Ankush Jindal Yes. The data clearly showed how the poor could ill afford to pursue the genuine cases against the wealthy and mighty perpetrators. And which resulted in the acquittal or dropping of cases.
hnb193 like UPSC filtered out so many illustrious officers. Anyone who claims to prepare for the service to serve the people is being comical. We know that you are in it for the money.
Thanks Frank for a good discussion and bringing Sai Deepak back on the show.Please don't bring biased panelists like Professor who misguides a good discussion.I wonder if they are the people teaching at JNU;they must be instigating students on the basis of caste in JNU.Kudos to J sai Deepak and Satya prakash who pointed out the things very rightly.
Well said avinash singh..i was going to cmnt these words which u mentioned and when i scrolled down cmnt i found ur comnt...indeed the proffesor is biased and his thought of actually all of the jnu students and its staffs.
I like watching big picture. But i like it more when J Sai Deepak is among the discussion panelist. He enriches the discussion in a scholarly way. It feels great that India has a well learnt and experienced advocate like him. Deepak sir , hats off !! You not only provide justice to people but enriches the life of many.
What an utter load of crap by the jnu professor. Sai Deepak rightly educated him of the facts which he conveniently ignored and tried to undermine. The more one sees the intellectual hypocrisy of these jnu ilks, the more one grows wary of the atmosphere in our universities.
Yuganshu Sharma ...I dont understand why Sharmas and Shastris come in the first row against seculars... These are the ones who spoiled the nation with ruthless inhumane brahmanical practices. .and now monger ...I DONT Hope they suffer one day of the same discrimination.
Positive me y u so called liberals tries to denounce society on caste rather than calling sharma shastri n raising brahamnical agenda u should fight for core issues
9th schedule - laws under which cannot be challenged in court. This schedule was added in 1st amendment, 1951. It includes (land reforms, abolition of zamindari system, and other laws ) to protect the laws included in it protected from judicial scrutiny on the ground of violation of fundamental rights. However in 2007, SC ruled that the law included in the schedule after April 24, 1973 (keswabhananda case) are now open to judicial review. Latest verdict- January 2017 - no blanket immunity, Judicial review is a basic structure so, cannot be taken away by putting a law under 9th schedule. Two test of any law passed by parliament- 1st: check for violation of FR i.e, Part 3. 2nd: if violate FR, whether the amount of violation goes to violation of basic structure or not. why India didn't have revolution even though there is lot of discrimination ? because the constitution itself is a revolution without any bloodshed. But in ground things didn't change in overnight. Hence , the parliament pass a number of acts including the SC/ST atrocities act. Instead of reduction, atrocities are more day by bay. That is why govt. want to bring the SC/ST act in 9th schedule. But will it reduce the atrocities is still doubtful. The consequence putting in 9th schedule may not change anything to the SC verdict and the law. The rise in the number of cases is not in proportion to the number of instances reported. And data shows lot of misuse of the act was happened. SC judgement is primarily based on the liberty of individual and try to balance between the protection and the abuse. ( both are in FR, art 13 and art 17). There is need to introduce safeguard for both FR. Speedy justice is the need of the hour.
What a debate hats off to RSTV. Other Channels must learn from RSTV on how to conduct a debate in a healthy manner. But sadly they only care about Sensation and TRPs.
As usual sai deepak has displayed his intelligence. Very much eager to hear him. In all matters he is marking his stamp. Well done Sai Deepak. Wonderful
Sai Deepak....a great legal luminary of India in the making! I wish to see him as a Judge of the SC in the decades to come! Exceptional analytical capability!
The moment the Prof. said there is no data, I was like you have just let your guard down, just prepare for (S)AI Deepak's data punches to knock you out!
Saideepak is terrific✌ to the point discussion and shouldn't encourage people how are baised like jnu professor. Pereira you are improving alot since from beginning Iam watching you keep it up✌
Nagaraju Bhandaru He's already an SC advocate. He's currently fighting to free Hindu temples from govt. control and is also involved with the Ramjanmabhoomi case.
literally Deepak Sir you are so eloquent... very lucidly you stated the fact and put that in our perspective Thank u RSTV and especially The Big Picture Team n Mr. Frank Rausan Pereira for letting us know some of the debatable issues into our views.
Well Quoted. But efforts to citing this balance creates imbalance. According to me, we should take a broader view as to whether the law is successful. Many people still suffer the atrocities. We can talk on data when we achieve 100% reporting and we are free from witness/complainant intimidation.
