Just had a test ride yesterday on the DCT model. First time i rode a DCT, had to get used to it at first, did not like the D stetting, shifts up to fast and not down fast enough . But than i tried Sport 1 and 2. Those are good, sometimes flip one gear down if you want to but workes great. Also a handy cruise control. When you get used to it, it offers a very relaxed ride. But if you want it is fast enough. Good screen and i'm 1,69 meters tall (about 5ft6 / 7) and had no problem with the hight of the bike , which is not always the case. All in all a very good bike and i can understand that people like the DCT. I heard that in the Netherlands more than 50% buys it with DCT. And yes it looks better in life than on screen.
Greetings from Australia. I have just purchased at Honda NT1100 DCT. I am plus 70 years and absolutely loving the DCT and the bike in general. So smooth to ride on our roads. Looking forward to the hopefully next few years of riding. Your review of the bike was spot on. Keep,up the good work. Cheers
Been riding for years (since 16 yrs old) now at 60 years old can not see using DCT except for maybe the big heavy Gold Wing. I have an Africa Twin AS in manual and like the control. So I an wondering about wrong gears at the wrong time _even just a sight mistake with DCT._ Anyway, if you like DCT, *you* like it.
I got to test ride one of these last year. It was my first time on any DCT bike and I got used to it really quickly. It was a really nice ride. Did find the throttle a bit snatch at low speeds. Im 5ft6 and 29" legs and its was very manageable. The NT1100 was quite an intimidating when I first saw it but that quickly disappeared. I did find I was hitting the menu buttons instead of the indicators, but I think that is just a muscle memory thing. If I hadnt gone for something from the Italian lakes, the NT1100 would be my second equal choice with the BMW R1250RS. Ive seen a few NT1100 in UK and they all seem to be DCT
I like the bike but think as a touring bike Honda should have fitted the electronic suspension from the Africa Twin, or at least offered it as an option.
I always rode my Africa Twin in manual mode. Its basically ridden as a bike with a quick shifter. You simply chose the gear you want with the up and down paddle shifters. Everyone seems to be missing out by not using this feature.
...yes, people often overlook this option. I had NC750X with DCT, and after just few days of owning it, I switched to manual mode and never came back to automatic. You are in control (within the boundreys of revs) and shifts are always seamless. Now I have BMW F 750 GS and have to struggle for "perfect shifting", without clunking and jerking (owning a bike just few weeks and it is going better every day, but still not there quite yet). So, DCT defenetly have some advantages. Only downside for someone may be low speed manuvering.
First time bike owner here… (2022 Honda Rebel 1100 DCT). DCT allowed me to get into motorcycles (at 45yo) with absolutely no problems. Highly recommended. You really can’t lose with this 1100 DCT lineup from Honda.
Silly thing is they have a power screen on the much cheaper Forza 350 scooter so just left off here for to squeak into a price point. I am sure it will come late in the Pro version along with the electronic suspension of the AT.
As a fellow rider and honda fan from india, its so sad and frustrating that Honda india do not offer many of their products to us. They have a very limited inventory, even worse is their dealer network. As always, enjoyed the video. I really hope honda brings this bike to india. :) Happy riding
Great job 👍🏻 I love the bike but myself I really hate the DTC. I hate the shaking of the engine. Even with sport after time when you drive little bit slower hanging behind the car is gone up to gear and shake. Well, I bought my Africa tween 2016 with 3600 km😊 I hope I will be satisfied
My body is ready for an old man bike but not my spirit. I suspect that all changes inside the first 10 minutes of riding it. I love the exhaust note of the Africa Twin and this bike sounds just as good.
DCT vs manual in The Netherlands. Recently I heard a Dutch motorcycle journalist say it’s 90/10. (90% DCT) I’m not entirely sure if that’s true but I’m not surprised about that number. Could very well be the case.
A friend of mine who’s working for Honda convinced me to try this bike. I also tried a 1290 GT, which is awesome, but I ended up with a 1250 RS 😉. Love KTM but coming from a Superduke I wanted to try something else. Just got the Triple Black and so far I’m happy ✌️
Nice review, thanks. In many ways the NT is the modern equivalent of my VFR1200X DCT Crosstourer, which also has D, S1, S2 and S3 modes. Its interesting that, just like with the modern NT, in D mode my Crosstourer goes up the gears very quickly and is in top gear at quite low speeds. For that reason I usually ride around in S1, which gives a much better response. I believe all the S modes do is to change where the gears shift, rather than altering engine performance.
Love your down-to-earth reviews. The NC 750 DCT had some issues with a buzz from the motor at 3000/4000 revs and I fear this could happend to this bike too.
A little later to this discussion but thought I would add my thoughts. Have watch this and other reviews on this bike I had a test ride of the DCT and really enjoyed the bike and gearbox combination. I also rode with the screen at position 4 from the bottom and also found it wind free at 70mph. I didn’t like D mode, it just seems to get into the highest gear as soon as possible and is probably just a mode to meet emissions standard, once I switched to S1 it was much better. I have since ordered the DCT and my dealer said over 80% are DCT.
Stop talking bullshit . If they where that worried about ground clearance the frame wouldn't have the holes for the center stand and the engine cover wouldn't made made of shitty plastic.
Rumor is for those who go DCT truly a life changing experience for what remains still just two wheels with one drive wheel so great to hear your input. I'm sure in future iterations Honda will figure out how to start saving on the weight, improve both efficiency and drivability even more...entire *"NC"* offering by Honda has both reinvented Honda in all of the right ways but I think just an opinion of course saved "traditional" motorcycling which is only now #interestingly coming under pressure from the likes of Zero Motorcycles and LiveWire #former_Harley Hopefully the rest of the Industry takes note as once motorcycling becomes two wheel powered drive well, let's just say huge fan of the Yamaha GTS writing this. Great production value here! Love the camera and sound work!
