DIY 3D Printing Filament Dryer for Under $40 UPDATED TEMPS
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ก.พ. 2018
- Quick little tutorial on how to convert an inexpensive food dehydrator into a filament drying power house.
DISCLAIMER: I do NOT recommend the using the same dehydrator for Filament drying and food dehydration. There are any number of chemicals that can come out of the filament with the moisture and these chemicals could possibly make their way into any food you dry in the same machine, even if you use different trays. Do that at YOUR own risk.
Link to a great dehydrator:
Elite Gourmet EFD770WD Digital Food Dehydrator - amzn.to/3TAWBZj
And here is another from Rosewill for $38 that will work:
amzn.to/2HdMbJj
UPDATED TEMPS AND TIME: To dry the most common FDM Plastics: (all times are a MINIMUM. Feel free to go past)
PLA 45°C (113°F) 4h
ABS 60°C (140°F) 2h
PETG 65°C (149°F) 2h
Nylon 70°C (158°F) 12h
PVA 45°C (113°F) 4h
TPU/TPE 50°C (122°F) 4h
ASA 60°C (140°F) 4h
PP 55°C (131°F) 6h
And you can re-dry your desiccant packs as well
Dessicant 65°C (149°F) 3h
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Tip: after taking the filament out the bag, take out the baggie of silica gel, and put it on an unused part of your heated bed while you're printing, so it regenerates
Big Brain
Put the silica gel in the food dehydrator
It puts the gel in the basket
@@PaulMillhouse7 ... or it gets the hose again
I just used the base and put a bucket from home depot, it fits perfectly
I still pop back to this video when I cant remember times or temps. Thanks Joe Mike
This was an awesome tip.
I found the same device with 9 stages so I can dry more
This appears perfect! Can't hang on to notice similar to this. Great job.
If you make the cutout part smaller by one ring, you can always use 4-5 nylon tie-wraps to temporarily hold the cutout part back in place, so you can use it for drying a batch of jerky or whatever. The opening is still more than wide enough to fit any diameter of filament that I've ever seen.
Excellent tutorial! I had found the one for $33 while you were going through the process of cutting the grate out so I nabbed one. Thank you for what ya do!
Thanks for the tip! Got myself a 240W "Mliter" food dehydrator with digital timer and temperature control from eBay for $37.00 and it worked great!
HOLY CRAP!!! Just got my Dehydrator from the link below. Took about 10 minutes to cut the rings with a pair of wire cutters and just put my NylonX in to start drying. THANK YOU SO MUCH Joe!!!! I may build a custom box and mount the one or two of these cheap dehydrator bases to the bottom to keep everything nice and dry
FYI, the material they are using for the mesh doesn't seem to be acrylic. It seems much more pliable
I use an old Slow cooker (Crock pot).. Keep it on lowest setting (warm 120F).. It works great.. I get it to 15% humidity..
Very usefull idea! Many thanks for sharing. I surely will build my own soon!
Thank you for posting! Bought one and it works great! (Now around $48) But I can dry two spools at a time! Love it
Thanks for sharing - grabbed your temps and times. I just bought a dehydrator and not wanting to chop of the drying trays thought I would try a different approach. On my unit I can put one tray down. set a spool on it - then hope my 3D printed ring (in 4 pieces) will create a space, topped with another tray and then the top. Designed a ring in Tinkercad - cut into four 90↑ quarter circles, 35mm tall, 5mm wide. (takes about 6 hrs running slow on my Ender 3 S1) I've printed two so far - so far so good. I'm counting on PETG not getting too soft at 140° C. My problem filament is some old PLA and I want to use it to dry out Dessicant too. ... and maybe make some jerky - hence the need not to ruin the rings.
Heck yea! Thanks for the video, great idea!
Thanks, just ordered one!
Thanks! defentanly gonna give this a try!
Searched everywhere for some timing examples for NYLON! Thanks Man!!
I did that about 3 months ago, I bought mine used, at goodwill for $7.00, however it is on or off. I have an Arduino Nano with a DHT22 that turns on and off a relay to keep the heat at my set point. So far I have not used it for anything over 70 C. I did not add the bowden tube fittings yet. I have not made a filament spinner yet. I did however make it for 2 roles not one.
