2018 install... Just finished installing and here's a little tip: The brown paper packaging that is supplied is perforated into strips roughly the size of a candy bar. Tear off a single strip, crease it down the middle vertically and rest it below the 7mm nuts before removal and during the reinstall. This way you won't lose the nut WHEN you drop them, because unless you have the fingers of a 5yo and the dexterity of a surgeon you WILL drop at least one. The brown paper trick saved me big time. I also tightened the nuts semi-snug and then used a toothpick to push the washer to the center. Good luck.
THE REAL HOMIE! If you really need to fish one out that you dropped they sell these extendable magnet pens for retrieving nuts out of places you cant reach!
Old comment i know but how do you know which one to order? It says theres one for 15-17 and 18+ with sti short throw and then theres one for 18+ without short throw. I've inspected 2 18+ wrx's and they both look the same as the shifter in the video. I couldnt tell if they had a sti short throw or not
Best 20 bucks spent on my car. Don't know why this couldn't be standard off the production line...either way, you won't regret this cheap, but highly noticeable upgrade.
makes a really big difference! 1st to 2nd is so much better! Also the brass bushing is great. Feels like how it should have come from the factory. Both extremely easy and affordable upgrades that make such a big difference! Thank you subiespeed for the quick shopping too!
I have used this amazing product for many years on my 2020 Subaru Brembo WRX. The shift action is neat and tidy for a very high torque gearbox. Please fiddle with the adjustment until perfection is achieved. Make it your Kanji.
I did the install on my 2015 forester just as you did in the video, works great! Thanks for making it. The next step is installing the Perrin shifter bushing.
Great product, one issue is not finding 5th once you release the stock shift stop... 5th gear is closer to 3rd gear than the right side of the shift total stop. Everyone is having problems with 5th gear because the shifter is extending PAST 5th gear gate. Try to move your 5th gear "shift" closer to 3rd and you'll find it again. Had this problem and I thought I was going to have to take it to Subaru before I did a bit of googling. Awesome product all together!
For anyone who's an idiot and never used tools before like me, remember that counter-clockwise loosens bolts. I'm extremely lucky to have gotten the broken bolt out.
By far the BEST install video in this product! My only question is... What is the purpose, if having to remove the 2 7mil nuts, to put the washers on... Just to put back on nuts??? That part wasn't explained. Great install video!!!
If the bolts keep spinning when you try to remove them to install the washers jam a screwdriver in between the bolt head and the plastic with one hand and turn the wrench with the other. Then complain to Subaru about them keep trying to hold bolt heads still with plastic.
@@dokktekk I dropped a washer when I installed it 3 years ago. To this day I'm still running strong without the washers so to the best of my knowledge so far, doesn't seem to be necessary.
Bottom nut and washer went on no problem. Top one not so much tried for over an hour and it wouldn't budge. The rod kept trying to move but the nut wouldn't budge. It shifts just fine so it's going to stay that way any thoughts as to how it might affect? There is the slightest amount of wiggle in the unit at the top obviously without a washer but not enough to be concerned
So I installed to a tea. And I go to let the clutch out in first and the car bogs and stalls. Is it possible there stop is too far over to the right and not letting 1st “fully” engage even though I I set the spacing and can get into every gear just fine. I reset everything back to stock and removed the 2 washers and everything seemed fine I don’t get it???
I had a bit of problem at first. It was shifting normally for a few days and all of sudden, it wasn't shifting to 5th. It turned out that 10mm bolts weren't torqued enough.
I put this on my WRX last night, I had to redo it once since I think the OEM shifter moved after adjusting 5th gear and going into 1st. I couldn't get it into 5th after full install >.> But I still have 'some' issues with 5th, not sure if it is just me or if I am going in at the 'wrong' angle, I am going to go and redo it once again, not sure if the washers play a huge role in this or not.. this is not a difficult install, the hardest part was making sure the opposite shifter stop doesn't move when adjusting
Yes it may take some readjusting. Just take some time to make sure everything is lined up straight and you'll be set! We've been loving ours, it really cleans up the shifter.
1 and 2 gear are perfect, it is the 5th gear that didn't go in when I was on the freeway today, I had to 'retry' to get it to shift into 5th, I don't recall going in at any different of an angle either... I think the washers are as good as they are going to get, I just hand tightened, then 1/2 turn, looks like it could go more though easily, they were very easy to undo when I first took them off.