Question...would you be able to include a potential passenger's review for applicable bikes your review? Just thought it might add more insight to what each bike offers. Hardly anyone gives much more than a passing glance on the passenger pillion. I'm curious now more than ever as I have my partner to consider and want to include her on this expensive hobby or ours. That said, yours is one of my favorite channels and I really appreciate the down to earth character your bring to your videos and review. Thank you!
That is very difficult to do, my wife works full time and I only do this part time, so getting a bike and getting her at the same time is very very difficult, it's only happened twice in 4 years of running this channel. I'd love to do it and I've actually discussed with her that if I can get a bike for a specific weekend we'd do a 2up video, but again getting a bike at the same time that our weekend is free...hmm...needless to say it's a dilemma. I'm going to try to do some this year but we'll see how far I get...sigh. take care, Scott
My wife and I are going to Switzerland for 6 weeks and renting the NT1100 but they do rent a manual transmission. Here in the US I have a AT manual, CB500X manual. I had purchased a 2021 but had 1200 miles. I was at a store and Harley riders totally destroyed it. Police here are being defended so the investigation fell flat. My insurance paid for it. Looking at relocating out of country. My wide is Filipina so may go there. Maybe convince to live Switzerland 6 months and 6 months in the Philippines. Enjoyed your review. The NT1100 is just not available here as from dealers there is not a market for it.
Great review thanks! I like this bike but Honda USA can't seem to make up their mind on releasing it in the USA. Will ether stick with my V Strom 650XT, which is an excellent bike, or move on the the Moto Guzzi V100.
I have a funny feeling that we may never see this bike in the U.S. Honda’s market share in the U.S. Adventure touring segment is basically limited to the CB 500X. The Africa Twin was supposed to fill the gap but that bike has a much more off-road bias with its long travel suspension. The NC 750X is more of a commuter bike and isn’t great cruising at 75 mph. The VFR 1100X was a huge failure here and I don’t think the dealers want to go through that again. I will be interested if it makes it here but I am not getting my hopes up.
one major competitor of this, i think its the vstrom 1050.i wish i could test drive them back to back.what do you think Scott?Is the honda much superior?or not?
Yea, you could compare it to the 1050 but and this is a big but, they are probably about 3-4k difference in price, depending on where you live. Now that's a lot of money and if you don't have the extra cash for the Honda, then the vstrom is the way to go!
@@NothingToProve its 1200 euros more(for the not dct).but it has luggage.i like the looks of the vstrom more.but i prefer the africa engine.the difference in money is not much.i dont know...which do you think is better?
Thanks, great review! IMO, this is one "very nice" do-it-all street/ touring motorcycle. "For me" I'd have to think twice about spending the extra money to get the RT (Yes the RT is nicer but thousands nicer? what % increase nicer? In the end, it just comes down to personal wants/ needs/ likes.
Exactly, "beauty is in the eye of the beholder". This is why when I get asked "what bike should I choose" I always ask back, "well, that depends on what you want?" 😁👍
With the further refinement of up and down quick shifters I struggle to see any real advantage of a DCT gearbox. Never ridden a DCT box though so I'll reserve judgement
Well it’s used in F1 and in a number of super cars such as Ferrari. Point is that the next gear is preselected so changes are quicker than even a quick shifter on a standard box.
@Jim Porter Aye im well aware of its current uses and drive an Audi A4 with the DSG box, but in a touring bike who really needs milli second gear changes and if my car is anything to go by its lurches at slow speeds which is acceptable in a car but not for me on a bike
Yes, the "1 Year Later" video will be coming out soon, I just got the bike back from it's 1st major service (I was waiting for that) so I could include actual costs/repairs/updates...etc. Hopefully 2nd week of May! take care, Scott
I've got a black DCT. Love it but yeah the colour / styling is a bit bland. The speedo btw reads 9 or 10% too slow so to do the real ton (100 mph) you need to be going about an indicated 175 km/h.
The mirrors on the autobahn were crystal clear. Please record vehicles in the mirrors on the autobahn in all videos. It very important to have clear visibility in our mirrors.
Thanks for a great review. Waiting - with less and less patience - for this to come to the US. What's up, Honda?! A pass on the DCT, but only with the quick shifter.
So I'm now looking at this bike as I test rode a new Stelveo at the weekend, not for me I'm afraid but the NT1100 looks like a possible option for me, I'm a lazy rider 😂 Great review thank youv👍
I am really hesitating buying between The Honda NT1100 DCT vs the BMW R1250RT. I really love the DCT feature as really allow you enjoy the trip. But on the other hand I dislike a bit the Chain transmission. What I like from the BMW R1250 RT is the Shat transmission, the design and the Dynamic suspension adjustment but Truth to be said I am a very quite non adventurer driver. Also I have seen quite a few video people compleaining about the reliabillity and expensive maintenace of the BMw one. So here I am still pulling my hair off and not that I have much left.
Scott, this is an awesome review on a super bike!I love this NT by Honda!Great price also, and the design rocks. Your opinion about the peripheral plastics quality?
Missed one of the best sports touring bikes out there, The cost of buying new is much cheaper than most, it's the Kawasaki SX 1000 or Ninja has its now called,
Portugal - DCT is very popular here. 750X DCT is most used, because most people can't afford and don't really need an NT. If ever upgrading to a bigger engine - it would bt NT DCT or VFR1200 DCT. Or maybe something with the new E-clutch that's coming out right now.