As the middle plate was a bit high I cut that tray in about 1/2 of an inch, then I hung one of the full cuts from that 1/2 lip lowering that enough to put 2 rolls in at once.
Great Cheap Alternative! Thank you
I feel like an inverted Home Depot bucket would be a lot easier. Maybe drill a couple of holes to let humid air vent
I did this with an old dehydrator we got for $10 at a garage sale. The only problem I ran across was that using the clippers on the old plastic caused the sides to break. I ended up using a dremel and a cutoff wheel. A little super glue fixed the broken section...
Just what I need. Thanks.
Lol this sounded like an infomercial towards the end... when you start rhyming. "Just set it and forget it!" haha, thanks though I loved it.
You can keep the trays for food! I do the same thing for a bowling ball: the first wall replacement was cardboard (make a cylinder 4" tall if needed or 9" for bowling balls), now I use a piece of sheetmetal with carboard to insulate (lay a towell over it to insulate more).
I’m sure someone could make a base plate out of PLA in 4 sections for smaller printers and then your cardboard idea is perfect.
hey.
I just bought one used off the internet. instead of ruining the trays, I used a sheet of thin acrylic, cut it to about 6 inches high by 1 meter long (I know, I'm canadian, I use whatever measure works best) and made a big loop with it (rivets to keep it closed). it creates a tube just he right size to fit in the base and top. Plus, with 6 inches high, I can fit two regular spools.
keep in mind I checked the temps, and the lowest, marked at 35 c, actually hovers around 42c. the top temp (70c) is right on, with everything in between proportionally high.
before I found the scrap transparent sheet, I was going to use cereal box cardboard, possyble stapled at the seam. paper doesn't burn until 400degrees F, so no worries.
this is what i'm also thinking and but i was only thinking of hard carton
@@erysonrodriguez8398 hey! that might turn out for the best.. the plastic/acrylic or whatever sheet I used ended up being brittle and cracked pretty quickly (it might have been really old). but carboard would do the trick no problem.
Thanks for the video. For all who interested, no this one will not fit large 2Kg spools (at least 300 mm diameter made by Ninjatek) out of the box. Cutting grids off is not enough to fit them and also not enough height. But with custom 3d printed enclosure I think it would work... I will try...
mine just arrived today, drying to filaments the make the test
This trick saved a roll of PVA for less than the cost of replacing the roll itself. Definitely a useful thing to have, especially if you're using filaments that don't like moisture!
Thank you! I managed to find a dehydrator where the centers of the rings would twist and unlock.
which one?
I really enjoyed your video
Great!
Can't believe I *just* found this. We already have a dehydrator, but the trays are skinny and non-removable like these. I've discovered that you can get extra trays for it, didn't take much to convince my other half that we needed a couple pairs lol
I always use a soldering iron to modify plastic like this. Melts right through and you have smooth edges. And you don't risk cracking the project.
Or you could heat up a razor blade with a propane torch ( this will anneal it and make it less hard , thus it will go dull quicker on harder materials ) . Just be cafeful not to get burned duh
$31.95 on Amazon now... good price!!
Awesome tutorial! Has anyone found extra trays? Probably won't need to increase the capacity, but wouldn't mind also using it for its intended purposes.
Great tip Joe Mike. Got mine "lightly used" for $25 including shipping. Used a scroll saw to remove the grills and it worked great. Any thoughts about extending the height with a sheet metal tube so many rolls can be processed at one time?
Thanks for the feedback. Ok, I have some 1/16" sheet ABS that I can form into a tube also. I'll give that a try.
I used a section of 12" aluminum flashing, cut off a strip and taped the ends, is working perfectly. Even matches the aluminum/stainless? face on the dehydrator I got from Aldis. Didn't have to cut any of the sections out.
Have you had any issues with gluing the bits together coming apart under your heat?
Looks at 2kg spools from FilamentsCA...
Gonna need a few more rings!
Could always cut the spool in half.
The Flexzion, Westinghouse, Rosewill, and Matterhackers dryers look identical. The Matterhackers dryer comes with two deep trays already done, and the sorta vacuum tupperware. I'm not sure that is worth an extra $100 to me.
Have you thought of using a hot knife to cut the tray bottoms out?
Out of curiosity. Was cutting it necessary? You couldnt just leave out the other stacks and put the lid o?
How hot does it get and how long does it take to dehydrate nylon?
