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- Serge, Wheeler, and Nelson continue through their Modern Horizons 3 set review. Today going through the Green and Gold cards of the set.
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Just wanted to say: when talking about 'Thief of existence' the part that the permanent has to be noncreature got missed. So sadly it does not exile initiative creatures or a marit lage token.
Glad you caught it, I was looking for exactly this comment
For those wondering, Wrenn’s treefolk partners don’t die when she leaves them. Whenever her treefolk want to stop traveling, she drops them off and finds a new partner. Six is from Kessig (as are Four and Seven, and why Wrenn and Seven was in MID) and he’s now back there, vibing. As of now, Seven is the only treefolk Wrenn partnered with that is canonically dead.
Assuming you're also not counting realmbreaker (maybe not a treefolk???) who probably also died
@@ScornfulEg0tist not a treefolk in the same way a god is not a human despite being similarly shaped. And also might not be dead entirely?
That's not actually true. Four is said to have died right after she left to find Five (Five is actually the one from Innistrad, not Four, as "it had been a new Plane to her then"). They don't die but they do deanimate, so Six just chilling is still weird. Also, I think the point of thestory in MoM is kinda that Realmbreaker is a tree, but your millage may vary.
@@janmelantu7490this sentence goes so hard i love mtg
@@ScornfulEg0tist If I recall, none of Wrenn's partners were treefolk before she bonded with them. Though I was under the impression they ceased to be treefolk when the bond ended too, so I don't know after this card implies otherwise.
"So tell me more about this new Birthing Pod." I love Nelly as the N100 agitator.
It's just like podding under a worse mindcensor!
Last time I was this early, thirst for knowledge wasn't just why I watched north 100, it was a multi format all-star.
All time banger of a comment
Thirst for knowledge, thirst for discovery, compulsive research, thirst for discovery. Are some of my favorite cards that are basically unplayable lol 😂
Anytime I hear Paul on tech say “hello” I just picture him as the shopkeeper from Frozen, Oaken, who says “Yoo hoo!, Big Summer Blowout.”
"The Hunger Tide Rises is probably a reference to Grist, the Hunger Tide." --Serge, 2024 xP
I nominate "Garbage Pail Kids" for the multi-creature-combo deck
Thief of Existence is so funny to me because not only does countering it not stop the removal, it keeps them from drawing the card as compensation.
Edward P Beard Jr always referred to psychatog as a “basketball with teeth” and lamented the fact that one of his silliest and quickest pieces of art became so iconic in MTG.
47:58 So I went on a whole Wrenn deep dive on one of my streams this past month and her lore is pretty cool. Long story short; she finds trees that can handle her internal fire, if they aren't already sentient, they become sentient, she names them based on when she FIRST bonds to them, before the tree can be overwhelmed by her inner fire she asks them what they want to do; some of them want to go back to their home plane and live as a normal tree, while others might want to maintain sentience or even stay somewhere they weren't native to.
Yes that is an abbreviated version. Def check out her wiki cuz she is cooler than I realized.
In this case, Six is actually alive on Innistrad, after Wrenn leaves them to join with Seven. Seven's attitude toward Six is never clarified, and vice versa.
As a wise commenter once said " time to watch a podcast for a format I don't play cause... Wheeler "
Brainsurge was snubbed at the Oscars
Oof, the way they misread Thief of Existence.
"Noncreature, Nonland." It can get rid of a lot, but it can rid of neither half of Dark Depths, nor any of the Initiative creatures.
Sadistic Glee has one advantage over Blade of the Bloodchief in that it is common, creating an infinite loop for Pauper. o:
1:00:00 Thief of Existence specifies noncreature
Petition to do more beejlander
*reverberate intensifies*
I would love to see Beejlander, but they are allowed to add their 10 points worth of cards
I played some beejlander recently where my opponent declared points before the game
Admittedly it was just treasure cruise, but still
23:36 The song is Powerhouse by Raymond Scott.
I believe Serge was afraid mentioning it might have summoned Graham
Kudo is meant to played in +1/+1 decks, buffing your stuff while making their stuff puny.
Nadu is really stupid with Bristly Bill, Spine Sower, playing a land puts +1/+1, which trigger and maybe puts land, which repeats the process until you don't hit a land. Then do your shuko thing to get the process started again.... you can draw your entire deck.
Jamming a deck with phlage and every 3 cmc reanimation spell they've printed recently 😋😋😋
1 mana lightning helix unlocked
For a while I've been brainstorming a triple mox sultai good stuff deck and mh3 has helped that so much. Pitching new grist to cultivate and untapping and playing like an unearth or something on it and blowing up an urzas saga is pretty cool. So is wrighting a creature away to get a mystic sanctuary to rebuy the reanimate I previously used on one of ur creatures onto another one of ur creatures.
The doot doot doot song is called "Powerhouse" by Raymond Scott, for those wondering.