Hi Scott, 2 questions: You say it's a bit snatchy in town, but where you in Tour all the time (with 1 blue "P")? One "P" should be the smoothest setting. And what are the biggest differences between your R1250RT and the NT1100 (besides price and power)? Cheers from The Netherlands
Yea, I try everything, just don't have time to show me changing all the settings and trying them out in a video cause then the video would be way toooooooo long and no one would watch it...as it is this video was almost 16 minutes long, which is longer than my usual goal of 12 minutes. Biggest difference...hmm...RT is heavier & has a more solid, stable feel, much better suspension & a lot better torque/pull from low RPM, better wind protection and electric adjustable windscreen (which I do adjust all the time while riding, I have 2 settings that I like and each is dependent upon my speed), this to adjust the screen you have to stop and walk around to the front of the bike and manually move it up or down (most screens you can adjust while riding). But this has Apple Carplay & Android Auto, which I would use if I had it on my RT. Bottom line, I'll keep my RT, I wouldn't trade for this even if they gave me more than it was worth. take care, Scott
@@NothingToProve Regarding RT - NT comparison. I owned an RT, put 160 000 kilometers on it; aside from relatively expensive maintenance, the first half of that was trouble free, the last half was “normal” maintenance costs + plenty of small problems that were very expensive to remedy. At 70 years old I’m almost ready to trade my AT DCT and/or VFR to get a more “pipe ‘n slippers” bike like the NT. I’m glad Honda has postponed selling it in North America hopefully, if it arrives here, it will be a better appointed second generation model. Thanks for the review, my mouth isn’t watering, but it’s sure making me think . . .
Hi. You had BMW F900XR. Me too. What would you say if I sell my bike and go for NT1100 (No DCT)? Would that make any difference? In a sense of comfort, city ride, fuel economy, and safety. Thank you.
Finaly...great review as usual.Well,in Dusseldorf they sell about 60 percents DCT compare to manual but still I would go for manual.Also,the salesman told me they cannot get enough of those since so many guys would like to have it.Only the price puts me off bying it...maybe in one or two years the used one.The best regards.....P.S.Do you think it's insane this days to by an 2012 NT 700?
Na, it's not insane, the old Deauville is still a great bike and will run for a long time, sure it's 10 years old but if you take care of it, it will take care of you. 👍👍 I like older bikes, they still have some soul left, this NT1100 is missing that "soul".
You convert your speed to MPH. Could you also say or show the Inches and Gallons when you state the dimensions and capacities? Maybe if you mentioned online, and ask Honda why they don't import the NT1100 into the USA? Why doesn't Honda put a reverse gear on the NT1100 and the African Twin?
Ive followed you for some time now...and ive scanned thru all your videos.....i dont see where youve ridden the goldwing non-tour dct. Did i miss something???? I want to see you on that bike and hear your thoughts!!😊😊😊😊
Well, neither bike is exciting, they are both engineered to do a specific task and they both do it very well, hence kind of boring. If you want excitement or soul get the Mandello V100, now that is a sexy bike and it has a shaft drive and electronic suspension option. take care, Scott
@@edlorenser498Bangkok traffic can be uncomfortable and no fun indeed! 😬However with DCT and Android Auto (music) going through Bangkok can be a bit more tolerable. In traffic it's a bit heavy and stop and go can result in some heat off the engine that fortunately dissipates with a little speed. Outside Bangkok and traveling throughout Thailand it's a complete delight. I now live outside the city in a rural area and when travels require going through Bangkok I try to organize a time very early in the morning to avoid the worst of the traffic and when the air is cooler. 😊 The panniers are a nice trim profile and although they are sized not to fit a helmet they are great for reasonable filtering if needed when touring. Been all over Thailand and with 28,000 km on the clock I'm still very happy. I think this bike might be a long term "keeper" as it's pretty hard to find fault. A competent overall platform. 👍😎
Which bike would you choose (regardless of price) - Honda NT1100 or new Suzuki V- Strom 1050 (with TFT and quickshifter) ? Great reviews - subscribed to your channel
Hey, my bike..i have a gray one. After 1 year I can only say and 7000 km I love my NT. One problem only, the TFT is broken, touchscreen doesnt work anymore. I get a new one. I have a DCT..so easy
I hate that rear seat and rack being 5 to 6 inches too high. Put a fully adjustable shock on the rear and drop the seat height. With the suspension, put a 130 lb. Passenger and the rear would drop six inches, which is ridicules. Other than the rear seat area I like the styling.
Oh, no question, the NT is smoother more for touring. The 9GT is more "sporty", therefore stiffer. That was one thing that bothered me about the 9GT, just 2 settings and no customization, it's does not have a "road" mode, it's more like: "sport" and "track-day sport". take care, Scott
Lots of reasons not too and very few for. On new bikes like this, they are just estimates, no real services performed as of the filming of this video. Now on my long term bikes I do have service costs in the videos.
Hey Patrick, vertelden ze mij ook bij aankoop...heb de mijne nu 1 maand met DCT en erg tevreden, na jaren met de Pan ST1100 een ware verfrissing om te rijden!
