i feel like the cargo could potentially be too abusable, like buying frostmill cargo then resetting and selling it all at revenna. besides that everything else makes sense ships should definitely despawn after sometime with you not being at the wheel.
i dont think they should automatically despawn at all, actually. I think that after a certain amount of time you should get an option to despawn the boat.
The "downfall" of the player count is normal for literally all games that peak upon release and then still stay popular, just at a lesser degree. Also a lot of people probably will not play the game until the update drops and there is more content added to the story and game, where i can see the player count rising a ton again.
arcane reborn just turned into a dungeon crawler and its really hard to actually beat said dungeons without getting like 3 or 4 friends to help dungeons are a nice idea and could be really fun if executed well, not making it impossible to beat solo but having friends helps
@@jazzierdude9654 ao players sailing for 20mins from Ravenna to redwake for their cargo for the 100th time “is fun doe” (I like ao just saying it’s the same thing)
If cargos respawned it could be easily abused. Imagine buying cargo at Redwake and you just reset, you would respawn in Ravenna and upon docking your ship you could just sell them without going all that way.
They could make it so if u reset your ship takes 1hp damage which would make it so the game thinks you were attacked and not respawn the cargo This way it'll only work if u accidentally disconnected and no way else
@@Jonesloto but in AA you could become decently strong in all aspects, whereas in AO, if you invest across the board, you become weak in most areas. I personally preferred the old stats system
akursius keep as a dungeon would ruin it, the eeriness comes from the lack of enemies and having to piece together the story and draw your own conclusions
The player count for Arcane Reborn dropped well before AO released. AR had this massive update but it has an extremely new player unfriendly community along with some issues in the discord. It had a spike in players and then not even a month later went back to getting 100-150 players a day.
arcane odyssey just released and already has allot to offer, from early to endgame you'd still have allot to accomplish which in the arcane franchise is pretty relevant. Although they released the early access with an unfinished storyline it's still pretty decent nonetheless with it being more bearable to play than wom. Not saying its perfect though, bugs are still an issue though, some being game breaking like the sharks and sea monsters not working which i hope they'll fix. I've had a very fun time playing it, still grinding for the leaderboard, i just hope they'll balance out the classes and nerf mage as well as polishing the game for a better experience. (framerate issues are apparent as of now)
another thing, i think AO should remove level requirements for the story quests, because they're actually such a pain to grind to, ESPECIALLY when you get to sailor's lodge, but arcane reborn doesnt have those, and instead, lets you fail first to know when you need to get stronger gear
To be honest, I kinda disagree. Every boss is always the same and is usually difficult; this is true. HOWEVER, doing these bosses at certain levels makes PERFECT SENSE because vetex wants u to be prepared for the fight (i.e. having enough stats for fighting general Argos). I think the solution to this problem (yes I do agree the leveling part is the problem) is to implement more repeatable quests (good xp and galleons) between levels in which are currently hard to progress through (i.e. lvl 83 to lvl 93 at sailors lodge).
@@suprafastsammmy going from frostmill to the stepping stones shouldn't need a level requirement, bro...like, there isnt anything you're going to do that requires being level 40 other than the quests, and even then its seriously flawed. if theres going to be level requirements, it should at least be right before a boss, or some big mission, but NOT from traveling to another island, but even then, if you fought a boss while being underleveled, you can just leave the island and go grind levels
What Arcane Reborn did better than Arcane Odyssey is letting the Arcane Government keep their vanities, Gravy outfit looks so dry that we get mistaken as NPCs.. still loyal to the Grand Navy tho
Being able to save cargo on a ship means that I can hop on my friend's ship and respond my boat at the sale destination. This eliminates all risk for cargo so I have to disagree on that one
It's sad to see reborn in such a state. It was finally its own thing and Vetex goes back to arcane adventures. I respect the team that did reborn and its quite sad to see the community and players it fostered all leave it. I don't know a single person from its hayday that still plays it.
Honestly, my only opinion with this is that I like AO and WoM because they aren't dungeon crawlers or have that function. I like the real open world feeling in it.
That ship despawn mechanic issue with cargo could (to my stupid observations, because I am not a developer) be easily fixed by instead of automatically de-spawning your ship, it gives you a "Dock [Ship Type] / Despawn [Ship Type]" button so you won't lose your unholy amount of cargo you have on your ship, but still have the luxury of being able to despawn your ship by will without needing to die/reset in AO.
