Great video. Your take on super steel sharpening is right on. I think some people still only use the same type of stones that grandpa used to use, and only getting marginal results. Even a novice sharpener like me has learned you can get great results using the right tools.
Thanks for this very informative and educational video, I really appreciate all the work your doing busting some of the silliest knife myths out there. You rock, keep up the great work! 😊👍 Take care and Cheers!
Thank u for your channel. I would love to see u do this sharpening with a Maxamet blade. I have used your exact method on my Spyderco Native in Maxamet steel. Removing the burr wasn’t as easy is you did with your knife. I have been sharpening for 65 years and this is one of the hardest burr removals I have experienced. Keep up the great work.
I have some Venev stones I use just for refining and polishing my edges. That saved me the price of buying a whole set of them. I use my DMT stones to set the apex, and the Venev to refine and polish.
I agree. People are so quick to jump on the train of $hitting on super steels when in reality, they will blow simple steels out of the water with every aspect.
Great video. Don't let people discourage you, I have to admit I am slow to change. I have really enjoyed watching your videos and learning more about super steels. I have even picked a few new knives up with better steels. Thanks for sharing and God bless.
Can we all take a moment to give @thescrawnylumberjack and @ericasedc a round of applause for quality knives and quality reviews, With real information and knowledgeable input. I’m pretty tired of the “carbon steel brothers”. Super steels done right are better plain and simple. Thanks for the great video!
Ok this made me smile. Thank you for recognizing the amount of time and effort we put into this to give you guys the truth. To provide you with a TRUTHFUL resource of information and education. This is why we do it. Super steel is simply superior! 😊❤🎉
This really shows how much you like to sharpen properly heat treated super steel. Flipping soft steel burs in a royal pain in the A$$. Glad you enjoyed making your point Erica!
Excellent video! Super steels done right are incredible tools. To me what makes a knife a pain to sharpen is when it is too thick behind the edge. The bevel is about a mile wide and too much steel has to be removed. Guess what knives are most likely to be like that? It's those older steels run soft and they need the thickness for edge stability. You can have a knife that is very tough because it is run soft but has poor edge stability. The two don't always go together. Thin and hard edges are a pleasure to use and sharpen.
I have always struggled to find out, after flipping to sharpen the second side, whether I had already apexed or it was the burr from the previous side. Deburring before flipping seems the solution to all my problems! Thanks very much for the lovely vid
It way a joy to watch you work. Are you self taught or did your dad or someone else mentor you when you were younger on knife sharpening? Always good videos Ms E. Take care girl.🇺🇲🔪🌲🔥
@@ericasedc but also you’re right about the other stuff too. Like no one talks about it and I wouldn’t really thought about it but when you say it it’s like oh yeah! That’s my experience too! For example have you taken the Pepsi challenge with something like a mora garberg in Sandvik and one that says “carbon” on it? The difference is night and day.
Very satisfying watching you sharpen free hand!! Is rubbing alcohol ok to clean off blades or is that a no no? Is it ok to just gently knock the burr of with your finger if u dont have a ceramic rod?
i dont know about 01 as I havent really used it, but I do work in 1095, 5160 and 52100, and if you give them what they want, they are not gummy or hard to sharpen at all. I would like to see you sharpen some of these super steels on stones other than diamonds to see how the other classes of stones work with them. like norton crystolons, indias, arks, man made waterstones like the king or suehiro or naniwas
They tend to be coming from production settings, because the HT is faulty, they are not processed to obtain full potential, and run way too soft. Therefore, the knives in simple steels thick, soft, and coming from production companies OR makers who don’t actually test their knives- tend to be pretty bad to sharpen because they are faulty. You have to use diamonds with a lot of the super steels. Conventional abrasives won’t touch them. I have been able to use Naniwa water stones, Shapton Glass ceramic etc on Magnacut and Cruwear but as you move into K390 or like S125V you must use diamonds.
Erica is one of the only real ones in this community. Although I’m starting to see that the “edc” community is separating into two groups. Knife and steel enthusiasts vs fan boys of lackluster shiny new toys.
