Just did my first infusion today. Having experience with psycadelics I went in thinking I was going to journey into my mind and see what I’m doing wrong and get some positive insight into my behavior. That’s not what I experienced really. It’s not really like that. I did get some mild insight but the infusion experience itself isn’t really the therapy. The best part about it is what comes after. The apprehension to do simple tasks is lifted. For me also I feel like my reactions to negative thinking is significantly reduced. I feel more balanced and all the problems in my life are still there but they aren’t a big deal anymore. What a relief. I went in to this suicidal and I just don’t feel suicidal anymore which is amazing to me.
@@vickystarr4246 ketamine has a lot of really good synergies with other substances. If your getting the K in powder form, do the K, then do something else..
Before I did my first dose of MDMA, I was literally a different person. In college, I experimented with MDMA, did it 20 times a year or so, for about 4 years, and the first experience made me "better". I remember being very conscious of it. I became better in tune with my feelings for lack of a better term and the effects were permanent. I remember thinking back then that these kinds of "mind expanding" drugs, were gonna one day be used for their therapeutic purposes and as I listen to people talk about their therapeutic ketamine experiences, It makes perfect sense. MDMA is being used exactly like we are using ketamine in Israel and the outcomes are just as good. If I had to explain it Id say, the experience makes your mind use neural pathways that were either never used before, or haven't been used in a long time and then it kinda remembers they exist forever and then it just becomes they way you are. Ive felt similar during the after glow of a magic mushroom experience. Im glad you got some relief.
I had my first treatment today. My experience was nearly identical to how you describe yours. One concern I had was the ketamine bringing up uncomfortable psychological insights that would trigger anxiety (similar to a bad psilocybin trip). Thankfully, it was the opposite-- I felt a quieting of the mind. The nurse did say that I "came to" quicker than most people. I was a little dizzy but able to walk to my ride outside after a couple of minutes.
Hi, Bret.... thank you so much for your incredibly articulate description. I just completed my second ketamine treatment today... with the aim being the alleviation of intense, intractable nerve pain that we have not yet been able to effectively treat any other way. Your description matched my experience so fully that I am a bit stunned. Like you, I experienced the heaviness (especially of my lips, mouth and face).... I also experienced the concerns about "forgetting" how to breath at some point... but managed to reassure myself that I was safely hooked up to monitors and the attending nurse would not permit me to cease breathing without intervening. Your descriptions of both the "mood" and visuals... the "gravitas" and lack of more frivolous, vivid, representational tone and visuals were where I was, too. I really appreciated your thorough and clear description. One difference I noted was that the relatively uncomfortable physical set up I was in left me with a sense of vulnerability (to a fall, actually) that I think might have been soothed substantially with a more "stable feeling" seat. I literally would have liked a seat belt! Or at least, more of an "armchair." Additionally, a more complete verbal preparation would have normalized things a bit, too, and been a bit of a talisman when things felt unnerving . Finally, my "respiratory angst" was ramped up by actual sinus draining that commenced with the medication... which left me unclear whether I was, indeed, choking or only experiencing my mind's overload of the moment. In any case, I left wanting to give the providers some feedback on the experience both so that any future treatment I have to have and also, the treatment of any other patients might be optimally supported psychologically. Again, thank you for taking the time to share your experience. I only wish i had watched prior to the session. All the best to you in your own healing journey!
My daughter had her first infusion 2 days ago. She was seeing birds, cows, stick figures and etc. I had to remind her to not over think anything and to just let what she's feeling happen.
Another quick update; I told y that I had my 1st appointment yesterday. And after I had a mild headache. This morning I woke up with a headache as well but was able to chase it away with some Excedrin. Feeling even better today, things are improving. I'll let you know what happens next week with my other 2 appointments.
I had my 2nd Ketamine therapy today. I have already posted a general comment here. It's absolutely worth the money. I'm no longer feeling suicidal. I'm paying $350 per session in Pasadena CA. Don't know where you are but check a couple of places. Some places wanted much more for each appointment. Wishing you the best for dealing with your personal situation. Brian
Brian Keith Null Hello Brian. Have you finished the treatments? Has it made long term change for you. In a good way, is motivation and happiness actually back? My biggest issue is my C-PTSD and flashback bad memories, don’t know your situation but has it helped you with bad thought patterns? Any answers would be much appreciated I’m desperate after so many years , of anxiety and being unable to do anything. Energy levels , have they improved ? Thank you so much. -Moriarty
I had my 6th infusion today. It really went no different than any of the last ones I updated about. There Wes one BIG difference that I didn't expect and it wasn't until after the session was over and I was booking my 1st appointment for what are now to be once each month. I was told in the very beginning that the 1st 6 sessions were not covered by insurance and I would have to pay out of pocket for those. But after the insurance would then pay all or most of the cost after that. Well, today I was told that all future sessions would be at a cost of $450 per session and the clinic ran "basically" ,(whatever that means) ran on a "cash only basis" so she would "try" to get the insurance to pay. I let her know that this was not acceptable and if they wanted me to return they would have to make some adjustments to fees. I've had no information further, I was told I would be contacted prior to my next appointment. So no matter where you go make sure you have a very detailed conversation about not only current but future fees. Starting on Monday I'll be contacting every Clinic I can find in Los Angeles and find a better fee. Also found out that if you discontinue the program and choose to start again later you get to start and pay for the first 6 sessions all over again But the good news is that until I found that out. All of my suicidal ideation thoughts have been gone. But the program may only be for the super rich. So please research the financial aspects as well. Before you begin the sessions, I thought I had but turns out they are less than forthcoming about their practice. I hope my posts have helped someone. If so please let me know. Thanks, Brian
I'm so sorry you were given the wrong information. I suspected it wouldnt be covered in America-they wouldn't go so quickly from a scorned "club kid" street drug to respected treatment for depression that quickly.. The places I've contacted in the NY area schedule a bunch of rapid treatments-like 2 or 3 a week for two or three weeks then you do maintenace afterwards every month or longer if you don't need it. It doesn't seem like in other parts of the country that there are so many procedures the first weeks. How often did you go? My depression and anxiety has really affected my life since a divorce a few years ago. It's very hard to do anything or feel any excitment or happiness anymore. I want to give the ketamine a shot-it's very expensive but if it works then it will be very worth it to get my life back. I'm trying to find a place near me in NJ. I read you need someone to drive you home so I need to find a place not to far away.
Hopefully you've worked something out and have been able to continue your treatments if you still need them. As I understand it, since Ketamine is not FDA approved for the treatment of depression, it is being used "off-label" for these treatments. This is totally legal, it is an FDA approved drug (anesthetic) and a Dr. can prescribe approved drugs for off-label use. But it is totally up to your insurance company whether or not they will cover a prescription drug being prescribed off-label, and most of them will not. So, it is really up to your insurance company whether or not the drug will be covered, since it is being used off-label. Some companies apparently do cover it. The drug itself is dirt cheap, it's been off-patent for years so anyone can make it (which is why no one will spend the billions it would take for the studies to get it FDA approved for the treatment of depression) but the cost of facilities, staff, liability insurance, etc. etc. is what drives the cost up to typically around $300-$500 per infusion.
I had my 2nd appointment for my Ketamine therapy today. It went very much like the 1st. Very relaxing very comfortable. I didn't get any if the hallucinating effects but I did get very high like he said like being on gas at the dentist office. Nitrous oxide. Again about the 30 min point I again got very talkative for some reason. They had very soft piano music playing in the background. This time I have more money of what I said then I did last time. I was telling her about the time I studied at the conservatory if music at UMKC. I also felt that while talking my toung felt thick. I've done LSD and this is nothing like that at all, damnit! I've been home for a few hours now and feel very good. Again a slight headache. But I'll chase it away with some Excedrin. All for now, I have my next appointment on Wednesday. I'll update again after. Hopefully this will be helpful to someone! Thanks, Brian
I’ve been getting ketamine infusions for just over a year it is finally starting to help with my pain I have chronic regional pain syndrome and thoracic outlet syndrome! I get these infusions every three weeks along with Physical Therapy and taking low-dose naltrexone! It’s helped me with my mind a lot!… But it’s taken so long of upping the dose and because I’ve been in pain for about 17 years now I have a lot of pain to work through and get my body back to normal! But what I was trying to say was, is that I experienced my first K whole experience not this past infusion but the last one because we upped it by 25 mg when I had been on 250 mg for quite a while! I can relate to so much of what you are saying I’m sitting here nodding and agreeing with you!… I’ve been trying to catalog my “adventures“… When I first started looking up videos about it I had not seen yours yet. Everything goes so much better if you have a playlist with songs that you recognize to ground you and also sleeping with a very dark weighted Eye mask. It helps keep things neutral and slows down some of The hallucinations!… I always have the thing with my breath too it’s just a thing that you have to pass over but my husband always reminds me yes you are breathing it’s normal your heart rate is normal having him in the room is so helpful and then the doctor comes in and freeenforces the fact that I am safe I’m OK everything I’m feeling is normal!