This could be abused since the way spawning works in ao, you can immediately go back to Ravenna as u reset and then just sell cargo there. But there is a solution where this could work. I just don't know it yet.
i think that problem is sorta mitigated in odyssey where you cant re-dock your ship if it still has things on it so they can kinda make it lso that if there is still cargo on your ship, it would still despawn
I played AR when it was in beta and it really was just AA redone, and it has been amazing to see the devs go from an AA copy to really start to build their own game and community (also i am so glad i got the beta band cause it is such a good hybrid equipment to have throughout the game)
yeah in arcane odyssey they dont want boss to be to insane also they want player to learn but cannot be to hard on them and the different when u fighting argos as example when u was level 80 and level 125 is way diff cause u are tankier but that mean when u fighting argos in level 125 u will notice that u starting to understand slowly how they move and already remember the movement this will help player to make new character file.-accept lord elius got me cry already in 2nd phase even tho i got him to 1/4 health wat da hell
i think the cargo issue that you mentioned is sorta fixed? in odyssey where you cant redock/customize/change ships while there's still stuff on your ship, they could just implement the mechanic of faster ship despawns and it would probably work perfectly the only issue that i can think of is the ship just despawning as you just walk on it but that might be easily prevented
I agree with the ship spawning idea and I also think they should change the way players spawn after dying. If your spawn point is set to ravenna and you die somehow on a far away island than you will have to wait for your ship and sail all the way back which is tedious imo.
As someone who use to play a lot of arcane reborn i double tap dash on accident as often as i do for arcane odyssey the dungeons in arcane reborn are ass they dont have any good loot to farm that isnt in the 1/500 range of chances and arent fun at all because of how the bosses are made and are mandatory to progress the game so playing solo is like pain and i dont have a problem with ship not reseting when u get of fthem because i dont forget where my ship is but after u die it should be like 1 minute cd on when ur ship respawns
Also i dont like the idea of ships despawning if u not on the wheel because i get off my ship and check my items alot when im sailing in a straight line it be real annoying for me to have respawn my ship just because im not driving it
I dont think what you talked about is real issues that are to detriment of game experience,but good point none the less But cargo saving up might be a bit busted
The chart is the only thing that makes me love this game so much, such an amazing event which makes so many people anxious which is just so amazing if a game can do that to you
A good way to go about the cargo point is to probably make it so that everytime you have cargo on board your ship, a button appears somewhere on the screen to despawn it, and if you press it, you'll have confirmation if you're sure you wanna despawn it despite the cargo onboard. Other than that, great points!!
3:50 Oh boy. This pretty much breaks the game for me sometimes Arcane Odyssey is great. It has lots to learn and improve, but to me it is a general upgrade from Vetex's previous project which conquered my childself's heart. But the dash system just sucks the way it is implemented. They made bosses/mini-bosses very smart (in roblox terms), they have articulate fight moves, dodge and are all-in-all actually menacing So you better be on your feet! But the dodging is so volatile you have to be really careful, you can be dynamically moving around to make sure you are avoiding the boss's attacks and then bam...aciddentally dodged yourself out of the arena. And if you're fighting in the sky islands...oh boy. Have fun falling down to the sea and having to reset yourself or climb back up, and lose a bunch of money because of it the first time you fall. It just ends up being a frustrating mechanic
Respectfully, I disagree with all these points. FIRST OF ALL, if you don’t like wx2 dashing you can just change it to shift, it doesn’t take long to get used to. SECONDLY, dungeons will make the game to much of a bandit beater. I mean, killing the bandits at frost mill to level 40 makes me want to die(exaggeration). Why would you want that to be a big part of the game? Some might say that to level 83 and 93 and 119 are also there, but those are parts of the story where they want you to explore get better gear and prepare for and epic boss fight or awakening. Also Vertex is working on how they can make frost mill bandits to level 40 quicker or change it entirely. LASTLY, if you could just get cargo from red wake and reset and spawn at revena and sell your cargo to double you galleons every time? Don’t you think that could be abused? The amount you can get from cargo shipping is crazy and is supposed to come with risks. Tanks if you read the whole thing lol.
Arcane reborn has more players I don't think it counts the players in first sea seccond and third together since they're different servers if u know what I mean, the arcane reborn is the chance creation thing/screen
it does count if you dont believe it look at the the player count then look how many people are on the roblox server list then check the the in game server list and add the first sea player and second sea player count together, you will see the majority of player will be on the first sea and the second sea while there's either 1 server or non at all on the roblox server list
The dodge movement is better with shift, which you can enable in the settings. and yes it's inconvinient at first but it's 100 times better when you get used to it
Arcane Odyssey is also early access, and specifically says that balancing and tweaks like what you mentioned are going to be added later Also, pretty sure dungeons are in the trello to be added way later, just sayin
I kinda disagree with idea of dungeons, cuz AR is NOT A CANON, devs can put anything in it and it would not change anything in arcane universe, but AO is a canon, and the story is only about one player, but AR type dungeon is a very hard for newbie to complete solo. Even the story is not about dungeons, it's about destroying order, which have powerfull members from all war sea, story simply don't need any dungeons.
@@NanoNano-tk7ev Well I just used lore document to judge what is canon or not (AR have some things that vary from lore doc like fighting rupin in third sea ).
bro its so easy to add a dungeon into the story, for example, they can place an order leader inside of a dungeon. dungeons are generally a pretty cool idea.
ships should only be able to despawn when items are not on them, and when you die (even if there is items on it) the ship will respawn with nothing on it.
