I work as a Professional Production Sound Mixer and I noticed 2 problems with your audio setup. I understand your setup is not for professionals, but these 2 issues still apply. 1 - Having a wireless boom mic defeats the real reason for having a boom mic. The main reason for having a boom mic is to have a fail safe in case anything goes wrong with wireless mics as they often do. You want to have at least 1 guaranteed audio source to use in case things go south with the wireless sources. I strongly recommend using a wired XLR cable (typically a coiled cable for convenience). There is also an additional bonus with not using the boom as a wireless mic. This now frees up 1 of your wireless transmitters you can now use for an additional lav mic. 2 - If you use a wireless earphone monitoring system you fall prey to additional wireless issues. Additionally, you want your monitoring source to be as flawless as possible so you can identify and troubleshoot any issues you hear with the recording (the whole reason your are monitoring in the first place). This is the main reason Professional Sound Mixers always plug their earphones directly into the mixer/recorder. Since the Sound Mixer is already tethered to the mixer/recorder because of the XLR connected boom (as I outlined in #1 above), monitoring the audio with earphones directly plugged into the mixer/recorder is no problem. Also, the Sound Mixer can properly adjust the recording levels and monitor technical issues directly on the mixer/recorder as they should be doing anyway. If you still want to provide wireless audio listening to other people on the set, you can easily add an IFB system as an output from the mixer/recorder. I love your video series and watch them often. I hope this advice helps. Keep up the great work!
Agree 100% with this. Its nice for things that aren't that important and want/need the convenience of wireless but always have that quality wired backup. But still a pretty rad wireless solution to play with
I agree. I understand having a transmitter to the boom, in the case of having a sound mixer in one place and a boom operator in another. But if there is only one person, it is redundant. In the case of the Wireless headphones, it is overkill for an on bag mixer. It would be cool to use if with a MixPre-3 or 6 and gave the headphones to video village. Boom Mic = straight to bag Deity Transmitter A = Lav Deity Transmitter B = Lav Headphone splitter for headphones. Headphones = Bag Mixer Rode Wireless Go Wireless Headphones = Video Village
I'm with Steve on this one. When it's working properly it seems very convenient but I wouldn't recommend anyone set up their bag in this way. Adding more wireless connections is a recipe for trouble and having a whole system reliant on internal batteries is also dangerous. Sometimes people forget to charge stuff (at least I do) so being able to just buy AA batteries from any store and be up and running is super important to me.
I'm fine with people disregarding my advice. However, they should be aware of the following qualifiers if they choose to record the way you have outlined in the video: - You don't care about the quality of the audio and can live with all the potential issues of wireless recording paired with a wireless monitoring system. - You can live with all the potential issues of not directly monitoring the sound mixer/recorder. - You can deal with just letting the mixer/recorder keep running in 1 long, continuous take. It is not fun to edit a 'Wild Track' and sync with video in post--especially since you are not running timecode (The Mix Pre does not have TC. Plus the cameras would need TC via Lockit Box or another TC brand). Or, you should be willing to run back and forth to the mixer/recorder to start and stop each take. If the mixer/recorder is positioned right next to the camera you are shooting from, then it nullifies the reason to have a wireless boom and wireless earphones. - You are a 1 man band running everything on the shoot (lights, cameras, sound). - You are willing to operate the camera(s) at the same time you are holding the wireless boom. Again, I'm not against recording sound this way as long as everyone understands the potential downsides. :)
@@stevemdguy Thanks for the comment. I do have a question. I am basically doing the video and audio and lighting work for a youtube channel. As such we have a lot of stuff to monitor. The wireless headphones would really free up my actions as I know have to either be tethered to my recorder or trust that it sounds good which has screwed me. So in that situation do you have any recommendations? I got the sense that Caleb was really presenting this set up for people like me that don't have multiple people on set to monitor things.
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Possibly the most comprehensive ‘build’ video you’ve put out - and that’s saying something!!!! You can tell just how many years of evolution has gone into this kit. It’s incredible!!! Such a neat and complete solution. Very impressive stuff.
@@dslrvideoshooter I'm totally going to steal this idea with my rode wireless go to watch movies at night with my sony mdr 7506 headphones instead of using a long TRS cable.
I saw some criticism of this idea. They suggested that having the receiver so close to your head was a bad plan because of concerns of radiation. Can anyone speak to this?
For people looking to build their audio kit, please please do not plug your headphones into a rode wireless. 1) You're going to look like an amateur on set and 2) you're adding more troubleshooting headache if you start to hear rf noise/interference (is it the notoriously bad Rode Go or is it the Deity?). Also, the boom mic is the wireless fail safe. You mentioned something about "now I don't even need the bag, I can just walk away with my wireless boom pole to monitor audio". The whole point of the bag is to allow you to be mobile. And if you have a bag that lets you be mobile, then you should be using an xlr cable with that boom mic as a wireless failsafe. Just seems like an easy way to post your affiliate link to a product even if it's such a bad idea to use that device in the way shown in this video.
I used the Rode Wireless Go set to tap into the sound system at a presentation - insta super sound! Way better than running 20 meters of XLR cables with DI boxes in there.