Probably more in the Commander side of things, but I keep forgetting that Birthing Ritual lets you look before you elect to sac a creature. As such, I'm very into giving it a shot in Bant Blink. Even if I stop going up the ladder pretty quick, I don't hate cashing in my ETB draw creature for a ETB utility creature that mucks some part of my opponent's plan.
Times Serge has said eldraine instead of theros in these set reviews so far: 2
Loving these reviews! I can't wait to get my hands on like, one of every card from this set I can
I am so sad to see Kudo regarded as such a mid card. I think that the card is much much less of a hate bear and is maybe one of the best cards in tokens or go wide strategies. It makes all of your 1/1 and 0/1 deal real damage and become threats, but the best part is that it make them unable to easily trade with. Adeline, rabblemaster, and Anim all make 1/1s that are attacking and can just be blocked without issue, but with Kudo those will probably end up sticking around and adding a lot of damage because you don't want to trade your caves of chaos adventure or white plume adventure to a random 1/1. And Kudo gets so much better with any anthems or counters. Wedding announcement, flowering of the white tree, warleader's call all make you denser board unblockable because your creatures just kill all of you opponents for free. I don't think this card is deck or meta changing. But I think it has the protentional to be the best card in tokens. dies to doom blade tho
Birthing ritual is very good in a recurring nightmare/chthonian nightmare deck, from my experience in gladiator. Especially when you don’t care as much about upgrading because you can get what you sacrificed back easily, so you can cash in a two drop for another two drop.
I am kicking myself for not trying to pick up Phlage earlier. I dont know Modern at all, didnt think the card would be used there. And now its like....40 dollars.
48:00 - "The tree soon to be known as Six"
Alright, hear me out for Flare of Cultivation. Dryad Arbor, sac and free cultivate.
That's the best I got
47:50 "the Tree that Wrenn Used to Know"
I wonder if there’s some version of aristocrats that plays enough green creatures to run the flare of cultivation
my wife has already used Enlightened Tutor to grab a MDFC land in her 4 land belcher deck
Am I misreading Birthing Ritual or does the wording follow such that if you don't sacrifice a creature, you just get to look at the next seven cards without having to tuck them away to the bottom?
(Also the "wheels are turning" music you were thinking of is Powerhouse)
“Put the rest on the bottom of your library” is a separate sentence from all the sacrifice and put into play stuff, and whether you put something into play or not the cards you look at will be “the rest”
Thief of existence says noncreature so it's much more limited
This is the longest set review you have done *so far*
good luck guys
I am suprised Legion Leadership didn't make it. I get that 2 mana is twice as much as berserk, but it just kills people or is a land.
I kind of agree, but being a tapped land is a real downside for Boros compared to the other archetypes they talked about with the dual MDFCs.
Six + Underworld Breach/Mishra's Bauble
I'm glad that they brought up the white flare being better than they were giving it credit, cause of the ones I've tested it *feels* the best imo
when it's in your hand you're just allowed to aggressively disrespect your opponent. yeah I'll tap out and swing my entire board, what are you gonna do? kill me on the crack back? set up a bunch of blocks to trade evenly?
They turned my poor boy (Mwonvuli Acid Moss) into a monster (Sowing Mycospawn)!
Hi paul!
1:12:16 ok so. (Nelsom vaguely touched on this) Kudo while it is technically a hate bear for your opponent's creature I think it shines the MOST in the counters deck because it makes some of your creatures even bigger and makes your side quadruple the size of your opponent's side ya know?
18:14 lol I feel Wheeler's pain in my bones! (because I'm old, and also because I've been saying Eladamri correctly since high school ... which is to say, I'm old)
re-Birthing Ritual:
Bare minimum, it is 1G = EoT look at top 7 cards of your library if you control a creature. That's information. And with as often as you guys tutor, search, and shuffle your decks, that's ever-changing information. It informs you about if you should play aggressive or defensive for the next few turns. That being said, it's not AMAZING even in best-case situations, IMO. I feel it is an easy cut from most decks which would play it, but that some players will find homes for it.
I think Springheart Nantuko could be an Aristocrats card. It just makes a lot of bodies for not very much mana. So long as you can play it, hold priority play a land so you immediately get two bodies, I think you're at least feeling alright about it, and then if it sticks around it just gets better from there. It's pretty close to a Mogg War Marshall, with a lower floor, higher ceiling, and I don't think there's any other card that comes close to that ratio bodies to mana investment without being like double the mana cost or more. Even a lot of the cards that get there in terms of efficiency are like 3 mana and take several turns to realize that value.
Good friend of mine played Upheaval Tog throughout its time in Standard, and he always called it Doctor Teeth. At least that's how I've always known it.
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Wheeler: I hope we don't get too many more (of these lands)
*10 years later*
You know back in my day, the basic lands were single sided...
Can you use birthing ritual to just look at the top seven? like a weird mirri's guile that can cash in fodder creatures in for shuffles and deck manipulation?
I’m sure many peope have said it already but Thief of Existence being ‘noncreature’, nonland is very important :)
The only thing i see King amoung bears being in is green white counters.