Yes once you feel safe…👌🏻 the sinking into the chair! Then you can detach. Oh my infusions go for 3 1/2 to 4 hours I started with a 10 day protocol where they started you at 50 mg and then upped it to 25 mg each time and I got all the way up to 275 mg at the end of the 10 dayperiod And then I was coming back once a week and eventually once every two weeks and now I’m at every three weeks! You are describing this so on point. ...lol unicorn assholes. Every single time I go the experience is very different the images are different! And the music really helps with that it helps everything just go with the flow. Yep Yep… No boundaries that’s exactly how it feels. Yeah my mouth feels frozen, and then I am very aware of whether my mouth is open or closed and I try to keep it close because I keep finding my mouth always hangs open LOL… I always keep a lollipop in my hand because my mouth goes dry and that helps!! I’m curious what is the dosage that you were on? For your first one? They always give me Zofran for nausea and in case I get panicky they alwalways administer versed sp?? I never eat before my infusions ever! I stop eating the night before and I stop drinking depending on what time my appointment is the next day! Because the fluids fill you up and make you have to pee a lot. The mental clarity that I have gotten over the past year has been absolutely amazing it didn’t happen overnight for me but after the first three during my first try at a Proto call I felt amazing clarity and my pain was reduced by a lot but I had initially got sent home after the first three days because my blood pressure went up so high so we just learned that I don’t have any underlying heart problems I just need to take blood pressure medication to hours prior to my infusions! And that works perfectly! I can’t wait to check out your other videos in see how you are faring!
thx God I might be able use medical insurance because I am on my last 5 sessions of TMS & feel better but still exhausted & had 2 drop out of classes 3 days ago from feeling frozen, cannot move, migraines & nausea not as bad (before it was wake till sleep, now a few hrs a day but at least now excedrin helps a little) but the anxiety better but my head still feels like a vacuum is pulling my scalp & forehead up. Sleep is a tiny bit better some days. It’s hard 2 wear my eyeglasses even tho I need them 2 see. My car & room is still messy (not like a tornado but still horrible for a neat, ocd, & clean freak). Hard to focus & get things done at work. Working out is my fave thing in the world & can work out 4 hrs, but I stopped altogether. I just started going back 2 gym but it’s a struggle. Organizing online classes /calendar/?lessons are a disaster along w/my ADHD. I feel like crying but I keep it in as much as I can because I feel like it’s my fault that I went from an A student 2 dropping classes to C’s & F last semester; was close 2 end of my pre-requisites for nursing program & now I feel so lost & ashamed. Not to mention I am peri menopausal which also comes with depression & anxiety. People tell me it’s just a part of life deal with it. But it hurts 2 hear when it was they have no idea how it feels to have no control, brain never stops, & memory is a mess, everything is going down the drain you’ve worked hard for & the MD’s have no idea how to help me. Mostly 2 prescribe drugs on top of drugs which I am sensitive 2 & which makes me feel so crazed plus all the side effects makes me feel so much worse. TMS is covered by my Insurance & I pray that the Ketamine is as well. I want a life that I can get things done, have interests, have drive again so I can help out my family & others when I finish school. I want 2 spend time with family again instead of feeling isolated. I miss cleaning & organizing daily because it relaxes me & then I can get in the mood 2 study. So Ketamine sounds like the best route. Thank you everyone 4 speaking on this subject because I feel so alone in this process.
Thank you Brett I appreciate you being so open with everyone about your experience my son is going to be doing it in a few days and of course my wife and I are a little anxious about it thank you again
CAMERA MAN!! I hope this worked good for your son and that he's doing better. Totally wasn't expecting to see a year old neutral drop comment here lol.
Hi Bret , my infusions were for 7 days and I was pain free for 12 mths . Now use nasal ketamine for pain and ptsd but getting tolerant to it now two years in . I have it at home .its compounded monthly .$160 90mls. In Australia . Wish the local hospital would do in,fusions and for magnesium .
Update on my Ketamine therapy. I've been going once each month now. I'm still having excellent results. I've dropped from 8 pills to 2 I'm on Cymbalta and Lithium for the Bi-Polar Disorder and the Depression Disorder. I'm doing very well on those and the Ketamine has taken away all of the Suicidal Ideation that I had every day. I have also had a discussion with the Dr. about the continued frequency of the sessions. He told me that he had patients that came in every month others that come in every other month and some only every 3 or even 6 months. Depending on your personal situation. So if you're starting you may want to remember to as your Dr. about the frequency you'll require for your own personal situation. Wishing everyone the best! Brian
Thanks for sharing! I just had my first 2 injections yesterday and I agree with what you are saying!! I feel more calm than before but not cured but that would be far fetched to happen after 1st does but anxiety is lower not crying in depression and my ptsd is calmer than it’s been since it materialize in my life! I have no way to describe it but advise is just stay calm and let it go how it does! No fear! Don’t fight it!!! Its short mostly burns off after an hour but you still feel kind of tired rest of the day so be easy on yourself!
I can’t even describe what I saw in my mind. It seemed like a million images, colors, shapes. Sometimes things seemed to have structure and I would fly along. Something’s reminded me of the movie Tron. There was light, and there was dark. I had good and bad feelings. There were times when I thought I was going to be trapped in this place with no body. I questioned whether reality that I knew was real or not. As far as nausea I actually do have a donut before I go. Empty stomach is what made me sick. Yes that did happen to me. After my 2nd or 3rd my suicidal thoughts were absolutely gone. I couldn’t even force myself to think about it. I’ve waited too long without maintenance doses and need to go back again though.
Lesa Pierce , I have tried two so far. I'm going to continue to go. It's hard to describe, so before going in, I purchased a spire stone. It graphs my tense moments through out the day. Before the treatment, which recorded me tense at 2 straight minutes and forward from there, had me tense for about 200 minutes through out the day. The most I've had now is ten minutes, after two treatments. The anxiety is there, but not the chest tightening and accompanying feelings. The depression is there, but not the longevity or weight. So, the mental part is there, but zero physical is being recorded to date. So, now I just have to learn how to live without the physical symptoms. It's pretty unreal when you have to talk your body out of being tense. It's immediately gone. Previous to ketamine, years of therapy and training my brain has worked, but I could never relieve myself of the physical. Which was the worst part for me. The part that drove me to a cocktail to make it stop, or a xanax. Or to a long bath. So, I'd say he'll yes, it works. However, I'm worried about the longevity. It was 3k for this. And an additional $500 per infusion after. At this point, to relieve the physical symptoms, what wouldn't I pay? So, I would recommend getting a spire stone and tracking your own progress. That way, you know exactly what it's doing physically, as your mind may sat you're stressed, but your body is not perceiving it that way.
Lesa Pierce , I just had my 2nd infusion. I'm paying $350 per session not $500. I've already posted 2 general comments here. It's worth the money. I'm not "cured" yet but much better than before. I told feel suicidal. It was a feeling that never went away. Much, much better now. I'll keep updating on this site after each session. Wishing you the best for your personal situation. Brian
I just had a ketamine infusion for a surgery... It was absolutely wonderful and I really wish I could have experienced it a lot more but I got to about 15 seconds into it and went out.... I would really like to get my hands on some of that stuff
I've found promethazine (phenergan; a travel-sickness pill) to be an effective over-the-counter medicine for mitigating the mild nausea caused by ketamine (and all other recreational drugs I've tried). Also eating a small dairy-rich snack like a slice of pizza can help.
Thank you so much for this video!! I've been through countless videos looking for a step by step experience with a ketamine infusion. I'll be subscribing to your channel. :)
Best thing you can do while getting treatment is to let go of the will to control or understand it. Just embrace the moment and enjoy the ride. First treatment today, I'm excited about the future
I have now had 6 treatments and because I am 64 years old with a long history of anti-depressants and depression, it is going to take more treatments to get relief. I did have four better days after my fifth treatment but I didn’t feel anything before that as far as improvement. My insurance company, Premera Blue Cross is covering 80% of the six visits so far but I when I go on Medicare next month it will be a battle. They do not cover it which is odd since it is FDA approved for treatment resistant depression. Since I am going to need more treatments I will be calling them today to find out how to appeal.
I watched this video today. Then I realized it was a few years old. You said at theme that you would do another video after your next infusion. I can’t find that one. Did you ever do addition infusions and do more TH-cam’s about it ? I’m thinking of trying it.
I had two ketamin infusion and helpt me with pain (no pain )helpt me with my depression ,got of opiods and saved my life and Im having one more next week ,it is the best think for the pain it helps a lot and if I didnt have ketamine tritment I woud be ded (depression ,pain ,pain kilers are bed).Yes ther are sam side afeks but thats nomarl ,betar than be ded .Thay put me on 7 days stright on ketamine infusion .
I've been diagnosed with Bi-Polar Manic Depressive Disorder with Suicidal Ideation. I've taken every drug they could throw at me it helped with the depression but the suicidal issues never, never went away. That's why I turned to Ketamine. Today was y 1st I'm not "cured" but I'm already a lot better. I wish you the best of luck and hope everything goes well for you in life. Brian
I had it in the ER for sever pain after nothing help for pain (morphine, fentanyl). They didn’t tell me what it was, just gave it to me. Just an FYI, is scared the living hell out of me! All the equipment on the walls became detached and were floating around the room.my only thoughts for the entire time was, “so this is how I am going to die!” But I didn’t necessarily care because there was nothin I could do about it. In the end it didn’t stop the pain at all and I was so pissed off that they didn’t tell me what was about to happen to me, I just left.
