen, stand off to the side , their peripheral vision sucks’ not as catchy
@@lorcansavage1550 forgot about this one lol. And that's cool I didn't know that
Worf: “I WILL NOT YIELD!”
Ikat'ika: “Cool! How about a game of snakes and ladders instead?”
You hit that man, like I never seen you hit another man before, and he kept on coming. We don’t need that kind of man in our lives baby.
Appolo should have listened. Man knew what he was talking about.
I love how the Jem Hadar had their own rule of honor like the Klingons.
As much as the Founders tried to turn them into biological machinery, elements of their original culture remained.
The dude lost the war for the dominion by not killing Worf.
Bashir is pretty quick with the blade.
He is genetically enhanced
@@MrJustonemorevoice you should see his third leg
Screw that Vorta.
"Make Cardassia strong again!"
Uh oh.
Starfleet: Enterprise new orders, deliver two Runabouts to DS9. Picard: Again?
"You hoo-what?" sounded like Stewie Griffin
The death of that Jem'Hadar felt really manufactured. All of sudden that Vorta wants to watch combat training? Plus those men should have similar ambitions. I am surprised that they fired so quickly and willingly. They could have eventually become their own species if they wanted.
always wonder if that changling was going to sacrifice itself to destroy the fleet or would it have had a way out.
Later in the series, Odo meets one of the hundred explorers (like himself) who was able to copy a space-borne creature. Changlings don't seem big on self sacrifice, so I lean towards it having an escape plan.
Mind you, it's kind of hard out-running a supernova without a warp drive, and the shuttle exploded seconds after getting a tow-job, so this debate could be endless.
@@guysky3873 The Dominion had transporters that worked over lightyears. Sadly it was rarely brought up.
The Jem'Hadar are underrated.
"What i did, i did to make Cardassia strong again."
Good words for someone willing to sacrifice his own daughter, and to commit genocide... They also sound somewhat familiar...
I wonder how the fluits (no clue how they named in english) said, odo is more worth to twhm, than the entire alpha quadrant. But then they have no problem, when some of them die in such weird aktions... 😂
Sisko orders Kira to destroy the runabout Changeling Bashir took but there are three unconscious starfleet officers in the background :/ well thats just casualties of war.
Yup casualties of war. Save millions, the sun & the planet baijor by sacrificing 3
Dax: That could wipe out the fleet! DS9!
Kira: Uhhhh and Bajor?????? Helllloooo???
They weren't unconscious. They were dead.
Even if they were just unconscious they would still have died either way.
MCGA make cardassia great again do you get a hat with that?
That's good stuff!
Double handed punches all the way. Lol. I love how Lower Decks made fun of this.
someone tried to steal my rolex 9 months ago I punched him in the jaw, he ran off (hopefully to die) I broke my hand, it still hurts and is likley slightly disabled for life, next time its an elbow, palm strike or axe handle.
Pretty sure this is the only time you see a dominion weapon vaporise someone. Later episodes show it as a savage weapon that burns a hole in you, and has added goodness in the form of an agent that prevents the blood in the wound from clotting.
probably to conserve energy . also maybe they want to interrogate the enemy soldiers before they die
Although probably just an oversight, perhaps this explanation fits their brutal character: vaporizers are used in prisons to maintain control and put down any armed uprisings quickly, while bleeders are used during war to turn wounded soldiers into a liability for their opponents: still very likely to die but clogging triage centers, creating distractions, and drawing massive resources in the process.
No there was the time that weyoun died by his own jem'hadar on the Iconian gateway planet. It's possible to do just not standard dominion military practice.
What I don't understand is that changeling would kill himself, even to destroy a star. One individual changeling is worth more to them than the entire alpha quadrant.
poor jem hadar :( he seemed like an honorable man
Was that the same vorta at the table at the peace treaty where admiral Ross made the speech in what you leave behind?
i just don't believe that Worf would be so easily defeated like that, especially by an opponent who is merely throwing lame punches. Worf was defeated by plot convenience....
Wasn't this like fight number 30 in a span of a few days?
Yeah Worf was totally like dying by the end of it
When you think you're comment is edgy, but didn't pay close attention to the episode.
@@Psiros LOOOL yeah worf was in fight after fight after fight and if I am not mistaken that Jem'hadar was the first. So he's likely the most skilled.
A shame, I can not tell if they are showing the events in real time or at the same time from different angles, but that Breen should have attacked that other Jem'Hadar.
Sucks to be Worf in this.
What episode is this
Make cardassia Great Again!
Worf showed the Jem'Hadar what honor is. If the vorta and founders didn't have them by the balls with the white. I'm convinced the Jem'Hadar and Klingons would become allies
Make Cardasia strong again= Make American Great Again 😅
Why did the jem hadar shuttle just hanging in space. Why didn't they destroy it?
Federation shuttle. Sorry.
What's the problem with going to warp inside a solar system??
The usual warning in Star Wars media is that you run the risk of crashing into a planet or sun if you don't plot very carefully where you're going. Planets are in different parts of the solar system every season so it's nearly impossible to navigate around them as a snap judgment. Either that or it's very hard to warp short distances accurately so they risked overshooting and entering the sun. They were taking a blind Russian roulette.
@@orelas167 Blind Russian roulette is as dangerous as regular Russian roulette. 🤔
And destroy the wormhole... does this really make sense in the story?
The Bashir changeling ensured that the wormhole couldn't be destroyed by the protomatter device.
Why would it destroy the wormhole?
@@Argumemnon if the supernova engulfs one end of the wormhole then I would consider it destroyed
We know the nova would reach as far as DS9 so the wormhole would also probably get swallowed up.
Way too much exposition. They are entirely inconsistent about going into warp in a solar system.
It supposedly effect subspace and that's why it was against Starfleet regulations.
Hahaha the green menace will forever be with us. Dax still was reluctant to go to warp even to stop a supernova.
I think it's because if you ram a planet at any warp speed will tear the planet appart
crime cat yeah but they weren’t going towards a planet.
@@gluttony3044
Ok
Worf always was a terrible fighter haha.
is it me or tht alien with visor in starwars ?
That costume has been used and re-used in all kinds of sci-fi for decades.
@@hammond1994 It's not the Ubese Bounty Hunter suit or mask, though the helmets and mask look similar.
Very poorly edited.
It always irritates me whenever a stellar system is referred to as a solar system. There is only 1 solar system and we live in it, the name of our sun is Sol. The generic term is either stellar system, or star system.
Carl Sagan is laughing at you.
What are you on about? That's like saying "there is only 1 sun, and it's our sun. All the rest are stars."
@@supremeownage8995 no our dun was named Sol by the greeks. Granted they didn't know that the stars were other sun's. But there you go.
Why does Gul Dukat remind me of Trump so much
They are allot alike
Because you don't understand one of them.
@@DaveMiller2 - that may be true; trump is far more inept than gul dukat, but the evil in their characters are comparable at least.
@@analtubegut66 I knew someone would make that reply.
Dukat is actually sinister. Trump is just a buffoon.
I hate this Vorta. Such a pathetic genetic copy. They should have saved that Dominion soldier. He was at least honorable to some degree.