It's not relevant for canlander, but Sadistic Glee is a common so you can play it with Basking Broodscale in Pauper
I'm hearing that MH3 provided a great boost to burn/aggro strats since everyone will be playing lands that bolt themselves
I 100% heard Wheeler say "Sabine's Reclamation" and now I'm hoping that means he's been play SWU on the side
I love wheeler having the 'It's under the sauce' voice talking about the MDFC cards. "It's also a land"
Birthing Ritual is also powerful in an aristocrats deck, play turn one a creature that makes another creature when it dies end then get another „free“ creature.
I cant wait for Assassin's Creed/fallout/doctor who to get an episode (maybe 2 but i think one)
Best line ever ... "Sometimes its fine just playing a Giant Spider" brings me back to my start in revised.
Surprised none of yal talked about legion leadership admitadly a land that's also sort of a breaserk on the other side seems very playable
I say the theoretical multi-creature-combo deck should simply be called Garbage Men
Isnt Kodo pretty dece in counters? Everything will constantly be smaller ^^
23:42 that song is Powerhouse by Raymond Scott. It takes a second to get to the part everybody knows.
I gotta say this is the first time I’ve ever disagreed with Wheeler. Birthing Ritual seems really bad.
Thief of existence is interesting because the effect is uncounterable and incentiveses not countering so the opponent can draw a card
Clearly the "all the different combos in one deck" archetype should called combo platter
@47:14 I propose we call the creature mish-mash deck the Meat Buffet style decks.
I actually think Kudo might be sweet in counters, since it's base P/T
the creature combo garbage platter deck should definitely be garbage comrades
Do they have any highlander tournaments besides hosting the championship?
I believe the major criticism of Invert Polarity is that it's not a Cancel/hard counter. It can't actually counter "all of this thing"-type effects, like board wipes, and only half of the time counters spells that only have a single target on the entire board.
I'm thinking of a situation where you use it on a removal spell while they have no creatures on their side to target if you gain control of it.
I am so disappointed that you didn't talk about the new Hunted Wumpus.
Flare of Fortitude then Armageddon. Is that bad in Canlander?
All this Pro MDF Land talk sounds like a plot to make burn better
I feel like Thief Of Existence is a secret multicolour card, since it has two different specific mana requirements. The frame being gold tinted devoid in stead of green tinted might have been a neat choice.
Gold is specifically used for multicolor, and colorless isn't a color, even if it "feels" like one.
Malevolent Rumble is an interesting Impulse for green decks that stores a mana in a chump blocker
Legion Leadership is 2 mana berserk that's also a land
Writhing Crystalis is the 3rd best card in MH3 (limited) but a 2 mana 4/5 reach is surely almost highlander playable
47:02 gotta be garbage zoo or garbage menagerie if its all the a+b creature combos
I'm thinking of Flare of Cultivation as "Cultivate with basic landcycling (0)"
If you sac a mana dork to Flare, you've turned your permanent that taps for mana into a permanent that taps for mana, and the Flare in your hand into a basic land, at no cost. So if that's enough of an improvement on Cultivate to make it worth running again, cool, but you still need to want to run (Better) Cultivate.
So when are we going to see dredge again?
How is Sacpeshift into Field "fair"? XD
Just based on the name, Imskir is from Kaldheim.
Ruining my drive to work tomorrow but I got some brewing to do.
Invert polarity their farewell, win the flip...Oh.
Straight up love this series and you guys are awesome
I think Nelson should be allowed to swear on podcasts
hunger tide rises reminds me a lot of wedding announcement
Honestly, even though I don’t play Canadian highlander, there’s something about these three having a gander about magic that I love
23:37
Powerhouse by Raymond Scott.
18:00 its been too long in the set review without Wheeler dunking on Serge's (lack of) ability to pronounce legendary creatures.
Nelly really said oh that's gore of my comfort card
The Artist Formerly Known As Six.
Actual best application for Birthing Ritual is in dredge to check my top 7 cards so I can decide to draw the top card, or mill my way to the card I want to draw
After looking, you have to put everything left, whether you sacrifice or not, on the bottom in a random order.
You gain no useful information for whether to Dredge or not.
NOOOOO back to Mirri's Guile
Can we name the multiple creature combo deck, Garbage Potluck?
or Garbage Pail Kids.
I want these to go even longer! North 100 Review Episodes are my new Phish shows.
I think I'm a fan of "Garbage Parade"
If constant long set reviews is how this podcast stays weekly im all for this release schedule.
hot bant seeker walk pods in your area
For the Garbage Platter creature version, we can call it Garbage Charcuterie
If you’re not worried about curses. Shartcuterie
Surprised not to hear Elesh Norn Grand Cenobite come up in the Kudo discussion.
So, Shipwreck Dowser in Red, but also better because it's a land. Sweet!
I just want to play Kudo with Norn
"The tree soon to be known as Six"
I wish wheeler was nice to serge :(