Man, you really have eased my anxiety on my appointment with what they call Spravato (Esketamine) something my Psychiatrist suggest I give a try after many years of trying different meds and only a few working. She thinks its going to be perfect for me. I've also read up on some of the crazy shit you mentioned having read up on before your dosage. I should add this is administered through a nasal spray equal to the equivalent of what I've read is 86 milligrams over a couple doses in a controlled environment. I don't expect to get to the point of a k hole and have witnessed someone in person during what they call a k hole and she looked like she didn't want to move and just sat still on her couch. In other words I don't want to experience a k hole. I have had experience with psychedelics in my early 20's and some mid 20's so I've literally seen some shit good and bad on my adventures. Finally, how are you now? How were your follow up sessions? I looked through your video page and couldn't even find this one somehow.
This video is amazingly in-depth and beautifully articulate. I'm a chronic pain patient who has struggled with TR-depression from age 7 (now 29). I pray I can afford this treatment some day soon, and that they find a way to keep the positive effects from dissapating (I know there's something like that called Ketace used in animals when they stop responding to the ketamine?). Anyway, thank you for this, and hope with all my heart you are still feeling well today ❤
I've tried at least 5 so called anti depressants over the last 15 years after suffering what no one should love through: a 100 plus mph combined speed head on collusion, broken neck, ruptured internal organs, a massive shoulder restraint injury, a collostomy, in other words I died. SERIOUSLY. And each day thereafter I am less and less interested in even getting up, or enjoy anything. My PTSD is killing me, seriously, as surely as I was when I was bleeding to death with seconds left to live in the ER that day. I relieve that day endlessly over and over...I honestly wish I had died that day, I had no idea if I would wake up let alone be able to ever move the day of mind shattering physical force, it was beyond imagination, only to wake up in living hell with chronic pain both physical, financial, and physical, and mental. I watched my twin brother dying in front of me, and it would have been far better if her had stayed that way, he was horribly brain damaged and he never did come back to the person he was before, not he's a very difficult person to even talk to..and his brain was damaged in the amyligdalia, the fight or fight switching center...he's stuck in the fight mode when ever I talk with him. I lost everything that day. Including my trust in the legal system. I had to disbar my attorney, sent him to jail for aggravated theft in the 1st degree, snd sued his State BAR association fo this legal malpractice insurance, I won all three law actions against the three other parties, and am torchered by all of my traumatic injures daily.. to date I have had 28 anesthestic surgical procedures, and I have need for more, four or five more...I'm so burned out from living, I need this treatment badly for both my all of my traumas and the depression , I fear my medicare insurance will say no...I don't hav
Awsome stuff bro hope all stays good can you please make a vid on a full explanation on what half lives are with any meds and how that works i never understood it
Well, we are actually formless. What form does the *self* have? And we are indeed floating in an ocean of universal self, without definite boundaries. I experienced these things once or twice during meditation, and again while singing mantras, without the help of ketamine. I'm not sure why this should help with depression, though; depression (unless it is neurologically based) is the feeling of meaninglessness that goes with lack of accomplishments. No amount of experiencing the universal consciousness, however good that is, is going to make up for lack of accomplishments. These two things are orthogonal.
Thanks for sharing your experience! Do you have more videos describing your subsequent treatments/ I guess I'm wondering how many you've done & at which point this might be an effective strategy for PTSD/depression?
Been on 3200mg of Gabapentin past couple years. Tolerance issues the whole way. Afraid the Ketamine with be same. Went to Psyc Dr. a month ago said it was't approved yet. Going this coming Fri. hoping. Another thing, don't want to get addicted! Seems like it would be that by time you go back for another dose, the previous one would be "waning" (tolerance). In other words, is it better the first week or two vrs the week just before the next dose? I have kind of complicated problems, which is shameful feelings my whole life, so it's not primarily depression. I suppose in any case, this medication could be a mood enhancer. That's what I'm hoping for.
No one is talking about the high price. For just feeling good for days or some weeks. Is not in the hundreds but rather on the thousands. Who can afford it on a regular basis.?
Man, Bret, wow. That was so descriptive and helpful as someone I love is considering Ketamine. Would you please do a follow-up? How were the second and subsequent infusions? Do you feel like it's better for you now, a year or so later?
Friend, your testimony was very sincere. But I would like to know how were the other infusions and if you saw an sustainable progress in your problem with depression. I mean... It's very important for me, friend... I'm from Brazil and we have little information about the months after the 6 infusions. I don't know if people get better and forget give some feedback about their progress... I mean... I'm hopeless, and that treatment seems to offer some relief and hope to continue... I'm 37 and suffer from depression and anxiety since my childhood. I was very strong until start treatment with antidepressants. (Recently I did a pharmacogenetic test, unfortunately my metabolism doesn't work for almost nothing, and I've tried almost everything: SSRI, tricyclics etc.) Please, if you can tell me something, I thank you some much
They are nurses and anesthesiologist though. Besides, psychiatrist aren't going to solve this, chemists are. Psychiatrist don't have a clue, it's researchers in chemistry that will fix depression
My doctors are saying this is an option for me now , either ketamine or medicinal cannibas for my treatment resistant major depressive disorder , anxiety and chronic pain. Thankyou for this video
Hi! I'm currently undergoing ECT treatments for depression and they are slightly working, yet there's still that deep sense of fear, emotional pain and I have absolutely no motivation to even the most simple of tasks. I have been considering ketamine infusion therapy for awhile, and I think I want to try it. I just have a few questions, like does it help give you more motivation? Like, this seems disgusting but I haven't showered in forever because I just don't want to/absolutely *no* motivation. Does it help lift your baseline mood after a period of time? My baseline is consistently rock bottom; heavy depression, that unbeatable urge to cry, etcetera. Does it help bring back ambitions? I dropped out of med school because, after the death of my girlfriend, I just couldn't do it. Do other people see a difference in you? If you could help me with these questions I would really, really appreciate it
I suffer with Chronic pain. Cptsd , anxiety Gad.,, Major Depression. I have been on many meds and therapies for many years.. i would love to be free of Depression. And my pain .
Hey there....well you have it different in the USA......lm in Australia and my Pain Management Dr has offered me the Ketamine Infusion for pain....its $6000 to have it done here & we do it differently cos my Dr told me l will need to go into Hospital for 5 to 7 days and have it all done everyday over that time period & thats all l know so far.......but lm hearing you guys have it done in Outpatients so your home afterwards and you return a week later? It worries me that if it does cost a lot and its a lot of money if it doesnt work! Does it cost you guys?
speaking of speaking during ketamine, it can cause short term memory loss, and slurring. You mentioned slurring, did at any point after or during you feel you could not remember what words you wanted to say or forget where you were?
Nicole Cammack Hi Nicole, I have MDD and my meds are not working. I am going to try Ketamine. Did it work for you? Please answer me if you can. Any input will help and will be appreciated it a lot. Thank you.
Thank you for your video, sir! You've answered a lot of questions. I do have one more question for you. Did your medical insurance pay for your infusion or did you have to pay all or some money out of pocket?
I just had my 1st of 6 today it's $350 each here anyway. That the insurance won't cover. However after the first 6 if you need a once a month Maintenance session some insurance company's will kick in and pay. Just what I was told today.
I'm getting my first treatment next week. I'm just like you I get panic attacks when I lose intune with my breathing. I'm scared. Also do you really need someone to pick you up after the treatment? Or is it just to be safe bs?
As long as it doesn’t make me worse I don’t see why I wouldn’t try it. I have nothing to lose, literally. I’m at the end of the rope with mind. Thanks for video about the treatment, can you tell me differences now years later? Thank you
David Seriff Corona happened and nobody on these fucking ketamine clinics or video diaries ever reply back about the questions I have. It seems almost like a pr push to get people to use the boutique clinics at exorbitant prices for something that has little to no long term positive effect. But yes I still plan to do it in the summer if things open up and I am in contact with a clinic and intend on trying it out.
This was where I was at, and so I started ketamine 9 months ago. It saved my life, I can’t even explain how different my life is now, I am so engaged in life, learning, working, everything. It made me able to live again.
Moriarty Vivaldi yeah, I have suffered with depression for 15 years, been on over 15 antidepressants, 7 anti psychotics, did TMS, ate healthy, exercised, but nothing really helped. I was considering doing ECT therapy or going to a mental health rehab because I was so suicidal I really thought I was going to kill myself, I wasn’t functioning, showering, I could barely work and my work performance was almost non existent, and all I could think about was ending everything. My wife works as a nurse and knew an anesthesiologist through her work who does ketamine infusions and so I talked with him and we decided might as well, considering the alternative, and so I went to do it. I got several infusions the first week, and I started feeling better by the 3rd infusion, and by the time I got my 4th infusion it was like I was an entirely different person. I now get one infusion every 5-6 weeks, it seems like after 5 weeks I start feeling the depression creep back so I get another infusion, but it has been a miracle for me and my family. I wouldn’t recommend this to your average person, but if you’ve tried multiple other options and feel like there’s no hope, then I would say give this a shot, it really saved my life.