Ppl complain about level requirements but think about it , alright u will go defeat all the bosses get all storyline exp and then what? U're gonna grind all of that exp anyways
Literally the only way this point could get negated is if you have friends helping you progress through the game. Majority of players will get dogwalked trying to speed run the game if the went to fight bosses at low levels
Jones tellin me this game did better than arcane odyssey But my eyes tell me I won't be playing this game without getting blinded by the graphics It's so colorful that my eyes fill with blood trying not to pop out Even the animations are garbage
Bro arcane reborn has already no point. Arcane already is reborn in Arcane Odyssey. Arcane Odyssey is just better, it has like 3 weeks of living but they added so much stuff, but this ain't all their work to do, only a single part. Also because of the big update of Arcane reborn I lost 99% of my items and especially for some reason EVERY legendary item. Arcane reborn is really dead, last time I saw it there were 26 playera online, and I think they are still there because they are saying goodbye to their progress. Arcane odyssey also is just created by the creator of Arcane Adventures so yeah that's it
I mean AO just released not very long ago and as of now all you can do after beating the game is grind save files before Kai and Merlot farming gets patched, or min-max you stats, gear and ship. Or you can grind fame and bounty. Makes sense player count would drop a bit tho as of typing this comment 19k players active is still a large amount compared to some other games. (Tho I agree its player count has dropped a good amount since the highest I saw it was at 30k)
@@Jonesloto nah bro think bout it, the pvp is genuinely awful and the entire meta is just weapon class/mage because both have extremely easy to land moves with no punish window, high aoe, and high dmg. and then after that all you need is good wifi and youre a top tier player
@Jonesloto yeah but in the current state it's awful, and that's what the original comment was referring to. can't wait for vetex to roll out more updates though, ao is definitely my favorite game of all time (and the best game on roblox)
id like to say that they also need to put more shipwrights for villains cause its for example your boat is hella low then a random fleet of navy decided to spawn next to u wt ur boat having 100 hp u need to hammer that thing hard just to get away and its not even sure ur gonna get away cause those npcs will follow u to the end of the world
well, I'd like to push back a lil bit. I still haven't done all there is to do in AO and it's in early access. Imagine what would happen when the next sea comes out
@@Jonesloto You know what Vetex REALLY needs to take note of? the server list feature from AR, this makes it so that if your either an adventure type player who preffers a low player count, or a PvP player who wants some action, you can find a server and go there, heck if your trying to find a server with enough space to play with a group of friends, you can do it. But AO? its completely random, not even the website server count can see the server count anymore, its just the lobby, which in my opinion is pretty stupid.
I think AR had a brilliant future if Azlan (FlameEmber06) didnt gave that much freedom to the devs. The devs started being a pain in every aspect and everyone disliked them for how biased everyone in their clan or their friends in general were. I have like 1.3k hours of AR and i dont think the game sucks, Vetex in the other hand is a better dev than Azlan 100% though. AO is better in every aspect being a Early Access game
I'll go into further detail in another video. But the way the code worked in Arcane Adventures, roblox didn't allow it anymore and so it broke arcane adventures.
I don’t think this is valid, it’s an early access game that if buggy, also I need to ask a question, if you thing AO isn’t as good as reborn, then that’s basically saying arcane reborn’s devs are better, so, who gave the whole idea and original form of arcane reborn? Vetex, who made AO? Again, vetex, if it weren’t for AA then arcane reborn wouldn’t exist.
@@Jonesloto Cool! hopefully vetex sees this video before he goes an vacation and tells one of the staff to do it before he goes.. but I think he only has testers, and he's the only developer. Correct?
1 = Arcane Odyssey is early access, and wont be finished for a long time. 2 = Arcane Reborn if you didnt know, has one of the most TOXIC communities to exist. The devs abuse their power, giving extreme bias to members of their clans. (If you want to try to say they dont, ive seen a clip of one of the devs spamming legendary weapon moves at above max level to infamy farm. You cant trick me.) 3 = Vetex ALONE is a better dev than the entire AR team several times over, and in the time it took Vetex to release Odyssey, they released... one major update. just one. and it was a fucking REVAMP with barely any new content. They took that long to release a mere REVAMP while Vetex was creating a new game with almost no help, and before you say he had alot of systems already made for it, he still had a TON of work to do. In summary, if you think AR is better then AO, you are clearly brainwashed.
i would assume that vetex had nearly nothing from AA considering the fact that he had to ditch the game, since yknow he had to rewrite it completely. this means he made ao from scratch bro, vetex is insane
@@Jason-rw9ez AO was created it the same place as WoM so he had some mechanic carried over like sunken item, spell customization, and some other stuff that i dont know about because i didnt play WoM
@Rafi_Imam oh yeah I forgot about wom lmao, I only considered aa to ao but wom is in between, even then he still did a massive amount of work and he still did tweak many things from wom onto ao
I think by releasing game as a "early access" means hey we made a game but its not done yet! Can you tell me the basises of game is good? Also in my opinion vetex was about to release the game later but everyone wanted to try it. And its better to lose all of your cargo when you die because they give you money for the risk so its sensible. Also I didn't understand the part you said when you left ship it despawns, its not true your ship will stay until you die. Also dungeons is a good idea but there in the world you can claim islands and build something and people can bounty hunt you. You shouldnt enter the dungeon from open map they should make a special lobby for it. So why i said L video just because you are comparing a early access game and a copy game in features they show us.
