Last year I bought a 455 rancher. Took off the muffler after a few tanks of fuel to see how the piston & cylinder were wearing in and on mine, it's just a hollow can, like yours after the baffle delete but with an IMO small hole under the spark arrester/deflector like your dad's. Been thinking about opening it up, just wasn't sure how a strato saw would react. Thanks for sharing!
In my opinion only; the Husqvarna 455 Rancher is the best all-a-round saw on the market today. My Company has a 2010 model with not one issue. We have five Husqvarna saws right now. One Stihl, a small one for light delimbing. The Husqvarna 372xp is in my opinion only; one of the best pro saws for all-a-round professional jobs. God bless!
Thanks, I appreciate it. Yeah, they're great saws. They get overlooked a lot. People are catching on in my area, but one used to be able to buy them dirt cheap. They're a bit heavier than others in the same category, but not enough to deter me. At the end of the day, they'll put wood in the truck and a smile on your face. All for a decent price at that!
You got me. I heard that good sounding high rpm screamer and i was putting my clothes back on so i could go out to the garage and gut my muffler. Then i realized. Haha good one
Great saw! I’ve had mine for eight years now and it’s still running great. I cut probably 2-3 cords of wood per season (we heat with wood) and this saw has been excellent. I’ve considered mods, but I need reliable service so I’ve left her stock. Good luck with the mods, it’s fun tinkerin!
I’ve had the 455 two seasons this will be my third.. I’ve cut about 16 face cords 8 per year.. besides some sap I can clean off it starts like the day I bought it. Most reliable saw out there I’ve been told many times.. good video.
Definitely noticable improvement. Seems to have far better responsiveness, a little more on the top end and it seems to not lose its lungs on the bottom end when you load it up. Makes it run, well... Like a 55.5 cc saw probably should run stock. Not all choked up and slower than a 50cc saw running .325.
Howdy! Somehow missed this video before, but glad I watched it. There is just something genuine and unpretentious about Your Videos and presentation. Felt like I was right there watching alongside, as you made the muffler mod. Nice job, and that throttle response was CRISP! Yeah it made a difference! That is one Beuuutiful Dog dog you have there. @23:01, so cute. Your SLO-MO of her at the end, well, I just had to Subscribe! You’re blessed with having her and Your Dad in your Life. Stay safe and Healthy!
I had a Jonsered 2255 for a few years. Loved it. Was always an excellent saw. I just completely lost interest in it when my Poulan 330 beat it...handily. just the way it went for me. Still a great saw.
Yeah it's a good firewood saw. It's slow and honestly, "mediocre" in my world, but it never fails to put wood in the truck ;) Those poulans are good runners!
@@CSkwirl it was a random clip from a different day. Just happened to be wearing the same thing. I was like 🤔 I wonder if?.........ha! Had I though about it ahead of time, I would have swapped on the same 20" bar instead of 24" and put a half wrap back on it ;)
Great saw. It can be a good idea if you use standard gas for cars to remove gas if its not used within 6 month since after 6 month gas and ethanol can separate and you get all kind of problems. Thx
My 455 doesn’t have the baffle plate inside the factory muffler. Husky must have realized removing it was a good thing. I still intend on opening up the exhaust hole like you did. That opening is super tiny!
Two stroke exhaust is very complex if you really get down to exhaust pulses, expansion chambers, tail length etc. I’m not sure louder or less restriction means more power. It might. It might also lean the saw way out requiring a reject to richen up fuel.
2 stroke motors will burn down if the don't breath correctly. Reducing exhaust back pressure could cause a burn down. I stick to the engineered stock exhaust. My 455 Rancher runs great as a stock machine. Good luck with the mods.
If you ran a marathon, would you like to run it wearing a baffle plate (mask) or without a baffle plate? Which one would FORCE you to breath differently?