Ketamine is a miracle compound and probably my favorite compound at least in the top 2. the first time I did ketamine was in 2009, I was 33 years old. at that point in my life, I have probably tried about 40 or 50 different compounds for drugs. that includes mental health medications and research chemicals. At first, people don't really know what to think when they do it the first 5 - 10 times, but then something happens and instead of feeling kinda weirded out on it you enter the K matrix and it resonates with you. After about 50 times it probably becomes 80% of the people their favorite drug. I CAN'T THINK OF A SAFER MORE BEEFICAL RECREATION/THERAPEUTIC DRUG THAN KETAMINE. IT IS NEUROPROTECTIVE AND IT FORMS NEW CONNECTIONS IN YOUR BRAIN BY INCREASING NEUROPLACISITY AND THE ABILITY TO FORM NEW NEURAL NETWORKS, SO it is ALSO A NEUROTROPIC. I CANT SAY ENOUGH ABOUT KETAMINE. I HAVE BEEN RESEARCHING IT ON AND OFF OVER 10 YEARS AND I PROBABLY HAVE DONE IT WAY OVER 1,000 X/DOSES. AT ONE POINT I DID IT EVERY DAY ALL DAY FOR ABOUT 3 MONTHS, 10 - 15 100 - 150/MG. im INJECTIONS. ITS DOWNSIDES ARE ITS VERY HARD ON YOUR BLADDER IF YOU DO IT LIKE I DID AND IT WILL ROT OUT YOUR SEPTUM FAST IF YOU SNIFF IT ALL THE TIME. PUT A HOLE THROUGH MINE, BUT I ALSO WAS MIXING IT WITH MEPHEDRONE. OTHER THAN THAT THERE IS NO OTHER RISKS TO THE DRUG ITSELF, BUT PEOPLE GET INJURED OFTEN ON IT BECAUSE THEY DO NOT PLAY BY THE RULES AND THINK THEY CAN RIDE A 4 WHEELER OR SOMETHING. ok when I was in rehab back in 2011 I started talking about it with my counselor that it was going to get approved for psychiatric medication, and they told me I was f****** insane. what my primary counselor who was one of the best counselors that I've ever had and I have had a lot, look up some information that I made her look for on the computer back then. she couldn't believe it but she couldn't deny it either. back then people really didn't talk about it scientists are studying it and doing abstracts, and it was being used back then even though it wasn't approved by the FDA for psychiatric disorders and they also used it for regional pain syndrome. they would actually put people in ketamine, 4 days and these people can hardly walk beforehand from the pain they had, but the ketamine is rewired something in their nervous system and they can walk again. it's probably the most power glutamate modulator that we know of. it's being researched right now to treat addiction and looks pretty promising. it affects the NMDA receptors and this is where access glutamate builds up, and that is really bad for us because it causes are dopamine receptors two more or less burn out of fry for lack of a better explanation at this point. Also increased AMPA receptor activation, and has a direct relation between over-excitation of glutamate receptors and many mental health disorders, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, dementia and addiction. taking ketamine if you are someone who abuses stimulants is probably one of the best things that you could ever do for yourself. after a stimulant binge, I would recommend 100 mg ketamine fight intramuscular ROA, for best bioavailability. for stimulant abuser such as myself, this is where a huge part of the problem lies. the drugs in South Stone cause brain damage but extended over-excitation of those receptors being glutamate and how they affect norepinephrine and dopamine receptors causing potentially severe damage. the same damage can even be caused by things such as environmental factors and stress, so if you're prone to things like that TH-camand go on stimulant binges all the time you can expect to end up how I did for a while. I got parkinsonism and still have it to a slight extent. the nervous system does heal itself and that's pretty much what has happened with me because I don't go to the limits that I used to and I take neuroprotective supplements and I want to start using the ketamine as well but it sucks because you have to break the water to get it. it literally is the equivalent to it restarting or rebooting your computer after a long long web session going on corn sites messing it up. everything is just kind of settled again and rewired. I can't say enough about ketamine. I've been telling people the national science of Mental Health are person or spokesperson wrote an article a few years ago called it's the biggest psychiatric medication breakthrough in 50 years. it should be available low-dose pill form or they should have a 4-Hour class on how to do home injections so that it doesn't cost so f****** much. the f****** Pharmaceutical companies even found a way to patent it by changing the atomic position one notch. basically it is an analog and it would be considered a research chemical if it was of no interest to big pharma. GOOD JOB BRET YOUR SUBSCRIBERS REALLY ENJOY YOU AS I DO AS WELL!
Hi Bret, have you had any more sessions? I had my 1st one on Saturday and my 2nd will be on Wednesday. I'm curious to hear others experiences. Hope you are well.
mark d I couldn't really tell if they were working from my first few infusions. I was starting to feel discouraged. My husband said he noticed a lot less crying spells. (And he was right once I thought about it.) I didn't notice a difference myself until after my fifth treatment.
mark d I usually have a constant inner critic, berating me non-stop. It's so very negative. After the 5th infusion the inner critic is quieter, non as chatty. And I am able to recognize it and pivot away from the negative thought (as opposed to automatically feeling bad and ashamed and paralyzed). Also I have not woken up with an automatic sense of dread like before. I used to have to fight a lot of resistance when it came time to do certain tasks- like laundry or getting on the treadmill. Now I just kind of do it; without having to overcome any resistance. I don't know if it sounds like much, but for me it's actually a big relief. I wouldn't say that the infusions have made me feel "happy". But now I can remember what happy has felt like in the past and I do feel like I'm capable of feeling happy in the future. I couldn't do either of those before.
I got my first infusion and on the same day it seemed to help a little with anxiety etc. but the next day I suddenly got extreme dpdr/dissociation(which I already suffer with)and anxiety. It’s now 3 days later and haven’t gotten better.. I don’t know what to do when I’m suffering severely 24:7 and don’t want to take anti-depressants. I hoped this would help but it made it worse and don’t know if I should take round 2??
I knew a dude that tried this stuff recreationally and he went into that K hole thing and squatted in the corner of the room fully clothed and shit his pants. He was telling me about it at work one day 25 years ago, he also said he’s not touching that shit again after that experience. 🤣 obviously that’s not a clinical setting so... I am interested in this as a treatment but have no experience with hallucinating drugs or anything like that so i’m scared out of my mind to even do it. researching by watching videos like yours, Thanks for posting it!
I'm looking into the esketamine nasal spray 'Spravato'. Insurance should pick that up if you qualify. Considering the low cost of pharmaceutical ketamine there should be a black market and online instructions how to safely administer the infusions.
I found your video when searching for Ketamine info. I did 3 treatments 3 years ago and thinking about doing the full protocol this time. It is interesting looking at your list of videos and I have tried most of things you do videos about. I am so sick of this ride! Did you only have one infusion?
How many milligrams did they give you? Sounds like a dose far higher than the standard 30mg... especially over the course of a few hours.... sounds like a dose closer to 100mg... not typical for ketamine infusion
Just did my first infusion today. Having experience with psycadelics I went in thinking I was going to journey into my mind and see what I’m doing wrong and get some positive insight into my behavior. That’s not what I experienced really. It’s not really like that. I did get some mild insight but the infusion experience itself isn’t really the therapy. The best part about it is what comes after. The apprehension to do simple tasks is lifted. For me also I feel like my reactions to negative thinking is significantly reduced. I feel more balanced and all the problems in my life are still there but they aren’t a big deal anymore. What a relief. I went in to this suicidal and I just don’t feel suicidal anymore which is amazing to me.
Ketamine and? Ketamine and? mix it up
@@vickystarr4246 ketamine has a lot of really good synergies with other substances. If your getting the K in powder form, do the K, then do something else..
drugs will do that
@@DoosaOfficial Hes talking about ketamine infusions. In a slow IV. Administered by a physician.
How much time before you need a boost infusion? The antidepressive effect could last forever just by doing the 6 infusion treatment? Thank you :)
Before I did my first dose of MDMA, I was literally a different person.
In college, I experimented with MDMA, did it 20 times a year or so, for about 4 years, and the first experience made me "better".
I remember being very conscious of it.
I became better in tune with my feelings for lack of a better term and the effects were permanent.
I remember thinking back then that these kinds of "mind expanding" drugs, were gonna one day be used for their therapeutic purposes and as I listen to people talk about their therapeutic ketamine experiences, It makes perfect sense.
MDMA is being used exactly like we are using ketamine in Israel and the outcomes are just as good.
If I had to explain it Id say, the experience makes your mind use neural pathways that were either never used before, or haven't been used in a long time and then it kinda remembers they exist forever and then it just becomes they way you are.
Ive felt similar during the after glow of a magic mushroom experience.
Im glad you got some relief.
I had my first treatment today. My experience was nearly identical to how you describe yours. One concern I had was the ketamine bringing up uncomfortable psychological insights that would trigger anxiety (similar to a bad psilocybin trip). Thankfully, it was the opposite-- I felt a quieting of the mind. The nurse did say that I "came to" quicker than most people. I was a little dizzy but able to walk to my ride outside after a couple of minutes.
Hi, Bret.... thank you so much for your incredibly articulate description. I just completed my second ketamine treatment today... with the aim being the alleviation of intense, intractable nerve pain that we have not yet been able to effectively treat any other way. Your description matched my experience so fully that I am a bit stunned. Like you, I experienced the heaviness (especially of my lips, mouth and face).... I also experienced the concerns about "forgetting" how to breath at some point... but managed to reassure myself that I was safely hooked up to monitors and the attending nurse would not permit me to cease breathing without intervening. Your descriptions of both the "mood" and visuals... the "gravitas" and lack of more frivolous, vivid, representational tone and visuals were where I was, too. I really appreciated your thorough and clear description. One difference I noted was that the relatively uncomfortable physical set up I was in left me with a sense of vulnerability (to a fall, actually) that I think might have been soothed substantially with a more "stable feeling" seat. I literally would have liked a seat belt! Or at least, more of an "armchair." Additionally, a more complete verbal preparation would have normalized things a bit, too, and been a bit of a talisman when things felt unnerving . Finally, my "respiratory angst" was ramped up by actual sinus draining that commenced with the medication... which left me unclear whether I was, indeed, choking or only experiencing my mind's overload of the moment. In any case, I left wanting to give the providers some feedback on the experience both so that any future treatment I have to have and also, the treatment of any other patients might be optimally supported psychologically. Again, thank you for taking the time to share your experience. I only wish i had watched prior to the session. All the best to you in your own healing journey!