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i feel like the cargo could potentially be too abusable, like buying frostmill cargo then resetting and selling it all at revenna. besides that everything else makes sense ships should definitely despawn after sometime with you not being at the wheel.
OK, this is a FANTASTIC point 👆
i dont think they should automatically despawn at all, actually. I think that after a certain amount of time you should get an option to despawn the boat.
or just a button despawn if you wasnt at the wheel for more than 2 min
bro did you even play odyssey? thats not even possible
I think I good option would be to have it respawn if you leave a certain range of your ship
The "downfall" of the player count is normal for literally all games that peak upon release and then still stay popular, just at a lesser degree. Also a lot of people probably will not play the game until the update drops and there is more content added to the story and game, where i can see the player count rising a ton again.
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Also people waiting for ao updates will probably just jump back on ar until ao updates.
arcane reborn just turned into a dungeon crawler and its really hard to actually beat said dungeons without getting like 3 or 4 friends to help
dungeons are a nice idea and could be really fun if executed well, not making it impossible to beat solo but having friends helps
They can increase the difficulty of the dungeons if we are in party and lower the difficulty if we are doing a solo. It’s that easy
Arcane Reborn players solo farming prom dungeon for the 1000th only to get the same shit again: "is still fun doe"
@@jazzierdude9654 ao players sailing for 20mins from Ravenna to redwake for their cargo for the 100th time “is fun doe” (I like ao just saying it’s the same thing)
@@ninjadxg except one is just a galleon farm and a somewhat decent exp farm while the other is a necessity to grind endlessly to get good geat
Just lvl up and get beter gear
If cargos respawned it could be easily abused. Imagine buying cargo at Redwake and you just reset, you would respawn in Ravenna and upon docking your ship you could just sell them without going all that way.
They could make it so if u reset your ship takes 1hp damage which would make it so the game thinks you were attacked and not respawn the cargo
This way it'll only work if u accidentally disconnected and no way else
I liked how you could use magic, weapons and martial arts at the same time in adventures. About dungeons, I think Akursius Keep could be one.
Using everything at the same time is the "Savant" build in arcane odyssey. You can do this.
but if u are using savant just remember not to put points in vitality cuz armour is waaaaaaaaaaay better
@@Jonesloto but in AA you could become decently strong in all aspects, whereas in AO, if you invest across the board, you become weak in most areas. I personally preferred the old stats system
akursius keep as a dungeon would ruin it, the eeriness comes from the lack of enemies and having to piece together the story and draw your own conclusions
The Dark sea will have a mechanic where u can raid and get new unique drops so I think vetex kinda checks the box in dungeons
The player count for Arcane Reborn dropped well before AO released. AR had this massive update but it has an extremely new player unfriendly community along with some issues in the discord. It had a spike in players and then not even a month later went back to getting 100-150 players a day.
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arcane odyssey just released and already has allot to offer, from early to endgame you'd still have allot to accomplish which in the arcane franchise is pretty relevant. Although they released the early access with an unfinished storyline it's still pretty decent nonetheless with it being more bearable to play than wom. Not saying its perfect though, bugs are still an issue though, some being game breaking like the sharks and sea monsters not working which i hope they'll fix. I've had a very fun time playing it, still grinding for the leaderboard, i just hope they'll balance out the classes and nerf mage as well as polishing the game for a better experience. (framerate issues are apparent as of now)
mage is getting nerfed in next update
cool game but the community kinda killed it
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another thing, i think AO should remove level requirements for the story quests, because they're actually such a pain to grind to, ESPECIALLY when you get to sailor's lodge, but arcane reborn doesnt have those, and instead, lets you fail first to know when you need to get stronger gear
ye level requirements is kinda dumb since bosses are hard enough as is and they would act as a soft level requirement anyways
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He loves to parry dodge and block.
To be honest, I kinda disagree. Every boss is always the same and is usually difficult; this is true. HOWEVER, doing these bosses at certain levels makes PERFECT SENSE because vetex wants u to be prepared for the fight (i.e. having enough stats for fighting general Argos). I think the solution to this problem (yes I do agree the leveling part is the problem) is to implement more repeatable quests (good xp and galleons) between levels in which are currently hard to progress through (i.e. lvl 83 to lvl 93 at sailors lodge).