@@yewtreeknives5834 Fijn om te horen dat de machine je zo goed bevalt. Momenteel met Deauville NT700 met 126.000Km op de teller en doet het nog goed. Moest ik nu veranderen zou het NT1100 zijn, DCT is nog niet 100% zeker. In D schakelt hij veel te snel voor mij… Maar NT1100 een van de beste machines die je nu kan kopen volgens mij en 5 jaar Honda garantie…
@@patrickmeylemans9627 Ik had ook twijfels, DCT of Quickshifter...? Waar we allemaal geen rekening mee houden is dat de motor van de Africa Twin een traagloper is, vol koppel bij lage toeren, terwijl we altijd hebben gereden met hoogtoerige motoren. De D modus is eigenlijk voornamelijk voor autostrade en eco rijden, het vlug schakelen schrikt af omdat onze motoren dan dreigden af te slaan, ik deed al eens de test in volle stad, lage snelheid in D en motor gaf geen krimp, is gewoon een andere manier van rijden. Ik rij vooral in S1 en denk bij bergritten in S2. Goe Masjien jong 😄 PS het comfort zadel is een absolute aanrader 👍
@@yewtreeknives5834 Wel goed om horen, ik hou van traag lopers… Met de huidige machine (Deauville) rij ik ook in de eerste helft van het toerental. Mag 8500tr/min doen en kom zeer zelden boven de 5000tr/min. Bij normaal rijden optrekken tot 4000tr/min en op opritten autostrades tot 5000tr/min en als het echt moet 6000tr/min Bij 120km/h doet hij 5000tr/min wat doet de NT1100? Krijg meer en meer zin in de NT1100 maar de Deauville doet het voorlopig nog zeer goed (+ 125.000 Km op de teller)
@@patrickmeylemans9627 De NT doet rond de 3500tr /120km. Heeft VEEL koppel op laag toerental en dat schtikt veel motards af die hoogtoerige motoren gewoon zijn. De motor sloeg nog nooit af op lage snelheid of stokte nog niet...Ik raad zeker het comfortzadel aan, zit erg lekker. De pan en de Deauville waren legendes en duurzaam, ik denk dat op termijn de NT me evenveel zal plezieren...plakt ook echt in de bochten 😄
The disadvantage of Honda NT1100 is a very low maximum payload - only 192 kg. Regardless - you cannot load more than 22 kg of luggage in total. A little too small for a long trip for two
Nice review. But I don't get all the down grading from all manufacturers. You mentioned Goldwing somewhere, but that Thing now looks like a bad Starwars design. And the gap between the 1800 and (not even) 1100cc is to big. I mean even the old Pan European was a 1300cc. Yamaha has the same problem. Top of the line touring bike from Yam is now a Tracer 900. That is nowhere near the beautiful FJR. And frankly, how nice this NT1100 may be, it is too nowhere near a Pan or Silver wing or what ever. All that said, I like your style of review 👍😃
Yea, agreed 👍 they need a 1300 ish bike to fill the gap. But all they look at is the business case study & just move on, regardless of what the consumer wants 😒
I’ll never get why one would want a DCT on a motorcycle…?! It’s an active hobby, it’s about involvement, about feeling reward when you master the ride ever so slightly more and more perfect… in a car commuter, yes, but in a weekend motorcycle, no!
Just had a test ride yesterday on the DCT model. First time i rode a DCT, had to get used to it at first, did not like the D stetting, shifts up to fast and not down fast enough . But than i tried Sport 1 and 2. Those are good, sometimes flip one gear down if you want to but workes great. Also a handy cruise control. When you get used to it, it offers a very relaxed ride. But if you want it is fast enough. Good screen and i'm 1,69 meters tall (about 5ft6 / 7) and had no problem with the hight of the bike , which is not always the case. All in all a very good bike and i can understand that people like the DCT. I heard that in the Netherlands more than 50% buys it with DCT. And yes it looks better in life than on screen.
Greetings from Australia. I have just purchased at Honda NT1100 DCT. I am plus 70 years and absolutely loving the DCT and the bike in general. So smooth to ride on our roads. Looking forward to the hopefully next few years of riding. Your review of the bike was spot on. Keep,up the good work. Cheers
Nice to see new bikes revived by NTP!!
Keep up the good job!!
42.000 km on my 2017 AT DCT and loving it every km. On road only. If there will be a change, the NT will be the one. For sure.
Been riding for years (since 16 yrs old) now at 60 years old can not see using DCT except for maybe the big heavy Gold Wing.
I have an Africa Twin AS in manual and like the control. So I an wondering about wrong gears at the wrong time _even just a sight mistake with DCT._
Anyway, if you like DCT, *you* like it.
I got to test ride one of these last year. It was my first time on any DCT bike and I got used to it really quickly. It was a really nice ride. Did find the throttle a bit snatch at low speeds. Im 5ft6 and 29" legs and its was very manageable. The NT1100 was quite an intimidating when I first saw it but that quickly disappeared. I did find I was hitting the menu buttons instead of the indicators, but I think that is just a muscle memory thing. If I hadnt gone for something from the Italian lakes, the NT1100 would be my second equal choice with the BMW R1250RS.
Ive seen a few NT1100 in UK and they all seem to be DCT
Thank you for letting me know about DCT in the Uk!!!
DCT is one to go with! Thanks for the review!
My last three Hondas had the DCT and I loved it. I am currently riding a 2014 CB1100 and it only comes with the standard manual transmission.
The Power Of Dreams ❤
I like the bike but think as a touring bike Honda should have fitted the electronic suspension from the Africa Twin, or at least offered it as an option.
Agreed! 100%!
Give them a couple of years till the first flush of NT owners are ready to change bikes and hey presto a new pro model will be released.
Another great review - you are on of the best at it in the motorcycle game.
Thank you Scott, coming from you that means a lot!
take care,
Scott
Asked my dealer a few years back about dct goldwing. He said 3 to 1 sold are dct. I have a dct goldwing and love it.
Thank you for the feed back!
Finallyyyy.. Was expecting this one for a year :)
The Goldwing and African Twin had a love child and brought this into the Honda family 😮
I always rode my Africa Twin in manual mode. Its basically ridden as a bike with a quick shifter. You simply chose the gear you want with the up and down paddle shifters. Everyone seems to be missing out by not using this feature.
...yes, people often overlook this option. I had NC750X with DCT, and after just few days of owning it, I switched to manual mode and never came back to automatic. You are in control (within the boundreys of revs) and shifts are always seamless. Now I have BMW F 750 GS and have to struggle for "perfect shifting", without clunking and jerking (owning a bike just few weeks and it is going better every day, but still not there quite yet). So, DCT defenetly have some advantages. Only downside for someone may be low speed manuvering.
If be interested in a dadbike with Honda reliability that's not $20k if they ever brought this to the US.
First time bike owner here… (2022 Honda Rebel 1100 DCT). DCT allowed me to get into motorcycles (at 45yo) with absolutely no problems. Highly recommended. You really can’t lose with this 1100 DCT lineup from Honda.
"can't lose with DCT"?
Money is "nothing"?
You always do a great review. Add shaft drive and bring this bad boy to the US.
I"m a ST 1300. Wish Honda would put electric adjustable screen on more of their bikes. Super feature
Silly thing is they have a power screen on the much cheaper Forza 350 scooter so just left off here for to squeak into a price point. I am sure it will come late in the Pro version along with the electronic suspension of the AT.
