I love your content but rarely comment on videos. So, here's a shout-out as a representative of all those silent watchers who get excited each time you put out a video but don't necessarily give you any feedback. Happy 2020!
I love this video. It's a consolidation of years of your work and knowledge. Really appreciate you taking the time to put this together and sharing this information. EDIT: PS Thank you for saying "do not go into debt to buy these microphones". I am so happy you said that, it's something that I think a lot of folks don't think about.
I was able to get everything I needed out of this video within 4 minutes thanks to the stellar labeling and price ranging to let me only watch the part that's applicable to what I need. Good show, I love following channels who respect their followers!
Hey @curtisjudd what a quality video, thanks for doing this. I'm interested in the MKH 8050, I'm curious what kind of setup you use with it. Any wind protection, and perhaps most importantly, do you use a specific shock mount with it?
Great rundown as usual. In my opinion, for low budgets, Rode NTG-2 should get discontinued. Low sensitivity with rattling battery compartment makes it unusable for booming around, the xlr in itself wobbles and has harsh cutting spikes. At work, a second new replacement is being sent back due to bad connection out of the box, need extra amps to get it to work with such as entry Zoom recorders. Medium budgets, the AT4053B and NTG-3 just as you describe. Many pros have it as a backup as it works every time. Medium High, I can recommend the Sanken CSM1 (small and light for indoor and outdoor) Phantom power only.
Thanks for giving the Octava its proper due - it continues to impress me(hypercardioid). I've kind of stopped thinking about boom mics since discovering how good it is. You'd have to spend a lot more to do better. It benefits from the Rycote Inv 6 or the mixpre's 80Hz high pass. Don't use the highpass module that comes with the Octava - it kills all that wonderful low end.
Great video. BUT for Schoeps and humidity : on the contrary, take out the capsule on the microphone well before shooting, and let it get used to the humidity. After 5-10min the whistling and crackling will be over, and you can start recording ;)
Great video, Curtis! As usual. Thank you! If you haven't done so already, here's a topic that you may want to consider creating a video about: XLR cables. If I hadn't done my own tests, I'd have guessed they'd all be pretty much the same, but boy was I proven wrong. For example I have two Mogami (Neglex) XLR cables, but with two different model numbers. One is very warm and the other is way more open and transparent with beautiful HF coming through. As far as recording dialogue goes - and mostly for those reading this who don't do any post-processing for your videos - XLR cables can really make a huge difference in the overall sound quality of your microphones. So, try different models, if you have the budget, to find what's right for you.
Great informative concise education vid that balances info vs opinion - thanks, Curtis. You consistently deliver on your YT influencer status in audio for video.
It's amazing, the Samson C02's were some of the first mics I ever got, back when I was a teenager. I thought of them as 'budget' and just what I could afford then. But with age, I've realized that they've more than stood the test of time. Still one of the best deals you can find in audio, right up there with the SM57 and a few others.
while it's frustrating that there's no black and white answer to "which one should I buy" I love that your ethics push you to telling people NOT to put themselves in financial debt. Our true value is in the COMMUNITY. WE. BUILD. 👍😁❤ It truly is about diminishing returns. And knowing your environment. e.g. My Sennheiser MKE 600 works amazingly well for TEAMS / ZOOM / FB (in my "home office" in the garage with walls about 10 feet away ... hell people can't even hear the washing machine or tumble-dryer that's just 6-8 feet away) / TH-cam-with-sound-treatment (i.e. soft velvet drape to stop the harsh echoes from a glass French-door just 3-4 feet away). I've always loved your content and the advice you give people - even in old vids like this one! I hope you and the family are good -- keep up the good work, Curtis :)
I'm a longtime audio engineer. Nice job on the overview. One you may want to check out (if you haven't already) as a "budget" mic is the AKG C1000s. It's one of the most versatile mics in my mic closet. For under $200 you get a small diaphragm cardioid OR hypercardioid condenser with onboard battery power, if needed. It has a great response curve, super low self-noise, low handling noise, is ridiculously sturdy, and works well indoor on a boom, although I've used it as an on-camera mic as well.
The Takstar mic has the most awful mechanical resonance. The shock mount does nothing. It's not usable on top of a camera unless you put it on a mic stand and do not touch it.
@@curtisjudd I am thinking of buying the MKE 600 instead of NTG4+ and I wish you had included in your review/thiughts. So confusing...so many mics, so little money :)
Useful information. I bought my mics (Sennheiser 416, Pearl MS-8, DPA 4060's) boom (Panamic) and windshields (Rycote) in good used condition. Saved a ton of money with no sacrifice in quality or reliability.
Be careful with the oktava. Great mics, if you find the Russian made mics. After they got popular, they eventually started manufacturing in China although they advertised, made in Russia, and thus the quality went down.
Oh man, I just bought an 8050,a pair of 8090's and a MixPre6 and I'm HYPED! You've been a massive help in getting me to finally pull the trigger Curtis, thanks for all that you do for the community!!
10:06 The NTG-2 is quite effective for condenser microphones, but you have to remember that when powered by AA batteries, the efficiency drops by 6dB. In addition, it should be remembered that the H4n does not have very good preamps, they have quite a high level of self-noise.
Great stuff as always! Been wonderful seeing you continue to add value to the community and improve your craft. Would love to see you review the Sennheiser e614 for dialog. Cheers and blessings in 2020 and beyond!
You know when you have a TV series on DVD and you rewatch episodes. Your TH-cam videos are just like that. I've seen this video 4 or 5 times, but it has loads of rewatch value.
Love your work Curtis. BTW, if you add in a 0:00 to your timestamp you'll get Video Chapters which might help people navigate to the category they want quicker, just a suggestion, FWIW. They were not available when you released the video.
Soo cool video😍 . I am a very low buget filmmaker with a around 1200 dollar camera and a Boya By mm1 as mic 😂 So i would buy one of these 3 Mics: Samson c02 (it would be cool to have 2 mics for two boompole operators), T.Bone 9900 ( actually i dont like t. Bone ) , Sony ECM-674 , wich one would you recommend me ? I would use it indoors and outdoor with a deadcat for a low buget movie production. So I am 13 and have to buy it myself, so the price playes a huge role and my next birthday is next year again 😂 And also wich recorder would I need for them, right now i have the zoom h2n and this one has no XLR inputs. Thank you 😊
If you need a microphone for your current recorder, I would instead suggest the RODE VideoMic NTG: th-cam.com/video/c4Pu72J5BRE/w-d-xo.html or for an even more affordable option, I will have a review for the Takstar SG-600 coming on Sunday. The secret for both is to get them off of the camera and close to the person talking: th-cam.com/video/TUEmQBZKoBs/w-d-xo.html
Thanks Daniel. No, I only used the MKE600 once. My recollection is that the Senneheiser is far brighter - too bright on some voices whereas the DEITY is a bit more neutral.
Very useful and informative. For a upper end budget/mid range mic, check out the Sennheiser ME66. I think I mentioned it in a comment on one of your older videos. You have to get the capsule and power module separate but you can get a power model to run it off +48V phantom power (K6P) or one that will run it off a single AA battery (K6) and with the battery option you could plug it into a 3.5mm jack. I have been using one a for around 4 years with a Tascam DR-100 MKII audio recorder and a Tascam 701D. Build quality is quite good. It has a low self noise (10db (A)), and is sensitive (50 mV/Pa). For voices I find it can work well and haven't noticed any self noise in my recordings, although personally I would have liked a little more low end bass than it has. I use mine for talking head shots and mostly outdoor ambient natural recordings. My only issue is that it can sometimes pick up too much sound. I once took a recording in a field one morning of birds and I picked up the hum of a wind turbine over 1200-1500 ft away across 2 fields and I didn't hear the turbine hum until normalising the audio when editing it. Also picked up chicken clucks from a farm around a similar distance away. It can also have an issue with a hum in the audio if the screw on the power module is slightly loose and not tightened fully. I also have the MKH-416 and find it is a great mic overall, smoother in the highs and more bass than the ME66. Best mic I have used for voice over as my voice has more high frequencies in it and mics which boost some high frequencies too much can sound a little harsh on my voice but this didn't and sounded smooth and natural. I tried it for ambient outdoor recordings with my Tascam 701D to see if it would work as a replacement for my Sennheiser ME66, but in all my audio recordings, especially in quieter locations, I had some noticeable self noise in the recordings . I tried plugging in a FetHead Phantom with it to see if that would lower the self noise, but couldn't get it to pick up any sound with it plugged in to either my Tascam DR-100MKII or 701D. The MKH-416 sensitivity is 25 mV/Pa with slightly higher self noise than the ME66 so that could have been why I got the hiss whereas with the ME66, I didn't notice it. I am trying to find a low self noise, high sensitivity stereo mic for ambient outdoor recordings.
I had the ME66, I started out with it as one of my first mics! I guess for a beginner back then it kinda made sense? Maybe. Not a huge fan of it, aside from the fact it was hotter than my weak NTG2. I reckon in this day and age though we're spoiled with much better choices such as the Deity S Mic 2 or the Rode NTG5, I just can't possibly recommend anybody to buy new a ME66
Just got a great deal on a Rode NTG3. Your reviews here and elsewhere were instrumental in making the choice for my budget. I'm officially turning into a sound nerd so I didn't know who else to share my excitement with besides you! Although I did just see an older review you did on the NTG5, only after I got the NTG3. While I wish I had gotten the NTG5 now, I'm not at all unhappy with the NTG3 purchase and I'm sure it will serve me well.
Curtis, nice job as usual! Is it possible for you to do a test on those Rode TF 5's you have? I would like to know how they sound indoors for dialouge...as a single mic...as a pair recording 2 or more people...how are they at off axis...how do they handle reflective sounds. Thanks so much! Stu
Hi Stu, I don't have an extensive test of the TF5s but here is an episode which was recorded with the TF5 as a start: th-cam.com/video/Bt3BnZwR9iM/w-d-xo.html
Very thorough video full of solid info. A minor point re 8050, the rear module is not a preamp like on a DPA or Schoeps, it is only an XLR adapter with a couple impedance matching resistors in it. The main module is both a capsule and a preamp. This is why the rear module can be replaced with different connection accessories from Sennheiser, Cinela, and Kortwitch.