@@rakeshkatkade375 thats why BAD RESERVATION must be Removed in Bharat.. and GOOD reservation must be Implemented.. Give to the Reservation only to those who are Financially Weaker and only in Education Sectors
J sai deepak and mr.satya prakash always give lots of insights into the issue.J sai deepak always has absolute clarity and conviction of what he speaks.Professor seems to be confused on the issue. Anyway nice debate and it could be even better if rs tv has brought some another person who advocates for sc st rights. tnx rs tv
It was totally an impartial debate except for the points put forward by JNU professor . Brilliant panel . Thanks for so much of knowledge . What a relief from those shouting politicians with no ground reality in their points .
The police station in my area registered a FIR( SC/st act) AFTER TAKINg Rs. 6000 .....And again demanding 5000 to take action on it ....We fullfil both the demand because of fear ......And still we are waiting for any action ......Law and order is really not working in my area .....The way I experienced ......Then we approach to the S. P. He is not doing anything ......This is the fact .... And if the situations is maintained like this by police station only then naxel comes in the picture of society .....And then government playing politics on it and put energy to kill these innocent people and feeling pride ......What the hell is going I can't able to understand ........ If this is the situation people may think about taking law and order in his hand....
With so many big acts &rules , the irony of today s India is attrocities against sc&STs keeps on jumping at geometrical proportion.on day to day basis fundamental rights of Dalits are exploited, The insensitive supreme court which is protector of fundamental rights of all citizens of this country is dumb and blind towards the marginalized communities of this land at ground reality & gravity of situation by delivering the attrocious verdict which is nothing but judicial attrocity&mockery of justice.
After all prof is from jnu , u should not expect more, for any thing and everything they put the agenda first then tries to deviate the roads to that. Some r there to run behind it to hell.
1 - J Sai Deepak is unbelievably genius.. 2 - Narendra Kumar is urban naxal clearly - no argument but only focused on deepening divisions and sow hatredness.. 3 - In fact people like him are detrimental to growth of SC / ST communities in times to come...
I suspect any law can protect sc/st...somehow these discriminations keep happening and we don't find ourselves in that position where we can prove the atrocity forget about lodging a complaint. ..it can be in any form...what can be done by the Govt, other than making laws,is to invest in the human development and bring them in organised sector because most of the people belonging to this category are labourers, small landholders...if financial security is insured people will invest in education and as they become aware and empowered these discrimination will automatically erase....then there will be no necessity of some special provision like sc/st act....
some laws are to be reviewed in tune with time and socio economic conditions of people in the society, , SC, ST's atrocities and untouchability acts, which was introduced by Jawaharlal Nehru , ,may be good in 1950&60's, as per the situation prevailed in the society, ,but even after 68 years after introducing this law , there took place vast changes in SC& ST's from education to employment besides their commanding position in legislature , but since last few decades they are over smart and mis using this law against their opponents even for trivial issues too,as per the present political scenario, all acts which were included in 9th schedule are to be reviewed by Judiciary, to prevent mis of this law ,, jus as int he case Article 370, &35A, the PSA ,
TN reservation policy was framed before the keshavanda Bharti case and the case have prospective effect .since it has prospective effect it cannot be challenged it excercise blanket immunity..
J Sai Deepak as usual nailed it in his own style n hitted on d head of jnu professor. Next time wen u came fr debates better prepare well mr. Professor
Some sc/st people (anysenior professors or any experienced person ) should be present in discussion of sc/st act.. so that they can put some real examples and make discussion more live and ground level discussion will increase..
Acquittal and withdrawal of the cases under the Act doesn't mean that the Act is being misused, according to the mentioned data, if we can reflect upon the nature of acquittal of these cases. If the case resulted in acquittal and withdrawal, it only shows that the justice is being denied and not the Act being misused.
There is a golden mean. The original law should be implemented in rural areas, Panchayats and tier 2 and 3 cities where the chances of misuse are almost nil. In tier 1 cities and metropolitans the modified law should be applied. The government should frame the new bill in this way instead of putting it in schedule IX.
Sai Deepak at his usual best. Thanks for inviting him RS.
Destroyed that JNU professor. Such clarity with Sai Deepak. Invite him again RSTV. Such a marvelous debate.
Always love listening to J Sai Deepak. Wonderful.
Sai Deepak sir and Satya prakash sir are a treat to listen. Thank you rstv
J. SAI DEEPAK ji should be called more frequently on the RSTV shows.
Sai deepak totally shattering professore on data point....What a good scene
Ankush Jindal Yes. The data clearly showed how the poor could ill afford to pursue the genuine cases against the wealthy and mighty perpetrators. And which resulted in the acquittal or dropping of cases.
resket32 that is just u r biased interpretation which is far away from reality
resket32 Have seen you commenting elsewhere too.