I sharpen Magnacut on my Worksharp field sharpener. I still hold that a well done carbon steel like Allen's has a place in the wilderness because of certain things they can do like being able to strike quarts on the spine to throw a spark into charred material or sharpening on a smooth rock if needed. I know some people claim that nobody will ever do those things but I have been in that survival situation where I had to do those things. That's why I carry a variety of steels on me every day. They each serve a purpose. That being said, I would love to see more people do those carbon steels the way Allen does where they're at a high HRC. My 1st Diablo prototype is 1095 at 62 HRC. Thing's worlds apart from what KA-BAR or Esee make
But you can do the same thing with 4V and it will outperform/last longer. I could sharpen 4V on a river rock it’s that easy. Like, I see what you’re saying 100% Z- but the super steels outperform these old ones and you can still maintain certain ones out in the woods with a rock if need be. Allen does great work I will give him that! But I do not see where 1095 etc fit in logically anymore. For cheap fun? Sure! But not for anything… realistic. Like it will never supersede any super steel in any aspect.
@@ericasedc can 4V do the quartz spark trick? I know no 3V knife I ever had could. The only 3 steels I've had that could do that are 1075, 1095, and O1
@@ericasedc eating tri-tip and chocolate pie and then gonna take my wife upstairs and...anyway, the spark trick probably is a rare thing for people to know but it is something I want to pass down to all who I teach to bushcraft/survive. I think Allen may be having a 4V drop. Maybe I'll grab a piece and give it a shot
You are totally right that high end steels with good ht are easier to sharpen (given you dont use a 5$ shit stone from temu & co). Also i can fully recommend stroppy stuff emulsions. They are the best i have ever tried. Also Roman Kasé that swore by ken schwartz (rip) emulsions has found stroppy stuff to be even better then the ken schwartz ones.
@@lostshoe85 you make no sense haha no one said anything about that🤣 Magnacut is the easiest to sharpen. All the steels are easy if you have the correct stones- diamonds.
@@lostshoe85 i do full diamond sharpenings on all carbide (especially vanadium carbide) rich steels. That said magnacut is one of the easier steels to sharpen.
Russian speaker here, the venev stones are pronounced “va-nyov” (since they come from the city of Венёв) but most English speakers in the knife world seem to have settled on pronouncing it so that it rhymes with weave. It’s not technically correct but everyone will know what you’re referring to so 🤷
Erica, I love your videos but do you have to stop sharpening after each stroke to talk and touch the blade edge..??? We can’t feel or see what you’re talking about. Get on with it already..!!
It's the vanadium content that requires the diamond stoned. So spyderco zdp189 hrc 65-67 will sharpen fine on almost all stones. No vanadium. Great steel esp from mbk. Anyway have fun.
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Best 27 min and 25 seconds on the internet
I am waiting for the comments to roll in about the end… but I just can’t listen to it anymore it’s so ridiculous haha
That laugh when Erica found out that the edge was good! 😂
I was really stoked🤣
Man I wish I could sharpen my knives like you do!!!!! You’re killing it Erica!!! 🔥
Hey thanks best!!!!!!
Great video. Your take on super steel sharpening is right on. I think some people still only use the same type of stones that grandpa used to use, and only getting marginal results. Even a novice sharpener like me has learned you can get great results using the right tools.
You know it man. Thanks so much for tuning in!
Thanks for this very informative and educational video, I really appreciate all the work your doing busting some of the silliest knife myths out there. You rock, keep up the great work! 😊👍 Take care and Cheers!
It’s fun! Thanks so much dude!
Thank u for your channel. I would love to see u do this sharpening with a Maxamet blade. I have used your exact method on my Spyderco Native in Maxamet steel. Removing the burr wasn’t as easy is you did with your knife. I have been sharpening for 65 years and this is one of the hardest burr removals I have experienced. Keep up the great work.
I will record that for you! Thanks so much for watching!
Nice fix on that one! Cheers, E!
Thanks for watching D!🎉
I have some Venev stones I use just for refining and polishing my edges. That saved me the price of buying a whole set of them. I use my DMT stones to set the apex, and the Venev to refine and polish.
Awesome! Thanks for sharing!
Great video. People (myself included) need to spend more time sharpening and learning how these super steels actually perform.
I agree. People are so quick to jump on the train of $hitting on super steels when in reality, they will blow simple steels out of the water with every aspect.
Great video. Don't let people discourage you, I have to admit I am slow to change. I have really enjoyed watching your videos and learning more about super steels. I have even picked a few new knives up with better steels. Thanks for sharing and God bless.
That makes me so happy to hear!!!! I love sharing the passion. Thanks for always watching! God bless🥰
Great video really enjoyed & learning a lot Thank you!
Thanks for the kind words!!! Cheers!
OMG, you have the same chuckle I have when I get a sharp edge. An absolutely great video.
Thanks my friend!