Robert Nguyen, CMA Like you said, you're probably going to have to go in and readjust the stock plastic stop. We had to do the same to get it just right.
I think I will adjust 1st gear first, then 5th, I noticed the OEM one moves more than the perrin one when adjusting. how important are the washers? I mean they are on there....
I'm having trouble removing the nut on the top left; keeps spinning with the bolt and won't loosen. Should I use no washers or simply use just the one on the bottom nut?
I installed this about a year ago correctly, to include the washers. Now my shift seems to not be centered. It pushes a little to the 1st and 2nd side. So I now have to give the slightest push over to get it into 3rd or 4th. Would this have any relation to this install?
Should I also place the shifter in 2nd and 6th when creating that tiny gap between the stoppers and shifter? If it is in 1st and 5th only, won't that created an angle?
Yes, you want to make sure you can access all gears properly. Just be careful when shifting so you don't move the stoppers and make yourself start over.
Also, don't touch the fucking reverse lockout. It's pointless. If you move that shit you're screwing up 5th and 6th. I installed a Boomba STS and moving that thing a 1/8" will screw up your shifts into 5th/6th. Next time tell the dumb ass not to wiggle the reverse lockout in the video. That's a horrible fucking idea for such an easy installation.
Can someone explain to me .Do i need 2 diff parts to get the tighter feeling in the gearbox .Ive been told it's this Perrin shift stop..also a Perrin bushing?
You may want to take the washer that you still have left to your hardware store and see if you can find a similar one. The most important part is the shifter stop itself so it shouldn't be too big of an issue.
I just bought one for my 2018 WRX STI with a short throw shifter, it looks nothing like this gearbox. I can’t find any instructions on how to install it... 😐
I just finished installing this. I dropped the top nut & washer off the bolt. I got the washer on the bottom one. Is losing the top nut & washer going to affect anything? Am I able to get a nut from Subaru?
+Eric Lee You will at least want to get a replacement nut on there so the assembly is properly assembled. You can take the bolt to the hardware store to get one.
You shouldn't have any issues with it long term, however, if you're going to the hardware store to grab a nut you might as well go ahead and grab a washer while you're at it.
I have a quick question when I installed this my the Perrin shift stop did a great job and cleaning up my first and second gear and fifth and sixth gear shifts however my third and fourth shifts have a lot of play now...what could I have done wrong?
@@SubiSpeed I got a replacement coming so I’m gonna have my wife use her nimble fingers to do that part lol my fat fingers don’t fit in there lol. Is it normal to “hear” the shift stop hitting the stick or does that mean I didn’t tighten down the stop enough ?
It's not suppose to "help" you get into gear better, it makes staying in 1st and 2nd gear feel a lot cleaner, it wont wiggle as much. Feels more premium!
I purchased this mod for my 2017 STI. Is this not a compatible mod with STI models? If so, is there a video on how to remove the shifter boot on a 2017 STI? Thank you.
SubiSpeed thank you for the quick reply. Unfortunate, I'll wait to see if they decide to make one for the STI. Not as much slop, but I'd like to narrow my gates too.
Shouldn't the washers go inside the left side bracket and the spacer rod? On the outside makes no difference. If not, you could just tighten it down more.
brainb74 LastHumansGarage The washer go on the outside to push the whole assemble together without overtightening that bolt. If you just tighten it down you put more strain on the bolt as opposed to spreading the pressure out onto the washer.
nothing "voids a warranty." but if you install this and you have issues with your shifter/shifting aparatus then Subaru can deny a warranty claim for it. But they can never void your warranty regardless of what you install from aftermarket. They can only deny a warranty claim if what you installed fucked something up.
If you have a 2018+ Model with the STI STS please select the 15-17 model. www.subispeed.com/2015-subaru-wrx/drivetrain/shifter-bushings/perrin-shifter-stop-2015-wrx#.WlYdPt-nGrw
I could not remove either 7mm nuts, they wouldn't budge, are the washers necessary? what is their purpose? Also for anyone who lost anything in their console, I found this guide very helpful: th-cam.com/video/Hwc_IvxD59Q/w-d-xo.html
I know this is old but for someone down the road who may see it. I have the STI short throw and I installed it just fine...just be sure to tighten the new bolts enough that they don't start moving from normal use.