@@PapaFoxtrot2002 joe, I have ridden sleds, boats and fast cars. The modified rigs are fun but may not make a cross country trip. My stock rigs always will. I enjoy the dependable ones for the long haul.
The small mod he did will not cause "burn down," In fact, I've never seen any damage unless there is excessive back pressure and a leak at the exhaust to cylinder mating surface.
That’s an old wives tail….the only reason any engine would “burn down” after a mod would be because of an improper tune afterwards! Same with running an engine with open headers …many people have always said “You’ll burn your valves if you run open headers” ….again..only if it’s not properly tuned……not because of the open headers.
Two-cycle engines require some back pressure to perform optimally. I have a newer version of this saw and it performs flawlessly as long as the routine maintenance is done. Throttle response, at least in my case, is redundant.
I never noticed before, but I just test fit it onto my 359 while I had it. It fits! I really like the chain tensioner system in the cover like that. I'm actually in the process of grafting one into a 3120xp cover to convert it to a side adjust. Just a couple things to "tweak" before it fits 😆
just lost my boxer of 12 years to kidney failure, love seeing doggy's and their toys! we played tug o war and fetch everyday after his routine meals like clockwork! #mansbestfriend
It's never easy, nor do I think it should be. They impact our lives far beyond what we ever expect. I lost a bloodhound years ago and it still chokes me up something fierce if we get to telling stories about him. I feel for you, I really do.
Daphne is the luckiest dog in the world! Thanks for the video and showing the disassembly, removing the baffle plate, opening up the exhaust exit, and assembly of the crimped (pinch weld) style muffler. You never know what you are getting into once you start going past the point of no return. I'm wondering if the Chinese AM mufflers are more open out of the box? Before you know it you'll give your dad's saw a base gasket delete. What saw where use using at 19:10?
I'm the luckiest man to have her ;) she's definitely "best friend" material. I'm wondering the same thing with an aftermarket muff. There's gotta be a better option for a muffler. At 19:10 it's a Husqvarna 359 that I ported
The stihl 026 came with a catalytic in the exhaust in my area for a few years. A chore to gut - chinese mufflers I've ordered for these are straight through. Definitely a big difference in quality though.
How is your mod not melting the chain brake? Opened port beyond the deflector ,just wondering cause I did this same mod, opened the exhaust port like this, didn’t work out, I had to add an extra long deflector to deflect the exhaust gases away from all of the plastics to avoid melt downs.Lol them smaller x torques need all the help they can get, power wise, but can be tricky to tune
I explain it in the video. If you watch at the 12:40 mark in the video it shows this. I didn't open it any further beyond the deflector than the factory hole was. I think you're seeing the shiny edge on top that I touched/cleaned up with the burr. Underneath where the actual outlet is, isn't opened that far forward. The majority of the exhaust gasses hit the deflector and push ALL of the the charge (including any little bit that's trying to go straight up) out forward toward the front of the saw. Therefore, no melted plastics.
Can you please tell me the size of the T Handle wrench used for the screw removal on the muffler? Like the video, and understand about the rain in Washington!!
Just tried this on my 460 Rancher. Had the three bolt set up but the baffle plate was spot welded in about 9 places and removing it caused damage. Not blaming Samish. I just can’t get over the lengths Husqvarna went through to make sure the 460 baffle won’t come out without half destroying the muffler. I’m debating looking the net for someone who sells these mufflers without the baffles. I called West Coast Saw asking why they had no bark boxes or anything for a “homeowner” 460 as he sniffed the answer.
Most people don't spend money modding a throw away saw (plastic bottom end, when its cooked its not really rebuildable), so it wouldn't sell well enough to be worth it for him designing and tooling all the stuff needed to offer those components
How do you tune it low and high once you gut the muffler or add a pipe? Is it low that needs it or high? Or both? I’m no mechanic, it I know what a saw that’s not running right or cutting right feels n looks like. I just don’t know how to fix it.