Thanks Curtis, always super helpful! I'm the discount audio guy in KC...Could definitely get into a 416 and 8050.....didn't realize there were mics just for indoor recording. I'm just running a pair of Sennheiser ME66 shotguns and have served me well. Have a Zoom F6 in the bag and this seems like a good next step to up the audio game. Always appreciate your insight.
Love your presentation style , Not a hint of delivery contempt in a industry full of overbearing "Gearheads", I've been in the Pro TV Bis in New Zealand for over 20yrs, I run a location bag doing everything from large TVCs, Docos, Run 'n' Gun reality through to drama , I have a home V/O and music studio , running Protools and have 25 yrs out in the field experience with massive OB's ( Onsite Board-casts )of every sporting nature , Matched with 5 plus yrs of post cutting dialogue and FX editing and Atmos laying etc, so I am a heavyweight in terms of the industry standard mics used at pro audio level. I'm a Sanken CS3 boy at heart, out in the field, could listen to that puppy all day long without my ears bleeding when on set for 12 hours. Love my go-to MKH 50 , It's so forgiving in a large IV on those days when you are not quick enough. Have used just about every mic under the sun for Location and OB shoots, even still have an old pre 416 era - ME88 I'd likened to a laser beam with pin point accuracy.. Great in real nosy BG's environments. Listening to your considered evaluation of mics from entry level through to pro , You hit the mark and it rings true and demonstrates a lot of Cred and huge experience that only comes from years out in the field, of trying, purchasing , and been thrown under the bus moments when your gear dies on you. I feel a newbie to the industry can shortcut the process BIG-time following your channel , Even an Oldie like me, might have learn a few things / tricks from you... Just saying..... Thank you for your channel ...K
I was fortunate enough to purchase a second hand MKH416 for £300 because it was T Powered. Bought a 48v to 12T adapter for £50. Best purchase I've ever made. This microphone is a miracle worker. The distance it can pick up clean audio is amazing. So look out for any T powered 416s. A fraction of the price for the same microphone.
Hey Curtis! Was looking for a mic that I can attach to my camera-I have a Sony FX3 with the XLR adapter. I wanted a mic for outdoor and indoor vlogging (some handheld, some on a tripod 5-6ft away. I was looking at the deity s-mic2s but was wondering if it’s still a good option if it’s not boomed. Wanted to know your thoughts before I pulled the trigger. Price isn’t really an issue if you have other recs!
@@BunnyMuffins No. There are two types of water/moisture resistance to consider and neither are cheap. The DEITY S-Mic 2's circuit board is sealed so if you get the microphone wet, It generally will not be ruined. However, if its capsule gets wet, it may not record well until you let it dry out for several hours. The other type of resistance comes with RF Bias microphones which tend to do a bit better if moisture condenses on the capsule. But they're not necessarily water proof, meaning, if you drop it in water, it may likely be ruined. However, they do tend to do well if a bit of moisture condenses on the capsule such as when in a very humid environment when you go from an air conditioned space to outdoors. The least expensive RF Bias microphone of which I'm aware is the RODE NTG5. And the best known RF Bias shotgun microphone is the Sennheiser MKH-416.
Hey Curtis, great work as always. I've been looking at the Sanken CS-M1 to be used as an on-camera and indoor boom mic and it seems to have got a lot of amazing reviews for both use cases, but it's $1200 CD so kinda pricey. Do you have any other recommendations for XLR shotguns that would be suitablefor outside as well as indoor boomed for interviews etc?
Judd you are amazing and always put me in bad position hhhhhh I decided to order oktava today , but after i saw this i changed my mind to buy audio tehnca at4053b for not waste time for upgrading soon! i use now shure sm7b but i feel not comfortable of stick mic near to my mouth all time when i play gaming as a content creator I want booming mic to feel more comfortable , so what u think ? i afraid of being shoked of sound quality after i left sm7b and switch to booming mic , so who have better sound as sm7b at4053b or octava ??? I hope you read Thanks 🙏
In terms of sheer quality, the Audio Technica is my choice. Neither the AT nor the Octava will sound exactly like a close-mic'd SM7B, but they will sound more natural. For gaming, the challenge will be to keep the noise in your room down. Gaming rigs are often pretty noisy with all those fans or pumps.
Great video. Recently got the chance to use a Schoeps miniCMIT. After years of using 416s it really blew me away like the DPA 4017b does. Definitely worth a look.
While I understand that you have separated into price categories, adding "pro" after the $600 category is a bit peculiar as Rode themself describe the NTG5 as more or less superior to the NTG3 with less self noise and the same RF bias design, while also being way more sensitive. I don't own either, but am in the market for a new all-round mic now, and your content is very helpful.
My basic package is the AT 4053b for interior work, and the Rode NTG3 for outside. But I've used the MKH 50, and that is a better sound. But at twice the price. Rode offers a 10 year warranty, which is something to note as well. Another great review, thanks!
17:17 unfortunately the Rode NTG-5 has major quality issues. Had to return both due to RF interferences. I replaced both NTG-5 with the MKH 416 to have a reliable mic in any situations.
Great overview. Thanks. One word of warning to folks about the Oktava mics.... I've owned 5 of them, and I have 2 left. The others all died. They're great sounding mics, but they're very VERY fragile. I tend to be a little rough with my gear out in the field (not deliberately, but out of circumstance) but everything survives the punishment.... except for the Oktavas. Handle with care, guys. Sadly, I won't be buying any more of them. No point for me. Thanks again.
I had to use a Samson C02 for my first ever feature film :( :( Because the Oktava broke! And I was overseas for the entire month of the film being shot. Luckily I had that C02 spare with me as a back up! (ALWAYS HAVE BACK UPS!)
@@SoundSpeeding Yeah, they're terrific sounding, versatile mics (I've recorded voice and entire orchestras with them) but they're not as robust as they look. It's like handing china ceramics! Pity.
@@SoundSpeedingtriple redundancy. If sound does not work, nothing happens. I had a shoot a while back and the GPS got me very lost. I had to call the director for directions (out in the sticks) and when I showed up 1/2 late, I was the least popular guy on set that day.
Masterpiece of a video! So insightful! Which mic would you recommend for booming indoor talking head videos to a MixPre recorder? AT4053b? Was hoping that the MKH416 could be used all around but seemed like you didn’t recommend it for indoor use.
Great subject! I'm just starting out in filmmaking after a 25 year break- 16mm film and a tascam tape deck lol. I was wondering about the Samson C02 -- could I use that for my no/micro budget short filmmaking? Interior shooting only. I'm buying a second hand DR 60MKII for recorder FYI.
Another great review. I really appreciate your coverage Curtis. As an owner of most of the top end mics you’ve covered here, I actually agree with your opinion on almost all of them. I was kinda hoping to see a review of the Sanken CS-M1 in here somewhere as I’m contemplating a purchase soon but, as you said, you don’t have every microphone. You did a great job at covering something for everyone so thanks for making this video
Hi again Curtis, I finally can save some money to upgrade from my Samson C02.. As now my channel going towards ASMR unboxing and maybe some Mukbang/eating content, I'm considering buying Rode NT5 or NT1a. Rode NT1a has a very good noise floor compare to NT5 (about 11dB different). But, my room is not fully soundproofed so sometimes I got a motorcycle passing my house. Samson C02 did a very good job reducing that noise but the self noise as you know is very noticeable as I increase the gain in post. The question is, which one should I get? NT1a and NT5 have the same cardioid pattern and are not as good as Samson c02 for reducing environmental noise. but does the size of the diaphragm make it more pronounced to noise?
Hi adimology, I don't know that there is a difference based on my practical experience. The NT1a is very clean so if that's high on the priority list, I'd probably look at the NT1a. Best wishes and happy recording!
Curtis, thank for another awesome "Product Comparison". My primary Boom/Shotgun Mic is the Sennheiser MKH 416. I am actually the third owner oof this Mic as it was purchased in the late 1970's. The original owner was a onsite Production Video Sennheiser as the End Cap was missing (Did not really effect anything but looked Un-
Have have read much about boom microphones and I have been into buying a ntg5,ntg3 or mkh417 but I’m almost only records inside in corporate place I know considering the mkh50 or mkh8050 or schopes. This video helped me to understand and also change my mind.
Your opinion please... Booming indoor interviews....I have Sennheiser 416 and want something similar. Would Deity S-Mic 2 be close to the 416...budget is $400 ish. Thanks for your time and love all your videos. I enrolled in Zoom F4 and F8 and you’ve helped a camera guy do audio.
Curtis Judd I think your channel is the most professional on yt! But i’ve a question... i’ve the bad couple, Ntg 2 and Zoom H4n. I could sell the Zoom H4n, and After the Ntg2 also, because i want a multi porpose mic (in and outdoor) and a good recorder too. All this stuff for a sort of one man band filmaking or really hold crew... looking this vid the verter choice seems to be for me (keeping in mind the recorder’s expense) the Deity S-Mic 2S or the Rode NTG3. What do you think is best to do? And why is so a bad couple Ntg2+Zoomh4n? They sound orrible :/ now i look your video about best Recorders in 2019 :)
Thanks for making these. Between your ASMR voice, and the actual content and explanations, your videos are wonderful. I’m getting into interview shoots, and fairly new to audio. I think you (and others) have sold me on the Oktava, but I’m unsure on which capsule for indoor interviews. The one you have in this video is apparently the cardioid, but from what I gather, the hypercardioid is more ideal for what I need, and you mention this here as well, so I’m unclear which of the two I should go for?
Absolutely super useful video. It has clarified a few things for me and confirmed my view of my NTG4+. You could easily split it into two videos too. Big thanks again, Curtis!