Sounds scary
Did you ever do any additional infusions? This video is great, but I would love to see what happens next!
Most accurate description of a first ketamine infusion I have found anywhere on the internet.
My daughter had her first infusion 2 days ago. She was seeing birds, cows, stick figures and etc. I had to remind her to not over think anything and to just let what she's feeling happen.
Another quick update; I told y that I had my 1st appointment yesterday. And after I had a mild headache. This morning I woke up with a headache as well but was able to chase it away with some Excedrin. Feeling even better today, things are improving. I'll let you know what happens next week with my other 2 appointments.
Thanks for your report. I'm thinking about doing the Ketamine Treatment. Please make a video reporting your second experience. Good luck!
I had my 2nd Ketamine therapy today. I have already posted a general comment here. It's absolutely worth the money. I'm no longer feeling suicidal. I'm paying $350 per session in Pasadena CA. Don't know where you are but check a couple of places. Some places wanted much more for each appointment.
Wishing you the best for dealing with your personal situation.
Brian
Brian Keith Null Hello Brian. Have you finished the treatments? Has it made long term change for you. In a good way, is motivation and happiness actually back?
My biggest issue is my C-PTSD and flashback bad memories, don’t know your situation but has it helped you with bad thought patterns? Any answers would be much appreciated I’m desperate after so many years , of anxiety and being unable to do anything.
Energy levels , have they improved ?
Thank you so much.
-Moriarty
I had my 6th infusion today. It really went no different than any of the last ones I updated about. There Wes one BIG difference that I didn't expect and it wasn't until after the session was over and I was booking my 1st appointment for what are now to be once each month. I was told in the very beginning that the 1st 6 sessions were not covered by insurance and I would have to pay out of pocket for those. But after the insurance would then pay all or most of the cost after that.
Well, today I was told that all future sessions would be at a cost of $450 per session and the clinic ran "basically" ,(whatever that means) ran on a "cash only basis" so she would "try" to get the insurance to pay. I let her know that this was not acceptable and if they wanted me to return they would have to make some adjustments to fees.
I've had no information further, I was told I would be contacted prior to my next appointment. So no matter where you go make sure you have a very detailed conversation about not only current but future fees.
Starting on Monday I'll be contacting every Clinic I can find in Los Angeles and find a better fee. Also found out that if you discontinue the program and choose to start again later you get to start and pay for the first 6 sessions all over again
But the good news is that until I found that out. All of my suicidal ideation thoughts have been gone. But the program may only be for the super rich.
So please research the financial aspects as well. Before you begin the sessions, I thought I had but turns out they are less than forthcoming about their practice.
I hope my posts have helped someone. If so please let me know.
Thanks, Brian
I'm so sorry you were given the wrong information. I suspected it wouldnt be covered in America-they wouldn't go so quickly from a scorned "club kid" street drug to respected treatment for depression that quickly.. The places I've contacted in the NY area schedule a bunch of rapid treatments-like 2 or 3 a week for two or three weeks then you do maintenace afterwards every month or longer if you don't need it. It doesn't seem like in other parts of the country that there are so many procedures the first weeks. How often did you go? My depression and anxiety has really affected my life since a divorce a few years ago. It's very hard to do anything or feel any excitment or happiness anymore. I want to give the ketamine a shot-it's very expensive but if it works then it will be very worth it to get my life back. I'm trying to find a place near me in NJ. I read you need someone to drive you home so I need to find a place not to far away.
Hopefully you've worked something out and have been able to continue your treatments if you still need them. As I understand it, since Ketamine is not FDA approved for the treatment of depression, it is being used "off-label" for these treatments. This is totally legal, it is an FDA approved drug (anesthetic) and a Dr. can prescribe approved drugs for off-label use. But it is totally up to your insurance company whether or not they will cover a prescription drug being prescribed off-label, and most of them will not.
So, it is really up to your insurance company whether or not the drug will be covered, since it is being used off-label. Some companies apparently do cover it. The drug itself is dirt cheap, it's been off-patent for years so anyone can make it (which is why no one will spend the billions it would take for the studies to get it FDA approved for the treatment of depression) but the cost of facilities, staff, liability insurance, etc. etc. is what drives the cost up to typically around $300-$500 per infusion.
Yes. Its gotten to the point where doctors don't want to deal withe hellish insurance bureaucracy.
Thank you for posting Brian
I had my 2nd appointment for my Ketamine therapy today. It went very much like the 1st. Very relaxing very comfortable. I didn't get any if the hallucinating effects but I did get very high like he said like being on gas at the dentist office. Nitrous oxide. Again about the 30 min point I again got very talkative for some reason. They had very soft piano music playing in the background. This time I have more money of what I said then I did last time. I was telling her about the time I studied at the conservatory if music at UMKC. I also felt that while talking my toung felt thick. I've done LSD and this is nothing like that at all, damnit!
I've been home for a few hours now and feel very good. Again a slight headache. But I'll chase it away with some Excedrin.
All for now, I have my next appointment on Wednesday. I'll update again after.
Hopefully this will be helpful to someone!
Thanks, Brian
Umkc? Are u in kansas city?
Oct 2017 was your first and only 4 mos ago was the 2nd? Why the long gap. At what point did benefits wear off?
Janice Plante maybe he’s a paid promoter by the clinics, that does sound strange .
Brain?
You described this so well. I’m about to do my second infusion tomorrow and I’m shitting bricks
Great video. Very articulate and detailed.
Best description hands down..still not sure how 2nd is gonna be for me but I’ll find out soon
Thank you for your wordsmithing
I’ve been getting ketamine infusions for just over a year it is finally starting to help with my pain I have chronic regional pain syndrome and thoracic outlet syndrome! I get these infusions every three weeks along with Physical Therapy and taking low-dose naltrexone! It’s helped me with my mind a lot!… But it’s taken so long of upping the dose and because I’ve been in pain for about 17 years now I have a lot of pain to work through and get my body back to normal! But what I was trying to say was, is that I experienced my first K whole experience not this past infusion but the last one because we upped it by 25 mg when I had been on 250 mg for quite a while! I can relate to so much of what you are saying I’m sitting here nodding and agreeing with you!… I’ve been trying to catalog my “adventures“… When I first started looking up videos about it I had not seen yours yet. Everything goes so much better if you have a playlist with songs that you recognize to ground you and also sleeping with a very dark weighted Eye mask. It helps keep things neutral and slows down some of The hallucinations!… I always have the thing with my breath too it’s just a thing that you have to pass over but my husband always reminds me yes you are breathing it’s normal your heart rate is normal having him in the room is so helpful and then the doctor comes in and freeenforces the fact that I am safe I’m OK everything I’m feeling is normal!
Yes once you feel safe…👌🏻 the sinking into the chair! Then you can detach. Oh my infusions go for 3 1/2 to 4 hours I started with a 10 day protocol where they started you at 50 mg and then upped it to 25 mg each time and I got all the way up to 275 mg at the end of the 10 dayperiod And then I was coming back once a week and eventually once every two weeks and now I’m at every three weeks! You are describing this so on point. ...lol unicorn assholes. Every single time I go the experience is very different the images are different! And the music really helps with that it helps everything just go with the flow. Yep Yep… No boundaries that’s exactly how it feels. Yeah my mouth feels frozen, and then I am very aware of whether my mouth is open or closed and I try to keep it close because I keep finding my mouth always hangs open LOL… I always keep a lollipop in my hand because my mouth goes dry and that helps!! I’m curious what is the dosage that you were on? For your first one? They always give me Zofran for nausea and in case I get panicky they alwalways administer versed sp?? I never eat before my infusions ever! I stop eating the night before and I stop drinking depending on what time my appointment is the next day! Because the fluids fill you up and make you have to pee a lot. The mental clarity that I have gotten over the past year has been absolutely amazing it didn’t happen overnight for me but after the first three during my first try at a Proto call I felt amazing clarity and my pain was reduced by a lot but I had initially got sent home after the first three days because my blood pressure went up so high so we just learned that I don’t have any underlying heart problems I just need to take blood pressure medication to hours prior to my infusions! And that works perfectly! I can’t wait to check out your other videos in see how you are faring!
You probably thought your breathing was suppressed. Ketamine is a great anesthetic choice because it doesn't suppress respiration
I wish I could win the lottery so I could afford to try new things for my depression.
