Long term review of the 2022 Pivot Firebird
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ส.ค. 2022
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How to jump found gaps: / 67255256
How to stoppie turn: / 65842496
How to drop: / 64552391
How to LEAN in corners: / how-to-lean-in-63176556
How to Ride Light on the Bike: / how-to-ride-on-61941975
Riding technique differences between hardtails and full suspension: / 60435182
How to rut track: / 59366938
5 tips to make flat trails more fun: / 58058983
5 tips to improve bike control and balance: / 56839920
How to levitate out of corners: / 55607066
Three simple cornering tips: / 54371316
How (and when) to rock roll or drop: / 53126562
How to jump with fluidity- and not DEAD SAILER! / 51914476
How to Lanual: / 50695443
How to climb ledges without a bunny hop: / 49476021
Which brake to use when: / which-brake-to-48108425
Different bikes, different riding techniques: / 46925782
How to ride FLAT PEDALS through the ROCKS: / how-to-ride-flat-45662347
How to ride wet roots and steep chutes: / 44507851
How to ride with style: / how-to-ride-with-43349450
How to jump for height vs distance: / 42202183
Common manual questions answered: / 41006264
How to land jumps: / 39928153
My 3 favorite skills drills: / if-i-could-only-38809964
How to manual: / how-to-manual-37684861
Cutty: / 36579859
Manual a berm: / 35496772
How to ride in Sedona: / 34436065
Switchbacks: / 3-ways-to-33345804
Nosewheelie: / 32742504
Bump jump: / 31881231
Trials basics for trail riders: / 31145344
Tight berms: / 30389457
Aggressive braking: / 29579507
Confidence for mountain biking: / 28817411
Cornering: / 27981205
Flowing/pumping down the trail: / 27288868
Stoppie through turns: / 26296762
Technical climbing: / 25234847
Boost jumps: / 24161821
Bunnyhop: / 23396959
Utilizing the wheelie on the trail: / 23017910
How to wheelie: / 21879606 - ภาพยนตร์และแอนิเมชัน
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If i could ride like one person it would be Jeff
If I could ride one person it would be Jeff as well
If I could ride like one person, it would be myself. If I could ride with one person, it would Jeff.
Phil atwil and mr penton
Guess you just gotta practice and work hard. Jeff has definitely earnt his skills with scars and injuries
I really appreciate how much time you spend running these bikes on a variety of trails and running them with both coil and air. Keep it up👍
Happy Hour & Spirit Bear...love that trail! Thanks Jeff, Bobby, Stan & crew!
Great review. Cool watching you rip. Love my Firebird and stoked to get this 2nd summer riding it. Best bike yet.
I'm really digging the video style of riding and story telling.
Just bought a firebird and I am in love
I love that "long term" in the bike world is basically one year.
Talk about churn for new bikes
I ride a trail 429 and really like it great all around bike. best handling 29er I have ridden. Just feels right.
I really like Pivot's current lineup. It's got something for everyone, and hasn't given up on 27.5" ... I think the majority of riders, who don't race and are just looking for a trail bike they can take to a bike park, both the Switchblade and Mach 6 are the best options. I'm 5' 7 and have shorter legs, so I went with the small Mach 6.
If you're not looking to break any speed records, and just want a bike you can have fun with at the bike park, but still be good on your local trails, this is a great option.
Two slight critiques are pressfit bottom bracket and 157mm rear spacing. Pressfit is different on a higher end bike cause they have stricter tolerances during manufacturing, so I haven't heard any creaking, but I'd prefer threaded cause there's more after-market options.
Late comment incoming! I’ve been watching your videos of you riding the Firebird without realizing that the Firebird was winning me over. I’m tall and heavy (260lbs) and I’ve been riding the Specialized Enduro. In truth, the enduro is simply too leveraged for a heavy rider like me to set the rear shock up properly. Ive been running the EXT E-STORIA, because it’s literally the only shock that fully supports my weight on the highly leveraged Enduro. I just sold my Enduro and ordered the Firebird because of the DW link! I can finally run an air shock! Hooray! I can’t wait to ride that dude! Thank you for excellent content!
That was a solid review!🔥 subscribed!🤙🏻
Nice, very informative video Jeff! Thank you
Great review, very well thought out.
Great review, I have a Switchblade currently but interested in the Firebird! Would be cool to see you ride the new SC megatower or a Transition!
