Hi friends! At the end I didn’t mention the headlamp, but I thought it was good! No better or worse than the Energizer headlamp from my video on Amazon gear, and about the same price. A solid headlamp that worked well and is a great value! You may have noticed I ended up bringing on the trip the Covacure blanket I got from Amazon as well. It continues to be amazing, and I love it! You can find that here: amzn.to/3XS8k99 While I am still not sold on the Klymit pad, it looks like Walmart is selling an updated version on their website (link in the description) of the one I used, with a possibly improved valve. There is also an insulated version that is $60 that has a far better r-value of 4.4. I went with the cheapest option to be as budget as possible, but if the Klymit pad’s design appeals to you the insulated version is the one to get for superior warmth and just $20 more! Love y’all! 💚
I have used for many years the Klymit static v insulated version and it does work very well as with most pads filling it an hour before you need to go to bed and then fill it again right before bed helps with deflation overnight as you mentioned the heat of your breath has a lot to do with the deflation of the pad. Also Klymit has a very good warranty on their products.
I’m also a fan of the insulated static v! I took it to Bishop, CA with 26° overnight temps. While I had an amazing, borrowed down bag for that trip, the pad kept me elevated even when side-sleeping and I never really felt the ground-cold.
Can confirm the new Klymit valve is MUCH better. It is probably why you got that one so cheap on Amazon. I have the light version of insulated Static V, and it is great!
i know filming has probably wrapped already for this series, but i’d love to see a “best of the best” vid with all the best items from the categories you tested across retailers (best budget backpack, best budget tent etc)
We’re still filming it actually and this is precisely our plan! We will assemble the “ultimate” budget kit featuring the best of the best from the series!
@@RainerGoldenthank you. Thank you. Thank you. I hike with a full family of five. My hiking equipment is very expensive. I'm always looking for ideas that are lightweight, durable. and affordable. I know it's the three that you never get three of. However I'm looking for the best I can do for my family. Thank you
This is one of the few channels where i actually feel very accepted and where being a human is normalized. This channel is my comfort channel and i watch whenever i feel like i need a boost or some semblance of friendship. You and Rainer are so cool. Thanks for another great video!
I have a series idea: Backpacking gear from yesteryear! Testing the best gear from each decade going from 1980s all the way back to frontier times. (maybe even throw in an episode on fantasy backpacking gear? Would be great to see y'all dressed as Hobbits)
Ooh…I went backpacking a couple years ago with a group that included an older gentleman who was still using his metal-frame pack from the 70s. He had all kinds of McGyver gear/hacks!
I have watched you guys for a long time, and until recently it was just for how fun you are because I never thought I’d try backpacking. Now I have. And first, I only felt enough confidence to do it because of all the information you’ve shared over the years so thanks! But also I don’t know if I’m just now starting to watch your videos differently or if your production choices are different, but I really enjoy the little moments of joy like watching sunrise, telling us more about where you are and the features of the area you’re in, etc. Reason being it wasn’t always obvious to me (as a new/inexperienced outdoors person) what the point of it all was. So tl;dr, thanks for everything you all do!
I backpack with a $10 poncho. The trick is to put your pack on first and then the poncho over top. This allows for more airflow, and you don't need a pack cover. Just make sure it's long enough in the back to cover everything.
I love using a poncho when backpacking. I have an oversized one that is awesome: I can put it over myself and my pack, change under it or use it for privacy, and it can be turned into a tarp. That plus extra warm clothes, several trash bags, and some games/books makes backpacking in the rain a lot better.
Definitely poncho over self and pack. You don't need a pack cover or liner that way, and rain never gets between you and the pack. The oversized ones that are extra long in the back just for that are best. If you're feeling fancy, pair it with gaiters. Knees can still get wet, but that's it.
I don't do any heavy duty backpacking or winter camping in very cold temps, but my mother got me a CuddleDuds just plain (not fleecey) base layer top some years ago, and I love it for vanlife when I find myself in a place with colder weather overnight than my clothing merits (I've had days where it was in the 80s out home and I ended up in the mountains in the 30s during the day, also nice for "HOLY BUCKETS IT IS COLD!!! BACKINTHECAR!!! BACKINTHECAR!!!" moments). I find it is a nice layer under a t-shirt and some kind of outer layer and have been well pleased with the result. I think I would save up for good base layers because it is NOT antimicrobial, but in a pinch it works very well in what is basically my permanent "car emergency kit" that is vanlife.
The cook pot that *some* Walmart stores still sell that will give your Toaks a run for its money on everything but weight is the Stanley Two-Cup Cookset. It's everything you need, nothing you really don't, you can leave one or both of the double walled pots at home. and it retails for $15-$18, which comes in under the Toaks. The catch is, not all Walmart stores carry that one in store. There are also a ton of hacks for this cookset. It's my favorite, and it's bombproof.
I have the Stanley Cook set. The plastic cups are the heaviest part. The pot itself isn't super heavy. I also have a Toaks pot, can't remember the gram weight, but to just compare in your hands, they're pretty similar in weight. But the Stanley pot has a lid latch for packing it up.
@davidburdecki6478 yup, same. I've also learned that cup with a tiny whisk ks *THE* best way to make from-scratch hot chocolate over the simmer burner on the regular kitchen stove, as well as cheese-sauce-from-powder for mac & cheese.
@Mimilikesstuff those cups live in my cook kit for car camping, but I'd be more likely to store my dishwashing supplies in the cookpot (I have a Firebox Nano stainless with the Trangia adapter sticks).
in another thread, Rainer said they will, as a conclusion to this series: "We’re still filming it actually and this is precisely our plan! We will assemble the “ultimate” budget kit featuring the best of the best from the series!"
33:23 Eric Hanson David Attenborough narration voice: As the Greater Eructating Miranda Butterfly emerges from their chrysalis, they let out a loud burp to announce their arrival into this seemingly new world post metamorphosis.