Thanks Buddy! Just nabbed a used like new for 34 after tax!
You can also store it in a vacuum jar :D
The humidity can exsist in a vacuum.
Why not print the container? That way you could keep the acrylic parts for safe food dehydration.
Hey Kansas City!! I'm from there.
I love that shirt. Good old Western Auto...
what temp and how long should you dry filament?
Go to a thrift store and look for extra rings to add more height so more spools can be put in at the same time and you could also find the whole dehydrator sometimes for under $10.00
Could you build one of these into a bigger box?
how long does it need to
dry ?
whats the max temperature? can i dry nylon in it?
can i use this to dry food in between or it will cause me health problems afterwards?
Great idea, but why didn't you just 3d print some side walls? Because of the size, you'll have to print them in segments. and either let them slot into oneanother or glue them together.
Are there openings in the clear plastic that air flows out of? Or is it entirely closed off so the air just circulates around inside?
I'm going to be using a 5 gallon bucket for the filament chamber, but I don't know if I need to cut holes in it or just leave it as-is.
Thanks.
Old post but what some people do is cut sections of the bucket lid so air can get into the bucket and use that as the base. Fill the bucket with filiment and you can add and remove it as needed and keep it all in the bucket. Also drill holes in the bottom of the lid, it still needs air to flow out to work.
how do you know when it is dry what percent
Any recommendations for Polycarbonate (PC)?
actually i was thinking of this since i saw people cutting the acrylic: why not just roll a strip of carton and put a rim on the lining and make it enough the spool fits- no need to cut?
How much energy does it use over 6 hours?
The "FilaDryer O Matic"?
Are you in Kansas City?
I am new to printing 3d do you have to dry any filament even pla?
What temp do you dry them at and for how long? I have Excalibur dehydrated I use for jerky that I think just found a second purpose in life.
Has anyone figured out yet how to print these walls? Then you can have a couple of the plates with raised printed walls in between and multiple rolls.
What level and for how long?
🤔 I wonder if you can use a food dehydrator as a Filament dryer, could you use a filament dryer as a food dehydrator?
"if it fits, anything will fit"
*looks at 25kg spools from push plastics
ok sure
now what about 2kg plus spools
Printdry (scam) is really not happy with this video GG man I did this and it is perfect (finally my prints are coming out beautifully again)
Yeahh...they are reselling the Rosewill (or basically unbranded chinese dehydrator) for like 3 times the price lol
Man, if you could get away with it, and people were paying you are saying you wouldn't?
Probably find one at a yardsale for even cheaper :) Most people who have them barely ever use them!
Im lazy so i ordered this and asked my buddy with a cnc router to cut out the center circles for me to skip the acrylic shard mess completely.
Square food dehydrator that heats to 168F. No cutting needed. Add lazy susan bearings.
Isn't 150F for PLA a little high? The glass transition temp is from 140-150F. I've seen elsewhere to do it from 113-122F.
It says 150 for PLA in your list.
Please update the details for this. Thanks a lot!
Why did you glue anything together? Was it just a convenience thing?
Thank you.
This video was sponsored by PrintDry Syst.... Oh wait... No I don't think so :-)
Great video Joe Mike... Going to order one. Thanks.
Now if I only had a tool that allowed me to create extra plastic rings, then I could dry 2 or even 4 spools at a time...
Oh, wait, I actually have one.
Now where did I leave the Colorfabb HT filament??
I've read where some use cake containers from Walmart or I guess found elsewhere as the custom wall. Seems a 5 gallon bucket might do as well.
desiccant isn't a permanent moisture absorber. it will get saturated and stop working.
the dehumidifier is a good idea though.
You can revitalize desiccant be removing the moisture from the silica via dehydration
Why not print a different container for it?
We made a video on that.
Joe Mike Terranella On our channel “How To Take Care Of Your 3D Printer Filament”
Great video, thanks. (No need to say “what’s up guys”)
Don't forget to hit-up consignment shops like Salvation Army in the States or yard sales. I bet if you were willing to look around you'd find someone selling a dehydrator for $5 :P
i just use a box with silica gel and a ptfe coupler to get the filament out basically free as a box doesnt cost much and i get silica gel from my filament rolls
my moto is to never get the filament wet but i get where u are coming from
That's my moto too, but Nylon just sucks the moisture out of the air better then Silica does, leaving you with dry silica and wet nylon :-)
$99? Printdry is now $124. I'll go for the dehydrator, thanks.