Might be a dumb question but I’m trying to decide on a shotgun mic for my fs72. Here are my options 1. Rode NTG2 2. Samson C02 Pencil Condenser Microphones (Pair) 3. Sony ecm-ms2
Hi Adrian, I haven't used the Sony so not sure about that one. The NTG2 requires quite a lot of gain so if this is mainly for scratch audio, that would probably be your best bet. It is the most directional as well.
Hello Curtis, I watched many of your videos but I have a questions and don't have anybody to ask except you. You have so perfect sound. The best on youtube! My issue is I'm having saliva sounds shen I do my VO. I drink water, I work hard to avoid it and it's less present because of that but I see some people who don't even train to speak, they don't have it at all. I wondered maybe I do something wrong, I repositioned my AT2050 multiple time, so now it reaches me from the top (like a shotgun mic would), I hear much less of the saliva but I've lost so much of high frequences + got more of my vocal booth reflections (it's ok but not completly dead perfect yet) on my recording. Am I doing anything wrong? Do I need a different mic? Are there some techniques to conquer these mouse soudns or what? Thanks if you reply, I respect your opinion so much and trust your experience a lot!
Hi Голос, I have this issue too, especially with large diaphragm condenser microphones when I'm speaking very closely to the mic. This is partly because these microphones can capture the higher frequencies more effectively, they have far higher fidelity than dynamic microphones. Also, boom microphones are usually far away enough that they are less likely to pick up these mouth noises when boomed 40cm away from the mouth. From what I can tell, distance is one of the most effective ways to reduce pickup of these sounds. Further treatment of your vocal booth and moving the mic just a little bit away, this might help a bit. I hope this helps a little bit. Very best wishes!
Hi, this is a great and very informative video. I especially liked the buying advice you provided at the end. The mic I wanted, the Sennheiser MKE 600, wasn't mentioned, but I was wondering if you were familiar with it and would recommend it?
Hi Brandon, thanks. I have only use the MKE 600 one time and do not own it so I didn't feel like I knew it well enough to really speak about it here. My impression is that it has very bright, crisp voicing which can be good on some voices, but probably not best for sibilant voices. Best wishes!
I think something that should be mentioned about the MK-012 is that even with a good shockmount if you don't tie your cables near the male XLR end you'll get some sort of resonance. Literally just takes an elastic, velcro cable tie, or anything you can use to keep the cable still. Also ALWAYS buy the MK-012 new because the 90's-early 00's ones had some issues, but the recent ones are great.
Is the Sennheiser MKH 8050 still your first choice for indoor recordings? I have upgraded to the Zoom F6 recorder and for outdoor recording the Sennheiser MKH 416. I am ready to upgrade from the AT 4053b for indoor recording. I frequently have the indoor mic on a boom stand stationary between two actors rather than trying to have my volunteer boom mic operator twist the boom mic back and forth between the two actors. Would the MKH 8050 be a good choice or would the CMC641 be better. The other considerations are radio frequency interference as I have been in even homes with many wireless devices that produce RF interference and if everything else is equal, then resistance to high humidity would be a plus. A microphone failure could result in the loss of hundreds of dollars of actors' time.
Ok, no worries if you can’t answer, but I’m getting too much room noise in my audio with the Deity S-Mic2 and have heavily been recommended the Sennheiser MKH 50. To my ears, it seems like that’d be a great option, but there are so few reviews/comparisons that it’s so hard to know. Everyone swears by the MKH 416, but I’m thinking it might not be the best either because it’s also a shotgun. Oh man, the options are endless…
The solution to managing room noise is to get rid of it by turning off things that don’t need to be on and using isolation to keep it from getting to the mic. The MKH 50 or 416 aren’t probably going to make a night-and-day difference to the DEITY.
One little detail which would be of interest to potential buyers: When showing us the Røde NTG4+ you printed the correct name on screen, and I believe everything you said about it was correct. Except that verbally you only called it the “NTG4” and omitted the “+” in the name, and unfortunately that's a different version of the microphone which doesn’t have the battery option. I only wanted to mention this so that people don’t get confused and buy the wrong version.
Hey Curtis, this is such a great video. A truly valuable resource for filmmakers and audio techs. One question for you...if you were to pick an on camera mic for your c200 for run n gun doc work what would it be? I would be looking for something in the $700 - $1700 range. Currently using an ntg 3, but might prefer something a little shorter and came across the sennheiser 8060, sanken cs-1, and the schoeps cmc 641. Any experience with these mics? Any others I should look in to? Hope you are doing well!
Hey Griffin, thanks. I'd probably look at the 8060 or CS-1. They're not as directional as longer shotguns but will be a little lighter. You might see if you can rent one from Trew or Location Sound Corp first to see if you like it.
Nice video! I am currently recording free guitar lessons on my channel and looking for the best mic for the iPhone and am currently using the Shure MV88. What would you recommend for the best mic for recording voice and instrument together?
Hi Curtis... have you ever covered the stands / mounts / connectors for your shotguns & booms in the studio? What are the wooden looking connectors and mounts you have in this video? I’d like to know the details of how you rig your mice and what equipment is out there. Thanks!
REQUEST - Can you help me make a decision 1. Rode NTG 2. Sennheiser MKE 600 Which one would you recommend, for inside the studio videos on a boom pole connected to the camera using an extension
The MKH 50 and CMC641 are by far my favorites. I remember the first time a heard the Schoeps wen i was working as a intern on a post production company... it just blow me away. I imideatly just grab the phone and call the location team to ask what microfone they used XD
@@creativegreatsvisuals yeah i do. At this price range, it's more about the "flavor" than "this one is better than that one"... i fell like the MKH50 make things sound "bigger" and the CMC sounds more like "real life" to me. It is a pretty subjective thing, so you need to try both to see which one you prefer, but those 2 are absolutely incredible mics
@@creativegreatsvisuals I didn't check the frequency response charts but by ear, I feel that the mkh50 have a little spike on 8~10k and more bass on 30~100hz region. I think those two make it sound "bigger"
I have an Audix uem-81 and an old Sennheiser K3-u and both sound pretty good in my opinion. The sennheiser served many years as part of an eng rig for a local tv station before it ended up in my kit bag but it still works great.
👍 If it sounds great, it is great! Good to hear that an older microphone is still working well. That's the great thing about microphones, a good one is easily worth its price because it can work well for so many years.
@@curtisjudd that is very true. I saved the K3 and a Cartoni carbon fiber tripod from the trash because my boss said they weren't worth keeping. Both were part of an old eng setup at a tv station I used to work for.
You are so well versed on microphones. Thanks for sharing such wisdom. Would you say that in interview settings a boom microphone is always better sounding than lavs? ie comparing the best dpa lav with the best dpa boom microphone to be fair.
Hi Mark, my experience is that a boom mic almost always sounds more natural but sometimes a Lav mic helps reject a bit more ambient sound/noise. My preference is for a boom, but I usually use both and choose one in post.
I agree with Curtis, ALWAYS use both, unless you've got *extremely* EXCEPTIONAL circumstances. The only two examples I can personally think of that I did last year (and I do a *lot* of sound recording, so as a percentage, two times is indeed very rare) was: 1) doing EFP on Avatar, the PSM had no spare frequencies whatsoever to give to me so I wasn't allowed to use wireless. Did the interview with my hardwired boom, in hindsight I should have brought along a hardwired lav mic as well (or perhaps the Deity Connect Wireless, which shares the WiFi spectrum so I feel they probably couldn't have objected to that) & 2) when we had some crazy number of people to interview in an extremely short space of time (can't quite recall, something like a dozen people in a couple of hours? Plus all of them non-actor civies) thus I made the judgement call to just go with a boom.
@@curtisjuddLOL, me too. I love giving the editor a choice. As you know,I like my Tascam DR 10L. They can be a lifesaver. I did one shoot where the chef was using a grill. You can imagine the noise, heat, grease, etc. I laved him up under his T shirt, worked well.
Hey Curtis! First thing is I love your videos! They are so informative and helped me move forward with my latest purchase, MixPre-6 II! I love it! But, can I ask a question? I use a Rode Videomic NTG and love it. I shoot with a Sony A7iii and I use the Videomic NTG with my Wireless Go, which provides a nice little wireless setup. But I am having some trouble setting up the gain structure on the NTG, the Wireless Go & on the Mix-Pre since all the devices have their own adjustable gain. I’m trying to take advantage of the 32-bit to help, but also realize that audio clipping can occur from the mic source and if that happens, it’s unrepairable. How would you setup the gain for all of these devices in when using them together? Without the Mixpre, I was doing A7iii at mic preamp at its lowest level, 1, Wireless Go at its lowest level and NTG from 7-10, this worked well. With the Mixpre added in the mix (pun intended, haha) that hasn’t worked well for some reason. Do you have any recommendations in optimizing this setup to take advantage of 32-bit float?
Hi Timothy, thanks for the question. I would normally start with the microphone and get its gain optimized first. So I'd plug that into the GO transmitter. I'd set the GO's input level to 1/2 way and then adjust the gain on the NTG until the meters are peaking around -12dB. Then I'd set the output level on the receiver to its max or middle setting and adjust the input on the MixPre until the meters there are also peaking around -12dB. It can be a little crazy when you have several gain stages, but the main idea is to gain up at the start and hopefully not have to do much gain later in the chain. Best wishes and happy recording!
Somewhat on topic, if I may. Using Davnci and the Fairlight module, to what standard should our setting be? There is an actual NETLIX standard listed in the dropdown. What would be best for TH-cam? Tnx Curtis, I follow you and have taken your fine course on using F8n.
I would personally target -16 LUFS for content that is primarily spoken word. TH-cam will allow you to go as loud as -14 LUFS, but for spoken word, that doesn't leave much in the way of dynamic range.
Do you have your eye on the a7siii? I'd love to hear a test comparison by you on the xlr-k3m hot shoe adapter vs. mix pre series on a purely audio quality point of view (obviously, the mix pre can do things the adapter can't). I'm getting ready to do a deep dive, and up to this point the mix pre has been the obvious audio recorder of choice for me.