Miranda is the reason I took the leap and went out on the trails! Maroon Bells was my first trip ever and man I thought I was prepared BUT while it was the most amazing experience I learned a ton! And thanks to Miranda I’ve gotten a lot better at packing and enjoying what nature has to offer! ❤ keep up the great work Miranda and team!
Sleeping pad: I own and use the kelty mistral and an old thermarest that work the same way. Breathing through the nose is totally the way to go, you also need to hold pressure through your mouth, keep your lips on the nozzle and close it while your lips are on to keep the seal so you don't lose pressure. Let's be honest, it's a pain, but it's possible
You can get frog togs at Walmart. Also, my first stove was from Walmart and the igniter on it stopped working after I think the first day. So I would highly suggest bringing a lighter regardless because believe it or not I still have that cheap stove and it still works with a lighter.
I always carry a steel sparker for that reason, I've had several piezo igniters either fail or just not create a big enough spark in windy conditions. My steel striker never lets me down.
Ive been waiting for this one since you announced this budget series. My walmart also has frog togs rain jackets which might have been a nice addition rather than that poncho
I picked up a Frog Toggs rainsuit at Walmart for my last trip. The jacket worked well, but the pants kept sliding down and had me walking in the rain on the legs. It was a real fall hazard.
Miranda: "I'm soaked" (talking about tent potential) Narrator: ... little did Miranda know what laid ahead 🌧 I'm pretty psyched and stoked about that tent. For a budget and entry level tent, I think it could be a great starter option. Thanks again for making this budget gear series, Miranda, Rainer and the rest of the MGO team 💚
I love the Ozark trail stove. We bought it on an uh oh day off purchase. I have been backpacking for 37 years, have the pocket rocket, BRS, alcohol stoves, etc but honestly pack this one most often. The piaso doesn't last but that's no big deal. We also rock the $5 cook pot and $3 collapsible silicone dog bowls. How about Aldi's Adventure Ridge products? They are pretty legit. A view challenge would be fun. Put together the ultimate budget great list under 20lbs
FYI: Cuddlduds has a lighter to pack version that is also VERY warm and soft. The thinner material is not fleece, so they aren't as warm standalone. But as an under layer, they're still amazing. I've been wearing Cuddlduds for years. I ADORE them.
it probably wouldn't classify as budget, but I would love to see you try and tackle a army-navy/military surplus backpacking trip. no need to go hiking in fatigues and combat boots, but a pack that's all milsurp might be an interesting topic.
Ponchos don't keep your legs dry. That means you really need rain pants. With cost involved, maybe a rain jacket is better, but ponchos have more air flow for me. Some people put it over the pack. but you kind of need the oversized ones. Mostly when you are backpacking you hope it doesn't rain no matter what you have. A baseball cap helps with those hoods. I'm a big fan of Ozark Trail. I have a screen tent from them which is holding up well. If 3 minutes is too long to boil water, don't try alcohol, which I really like. I wouldn't trade it for all the canisters in China. My air mattress is one of those kind of thin ones and it's an r2. Easy to inflate. Cost 30 dollars. I use it with a foam like you did, from Amazon. Yay for budget gear. Those stuffy rich people can camp somewhere else.
I love the budget gear videos! The cheaper the better to me, especially in this economy since our grocery bill has tripled since 2020 and I've camped but yet to launch on backpack/hiking camping. It's on the list of to do's but so excited for this video!!
I use those Walmart base layers, and love them. I am allergic to wool.i travel for work, and wear them under my pants and shirts. I also use them for backpacking, in winter.
Ozark trail tents punch way above their weight. I bring them as back up and when the shtf rain wise, we break them out and stay dry. My oldest ozark trail is 12 years old and still hangin in there.
Miranda! I routinely use a Wal Mart Frog Toggs poncho but throw the whole thing on over my pack. Then it doubles as a pack cover, too, and has nice snaps under the sleeves for ventilation. I am, however only 5’3” so it may not work for others ;)
The sleeping bag and base layers is what I started out when first backpacking and the base layers didn’t work very well but I still have the bag and am now upgrading because of weight.
Because of Miranda I’m now trying to find gear I can carry in a bigger lumbar bag (can’t carry backpacks) and I’m so excited to actually get out even if it’s just day hikes
Wally world sells Frogg Toggs in "most" stores. Next aisle over with the hunting stuff. Probably better than a poncho if you are carrying a pack. Also, some stores, some times, have the "insulated" Klymit Static V. A lot of the stuff has taken a big step up from where it was 5 or 10 years ago.
A few years back I was looking for a budget backpacking tent and there were tons of recommendations for a certain 1person Ozark Trails tent $45. Unfortunately it was out of stock at every store and online. I happened to be working in a walmart deli and walked back to the camping supplies and to my surprise we had 3 of them sitting on a shelf with no price tag. I scanned the UPC with my Walmart App on my phone and they were on clearance for $10!!! I bought 2. Ive used one of them for 3 years now and have never opened the 2nd one. It has held up to all kinds of bad weather and i love the huge vestibule.
Hey Miranda. I've used the Klymit sleeping pad and found that by putting the foam pad on top of the inflatable instead of underneath, my weight is spread out more so I don't deal with hips and shoulders digging into the hard surface underneath. It also makes the level of inflation a little less important.
I love this kind of video! My daughter loves Cuddle Duds for under her snow gear and sometimes to sleep in. We’re also big fans of 32 DEGREES base layers. They often have really great sales.
loving this series, its super helpful to send to my friend ive been trying to get into backpacking forever, to show him you dont need to spend big. one thing ill push back on, is its sort of ok to spend more on something if it has real world or multi hobby use as well as backpacing use. for example, my $120 north face rain shell jacket might be a hard justification, but because its my go to for hiking/ backpacking, and also just goin about daily life in the rain, its an easier justification. same thing w base layers or wool/ fleece stuff i can also use for snowboarding.
I've seen a few of your vids, and you always make sure to enjoy your camping by taking moments to yourself while then being informative after your alone time. thank you for being relatable and knowledgeable.