Usually it will need high jet adjustment. It will not warm up as fast and may need a slight low jet adjustment and possibly an increase in idle rpm depending on the saw and how aggressive you go with the opening. Kind of a case by case deal.
The exhaust box is designed to reduce noise, eliminate sparks from being emitted and be a tuned exhaust to increase fuel efficiency and engine output. More noise does not equate to more output.
The dog really wants to play fetch with that toy..so bored. The sound is slightly louder because of less deflection of sound waves by the baffle. I would put fins inside to further muffle and gain compression. It needs to have the right amount of channeling to be more efficient as well as quiet.
I fast forwarded to the part with the dog. I wouldn’t watch your channel if she wasn’t on there. Don’t you have another pup, I feel like she’s not getting much screen time…
Two stroke engines require an amount of backpressure to operate efficiently and taking out the baffle plate may have just as easily reduced power as increased it. Removing the baffle would have reduced backpressure that would have necessitated retuning of the mixture/ignition at the very least. Husqvarna would not have added the baffle for no good reason as it costs money, it might have been for performance or noise of both. The only modified exhaust that would be worth putting on is one where there is documentary evidence of its benefit, having a biased subjective opinion is not enough.
Wow...not a single "like" for a cautious, sensible reply. Noise does NOT equal power. These sorts of videos and their assumed-to-be-effective "hacks" do bring to mind "the blind leading the blind".🤪😂
@@tylerheard1279Emissions are not a principal criteria of two stroke small machines as they will probably never meet the current requirements, hence the reason that many are moving to 4 stroke designs.
@clivewilliams3661 you are correct, it's tough to meet emissions with a two stroke. That's why they use all kinds of "tricks" to fall within what the regulatory agency considers acceptable for that model size during that particular production period. As you may have noticed, many people in the comments that own a 455 do not have the baffle plate installed from the factory. My guess is that husqvarna added it to improve emissions or removed it at a later date because they found another way to improve emissions without sacrificing power. They have to meet emissions yet constantly balance that with usability and output to stay competitive.
![[TH] VCT Pacific Stage 2 - Week 4 Day 3 // GEN vs TS | PRX vs ZETA](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/nspkjQuZve0/mqdefault.jpg)
That dog coming back with the toy was priceless!
She doesn't have the word "quit" in her vocabulary, that's for sure. She's a happy camper as long as something is being hucked into the woods.
Last year I bought a 455 rancher. Took off the muffler after a few tanks of fuel to see how the piston & cylinder were wearing in and on mine, it's just a hollow can, like yours after the baffle delete but with an IMO small hole under the spark arrester/deflector like your dad's. Been thinking about opening it up, just wasn't sure how a strato saw would react. Thanks for sharing!
The best small firewood saw period! I love mine, had it for years, and it still runs great! If you you can only want one saw, this one is my top pick!
That things like a brand new toy!! If you’ve ran a saw very much you can definitely see the difference!! Definitely gonna do my 455!!
In my opinion only; the Husqvarna 455 Rancher is the best all-a-round saw on the market today. My Company has a 2010 model with not one issue. We have five Husqvarna saws right now. One Stihl, a small one for light delimbing.
The Husqvarna 372xp is in my opinion only; one of the best pro saws for all-a-round professional jobs.
God bless!
Good comment... have you tried the 550XP Mark2?
Great video!! One of the best on YT for Rancher MM. Those Husky Ranchers are great budget saws.
Thanks, I appreciate it. Yeah, they're great saws. They get overlooked a lot. People are catching on in my area, but one used to be able to buy them dirt cheap. They're a bit heavier than others in the same category, but not enough to deter me. At the end of the day, they'll put wood in the truck and a smile on your face. All for a decent price at that!
Nice work, you can see and hear the difference
You got me. I heard that good sounding high rpm screamer and i was putting my clothes back on so i could go out to the garage and gut my muffler. Then i realized. Haha good one
Nice job Ben, keeping that saw running good.