Thank you for the very informative video and for sharing your audio wisdom Curtis. I was about to purchased the Samson CO2 for indoor podcasting, however, I recently discovered the Behringer C2. Could you please share your observations between these two pencil condenser mic?
Great effort. Good comparison. I want to go with Rode NT 5 for indoor dialogue for my budget. I want to set this mic on a boom pole and record audio on a separate recorder . Which audio recorder and XLR cable would you recommend ( budget friendly ). I have Zoom H 1 , but I think it doesn’t work. Thank you
Hi there! I’ve been watching videos of microphones and audio gears for about 50 hours now. It seems I'm hopeless. (But I'm still enthusiastic.) I presume you haven’t got much time to answer silly questions of fans, yet I hope you can help me with this:) I work as an actress and I’m up to set up my home studio (corona virus as leading cause…but actually I've always wanted to have one). I'd like to find a mic which can provide a relatively high quality sound for 1. audiobook recordings (at the first place but possibly for any other voice overs on the long run) 2. making videos (containing: me reading literature. Poems, short storys etc.) In details: -Voice over: I think I’m going to have that focusrite scarlett solo. And I use a mac pro (Should I be careful with compatibility issues? Please let me know.:) Booth is in the process of being made. -Filming: I would shoot in untreated environments (such as my attic, my garden etc.some background noise is ok as long as it lets the text do what it can). Not many plans recently just sit there and read :D The microphone should be unseen of course. I’m considering of spending about 300$ on this equipment. (Including Mic+interface. I’m quite serious about the thing however I can’t afford spending too much on it yet.) Watching all these videos my last consideration was a shotgun mic, but after I saw you comparing one with a mic used for voiceovers I got confused…maybe it wasn’t even a shotgun…I'm confused anyway. Although I spent much time to learn from you and your fellow audio junkies (and gosh I highly appreciate your work, should have mentioned that at the first place). So this is the point when I start to beg. Could you please tell me would a shotgun mic serve well for this purpose? Or rather a pencil one? Or should I just hang a condenser studio one overhead if I want to use it for filming? Sorry for my dullness . Cheers
Nice job of covering the different microphones. I have looked through your channel I don't see a review of the Rode NTG8 nor one for the Sennheiser MKH8060 although you have reviewed the Sennheiser MKH 8050. Have you done reviews on the NTG8 or 8060?
"the Rode NTG8 nor one for the Sennheiser MKH8060 " Those are two VERY different mics. Would be better to say instead: "the Rode NTG3 vs the Sennheiser MKH8060 " In brief, the NTG3 is the knock off of the 416, and the MKH8060 is the modern update (the 2nd! MKH60 was the first) of the 416 Or, to ask: "the Rode NTG8 vs Sennheiser MKH8070 " In brief, the NTG8 is the knock off of the 816, and the MKH8070 is the modern update (the 2nd! MKH70 was the first) of the 816 My additional comment is basically nobody uses long shotguns any longer on a regular basis, they were most popular in the bad old days (or should I say... good old days?? Hmmm... maybe it was better then without wireless! haha) of no wireless. The other reason is technology has advanced since the days of the 816, lots of 816 owners sold theirs after the CS3 got launched. Although if you've got a truck full of just sound kit for working on big budget drama shows, then yeah, it is worth having a long shotgun as an option.
Great mic collection and discussion! I enjoyed a Neumann KMR81 shotgun for many years, and sold it for a small profit within an hour of posting online a few years ago. Lovely sound, but seems to have fallen off the general radar in many sound circles: I guess Sennheiser do much of the heavy lifting in that brand family.
Thanks Alex! Yes, it is interesting how in the sound for film space, we don't see a lot more Neumann gear, especially since they're manufactured by Sennheiser.
Great complete review i completely agree with you about the mics i know. Which shockmount would you recommand for the Oktava mk012 (i always have problems with this one!). A review of stereo mics and couples would be great as well !!
Hi Aliocha, I'd look at something like this: www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/554998-REG/Rycote_041106_INV_6_InVision_Indoor_Microphone.html?sts=pi&pim=Y
Wow, great review! So many microphones. I want to start with sampling (let's say marbles in a bowl). Which microphone (and accessories) would you recommend?
Did you ever get the chance to run some AB test between the mkh50 and the neumann km185? I could test the 2 side by side on a talent once and i was the sound editor in that occasion, but i can’t find those files anymore and i can’t remember exactly what the difference was... I’m considering buying an indoor mic since I’m not renting much lately for I’m working more and more for myself rather than for actual productions... I just can’t remember if I thought the km185 was good enough (so that i can save some bucks haha). As always, great videos man!
Thanks Andrew. No, I own the 8050 and have never had a chance to use the km185. I have used the 50. In any case, I think a case could be made for any of these mics - all good in their own ways. The 50 has a more aggressive sound to my ear, the 8050 is smoother with a bit more of a dip in the mid frequencies.
Hi , i love these types of videos 🤗, could you make a review about synco g2 wireless microphone, and saramonic uwmic9s ? 🙂 (Maybe some boya shotgun microphones?)
Thanks Norbi! I tried the Saramonic system a few years back and opted not to review it as the two kits I had both produced persistent, annoying clicking sounds. So I don't recommend that option. I'll see about reviews of the others. Thanks!
I've been using a Sony ECM-678 for almost 10 years now and wondered what you thought of that one... I am looking to upgrade to something better now, as I am not completely happy with the Sony. Your video here has really helped me make some good choices.
Jump ahead:
00:27 Introduction
02:05 Camera-top Shotgun Microphones
08:50 Less than $300 USD XLR Shotgun Microphones
12:46 $300 - $599 USD XLR Shotgun Microphones
19:24 $600 USD+ Pro Level Shotgun Microphones
24:08 Indoor Boom Microphones
24:46 ~$100 USD Cardioid Boom Microphones
25:50 $200 - $499 USD Cardioid Boom Microphones
29:27 $500 USD+ Professional Cardioid Boom Microphones
36:37 Bonus - Matched Pair Stereo Microphones
37:43 Buying Advice
Curtis Judd Still rocking my AT4053b. I LOVE IT!!!
Rad! Keep making great sound!
A little index for your viewing pleasure.
fresh new intro! 👍🏼👀
Very much appreciate this.
I love your content but rarely comment on videos. So, here's a shout-out as a representative of all those silent watchers who get excited each time you put out a video but don't necessarily give you any feedback. Happy 2020!
Thanks Shawn! Good to hear from you and have a happy 2020!
Spoke my mind literally. Now let's hunt down those downvoters!
I love this video. It's a consolidation of years of your work and knowledge. Really appreciate you taking the time to put this together and sharing this information.
EDIT: PS Thank you for saying "do not go into debt to buy these microphones". I am so happy you said that, it's something that I think a lot of folks don't think about.
Thanks Bandrew! Honored that you watched :)
I might go into debt after watching this video... thanks a lot Curtis. ;-)
@@SoundSpeeds Hahaha! You have been warned, friend!
I was able to get everything I needed out of this video within 4 minutes thanks to the stellar labeling and price ranging to let me only watch the part that's applicable to what I need. Good show, I love following channels who respect their followers!
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So refreshing to hear from an expert that knows how to teach. Best mic review I can remember; and with no audio samples. Awesome. Instant fan.
Thanks Richard.
Great video, sometimes people just want to know which mic the pros love!
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Hey @curtisjudd what a quality video, thanks for doing this. I'm interested in the MKH 8050, I'm curious what kind of setup you use with it. Any wind protection, and perhaps most importantly, do you use a specific shock mount with it?
Damn you got a nice mic collection! Thanks for the detailed explanation Curtis.
Thanks Tom. I’m a sound nerd. 😀
Great rundown as usual. In my opinion, for low budgets, Rode NTG-2 should get discontinued. Low sensitivity with rattling battery compartment makes it unusable for booming around, the xlr in itself wobbles and has harsh cutting spikes. At work, a second new replacement is being sent back due to bad connection out of the box, need extra amps to get it to work with such as entry Zoom recorders.
Medium budgets, the AT4053B and NTG-3 just as you describe. Many pros have it as a backup as it works every time.
Medium High, I can recommend the Sanken CSM1 (small and light for indoor and outdoor) Phantom power only.
Thanks for the insights, Mauricio!
Great coverage! Makes me comfortable with my choices, some of which came from your recommendations. Thanks!
My pleasure!
Same here
I really need that RF Bias technology ... Saigon is very wet. Not in my budget, but maybe in future.
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Thanks for giving the Octava its proper due - it continues to impress me(hypercardioid). I've kind of stopped thinking about boom mics since discovering how good it is. You'd have to spend a lot more to do better. It benefits from the Rycote Inv 6 or the mixpre's 80Hz high pass. Don't use the highpass module that comes with the Octava - it kills all that wonderful low end.
Thanks for the details on the Oktava Mike!
Great video. BUT for Schoeps and humidity : on the contrary, take out the capsule on the microphone well before shooting, and let it get used to the humidity. After 5-10min the whistling and crackling will be over, and you can start recording ;)
Thanks Gauthier.
Love the layout of this vid Brutha.
Thanks D4!
Great video, Curtis! As usual. Thank you!
If you haven't done so already, here's a topic that you may want to consider creating a video about: XLR cables. If I hadn't done my own tests, I'd have guessed they'd all be pretty much the same, but boy was I proven wrong. For example I have two Mogami (Neglex) XLR cables, but with two different model numbers. One is very warm and the other is way more open and transparent with beautiful HF coming through. As far as recording dialogue goes - and mostly for those reading this who don't do any post-processing for your videos - XLR cables can really make a huge difference in the overall sound quality of your microphones. So, try different models, if you have the budget, to find what's right for you.
Thanks Paul, good idea!
whats the best xlr cables for the Schoeps CMC 6 and cmit mics ?
Great informative concise education vid that balances info vs opinion - thanks, Curtis. You consistently deliver on your YT influencer status in audio for video.
Thanks SilverSulu! Appreciate the feedback!