I installed the shift stop and the reverse lockout moves up when I downshift from third to second or when I wiggle the shifter in neutral, anyone have this issue?
don't move that fucking piece after removing the bolts or you'll fuck up 5th and 6th. why the hell is he messing with the reverse lockout like that? DO NOT FUCKING MOVE THAT THING. lol. christ.
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2018 install...
Just finished installing and here's a little tip: The brown paper packaging that is supplied is perforated into strips roughly the size of a candy bar. Tear off a single strip, crease it down the middle vertically and rest it below the 7mm nuts before removal and during the reinstall. This way you won't lose the nut WHEN you drop them, because unless you have the fingers of a 5yo and the dexterity of a surgeon you WILL drop at least one. The brown paper trick saved me big time.
I also tightened the nuts semi-snug and then used a toothpick to push the washer to the center.
Good luck.
THE REAL HOMIE! If you really need to fish one out that you dropped they sell these extendable magnet pens for retrieving nuts out of places you cant reach!
Thanks for this heads up, installing these bad boys when I get home from work
i was thinking about this as he was doing it if they drop down there your not getting them back lmao
I wish I would of read this before I lost one!
Old comment i know but how do you know which one to order? It says theres one for 15-17 and 18+ with sti short throw and then theres one for 18+ without short throw.
I've inspected 2 18+ wrx's and they both look the same as the shifter in the video. I couldnt tell if they had a sti short throw or not
Best 20 bucks spent on my car. Don't know why this couldn't be standard off the production line...either way, you won't regret this cheap, but highly noticeable upgrade.
makes a really big difference! 1st to 2nd is so much better! Also the brass bushing is great. Feels like how it should have come from the factory. Both extremely easy and affordable upgrades that make such a big difference! Thank you subiespeed for the quick shopping too!
I have used this amazing product for many years on my 2020 Subaru Brembo WRX. The shift action is neat and tidy for a very high torque gearbox. Please fiddle with the adjustment until perfection is achieved. Make it your Kanji.
I did the install on my 2015 forester just as you did in the video, works great! Thanks for making it. The next step is installing the Perrin shifter bushing.
2nd gear is spot on. It feels smooth and no play what so ever. Maybe just the slightest play but its solid. Worth the $38 bucks.
Hey! Do you still have the WRX? How has it been treating ya?
Great product, one issue is not finding 5th once you release the stock shift stop... 5th gear is closer to 3rd gear than the right side of the shift total stop. Everyone is having problems with 5th gear because the shifter is extending PAST 5th gear gate. Try to move your 5th gear "shift" closer to 3rd and you'll find it again. Had this problem and I thought I was going to have to take it to Subaru before I did a bit of googling. Awesome product all together!
Chris Spano thank you so much bro! This helped me a lot
Having this issue with my wrx too I find it really hard to get into 5 so I had to remove the shifter stopper
Needed this, thanks!
For anyone who's an idiot and never used tools before like me, remember that counter-clockwise loosens bolts. I'm extremely lucky to have gotten the broken bolt out.
Just got one of mine stuck and I am stressed af about it. How where you able to get yours out?
By far the BEST install video in this product! My only question is... What is the purpose, if having to remove the 2 7mil nuts, to put the washers on... Just to put back on nuts??? That part wasn't explained. Great install video!!!
The washers are used to make sure there are no gaps in the shifter assembly as a whole.
Curious what purpose those washers serve
Will my car implode if I dont install the 2 washers? Thank you for the install videos!!!!
Did it implode? Nobody has a 7mm😂
I used some small pliers 😂
I had installed this great thing a month ago. I may just re adjust it but its a good way to add some stoppage to the wobble.
If the bolts keep spinning when you try to remove them to install the washers jam a screwdriver in between the bolt head and the plastic with one hand and turn the wrench with the other.
Then complain to Subaru about them keep trying to hold bolt heads still with plastic.
It's 2am here and I don't even have a car why TF am I watching it xDDD
Ohh wait I love cars.
What's the point of the washers? What exactly do they do?
Kyle Marberger yes @subispeed what are the washers for??
@subispeed what the hell are these washers for>?!?
Do you even need the washers is my question?