@@suprafastsammmy going from frostmill to the stepping stones shouldn't need a level requirement, bro...like, there isnt anything you're going to do that requires being level 40 other than the quests, and even then its seriously flawed. if theres going to be level requirements, it should at least be right before a boss, or some big mission, but NOT from traveling to another island, but even then, if you fought a boss while being underleveled, you can just leave the island and go grind levels
the level requirement should just be removed if you have completed the story on your 1st slot
What Arcane Reborn did better than Arcane Odyssey is letting the Arcane Government keep their vanities, Gravy outfit looks so dry that we get mistaken as NPCs.. still loyal to the Grand Navy tho
This is actually something I agree with. I prefer seeing my outfit instead of the stupid sailor uniform you get from the grand navy
Being able to save cargo on a ship means that I can hop on my friend's ship and respond my boat at the sale destination. This eliminates all risk for cargo so I have to disagree on that one
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It's sad to see reborn in such a state. It was finally its own thing and Vetex goes back to arcane adventures. I respect the team that did reborn and its quite sad to see the community and players it fostered all leave it. I don't know a single person from its hayday that still plays it.
Honestly, my only opinion with this is that I like AO and WoM because they aren't dungeon crawlers or have that function.
I like the real open world feeling in it.
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That ship despawn mechanic issue with cargo could (to my stupid observations, because I am not a developer) be easily fixed by instead of automatically de-spawning your ship, it gives you a "Dock [Ship Type] / Despawn [Ship Type]" button so you won't lose your unholy amount of cargo you have on your ship, but still have the luxury of being able to despawn your ship by will without needing to die/reset in AO.
This could be abused since the way spawning works in ao, you can immediately go back to Ravenna as u reset and then just sell cargo there. But there is a solution where this could work. I just don't know it yet.
@@Jonesloto well the whole point of cargo runs are that it is a high risk high reward mechanic. You die and it punishes you justifiably
i think that problem is sorta mitigated in odyssey where you cant re-dock your ship if it still has things on it
so they can kinda make it lso that if there is still cargo on your ship, it would still despawn
@@Jonesloto an easy solution would be to just disable ship spawning if it has treasure or cargo on the ship
I played AR when it was in beta and it really was just AA redone, and it has been amazing to see the devs go from an AA copy to really start to build their own game and community (also i am so glad i got the beta band cause it is such a good hybrid equipment to have throughout the game)
yeah in arcane odyssey they dont want boss to be to insane also they want player to learn but cannot be to hard on them and the different when u fighting argos as example when u was level 80 and level 125 is way diff cause u are tankier but that mean when u fighting argos in level 125 u will notice that u starting to understand slowly how they move and already remember the movement this will help player to make new character file.-accept lord elius got me cry already in 2nd phase even tho i got him to 1/4 health wat da hell
prometheos and theos are insane though
i think the cargo issue that you mentioned is sorta fixed? in odyssey where you cant redock/customize/change ships while there's still stuff on your ship, they could just implement the mechanic of faster ship despawns and it would probably work perfectly
the only issue that i can think of is the ship just despawning as you just walk on it but that might be easily prevented
I agree with the ship spawning idea and I also think they should change the way players spawn after dying. If your spawn point is set to ravenna and you die somehow on a far away island than you will have to wait for your ship and sail all the way back which is tedious imo.
Set a campsite
This is why we use camp sites
I think suggestions are open again
As someone who use to play a lot of arcane reborn i double tap dash on accident as often as i do for arcane odyssey the dungeons in arcane reborn are ass they dont have any good loot to farm that isnt in the 1/500 range of chances and arent fun at all because of how the bosses are made and are mandatory to progress the game so playing solo is like pain and i dont have a problem with ship not reseting when u get of fthem because i dont forget where my ship is but after u die it should be like 1 minute cd on when ur ship respawns
Also i dont like the idea of ships despawning if u not on the wheel because i get off my ship and check my items alot when im sailing in a straight line it be real annoying for me to have respawn my ship just because im not driving it
I dont think what you talked about is real issues that are to detriment of game experience,but good point none the less
But cargo saving up might be a bit busted
Ofc the game experience in ao is just fine. I was just saying there's always room for improvement 😎
I remember me and my friend used to play ar tbh I think its better at the moment but you have to remember that ao just released
I know this. I didn't claim AR was better than AO
Haven’t played but i agree based on your points
still, game’s been out for like less than a month and its in early access chill out with badgering it
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I mean, the game is still in early access. You don't expect a seed you just planted to grow fruits the next day, right? Give vetex some time.
I am only raising feature suggestions!! I'm not saying AR is better overall than AO.
Just be a 5 Star Notoriety Villain then the whole world becomes a dungeon lol.
true lol
The chart is the only thing that makes me love this game so much, such an amazing event which makes so many people anxious which is just so amazing if a game can do that to you
this is the hottest take i've ever seen.