It's amazing, the Samson C02's were some of the first mics I ever got, back when I was a teenager. I thought of them as 'budget' and just what I could afford then. But with age, I've realized that they've more than stood the test of time. Still one of the best deals you can find in audio, right up there with the SM57 and a few others.
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Thank you. Looking forward to the lav mic edition!
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while it's frustrating that there's no black and white answer to "which one should I buy" I love that your ethics push you to telling people NOT to put themselves in financial debt. Our true value is in the COMMUNITY. WE. BUILD. 👍😁❤
It truly is about diminishing returns. And knowing your environment. e.g. My Sennheiser MKE 600 works amazingly well for TEAMS / ZOOM / FB (in my "home office" in the garage with walls about 10 feet away ... hell people can't even hear the washing machine or tumble-dryer that's just 6-8 feet away) / TH-cam-with-sound-treatment (i.e. soft velvet drape to stop the harsh echoes from a glass French-door just 3-4 feet away).
I've always loved your content and the advice you give people - even in old vids like this one! I hope you and the family are good -- keep up the good work, Curtis :)
Thanks so much and keep making great sound!
I'm a longtime audio engineer. Nice job on the overview. One you may want to check out (if you haven't already) as a "budget" mic is the AKG C1000s. It's one of the most versatile mics in my mic closet. For under $200 you get a small diaphragm cardioid OR hypercardioid condenser with onboard battery power, if needed. It has a great response curve, super low self-noise, low handling noise, is ridiculously sturdy, and works well indoor on a boom, although I've used it as an on-camera mic as well.
Hi Gary, thanks. Will check it out - thanks!
@@curtisjudd have you had a chance to look at this AKG C1000s
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Hey Curtis. Have you ever tried the Sennheiser MKE 600? What are your thoughts on it?
I haven’t, unfortunately. So many mics, so little time...
The Takstar mic has the most awful mechanical resonance. The shock mount does nothing. It's not usable on top of a camera unless you put it on a mic stand and do not touch it.
@@curtisjudd Eyes, lungs, pancreas...
@@curtisjudd I am thinking of buying the MKE 600 instead of NTG4+ and I wish you had included in your review/thiughts. So confusing...so many mics, so little money :)
@@lazyoverworked I've heard the MKE 600 and I used to own the NTG4+. If I had to choose between the two, I'd choose the MKE 600.
Useful information. I bought my mics (Sennheiser 416, Pearl MS-8, DPA 4060's) boom (Panamic) and windshields (Rycote) in good used condition. Saved a ton of money with no sacrifice in quality or reliability.
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Be careful with the oktava. Great mics, if you find the Russian made mics. After they got popular, they eventually started manufacturing in China although they advertised, made in Russia, and thus the quality went down.
Thanks Oscar - good to know!
Oh man, I just bought an 8050,a pair of 8090's and a MixPre6 and I'm HYPED!
You've been a massive help in getting me to finally pull the trigger Curtis, thanks for all that you do for the community!!
Congrats and happy recording!
I was literally just re-watching your older video on the subject. Spooky.
A few updates here. Sorry for the spook. 😀
10:06 The NTG-2 is quite effective for condenser microphones, but you have to remember that when powered by AA batteries, the efficiency drops by 6dB. In addition, it should be remembered that the H4n does not have very good preamps, they have quite a high level of self-noise.
Yes and yes.
@@curtisjudd Other than that, great stuff as usual :)
Great stuff as always! Been wonderful seeing you continue to add value to the community and improve your craft. Would love to see you review the Sennheiser e614 for dialog. Cheers and blessings in 2020 and beyond!
Thanks Dave! Best wishes!
For the more budget shotgun category, the Sennheiser MKE 600 is AMAZING. Good output signal, good all around sound, and About $325. It's my workhorse.
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You know when you have a TV series on DVD and you rewatch episodes. Your TH-cam videos are just like that. I've seen this video 4 or 5 times, but it has loads of rewatch value.
Hahaha! Thanks Eryn. 🤓
Love your work Curtis.
BTW, if you add in a 0:00 to your timestamp you'll get Video Chapters which might help people navigate to the category they want quicker, just a suggestion, FWIW. They were not available when you released the video.
Thanks Jim, just added 00:00. Hopefully that'll work. Thanks!
@@curtisjudd looks like it worked like a charm and thanks again for your videos, you are my go to guy for audio
yes! I was waiting for this one!
Thanks Bugz!
Soo cool video😍 . I am a very low buget filmmaker with a around 1200 dollar camera and a Boya By mm1 as mic 😂 So i would buy one of these 3 Mics: Samson c02 (it would be cool to have 2 mics for two boompole operators), T.Bone 9900 ( actually i dont like t. Bone ) , Sony ECM-674 , wich one would you recommend me ? I would use it indoors and outdoor with a deadcat for a low buget movie production. So I am 13 and have to buy it myself, so the price playes a huge role and my next birthday is next year again 😂 And also wich recorder would I need for them, right now i have the zoom h2n and this one has no XLR inputs. Thank you 😊
If you need a microphone for your current recorder, I would instead suggest the RODE VideoMic NTG: th-cam.com/video/c4Pu72J5BRE/w-d-xo.html or for an even more affordable option, I will have a review for the Takstar SG-600 coming on Sunday. The secret for both is to get them off of the camera and close to the person talking: th-cam.com/video/TUEmQBZKoBs/w-d-xo.html
How on earth is Curtis not well over 500k subs? His content is amazing.
We focus on quality rather than quantity. 😉
GREAT VIDEO !! Any idea how the Sennheiser mke 600 compared to the Deity S-mic2 For indoor dialogue?
Thanks Daniel. No, I only used the MKE600 once. My recollection is that the Senneheiser is far brighter - too bright on some voices whereas the DEITY is a bit more neutral.
NTG3 User ahead. It's an absolute beast and was an upgrade from the Rode Videomicro. Yup, the sound is that much better.
Awesome video btw!
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Very useful and informative. For a upper end budget/mid range mic, check out the Sennheiser ME66. I think I mentioned it in a comment on one of your older videos. You have to get the capsule and power module separate but you can get a power model to run it off +48V phantom power (K6P) or one that will run it off a single AA battery (K6) and with the battery option you could plug it into a 3.5mm jack. I have been using one a for around 4 years with a Tascam DR-100 MKII audio recorder and a Tascam 701D. Build quality is quite good. It has a low self noise (10db (A)), and is sensitive (50 mV/Pa). For voices I find it can work well and haven't noticed any self noise in my recordings, although personally I would have liked a little more low end bass than it has.
I use mine for talking head shots and mostly outdoor ambient natural recordings. My only issue is that it can sometimes pick up too much sound. I once took a recording in a field one morning of birds and I picked up the hum of a wind turbine over 1200-1500 ft away across 2 fields and I didn't hear the turbine hum until normalising the audio when editing it. Also picked up chicken clucks from a farm around a similar distance away. It can also have an issue with a hum in the audio if the screw on the power module is slightly loose and not tightened fully.
I also have the MKH-416 and find it is a great mic overall, smoother in the highs and more bass than the ME66. Best mic I have used for voice over as my voice has more high frequencies in it and mics which boost some high frequencies too much can sound a little harsh on my voice but this didn't and sounded smooth and natural.
I tried it for ambient outdoor recordings with my Tascam 701D to see if it would work as a replacement for my Sennheiser ME66, but in all my audio recordings, especially in quieter locations, I had some noticeable self noise in the recordings . I tried plugging in a FetHead Phantom with it to see if that would lower the self noise, but couldn't get it to pick up any sound with it plugged in to either my Tascam DR-100MKII or 701D. The MKH-416 sensitivity is 25 mV/Pa with slightly higher self noise than the ME66 so that could have been why I got the hiss whereas with the ME66, I didn't notice it. I am trying to find a low self noise, high sensitivity stereo mic for ambient outdoor recordings.
Thanks for the details, Dave, really helpful!
I had the ME66, I started out with it as one of my first mics! I guess for a beginner back then it kinda made sense? Maybe. Not a huge fan of it, aside from the fact it was hotter than my weak NTG2. I reckon in this day and age though we're spoiled with much better choices such as the Deity S Mic 2 or the Rode NTG5, I just can't possibly recommend anybody to buy new a ME66
@@SoundSpeedingAgreed. I had such problems with that mic,I gave mine away.
Just got a great deal on a Rode NTG3. Your reviews here and elsewhere were instrumental in making the choice for my budget. I'm officially turning into a sound nerd so I didn't know who else to share my excitement with besides you! Although I did just see an older review you did on the NTG5, only after I got the NTG3. While I wish I had gotten the NTG5 now, I'm not at all unhappy with the NTG3 purchase and I'm sure it will serve me well.
Congrats on the new microphone, Benjamin! The NTG3 is a great option. Happy recording!
Curtis, nice job as usual! Is it possible for you to do a test on those Rode TF 5's you have? I would like to know how they sound indoors for dialouge...as a single mic...as a pair recording 2 or more people...how are they at off axis...how do they handle reflective sounds.
Thanks so much!
Stu
Hi Stu, I don't have an extensive test of the TF5s but here is an episode which was recorded with the TF5 as a start: th-cam.com/video/Bt3BnZwR9iM/w-d-xo.html
@@curtisjudd i am also interested on a review on the TF5's
For those of us with more limited experience in using or selecting microphones, this is very helpful review. Thank you very much.
Thanks for the feedback, Dan.
Very thorough video full of solid info. A minor point re 8050, the rear module is not a preamp like on a DPA or Schoeps, it is only an XLR adapter with a couple impedance matching resistors in it. The main module is both a capsule and a preamp. This is why the rear module can be replaced with different connection accessories from Sennheiser, Cinela, and Kortwitch.
Thanks for the clarification RallenMan! That's a substantial difference - good to know.
Thanks Curtis, always super helpful! I'm the discount audio guy in KC...Could definitely get into a 416 and 8050.....didn't realize there were mics just for indoor recording. I'm just running a pair of Sennheiser ME66 shotguns and have served me well. Have a Zoom F6 in the bag and this seems like a good next step to up the audio game. Always appreciate your insight.