When I started camping again with my kids in scouts I first got the Ozark Trail gear as I needed some camping gear quickly and cheap. Got the set with a tent, sleeping bags, bed rolls,chairs, and pillows. Still have the tent and chairs as we learned the upgrades need to be quickly. My boys also started their troop life with those type of backpacks which are actually pretty good but just a little heavy. Theirs has the mesh pocket on the back which makes a huge difference for jamming things in.
I had the insulated Static V for a bit when I got back into camping and it had a proper one way valve. I used it on it's own down to 40s(? it has been a few years) and it was ok. Not super warm or comfortable, but i think it is a decent, affordable pad if you are just testing out the waters.
Interesting and entertaining video. This had some really good information for new backpackers who don't want to spend a lot of money. I got the same stove a while back and love it. It works so well for being so inexpensive and so far has been very reliable. I got it to shave even more grams from my packs load. I'm an old guy and have been backpacking for 56 years. I've found that investing in quality gear is worth it in the long run. This is especially critical if you are in wet and cold conditions. The biggest change in for me over the years has been the reduction in base weight. When I was younger it was normal to have a pack that was 30 to 40 lbs base weight depending on the season. These days I'm at 10 to 13 lbs depending on the season.
I bought the Klymit sleeping pad about 5 years ago when on the first night of a 9-day camping trip I came to the shock realization my 50-year-old body now needed more underneath it than it used to. That pad is what was available on no notice (short of a giant air mattress) as the nearest town had a Wal-Mart. I don't find it difficult to inflate, it has never deflated on me and so far as comfort goes it is far better than nothing, but I am under no illusions about better options being out there. I found it adequate and reliable and like its compact size when stowed. That said, I am shopping for something better.
The REI Trailmade pad is seriously the best. It's got an r value of 5.5 and is under $90. I strap it onto the outside of my bag because it's a little bulky. I also love the kelty tents, sleeping bags, and packs, all super budget friendly and great quality.
Yeah, those self-inflating pads that started with Thermarest have solid R-ratings and decently comfortable cushion depending on the thickness, but they are heavier than today's blow-up pads. I've still got my original from the late 1970s and it works well other than weighing over two pounds.
@@memathews it's honestly so worth the weight though because you don't need a second pad or any other insulating gear for it to work in every season. The worst is sweating in a bag and freezing from the bottom because the ground is cold. I've been able to just unzip my bag and use it as a quilt in near freezing conditions on those.
I find for ponchos, it's much more effective to put on your pack/gear then throw poncho over everything. It allows much more airflow and allows easier access to things by just reaching under the poncho
There is definitely merit in starting with some walmart gear. I bought my first backpacking sleeping bag and pad from Walmart about 10 years ago. I still use the bag to this day for summer camping. The bag is a 40deg (more like 50 comfort), and packs down super small. I think I paid $20. It's rectangular and zips open all the way. Besides sleeping in it, I can zip it open and use it like a big blanket/quilt, or fold it once and sleep under it for a little extra warmth. I really like it for bikepacking since it's so small. The pad was a 1" self inflating one that packed down pretty small iirc. It popped eventually but was definitely worth the price.
Can you consider doing a video on backpacking pillows? I’ve tried at least a dozen and have yet to find one that I think is the winner winner chicken dinner of pillows. Love your videos!
My friend has an Ozark Trail tent that has survived several truly disastrous camping trips, two of which ended early after our campsite flooded. I'm not Walmart's biggest fan but I've got to admit their tents are pretty sturdy
Loving this series so far, but got so excited when I saw you flash the Paria Outdoors logo at the end. Been considering their tent and pad for some time now but never pulled the trigger
@@lskazalski I have there Bryce 1p tent and Thermodown 15°quilt and I love them. Best money ever spent. Seen them on a Dan Becker video. Hopefully Miranda reviews there products. Also seen they have quite a bit of budget gear.
@@MirandaGoesOutside Here on the East Coast, at least in Atlantic Canada, our larch species are called tamarack, or even hackmatack! So fun :D Tamaracks are tied for my favourite conifers, as I love their name, their colour changing, the tufty way their needles are arranged, and they have the cutest cones ever! like tiny rosebuds. Only rival is the balsam fir, which makes for the best, most bushy, most fragrant Christmas trees!
As a relative newcomer to backpacking, I’ve started with a lot of Walmart or garage sale gear. My opinion of this stove is very different: The lighter didn’t work for me at altitude (thankfully, I had a backup Bic), and the pot stands seem awkward. (I also have the Coleman you mentioned. It’s a great stove, but heavy at 6.2 oz.) I’m currently deciding on the best stove for me. Was going to go BRS, but want better wind performance and a larger-diameter head for use with my Toaks 900. When the forecast for my summer trip to New Mexico changed at the last minute, I picked up this very bag to replace my 50-degree Decathlon bag the night before my trip. I was very impressed with its performance in the low 40s, but like you, I found it very heavy at 3.7 lbs.
I am still not sure if labeling it "Bear Bag" doesn't actually mean you either have to put the bear in the bag or that it's a bag for the bear... but I do love the look of it. Sadly we live in Polar Bear Country with no trees, so a bear bag wouldn't do anything to help us keep the big floofs out of our food...
The irony, I guess, about Walmart is that they used to have this "American" image, but mainly they just import Chinese products to rural America. This may sound political, but it's more economic - the only way all this stuff is so impossibly cheap (The backpack - how is it even possible to ship, much less manufacture that, for that price!) is low-cost, often brutal labor.
Volume is the bigger reason for low costs... Lots of premium brands make their products in the Far East. The difference is Walmart has all their own distribution in much larger numbers. They are almost totally vertically integrated.
a good poncho hack is to find the largest one you can and drape it over yourself + your bag! (or get a poncho specially designed for that purpose, but ive heard those can be pricy)
I’ve been using Klymit Static V insulated pads and it’s not hard to blow up w the regular flush valve. They are pretty good w an extra foam layer below. Plus good for tall and 30” width! I bought three Ozark Trail headlamps in 2021 for family camping and we still use them. I actually like it better than my Black Diamond headlamp bc the buttons and illumination choices are easier to get through. Of course the best is the classic SS OT bottle cup!