Nice setup for someone who is a one-man production crew without a dedicated audio mixer. I'm hesitant to be completely wireless due to the inherent issues with wireless audio, specifically interference. Great video as always!
Some clarification around the USB power may be warranted. Plugging multiple receivers or the audio recorder into the same battery brick will result in feedback noise. I think Caleb you are using the USB for charging only and not power distribution while recording. I have a MixPre-3 Mark ii that I have fit into an Orca OR-27 and have 3 wireless receivers total that I can feed into the MP3, but typically am going to be hard wiring my boom pole in. I can bring in boom pole in wirelessly with the third wireless receiver. I have one battery brick powering the Mix pre 3 and a second battery brick powering one of the wireless receivers. I can't plug in a second or third wireless receiver into any of the bricks if they are already powering something, without getting bad feedback. Just finished listening to a live stream with Curtis Judd and he recommends a Power distribution system that employs filtering to avoid any feedback issues.
If you are a sound recordist with the bag on straps what is the benefit of a wireless boom? If you are sending sound to camera, then yup get it. But what are you gaining when in use you are holding the pole and wearing the bag?
The RodeLink plug-on transmitter it fairly quiet, and supplies Phantom power for professional shotguns. It also has it's own Headphone jack, so you could send someone out without a bag and they can still hear what they are booming.
Have to agree it's a pretty clean set up, but I've been in too many situations where wired mics saved a shoot or event. Just too much RF wandering around to take a chance on wireless alone. Like the charging arrangement. Pretty slick.
It’s great - but wireless can fail so I’d need a small recorder (Tascam?) on the boom wired directly to the mike. Note: the plug-on wireless transmitter from the Rode news shooter kit has an audio out ( headphone ) jack in it that could be used for wired backup recording and monitoring - that way you’re covered in case of wireless failure.
Two things, I was going to get a pole with the XLR in it and I was told by an old OP to never get internal cable as it always breaks when you are the biggest paid set of your life. lol I do a Sony XLR wireless adapter on my Shotgun or the Rode Go then that goes to the bag and it works very well. Just my two cents. I really want to do the wireless headset but I have reservations about the batteries on the Rode go'es for 12hr shoots on top of break up and pops as I use Rode Go's as I said before as a quick shotgun setup or I use to send a scratch track to cameras on set.
"This video was not paid for by outside persons or manufacturers. No gear was supplied to me for this video." Yet Deity sent you the wireless system. Not trolling you, just seems like you contradicted yourself. Great video and very insightful. Super setup you have configured!
A very simplified version of this would be with the Saramonic SR-VRM1 and a microphone, preferably an xlr mic. It provides phantom power so no issues there and the sound floor test for noise seems to be quite decent especially for the price. Of course you won't be able to monitor the audio unless youre standing close to the microphone since you plug the recorder straight to the mic but it reduces the point of failures drastically and makes alot of sense for people on a budget trying to get into professional setups
If you want the best of both worlds (wireless, and a bulletproof signal), I would go with a Zaxcom setup as you get the recording at the transmitter as well. High cost, but a professional solution for critical applications.
This is great! Would you be able to document how you nodded your headphones? I found some 3.5mm jacks already on Amazon and would love to do this to my own Sony monitor headphones. Thanks!
Im loving the wireless headphone mod but not lovin $200 for Rode wireless go for this option. My first thought was Curtis might have a way to do it a bit cheaper....🤞🤞🤞
The wireless headphone mod is so clutch!! Honestly that's the biggest take away for me from this. No more long cables and messy cables, especially useful for solo shooters!
So what battery pack are you using to power the MixPre-3? All you have linked is a general landing page for mobile battery banks, I want to see what can last "weeks and weeks" because I need that lol
randomfrankp I used a RAVpower model. Any of those big boy USB batteries will work great. I rotate 22000mAh batteries every few weeks. Side note, love you vids man! Huge keyboard dork so I’m loving your stuff!
@@randomfrankp Make sure any battery brick you get is capable of USB-C power output. MixPre3 may not power up in full power mode on USB-A style batteries even with a dual USB-A to USB- Cable. On reduced power mode, MixPre3 will only phantom power 2 of the 3 XLR connections. Most battery bricks now can be found with USB-C PD connections.
Sir, this is probably the most practical and beneficial video you have ever made! It would be a fun 'challenge' on your channel to follow up with a "poor man's" version of this same setup using "dirt-poor" alternatives to all the elements and see how low the price could go before it becomes junk.
It is a great design exercise, and everyone can pick any idea they like from it. Similar to a concept-car, in a way... Your USB power-hub is a goal of mine too, and I hope I can come up with a small enough system, with lots of running time, thanks to that. Very helpful, thank you so much !
yeah dude this rocks. i actually used a bluetooth setup for monitoring and yes there is delay but i only use it if i need to move but yeah i use earbuds that are bluetooth and headphones plugged in. making the boom wireless is a little shaky for me as i've tried that with a sennheiser wireless pack and it was flawless, but... if it's a paid gig i'm going wired and manning up keeping the audio bag on me at all times. but yeah i love your setup for fun projects.