Thanks pivot for building such an awesome bike.
It's a good one!
Just sold mine for the Shuttle LT!
Would love to see you get on a Revel rail 29 as it falls into “conservative” geo category similar to the Rm altitude with a different touch on suspension design
Great video as always!
Thank you Travis!
I’m picking up my Firebird in Durango this week. Looking forward to exploring the capabilities this summer and how it compares to my Mach 5.5.
Pivot advertised the small for those upto 5'8" It was the first time they had adjusted the sizing due to the new updated geo. I wouldn't necessarily go with the blanket statement of if you're a medium get a medium. Everyones bike sizing preference is different and if you're on the cusp of sizing you should really lean towards the size that is more inline with your usual reach preferences. Some people prefer longer bikes and some prefer snappier easy to throw around bikes. I for instance LOVE the smaller frames and at 5'8" have an awesome time on smalls - although it all depends on the kind of riding you're into.
Thanks Pivot!
Daaaang the hop into Spirit Bear was spicy 🔥
Would absolutely love to see a review/hear your thoughts on the Scor 4060 [either travel set]. Thanks for the killer content!
Appreciate the "fake news" callout on sizing down. So much hype for that floating around "tha innanet" right now. Anytime I've sized down I feel like I'm riding a BMX about to go OTB when things get remotely fast and/or steep.
Absolutely! I rode a L Hightower a few years ago. L Firebird fits perfectly!
Great riding and review! If I can ride half as good as you someday I'll be happy.
I'd love to see how you like and ride the Growler. I just got back into MTB after being away from it for about 6 years, my last bike being a 2012 Mojo HD 160. I recently got a leftover 21 Growler 20 and put a used Z1 140mm fork on it, PNW XL grips, Rainier 3 dropper, Loam Lever, my old Formula One brakes, Deity Black Label bars, and Specialized Butcher/Eliminator tires. I'm riding better than I ever have and I'm not missing rear suspension at this point. It's a fun ride and I love my budget build entry back into mtb!
i just got myself a pivot shadowcat and absolutely love the bike, quality and finish seems better than anything i ve seen so far
What's a Shadowcat???
@@JeffKendallWeed the 27.5 trailbike from pivot 😁
@@JeffKendallWeed replacement for the Mach 5.5
@@JeffKendallWeed Just got myself a Shadowcat as well and it is one fun yet composed bike. Smiling all the way down the trail !
Interesting that you find a Horst-link to easier to pop and jump. I just went to a Ripmo from my old-faithful 2013 Spesh Enduro 26er and the find the dw-link way more supportive. When I push down it pushed me back up. On my enduro, it wasn’t the case. It was really active and had tons of traction everywhere but I’m looking forward to boosting off of things with this new bike.
Always enjoy watching your honest reviews. Next time you're in the Phoenix area, give us a shout, would love to ride SoMo or Hawes with ya.
Thanks Chris! th-cam.com/video/K_pLj_5GIHk/w-d-xo.html
I now need a DW sticker for my DW-link bike, thanks Jeff.
Thanks Pivot
I'm narrowing down my choice of MTB. The Firebird seems like it checks every box, although so far, every review has talked not so positive about the rear suspension. I do a demo day for 6 hours next month, so I'll know for sure.
In depth breakdown. Appreciate the content you create.
If you could get your hands on a Pole Evo link or GG SMASH for review would be great.
Another topic Best lifetime warranty carbon wheel companies. Ex. NOX ..etc
I would love to see you riding something like the new Santa Cruz Hightower 3 or Bronson MX!
I'd reeeeally love to see you review pivots shadowcat. I think given your riding style it would be an awesome match and would be interested to see your perspective on it
I’d love to see you review a magic Mary big Betty combo. Just put on my bike and absolutely love them.
Great video! Would love to see a comparison to the SB150 :)
I ride a M Bird but am 5'10". definitely a flavor preference, but am happy to keep the quick playfulness of a smaller bike but with the longer reach over other mediums I don't have to use a longer stem like I have had in the past.
Been waiting for this video. Hoping the Firebird with the new Zeb and X2 is my next bike. Currently on a Switchblade with an X2. I would love to hear more of your thoughts on the Fox 38 vs the new Rockshox Zeb. Sill love LMNT on my ride. Bummed that grapefruit is seasonal as I feel it's one of their best flavors.