I bought the Ozark Trail 4 person tent as a car camping tent to use in case our dog came with us, not bad! Fit 2 people and medium size dog comfortably! Ever consider a tarp for shelter? Works nicely!
thank you for these budget gear ⚙️ videos. i’m gathering a kit for my foster son to use on his first trip, and your reviews have been so helpful! he’s never camped at all, so we are diving in with a (short and easy) backpacking trip!
For the pad, either breathing through your nose, or having the cap twisted just barely open so a slight twist will close it, small twist and breathe then small twist to take a breath, not ideal but it works when we were using the budget stuff!
Started hiking by buying Walmart and Amazon gear. Still use it. Gotta dig deep for the lighter stuff but I haven’t bought expensive gear yet minus an Osprey 65L backpack which was still cheap compared to others at only $160. It actually isn’t as comfortable as my ozark trails 65L but it has venting on it so I use it during summer and the Ozark Trail one in winter. I’ve also used a 0° Ozark Trail mummy bag for 4 years now and it was only like $60? It’s quite amazing but it does take up a ton of room. I’ve recently got a down/synthetic mix one from Amazon and it was only $80 and it’s amazing also and packs a little smaller. I’ve also found Ozark Trail gear to be way more durable than anything I’ve used and it seems more durable than other expensive brands from what I’ve seen on videos.
@@annethornton9938 some of it is actually made with pretty durable materials like the dyneema but for the price I’ll buy the ozark trails gear and not go broke buying it and deal with the little bit of extra weight. I just learned to take more breaks if needed.
The klymit static V is only slightly better than sleeping on a rock. Spend some more money and get something a few steps up. Don't cheap out on the sleep setup. :)
Please try the hikenture R 6.2 ultrathick pad!! I think it is great, light, compact, but very high and comfy and overall great for the value (I believe I got it for around 60bucks) but I can't find any reviews about it, I can't understand why no one speaks about it :D maybe is it not available in the us?
I absolutely love this video! CuddlDuds have been my baselayers for years and are so awesome. Walmart and Ozark Trail have really stepped up their game with their outdoors products. One of the sons of Sam Walton is huge into backpacking and mountain biking, so he has really pushed for Ozark Trail to make the outdoors accessible to everyone. Their bikes used to be laughable pieces of junk, but now they're actually good, and even better with some affordable upgrades.
I mentioned this on an Eric Hansen video: Klymit makes an insulated version of this sleeping pad that's like $20 more. There are questions about the actual R value of their insulated pad, but Eric did try that one and liked it better.
Our family has had an incredibly difficult year, and I started hiking and camping as a way to withdraw and heal. I didn't have much money and bought my supplies from Walmart. I have taken them out nearly a dozen times in the last couple of months and I am honestly impressed with their performance and grateful that I was able to afford what I needed in the midst of a tough time.
Miranda, uou have helped me decide on alot of my gear, while not finished yet Im getting close to being set gear wise , many thanks! You are so much fun, love ya! Happy trails! 🍁🍄🙏
Thank you for doing this series, Miranda. I am building my backpacking gear (w/ my 2 dogs) trip by trip and some of the Ozark gear you tested I was deliberating on but am now SOLD! Majority of my gear is from your videos. THANK YOU!!! Safe travels
Hi friends! At the end I didn’t mention the headlamp, but I thought it was good! No better or worse than the Energizer headlamp from my video on Amazon gear, and about the same price. A solid headlamp that worked well and is a great value! You may have noticed I ended up bringing on the trip the Covacure blanket I got from Amazon as well. It continues to be amazing, and I love it! You can find that here: amzn.to/3XS8k99
While I am still not sold on the Klymit pad, it looks like Walmart is selling an updated version on their website (link in the description) of the one I used, with a possibly improved valve. There is also an insulated version that is $60 that has a far better r-value of 4.4. I went with the cheapest option to be as budget as possible, but if the Klymit pad’s design appeals to you the insulated version is the one to get for superior warmth and just $20 more! Love y’all! 💚
I have used for many years the Klymit static v insulated version and it does work very well as with most pads filling it an hour before you need to go to bed and then fill it again right before bed helps with deflation overnight as you mentioned the heat of your breath has a lot to do with the deflation of the pad. Also Klymit has a very good warranty on their products.
That Covacure blanket seems a bit small at 51inches. Not sure how tall you are but at 5'9" I think it would be too small.
No shot my car made it to the video yay !!!!!!, ( the brown Volvo 10:18)
I’m also a fan of the insulated static v! I took it to Bishop, CA with 26° overnight temps. While I had an amazing, borrowed down bag for that trip, the pad kept me elevated even when side-sleeping and I never really felt the ground-cold.
Can confirm the new Klymit valve is MUCH better. It is probably why you got that one so cheap on Amazon. I have the light version of insulated Static V, and it is great!
i know filming has probably wrapped already for this series, but i’d love to see a “best of the best” vid with all the best items from the categories you tested across retailers (best budget backpack, best budget tent etc)
We’re still filming it actually and this is precisely our plan! We will assemble the “ultimate” budget kit featuring the best of the best from the series!
@@RainerGolden y’all are the best!
Yes please!!!!!!
@@RainerGoldenthank you. Thank you. Thank you. I hike with a full family of five. My hiking equipment is very expensive. I'm always looking for ideas that are lightweight, durable. and affordable.
I know it's the three that you never get three of. However I'm looking for the best I can do for my family. Thank you
That would be so good xxx.
This is one of the few channels where i actually feel very accepted and where being a human is normalized. This channel is my comfort channel and i watch whenever i feel like i need a boost or some semblance of friendship. You and Rainer are so cool.
Thanks for another great video!
I started an outdoor club for girls at the school where I teach, and I’m currently putting together a gear library. This series has been a lifesaver!
I have a series idea: Backpacking gear from yesteryear! Testing the best gear from each decade going from 1980s all the way back to frontier times. (maybe even throw in an episode on fantasy backpacking gear? Would be great to see y'all dressed as Hobbits)
Ooh…I went backpacking a couple years ago with a group that included an older gentleman who was still using his metal-frame pack from the 70s. He had all kinds of McGyver gear/hacks!