Thanks Wayne! Keep making great sound!
Bought the Audio Technica AT4053B based on Curtis' review a few years ago...still rocking this mic & might grab another one. Thx Curtis!
👍 Glad to hear it is working well for you!
Love your presentation style , Not a hint of delivery contempt in a industry full of overbearing "Gearheads", I've been in the Pro TV Bis in New Zealand for over 20yrs, I run a location bag doing everything from large TVCs, Docos, Run 'n' Gun reality through to drama , I have a home V/O and music studio , running Protools and have 25 yrs out in the field experience with massive OB's ( Onsite Board-casts )of every sporting nature , Matched with 5 plus yrs of post cutting dialogue and FX editing and Atmos laying etc, so I am a heavyweight in terms of the industry standard mics used at pro audio level.
I'm a Sanken CS3 boy at heart, out in the field, could listen to that puppy all day long without my ears bleeding when on set for 12 hours. Love my go-to MKH 50 , It's so forgiving in a large IV on those days when you are not quick enough. Have used just about every mic under the sun for Location and OB shoots, even still have an old pre 416 era - ME88 I'd likened to a laser beam with pin point accuracy.. Great in real nosy BG's environments. Listening to your considered evaluation of mics from entry level through to pro , You hit the mark and it rings true and demonstrates a lot of Cred and huge experience that only comes from years out in the field, of trying, purchasing , and been thrown under the bus moments when your gear dies on you. I feel a newbie to the industry can shortcut the process BIG-time following your channel , Even an Oldie like me, might have learn a few things / tricks from you... Just saying..... Thank you for your channel ...K
Thanks so much, Kris - means a lot coming from you!
I was fortunate enough to purchase a second hand MKH416 for £300 because it was T Powered. Bought a 48v to 12T adapter for £50. Best purchase I've ever made. This microphone is a miracle worker. The distance it can pick up clean audio is amazing. So look out for any T powered 416s. A fraction of the price for the same microphone.
👍 Nice find. They haven't made those for quite some time.
Hey Curtis! Was looking for a mic that I can attach to my camera-I have a Sony FX3 with the XLR adapter. I wanted a mic for outdoor and indoor vlogging (some handheld, some on a tripod 5-6ft away. I was looking at the deity s-mic2s but was wondering if it’s still a good option if it’s not boomed.
Wanted to know your thoughts before I pulled the trigger. Price isn’t really an issue if you have other recs!
I’d take a look at the Audio Technica AT 875R instead: th-cam.com/video/8NknNRy2uXQ/w-d-xo.html
@@curtisjudd thanks Curtis, does this also have water resistance? I wasn’t able to find anything
@@BunnyMuffins No. There are two types of water/moisture resistance to consider and neither are cheap. The DEITY S-Mic 2's circuit board is sealed so if you get the microphone wet, It generally will not be ruined. However, if its capsule gets wet, it may not record well until you let it dry out for several hours. The other type of resistance comes with RF Bias microphones which tend to do a bit better if moisture condenses on the capsule. But they're not necessarily water proof, meaning, if you drop it in water, it may likely be ruined. However, they do tend to do well if a bit of moisture condenses on the capsule such as when in a very humid environment when you go from an air conditioned space to outdoors. The least expensive RF Bias microphone of which I'm aware is the RODE NTG5. And the best known RF Bias shotgun microphone is the Sennheiser MKH-416.
Curtis thanks for the great video. How about doing a comparison test in terms off floor noise on each of these.
Thanks for the suggestion.
Hey Curtis, great work as always. I've been looking at the Sanken CS-M1 to be used as an on-camera and indoor boom mic and it seems to have got a lot of amazing reviews for both use cases, but it's $1200 CD so kinda pricey. Do you have any other recommendations for XLR shotguns that would be suitablefor outside as well as indoor boomed for interviews etc?
Judd you are amazing and always put me in bad position hhhhhh
I decided to order oktava today , but after i saw this i changed my mind to buy audio tehnca at4053b for not waste time for upgrading soon!
i use now shure sm7b but i feel not comfortable of stick mic near to my mouth all time when i play gaming as a content creator
I want booming mic to feel more comfortable , so what u think ? i afraid of being shoked of sound quality after i left sm7b and switch to booming mic , so who have better sound as sm7b
at4053b or octava ???
I hope you read Thanks 🙏
In terms of sheer quality, the Audio Technica is my choice. Neither the AT nor the Octava will sound exactly like a close-mic'd SM7B, but they will sound more natural. For gaming, the challenge will be to keep the noise in your room down. Gaming rigs are often pretty noisy with all those fans or pumps.
@@curtisjudd my man thnx alot , so ill go with audio technica 👍
Great video. Recently got the chance to use a Schoeps miniCMIT. After years of using 416s it really blew me away like the DPA 4017b does. Definitely worth a look.
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While I understand that you have separated into price categories, adding "pro" after the $600 category is a bit peculiar as Rode themself describe the NTG5 as more or less superior to the NTG3 with less self noise and the same RF bias design, while also being way more sensitive. I don't own either, but am in the market for a new all-round mic now, and your content is very helpful.
Yes, sorry about that. It is hard to know where to draw that line.
My basic package is the AT 4053b for interior work, and the Rode NTG3 for outside. But I've used the MKH 50, and that is a better sound. But at twice the price.
Rode offers a 10 year warranty, which is something to note as well.
Another great review, thanks!
Thanks Scott!
17:17 unfortunately the Rode NTG-5 has major quality issues. Had to return both due to RF interferences. I replaced both NTG-5 with the MKH 416 to have a reliable mic in any situations.
Good to hear the 416 has been reliable 👍
Some times we use mkh8060 for both indoor and outdoor, and cmit5u is also great for it
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Great overview. Thanks. One word of warning to folks about the Oktava mics.... I've owned 5 of them, and I have 2 left. The others all died. They're great sounding mics, but they're very VERY fragile. I tend to be a little rough with my gear out in the field (not deliberately, but out of circumstance) but everything survives the punishment.... except for the Oktavas. Handle with care, guys. Sadly, I won't be buying any more of them. No point for me. Thanks again.
Hi Heathcliff, thanks so much for sharing your experience with the Oktavas. Really good to have another data point!
I had to use a Samson C02 for my first ever feature film :( :( Because the Oktava broke! And I was overseas for the entire month of the film being shot. Luckily I had that C02 spare with me as a back up! (ALWAYS HAVE BACK UPS!)
@@SoundSpeeding Yeah, they're terrific sounding, versatile mics (I've recorded voice and entire orchestras with them) but they're not as robust as they look. It's like handing china ceramics! Pity.
@@SoundSpeedingtriple redundancy.
If sound does not work, nothing happens.
I had a shoot a while back and the GPS got me very lost. I had to call the director for directions (out in the sticks) and when I showed up 1/2 late, I was the least popular guy on set that day.
Masterpiece of a video! So insightful! Which mic would you recommend for booming indoor talking head videos to a MixPre recorder? AT4053b? Was hoping that the MKH416 could be used all around but seemed like you didn’t recommend it for indoor use.
416 can certainly do the job but I’d recommend saving some budget to manage any reverb in your recording space.
I just bought a Schoeps CMIT-5 .... I’m really excited for it to come 😍😍
Congrats! That's a good one!
Curtis Judd thanks! I listened to many of your sound gear videos before making my decision. Thank you for providing amazing content 🙂
Great subject! I'm just starting out in filmmaking after a 25 year break- 16mm film and a tascam tape deck lol. I was wondering about the Samson C02 -- could I use that for my no/micro budget short filmmaking? Interior shooting only. I'm buying a second hand DR 60MKII for recorder FYI.
Sure. They’re a bit noisy but get the job done.
Sennheiser MKH 416 is also moisture resistant which is an important consideration for field recording
Indeed.
Another great review. I really appreciate your coverage Curtis. As an owner of most of the top end mics you’ve covered here, I actually agree with your opinion on almost all of them. I was kinda hoping to see a review of the Sanken CS-M1 in here somewhere as I’m contemplating a purchase soon but, as you said, you don’t have every microphone. You did a great job at covering something for everyone so thanks for making this video
Thanks 22Sound! Michael Wynne put together a couple of videos with CS-M1 samples you might find helpful. Best wishes!
Bought the mkh 8050 today to match with my 416. Thanks for the reviews!
👍 Happy recording!
Hi again Curtis,
I finally can save some money to upgrade from my Samson C02..
As now my channel going towards ASMR unboxing and maybe some Mukbang/eating content, I'm considering buying Rode NT5 or NT1a.
Rode NT1a has a very good noise floor compare to NT5 (about 11dB different). But, my room is not fully soundproofed so sometimes I got a motorcycle passing my house.
Samson C02 did a very good job reducing that noise but the self noise as you know is very noticeable as I increase the gain in post.
The question is, which one should I get? NT1a and NT5 have the same cardioid pattern and are not as good as Samson c02 for reducing environmental noise. but does the size of the diaphragm make it more pronounced to noise?
Hi adimology, I don't know that there is a difference based on my practical experience. The NT1a is very clean so if that's high on the priority list, I'd probably look at the NT1a. Best wishes and happy recording!
Excellent review and level of knowledge. Do you have experience with the Sennheiser MKH8060 shotgun? Thank you
Thanks! Unfortunately I do not have experience with the 8060.
Curtis, thank for another awesome "Product Comparison". My primary Boom/Shotgun Mic is the Sennheiser MKH 416. I am actually the third owner oof this Mic as it was purchased in the late 1970's. The original owner was a onsite Production Video Sennheiser as the End Cap was missing (Did not really effect anything but looked Un-
Wow - that’s a long-lasting microphone!
Have have read much about boom microphones and I have been into buying a ntg5,ntg3 or mkh417 but I’m almost only records inside in corporate place I know considering the mkh50 or mkh8050 or schopes. This video helped me to understand and also change my mind.