Hi Jeff. wondering if you can feel any difference between dw-link with horizontal shock orientation like the ripmo and dw-link with the rocker link and vertical shock orientation?
Would love to see you on the Canyon Strive! You make the best review videos!
I love your video's you do an excellent job with them. I also really enjoy your riding style and skill. Nice work!
It would be cool if you could get a bike from Guerilla Gravity like the Shred Dogg and try it out.
Awesome bike! I’d like to see a review of the Specialized Status. I’ve been riding a Status 140 and really liking it as my first full suspension bike.
That was my first full sus bike too but upgraded to a Marin alpine trail 8
Just wanted to add my two cents worth on this topic. I own both of the most recently updated Trail 429 and Firebird. For the average trail rider who wants an everyday trail bike to go out and have a great time I would recommend the Firebird over the Trail 429 without hesitation. The Firebird is an outstanding everyday trail bike. Does the Trail 429 climb more efficiently? Maybe, but I really can't tell the difference. The Firebird climbs great. Does the Trail 429 descend better than the Firebird? Absolutely not. The Firebird is significantly better than the Trail 429 on descents. The Firebird feels more stable and controllable. That extra travel just soaks it up which leads to the next question. Does the Trail 429 handle slow technical terrain better than the Firebird? Absolutely not. All that extra travel in the suspension makes all those big rocks in your way just shrink up. The Firebird just crushes technical terrain. Does that extra travel inhibit the Firebird in terms of pedal bob? Nope. At least not to me. Just riding around trails normally or climbing the Firebird and the Trail 429 feel exactly the same to me so why wouldn't I want to have that extra travel just in case I might need it? Answer, I do want it. What about turning? Does the Trail 429 turn better than the Firebird on tight trails? I don't think so. If anything, I like the way the Firebird handles tight trails because I like the slacker head tube angle and the shorter back end. The Trail 429 makes me feel like it's going to yeet me over the handlebars if I mess up. The Firebird is more forgiving. Again, I'm just your average everyday trail rider and to me the Firebird is a better every day trail bike than the Trail 429. I own both of them and if you were to tell me I could only keep one the Trail 429 would go bye bye. I would also pick the Firebird over the Switchblade without hesitation. Anyway, I hope this helps my fellow average every day riders who might be on the fence about the Firebird. Cheers. One more thing. Jeff is spot on. Don't get wrapped up about the size/reach of the Firebird. If you normally ride mediums then get the medium Firebird.
This is a helpful comment. Where do you ride? I am on a 2016 Trek Fuel EX 9.8 and it feels under gunned for most of my riding in the Colorado Rockies. Lots of high altitude big days and occasional bikepacking but wanting something slacker. Kinda between Switchblade and Firebird. Just not sure about a Firebird as a one and only bike and especially for bikepacking though I’m sure it could pull it all off but not totally convinced it’s the best one bike tool. Thanks.
@@aaront879
I live in Central Texas and we have a lot of really chunky single-track trails with the occasional double track. It's hill country so not really super steep descents or climbs but good enough to test your mettle. I have both the Switchblade and the Firebird and picking between the two is a tough choice. When I first got the Firebird, I had bike lust and would have picked it over the Switchblade for everyday trail riding but now I'm not so sure about that. I really like the Switchblade. I guess it boils down to what you're going to do the most of. If you are going to do more bombing downhill, I would take the Firebird. Its got a slacker head tube angle and a wheelbase about two inches longer than the Switchblade. If you are going to do more everyday trail riding including downhill but maybe not as much then I'd probably recommend the Switchblade. The Switchblade will be a bit more of a Swiss Army knife. I don't know anything about bikepacking so I can't recommend anything for that. If you can, get on one of each and test them out. They are both great bikes. I would pick both the Switchblade and the Firebird over the 429.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the Orbea Rallon.
Would love to see you test the pivot 429 enduro and hear your comments as a one quiver bike
Awesome video again Jeff. How’d you find the sizing, did you down size for the firebird?
For that last shot, I was thinking “where is the landing????” and then you splashed into the water.
I was really interested in this bike but it wasn't in stock when I was ready to buy, so I chose a Hightower thinking my regular trails are pretty flat, I don't need all that travel. In reality I find ways to want more travel, and the hightower seems to either be too harsh or blow right through it's travel. My experience and your video makes me wish I had waited a little longer. At least I still have something to ride.