I don't even see any connection between the 7mm nuts and it's attachment point to the actual stop brace. It doesn't seem to be a necessary piece .
@@dokktekk I dropped a washer when I installed it 3 years ago. To this day I'm still running strong without the washers so to the best of my knowledge so far, doesn't seem to be necessary.
Bottom nut and washer went on no problem. Top one not so much tried for over an hour and it wouldn't budge. The rod kept trying to move but the nut wouldn't budge. It shifts just fine so it's going to stay that way any thoughts as to how it might affect? There is the slightest amount of wiggle in the unit at the top obviously without a washer but not enough to be concerned
So I installed to a tea. And I go to let the clutch out in first and the car bogs and stalls. Is it possible there stop is too far over to the right and not letting 1st “fully” engage even though I I set the spacing and can get into every gear just fine. I reset everything back to stock and removed the 2 washers and everything seemed fine I don’t get it???
I had a bit of problem at first. It was shifting normally for a few days and all of sudden, it wasn't shifting to 5th. It turned out that 10mm bolts weren't torqued enough.
Juno Im what did you do to get it fixed?!?
@@jcmorcilla3365 probably just torqued the bolts more
Thank you for the video. Keep them coming.
Accidentally tightened the 10mm nut rather then loosen it fml. It snapped clean off. Any ideas on how to get the remainder out?
I have a 2018 base WRX with the boomba short shifter. Should I be using the Perrin PSP-INR-018 or PSP-INR-019 shift stop?
I put this on my WRX last night, I had to redo it once since I think the OEM shifter moved after adjusting 5th gear and going into 1st. I couldn't get it into 5th after full install >.>
But I still have 'some' issues with 5th, not sure if it is just me or if I am going in at the 'wrong' angle, I am going to go and redo it once again, not sure if the washers play a huge role in this or not..
this is not a difficult install, the hardest part was making sure the opposite shifter stop doesn't move when adjusting
Yes it may take some readjusting. Just take some time to make sure everything is lined up straight and you'll be set! We've been loving ours, it really cleans up the shifter.
1 and 2 gear are perfect, it is the 5th gear that didn't go in when I was on the freeway today, I had to 'retry' to get it to shift into 5th, I don't recall going in at any different of an angle either...
I think the washers are as good as they are going to get, I just hand tightened, then 1/2 turn, looks like it could go more though easily, they were very easy to undo when I first took them off.
Robert Nguyen, CMA Like you said, you're probably going to have to go in and readjust the stock plastic stop. We had to do the same to get it just right.
I think I will adjust 1st gear first, then 5th, I noticed the OEM one moves more than the perrin one when adjusting.
how important are the washers? I mean they are on there....
Washers are important but your main concern is with the perrin and stock shift stop.
I'm having trouble removing the nut on the top left; keeps spinning with the bolt and won't loosen. Should I use no washers or simply use just the one on the bottom nut?
...make shifting so much more enjoyable. not sure about the included washers as they make no mechanical sense at all. bin it!!
I installed this about a year ago correctly, to include the washers. Now my shift seems to not be centered. It pushes a little to the 1st and 2nd side. So I now have to give the slightest push over to get it into 3rd or 4th. Would this have any relation to this install?
Might be wear on the spring or whatever mechanism that sends the shifter back to neutral between 3/4 gears.
do you still need this with the factory short shifter? Do you know if the loose is gone with the factory STS?
Should I also place the shifter in 2nd and 6th when creating that tiny gap between the stoppers and shifter? If it is in 1st and 5th only, won't that created an angle?
Yes, you want to make sure you can access all gears properly. Just be careful when shifting so you don't move the stoppers and make yourself start over.
Also, don't touch the fucking reverse lockout. It's pointless. If you move that shit you're screwing up 5th and 6th. I installed a Boomba STS and moving that thing a 1/8" will screw up your shifts into 5th/6th.
Next time tell the dumb ass not to wiggle the reverse lockout in the video. That's a horrible fucking idea for such an easy installation.
I'm looking at getting one but... Would work for 2014 xv
I assume this is compatible with any short throw shifter?
What shift knob is that?
Can someone explain to me .Do i need 2 diff parts to get the tighter feeling in the gearbox .Ive been told it's this Perrin shift stop..also a Perrin bushing?
Yeah, there's a bushing you can install underneath the car.