Thanks for the feedback Jonte. Happy recording!
Your opinion please...
Booming indoor interviews....I have Sennheiser 416 and want something similar. Would Deity S-Mic 2 be close to the 416...budget is $400 ish.
Thanks for your time and love all your videos. I enrolled in Zoom F4 and F8 and you’ve helped a camera guy do audio.
Yes, they're definitely close enough for interviews. Happy recording!
Can't wait for your lav video. Keep it coming Curtis!
Thanks Andrew, will do!
Curtis Judd I think your channel is the most professional on yt! But i’ve a question... i’ve the bad couple, Ntg 2 and Zoom H4n. I could sell the Zoom H4n, and After the Ntg2 also, because i want a multi porpose mic (in and outdoor) and a good recorder too. All this stuff for a sort of one man band filmaking or really hold crew... looking this vid the verter choice seems to be for me (keeping in mind the recorder’s expense) the Deity S-Mic 2S or the Rode NTG3. What do you think is best to do? And why is so a bad couple Ntg2+Zoomh4n? They sound orrible :/ now i look your video about best Recorders in 2019 :)
Thanks for making these. Between your ASMR voice, and the actual content and explanations, your videos are wonderful. I’m getting into interview shoots, and fairly new to audio. I think you (and others) have sold me on the Oktava, but I’m unsure on which capsule for indoor interviews. The one you have in this video is apparently the cardioid, but from what I gather, the hypercardioid is more ideal for what I need, and you mention this here as well, so I’m unclear which of the two I should go for?
Most opt for the hypercardioid capsule for interview videos.
Thanks. Just ordered it.
Absolutely super useful video. It has clarified a few things for me and confirmed my view of my NTG4+. You could easily split it into two videos too. Big thanks again, Curtis!
Thanks Kamil!
Might be a dumb question but I’m trying to decide on a shotgun mic for my fs72. Here are my options
1. Rode NTG2
2. Samson C02 Pencil Condenser Microphones (Pair)
3. Sony ecm-ms2
Hi Adrian, I haven't used the Sony so not sure about that one. The NTG2 requires quite a lot of gain so if this is mainly for scratch audio, that would probably be your best bet. It is the most directional as well.
Appreciate it!
Thank you Curtis. This is really useful for us that do not have the possibility to test a lot of microphones.
Thanks Bjørn!
Hello Curtis, I watched many of your videos but I have a questions and don't have anybody to ask except you. You have so perfect sound. The best on youtube!
My issue is I'm having saliva sounds shen I do my VO. I drink water, I work hard to avoid it and it's less present because of that but I see some people who don't even train to speak, they don't have it at all. I wondered maybe I do something wrong, I repositioned my AT2050 multiple time, so now it reaches me from the top (like a shotgun mic would), I hear much less of the saliva but I've lost so much of high frequences + got more of my vocal booth reflections (it's ok but not completly dead perfect yet) on my recording.
Am I doing anything wrong? Do I need a different mic? Are there some techniques to conquer these mouse soudns or what?
Thanks if you reply, I respect your opinion so much and trust your experience a lot!
Hi Голос, I have this issue too, especially with large diaphragm condenser microphones when I'm speaking very closely to the mic. This is partly because these microphones can capture the higher frequencies more effectively, they have far higher fidelity than dynamic microphones. Also, boom microphones are usually far away enough that they are less likely to pick up these mouth noises when boomed 40cm away from the mouth. From what I can tell, distance is one of the most effective ways to reduce pickup of these sounds. Further treatment of your vocal booth and moving the mic just a little bit away, this might help a bit. I hope this helps a little bit. Very best wishes!
@@curtisjudd Thanks a lot! Will do!
Hi, this is a great and very informative video. I especially liked the buying advice you provided at the end. The mic I wanted, the Sennheiser MKE 600, wasn't mentioned, but I was wondering if you were familiar with it and would recommend it?
Hi Brandon, thanks. I have only use the MKE 600 one time and do not own it so I didn't feel like I knew it well enough to really speak about it here. My impression is that it has very bright, crisp voicing which can be good on some voices, but probably not best for sibilant voices. Best wishes!
I think something that should be mentioned about the MK-012 is that even with a good shockmount if you don't tie your cables near the male XLR end you'll get some sort of resonance. Literally just takes an elastic, velcro cable tie, or anything you can use to keep the cable still. Also ALWAYS buy the MK-012 new because the 90's-early 00's ones had some issues, but the recent ones are great.
Thanks for the tips, Dylan!
Is the Sennheiser MKH 8050 still your first choice for indoor recordings? I have upgraded to the Zoom F6 recorder and for outdoor recording the Sennheiser MKH 416. I am ready to upgrade from the AT 4053b for indoor recording. I frequently have the indoor mic on a boom stand stationary between two actors rather than trying to have my volunteer boom mic operator twist the boom mic back and forth between the two actors. Would the MKH 8050 be a good choice or would the CMC641 be better. The other considerations are radio frequency interference as I have been in even homes with many wireless devices that produce RF interference and if everything else is equal, then resistance to high humidity would be a plus. A microphone failure could result in the loss of hundreds of dollars of actors' time.
Yes, the 8050 or the 50. The 50 seems to be better at rejecting handling noise.
whats handling noise ? @@curtisjudd
@@creativegreatsvisuals Noise generated when hand-holding a microphone, such as on a boom pole.
Ok, no worries if you can’t answer, but I’m getting too much room noise in my audio with the Deity S-Mic2 and have heavily been recommended the Sennheiser MKH 50. To my ears, it seems like that’d be a great option, but there are so few reviews/comparisons that it’s so hard to know. Everyone swears by the MKH 416, but I’m thinking it might not be the best either because it’s also a shotgun. Oh man, the options are endless…
The solution to managing room noise is to get rid of it by turning off things that don’t need to be on and using isolation to keep it from getting to the mic. The MKH 50 or 416 aren’t probably going to make a night-and-day difference to the DEITY.
@@curtisjudd appreciate it!
One little detail which would be of interest to potential buyers: When showing us the Røde NTG4+ you printed the correct name on screen, and I believe everything you said about it was correct. Except that verbally you only called it the “NTG4” and omitted the “+” in the name, and unfortunately that's a different version of the microphone which doesn’t have the battery option. I only wanted to mention this so that people don’t get confused and buy the wrong version.
Thanks for clarifying Lau.
Hey Curtis, this is such a great video. A truly valuable resource for filmmakers and audio techs. One question for you...if you were to pick an on camera mic for your c200 for run n gun doc work what would it be? I would be looking for something in the $700 - $1700 range. Currently using an ntg 3, but might prefer something a little shorter and came across the sennheiser 8060, sanken cs-1, and the schoeps cmc 641. Any experience with these mics? Any others I should look in to? Hope you are doing well!
Hey Griffin, thanks. I'd probably look at the 8060 or CS-1. They're not as directional as longer shotguns but will be a little lighter. You might see if you can rent one from Trew or Location Sound Corp first to see if you like it.
holy cow, this channel is a gem. Thanks for all the great resources you have put out, I have learned so much.
Thanks Nick.
Nice video! I am currently recording free guitar lessons on my channel and looking for the best mic for the iPhone and am currently using the Shure MV88. What would you recommend for the best mic for recording voice and instrument together?
Best? Are you willing to spend a few thousand dollars on a Sound Devices MixPre and a Neumann km185? Some would say that’s the best.
Hi Curtis... have you ever covered the stands / mounts / connectors for your shotguns & booms in the studio? What are the wooden looking connectors and mounts you have in this video? I’d like to know the details of how you rig your mice and what equipment is out there. Thanks!
Good idea for a future video - thanks Wayne. I'll add it to the list.
REQUEST - Can you help me make a decision
1. Rode NTG
2. Sennheiser MKE 600
Which one would you recommend, for inside the studio videos on a boom pole connected to the camera using an extension
I recommend the Sennheiser MKE600 over the VideoMic NTG, if that's what you're asking?
The MKH 50 and CMC641 are by far my favorites. I remember the first time a heard the Schoeps wen i was working as a intern on a post production company... it just blow me away.
I imideatly just grab the phone and call the location team to ask what microfone they used XD
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did you like the sound of the cmc641 better over the mkh 50 ? if so why ?
@@creativegreatsvisuals yeah i do. At this price range, it's more about the "flavor" than "this one is better than that one"... i fell like the MKH50 make things sound "bigger" and the CMC sounds more like "real life" to me. It is a pretty subjective thing, so you need to try both to see which one you prefer, but those 2 are absolutely incredible mics
@@RafaelPSchaefer what do you mean by bigger ?
@@creativegreatsvisuals I didn't check the frequency response charts but by ear, I feel that the mkh50 have a little spike on 8~10k and more bass on 30~100hz region. I think those two make it sound "bigger"
I have an Audix uem-81 and an old Sennheiser K3-u and both sound pretty good in my opinion. The sennheiser served many years as part of an eng rig for a local tv station before it ended up in my kit bag but it still works great.
👍 If it sounds great, it is great! Good to hear that an older microphone is still working well. That's the great thing about microphones, a good one is easily worth its price because it can work well for so many years.
@@curtisjudd that is very true. I saved the K3 and a Cartoni carbon fiber tripod from the trash because my boss said they weren't worth keeping. Both were part of an old eng setup at a tv station I used to work for.
All great information and a wonderful presentation. Thanks, Curtis. Have a nice day!
Thanks Michael, you too!
You are so well versed on microphones. Thanks for sharing such wisdom. Would you say that in interview settings a boom microphone is always better sounding than lavs? ie comparing the best dpa lav with the best dpa boom microphone to be fair.
Hi Mark, my experience is that a boom mic almost always sounds more natural but sometimes a Lav mic helps reject a bit more ambient sound/noise. My preference is for a boom, but I usually use both and choose one in post.