I just want a 19" front wheel on my AT, I had the DCT AT in 2017, never bonded, now back on manual. For this bike, I'd choose the DCT.
As a fellow rider and honda fan from india, its so sad and frustrating that Honda india do not offer many of their products to us. They have a very limited inventory, even worse is their dealer network. As always, enjoyed the video. I really hope honda brings this bike to india. :)
Happy riding
Great job 👍🏻
I love the bike but myself I really hate the DTC. I hate the shaking of the engine. Even with sport after time when you drive little bit slower hanging behind the car is gone up to gear and shake.
Well, I bought my Africa tween 2016 with 3600 km😊 I hope I will be satisfied
My body is ready for an old man bike but not my spirit. I suspect that all changes inside the first 10 minutes of riding it. I love the exhaust note of the Africa Twin and this bike sounds just as good.
"Yes, your journey over to the dark side is almost complete, then I will call you master" 🤣🤣
@@NothingToProve a pair of karoo 3s and a tour of the Pyrenees on this thing would certainly draw some lookers!
DCT vs manual in The Netherlands.
Recently I heard a Dutch motorcycle journalist say it’s 90/10.
(90% DCT)
I’m not entirely sure if that’s true but I’m not surprised about that number.
Could very well be the case.
WOW! That's a lot. Thanks for the feedback.
Scott
It really is a great bike! Great Review!
Thank you for that wonderful video 😊
A friend of mine who’s working for Honda convinced me to try this bike. I also tried a 1290 GT, which is awesome, but I ended up with a 1250 RS 😉. Love KTM but coming from a Superduke I wanted to try something else. Just got the Triple Black and so far I’m happy ✌️
Yea, KTM is all about performance and BMW is all about comfort. Now that I'm getting older, I'm leaning more towards comfort 😁
@@NothingToProve ahah, I ride a lot (> 20000 km per year) and you nailed it: loved the Superduke but aged 54 I needed something more confortable ✌
Nice review, thanks.
In many ways the NT is the modern equivalent of my VFR1200X DCT Crosstourer, which also has D, S1, S2 and S3 modes. Its interesting that, just like with the modern NT, in D mode my Crosstourer goes up the gears very quickly and is in top gear at quite low speeds. For that reason I usually ride around in S1, which gives a much better response. I believe all the S modes do is to change where the gears shift, rather than altering engine performance.
Love your down-to-earth reviews. The NC 750 DCT had some issues with a buzz from the motor at 3000/4000 revs and I fear this could happend to this bike too.
How would this compare with the Versys 1000?
A little later to this discussion but thought I would add my thoughts. Have watch this and other reviews on this bike I had a test ride of the DCT and really enjoyed the bike and gearbox combination. I also rode with the screen at position 4 from the bottom and also found it wind free at 70mph. I didn’t like D mode, it just seems to get into the highest gear as soon as possible and is probably just a mode to meet emissions standard, once I switched to S1 it was much better. I have since ordered the DCT and my dealer said over 80% are DCT.
Just can't believe the bike comes with a centerstand. That's a first for Honda right there!
Hondas always came with centre stands, until recent times when they build them in 3rd world countries.
@@roadwarrior8560 my 1995 and 1996 transalps made in Japan never came with center stands
@@MrDEANOSCOOLVIDS On trail bikes center stands can cause ground clearance problems, so only trail bikes designed 100% for road use tend to have them
You clearly haven't seen many Honda bikes
Stop talking bullshit . If they where that worried about ground clearance the frame wouldn't have the holes for the center stand and the engine cover wouldn't made made of shitty plastic.
Rumor is for those who go DCT truly a life changing experience for what remains still just two wheels with one drive wheel so great to hear your input. I'm sure in future iterations Honda will figure out how to start saving on the weight, improve both efficiency and drivability even more...entire *"NC"* offering by Honda has both reinvented Honda in all of the right ways but I think just an opinion of course saved "traditional" motorcycling which is only now #interestingly coming under pressure from the likes of Zero Motorcycles and LiveWire #former_Harley
Hopefully the rest of the Industry takes note as once motorcycling becomes two wheel powered drive well, let's just say huge fan of the Yamaha GTS writing this. Great production value here! Love the camera and sound work!
Excellent review as always. How do you compare this with the MG V100. Which one would you pick? Cheers
Would love to have one with the 6sp manual but they don't sell the NT1100 here in the US.
Question...would you be able to include a potential passenger's review for applicable bikes your review? Just thought it might add more insight to what each bike offers. Hardly anyone gives much more than a passing glance on the passenger pillion. I'm curious now more than ever as I have my partner to consider and want to include her on this expensive hobby or ours.
That said, yours is one of my favorite channels and I really appreciate the down to earth character your bring to your videos and review. Thank you!
That is very difficult to do, my wife works full time and I only do this part time, so getting a bike and getting her at the same time is very very difficult, it's only happened twice in 4 years of running this channel. I'd love to do it and I've actually discussed with her that if I can get a bike for a specific weekend we'd do a 2up video, but again getting a bike at the same time that our weekend is free...hmm...needless to say it's a dilemma. I'm going to try to do some this year but we'll see how far I get...sigh.
take care,
Scott
@@NothingToProve Thank you for your response. Cheers!
Hello Mr NTP. Like your table comparisons. Could you include mpg UK?
Here in Portugal most of NT1100 buyers prefer DCT.Maybe 80% or something close to it.But I do prefer Manual transmission always! Tks for the video.
My wife and I are going to Switzerland for 6 weeks and renting the NT1100 but they do rent a manual transmission. Here in the US I have a AT manual, CB500X manual. I had purchased a 2021 but had 1200 miles. I was at a store and Harley riders totally destroyed it. Police here are being defended so the investigation fell flat. My insurance paid for it. Looking at relocating out of country. My wide is Filipina so may go there. Maybe convince to live Switzerland 6 months and 6 months in the Philippines. Enjoyed your review. The NT1100 is just not available here as from dealers there is not a market for it.