What kind of knob is that?
Can install on sti 2018? Thanks
Is the Boomba shift stop any good?
done installing on my 2016 wrx but didnt put the washer would it be ok ???
Yes
I'm not mechanically inclined and I dropped one of the washers and its under the shifter and I can't get to it. What should I do?
You may want to take the washer that you still have left to your hardware store and see if you can find a similar one. The most important part is the shifter stop itself so it shouldn't be too big of an issue.
this doesn't work for my 2015 sub sti limited does it?
Can you use the bushing and the shifter stop together? Will it make shifting feel much better?
Yes you will be able to feel the difference right away.
SubiSpeed nice! I just ordered both. Please ship asap :)
@@mantid83 did u get them yet?
@@duLuded bruh this was 7 years ago lol. And, yes, i did get it lol.
@@mantid83 LMAO yeah I just wanted to be funny. I just ordered mine, hope it doesnt take 7 years to come in
What is the point of the 2 washers? I don't understand what their purpose is in regards to the shifter.
squeezes the assembly together
SubiSpeed makes sense. They were the hardest part of the install because i dropped one lol
will this work with the OEM short throw shifter up grade? 2017 WRX... Thanks ...
Yes, it will!
I just bought one for my 2018 WRX STI with a short throw shifter, it looks nothing like this gearbox. I can’t find any instructions on how to install it... 😐
Would this be compatible with the 2015 Subaru XV Crosstrek or 2015 Impreza? I'm pretty sure have the exact same gearbox. Cheers.
I don't think so
The OE bolts broke off when I was attempting to remove them and now they're stuck can anyone help?
Same lol
hope you got this fixed. but you could get a drill with a bolt remover.
Same
Question, is this compatible with 2017 wrx short shifter. I just want to know before i buy it. Ty
Yes
So I installed mine and now can’t get into fifth gear… any pointers?
loosen up the allen bolts and adjust it. sounds like you have it a little too tight
I just finished installing this. I dropped the top nut & washer off the bolt. I got the washer on the bottom one. Is losing the top nut & washer going to affect anything? Am I able to get a nut from Subaru?
+Eric Lee You will at least want to get a replacement nut on there so the assembly is properly assembled. You can take the bolt to the hardware store to get one.
+SubiSpeed Will not having the washer affect the shifter long term?
You shouldn't have any issues with it long term, however, if you're going to the hardware store to grab a nut you might as well go ahead and grab a washer while you're at it.
use magnetic screw driver to pick up the nuts
+turbobenx lol ya me 2 when he said "am I able to get a nut from subaru" I spit out my food lmao
I have a quick question when I installed this my the Perrin shift stop did a great job and cleaning up my first and second gear and fifth and sixth gear shifts however my third and fourth shifts have a lot of play now...what could I have done wrong?
the shifter stop has nothing to do with third and fourth gear. You may need to look into the bushing.
SubiSpeed ok I just wondering because it only seemed to change after I installed it I'll check thank you!
I dropped one of the damn washers into the abyss. Hope it doesn’t break anything
Shouldn't be a big deal!
@@SubiSpeed I got a replacement coming so I’m gonna have my wife use her nimble fingers to do that part lol my fat fingers don’t fit in there lol. Is it normal to “hear” the shift stop hitting the stick or does that mean I didn’t tighten down the stop enough ?
Strange I don't ever have issues with any of my gears. My shifter seems perfectly fine. 5th is easy as pie to get into as is 6th.
It's not suppose to "help" you get into gear better, it makes staying in 1st and 2nd gear feel a lot cleaner, it wont wiggle as much. Feels more premium!
It does help get into 1st and second. Less play means smoother shift. Use to get caught trying to get into 1st. And second. Now it's way easier
I purchased this mod for my 2017 STI. Is this not a compatible mod with STI models? If so, is there a video on how to remove the shifter boot on a 2017 STI? Thank you.
Bert D. this is only for the 2015+ WRX
SubiSpeed thank you for the quick reply. Unfortunate, I'll wait to see if they decide to make one for the STI. Not as much slop, but I'd like to narrow my gates too.