I agree with Curtis, ALWAYS use both, unless you've got *extremely* EXCEPTIONAL circumstances. The only two examples I can personally think of that I did last year (and I do a *lot* of sound recording, so as a percentage, two times is indeed very rare) was: 1) doing EFP on Avatar, the PSM had no spare frequencies whatsoever to give to me so I wasn't allowed to use wireless. Did the interview with my hardwired boom, in hindsight I should have brought along a hardwired lav mic as well (or perhaps the Deity Connect Wireless, which shares the WiFi spectrum so I feel they probably couldn't have objected to that) & 2) when we had some crazy number of people to interview in an extremely short space of time (can't quite recall, something like a dozen people in a couple of hours? Plus all of them non-actor civies) thus I made the judgement call to just go with a boom.
@@curtisjuddLOL, me too. I love giving the editor a choice. As you know,I like my Tascam DR 10L. They can be a lifesaver.
I did one shoot where the chef was using a grill. You can imagine the noise, heat, grease, etc. I laved him up under his T shirt, worked well.
Hey Curtis! First thing is I love your videos! They are so informative and helped me move forward with my latest purchase, MixPre-6 II! I love it! But, can I ask a question?
I use a Rode Videomic NTG and love it. I shoot with a Sony A7iii and I use the Videomic NTG with my Wireless Go, which provides a nice little wireless setup. But I am having some trouble setting up the gain structure on the NTG, the Wireless Go & on the Mix-Pre since all the devices have their own adjustable gain. I’m trying to take advantage of the 32-bit to help, but also realize that audio clipping can occur from the mic source and if that happens, it’s unrepairable.
How would you setup the gain for all of these devices in when using them together? Without the Mixpre, I was doing A7iii at mic preamp at its lowest level, 1, Wireless Go at its lowest level and NTG from 7-10, this worked well.
With the Mixpre added in the mix (pun intended, haha) that hasn’t worked well for some reason.
Do you have any recommendations in optimizing this setup to take advantage of 32-bit float?
Hi Timothy, thanks for the question. I would normally start with the microphone and get its gain optimized first. So I'd plug that into the GO transmitter. I'd set the GO's input level to 1/2 way and then adjust the gain on the NTG until the meters are peaking around -12dB. Then I'd set the output level on the receiver to its max or middle setting and adjust the input on the MixPre until the meters there are also peaking around -12dB. It can be a little crazy when you have several gain stages, but the main idea is to gain up at the start and hopefully not have to do much gain later in the chain. Best wishes and happy recording!
@@curtisjudd This was so helpful! Thank you so much for taking the time to share your insight! I truly appreciate it!
Somewhat on topic, if I may. Using Davnci and the Fairlight module, to what standard should our setting be? There is an actual NETLIX standard listed in the dropdown. What would be best for TH-cam? Tnx Curtis, I follow you and have taken your fine course on using F8n.
I would personally target -16 LUFS for content that is primarily spoken word. TH-cam will allow you to go as loud as -14 LUFS, but for spoken word, that doesn't leave much in the way of dynamic range.
Do you have your eye on the a7siii? I'd love to hear a test comparison by you on the xlr-k3m hot shoe adapter vs. mix pre series on a purely audio quality point of view (obviously, the mix pre can do things the adapter can't). I'm getting ready to do a deep dive, and up to this point the mix pre has been the obvious audio recorder of choice for me.
Hi Micah, I'd love to test it but don't have the budget for the camera and adapter at the moment. Will see if I can borrow it from someone.
Thank you for the very informative video and for sharing your audio wisdom Curtis. I was about to purchased the Samson CO2 for indoor podcasting, however, I recently discovered the Behringer C2. Could you please share your observations between these two pencil condenser mic?
Hi Raf, thanks. Unfortunately, I haven't tried the Behringer C2. So many microphones, so little time. 😀
@@curtisjudd Thank you for the prompt reply, and please keep sharing your awesome videos!
Great review, can you compare the DPA 4017b to the 4017c? It’s compact and costs less.
Hi Angelo, thanks. I don't have access to a C amplifier at the moment, but certainly will if the opportunity arises.
Great effort. Good comparison. I want to go with Rode NT 5 for indoor dialogue for my budget. I want to set this mic on a boom pole and record audio on a separate recorder . Which audio recorder and XLR cable would you recommend ( budget friendly ). I have Zoom H 1 , but I think it doesn’t work.
Thank you
Hi RK RK, you might consider the Tascam DR-60DmkII: th-cam.com/video/TRoIMPHS91U/w-d-xo.html
@@curtisjudd
Thanks a lot 🙏
Hi there! I’ve been watching videos of microphones and audio gears for about 50 hours now. It seems I'm hopeless. (But I'm still enthusiastic.) I presume you haven’t got much time to answer silly questions of fans, yet I hope you can help me with this:)
I work as an actress and I’m up to set up my home studio (corona virus as leading cause…but actually I've always wanted to have one).
I'd like to find a mic which can provide a relatively high quality sound for
1. audiobook recordings (at the first place but possibly for any other voice overs on the long run)
2. making videos (containing: me reading literature. Poems, short storys etc.)
In details:
-Voice over: I think I’m going to have that focusrite scarlett solo. And I use a mac pro (Should I be careful with compatibility issues? Please let me know.:) Booth is in the process of being made.
-Filming: I would shoot in untreated environments (such as my attic, my garden etc.some background noise is ok as long as it lets the text do what it can). Not many plans recently just sit there and read :D The microphone should be unseen of course.
I’m considering of spending about 300$ on this equipment.
(Including Mic+interface.
I’m quite serious about the thing however I can’t afford spending too much on it yet.)
Watching all these videos my last consideration was a shotgun mic, but after I saw you comparing one with a mic used for voiceovers I got confused…maybe it wasn’t even a shotgun…I'm confused anyway.
Although I spent much time to learn from you and your fellow audio junkies (and gosh I highly appreciate your work, should have mentioned that at the first place). So this is the point when I start to beg.
Could you please tell me would a shotgun mic serve well for this purpose? Or rather a pencil one? Or should I just hang a condenser studio one overhead if I want to use it for filming?
Sorry for my dullness . Cheers
Hi Tünde, I would have a look at the Audio Technica AT875R. Best wishes!
Thanks a lot for Your response!:) best wishes
Nice job of covering the different microphones. I have looked through your channel I don't see a review of the Rode NTG8 nor one for the Sennheiser MKH8060 although you have reviewed the Sennheiser MKH 8050. Have you done reviews on the NTG8 or 8060?
Not yet, both are on my wishlist!
"the Rode NTG8 nor one for the Sennheiser MKH8060 "
Those are two VERY different mics.
Would be better to say instead: "the Rode NTG3 vs the Sennheiser MKH8060 "
In brief, the NTG3 is the knock off of the 416, and the MKH8060 is the modern update (the 2nd! MKH60 was the first) of the 416
Or, to ask: "the Rode NTG8 vs Sennheiser MKH8070 "
In brief, the NTG8 is the knock off of the 816, and the MKH8070 is the modern update (the 2nd! MKH70 was the first) of the 816
My additional comment is basically nobody uses long shotguns any longer on a regular basis, they were most popular in the bad old days (or should I say... good old days?? Hmmm... maybe it was better then without wireless! haha) of no wireless.
The other reason is technology has advanced since the days of the 816, lots of 816 owners sold theirs after the CS3 got launched.
Although if you've got a truck full of just sound kit for working on big budget drama shows, then yeah, it is worth having a long shotgun as an option.
Great mic collection and discussion! I enjoyed a Neumann KMR81 shotgun for many years, and sold it for a small profit within an hour of posting online a few years ago. Lovely sound, but seems to have fallen off the general radar in many sound circles: I guess Sennheiser do much of the heavy lifting in that brand family.
Thanks Alex! Yes, it is interesting how in the sound for film space, we don't see a lot more Neumann gear, especially since they're manufactured by Sennheiser.
@@curtisjudd nice as the KMR81 is, the Sennheiser MKH mics feel more rugged and durable (I didn't like taking the Neumann outside...!).
@@75ajw That makes sense. The MKH mics are tough as nails...and hammers for that matter.
thanks for the really good vids - can you add the DPA 4017 and 4018 to your list of mic to do please ?
Thanks. 👍
Great complete review i completely agree with you about the mics i know. Which shockmount would you recommand for the Oktava mk012 (i always have problems with this one!). A review of stereo mics and couples would be great as well !!
Hi Aliocha, I'd look at something like this: www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/554998-REG/Rycote_041106_INV_6_InVision_Indoor_Microphone.html?sts=pi&pim=Y
Wow, great review! So many microphones. I want to start with sampling (let's say marbles in a bowl). Which microphone (and accessories) would you recommend?
Thanks. The DEITS S-Mic 2 is a good option for sound effects recording.
Did you ever get the chance to run some AB test between the mkh50 and the neumann km185? I could test the 2 side by side on a talent once and i was the sound editor in that occasion, but i can’t find those files anymore and i can’t remember exactly what the difference was... I’m considering buying an indoor mic since I’m not renting much lately for I’m working more and more for myself rather than for actual productions... I just can’t remember if I thought the km185 was good enough (so that i can save some bucks haha).
As always, great videos man!
Thanks Andrew. No, I own the 8050 and have never had a chance to use the km185. I have used the 50. In any case, I think a case could be made for any of these mics - all good in their own ways. The 50 has a more aggressive sound to my ear, the 8050 is smoother with a bit more of a dip in the mid frequencies.
Hi , i love these types of videos 🤗, could you make a review about synco g2 wireless microphone, and saramonic uwmic9s ? 🙂 (Maybe some boya shotgun microphones?)
Thanks Norbi! I tried the Saramonic system a few years back and opted not to review it as the two kits I had both produced persistent, annoying clicking sounds. So I don't recommend that option. I'll see about reviews of the others. Thanks!
@@curtisjudd Thank you ! :D
I've been using a Sony ECM-678 for almost 10 years now and wondered what you thought of that one... I am looking to upgrade to something better now, as I am not completely happy with the Sony. Your video here has really helped me make some good choices.
Hi Anton, I haven't worked with the ECM-678. I hope this video gave you some ideas on where to go next. Best wishes!