If I sell my R12GSA, I think I’d like one. How do you capture such great audio? Great review!
Thank you!
Mic is important and the audio recording device is also important. If you buy cheap you get cheap sound 🤷♂️
take care,
Scott
Great review thanks! I like this bike but Honda USA can't seem to make up their mind on releasing it in the USA. Will ether stick with my V Strom 650XT, which is an excellent bike, or move on the the Moto Guzzi V100.
Nice review. I'm curious you being the owner of an RT a total cost of ownership comparison maintaining both bikes.
Wish this was available in Canada
hello from France, i try this bike in DCT and i buy it ! i hope receive the bike for june. mode D is bad but sport 1 and 2 are so good.
I have a funny feeling that we may never see this bike in the U.S. Honda’s market share in the U.S. Adventure touring segment is basically limited to the CB 500X. The Africa Twin was supposed to fill the gap but that bike has a much more off-road bias with its long travel suspension. The NC 750X is more of a commuter bike and isn’t great cruising at 75 mph. The VFR 1100X was a huge failure here and I don’t think the dealers want to go through that again. I will be interested if it makes it here but I am not getting my hopes up.
great review as usual
Designing a beautiful exhaust is still a problem for most bike makers.
True!!!
Wish this was available in the USA
Another great video, thanks.
Awesome review like always , didn't know Nissan make motorcycle breaks :)
You don't, maybe you should look them up! LOL! 🤣🤣🤣
Nissin Brakes!
Final ratio appears to be the same as the AT which makes for high reves at highway speeds. Nice would be an overdrive 6th.
one major competitor of this, i think its the vstrom 1050.i wish i could test drive them back to back.what do you think Scott?Is the honda much superior?or not?
Yea, you could compare it to the 1050 but and this is a big but, they are probably about 3-4k difference in price, depending on where you live. Now that's a lot of money and if you don't have the extra cash for the Honda, then the vstrom is the way to go!
@@NothingToProve its 1200 euros more(for the not dct).but it has luggage.i like the looks of the vstrom more.but i prefer the africa engine.the difference in money is not much.i dont know...which do you think is better?
@@thodoris3790have the same question and dillema - Is the Honda better than new V-Strom 1050
Thanks, great review! IMO, this is one "very nice" do-it-all street/ touring motorcycle. "For me" I'd have to think twice about spending the extra money to get the RT (Yes the RT is nicer but thousands nicer? what % increase nicer? In the end, it just comes down to personal wants/ needs/ likes.
Exactly, "beauty is in the eye of the beholder". This is why when I get asked "what bike should I choose" I always ask back, "well, that depends on what you want?" 😁👍
@@NothingToProve Thanks BTW, I LOVE your RT and understand why you have it (you are a man of good taste!!)
With the further refinement of up and down quick shifters I struggle to see any real advantage of a DCT gearbox. Never ridden a DCT box though so I'll reserve judgement
Well it’s used in F1 and in a number of super cars such as Ferrari. Point is that the next gear is preselected so changes are quicker than even a quick shifter on a standard box.
@Jim Porter Aye im well aware of its current uses and drive an Audi A4 with the DSG box, but in a touring bike who really needs milli second gear changes and if my car is anything to go by its lurches at slow speeds which is acceptable in a car but not for me on a bike
Great bikes … have you any more rt content coming up Scott?
Yes, the "1 Year Later" video will be coming out soon, I just got the bike back from it's 1st major service (I was waiting for that) so I could include actual costs/repairs/updates...etc.
Hopefully 2nd week of May!
take care,
Scott
@@NothingToProve thanks for the reply Scott , I get mine in a few weeks, same colour! ride safe man thanks for the channel
I've got a black DCT. Love it but yeah the colour / styling is a bit bland. The speedo btw reads 9 or 10% too slow so to do the real ton (100 mph) you need to be going about an indicated 175 km/h.
The mirrors on the autobahn were crystal clear. Please record vehicles in the mirrors on the autobahn in all videos. It very important to have clear visibility in our mirrors.
Thanks for a great review. Waiting - with less and less patience - for this to come to the US. What's up, Honda?! A pass on the DCT, but only with the quick shifter.
Yea, I'd pass on the DCT too and take the quick shifter but why it's not in the states yet is beyond me, Honda's missing out on some serious sales.
@@NothingToProve I really, really wanted to buy one too, but no. Not for USA. WTF Honda? Ordered a competitors bike two weeks ago.
I would go for manual transmission and just add a quick shifter
So I'm now looking at this bike as I test rode a new Stelveo at the weekend, not for me I'm afraid but the NT1100 looks like a possible option for me, I'm a lazy rider 😂 Great review thank youv👍
If it had a shaft drive it would have been my next bike .
I am really hesitating buying between The Honda NT1100 DCT vs the BMW R1250RT. I really love the DCT feature as really allow you enjoy the trip. But on the other hand I dislike a bit the Chain transmission. What I like from the BMW R1250 RT is the Shat transmission, the design and the Dynamic suspension adjustment but Truth to be said I am a very quite non adventurer driver. Also I have seen quite a few video people compleaining about the reliabillity and expensive maintenace of the BMw one. So here I am still pulling my hair off and not that I have much left.
What did you bought? 😁
Seems like a solid Bike. Sadly not available in my neck of the woods. Don't know about the DCT tranny though.
Scott, this is an awesome review on a super bike!I love this NT by Honda!Great price also, and the design rocks. Your opinion about the peripheral plastics quality?
No problem there, typical Honda quality. 👍
Missed one of the best sports touring bikes out there,
The cost of buying new is much cheaper than most, it's the Kawasaki SX 1000 or Ninja has its now called,
Another good review. The only disappointment with this bike is the bland styling. Come on Honda - you can do better! 👍
Portugal - DCT is very popular here.
750X DCT is most used, because most people can't afford and don't really need an NT.