Hey Charles, Hightower sounds like a great bike, and a bit closer to my Ripmos. I haven't spent a ton of time on the Hightower, wish I had suggestions to pass along! You may be able to throw an angleset in it, and add some volume reducers to the rear shock, or perhaps a Cascade link to make it feel more supple up top yet more supportive near bottom out. Tuning is underrated in the bike world!
I know you said a medium is a great size, but I’d be curious to see you compare a medium firebird to a small firebird
I would love to see the new Nomad v6 with mixed-wheels!
great stuff Jeff 😜👌🚴👌🏴🏴
Lol, the very end is the best part😂 I would’ve belly flopped that part
Great review Jeff! What about lengthening that 38 to 180? I have the same bike and feel that I could use a little more stack height. Being that this is such a playful bike, totally agree on that, the extra 10mm of fork probably work well? .
I like your reviews. Im in the market for a new bike. Trying not to spend a fortune Looking at the ripmo the offering and hightower.
I would really appreciate it if you can do a review on a propain spindrift or a tyee
Had a Mach 6 for a couple years now and it feels like riding a 160 travel bmx bike, which it seems like pivot has a particular knack for designing bikes to feel like that. Not necessarily the fastest but definitely the most fun
Mach 6v3? Has a cult following, I hear. Will never give up mine.
@@trentvlak yeah it'll beat me up a little in the crazy chunk but when the trail is flowy with lots of stuff to pop off, it's completely alive
I'm considering a burlier bike to pair with my V1 Ripmo. Considering either an enduro or a full on DH, but living in WI the DH might not be too wise. The Firebird is high in the running. Saw one in that gray greenish finish at the bike park recently and it was really nice looking.
Try a Mini-DH like a Meta or a Madonna
Hi Jeff! Did you ever ride the SB150? How does it compare against the Firebird? Thx !!
I just got a canyon torque cf8 mullet and it sounded like you were describing it when you were talking about this bike
Hahaha really? I've still never ridden a Canyon!
@@JeffKendallWeed check it out 👍🏻
I'm fairly new to MTB. Currently have an entry hardtail and looking to get something good that I won't regret and won't need to upgrade in the future. The Pivot Firebird seems to be the one in interested in the most... I love going downhill, so I'm looking for something more planted than 'playful'. I want to get into downhill biking, but instead of a DH Bike, I want an Enduro so I can use it anywhere and not rely on needing a lift. Think this would be the one compared to the others?
Do you use a faster suspension set up or that is all muscle? I can't pick up and manual my bike as easly as you do with slower rebound.
Sweet Bike!🤤🤟
I’ve watched this video and the one on the Niner wfo like a dozen times, I would forever be in your debt if you gave me your quick opinion on witch one you think would be more versatile. Thanks for all the great content!
Thanks for the note Jeremy! Firebird gets my nod for more versatile. The Niner is really good. But it’s a tad low for the rough trails that require some pedaling. Firebird isn’t quite as balanced as the Niner, but the short backend and slightly higher feel keep it pretty easy to ride in the awkward jank that so many regular ‘ol tech trails have.
@@JeffKendallWeed Thank you very much, I really appreciate your time and experience!
I've been seeing hype around high pivot bikes like the Forbidden Dreadnought and Deviate Claymore, I'd love to see you shred a high pivot like the Forbidden and hear what you think about them!
I think he needs to ride the contra mc
@@ousqa I just watched the Pinkbike review of the Contra, wow what a bike
@@LastAphelion yeah seems like a superb bike except for the price tag lol, though if I had the cash I'd definitely be riding that.
Please review the Orbea Rallon
Big Reach & Big Rich
Test out the Guerilla Gravity bikes!
I'm actually in between 2 choices. The Firebird or the Megatower V2. Any thoughts?
I’d like to see u review a specialized status
How did you like the new zeb ?
How was the zeb fork in comparison?
8:27 that's so me, I'm always riding too fast
Great review Jeff! Comparing the firebird and altitude which bike do you feel is more versatile? Which bike would you rather ride on trails that aren’t super gnarly? Would you rather own the firebird or altitude as your personal bike?
He answers this around 14:00
That altitude is better
Nuckproof mega review
Would like to see Orbea Rallon vid!!