@@Jonesloto just to make sure we're on the same page I mean the legendary chart on AR lol
@@Logeo2 I KNOW
@@Logeo2 ahh ok
AR legend chart is a balanced mechanic changed my mind
A good way to go about the cargo point is to probably make it so that everytime you have cargo on board your ship, a button appears somewhere on the screen to despawn it, and if you press it, you'll have confirmation if you're sure you wanna despawn it despite the cargo onboard. Other than that, great points!!
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ship only despawn if it gets destroyed or the player dies and if a player die you have 2 minutes to get to the wheel to make it not despawn
3:50 Oh boy.
This pretty much breaks the game for me sometimes
Arcane Odyssey is great. It has lots to learn and improve, but to me it is a general upgrade from Vetex's previous project which conquered my childself's heart.
But the dash system just sucks the way it is implemented.
They made bosses/mini-bosses very smart (in roblox terms), they have articulate fight moves, dodge and are all-in-all actually menacing
So you better be on your feet! But the dodging is so volatile you have to be really careful, you can be dynamically moving around to make sure you are avoiding the boss's attacks and then bam...aciddentally dodged yourself out of the arena.
And if you're fighting in the sky islands...oh boy. Have fun falling down to the sea and having to reset yourself or climb back up, and lose a bunch of money because of it the first time you fall.
It just ends up being a frustrating mechanic
Respectfully, I disagree with all these points. FIRST OF ALL, if you don’t like wx2 dashing you can just change it to shift, it doesn’t take long to get used to. SECONDLY, dungeons will make the game to much of a bandit beater. I mean, killing the bandits at frost mill to level 40 makes me want to die(exaggeration). Why would you want that to be a big part of the game? Some might say that to level 83 and 93 and 119 are also there, but those are parts of the story where they want you to explore get better gear and prepare for and epic boss fight or awakening. Also Vertex is working on how they can make frost mill bandits to level 40 quicker or change it entirely. LASTLY, if you could just get cargo from red wake and reset and spawn at revena and sell your cargo to double you galleons every time? Don’t you think that could be abused? The amount you can get from cargo shipping is crazy and is supposed to come with risks. Tanks if you read the whole thing lol.
I did read the whole thing 😂. Shift dashing is fine. I was just talking about how to make the 2xw dash better. The other stuff yh u got a point
Arcane reborn has more players I don't think it counts the players in first sea seccond and third together since they're different servers if u know what I mean, the arcane reborn is the chance creation thing/screen
i think playercount counts for everyone in the entire universe tho not just the start place. correct me if i'm wrong
it does count if you dont believe it look at the the player count then look how many people are on the roblox server list then check the the in game server list and add the first sea player and second sea player count together, you will see the majority of player will be on the first sea and the second sea while there's either 1 server or non at all on the roblox server list
cargo is already that good after they increased the despawn time after death, it won't despawn no matter what to do as long as you're alive
i personally actually dislike the dungeons and prefer the bosses in the open world
The dodge movement is better with shift, which you can enable in the settings. and yes it's inconvinient at first but it's 100 times better when you get used to it
i'll try it out, then
Arcane Odyssey is also early access, and specifically says that balancing and tweaks like what you mentioned are going to be added later
Also, pretty sure dungeons are in the trello to be added way later, just sayin
I really wish you could despawn your ships, a way to do it that i was thinking of is adding a button to shipwrights to despawn your ship.
I feel like cargo should save but you would only respawn at the island you got it at
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arcane reborn IS a good game
honestly it is simply because it was a recreation of arcane adventures, one of the BEST games in roblox
suggestions about your ship despawning all get automatically declined now 😔
@@NanoNano-tk7ev who could've guessed lmao
Jesus like cooksie is just an omnipotent god fr
I kinda disagree with idea of dungeons, cuz AR is NOT A CANON, devs can put anything in it and it would not change anything in arcane universe, but AO is a canon, and the story is only about one player, but AR type dungeon is a very hard for newbie to complete solo. Even the story is not about dungeons, it's about destroying order, which have powerfull members from all war sea, story simply don't need any dungeons.
this makes plenty sense 👍👍
@@NanoNano-tk7ev Well I just used lore document to judge what is canon or not (AR have some things that vary from lore doc like fighting rupin in third sea ).
@@NanoNano-tk7ev Not all things are cannon, like You arent supposed to meet Rupin that early
bro its so easy to add a dungeon into the story, for example, they can place an order leader inside of a dungeon. dungeons are generally a pretty cool idea.
ships should only be able to despawn when items are not on them, and when you die (even if there is items on it) the ship will respawn with nothing on it.
Ppl complain about level requirements but think about it , alright u will go defeat all the bosses get all storyline exp and then what? U're gonna grind all of that exp anyways
Literally the only way this point could get negated is if you have friends helping you progress through the game. Majority of players will get dogwalked trying to speed run the game if the went to fight bosses at low levels
Jones tellin me this game did better than arcane odyssey
But my eyes tell me I won't be playing this game without getting blinded by the graphics
It's so colorful that my eyes fill with blood trying not to pop out
Even the animations are garbage
*WHAT* this game did better not "this game did better" 😭
@@Jonesloto oh
My bad
Sorry, m8
Ye, there are actually some things this game did better doe
The game is still early access and working on the sunken update maybe they might add it in the future I like the raid idea
Bro arcane reborn has already no point. Arcane already is reborn in Arcane Odyssey. Arcane Odyssey is just better, it has like 3 weeks of living but they added so much stuff, but this ain't all their work to do, only a single part.