If ever upgrading to a bigger engine - it would bt NT DCT or VFR1200 DCT.
Or maybe something with the new E-clutch that's coming out right now.
Hi Scott, 2 questions: You say it's a bit snatchy in town, but where you in Tour all the time (with 1 blue "P")? One "P" should be the smoothest setting.
And what are the biggest differences between your R1250RT and the NT1100 (besides price and power)?
Cheers from The Netherlands
Yea, I try everything, just don't have time to show me changing all the settings and trying them out in a video cause then the video would be way toooooooo long and no one would watch it...as it is this video was almost 16 minutes long, which is longer than my usual goal of 12 minutes.
Biggest difference...hmm...RT is heavier & has a more solid, stable feel, much better suspension & a lot better torque/pull from low RPM, better wind protection and electric adjustable windscreen (which I do adjust all the time while riding, I have 2 settings that I like and each is dependent upon my speed), this to adjust the screen you have to stop and walk around to the front of the bike and manually move it up or down (most screens you can adjust while riding). But this has Apple Carplay & Android Auto, which I would use if I had it on my RT.
Bottom line, I'll keep my RT, I wouldn't trade for this even if they gave me more than it was worth.
take care,
Scott
@@NothingToProve 2 👍up for your answer.
@@NothingToProve Regarding RT - NT comparison. I owned an RT, put 160 000 kilometers on it; aside from relatively expensive maintenance, the first half of that was trouble free, the last half was “normal” maintenance costs + plenty of small problems that were very expensive to remedy. At 70 years old I’m almost ready to trade my AT DCT and/or VFR to get a more “pipe ‘n slippers” bike like the NT. I’m glad Honda has postponed selling it in North America hopefully, if it arrives here, it will be a better appointed second generation model. Thanks for the review, my mouth isn’t watering, but it’s sure making me think . . .
@@NothingToProve 👍
Wow is nice and is very beautiful 👌
So Now I know why you can't get an Africa Twin in the USA now because they are using All the parts for this bike most likely.
Yep, probably that is exactly why! 🤦♂️
Hi. You had BMW F900XR. Me too. What would you say if I sell my bike and go for NT1100 (No DCT)? Would that make any difference? In a sense of comfort, city ride, fuel economy, and safety. Thank you.
fuel eco, no. City ride, yes better. Safety, same. Comfort yes a bit more wind protection.
take care,
Scott
Finaly...great review as usual.Well,in Dusseldorf they sell about 60 percents DCT compare to manual but still I would go for manual.Also,the salesman told me they cannot get enough of those since so many guys would like to have it.Only the price puts me off bying it...maybe in one or two years the used one.The best regards.....P.S.Do you think it's insane this days to by an 2012 NT 700?
Im letzten Satz meinst du "buy", anstatt "by"?
Na, it's not insane, the old Deauville is still a great bike and will run for a long time, sure it's 10 years old but if you take care of it, it will take care of you. 👍👍 I like older bikes, they still have some soul left, this NT1100 is missing that "soul".
@@enricohagn Enrico,ich meinte buy...mein Fehler
@@NothingToProve Scott,thank you very much for your time and answer.The best regards...Neven from Croatia
@@neven11000 Kein Problem, bro 🤝
Sowas kann leicht passieren mit diesen "mitdenkenden" Keyboards 😒
Please Honda bring this to the USA
You convert your speed to MPH. Could you also say or show the Inches and Gallons when you state the dimensions and capacities? Maybe if you mentioned online, and ask Honda why they don't import the NT1100 into the USA? Why doesn't Honda put a reverse gear on the NT1100 and the African Twin?
I have DCT on my Honda integra 750 motorscooter, and I never want to switch again to manual gears. DCT feels like driving a 50’s Cadillac 😅.
Ive followed you for some time now...and ive scanned thru all your videos.....i dont see where youve ridden the goldwing non-tour dct. Did i miss something???? I want to see you on that bike and hear your thoughts!!😊😊😊😊
Thank you! Yes, that is a bike I need to do a review of, maybe this year 😁
But honestly, comparing to your RT, how would you rate the excitement on both?
Well, neither bike is exciting, they are both engineered to do a specific task and they both do it very well, hence kind of boring. If you want excitement or soul get the Mandello V100, now that is a sexy bike and it has a shaft drive and electronic suspension option.
take care,
Scott
In Thailand the NT1100 is only available in DCT. 👍 Love mine. Replaced my BMW F900XR and I think the NT1100 is substantially better.
Thank you for the feedback!
I wonder how it works in Bangkok traffic jam ... 🤷♂
@@edlorenser498Bangkok traffic can be uncomfortable and no fun indeed! 😬However with DCT and Android Auto (music) going through Bangkok can be a bit more tolerable. In traffic it's a bit heavy and stop and go can result in some heat off the engine that fortunately dissipates with a little speed. Outside Bangkok and traveling throughout Thailand it's a complete delight. I now live outside the city in a rural area and when travels require going through Bangkok I try to organize a time very early in the morning to avoid the worst of the traffic and when the air is cooler. 😊 The panniers are a nice trim profile and although they are sized not to fit a helmet they are great for reasonable filtering if needed when touring. Been all over Thailand and with 28,000 km on the clock I'm still very happy. I think this bike might be a long term "keeper" as it's pretty hard to find fault. A competent overall platform. 👍😎
i think the nc750x dct is better overall only because of the frunk.
nt1100 looks cool though.
too bad its not in the US yet.
Which bike would you choose (regardless of price) - Honda NT1100 or new Suzuki V- Strom 1050 (with TFT and quickshifter) ? Great reviews - subscribed to your channel
Thank you, I'd take the NT without hesitation 👍😊
@@NothingToProve Thank Your for help :)
the new 2023 NC750X is only DCT in the states, so that's an indication right there.
Hey, my bike..i have a gray one. After 1 year I can only say and 7000 km I love my NT. One problem only, the TFT is broken, touchscreen doesnt work anymore. I get a new one. I have a DCT..so easy
Thank you for your ownership feedback, always nice to hear from actual owner experience with a bike!