Shouldn't the washers go inside the left side bracket and the spacer rod? On the outside makes no difference. If not, you could just tighten it down more.
brainb74 that's what i been confused about also.
brainb74 LastHumansGarage The washer go on the outside to push the whole assemble together without overtightening that bolt. If you just tighten it down you put more strain on the bolt as opposed to spreading the pressure out onto the washer.
LastHumansGarage
you didn't show reverse gear is that ok??
Yes reverse works just fine :)
reverse lockout go over the stopper...
Do you know if this could void warranty? Does it give more confidence going from fourth into fifth gear?
nothing "voids a warranty." but if you install this and you have issues with your shifter/shifting aparatus then Subaru can deny a warranty claim for it. But they can never void your warranty regardless of what you install from aftermarket. They can only deny a warranty claim if what you installed fucked something up.
Just put it back to its original form before you head to the dealership. Problem solved
Will this work on a Base 2018 WRX w/Short Throw shifter? What is the model #? Thanks!
If you have a 2018+ Model with the STI STS please select the 15-17 model.
www.subispeed.com/2015-subaru-wrx/drivetrain/shifter-bushings/perrin-shifter-stop-2015-wrx#.WlYdPt-nGrw
Does this work with 17 wrx with sti short throw sifter? TIA, planning to get one
Yes it does!
Subaru is buying my Wrx back for being a lemon and I have to go back to stock I don't know where I put my 10mm bolts does anybody know the oem size?.
Dang dude....why is it a lemon? What was wrong with it?
My base WRX came with the factory STi short shifter option, don't feel the need for this but I could be wrong?..
The short shifter has a different purpose than the Perring Shifter Stop. The stop really cleans up your shifts and gets rid of the play.
SubiSpeed so the sti short throw shifter for the wrx would benefit from this?
Andrew Outhouse Yes, this cleans up the shifting mechanism very well.
So this same setup works for a '17 STI?
What is the size of the hex torque key?
comes with part
where is your shop located?
We are located in Des Moines, IA.
www.subispeed.com/about-us/
What shift knob are they using here? Anyone know by any chance?
www.subispeed.com/mtec-drift-shift-knob#.XAVjwehKirw
@@SubiSpeed Much appreciated, thanks!
What shift knob is that in the thumbnail?
Unfortunately, that's Perrin's photo so we couldn't say.
@@SubiSpeed Aww, thanks for the reply though!
Anyone know where the nuts fall too??
R.i.p. nut
So this is compatible with the 2015 STI with a short throw shifter installed am I correct?
I don't think so, 2 different types of shifter assemblies
This will only fit the 2015 WRX not the STI sorry :(
I could not remove either 7mm nuts, they wouldn't budge, are the washers necessary? what is their purpose?
Also for anyone who lost anything in their console, I found this guide very helpful: th-cam.com/video/Hwc_IvxD59Q/w-d-xo.html
would this work with the cobb short throw?
+mike perosi and the way you take the outer trim and shift boot off is that the same for the STI too?
+mike perosi this part is a WRX specific part
+SubiSpeed I have a WRX with the STI Short shifter, I take it this will not work with it?
I know this is old but for someone down the road who may see it. I have the STI short throw and I installed it just fine...just be sure to tighten the new bolts enough that they don't start moving from normal use.
Thanks for the reply Ryan! We have confirmed plenty of other clients using this on their WRX with the factory STI short throw from the factory.
Forget it I found it lol
For some reason I'm either getting locked out of 5th or 6th
Andrew Robillard you need to adjust your oem lockout
SubiSpeed perfect I got it actually I just had to adjust it a little and put my clutch back in and that worked, thanks!
I installed the shift stop and the reverse lockout moves up when I downshift from third to second or when I wiggle the shifter in neutral, anyone have this issue?
I have the same issue. It's any time I go to 2nd. I see the issue when you go through the gears with the shift boot off. Don't see a fix...
Kevin is so hot
Anyone have this installed? Worth $50-60?
Totally, I have the sti short shifter too. This makes a great amount of difference
god damn smurfs have giant weeners!!
don't move that fucking piece after removing the bolts or you'll fuck up 5th and 6th. why the hell is he messing with the reverse lockout like that? DO NOT FUCKING MOVE THAT THING. lol. christ.
He is getting rid of the slop in 5th and 6th gear. It doesn't mess anything up as he shows going through all the gears at the end...
i didnt see him messing with the reverse. can you point it out with a timeframe? thanks