Caleb is like the Bob Ross of building production setups. Just when you think "no wtf is he doing" he puts it all together and you're like "whoa you f*cking genius"
It is tempting but 2 main problem occurs : first your perfect shotgun microphone sound will be processed by deity wireless system than it will come to mix pre3,,seems awkward . second wireless system reliability . have you test this system ,sample recording comparison?
Another great video Caleb! I love all the frugal/DIY mods too. It's worth knowing for all Brits out there (Hi from England) that in the UK, don't know about the States, if you are to use a UHF transmitter (*not* 2.4GHz type), you must require a licence from OFCOM, which is most annoying as well as expensive. This point about licencing doesn't get aired very much in many videos about audio on TH-cam, but I thought it should be mentioned.
I have a boom pole with the little Tascam DR 10x plugged in to my xlr shotgun mics (have 3) and Audio Technica m40x headphones. Net of microphone I'm in my wireless boom pole for about $350. I use a Tascam Dr100mk3 for additional recording when needed.
While the one-usb-charges all solution is okay, I would personally recommend one of Anker's USB charging hubs that plug into the wall, I would think otherwise that everything charges fairly slowly.
I tried this set up using the Rode NTG video mic pro directly into a Tentacle Sync trackE and then to the headphones via a pair of Rode Go’s (transmitter was attached to the headphone socket of the TrackE). What I found was the signal a bit too weak from the Rode gos into the headphones. It would get to a point of volume and then distort. It was ok enough to tell you if it was still on and still recording but not good enough to monitor in the true sense. I love the idea of wireless audio but for reliability nothing beats cables in my experience.
I just got 4 RØDE Wireless GO’s today and I was planning on doing exactly the same thing with my headphones for monitoring as well (provided I’m not recording 4 people simultaneously). It’s a great idea.
The "cyberman-headphones-look" is something I am very familiar with. I have a pair of Bang&Olufson H6 and I just 3M taped a bluetooth receiver to them. Best thing about it: the H6 has TWO 3.5mm ports, so I don't even need to unplug the receiver when using them cabled. :P Looks ridiculous but works great.
When you said "I'm going to actually clip the Rode ..." it reminded me that with the gen II and its 32bit clipping impossible feature, saving a clipped recording will only work if the mic is plugged directly in to the unit, and not if the mic is wireless, since a conversion has already happened. At least I think that's how it works?
Sort of - the audio can clip at the transmitter before it even gets to the mixer. So the 32-bit raw feature will still work, but the audio you are sending in has already been distorted (so you would be able to prevent it from being even more distorted). Some transmitters have safeguards against this, like an analog limiter.
Wow, this video has inspired my to go wireless. I'm curious if you have a step by step video or process on how you converted your Sony MDR-7506 to have that 1/4" jack? Also, can you recommend a comparable wireless LAV kit that has internal battery/USB charging? Thanks!
So you actually can just split the recorders output, connect another rode wireless system and feed it directly into the camera, right? That's AWESOME!! Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for all the great ideas. I currently don’t own any of the Deity hardware but I have some alternates I going to use instead. Thanks for the new project.
Daaaaamn!!!! This video was awesome. It would have made my life 10x easier. I wish there was a way to get rid of some of that delay, I’m sure there is something out there. 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿🔥🔥🔥😎😎😎👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
Simply amazing Caleb! And of course you solved your own problem with a quick charging setup without breaking everything down💪 Can’t wait for the next video!
AMAZING!!!!! I need to know how you did the wireless headphones! I am currently using the sennheiser GH4 labs and a zoom h6n, having an audio bag and headphones would be so helpful!
Wow I was very impressed with the quality of this video and the setup. The quality and issues of full wireless does bother me though. Quality wise and reliability wise. 19 mill delay is more than you would think. Either way I love binging your channel vids!!!
just had a friend loose some audio thanks to drop outs on the Rode wireless go system. It's perfect for wireless headphones though - those things are so light I bet it barely registers on your headphones that there's extra weight to one side! - Annoying that the deity has a self noise issue - I must try it with a pair G3 packs...
Wow this is definitely a game changer! Random question: what camera bag would you recommend for a solo video shooter to use to transport a mirrorless camera with a couple lenses, an on camera shotgun mic, and a wireless lavalier system? I've been using a photo camera backpack and I think I need something I can pick up and put down and just move around quicker without worrying about everything spilling out if it's not closed.
Very interesting audio kit, thank you for this video ! Yet, 3 things bother me in this system : 1) I am not sure about having a wireless transmitter stuck next to my head. I have no idea about the power of the transmitter (but still stronger than bluetooth to reach their up to 70m range) and I didn't measure the EMF level. So I can't tell if for sure if this system can be harmful but it may be something to keep in mind. 2) having a wireless system for audio monitoring exposes you to the various problems you can have with wireless : latency, cut, radio interferences, etc. In order to monitor properly the audio and hear any default or issue, the source needs to be flawless. 3) Just a little remark here but is it safe to recharge every devices through a single USB cable and USB hub ?
Hey, this has become one of my favorite channels for cleverness. You do very nice presentations with innovative solutions. Great work. With this setup, I found one stumbling block for gear. I have a Rode NTG-3 shotgun mic for my boom setup. How do I provide it with phantom power? Any thoughts on this would be appreciated. Keep up the great work. And thanks for sharing the knowledge.