Brother that’s a sick idea. If you make it I will watch lol
I love that you utilized old ones rather than buying extra unnecessary stuff.
I have watched you guys for a long time, and until recently it was just for how fun you are because I never thought I’d try backpacking. Now I have. And first, I only felt enough confidence to do it because of all the information you’ve shared over the years so thanks!
But also I don’t know if I’m just now starting to watch your videos differently or if your production choices are different, but I really enjoy the little moments of joy like watching sunrise, telling us more about where you are and the features of the area you’re in, etc. Reason being it wasn’t always obvious to me (as a new/inexperienced outdoors person) what the point of it all was. So tl;dr, thanks for everything you all do!
I backpack with a $10 poncho. The trick is to put your pack on first and then the poncho over top. This allows for more airflow, and you don't need a pack cover. Just make sure it's long enough in the back to cover everything.
I love using a poncho when backpacking. I have an oversized one that is awesome: I can put it over myself and my pack, change under it or use it for privacy, and it can be turned into a tarp. That plus extra warm clothes, several trash bags, and some games/books makes backpacking in the rain a lot better.
Definitely poncho over self and pack. You don't need a pack cover or liner that way, and rain never gets between you and the pack. The oversized ones that are extra long in the back just for that are best.
If you're feeling fancy, pair it with gaiters. Knees can still get wet, but that's it.
I don't do any heavy duty backpacking or winter camping in very cold temps, but my mother got me a CuddleDuds just plain (not fleecey) base layer top some years ago, and I love it for vanlife when I find myself in a place with colder weather overnight than my clothing merits (I've had days where it was in the 80s out home and I ended up in the mountains in the 30s during the day, also nice for "HOLY BUCKETS IT IS COLD!!! BACKINTHECAR!!! BACKINTHECAR!!!" moments). I find it is a nice layer under a t-shirt and some kind of outer layer and have been well pleased with the result. I think I would save up for good base layers because it is NOT antimicrobial, but in a pinch it works very well in what is basically my permanent "car emergency kit" that is vanlife.
Miranda, your overalls at the end of the video are giving me LIFE
I think they’re from Kavu.
The cook pot that *some* Walmart stores still sell that will give your Toaks a run for its money on everything but weight is the Stanley Two-Cup Cookset. It's everything you need, nothing you really don't, you can leave one or both of the double walled pots at home. and it retails for $15-$18, which comes in under the Toaks. The catch is, not all Walmart stores carry that one in store. There are also a ton of hacks for this cookset. It's my favorite, and it's bombproof.
I have the Stanley Cook set. The plastic cups are the heaviest part. The pot itself isn't super heavy. I also have a Toaks pot, can't remember the gram weight, but to just compare in your hands, they're pretty similar in weight. But the Stanley pot has a lid latch for packing it up.
I use the Ozark Trail stainless steel cup with the Stanley pot. The pot fits in the cup and my stove and 100g fuel can fit inside.
@davidburdecki6478 yup, same. I've also learned that cup with a tiny whisk ks *THE* best way to make from-scratch hot chocolate over the simmer burner on the regular kitchen stove, as well as cheese-sauce-from-powder for mac & cheese.
@Mimilikesstuff those cups live in my cook kit for car camping, but I'd be more likely to store my dishwashing supplies in the cookpot (I have a Firebox Nano stainless with the Trangia adapter sticks).
Love Cuddlduds. They've kept me warm on -25°F days working in the barn.
Please make a video assembling a kit of only secondhand/ used gear!
She already (mostly) did: th-cam.com/video/YhqzAITBI3A/w-d-xo.htmlsi=fmGurQYBwtGFaqel
I think she did in past but maybe when on rei. We have a hiking traders store here I need to check out sometime!
Yes like from thrift shops would be fun and really hard. But it would make such a fun video!
in another thread, Rainer said they will, as a conclusion to this series: "We’re still filming it actually and this is precisely our plan! We will assemble the “ultimate” budget kit featuring the best of the best from the series!"
You're a lifesaver for making this budget gear series. I'm looking into affordable gear now and the Walmart series came at the perfect time
33:23
Eric Hanson David Attenborough narration voice:
As the Greater Eructating Miranda Butterfly emerges from their chrysalis, they let out a loud burp to announce their arrival into this seemingly new world post metamorphosis.
Miranda is the reason I took the leap and went out on the trails! Maroon Bells was my first trip ever and man I thought I was prepared BUT while it was the most amazing experience I learned a ton! And thanks to Miranda I’ve gotten a lot better at packing and enjoying what nature has to offer! ❤ keep up the great work Miranda and team!
You guys need to do a Battle of the Budget Backpackers video with Eric Hanson where you compare the best loadouts at the lowest prices.
Woooo! This trip was a microcosm of everything fall offers. 24 hours of every kind of weather that exists 😂.
Can't spell "fall" without "all" 😎
Canadian Here! You should do MEC next! Would love to see how it compares to REI and Decatlon
Or Canadian Tire! I just bought hiking boots from there before a trip.
Most of the MEC stuff is made in the same factories as REI. REI helped to get MEC going "back in the day"
Sleeping pad: I own and use the kelty mistral and an old thermarest that work the same way. Breathing through the nose is totally the way to go, you also need to hold pressure through your mouth, keep your lips on the nozzle and close it while your lips are on to keep the seal so you don't lose pressure. Let's be honest, it's a pain, but it's possible
This cheap and simple DIY project may make inflating your pad a lot easier th-cam.com/video/Psf6NCT5Fyk/w-d-xo.html
You can get frog togs at Walmart. Also, my first stove was from Walmart and the igniter on it stopped working after I think the first day. So I would highly suggest bringing a lighter regardless because believe it or not I still have that cheap stove and it still works with a lighter.
I always carry a steel sparker for that reason, I've had several piezo igniters either fail or just not create a big enough spark in windy conditions. My steel striker never lets me down.