Can we all take a moment to give @thescrawnylumberjack and @ericasedc a round of applause for quality knives and quality reviews, With real information and knowledgeable input. I’m pretty tired of the “carbon steel brothers”. Super steels done right are better plain and simple. Thanks for the great video!
Ok this made me smile. Thank you for recognizing the amount of time and effort we put into this to give you guys the truth. To provide you with a TRUTHFUL resource of information and education. This is why we do it. Super steel is simply superior! 😊❤🎉
This really shows how much you like to sharpen properly heat treated super steel. Flipping soft steel burs in a royal pain in the A$$. Glad you enjoyed making your point Erica!
Thanks so much for watching Mike!!!!
Cool! And nice sized knife!
Why thank you!
Excellent video! Super steels done right are incredible tools. To me what makes a knife a pain to sharpen is when it is too thick behind the edge. The bevel is about a mile wide and too much steel has to be removed. Guess what knives are most likely to be like that? It's those older steels run soft and they need the thickness for edge stability. You can have a knife that is very tough because it is run soft but has poor edge stability. The two don't always go together. Thin and hard edges are a pleasure to use and sharpen.
I absolutely agree with you Ken! Also- I think your knife will be here tomorrow!!!!🥰🥰🥰
Wonderfully enlightening video... !!!!
Thanks so much for the kind words!
@ericasedc thanks for a concise and clear video, it makes so much sense ...
@@Cj12sings 🥰🥰🥰
Great sharpening video. I'm on vacation in northern California. TH-cam videos have been kinda sporadic. Thanks for the content.
Thanks so much for making time during your vacation to check this video out- I really appreciate it! Means the world to me. 🥰
Love this. Dispel the myths my myth busting friend! That’s a beast of a knife ya got there
Hey thanks Richter!!! I appreciate it! Just trying to help educate my friends on here🥰and support these awesome makers!
That thing is a beauty!
It performs extremely well too!
Nice job Erica!
Thank you!!!
Good video
Thank you- I appreciate that!
I love that you TORE up a piece of paper to do a CUT test with :)
Haha thanks for watching and commenting!
Seems like a great knife steel
Thank you- it truly is!!!
I have always struggled to find out, after flipping to sharpen the second side, whether I had already apexed or it was the burr from the previous side. Deburring before flipping seems the solution to all my problems! Thanks very much for the lovely vid
Glad you enjoyed!
It way a joy to watch you work. Are you self taught or did your dad or someone else mentor you when you were younger on knife sharpening? Always good videos Ms E. Take care girl.🇺🇲🔪🌲🔥
My father made knives and taught me how to sharpen. Self taught the modern tactics though! He was very… old school.
That is crazy sharp wish you coUld teach me i mesh up mY edge still sometimes
Keep practicing, you’ve got this!
Great end to your video. I thought the same of maxamet til I bought one last week. 10 mins with a DMT 600/1200 and it was crazy sharp.
Maxamet is so under rated and misunderstood!
You’re right. I hate it when it just flips back and forth
It’s definitely annoying!
@@ericasedc but also you’re right about the other stuff too. Like no one talks about it and I wouldn’t really thought about it but when you say it it’s like oh yeah! That’s my experience too! For example have you taken the Pepsi challenge with something like a mora garberg in Sandvik and one that says “carbon” on it? The difference is night and day.
Very satisfying watching you sharpen free hand!! Is rubbing alcohol ok to clean off blades or is that a no no? Is it ok to just gently knock the burr of with your finger if u dont have a ceramic rod?
Yes that works as long as it’s not coated! That could damage a coated blade. Your finger generally won’t work. It only has once for me!!!!
@@ericasedc ok thank you!!!! 😊 I’ll have to pick up a ceramic rod.
i dont know about 01 as I havent really used it, but I do work in 1095, 5160 and 52100, and if you give them what they want, they are not gummy or hard to sharpen at all. I would like to see you sharpen some of these super steels on stones other than diamonds to see how the other classes of stones work with them. like norton crystolons, indias, arks, man made waterstones like the king or suehiro or naniwas
They tend to be coming from production settings, because the HT is faulty, they are not processed to obtain full potential, and run way too soft. Therefore, the knives in simple steels thick, soft, and coming from production companies OR makers who don’t actually test their knives- tend to be pretty bad to sharpen because they are faulty. You have to use diamonds with a lot of the super steels. Conventional abrasives won’t touch them. I have been able to use Naniwa water stones, Shapton Glass ceramic etc on Magnacut and Cruwear but as you move into K390 or like S125V you must use diamonds.