Scott
I hate that rear seat and rack being 5 to 6 inches too high. Put a fully adjustable shock on the rear and drop the seat height. With the suspension, put a 130 lb. Passenger and the rear would drop six inches, which is ridicules. Other than the rear seat area I like the styling.
The Honda dealer in my area doesn’t sell any bikes over 500 cc except goldwign.. So I would have to drive 40 miles to see nt1100.
Hi Scott, just curious about the comfort. The bunny road you usually ride - which one performs better in terms of suspension: 9GT or NT?
Oh, no question, the NT is smoother more for touring. The 9GT is more "sporty", therefore stiffer. That was one thing that bothered me about the 9GT, just 2 settings and no customization, it's does not have a "road" mode, it's more like: "sport" and "track-day sport".
take care,
Scott
@@NothingToProve Thank you!
Why doesn't any reviewer talk about or mention service costs? They are a big decision when buying a bike, new or old. Thanks
Lots of reasons not too and very few for.
On new bikes like this, they are just estimates, no real services performed as of the filming of this video. Now on my long term bikes I do have service costs in the videos.
Interesting bike, one thing would drive me mad though. The two displays, showing identical info !! Why Honda, why ?
The TFT turns into a map when navigating
@@NothingToProve Ok that`s fair but other bikes still make do with just one display.
I don't think the sell that in the USA
Dct anytime. Coz the gear box, clutch plate, engine will be in a very excellent condition. No burnt clutch plates etc.
If Honda sold this in North America I would buy one tomorrow.
In Belgium differs shops saying more DCT sold than manual’s. But no %’s….
Hey Patrick, vertelden ze mij ook bij aankoop...heb de mijne nu 1 maand met DCT en erg tevreden, na jaren met de Pan ST1100 een ware verfrissing om te rijden!
@@yewtreeknives5834 Fijn om te horen dat de machine je zo goed bevalt. Momenteel met Deauville NT700 met 126.000Km op de teller en doet het nog goed. Moest ik nu veranderen zou het NT1100 zijn, DCT is nog niet 100% zeker. In D schakelt hij veel te snel voor mij… Maar NT1100 een van de beste machines die je nu kan kopen volgens mij en 5 jaar Honda garantie…
@@patrickmeylemans9627 Ik had ook twijfels, DCT of Quickshifter...? Waar we allemaal geen rekening mee houden is dat de motor van de Africa Twin een traagloper is, vol koppel bij lage toeren, terwijl we altijd hebben gereden met hoogtoerige motoren. De D modus is eigenlijk voornamelijk voor autostrade en eco rijden, het vlug schakelen schrikt af omdat onze motoren dan dreigden af te slaan, ik deed al eens de test in volle stad, lage snelheid in D en motor gaf geen krimp, is gewoon een andere manier van rijden. Ik rij vooral in S1 en denk bij bergritten in S2. Goe Masjien jong 😄 PS het comfort zadel is een absolute aanrader 👍
@@yewtreeknives5834 Wel goed om horen, ik hou van traag lopers… Met de huidige machine (Deauville) rij ik ook in de eerste helft van het toerental. Mag 8500tr/min doen en kom zeer zelden boven de 5000tr/min. Bij normaal rijden optrekken tot 4000tr/min en op opritten autostrades tot 5000tr/min en als het echt moet 6000tr/min
Bij 120km/h doet hij 5000tr/min wat doet de NT1100? Krijg meer en meer zin in de NT1100 maar de Deauville doet het voorlopig nog zeer goed (+ 125.000 Km op de teller)
@@patrickmeylemans9627 De NT doet rond de 3500tr /120km. Heeft VEEL koppel op laag toerental en dat schtikt veel motards af die hoogtoerige motoren gewoon zijn. De motor sloeg nog nooit af op lage snelheid of stokte nog niet...Ik raad zeker het comfortzadel aan, zit erg lekker. De pan en de Deauville waren legendes en duurzaam, ik denk dat op termijn de NT me evenveel zal plezieren...plakt ook echt in de bochten 😄
Which is better. Honda NT or the BMW R 1250 RS?
I think I'd take the NT over the RS.
I would have preferred a 900cc version of the NC750X, with about 75bhp.
Why the need to make these sport/tourer so tall in the saddle?. Not all of us are over 5.10ft with 32" legs
They do offer a low seat option 😊👍
Be nice if it came to America.
If it had a shaft drive, it would get 3 thunbs😂
The disadvantage of Honda NT1100 is a very low maximum payload - only 192 kg. Regardless - you cannot load more than 22 kg of luggage in total. A little too small for a long trip for two
In the States that minimal payload makes it a "bike for singles" 😂
Nice review. But I don't get all the down grading from all manufacturers. You mentioned Goldwing somewhere, but that Thing now looks like a bad Starwars design. And the gap between the 1800 and (not even) 1100cc is to big. I mean even the old Pan European was a 1300cc. Yamaha has the same problem. Top of the line touring bike from Yam is now a Tracer 900. That is nowhere near the beautiful FJR. And frankly, how nice this NT1100 may be, it is too nowhere near a Pan or Silver wing or what ever. All that said, I like your style of review 👍😃
Yea, agreed 👍 they need a 1300 ish bike to fill the gap. But all they look at is the business case study & just move on, regardless of what the consumer wants 😒
As an avid scooter enthusiast, I could go for that. But I'll stick to 250cc scoots.
I don’t see this bike on Honda’s website
Probably not available in your country yet. 😢
I’ll never get why one would want a DCT on a motorcycle…?! It’s an active hobby, it’s about involvement, about feeling reward when you master the ride ever so slightly more and more perfect… in a car commuter, yes, but in a weekend motorcycle, no!
Well, I personally know 2 guys that have partial use of left hand and or left foot. Now they can ride. BTW, they ride fast! Nuff said.
Same way u go automatic on a car