Ive been waiting for this one since you announced this budget series.
My walmart also has frog togs rain jackets which might have been a nice addition rather than that poncho
I picked up a Frog Toggs rainsuit at Walmart for my last trip. The jacket worked well, but the pants kept sliding down and had me walking in the rain on the legs. It was a real fall hazard.
Miranda: "I'm soaked" (talking about tent potential)
Narrator: ... little did Miranda know what laid ahead 🌧
I'm pretty psyched and stoked about that tent. For a budget and entry level tent, I think it could be a great starter option.
Thanks again for making this budget gear series, Miranda, Rainer and the rest of the MGO team 💚
I love the Ozark trail stove. We bought it on an uh oh day off purchase. I have been backpacking for 37 years, have the pocket rocket, BRS, alcohol stoves, etc but honestly pack this one most often. The piaso doesn't last but that's no big deal. We also rock the $5 cook pot and $3 collapsible silicone dog bowls.
How about Aldi's Adventure Ridge products? They are pretty legit.
A view challenge would be fun. Put together the ultimate budget great list under 20lbs
FYI: Cuddlduds has a lighter to pack version that is also VERY warm and soft. The thinner material is not fleece, so they aren't as warm standalone. But as an under layer, they're still amazing. I've been wearing Cuddlduds for years. I ADORE them.
it probably wouldn't classify as budget, but I would love to see you try and tackle a army-navy/military surplus backpacking trip. no need to go hiking in fatigues and combat boots, but a pack that's all milsurp might be an interesting topic.
Ponchos don't keep your legs dry. That means you really need rain pants. With cost involved, maybe a rain jacket is better, but ponchos have more air flow for me. Some people put it over the pack. but you kind of need the oversized ones. Mostly when you are backpacking you hope it doesn't rain no matter what you have. A baseball cap helps with those hoods. I'm a big fan of Ozark Trail. I have a screen tent from them which is holding up well. If 3 minutes is too long to boil water, don't try alcohol, which I really like. I wouldn't trade it for all the canisters in China. My air mattress is one of those kind of thin ones and it's an r2. Easy to inflate. Cost 30 dollars. I use it with a foam like you did, from Amazon. Yay for budget gear. Those stuffy rich people can camp somewhere else.
I love the budget gear videos! The cheaper the better to me, especially in this economy since our grocery bill has tripled since 2020 and I've camped but yet to launch on backpack/hiking camping. It's on the list of to do's but so excited for this video!!
12:13 blue plastic space nun. When Rainer asked the question…. I lost it 😂😂😂😂 and Miranda’s laugh! That was great
I love these Budget Backpack videos, Miranda; I'm looking forward to the rest of your journey in search of the perfect budget backpack gear combo!!!
I use those Walmart base layers, and love them. I am allergic to wool.i travel for work, and wear them under my pants and shirts. I also use them for backpacking, in winter.
watching from Dundee I'll confirm Rainier's claim at 11:46 - that's what Scottish weather is like, except for the times when it isn't.
I would love to see a nature hike brand collection. Some TH-camrs rave about their tents but not much about the other gear
Yes!!!!!!
Ozark trail tents punch way above their weight. I bring them as back up and when the shtf rain wise, we break them out and stay dry. My oldest ozark trail is 12 years old and still hangin in there.
Miranda! I routinely use a Wal Mart Frog Toggs poncho but throw the whole thing on over my pack. Then it doubles as a pack cover, too, and has nice snaps under the sleeves for ventilation. I am, however only 5’3” so it may not work for others ;)
That's what I was going to say
The sleeping bag and base layers is what I started out when first backpacking and the base layers didn’t work very well but I still have the bag and am now upgrading because of weight.
Because of Miranda I’m now trying to find gear I can carry in a bigger lumbar bag (can’t carry backpacks) and I’m so excited to actually get out even if it’s just day hikes
Wally world sells Frogg Toggs in "most" stores. Next aisle over with the hunting stuff. Probably better than a poncho if you are carrying a pack. Also, some stores, some times, have the "insulated" Klymit Static V. A lot of the stuff has taken a big step up from where it was 5 or 10 years ago.
I even got the ultralight sets at my Walmart and they are awesome
A few years back I was looking for a budget backpacking tent and there were tons of recommendations for a certain 1person Ozark Trails tent $45. Unfortunately it was out of stock at every store and online. I happened to be working in a walmart deli and walked back to the camping supplies and to my surprise we had 3 of them sitting on a shelf with no price tag. I scanned the UPC with my Walmart App on my phone and they were on clearance for $10!!! I bought 2. Ive used one of them for 3 years now and have never opened the 2nd one. It has held up to all kinds of bad weather and i love the huge vestibule.
Hey Miranda.
I've used the Klymit sleeping pad and found that by putting the foam pad on top of the inflatable instead of underneath, my weight is spread out more so I don't deal with hips and shoulders digging into the hard surface underneath. It also makes the level of inflation a little less important.
That ozark trail stove worked great for a last minute backpacking trip. I was impressed.
Yessss Ozark trail has some real legit stuff ESPECIALLY for those looking to try it or for Boy Scouts
Recently found your channel after starting my own hiking journey in New Zealand. Just wanted to say that I love your videos you are amazing ❤
I love this kind of video! My daughter loves Cuddle Duds for under her snow gear and sometimes to sleep in. We’re also big fans of 32 DEGREES base layers. They often have really great sales.
loving this series, its super helpful to send to my friend ive been trying to get into backpacking forever, to show him you dont need to spend big. one thing ill push back on, is its sort of ok to spend more on something if it has real world or multi hobby use as well as backpacing use. for example, my $120 north face rain shell jacket might be a hard justification, but because its my go to for hiking/ backpacking, and also just goin about daily life in the rain, its an easier justification. same thing w base layers or wool/ fleece stuff i can also use for snowboarding.
I've seen a few of your vids, and you always make sure to enjoy your camping by taking moments to yourself while then being informative after your alone time. thank you for being relatable and knowledgeable.