I get access through my basic health insurance
thx God I might be able use medical insurance because I am on my last 5 sessions of TMS & feel better but still exhausted & had 2 drop out of classes 3 days ago from feeling frozen, cannot move, migraines & nausea not as bad (before it was wake till sleep, now a few hrs a day but at least now excedrin helps a little) but the anxiety better but my head still feels like a vacuum is pulling my scalp & forehead up. Sleep is a tiny bit better some days. It’s hard 2 wear my eyeglasses even tho I need them 2 see. My car & room is still messy (not like a tornado but still horrible for a neat, ocd, & clean freak). Hard to focus & get things done at work. Working out is my fave thing in the world & can work out 4 hrs, but I stopped altogether. I just started going back 2 gym but it’s a struggle. Organizing online classes /calendar/?lessons are a disaster along w/my ADHD. I feel like crying but I keep it in as much as I can because I feel like it’s my fault that I went from an A student 2 dropping classes to C’s & F last semester; was close 2 end of my pre-requisites for nursing program & now I feel so lost & ashamed. Not to mention I am peri menopausal which also comes with depression & anxiety. People tell me it’s just a part of life deal with it. But it hurts 2 hear when it was they have no idea how it feels to have no control, brain never stops, & memory is a mess, everything is going down the drain you’ve worked hard for & the MD’s have no idea how to help me. Mostly 2 prescribe drugs on top of drugs which I am sensitive 2 & which makes me feel so crazed plus all the side effects makes me feel so much worse. TMS is covered by my Insurance & I pray that the Ketamine is as well. I want a life that I can get things done, have interests, have drive again so I can help out my family & others when I finish school. I want 2 spend time with family again instead of feeling isolated. I miss cleaning & organizing daily because it relaxes me & then I can get in the mood 2 study. So Ketamine sounds like the best route. Thank you everyone 4 speaking on this subject because I feel so alone in this process.
Thank you Brett I appreciate you being so open with everyone about your experience my son is going to be doing it in a few days and of course my wife and I are a little anxious about it thank you again
CAMERA MAN!! I hope this worked good for your son and that he's doing better. Totally wasn't expecting to see a year old neutral drop comment here lol.
wow this is amazing, I didn't know this became an actual medical procedure.
Dave Jordan
Hi, I had my 2nd appointment today. It's well worth the money. I'd recommend you check into it.
Hi Bret , my infusions were for 7 days and I was pain free for 12 mths .
Now use nasal ketamine for pain and ptsd but getting tolerant to it now two years in . I have it at home .its compounded monthly .$160 90mls.
In Australia . Wish the local hospital would do in,fusions and for magnesium .
Update on my Ketamine therapy.
I've been going once each month now. I'm still having excellent results. I've dropped from 8 pills to 2 I'm on Cymbalta and Lithium for the Bi-Polar Disorder and the Depression Disorder. I'm doing very well on those and the Ketamine has taken away all of the Suicidal Ideation that I had every day. I have also had a discussion with the Dr. about the continued frequency of the sessions. He told me that he had patients that came in every month others that come in every other month and some only every 3 or even 6 months. Depending on your personal situation. So if you're starting you may want to remember to as your Dr. about the frequency you'll require for your own personal situation.
Wishing everyone the best!
Brian
You have a great way of explaining your experience!
Thanks. Thinking of going this route and this was very helpful for consideration.
Thanks for sharing! I just had my first 2 injections yesterday and I agree with what you are saying!! I feel more calm than before but not cured but that would be far fetched to happen after 1st does but anxiety is lower not crying in depression and my ptsd is calmer than it’s been since it materialize in my life! I have no way to describe it but advise is just stay calm and let it go how it does! No fear! Don’t fight it!!! Its short mostly burns off after an hour but you still feel kind of tired rest of the day so be easy on yourself!
Amy F thank you for information and recommendation.
Hi Bret! Very very thorough insight! Thanks for sharing!
"leprechauns jumping out of unicorn assholes" lmaoooooo
Now years later,was the treatment of long-term benefit?Did it help with the chronic pain?
I can’t even describe what I saw in my mind. It seemed like a million images, colors, shapes. Sometimes things seemed to have structure and I would fly along. Something’s reminded me of the movie Tron. There was light, and there was dark. I had good and bad feelings. There were times when I thought I was going to be trapped in this place with no body. I questioned whether reality that I knew was real or not.
As far as nausea I actually do have a donut before I go. Empty stomach is what made me sick. Yes that did happen to me. After my 2nd or 3rd my suicidal thoughts were absolutely gone. I couldn’t even force myself to think about it. I’ve waited too long without maintenance doses and need to go back again though.
EVERYONE POSTED THAT THEY ARE GOING TO "TRY IT", BUT NO ONE HAS COME BACK TO REPORT HOW IT IS WORKING!!!
Lesa Pierce , I have tried two so far. I'm going to continue to go. It's hard to describe, so before going in, I purchased a spire stone. It graphs my tense moments through out the day. Before the treatment, which recorded me tense at 2 straight minutes and forward from there, had me tense for about 200 minutes through out the day. The most I've had now is ten minutes, after two treatments. The anxiety is there, but not the chest tightening and accompanying feelings. The depression is there, but not the longevity or weight. So, the mental part is there, but zero physical is being recorded to date. So, now I just have to learn how to live without the physical symptoms. It's pretty unreal when you have to talk your body out of being tense. It's immediately gone. Previous to ketamine, years of therapy and training my brain has worked, but I could never relieve myself of the physical. Which was the worst part for me. The part that drove me to a cocktail to make it stop, or a xanax. Or to a long bath. So, I'd say he'll yes, it works. However, I'm worried about the longevity. It was 3k for this. And an additional $500 per infusion after. At this point, to relieve the physical symptoms, what wouldn't I pay? So, I would recommend getting a spire stone and tracking your own progress. That way, you know exactly what it's doing physically, as your mind may sat you're stressed, but your body is not perceiving it that way.
Shit ain’t gonna work any better than walking for an hour.. No way!!
@@mschmuck2 Fuck off, moron.
Lesa Pierce ,
I just had my 2nd infusion. I'm paying $350 per session not $500.
I've already posted 2 general comments here.
It's worth the money. I'm not "cured" yet but much better than before. I told feel suicidal. It was a feeling that never went away. Much, much better now. I'll keep updating on this site after each session.
Wishing you the best for your personal situation.
Brian
Lesa Pierce
I have just left my latest update on here about my experience with the Ketamine Infusion Therapy.
Hug's Brian
I just had a ketamine infusion for a surgery... It was absolutely wonderful and I really wish I could have experienced it a lot more but I got to about 15 seconds into it and went out.... I would really like to get my hands on some of that stuff
Thank you so much fo such a great explanation. I am planning on starting, but am nervous. So, thank you.
I've found promethazine (phenergan; a travel-sickness pill) to be an effective over-the-counter medicine for mitigating the mild nausea caused by ketamine (and all other recreational drugs I've tried). Also eating a small dairy-rich snack like a slice of pizza can help.
Thank you so much for this video!! I've been through countless videos looking for a step by step experience with a ketamine infusion. I'll be subscribing to your channel. :)
Nice dress in default Pict!!👏👌😉
F-that!!!This sounds scary as hell! Btw, nice looking ginger!
Best thing you can do while getting treatment is to let go of the will to control or understand it. Just embrace the moment and enjoy the ride. First treatment today, I'm excited about the future
I have now had 6 treatments and because I am 64 years old with a long history of anti-depressants and depression, it is going to take more treatments to get relief. I did have four better days after my fifth treatment but I didn’t feel anything before that as far as improvement. My insurance company, Premera Blue Cross is covering 80% of the six visits so far but I when I go on Medicare next month it will be a battle. They do not cover it which is odd since it is FDA approved for treatment resistant depression. Since I am going to need more treatments I will be calling them today to find out how to appeal.
I watched this video today. Then I realized it was a few years old. You said at theme that you would do another video after your next infusion. I can’t find that one. Did you ever do addition infusions and do more TH-cam’s about it ? I’m thinking of trying it.
Thanks for the video. The VA set me up with a consult for treatment at Ohio State. I hope it works.
I hope you can get it. It was a life saver for me. I had 6 treatments in April 2016. I still take a med but it’s a night and day feeling.
I had two ketamin infusion and helpt me with pain (no pain )helpt me with my depression ,got of opiods and saved my life and Im having one more next week ,it is the best think for the pain it helps a lot and if I didnt have ketamine tritment I woud be ded (depression ,pain ,pain kilers are bed).Yes ther are sam side afeks but thats nomarl ,betar than be ded .Thay put me on 7 days stright on ketamine infusion .
I've been diagnosed with Bi-Polar Manic Depressive Disorder with Suicidal Ideation. I've taken every drug they could throw at me it helped with the depression but the suicidal issues never, never went away. That's why I turned to Ketamine. Today was y 1st I'm not "cured" but I'm already a lot better. I wish you the best of luck and hope everything goes well for you in life.
Brian
I had my second session today. It went very well. The suicidal ideation is almost completely gone already.
I had it in the ER for sever pain after nothing help for pain (morphine, fentanyl). They didn’t tell me what it was, just gave it to me.
Just an FYI, is scared the living hell out of me! All the equipment on the walls became detached and were floating around the room.my only thoughts for the entire time was, “so this is how I am going to die!” But I didn’t necessarily care because there was nothin I could do about it. In the end it didn’t stop the pain at all and I was so pissed off that they didn’t tell me what was about to happen to me, I just left.
That's scary. Valium's been around for a long time and it works.
Man, you really have eased my anxiety on my appointment with what they call Spravato (Esketamine) something my Psychiatrist suggest I give a try after many years of trying different meds and only a few working. She thinks its going to be perfect for me. I've also read up on some of the crazy shit you mentioned having read up on before your dosage. I should add this is administered through a nasal spray equal to the equivalent of what I've read is 86 milligrams over a couple doses in a controlled environment. I don't expect to get to the point of a k hole and have witnessed someone in person during what they call a k hole and she looked like she didn't want to move and just sat still on her couch. In other words I don't want to experience a k hole. I have had experience with psychedelics in my early 20's and some mid 20's so I've literally seen some shit good and bad on my adventures.