Great saw! I’ve had mine for eight years now and it’s still running great. I cut probably 2-3 cords of wood per season (we heat with wood) and this saw has been excellent. I’ve considered mods, but I need reliable service so I’ve left her stock. Good luck with the mods, it’s fun tinkerin!
I’ve had the 455 two seasons this will be my third.. I’ve cut about 16 face cords 8 per year.. besides some sap I can clean off it starts like the day I bought it. Most reliable saw out there I’ve been told many times.. good video.
Definitely noticable improvement. Seems to have far better responsiveness, a little more on the top end and it seems to not lose its lungs on the bottom end when you load it up.
Makes it run, well... Like a 55.5 cc saw probably should run stock. Not all choked up and slower than a 50cc saw running .325.
These are really great saws for any home project 😊
Howdy! Somehow missed this video before, but glad I watched it. There is just something genuine and unpretentious about Your Videos and presentation. Felt like I was right there watching alongside, as you made the muffler mod. Nice job, and that throttle response was CRISP! Yeah it made a difference!
That is one Beuuutiful Dog dog you have there. @23:01, so cute. Your SLO-MO of her at the end, well, I just had to Subscribe! You’re blessed with having her and Your Dad in your Life. Stay safe and Healthy!
I had a Jonsered 2255 for a few years. Loved it. Was always an excellent saw. I just completely lost interest in it when my Poulan 330 beat it...handily. just the way it went for me. Still a great saw.
Yeah it's a good firewood saw. It's slow and honestly, "mediocre" in my world, but it never fails to put wood in the truck ;)
Those poulans are good runners!
Great info! Always wondered about those mufflers! Have a great weekend buddy! 👍👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏🙏🙏🙏
Right back at ya bud!! Always good to see you in here! Hope you had a good Thanksgiving!
I have a 455 rancher had it for years took the screen out it seems to run good now had a problem with it oiling it's doing better now
The ye old pinch and roll. Works well on nuts too
I have a 55 Rancher and I believe they were introduced in ‘90
Well played on the switch up!
Haha I thought it was fun ;)
@@samishsawworks5870 you had me for about a second lol!
@@CSkwirl it was a random clip from a different day. Just happened to be wearing the same thing. I was like 🤔 I wonder if?.........ha! Had I though about it ahead of time, I would have swapped on the same 20" bar instead of 24" and put a half wrap back on it ;)
Sounds like it has more rpm after the muffler mod 👍
Awesome video
Great saw. It can be a good idea if you use standard gas for cars to remove gas if its not used within 6 month since after 6 month gas and ethanol can separate and you get all kind of problems. Thx
My 455 doesn’t have the baffle plate inside the factory muffler. Husky must have realized removing it was a good thing. I still intend on opening up the exhaust hole like you did. That opening is super tiny!
Love my 455 rancher. Just something honest about it if that makes sense. I have a Dolmar 111 and a Stihl 038 but my 455 is the last one I'd sell.
Two stroke exhaust is very complex if you really get down to exhaust pulses, expansion chambers, tail length etc. I’m not sure louder or less restriction means more power. It might. It might also lean the saw way out requiring a reject to richen up fuel.
He tuned it after the mod.
2 stroke motors will burn down if the don't breath correctly. Reducing exhaust back pressure could cause a burn down. I stick to the engineered stock exhaust. My 455 Rancher runs great as a stock machine. Good luck with the mods.
been running a ms362 with a piece of 2" box section as an exhaust for years and had no one problem with it except for it removing my hearing
If you ran a marathon, would you like to run it wearing a baffle plate (mask) or without a baffle plate? Which one would FORCE you to breath differently?
@@PapaFoxtrot2002 joe, I have ridden sleds, boats and fast cars. The modified rigs are fun but may not make a cross country trip. My stock rigs always will. I enjoy the dependable ones for the long haul.
The small mod he did will not cause "burn down," In fact, I've never seen any damage unless there is excessive back pressure and a leak at the exhaust to cylinder mating surface.