When I started camping again with my kids in scouts I first got the Ozark Trail gear as I needed some camping gear quickly and cheap. Got the set with a tent, sleeping bags, bed rolls,chairs, and pillows. Still have the tent and chairs as we learned the upgrades need to be quickly.
My boys also started their troop life with those type of backpacks which are actually pretty good but just a little heavy. Theirs has the mesh pocket on the back which makes a huge difference for jamming things in.
That is a very solid stove! Double sealed and the igniter lasts. Got mine at least 3 years ago
That’s so good to know!!
I love seeing your happiness with the most basic things in life.
I had the insulated Static V for a bit when I got back into camping and it had a proper one way valve. I used it on it's own down to 40s(? it has been a few years) and it was ok. Not super warm or comfortable, but i think it is a decent, affordable pad if you are just testing out the waters.
I love that you’re sticking with the decathlon because it’s So Good.
the Ozark trail stove is so clutch!
Interesting and entertaining video. This had some really good information for new backpackers who don't want to spend a lot of money. I got the same stove a while back and love it. It works so well for being so inexpensive and so far has been very reliable. I got it to shave even more grams from my packs load. I'm an old guy and have been backpacking for 56 years. I've found that investing in quality gear is worth it in the long run. This is especially critical if you are in wet and cold conditions. The biggest change in for me over the years has been the reduction in base weight. When I was younger it was normal to have a pack that was 30 to 40 lbs base weight depending on the season. These days I'm at 10 to 13 lbs depending on the season.
I bought the Klymit sleeping pad about 5 years ago when on the first night of a 9-day camping trip I came to the shock realization my 50-year-old body now needed more underneath it than it used to. That pad is what was available on no notice (short of a giant air mattress) as the nearest town had a Wal-Mart. I don't find it difficult to inflate, it has never deflated on me and so far as comfort goes it is far better than nothing, but I am under no illusions about better options being out there. I found it adequate and reliable and like its compact size when stowed. That said, I am shopping for something better.
The REI Trailmade pad is seriously the best. It's got an r value of 5.5 and is under $90. I strap it onto the outside of my bag because it's a little bulky. I also love the kelty tents, sleeping bags, and packs, all super budget friendly and great quality.
Yeah, those self-inflating pads that started with Thermarest have solid R-ratings and decently comfortable cushion depending on the thickness, but they are heavier than today's blow-up pads. I've still got my original from the late 1970s and it works well other than weighing over two pounds.
@@memathews it's honestly so worth the weight though because you don't need a second pad or any other insulating gear for it to work in every season. The worst is sweating in a bag and freezing from the bottom because the ground is cold. I've been able to just unzip my bag and use it as a quilt in near freezing conditions on those.
I find for ponchos, it's much more effective to put on your pack/gear then throw poncho over everything. It allows much more airflow and allows easier access to things by just reaching under the poncho
A poncho sized to fit over a pack would have been better.
@@sallys2423those are definitely on the market, but I've never seen them at Walmart, and certainly not for anywhere near $5
There is definitely merit in starting with some walmart gear. I bought my first backpacking sleeping bag and pad from Walmart about 10 years ago. I still use the bag to this day for summer camping. The bag is a 40deg (more like 50 comfort), and packs down super small. I think I paid $20. It's rectangular and zips open all the way. Besides sleeping in it, I can zip it open and use it like a big blanket/quilt, or fold it once and sleep under it for a little extra warmth. I really like it for bikepacking since it's so small.
The pad was a 1" self inflating one that packed down pretty small iirc. It popped eventually but was definitely worth the price.
Can you consider doing a video on backpacking pillows? I’ve tried at least a dozen and have yet to find one that I think is the winner winner chicken dinner of pillows. Love your videos!
I have cuddle duds and love them. I use them for backpacking and snowboarding.
I am enjoying the video already! I love that you made backpacking and outdoors adventures more accessible by making these videos. Love it
My friend has an Ozark Trail tent that has survived several truly disastrous camping trips, two of which ended early after our campsite flooded. I'm not Walmart's biggest fan but I've got to admit their tents are pretty sturdy
Loving this series so far, but got so excited when I saw you flash the Paria Outdoors logo at the end. Been considering their tent and pad for some time now but never pulled the trigger
I have a Paria quilt and pad. A little heavy but super warm & comfy.
@@lskazalski I have there Bryce 1p tent and Thermodown 15°quilt and I love them. Best money ever spent. Seen them on a Dan Becker video. Hopefully Miranda reviews there products. Also seen they have quite a bit of budget gear.
Those trees were absolutely beautiful! 💛💛💛💛 Thanks for sharing!!
Aren’t they so beautiful?!?
@@MirandaGoesOutside Here on the East Coast, at least in Atlantic Canada, our larch species are called tamarack, or even hackmatack! So fun :D Tamaracks are tied for my favourite conifers, as I love their name, their colour changing, the tufty way their needles are arranged, and they have the cutest cones ever! like tiny rosebuds. Only rival is the balsam fir, which makes for the best, most bushy, most fragrant Christmas trees!
The imperfect trips are the best. Entertaining while relatable.
As a relative newcomer to backpacking, I’ve started with a lot of Walmart or garage sale gear. My opinion of this stove is very different: The lighter didn’t work for me at altitude (thankfully, I had a backup Bic), and the pot stands seem awkward. (I also have the Coleman you mentioned. It’s a great stove, but heavy at 6.2 oz.) I’m currently deciding on the best stove for me. Was going to go BRS, but want better wind performance and a larger-diameter head for use with my Toaks 900.
When the forecast for my summer trip to New Mexico changed at the last minute, I picked up this very bag to replace my 50-degree Decathlon bag the night before my trip. I was very impressed with its performance in the low 40s, but like you, I found it very heavy at 3.7 lbs.
I am still not sure if labeling it "Bear Bag" doesn't actually mean you either have to put the bear in the bag or that it's a bag for the bear... but I do love the look of it. Sadly we live in Polar Bear Country with no trees, so a bear bag wouldn't do anything to help us keep the big floofs out of our food...