I love your videos, but I don't even bother with sync sound. I do have a wireless setup but I use the Nux b-3 wireless system to plug one end into the shotgun mic and the other directly into the camera. I have tested several ways to record audio. 1. Just camera audio (which obviously is terrible but used it for comparison purposes). 2. Shotgun mic directly to camera 3. Just audio recorder (zoom h6 with no mic) 4. Audio recorder with shotgun mic plugged in 5. Audio recorder (no mic) plugged directly into camera. 5. Mic plugged into recorder then plugged into camera (i figured this way, you have audio recordings on both camera and recorder as a backup). In the end, the 2 best sounding clips I found were the mic into the audio recorder and mic directly into the camera and even when I compared these 2 (testing noise levels and such) I found no difference in quality and wasn't even noticeable. With my current setup it is wireless and you don't have people crowding the camera. I do this setup mainly because it's just me and my buddy making films and every time we try to get crew, they always become unreliable.
Good find on the Rode Wireless Go Caleb and Aaron. The only thing I'd note is it is only a mono setup as opposed to a dedicated wireless headphones. Shouldn't matter for filming applications though provided both channels are mixed centre on the headphone socket. I have the mix-pre 6 - great mixer/recorder - very versatile.
That setup is cool and all and I normally always totally agree with you but that is way too much trust in a wireless system. One of those things can easily go wrong. I found that using wires are the most annoying but at the end of the day it is the safest option.
The Røde Wireless Go will only transmit a mono mix, right? As they are for one microphone originally. Am I right, or are you getting a stereo signal into your headphones?
So many brilliant ideas in this bag! You've really pushed the envelope on this one CALEBBBB - I'm not up to Sound Devices budget just yet, but my H6 is dying some some Diety Mics to fill it up with some quality audio..... Great vid brotha
Cool! Thank you for the video! Now (4 years later) I wonder if there is another way (maybe easier) set-up? Are there already wireless mics that can be connected to a camera even? And I don't mean those lav mics. Would be great if could help me out with that.
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I work as a Professional Production Sound Mixer and I noticed 2 problems with your audio setup. I understand your setup is not for professionals, but these 2 issues still apply.
1 - Having a wireless boom mic defeats the real reason for having a boom mic. The main reason for having a boom mic is to have a fail safe in case anything goes wrong with wireless mics as they often do. You want to have at least 1 guaranteed audio source to use in case things go south with the wireless sources. I strongly recommend using a wired XLR cable (typically a coiled cable for convenience). There is also an additional bonus with not using the boom as a wireless mic. This now frees up 1 of your wireless transmitters you can now use for an additional lav mic.
2 - If you use a wireless earphone monitoring system you fall prey to additional wireless issues. Additionally, you want your monitoring source to be as flawless as possible so you can identify and troubleshoot any issues you hear with the recording (the whole reason your are monitoring in the first place). This is the main reason Professional Sound Mixers always plug their earphones directly into the mixer/recorder. Since the Sound Mixer is already tethered to the mixer/recorder because of the XLR connected boom (as I outlined in #1 above), monitoring the audio with earphones directly plugged into the mixer/recorder is no problem. Also, the Sound Mixer can properly adjust the recording levels and monitor technical issues directly on the mixer/recorder as they should be doing anyway. If you still want to provide wireless audio listening to other people on the set, you can easily add an IFB system as an output from the mixer/recorder.
I love your video series and watch them often. I hope this advice helps. Keep up the great work!
Agree 100% with this. Its nice for things that aren't that important and want/need the convenience of wireless but always have that quality wired backup. But still a pretty rad wireless solution to play with
I agree.
I understand having a transmitter to the boom, in the case of having a sound mixer in one place and a boom operator in another. But if there is only one person, it is redundant.
In the case of the Wireless headphones, it is overkill for an on bag mixer. It would be cool to use if with a MixPre-3 or 6 and gave the headphones to video village.
Boom Mic = straight to bag
Deity Transmitter A = Lav
Deity Transmitter B = Lav
Headphone splitter for headphones.
Headphones = Bag Mixer
Rode Wireless Go Wireless Headphones = Video Village
I'm with Steve on this one. When it's working properly it seems very convenient but I wouldn't recommend anyone set up their bag in this way. Adding more wireless connections is a recipe for trouble and having a whole system reliant on internal batteries is also dangerous. Sometimes people forget to charge stuff (at least I do) so being able to just buy AA batteries from any store and be up and running is super important to me.
I'm fine with people disregarding my advice. However, they should be aware of the following qualifiers if they choose to record the way you have outlined in the video:
- You don't care about the quality of the audio and can live with all the potential issues of wireless recording paired with a wireless monitoring system.
- You can live with all the potential issues of not directly monitoring the sound mixer/recorder.
- You can deal with just letting the mixer/recorder keep running in 1 long, continuous take. It is not fun to edit a 'Wild Track' and sync with video in post--especially since you are not running timecode (The Mix Pre does not have TC. Plus the cameras would need TC via Lockit Box or another TC brand). Or, you should be willing to run back and forth to the mixer/recorder to start and stop each take. If the mixer/recorder is positioned right next to the camera you are shooting from, then it nullifies the reason to have a wireless boom and wireless earphones.