Finally, how are you now? How were your follow up sessions? I looked through your video page and couldn't even find this one somehow.
Thanks! Would love to hear about the second one!
This video is amazingly in-depth and beautifully articulate. I'm a chronic pain patient who has struggled with TR-depression from age 7 (now 29). I pray I can afford this treatment some day soon, and that they find a way to keep the positive effects from dissapating (I know there's something like that called Ketace used in animals when they stop responding to the ketamine?). Anyway, thank you for this, and hope with all my heart you are still feeling well today ❤
I've tried at least 5 so called anti depressants over the last 15 years after suffering what no one should love through: a 100 plus mph combined speed head on collusion, broken neck, ruptured internal organs, a massive shoulder restraint injury, a collostomy, in other words I died. SERIOUSLY. And each day thereafter I am less and less interested in even getting up, or enjoy anything. My PTSD is killing me, seriously, as surely as I was when I was bleeding to death with seconds left to live in the ER that day. I relieve that day endlessly over and over...I honestly wish I had died that day, I had no idea if I would wake up let alone be able to ever move the day of mind shattering physical force, it was beyond imagination, only to wake up in living hell with chronic pain both physical, financial, and physical, and mental. I watched my twin brother dying in front of me, and it would have been far better if her had stayed that way, he was horribly brain damaged and he never did come back to the person he was before, not he's a very difficult person to even talk to..and his brain was damaged in the amyligdalia, the fight or fight switching center...he's stuck in the fight mode when ever I talk with him. I lost everything that day. Including my trust in the legal system. I had to disbar my attorney, sent him to jail for aggravated theft in the 1st degree, snd sued his State BAR association fo this legal malpractice insurance, I won all three law actions against the three other parties, and am torchered by all of my traumatic injures daily.. to date I have had 28 anesthestic surgical procedures, and I have need for more, four or five more...I'm so burned out from living, I need this treatment badly for both my all of my traumas and the depression , I fear my medicare insurance will say no...I don't hav
Awsome stuff bro hope all stays good can you please make a vid on a full explanation on what half lives are with any meds and how that works i never understood it
Well, we are actually formless. What form does the *self* have? And we are indeed floating in an ocean of universal self, without definite boundaries. I experienced these things once or twice during meditation, and again while singing mantras, without the help of ketamine. I'm not sure why this should help with depression, though; depression (unless it is neurologically based) is the feeling of meaninglessness that goes with lack of accomplishments. No amount of experiencing the universal consciousness, however good that is, is going to make up for lack of accomplishments. These two things are orthogonal.
I’ve read from medical studies depression turns the corner at around 5 sessions.
Thanks for sharing your experience! Do you have more videos describing your subsequent treatments/ I guess I'm wondering how many you've done & at which point this might be an effective strategy for PTSD/depression?
Thank you for sharing your experience!
Just Ketamine or Lidocaine/Ketamine mix? Thank you for your honesty of this procedure. Cheers!!!
Been on 3200mg of Gabapentin past couple years. Tolerance issues the whole way. Afraid the Ketamine with be same. Went to Psyc Dr. a month ago said it was't approved yet. Going this coming Fri. hoping. Another thing, don't want to get addicted! Seems like it would be that by time you go back for another dose, the previous one would be "waning" (tolerance). In other words, is it better the first week or two vrs the week just before the next dose? I have kind of complicated problems, which is shameful feelings my whole life, so it's not primarily depression. I suppose in any case, this medication could be a mood enhancer. That's what I'm hoping for.
Thanks for posting this. I have my first one scheduled for tomorrow.
Thank you for sharing your experience!
Happy new year
No one is talking about the high price. For just feeling good for days or some weeks. Is not in the hundreds but rather on the thousands. Who can afford it on a regular basis.?
Man, Bret, wow. That was so descriptive and helpful as someone I love is considering Ketamine. Would you please do a follow-up? How were the second and subsequent infusions? Do you feel like it's better for you now, a year or so later?
Trippy, I am on a Rapastinel study. It's like ketamine but no hallucinations at all. Lucky.
Friend, your testimony was very sincere. But I would like to know how were the other infusions and if you saw an sustainable progress in your problem with depression. I mean... It's very important for me, friend... I'm from Brazil and we have little information about the months after the 6 infusions. I don't know if people get better and forget give some feedback about their progress... I mean... I'm hopeless, and that treatment seems to offer some relief and hope to continue...
I'm 37 and suffer from depression and anxiety since my childhood. I was very strong until start treatment with antidepressants. (Recently I did a pharmacogenetic test, unfortunately my metabolism doesn't work for almost nothing, and I've tried almost everything: SSRI, tricyclics etc.)
Please, if you can tell me something, I thank you some much
I am going to make a follow-up video with my experience after taking Ketamine...stay tuned.
7:46 😆 That wasa hysterical the way you put that.... I hope to try this for my refractory depression...
Thanks a lot . I’m really considering this treatment
I've done a Lot of LSD, mushrooms etc. Have never seen a leprechaun jump out of a unicorns ass. I think I missed something.
nicely narrated! sounds a lot like my experiences
They are nurses and anesthesiologist though. Besides, psychiatrist aren't going to solve this, chemists are. Psychiatrist don't have a clue, it's researchers in chemistry that will fix depression
colin schabel you’re so dumb
My doctors are saying this is an option for me now , either ketamine or medicinal cannibas for my treatment resistant major depressive disorder , anxiety and chronic pain. Thankyou for this video
Hello Bret! Did you get a follow up treatment for it?
Thank you so much for sharing this!!
I have my first assessment in two days. I’m hoping I can experience similar benefits.
i imagine what would it be like if they added DMT to the Ketamine infusion. that would be an awesome experience.
Hi! I'm currently undergoing ECT treatments for depression and they are slightly working, yet there's still that deep sense of fear, emotional pain and I have absolutely no motivation to even the most simple of tasks. I have been considering ketamine infusion therapy for awhile, and I think I want to try it. I just have a few questions, like does it help give you more motivation? Like, this seems disgusting but I haven't showered in forever because I just don't want to/absolutely *no* motivation. Does it help lift your baseline mood after a period of time? My baseline is consistently rock bottom; heavy depression, that unbeatable urge to cry, etcetera. Does it help bring back ambitions? I dropped out of med school because, after the death of my girlfriend, I just couldn't do it. Do other people see a difference in you? If you could help me with these questions I would really, really appreciate it
I suffer with Chronic pain. Cptsd , anxiety Gad.,, Major Depression. I have been on many meds and therapies for many years.. i would love to be free of Depression. And my pain .
Hey there....well you have it different in the USA......lm in Australia and my Pain Management Dr has offered me the Ketamine Infusion for pain....its $6000 to have it done here & we do it differently cos my Dr told me l will need to go into Hospital for 5 to 7 days and have it all done everyday over that time period & thats all l know so far.......but lm hearing you guys have it done in Outpatients so your home afterwards and you return a week later? It worries me that if it does cost a lot and its a lot of money if it doesnt work! Does it cost you guys?
speaking of speaking during ketamine, it can cause short term memory loss, and slurring. You mentioned slurring, did at any point after or during you feel you could not remember what words you wanted to say or forget where you were?
Bret, did it help your pain?
it sounds scary and exciting at same time.
mark d not scary at all :)
Hi Bret how do you feel after a while? Does it last? It does not? Do you feel cured?
What clinic is this? They are dosing higher and faster in terms of repeating sessions then any other I've heard of.
Hey Bret how’s it going? I start mine in October. Do you feel it’s worth it?
Yes, I think it was worth the experience. I never went beyond the second treatment though. Good luck - report back and tell us how it went.
Nicole Cammack Hi Nicole, I have MDD and my meds are not working. I am going to try Ketamine. Did it work for you? Please answer me if you can. Any input will help and will be appreciated it a lot. Thank you.
Thank you for your video, sir! You've answered a lot of questions. I do have one more question for you. Did your medical insurance pay for your infusion or did you have to pay all or some money out of pocket?
Medical insurance almost NEVER covers this sort of treatment! Mine didn't, and most others won't. I had to pay out-of-pocket.
I just had my 1st of 6 today it's $350 each here anyway. That the insurance won't cover. However after the first 6 if you need a once a month Maintenance session some insurance company's will kick in and pay. Just what I was told today.
@@ArthurBrinkman-c5z $350 almost sounds like a deal. The place near me is $550 per session.
I'm getting my first treatment next week. I'm just like you I get panic attacks when I lose intune with my breathing. I'm scared. Also do you really need someone to pick you up after the treatment? Or is it just to be safe bs?
Thank you, I have my first infusion Monday.
Hi Bret. Do you know what dose you had?
As long as it doesn’t make me worse I don’t see why I wouldn’t try it.
I have nothing to lose, literally. I’m at the end of the rope with mind. Thanks for video about the treatment, can you tell me differences now years later? Thank you
Did you do it?
David Seriff Corona happened and nobody on these fucking ketamine clinics or video diaries ever reply back about the questions I have. It seems almost like a pr push to get people to use the boutique clinics at exorbitant prices for something that has little to no long term positive effect.
But yes I still plan to do it in the summer if things open up and I am in contact with a clinic and intend on trying it out.
This was where I was at, and so I started ketamine 9 months ago. It saved my life, I can’t even explain how different my life is now, I am so engaged in life, learning, working, everything. It made me able to live again.
@@jeremyncrm2012 For real?