Don’t worry UPSC will filter out biased people like you.
hnb193 like UPSC filtered out so many illustrious officers. Anyone who claims to prepare for the service to serve the people is being comical. We know that you are in it for the money.
@@resket32 are u an officer yet?
Thanks Frank for a good discussion and bringing Sai Deepak back on the show.Please don't bring biased panelists like Professor who misguides a good discussion.I wonder if they are the people teaching at JNU;they must be instigating students on the basis of caste in JNU.Kudos to J sai Deepak and Satya prakash who pointed out the things very rightly.
Avinash Singh that's the reason why most jnu goons support violent crime done by Marxist insurgents against the govt and those who don't support them.
Well said avinash singh..i was going to cmnt these words which u mentioned and when i scrolled down cmnt i found ur comnt...indeed the proffesor is biased and his thought of actually all of the jnu students and its staffs.
Dr. Makarand Paranjape is probably the only sensible professor at JNU.
My Delhi University professor of Political science was also like him, and anti-Hinduism.
Good to know unknown things from Sai Deepak , Satya Prakash.
I like watching big picture. But i like it more when J Sai Deepak is among the discussion panelist. He enriches the discussion in a scholarly way. It feels great that India has a well learnt and experienced advocate like him.
Deepak sir , hats off !! You not only provide justice to people but enriches the life of many.
What an utter load of crap by the jnu professor. Sai Deepak rightly educated him of the facts which he conveniently ignored and tried to undermine. The more one sees the intellectual hypocrisy of these jnu ilks, the more one grows wary of the atmosphere in our universities.
Yuganshu Sharma ...I dont understand why Sharmas and Shastris come in the first row against seculars...
These are the ones who spoiled the nation with ruthless inhumane brahmanical practices. .and now monger ...I DONT Hope they suffer one day of the same discrimination.
Positive me sharma is right these JNU scumbags always try to destroy social fabric of society bloody communist they want azaadi hell wd them
sunny chandrayan may i request ur commentson casteist social fabric created by these sharmas
Positive me y u so called liberals tries to denounce society on caste rather than calling sharma shastri n raising brahamnical agenda u should fight for core issues
sunny chandrayan do u have any familial ties wid dalits ?
9th schedule - laws under which cannot be challenged in court. This schedule was added in 1st amendment, 1951. It includes (land reforms, abolition of zamindari system, and other laws ) to protect the laws included in it protected from judicial scrutiny on the ground of violation of fundamental rights. However in 2007, SC ruled that the law included in the schedule after April 24, 1973 (keswabhananda case) are now open to judicial review. Latest verdict- January 2017 - no blanket immunity, Judicial review is a basic structure so, cannot be taken away by putting a law under 9th schedule. Two test of any law passed by parliament-
1st: check for violation of FR i.e, Part 3.
2nd: if violate FR, whether the amount of violation goes to violation of basic structure or not.
why India didn't have revolution even though there is lot of discrimination ? because the constitution itself is a revolution without any bloodshed. But in ground things didn't change in overnight. Hence , the parliament pass a number of acts including the SC/ST atrocities act.
Instead of reduction, atrocities are more day by bay. That is why govt. want to bring the SC/ST act in 9th schedule. But will it reduce the atrocities is still doubtful. The consequence putting in 9th schedule may not change anything to the SC verdict and the law.
The rise in the number of cases is not in proportion to the number of instances reported. And data shows lot of misuse of the act was happened. SC judgement is primarily based on the liberty of individual and try to balance between the protection and the abuse. ( both are in FR, art 13 and art 17). There is need to introduce safeguard for both FR. Speedy justice is the need of the hour.
magnet khuraijam wrong at one position SC verdict of 2007 case says no blanket not in 2017 .
Thanks a lot Bro for this analysis
What a debate hats off to RSTV. Other Channels must learn from RSTV on how to conduct a debate in a healthy manner. But sadly they only care about Sensation and TRPs.
As usual sai deepak has displayed his intelligence. Very much eager to hear him. In all matters he is marking his stamp. Well done Sai Deepak. Wonderful
wow , what a wonderful debate....#DEEPAK JI NE TO FAD K RAKH DIYA.... thanku
Sai Deepak....a great legal luminary of India in the making! I wish to see him as a Judge of the SC in the decades to come! Exceptional analytical capability!