That’s an old wives tail….the only reason any engine would “burn down” after a mod would be because of an improper tune afterwards!
Same with running an engine with open headers …many people have always said “You’ll burn your valves if you run open headers” ….again..only if it’s not properly tuned……not because of the open headers.
Throwing some nice chips, sharp!
Two-cycle engines require some back pressure to perform optimally. I have a newer version of this saw and it performs flawlessly as long as the routine maintenance is done. Throttle response, at least in my case, is redundant.
Cool 😎
I bet that thing shares a lot of parts with the 346/350/351/353 series saws. Look *very* similar
They do not share anything.
Thank you
Was that a hexhead tool you used to remover screws? What size ?
You essentially straight piped it. 😆
i got my 455 last winter so its not to old.opened up the muffler and it didnt even have that big baffle
Any suggestions why my stock 455 doesn't have that baffle? I bought it new last year
The clutch covers on those 455 ranchers will fit the 350 series saws the chain tensioner
I never noticed before, but I just test fit it onto my 359 while I had it. It fits! I really like the chain tensioner system in the cover like that. I'm actually in the process of grafting one into a 3120xp cover to convert it to a side adjust. Just a couple things to "tweak" before it fits 😆
@@keithclark486 They are of completely different design. They do not fit.
just lost my boxer of 12 years to kidney failure, love seeing doggy's and their toys! we played tug o war and fetch everyday after his routine meals like clockwork! #mansbestfriend
It's never easy, nor do I think it should be. They impact our lives far beyond what we ever expect. I lost a bloodhound years ago and it still chokes me up something fierce if we get to telling stories about him. I feel for you, I really do.
Daphne is the luckiest dog in the world! Thanks for the video and showing the disassembly, removing the baffle plate, opening up the exhaust exit, and assembly of the crimped (pinch weld) style muffler. You never know what you are getting into once you start going past the point of no return. I'm wondering if the Chinese AM mufflers are more open out of the box? Before you know it you'll give your dad's saw a base gasket delete. What saw where use using at 19:10?
I'm the luckiest man to have her ;) she's definitely "best friend" material.
I'm wondering the same thing with an aftermarket muff. There's gotta be a better option for a muffler.
At 19:10 it's a Husqvarna 359 that I ported
The stihl 026 came with a catalytic in the exhaust in my area for a few years. A chore to gut - chinese mufflers I've ordered for these are straight through. Definitely a big difference in quality though.
What size T-handle did you use to remove the muffler screws. Need to pick one up but not sure what size screws the muffler has. Metric no doubt.
What bar/chain is that?
How is your mod not melting the chain brake? Opened port beyond the deflector ,just wondering cause I did this same mod, opened the exhaust port like this, didn’t work out, I had to add an extra long deflector to deflect the exhaust gases away from all of the plastics to avoid melt downs.Lol them smaller x torques need all the help they can get, power wise, but can be tricky to tune
I explain it in the video. If you watch at the 12:40 mark in the video it shows this. I didn't open it any further beyond the deflector than the factory hole was. I think you're seeing the shiny edge on top that I touched/cleaned up with the burr. Underneath where the actual outlet is, isn't opened that far forward. The majority of the exhaust gasses hit the deflector and push ALL of the the charge (including any little bit that's trying to go straight up) out forward toward the front of the saw. Therefore, no melted plastics.
Can you please tell me the size of the T Handle wrench used for the screw removal on the muffler? Like the video, and understand about the rain in Washington!!
Got the same question?
Do you know what size it's?
do a vod on the limiter
🙋🏻♂️👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🔥
Just tried this on my 460 Rancher. Had the three bolt set up but the baffle plate was spot welded in about 9 places and removing it caused damage. Not blaming Samish. I just can’t get over the lengths Husqvarna went through to make sure the 460 baffle won’t come out without half destroying the muffler. I’m debating looking the net for someone who sells these mufflers without the baffles. I called West Coast Saw asking why they had no bark boxes or anything for a “homeowner” 460 as he sniffed the answer.