- You are a 1 man band running everything on the shoot (lights, cameras, sound).
- You are willing to operate the camera(s) at the same time you are holding the wireless boom.
Again, I'm not against recording sound this way as long as everyone understands the potential downsides. :)
@@stevemdguy Thanks for the comment. I do have a question. I am basically doing the video and audio and lighting work for a youtube channel. As such we have a lot of stuff to monitor. The wireless headphones would really free up my actions as I know have to either be tethered to my recorder or trust that it sounds good which has screwed me.
So in that situation do you have any recommendations? I got the sense that Caleb was really presenting this set up for people like me that don't have multiple people on set to monitor things.
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Possibly the most comprehensive ‘build’ video you’ve put out - and that’s saying something!!!! You can tell just how many years of evolution has gone into this kit. It’s incredible!!! Such a neat and complete solution. Very impressive stuff.
Thank you Devon!
Love the headphone mod to get rid of the cable! And supergluing a cold shoe mount to the side! 😂👌 And thanks for linking to my video!
Thank you so much for the idea man!!! You're a champ!
@@dslrvideoshooter I'm totally going to steal this idea with my rode wireless go to watch movies at night with my sony mdr 7506 headphones instead of using a long TRS cable.
@@dslrvideoshooter correct me if I'm wrong but you are monitoring in Mono right ? or dose the rode go transmit in stereo ??
Does the wireless go transmit a stereo signal?
I saw some criticism of this idea. They suggested that having the receiver so close to your head was a bad plan because of concerns of radiation. Can anyone speak to this?
This is great! All USB-C rechargeable with the hidden hub- so easy compared to power strips and wall warts!
That really got my attention. Already thought this was cool but that brought it all home.
I’ll blow your mind, battery distribution box.
revisiting this after 3 years. just wondering if you have updated your sound bag. :) perhaps can share your latest audio bag setup? :)
For people looking to build their audio kit, please please do not plug your headphones into a rode wireless. 1) You're going to look like an amateur on set and 2) you're adding more troubleshooting headache if you start to hear rf noise/interference (is it the notoriously bad Rode Go or is it the Deity?). Also, the boom mic is the wireless fail safe. You mentioned something about "now I don't even need the bag, I can just walk away with my wireless boom pole to monitor audio". The whole point of the bag is to allow you to be mobile. And if you have a bag that lets you be mobile, then you should be using an xlr cable with that boom mic as a wireless failsafe. Just seems like an easy way to post your affiliate link to a product even if it's such a bad idea to use that device in the way shown in this video.
I rigged up a wireless system for a shoot this week. It was just an H1n velcro attached to the pole and wired directly into it. It worked well!
I used the Rode Wireless Go set to tap into the sound system at a presentation - insta super sound! Way better than running 20 meters of XLR cables with DI boxes in there.
Look how high the like bar is. I think a lot of us really needed and appreciate this video.
Nice setup for someone who is a one-man production crew without a dedicated audio mixer. I'm hesitant to be completely wireless due to the inherent issues with wireless audio, specifically interference. Great video as always!
Have nearly the same kit and couldnt be happier with my K-tek boom, MixPre-3, NTG-3. Now to wireless, thanks a ton!
Mannn I just picked up a Deity D3 Pro two weeks ago, and I love it! Being able to boom it wirelessly seems like a dream 🤤
It feels so weird having only used wired in the past.
@@dslrvideoshooter why mines are not working? can share your setup?
better than Rode video mic pro plus?
I did something similar but even lighter with the Rode Videomic and Rode Wireless Go, on the iFootage Carbon fiber monopod. Super light and portable!
You need a xlr with 90° angled for that boom
Got one but need to rewire it... Low profile too 😍
Some clarification around the USB power may be warranted. Plugging multiple receivers or the audio recorder into the same battery brick will result in feedback noise. I think Caleb you are using the USB for charging only and not power distribution while recording. I have a MixPre-3 Mark ii that I have fit into an Orca OR-27 and have 3 wireless receivers total that I can feed into the MP3, but typically am going to be hard wiring my boom pole in. I can bring in boom pole in wirelessly with the third wireless receiver. I have one battery brick powering the Mix pre 3 and a second battery brick powering one of the wireless receivers. I can't plug in a second or third wireless receiver into any of the bricks if they are already powering something, without getting bad feedback. Just finished listening to a live stream with Curtis Judd and he recommends a Power distribution system that employs filtering to avoid any feedback issues.
the craziest, most compact setup I've ever seen!
If you are a sound recordist with the bag on straps what is the benefit of a wireless boom? If you are sending sound to camera, then yup get it. But what are you gaining when in use you are holding the pole and wearing the bag?
That wireless go headphone trick is absolutely genius. I may use it to transmit sound from my pc to headphones for doing chores around the house!
The RodeLink plug-on transmitter it fairly quiet, and supplies Phantom power for professional shotguns. It also has it's own Headphone jack, so you could send someone out without a bag and they can still hear what they are booming.