Satya prakash and J sai deepak both of you r great great and simply great
The moment the Prof. said there is no data, I was like you have just let your guard down, just prepare for (S)AI Deepak's data punches to knock you out!
thanks for RSTV for best person in debate and subject persons like SAI DEEPAK SIR
Saideepak is terrific✌ to the point discussion and shouldn't encourage people how are baised like jnu professor. Pereira you are improving alot since from beginning Iam watching you keep it up✌
saideepak has bright future....even can elevate to sc
Nagaraju Bhandaru He's already an SC advocate. He's currently fighting to free Hindu temples from govt. control and is also involved with the Ramjanmabhoomi case.
+Saurabh I mean to a judge of SC
Good conversation. Thanks to all.
Sai Deepak 👌
Jai Hind
literally Deepak Sir you are so eloquent... very lucidly you stated the fact and put that in our perspective
Thank u RSTV and especially The Big Picture Team n Mr. Frank Rausan Pereira for letting us know some of the debatable issues into our views.
Classic debate! Justice to one section of society should not b cause of injustice to another! Balance is d only way forward!
Sanket Yamgar nicely quoted
One of the best thing I read lately
Well Quoted. But efforts to citing this balance creates imbalance. According to me, we should take a broader view as to whether the law is successful. Many people still suffer the atrocities. We can talk on data when we achieve 100% reporting and we are free from witness/complainant intimidation.
@@rakeshkatkade375 thats why BAD RESERVATION must be Removed in Bharat.. and GOOD reservation must be Implemented..
Give to the Reservation only to those who are Financially Weaker and only in Education Sectors
Always a delight to hear J Sai Deepak
Prof Kumar highly biased .
Sai Deepak nailed it . Supreme court has given very balanced order . Politicians are playing with us.
J sai deepak and mr.satya prakash always give lots of insights into the issue.J sai deepak always has absolute clarity and conviction of what he speaks.Professor seems to be confused on the issue.
Anyway nice debate and it could be even better if rs tv has brought some another person who advocates for sc st rights.
tnx rs tv
It is like a competition of knowledge. Great debate has become a norm with the inclusion of J Sai Deepak and Satya Prakash.
In love with Sai Deepak. Clarity, Precision and a deep understanding and dissection of the issue along with a captivating lingual proficiency.
Jnu professor had debated only on one side..nd a great discussion used for a common man tq rajyasaba
It was totally an impartial debate except for the points put forward by JNU professor . Brilliant panel . Thanks for so much of knowledge . What a relief from those shouting politicians with no ground reality in their points .
Good to see Satya Prakash and Sai Deepak together after a long time. Both of them are very good speakers
J Sai Deepak future Chief justice of India...
What a calm, composed , factual debate! Kudos !!
i really gt clear view of 9th schedule .
tnx to #rstv and specially #Sai Deepak
Sai deepak sir is nothing less then enlightenment
great articulation by Sai . Thank you RSTV
The police station in my area registered a FIR( SC/st act) AFTER TAKINg Rs. 6000 .....And again demanding 5000 to take action on it ....We fullfil both the demand because of fear ......And still we are waiting for any action ......Law and order is really not working in my area .....The way I experienced ......Then we approach to the S. P. He is not doing anything ......This is the fact .... And if the situations is maintained like this by police station only then naxel comes in the picture of society .....And then government playing politics on it and put energy to kill these innocent people and feeling pride ......What the hell is going I can't able to understand ........ If this is the situation people may think about taking law and order in his hand....
Very good discussion. Thanks to all panelists and Mr Frank.
With so many big acts &rules , the irony of today s India is attrocities against sc&STs keeps on jumping at geometrical proportion.on day to day basis fundamental rights of Dalits are exploited, The insensitive supreme court which is protector of fundamental rights of all citizens of this country is dumb and blind towards the marginalized communities of this land at ground reality & gravity of situation by delivering the attrocious verdict which is nothing but judicial attrocity&mockery of justice.
Thanks RSTV
Wow... The panelists were superb and especially J.Sai Deepak 👏👏
Prof : there's no data
JSD : ye lo
Thanks..saw just because of Sai and he is as usual the best..
the legend sai deepak shall be the idol of every Indian and people should seek logic, patriotism, forming thoughts and views on issues from him.
I guess being an advocate really gets the best out of you at least on such constitutional topics.
Good points by Mr. Sai Deepak, as well as other panelists.
I have always maintained that JSD is a rockstar.
Sai dipak is wonderful
U had given detailed information about ninth schedule and sc and St act. thank Uuu to rs tv for bringing capable panelist once again thank u
The superb show....Thanks Rajya Sabha TV for very well elaborated and elucidate debate.
Seeing future CJI in sai deepak.... And in love with his skills..
Keep it up sai .. ur oratory skills are by par d highest level of perfection ...well adressed
Salute to J Sai Deepak... see from 18:23 to 20:50 and enjoy... Request RS TV to invite J Sai Deepak more frequently.
why nobody is talking about Satya Prakash ,,he is too a genius in Constituional matters..