5:30 "Hopefully it doesn't rain." Foreshadowing....
Looking forward to the 3F UL testing !!
I always hate the rainhood getting in my face, so I put my hat on top to keep it in place even if it means my had gets soaked.
The irony, I guess, about Walmart is that they used to have this "American" image, but mainly they just import Chinese products to rural America. This may sound political, but it's more economic - the only way all this stuff is so impossibly cheap (The backpack - how is it even possible to ship, much less manufacture that, for that price!) is low-cost, often brutal labor.
Sorry to be a downer - I love the channel!
Volume is the bigger reason for low costs... Lots of premium brands make their products in the Far East. The difference is Walmart has all their own distribution in much larger numbers. They are almost totally vertically integrated.
I like the idea the guy had on the other video idea for a video army surplus gear
a good poncho hack is to find the largest one you can and drape it over yourself + your bag! (or get a poncho specially designed for that purpose, but ive heard those can be pricy)
I love your dungarees with the succulents on it 😍💚💙🌵
AGREED...Where did you get those Miranda????
@@thespaztastic1-em5elKavu. West coast company makes all kinds of clothes, backpacks, waist packs and purses.
I’ve been using Klymit Static V insulated pads and it’s not hard to blow up w the regular flush valve. They are pretty good w an extra foam layer below. Plus good for tall and 30” width! I bought three Ozark Trail headlamps in 2021 for family camping and we still use them. I actually like it better than my Black Diamond headlamp bc the buttons and illumination choices are easier to get through. Of course the best is the classic SS OT bottle cup!
Thank you for taking it for the team. I would have chickened out with this inexpensive gear. Now I know it's do-able.
Thank you for showcasing accessible gear!
I bought the Ozark Trail 4 person tent as a car camping tent to use in case our dog came with us, not bad! Fit 2 people and medium size dog comfortably!
Ever consider a tarp for shelter? Works nicely!
thank you for these budget gear ⚙️ videos. i’m gathering a kit for my foster son to use on his first trip, and your reviews have been so helpful! he’s never camped at all, so we are diving in with a (short and easy) backpacking trip!
Love it!
Thanks for all the great trips and info. Oh.. and being so awesome! Gawsh Darn!
For the pad, either breathing through your nose, or having the cap twisted just barely open so a slight twist will close it, small twist and breathe then small twist to take a breath, not ideal but it works when we were using the budget stuff!
I wear cuddl duds and even their pajamas 💞
I love watching your TH-cam and your positive attitude. 🥰
Started hiking by buying Walmart and Amazon gear. Still use it. Gotta dig deep for the lighter stuff but I haven’t bought expensive gear yet minus an Osprey 65L backpack which was still cheap compared to others at only $160. It actually isn’t as comfortable as my ozark trails 65L but it has venting on it so I use it during summer and the Ozark Trail one in winter. I’ve also used a 0° Ozark Trail mummy bag for 4 years now and it was only like $60? It’s quite amazing but it does take up a ton of room. I’ve recently got a down/synthetic mix one from Amazon and it was only $80 and it’s amazing also and packs a little smaller.
I’ve also found Ozark Trail gear to be way more durable than anything I’ve used and it seems more durable than other expensive brands from what I’ve seen on videos.
Yeah, definitely seems the more expensive, the lighter/less bulky but also consequently less tough/durable.
@@annethornton9938 some of it is actually made with pretty durable materials like the dyneema but for the price I’ll buy the ozark trails gear and not go broke buying it and deal with the little bit of extra weight. I just learned to take more breaks if needed.
The klymit static V is only slightly better than sleeping on a rock. Spend some more money and get something a few steps up. Don't cheap out on the sleep setup. :)
I needed a Miranda video today. Hooray!
Please try the hikenture R 6.2 ultrathick pad!! I think it is great, light, compact, but very high and comfy and overall great for the value (I believe I got it for around 60bucks) but I can't find any reviews about it, I can't understand why no one speaks about it :D maybe is it not available in the us?
Loved this video! Love your honest reviews of the gear which help me as a first year hiker/backpacker! Thanks!!
I absolutely love this video! CuddlDuds have been my baselayers for years and are so awesome.
Walmart and Ozark Trail have really stepped up their game with their outdoors products. One of the sons of Sam Walton is huge into backpacking and mountain biking, so he has really pushed for Ozark Trail to make the outdoors accessible to everyone. Their bikes used to be laughable pieces of junk, but now they're actually good, and even better with some affordable upgrades.
Down blanket was your hidden luxury
I mentioned this on an Eric Hansen video: Klymit makes an insulated version of this sleeping pad that's like $20 more. There are questions about the actual R value of their insulated pad, but Eric did try that one and liked it better.
I’m super excited I’ve been waiting for a new upload 😁😁 I’m still watching but so far I’m really enjoying it. Thank you for the video guys!
Our family has had an incredibly difficult year, and I started hiking and camping as a way to withdraw and heal. I didn't have much money and bought my supplies from Walmart. I have taken them out nearly a dozen times in the last couple of months and I am honestly impressed with their performance and grateful that I was able to afford what I needed in the midst of a tough time.
Miranda, uou have helped me decide on alot of my gear, while not finished yet Im getting close to being set gear wise , many thanks! You are so much fun, love ya! Happy trails! 🍁🍄🙏
I would definitely recommend wool over synthetic, especially as a base layer. If you get soaked wool will keep you warm synthetic will not.
right those chicken and dumpling mountain houses are so dang good one of my go to meals when im just grabbing something from the store for a trip
Living vicariously though you this week. Thanks for sharing the larches with us!
This video was great Miranda! Super thorough and fun :)
I’m so excited about this video! I’ve always been so curious to try Walmart gear 😅
I'm glad you're well enough to continue to make videos! You're always in my thoughts ❤❤
Thank you for doing this series, Miranda. I am building my backpacking gear (w/ my 2 dogs) trip by trip and some of the Ozark gear you tested I was deliberating on but am now SOLD! Majority of my gear is from your videos. THANK YOU!!! Safe travels