Moriarty Vivaldi yeah, I have suffered with depression for 15 years, been on over 15 antidepressants, 7 anti psychotics, did TMS, ate healthy, exercised, but nothing really helped. I was considering doing ECT therapy or going to a mental health rehab because I was so suicidal I really thought I was going to kill myself, I wasn’t functioning, showering, I could barely work and my work performance was almost non existent, and all I could think about was ending everything. My wife works as a nurse and knew an anesthesiologist through her work who does ketamine infusions and so I talked with him and we decided might as well, considering the alternative, and so I went to do it. I got several infusions the first week, and I started feeling better by the 3rd infusion, and by the time I got my 4th infusion it was like I was an entirely different person. I now get one infusion every 5-6 weeks, it seems like after 5 weeks I start feeling the depression creep back so I get another infusion, but it has been a miracle for me and my family. I wouldn’t recommend this to your average person, but if you’ve tried multiple other options and feel like there’s no hope, then I would say give this a shot, it really saved my life.
Please let us know how you continue to progress.
Ketamine is a miracle compound and probably my favorite compound at least in the top 2. the first time I did ketamine was in 2009, I was 33 years old. at that point in my life, I have probably tried about 40 or 50 different compounds for drugs. that includes mental health medications and research chemicals. At first, people don't really know what to think when they do it the first 5 - 10 times, but then something happens and instead of feeling kinda weirded out on it you enter the K matrix and it resonates with you. After about 50 times it probably becomes 80% of the people their favorite drug. I CAN'T THINK OF A SAFER MORE BEEFICAL RECREATION/THERAPEUTIC DRUG THAN KETAMINE. IT IS NEUROPROTECTIVE AND IT FORMS NEW CONNECTIONS IN YOUR BRAIN BY INCREASING NEUROPLACISITY AND THE ABILITY TO FORM NEW NEURAL NETWORKS, SO it is ALSO A NEUROTROPIC. I CANT SAY ENOUGH ABOUT KETAMINE. I HAVE BEEN RESEARCHING IT ON AND OFF OVER 10 YEARS AND I PROBABLY HAVE DONE IT WAY OVER 1,000 X/DOSES. AT ONE POINT I DID IT EVERY DAY ALL DAY FOR ABOUT 3 MONTHS, 10 - 15 100 - 150/MG. im INJECTIONS. ITS DOWNSIDES ARE ITS VERY HARD ON YOUR BLADDER IF YOU DO IT LIKE I DID AND IT WILL ROT OUT YOUR SEPTUM FAST IF YOU SNIFF IT ALL THE TIME. PUT A HOLE THROUGH MINE, BUT I ALSO WAS MIXING IT WITH MEPHEDRONE. OTHER THAN THAT THERE IS NO OTHER RISKS TO THE DRUG ITSELF, BUT PEOPLE GET INJURED OFTEN ON IT BECAUSE THEY DO NOT PLAY BY THE RULES AND THINK THEY CAN RIDE A 4 WHEELER OR SOMETHING. ok when I was in rehab back in 2011 I started talking about it with my counselor that it was going to get approved for psychiatric medication, and they told me I was f****** insane. what my primary counselor who was one of the best counselors that I've ever had and I have had a lot, look up some information that I made her look for on the computer back then. she couldn't believe it but she couldn't deny it either. back then people really didn't talk about it scientists are studying it and doing abstracts, and it was being used back then even though it wasn't approved by the FDA for psychiatric disorders and they also used it for regional pain syndrome. they would actually put people in ketamine, 4 days and these people can hardly walk beforehand from the pain they had, but the ketamine is rewired something in their nervous system and they can walk again. it's probably the most power glutamate modulator that we know of. it's being researched right now to treat addiction and looks pretty promising. it affects the NMDA receptors and this is where access glutamate builds up, and that is really bad for us because it causes are dopamine receptors two more or less burn out of fry for lack of a better explanation at this point. Also increased AMPA receptor activation, and has a direct relation between over-excitation of glutamate receptors and many mental health disorders, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, dementia and addiction. taking ketamine if you are someone who abuses stimulants is probably one of the best things that you could ever do for yourself. after a stimulant binge, I would recommend 100 mg ketamine fight intramuscular ROA, for best bioavailability. for stimulant abuser such as myself, this is where a huge part of the problem lies. the drugs in South Stone cause brain damage but extended over-excitation of those receptors being glutamate and how they affect norepinephrine and dopamine receptors causing potentially severe damage. the same damage can even be caused by things such as environmental factors and stress, so if you're prone to things like that TH-camand go on stimulant binges all the time you can expect to end up how I did for a while. I got parkinsonism and still have it to a slight extent. the nervous system does heal itself and that's pretty much what has happened with me because I don't go to the limits that I used to and I take neuroprotective supplements and I want to start using the ketamine as well but it sucks because you have to break the water to get it. it literally is the equivalent to it restarting or rebooting your computer after a long long web session going on corn sites messing it up. everything is just kind of settled again and rewired. I can't say enough about ketamine. I've been telling people the national science of Mental Health are person or spokesperson wrote an article a few years ago called it's the biggest psychiatric medication breakthrough in 50 years. it should be available low-dose pill form or they should have a 4-Hour class on how to do home injections so that it doesn't cost so f****** much. the f****** Pharmaceutical companies even found a way to patent it by changing the atomic position one notch. basically it is an analog and it would be considered a research chemical if it was of no interest to big pharma. GOOD JOB BRET YOUR SUBSCRIBERS REALLY ENJOY YOU AS I DO AS WELL!
Thanks 🙏
Leprechauns jumping from Unicorn AH’s. Never tripped that hard anyway :). I get my first one in November.
Hi Bret, have you had any more sessions? I had my 1st one on Saturday and my 2nd will be on Wednesday. I'm curious to hear others experiences. Hope you are well.
how did your experience go?
mark d I couldn't really tell if they were working from my first few infusions. I was starting to feel discouraged. My husband said he noticed a lot less crying spells. (And he was right once I thought about it.) I didn't notice a difference myself until after my fifth treatment.
what happened after 5th treatment?
mark d I usually have a constant inner critic, berating me non-stop. It's so very negative. After the 5th infusion the inner critic is quieter, non as chatty. And I am able to recognize it and pivot away from the negative thought (as opposed to automatically feeling bad and ashamed and paralyzed). Also I have not woken up with an automatic sense of dread like before. I used to have to fight a lot of resistance when it came time to do certain tasks- like laundry or getting on the treadmill. Now I just kind of do it; without having to overcome any resistance. I don't know if it sounds like much, but for me it's actually a big relief. I wouldn't say that the infusions have made me feel "happy". But now I can remember what happy has felt like in the past and I do feel like I'm capable of feeling happy in the future. I couldn't do either of those before.
thats great, keep me posted if positive effects last long, i want to know how long it works.
I am very interested in trying this for chronic pain
I got my first infusion and on the same day it seemed to help a little with anxiety etc. but the next day I suddenly got extreme dpdr/dissociation(which I already suffer with)and anxiety. It’s now 3 days later and haven’t gotten better.. I don’t know what to do when I’m suffering severely 24:7 and don’t want to take anti-depressants. I hoped this would help but it made it worse and don’t know if I should take round 2??
Do you need a referral? Or just setup an appointment with a clinic??
What dose, how many mg's was injected into your IV for your infusion?
I knew a dude that tried this stuff recreationally and he went into that K hole thing and squatted in the corner of the room fully clothed and shit his pants. He was telling me about it at work one day 25 years ago, he also said he’s not touching that shit again after that experience. 🤣 obviously that’s not a clinical setting so... I am interested in this as a treatment but have no experience with hallucinating drugs or anything like that so i’m scared out of my mind to even do it. researching by watching videos like yours, Thanks for posting it!
lol nice story
Yes it is too expensive for me also
I'm looking into the esketamine nasal spray 'Spravato'. Insurance should pick that up if you qualify. Considering the low cost of pharmaceutical ketamine there should be a black market and online instructions how to safely administer the infusions.
How did the infusions go? I'm doing them now and had my second infusion which was much better than the first experience, lol.
Could you please elaborate on the dosage amount of psilocybin required to be considered a high amount 🤔
Thanks for this video but I have a question.
Can you elaborate on “eyes burning out of peoples’ skulls” at around 12:30
Yeah that is scary that made me not want to do treatment
I found your video when searching for Ketamine info. I did 3 treatments 3 years ago and thinking about doing the full protocol this time. It is interesting looking at your list of videos and I have tried most of things you do videos about. I am so sick of this ride! Did you only have one infusion?
akaSuzanne yup just one. I have made a lot of lifestyle changes since, and life has improved greatly.
Curious why you didn't go back after the 3 treatments.
How many milligrams did they give you? Sounds like a dose far higher than the standard 30mg... especially over the course of a few hours.... sounds like a dose closer to 100mg... not typical for ketamine infusion
40 minute sessions? Whaaaaa I didn't know they were aloud to do infusions that quickly. Interesting.
@@n0tett Why exactly ?, that time period is fairly regular for infusions...
30mg is way 2 small for the average adult, 100mg is sounding more realistic, even 200mg can b applied here...sounds crazy but it happens
thanks dude - good recap. i hope youre doing better now. :)
I am, thanks :)
You should ask for iv zofran next time.
More info
i wanna quite ketamine. I am an addict. Does someone knows wtf happens if i quite using? I fear from having big depression secuels
Thank you very helpful