Great point!
Have to agree it's a pretty clean set up, but I've been in too many situations where wired mics saved a shoot or event. Just too much RF wandering around to take a chance on wireless alone. Like the charging arrangement. Pretty slick.
After watching this for my 4th time...I think this is my favorite video so far this year.
It’s great - but wireless can fail so I’d need a small recorder (Tascam?) on the boom wired directly to the mike. Note: the plug-on wireless transmitter from the Rode news shooter kit has an audio out ( headphone ) jack in it that could be used for wired backup recording and monitoring - that way you’re covered in case of wireless failure.
Two things, I was going to get a pole with the XLR in it and I was told by an old OP to never get internal cable as it always breaks when you are the biggest paid set of your life. lol I do a Sony XLR wireless adapter on my Shotgun or the Rode Go then that goes to the bag and it works very well. Just my two cents.
I really want to do the wireless headset but I have reservations about the batteries on the Rode go'es for 12hr shoots on top of break up and pops as I use Rode Go's as I said before as a quick shotgun setup or I use to send a scratch track to cameras on set.
"This video was not paid for by outside persons or manufacturers.
No gear was supplied to me for this video."
Yet Deity sent you the wireless system. Not trolling you, just seems like you contradicted yourself. Great video and very insightful. Super setup you have configured!
A very simplified version of this would be with the Saramonic SR-VRM1 and a microphone, preferably an xlr mic. It provides phantom power so no issues there and the sound floor test for noise seems to be quite decent especially for the price. Of course you won't be able to monitor the audio unless youre standing close to the microphone since you plug the recorder straight to the mic but it reduces the point of failures drastically and makes alot of sense for people on a budget trying to get into professional setups
Wow! You've really outdone yourself this time Caleb! Bravo!
These solution videos are pure GOLD ! Thank you 👍👍
OK THAT... is next level gear head stuff. Well done... charging everything with one cord? BRILLIANT!
This is freakin' genius!!! Thank you for coming up with this solution! Why haven't the big-mic companies come up with something like this!?
This is seriously genius! This is a game changer for me right now!!!! Thank you!
If you want the best of both worlds (wireless, and a bulletproof signal), I would go with a Zaxcom setup as you get the recording at the transmitter as well. High cost, but a professional solution for critical applications.
2:48 „Pick this thing up and hit the Rode“ ... hidden message 🤫
This is great! Would you be able to document how you nodded your headphones? I found some 3.5mm jacks already on Amazon and would love to do this to my own Sony monitor headphones. Thanks!
Audio is awesome! 😀 Nice kit!
Thank you Curtis!!!
Im loving the wireless headphone mod but not lovin $200 for Rode wireless go for this option. My first thought was Curtis might have a way to do it a bit cheaper....🤞🤞🤞
@@tompfeiler1426 I still use wired headphones, so not sure I have a better option. 😕
Great to see you here :)
@@tompfeiler1426 $200 for wireless is already dirt dirt cheap :-)
The wireless headphone mod is so clutch!! Honestly that's the biggest take away for me from this. No more long cables and messy cables, especially useful for solo shooters!
So handy!
@@dslrvideoshooter do you have a video where you do the headphone mod ? 🎧, also does the rode go transmit a stereo or mono signal ?
So what battery pack are you using to power the MixPre-3? All you have linked is a general landing page for mobile battery banks, I want to see what can last "weeks and weeks" because I need that lol
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randomfrankp I used a RAVpower model. Any of those big boy USB batteries will work great. I rotate 22000mAh batteries every few weeks.
Side note, love you vids man! Huge keyboard dork so I’m loving your stuff!
Haha nice, cool to hear! Ahhh 22,000mAh should do it, thanks for the info man!
@@randomfrankp Make sure any battery brick you get is capable of USB-C power output. MixPre3 may not power up in full power mode on USB-A style batteries even with a dual USB-A to USB- Cable. On reduced power mode, MixPre3 will only phantom power 2 of the 3 XLR connections. Most battery bricks now can be found with USB-C PD connections.
WOW! my boom pole is on its way to me and I'm looking ate Wireless Gos right now to get me a wireless setup myself!
Sir, this is probably the most practical and beneficial video you have ever made! It would be a fun 'challenge' on your channel to follow up with a "poor man's" version of this same setup using "dirt-poor" alternatives to all the elements and see how low the price could go before it becomes junk.
This is already the poor man's version of said setup 😂.
@@FioreProductions Sound Devices is "poor"? I'm thinking Tascam, Samson mic, Ebay wireless, Neewer pole, etc.
despite the problems inherent to wireless connections (always coming at the worst possible moment) this is pure genius
It is a great design exercise, and everyone can pick any idea they like from it. Similar to a concept-car, in a way...
Your USB power-hub is a goal of mine too, and I hope I can come up with a small enough system, with lots of running time, thanks to that.
Very helpful, thank you so much !