Best discussion....RStv you are the best....!!!!!
Professor is not professional
Satya Prakash sir very sensible.
Who are here for J.Sai Deepak Sir 🔥
Show spoiled by professor
Just here to listen J Sai Deepak
Sai deepak👌👌👌👌👌🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
Thnxs for sensitizing.
Thanks RSTV for such a knowledgeable debate.
why i like this channel is they don't call mobs for debate
It was a good discussion.. and indeed a balance is required....
Sai Deepak you Freaking Machine !!
What a well answer has been given on the data point by sai deppak!
Only true legitimate news channel invites sai deepak
Professor could have been replaced by someone like j sai Deepak.....
After all prof is from jnu , u should not expect more, for any thing and everything they put the agenda first then tries to deviate the roads to that. Some r there to run behind it to hell.
Superb debate one of the best channel of India
J Sai Deepak is brilliant.
Very interesting discussion. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Excellent and very informative video. One of the best..
agree with narenderkumar sir..atrocities are increasing not reducing
1 - J Sai Deepak is unbelievably genius..
2 - Narendra Kumar is urban naxal clearly - no argument but only focused on deepening divisions and sow hatredness..
3 - In fact people like him are detrimental to growth of SC / ST communities in times to come...
Fan of SAI DEEPAK SIR
S sai deepak a treat to listen
Sai deepak nicely explained , one question directly from your discussion in upsc....:D
Why doesn't RSTV invite very expert speakers instead of inviting such an average and ordinary JNU professor... It is just a one sided debate..
Sai Deepak anna...superb logic..that professor..does he have ground level knowledge....
laughter challenge show, perfect place for JNU Professor
This is welcome judgement by Supreme Court. Because laws shouldn't biased for one section of community
That's how democracy works excellent Satya Prakash
Best channel to watch news.. Thnxx.. Please bring an #App of #rajyasabha.. To make it more user friendly
good and peacefully discussion.
Judicial review is needed to check the imbalances.
I suspect any law can protect sc/st...somehow these discriminations keep happening and we don't find ourselves in that position where we can prove the atrocity forget about lodging a complaint. ..it can be in any form...what can be done by the Govt, other than making laws,is to invest in the human development and bring them in organised sector because most of the people belonging to this category are labourers, small landholders...if financial security is insured people will invest in education and as they become aware and empowered these discrimination will automatically erase....then there will be no necessity of some special provision like sc/st act....
There is a difference between empowered people and victims what a conclusion.
nice sir..good job of rs tv..
some laws are to be reviewed in tune with time and socio economic conditions of people in the society, , SC, ST's atrocities and untouchability acts, which was introduced by Jawaharlal Nehru , ,may be good in 1950&60's, as per the situation prevailed in the society, ,but even after 68 years after introducing this law , there took place vast changes in SC& ST's from education to employment besides their commanding position in legislature , but since last few decades they are over smart and mis using this law against their opponents even for trivial issues too,as per the present political scenario, all acts which were included in 9th schedule are to be reviewed by Judiciary, to prevent mis of this law ,, jus as int he case Article 370, &35A, the PSA ,
I have a question if it can be challenged on the grounds of FR,then why not TN's reservation policy?
TN reservation policy was framed before the keshavanda Bharti case and the case have prospective effect .since it has prospective effect it cannot be challenged it excercise blanket immunity..
Huge fan of j sai deepak...
Thank U rstv,,,
Nice
I doubt the appointment process of govt universities and that of JNU. Such uncompetitive professors and they are teaching the country.
J Sai Deepak as usual nailed it in his own style n hitted on d head of jnu professor. Next time wen u came fr debates better prepare well mr. Professor
J Sai Deepak=BIG PICTURE OF RSTV
If Sai is not on the panel. I would not seen this show at all.
Some sc/st people (anysenior professors or any experienced person ) should be present in discussion of sc/st act.. so that they can put some real examples and make discussion more live and ground level discussion will increase..
Acquittal and withdrawal of the cases under the Act doesn't mean that the Act is being misused, according to the mentioned data, if we can reflect upon the nature of acquittal of these cases. If the case resulted in acquittal and withdrawal, it only shows that the justice is being denied and not the Act being misused.
There is a golden mean. The original law should be implemented in rural areas, Panchayats and tier 2 and 3 cities where the chances of misuse are almost nil. In tier 1 cities and metropolitans the modified law should be applied. The government should frame the new bill in this way instead of putting it in schedule IX.
Sai deepak MSD ( MAHENDRA SINGH DHONI)OF LAW