Also because of the big update of Arcane reborn I lost 99% of my items and especially for some reason EVERY legendary item. Arcane reborn is really dead, last time I saw it there were 26 playera online, and I think they are still there because they are saying goodbye to their progress.
Arcane odyssey also is just created by the creator of Arcane Adventures so yeah that's it
Yeah they didn't add a lot of things which were in Arcane adventures, but remember. Arcane odyssey was made like 3 weeks ago
I mean AO just released not very long ago and as of now all you can do after beating the game is grind save files before Kai and Merlot farming gets patched, or min-max you stats, gear and ship. Or you can grind fame and bounty. Makes sense player count would drop a bit tho as of typing this comment 19k players active is still a large amount compared to some other games. (Tho I agree its player count has dropped a good amount since the highest I saw it was at 30k)
ao pvp is so horrendous, skill ceiling takes about 3 days of playing to reach
debatable
@@Jonesloto nah bro think bout it, the pvp is genuinely awful and the entire meta is just weapon class/mage because both have extremely easy to land moves with no punish window, high aoe, and high dmg. and then after that all you need is good wifi and youre a top tier player
@Jason in April the meta is all about to change
@@Jason-rw9ez damn its almost like there will be balance changes with every update for a reason
@Jonesloto yeah but in the current state it's awful, and that's what the original comment was referring to. can't wait for vetex to roll out more updates though, ao is definitely my favorite game of all time (and the best game on roblox)
I'll never forget the music from Arcane Adventures/Reborn.. That oblitesco music will always hit hard..
Facts ☕️
Honestly I think odyssey is a masterpiece but then again all the arcane games are basically masterpieces
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I feel like the dark sea will bassicaly be an everchanging dungeon
You also gotta remember this game is not even close to finished
I know this!! This video was basically an ao suggestions vid.
should i play reborn? rn AO is being hacked or smth so i dont wanna play for now.
ig, but that game ain't getting updated either.
I changed dash from double tap to shift and all my dash problems were gone😳
we can also state lots of things world of magic did better than arcane odyssey (bring back exiled i love him)
thx for the vid idea
id like to say that they also need to put more shipwrights for villains cause its for example your boat is hella low then a random fleet of navy decided to spawn next to u wt ur boat having 100 hp u need to hammer that thing hard just to get away and its not even sure ur gonna get away cause those npcs will follow u to the end of the world
it had more content than arcane odyssey. it will be more content in the future and i hope it will be impressive
well, I'd like to push back a lil bit. I still haven't done all there is to do in AO and it's in early access. Imagine what would happen when the next sea comes out
@@Jonesloto it going to be big and with how high the levels will get its going to be huge
honestly i like the story better in arcane reborn/adventures
I enjoyed the third sea in AA, I hope nimbus sea in AO can take some notes 👀👀
@@Jonesloto You know what Vetex REALLY needs to take note of? the server list feature from AR, this makes it so that if your either an adventure type player who preffers a low player count, or a PvP player who wants some action, you can find a server and go there, heck if your trying to find a server with enough space to play with a group of friends, you can do it. But AO? its completely random, not even the website server count can see the server count anymore, its just the lobby, which in my opinion is pretty stupid.
@@xanthiusdrake2775 I FORGOT TO MENTION THIS IN THE VIDEO >:(
Bro AO just released......
@@DamnDort That does not really effect what I said though, it is still something Vetex should add to AO.
“You guys we’re able to do it together”😏😏😏🤨🤨🤨
im pretty sure flame ember is a tester/ dev for arcane odyssey
idk if he is
For the last one, how about when you put down the plank, your ship is exempt from the timer and you can still do cargo
Idk if the timer thing would be practical. If u gonna do something like that u might as well add despawning manually.
i play arcane odyssey alot that i forgot arcane reborn drop chests on sunken ships
arcane odyssey will have this
Fort talos? I mean that’s a dungeon
not rlly..
❤the content
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I think AR had a brilliant future if Azlan (FlameEmber06) didnt gave that much freedom to the devs. The devs started being a pain in every aspect and everyone disliked them for how biased everyone in their clan or their friends in general were. I have like 1.3k hours of AR and i dont think the game sucks, Vetex in the other hand is a better dev than Azlan 100% though. AO is better in every aspect being a Early Access game
so u a true AR veteran 👀👀
@@Jonesloto Kinda but im not proud of it, also fvk Malice and their members
dark sea is basically what the dungeon idea is
Good point!!
not sure if a dungeon is the same the as a raid, but a raid would be cool
arcane reborn is the game of all time
how did u get lvl 500 then lvl 5000 in 1 sec?