This is excellent! Sony headphone mod alone is brilliant. Just converted mine. So freeing! LOL
yeah dude this rocks. i actually used a bluetooth setup for monitoring and yes there is delay but i only use it if i need to move but yeah i use earbuds that are bluetooth and headphones plugged in. making the boom wireless is a little shaky for me as i've tried that with a sennheiser wireless pack and it was flawless, but... if it's a paid gig i'm going wired and manning up keeping the audio bag on me at all times. but yeah i love your setup for fun projects.
I've been a fan for a while but this setup got my jaw dropped Caleb. Awesome video. Thanks!
Caleb is like the Bob Ross of building production setups. Just when you think "no wtf is he doing" he puts it all together and you're like "whoa you f*cking genius"
This is now the best comment on my channel 😂 Thank you so much Harris!!!
It is tempting but 2 main problem occurs : first your perfect shotgun microphone sound will be processed by deity wireless system than it will come to mix pre3,,seems awkward .
second wireless system reliability .
have you test this system ,sample recording comparison?
Another great video Caleb! I love all the frugal/DIY mods too. It's worth knowing for all Brits out there (Hi from England) that in the UK, don't know about the States, if you are to use a UHF transmitter (*not* 2.4GHz type), you must require a licence from OFCOM, which is most annoying as well as expensive. This point about licencing doesn't get aired very much in many videos about audio on TH-cam, but I thought it should be mentioned.
I have a boom pole with the little Tascam DR 10x plugged in to my xlr shotgun mics (have 3) and Audio Technica m40x headphones. Net of microphone I'm in my wireless boom pole for about $350. I use a Tascam Dr100mk3 for additional recording when needed.
While the one-usb-charges all solution is okay, I would personally recommend one of Anker's USB charging hubs that plug into the wall, I would think otherwise that everything charges fairly slowly.
love that you are wearing a lighting shirt while doing a video just on audio. So meta
I tried this set up using the Rode NTG video mic pro directly into a Tentacle Sync trackE and then to the headphones via a pair of Rode Go’s (transmitter was attached to the headphone socket of the TrackE). What I found was the signal a bit too weak from the Rode gos into the headphones. It would get to a point of volume and then distort. It was ok enough to tell you if it was still on and still recording but not good enough to monitor in the true sense. I love the idea of wireless audio but for reliability nothing beats cables in my experience.
Wow loved this video. I need to match this with the wheeled c-stand setup for the studio.
Thank...God...u exist! Student luv from Full Sail University, Winter Park Orlando.
I just got 4 RØDE Wireless GO’s today and I was planning on doing exactly the same thing with my headphones for monitoring as well (provided I’m not recording 4 people simultaneously). It’s a great idea.
How did that work out for you? I've been looking for a boompole set up with the rode but I see nothing
Caleb, your content is such a useful resource. Thank you for pouring your time and energy into these videos.
The "cyberman-headphones-look" is something I am very familiar with. I have a pair of Bang&Olufson H6 and I just 3M taped a bluetooth receiver to them. Best thing about it: the H6 has TWO 3.5mm ports, so I don't even need to unplug the receiver when using them cabled. :P Looks ridiculous but works great.
Thank you so much! I was just about to by one of the transmitters you were talking about, and now when I get home I’m going to try my rode go!
When you said "I'm going to actually clip the Rode ..." it reminded me that with the gen II and its 32bit clipping impossible feature, saving a clipped recording will only work if the mic is plugged directly in to the unit, and not if the mic is wireless, since a conversion has already happened. At least I think that's how it works?
Sort of - the audio can clip at the transmitter before it even gets to the mixer. So the 32-bit raw feature will still work, but the audio you are sending in has already been distorted (so you would be able to prevent it from being even more distorted). Some transmitters have safeguards against this, like an analog limiter.
Wow, this video has inspired my to go wireless. I'm curious if you have a step by step video or process on how you converted your Sony MDR-7506 to have that 1/4" jack?
Also, can you recommend a comparable wireless LAV kit that has internal battery/USB charging? Thanks!
So you actually can just split the recorders output, connect another rode wireless system and feed it directly into the camera, right? That's AWESOME!! Thanks for sharing!
Absolutely LOVE this set up!! Looking forward to using it myself one day 💯
Thanks for all the great ideas. I currently don’t own any of the Deity hardware but I have some alternates I going to use instead. Thanks for the new project.
Daaaaamn!!!!
This video was awesome.
It would have made my life 10x easier. I wish there was a way to get rid of some of that delay, I’m sure there is something out there. 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿🔥🔥🔥😎😎😎👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
Simply amazing Caleb! And of course you solved your own problem with a quick charging setup without breaking everything down💪
Can’t wait for the next video!
AMAZING!!!!! I need to know how you did the wireless headphones! I am currently using the sennheiser GH4 labs and a zoom h6n, having an audio bag and headphones would be so helpful!
Yeah I need to do this FOR SURE
Wow I was very impressed with the quality of this video and the setup. The quality and issues of full wireless does bother me though. Quality wise and reliability wise. 19 mill delay is more than you would think. Either way I love binging your channel vids!!!
just had a friend loose some audio thanks to drop outs on the Rode wireless go system. It's perfect for wireless headphones though - those things are so light I bet it barely registers on your headphones that there's extra weight to one side! - Annoying that the deity has a self noise issue - I must try it with a pair G3 packs...