Most people don't spend money modding a throw away saw (plastic bottom end, when its cooked its not really rebuildable), so it wouldn't sell well enough to be worth it for him designing and tooling all the stuff needed to offer those components
Furthermore he's more of a stihl guy, I'm not entirely sure he makes bark boxes ANY huskys
@@Hugh_Jarsolelol.... 🙄
How do you tune it low and high once you gut the muffler or add a pipe? Is it low that needs it or high? Or both? I’m no mechanic, it I know what a saw that’s not running right or cutting right feels n looks like. I just don’t know how to fix it.
Usually it will need high jet adjustment. It will not warm up as fast and may need a slight low jet adjustment and possibly an increase in idle rpm depending on the saw and how aggressive you go with the opening. Kind of a case by case deal.
Gutted the.muffler on a 460 rancher removed spark.screen and opened up the exhaust port on muffler damn thing keeps up.to a 032 stihl
Whats the size Allen tool did you use on that thing can't seem to find the right one in my garage so ill need to buy one I guess.
It's metric. It is a 5mm
Not sure if you covered it in the video, but do you leave the screen out or do you put it back in?
By law it’s illegal to remove because of fire hazard, I cut in deep grass and weeds so I leave them in, it’s my pasture 😊
bought my rancher in 1980
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍💯💯💯💯💯💯
The exhaust box is designed to reduce noise, eliminate sparks from being emitted and be a tuned exhaust to increase fuel efficiency and engine output. More noise does not equate to more output.
I beg to differ, they will make more power if they breath better. Those stock mufflers are very restrictive.
i should take the headers off my camaro then
Four strokes are signifying different because you will burn valve seats without an exhaust of some sort
Put an Ironhorse Muffler on it
The dog really wants to play fetch with that toy..so bored. The sound is slightly louder because of less deflection of sound waves by the baffle. I would put fins inside to further muffle and gain compression. It needs to have the right amount of channeling to be more efficient as well as quiet.
I fast forwarded to the part with the dog. I wouldn’t watch your channel if she wasn’t on there. Don’t you have another pup, I feel like she’s not getting much screen time…
Add a 49cc 460 jug/ piston and wake her up...
Two stroke engines require an amount of backpressure to operate efficiently and taking out the baffle plate may have just as easily reduced power as increased it. Removing the baffle would have reduced backpressure that would have necessitated retuning of the mixture/ignition at the very least. Husqvarna would not have added the baffle for no good reason as it costs money, it might have been for performance or noise of both. The only modified exhaust that would be worth putting on is one where there is documentary evidence of its benefit, having a biased subjective opinion is not enough.
Wow...not a single "like" for a cautious, sensible reply. Noise does NOT equal power. These sorts of videos and their assumed-to-be-effective "hacks" do bring to mind "the blind leading the blind".🤪😂
@@apex107lrp Thank you.
Many times, this is done by the factory to meet emissions standards.
@@tylerheard1279Emissions are not a principal criteria of two stroke small machines as they will probably never meet the current requirements, hence the reason that many are moving to 4 stroke designs.
@clivewilliams3661 you are correct, it's tough to meet emissions with a two stroke. That's why they use all kinds of "tricks" to fall within what the regulatory agency considers acceptable for that model size during that particular production period. As you may have noticed, many people in the comments that own a 455 do not have the baffle plate installed from the factory. My guess is that husqvarna added it to improve emissions or removed it at a later date because they found another way to improve emissions without sacrificing power. They have to meet emissions yet constantly balance that with usability and output to stay competitive.
Is it just me or does noone understand how to use dog paws and let the damn saw do all the work?
if you remove that plate, the engine will seize!!!! DO NOT DO THAT ON YOUR CHAINSAW!!!
How do you come to this conclusion?