Me too!
i would love to see a lengthy test of an orbea rallon???
I'd like to see you ride the new Canyon Spectral 125 and 29 - specifically the aluminium versions!
Have yet to ride a Canyon! I've heard they are now avail in the USA.
great review Jeff, can you help me choose the size of the frame, I'm 181 cm tall and I don't know whether to choose size M or L, my current bike is ibis ripmo size L
Could you do a review of the Guerilla Gravity bikes?
Jeff how did you review a fork when you never put the front wheel down?
Is it advisable to run it as mullet
Im looking at a merida 160 which has almost identical geometry with the firebird. I was just wondering if the firebird was still nice to ride on less steep trails and was still manouverable at slower speeds and in tighter more technical trails?
Torn between this and the knolly. Knolly comes at a lot better price, but is the playfulness of the firebird worth the extra cost
I am on month 4 on my Switchblade. Love love it. The real question is do u like the Firebird more than the Altitude???
Right on Nick! It's been 18 months since I last rode the Altitude, but from what I remember, that was still my fave bike of all time. Notice that Jesse Melemed is winning all the EWS stuff on it? It's a legit bike. It was a little easier for me to get off the ground, and a little easier to man-handle with the shorter reach and wheelbase. Firebird is a great ride, but def different.
please try an ORANGE Bikes Stage6/evo with the mahooosive 469 chainstays! that'd be an interesting comparison with the rest of the bikes
Oooof 469 stays?! That sounds miserable! Hahaha but you're right, it'd be fun to see what that feels like.
Pivot Shuttle LT next?
Sooo, now that you've had the Spire, Altitude and Firebird (all in my top few for next bigger / enduro bike), how would you rate them on a day to day riding scale to race day only. I'm located in the "places I generally avoid" portion of the US (Minnesota) and have been riding a Yeti SB 5.5 for the last 5 years and have since got more into enduro racing. I ride it just about everywhere and like the idea of the Firebird and your associated word to the pedal capability (I have a hardtail for my more XC days) and ability to get it off the ground to be creative with it.
Hey Alex, I spent a year on the Spire and have since sold it and been on the firebird since early august. I bought the firebird because I realized the spire is most definitely not a race bike. I heard people describing the spire as fast, but that was not in the context of modern enduro style racing. Seems like you may be happier with an altitude or Firebird. You can’t go wrong with either one. Since you live in Minnesota, I’d lean Firebird with the dw link and shorter chain stay than the altitude. With the more firm platform, might give it the upper hand than the horst link altitude when pedaling. My advice would be demo both the altitude and Firebird. My vote is Firebird for you
@Hugh Glass thanks Hugh! I did infant snag a large X01 firebird in silver sunrise. Working through sus tuning (went X2) . Hopeful to finally demo a spire later this year, but so fat extremely happy with the fit and feel of the firebird🤘🍻
I am wondering what you think about the Evil Insurgent
hhhmm I am 5'7" and been riding a 2017 Trek Slash size Medium. When comparing geo numbers the Small FB is slightly longer but close to current bike. The FB Medium seems way out there, I guess your suggestion would be to ride each? Did you ever sit on a Small? Thanks for the great review!!
He’s comparing Geo numbers to modern day bikes….a lot has changed since 2017
review Guerrilla Gravity Gnarvana!! :)
i have new bird its so good!!
anyone know what hub is on that bike cause it sound sooo good.
It's an industry nine Hydra. Thanks Rory! bit.ly/IndustryNine2022JKW
Test out banshee please
JKW!! Please review the new Megatower - would love to hear your feedback. Pinkbike wasn't too favorable in their recent review, said the bike didn't have great traction which seems suspect..fake news
I've heard the new Nomad is incredible... If I can get a chance to try a modern SC bike, I will, but it'll take some doing to get one lined up! Was gonna try to get a Transition in first.
Revel Rail 29
Please Review the yt Capra al :D
I wonder if he misses the 29" wheels?
Isn't that thing fully 29"?
Logan rips yo
Would you rather ride a firebird or the new smuggler?
Completely different bikes!!! Smuggler is much more of an all arounder. Lighter, more efficient, easier on most average terrain. But once things get steep and gnarly, and you’re primarily focused on the descents, then the Firebird takes the cake! 🎂
Do want