Wow this is definitely a game changer! Random question: what camera bag would you recommend for a solo video shooter to use to transport a mirrorless camera with a couple lenses, an on camera shotgun mic, and a wireless lavalier system? I've been using a photo camera backpack and I think I need something I can pick up and put down and just move around quicker without worrying about everything spilling out if it's not closed.
I always loved the DIY/rigging aspect of the channel this was really interesting
Thank you Muhammad! Means a lot man. I really love DIY. Hoping to get back to it more in the future.
Very interesting audio kit, thank you for this video !
Yet, 3 things bother me in this system :
1) I am not sure about having a wireless transmitter stuck next to my head. I have no idea about the power of the transmitter (but still stronger than bluetooth to reach their up to 70m range) and I didn't measure the EMF level. So I can't tell if for sure if this system can be harmful but it may be something to keep in mind.
2) having a wireless system for audio monitoring exposes you to the various problems you can have with wireless : latency, cut, radio interferences, etc. In order to monitor properly the audio and hear any default or issue, the source needs to be flawless.
3) Just a little remark here but is it safe to recharge every devices through a single USB cable and USB hub ?
Building this, for real. I already have a few of the pieces. So excited, thank you!!!
Do it!!!
this guy is crazy , what a setup !!!
Hey, this has become one of my favorite channels for cleverness. You do very nice presentations with innovative solutions. Great work.
With this setup, I found one stumbling block for gear. I have a Rode NTG-3 shotgun mic for my boom setup. How do I provide it with phantom power? Any thoughts on this would be appreciated.
Keep up the great work. And thanks for sharing the knowledge.
One of the best videos i ever seen about audio ! thanks man
Oh you definitely getting GIFed for those sweet moves at 11:48. 😜💯👌
Gerald Undone add lightsabers!
things I enjoy: getting GIFed, when nouns get verbed, filmmaking videos on TH-cam.
You've outdone yourself, Mr. McGiver! Great concept.
This is the very kind of audio setup I've been looking for.
Love the set up. And great explanation of it 🙏🏽😍✌🏽 speechless with the wireless set up for the headset
I love your videos, but I don't even bother with sync sound. I do have a wireless setup but I use the Nux b-3 wireless system to plug one end into the shotgun mic and the other directly into the camera. I have tested several ways to record audio. 1. Just camera audio (which obviously is terrible but used it for comparison purposes). 2. Shotgun mic directly to camera 3. Just audio recorder (zoom h6 with no mic) 4. Audio recorder with shotgun mic plugged in 5. Audio recorder (no mic) plugged directly into camera. 5. Mic plugged into recorder then plugged into camera (i figured this way, you have audio recordings on both camera and recorder as a backup). In the end, the 2 best sounding clips I found were the mic into the audio recorder and mic directly into the camera and even when I compared these 2 (testing noise levels and such) I found no difference in quality and wasn't even noticeable. With my current setup it is wireless and you don't have people crowding the camera. I do this setup mainly because it's just me and my buddy making films and every time we try to get crew, they always become unreliable.
Good find on the Rode Wireless Go Caleb and Aaron. The only thing I'd note is it is only a mono setup as opposed to a dedicated wireless headphones. Shouldn't matter for filming applications though provided both channels are mixed centre on the headphone socket. I have the mix-pre 6 - great mixer/recorder - very versatile.
That setup is cool and all and I normally always totally agree with you but that is way too much trust in a wireless system. One of those things can easily go wrong. I found that using wires are the most annoying but at the end of the day it is the safest option.
The Røde Wireless Go will only transmit a mono mix, right? As they are for one microphone originally. Am I right, or are you getting a stereo signal into your headphones?
my goodness this is genius 👏👏👏👏 11:01
Nice tight little kit. You didn’t show off how awkward adjusting the gain/trim is on the mix pre 3 in a bag. Especially with headphones plugged in.
It's about time you went with an all wireless audio set up.
Damn, Thanos Caleb snapped his fingers once and vanquished all cables from existence! Excellent video good Sir, thank you for your awesome work!
Actually, only half the cables. The rest of them were short balanced audio cables and short USBs which he just hid. lol
@@davearmano5344 Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.
you can also plug the rode on the camera! now you have sync audio too
Outstanding! Absolutely love this idea. Audio is always the pain.
Does the bag get pretty hot once running with all that gear running? Great portable setup.
So many brilliant ideas in this bag! You've really pushed the envelope on this one CALEBBBB - I'm not up to Sound Devices budget just yet, but my H6 is dying some some Diety Mics to fill it up with some quality audio..... Great vid brotha
I can tell you're really excited about this haha. Really cool setup!
I love the attention to detail.
What an amazing setup! I really hope technology keeps improving and make this possible at a lower price.
Excellent Caleb! You really did it this time! Awesome Solution!
Cool! Thank you for the video! Now (4 years later) I wonder if there is another way (maybe easier) set-up? Are there already wireless mics that can be connected to a camera even? And I don't mean those lav mics. Would be great if could help me out with that.
So many takeaways from this video. Great job!!
Perfectly balanced, as all things should be
Love wireless audio setups! Slick trick with those headphones.
Thank you sir Tommy!