See this video for more th-cam.com/video/d4n_KjHrvy8/w-d-xo.html
@@Jonesloto ik i saw the vid before commenting here
@ITT59Gamer I was streaming that one time and a mod just randomly gave me lvls 😂
@@Jonesloto oh
@@Jonesloto when is 4th sea building was 80% finished 31 dec 2022
who down to play some arcane reborn?
Just make it so cargo prevents ship despawn, lol
you know in the settings in AO have a shift to dash right?
yes i know this. the point was double tap was broken.
@@Jonesloto oh ok i still like your video :)
Wish the community want hurting tho but yeah true.
Also 25 mins
fishing simulator.
Well done on this video, unfortunately it has caused a lot of controversy in the comments! 😂
I love it 😂
Mannn arcane reborn ☕️
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they should add difficult dungeons in AO
what does filteringEnabled do and how it broke AA
I'll go into further detail in another video. But the way the code worked in Arcane Adventures, roblox didn't allow it anymore and so it broke arcane adventures.
Honestly I think AO is better than AR in every aspect.
This is valid
There's no way bro ☠
I can explain ‼️
AO is extremely new, cut it some slack.
I do
bro i hate dungeons smh
I don’t think this is valid, it’s an early access game that if buggy, also I need to ask a question, if you thing AO isn’t as good as reborn, then that’s basically saying arcane reborn’s devs are better, so, who gave the whole idea and original form of arcane reborn? Vetex, who made AO? Again, vetex, if it weren’t for AA then arcane reborn wouldn’t exist.
The title says "**What** This Game Did Better than Arcane Odyssey". Not "This Game Did Better Than Arcane Odyssey, Here's Why"
Is AR still being worked on?
Yes. But it's quite slow 🐌
@@Jonesloto i was just wondering because after finishing arcane odyssey I played AR and enjoy the story much more in ar than in ao
do u really think dungeons arent gonna come its a rpg for crying out loud goofy
It's not listed as a planned feature tho (I think)
BUT we'll see.
Does this mean you hate Arcane Odyssey and won't make anymore videos on it or smth?
nononno I enjoy arcane odyssey.
@@Jonesloto oh... then if this video isn't a hate video what is it? sorry I'm like this sometimes.
@@HeroOfBen10 it's an update ideas video.
@@Jonesloto Cool! hopefully vetex sees this video before he goes an vacation and tells one of the staff to do it before he goes.. but I think he only has testers, and he's the only developer. Correct?
@@Jonesloto love ur videos btw c:
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@@Jonesloto ?
nothing tbh the game is too buggy
I am always watching jones
I just noticed i was in the video
Nice! User?
Blasphemy.
jk but ye
1 = Arcane Odyssey is early access, and wont be finished for a long time.
2 = Arcane Reborn if you didnt know, has one of the most TOXIC communities to exist.
The devs abuse their power, giving extreme bias to members of their clans. (If you want to try to say they dont, ive seen a clip of one of the devs spamming legendary weapon moves at above max level to infamy farm. You cant trick me.)
3 = Vetex ALONE is a better dev than the entire AR team several times over, and in the time it took Vetex to release Odyssey, they released... one major update.
just one. and it was a fucking REVAMP with barely any new content.
They took that long to release a mere REVAMP while Vetex was creating a new game with almost no help, and before you say he had alot of systems already made for it, he still had a TON of work to do.
In summary, if you think AR is better then AO, you are clearly brainwashed.
He saying what AR some right did better watch the video
@@noman8477 AR did nothing better lmao
its a shithole
i would assume that vetex had nearly nothing from AA considering the fact that he had to ditch the game, since yknow he had to rewrite it completely. this means he made ao from scratch bro, vetex is insane
@@Jason-rw9ez AO was created it the same place as WoM so he had some mechanic carried over like sunken item, spell customization, and some other stuff that i dont know about because i didnt play WoM
@Rafi_Imam oh yeah I forgot about wom lmao, I only considered aa to ao but wom is in between, even then he still did a massive amount of work and he still did tweak many things from wom onto ao
L video
explain
Hold on lemme watch
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I think by releasing game as a "early access" means hey we made a game but its not done yet! Can you tell me the basises of game is good? Also in my opinion vetex was about to release the game later but everyone wanted to try it. And its better to lose all of your cargo when you die because they give you money for the risk so its sensible. Also I didn't understand the part you said when you left ship it despawns, its not true your ship will stay until you die. Also dungeons is a good idea but there in the world you can claim islands and build something and people can bounty hunt you. You shouldnt enter the dungeon from open map they should make a special lobby for it.
So why i said L video just because you are comparing a early access game and a copy game in features they show us.
Idk nothing?
I play AO cuz the storyline
Forgot to mention you also have dev bias, so you cant talk.
L.
a dev bias?
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W game
cl u need help
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First!