"nuts" demonontized lol
As a cosplayer, I can think of half a dozen uses for that mesh section Right Now. Reduce, reuse, recycle. ^_^
why not just print a ring to extend the height. you'll have more room for more filament.
If you only use standard 2KG and 1KG spools they also make a smaller 10 inch model
www.amazon.com/dp/B075ZB3V9S
One might be able to use a 9 or 10 inch cake pan as a cover :-)
Super glue heated to 150??! Is that even safe?
Why glue it. Just leave the trays stackable.
Joe Mike Terranella I’d go with gaffer tape, tbh, across the outside.
Dab the tab
Buy an phillips airftyer, wife happy, you're happy (finally good food) . filament happy
Already got good food, i'm the one cooking
Kinda funny to watch a guy expreted in 3D printing talking about "how to fit spool in the stock case".
Print your own design.
It is THAT simple.
Cheap industrial design + custom DIY case == best solution.
you should get pay from advertising the brand!
Why didn't you just print yourself a custom rim instead of destroying the stock rim's?
You could if you have a very large printer
Might be able to print half of each side and enter lock them or perhaps glue them so even if you don't have a large printer it should work.
This may not be the best solution. Just print a ring with your printer so that you'll be able to use the divice as a real dehydrator for your food
Ouchies
Looks like PrintDry sells just the chambers: www.printdry.com/product/top-chamber Wouldn't save you any money, but you could always upgrade later.
Damn...these prices did not hold up well. $45, $110, and $70
WARNING THERE ARE CHEAP DEHYDRATORS THAT DO NOT GET HOTTER THEN 30 C.
Be sure to test it before cutting it up
This is a great tutorial, thanks for putting it together. Here are two similar versions from thingiverse that have the rotating spool holder inside as well. Note that the second one is an identical dehydrator base to the printdry base and the one seen here. Too bad they all max out at 70 degrees Celsius though, a higher temperature option would be nice for Nylon.
www.thingiverse.com/thing:1618037/
www.thingiverse.com/thing:2669646
All the same, I think I will be going with the Printdry system for the sake of saving time and getting back to work. DIYing this is great for a hobby project but I can not justify spending several hours on modifications, redoing design, and making custom fittings to save less than 50 dollars after the cost of additional materials (glues, bearigns, etc). By the time I factor in labour costs to the project price, the equivalent value of a comparable Printdry unit would be about 200 CAD for something available OTS for 125.
(I may pick up one of those cheap dehydrators as well 'cause I certainly know I could use some healthy fruit snacks to bolster my diet.)
Why not just print your own rings... ; )
first why on earth destroy your trays, they are expensive to replace. and a food dehydrator is nice to have for food.
second you have a 3d printer, use it.
print some walls for it and be done with it
for medium sized printers like the prusa i3 and its clones use this www.thingiverse.com/thing:2669646
for large printers bed printers use this: www.thingiverse.com/thing:2669646
or go the cheapest route and fold up some cardboard and tape the walls and use that.
if you want to keep multiple trays to dry multiple rolls, this lets you do it. all you need is some kind of seal ring to go between each layer to make sure moisture can't come in through the layer boundaries. cmon, dude, think about the merits (unintended or not) of an idea before deciding to call someone an idiot.
mark trays as food specific, and others for filament use only, and just don't mix the two. though, contamination of the trays from emitted particles during drying only just registers for food. the heat is below the glass transition points of filaments when drying, so the filament cannot emit UFP's or VOC's
The 13 Inch diameter is going to require a large printer to properly print a tray. A CR10 could print a tray for the smaller model (9.9 inches).
I don't think the layers are sealed from each other that way but I could be wrong. I'd think the idea would be to avoid any large air leaks that would let air out before it has traveled to the top of the cylinder.
A cheap way to make all the trays you could want would be to use acrylic lighting diffusers like this: www.homedepot.com/p/Lithonia-Lighting-White-Eggcrate-T12-Troffer-Replacement-Diffuser-L2GT-PLTS-R5/100579509
Plenty of airflow. You'd probably just need to fabricate or improvise dividers to keep the grids from sitting right on the spool.
07:27 height =/= heigth