Erica is one of the only real ones in this community. Although I’m starting to see that the “edc” community is separating into two groups. Knife and steel enthusiasts vs fan boys of lackluster shiny new toys.
Thank you so much. I really appreciate the kind words. It does divide for sure. In the end- we all love knives at least. 🥰
I sharpen Magnacut on my Worksharp field sharpener. I still hold that a well done carbon steel like Allen's has a place in the wilderness because of certain things they can do like being able to strike quarts on the spine to throw a spark into charred material or sharpening on a smooth rock if needed. I know some people claim that nobody will ever do those things but I have been in that survival situation where I had to do those things. That's why I carry a variety of steels on me every day. They each serve a purpose. That being said, I would love to see more people do those carbon steels the way Allen does where they're at a high HRC. My 1st Diablo prototype is 1095 at 62 HRC. Thing's worlds apart from what KA-BAR or Esee make
But you can do the same thing with 4V and it will outperform/last longer. I could sharpen 4V on a river rock it’s that easy. Like, I see what you’re saying 100% Z- but the super steels outperform these old ones and you can still maintain certain ones out in the woods with a rock if need be. Allen does great work I will give him that! But I do not see where 1095 etc fit in logically anymore. For cheap fun? Sure! But not for anything… realistic. Like it will never supersede any super steel in any aspect.
@@ericasedc can 4V do the quartz spark trick? I know no 3V knife I ever had could. The only 3 steels I've had that could do that are 1075, 1095, and O1
@@dualsportedc not sure. Never tried! I’m sure that practice is a rarity for the most part..:🤣 I hope you’re having a great night brother!🥰
@@ericasedc eating tri-tip and chocolate pie and then gonna take my wife upstairs and...anyway, the spark trick probably is a rare thing for people to know but it is something I want to pass down to all who I teach to bushcraft/survive. I think Allen may be having a 4V drop. Maybe I'll grab a piece and give it a shot
@@dualsportedc sounds like a plan!
Since that is a scandi grind, curious why you didn’t lay knife flat and sharpen the scandi grind vs. how you created a secondary edge.
It’s not a scandi. I followed the edge bevel. Thanks for watching!
@@ericasedc my bad. looked like a scandi primary with a thin microbevel edge.
@@MrEric0822 Nope! Not at all. Maybe the poor camera quality made it look that way. Sorry for the confusion!
It looks more like a Fallkni en style sabervex
@@dualsportedc yes that’s basically what it is. It’s convexed and not full height obviously. But a clear edge bevel that I just followed from Kyle 🥰
You are totally right that high end steels with good ht are easier to sharpen (given you dont use a 5$ shit stone from temu & co).
Also i can fully recommend stroppy stuff emulsions. They are the best i have ever tried. Also Roman Kasé that swore by ken schwartz (rip) emulsions has found stroppy stuff to be even better then the ken schwartz ones.
I am totally getting some then!
try sharpening magnacut on anything thats not diamond. Ill wait the year it takes.
@@lostshoe85 you make no sense haha no one said anything about that🤣 Magnacut is the easiest to sharpen. All the steels are easy if you have the correct stones- diamonds.
@@lostshoe85 i do full diamond sharpenings on all carbide (especially vanadium carbide) rich steels. That said magnacut is one of the easier steels to sharpen.
@@Superbus753 agree with everything you said🥰
I hate the staples
Haha
Russian speaker here, the venev stones are pronounced “va-nyov” (since they come from the city of Венёв) but most English speakers in the knife world seem to have settled on pronouncing it so that it rhymes with weave. It’s not technically correct but everyone will know what you’re referring to so 🤷
Thanks so much for clarifying that!
Wow E
Love ya T!
Just don't get acetone on your table it takes the finish off of it
It won’t. It’s a plastic table so there is no finish. ❤
@@ericasedc someone on my family knock a bottle on my table and took the finish off so I had to strip the table and had to redo it lol
@@nightwalker2830 dang!
Erica, I love your videos but do you have to stop sharpening after each stroke to talk and touch the blade edge..??? We can’t feel or see what you’re talking about. Get on with it already..!!
Thanks for taking the time to comment- I appreciate it!
It's the vanadium content that requires the diamond stoned.
So spyderco zdp189 hrc 65-67 will sharpen fine on almost all stones. No vanadium. Great steel esp from mbk.
Anyway have fun.
Thanks so much for watching and commenting!