FG Spell Templates Preview
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ต.ค. 2024
- Just released to the FG Art Pack Subscription and available as a stand-alone purchase, is the FG Spell Templates module.
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Drop these onto your map and they will auto-scale. You can draw with them, change the opacity, re-color them, rotate them, and move them around as needed.
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I love this, but until despite all the automation of FG there is still A LOT for DMs to manage and this just adds to that load. I'd like to use these templates, but until their usage is made more practical, I have to pass. However, if they're ever integrated into the spells themselves, I'll be the first in line to buy the pack.
I love that they cover just the squares that the spell templates are supposed to cover
Except the non-round ones didn't when they were turned...
@@LordCyler There are multiple versions to fit wharever angle you need
@@skellan9702 Then why was he rotating them? Why even have them do that? Also, if this isn't available to the players to do, I don't know why it's here. DM's have enough going on. A player should be doing this as their turn is coming up. This is a lot of work for any non-ongoing effect. Burning hands? Pass.
@@LordCyler Well some of them can be rotated. I agree it would be nice to have these linked directly to spells. Perhaps this will be introduced in future.
Just picked this up after insurmountable layering issues with the spell tokens extension, and after a little tinkering sadly I don't see how these templates can be a normal part of my game without being able to A) quickly rotate spells like color spray at angles other than 45 degree increments and B) more spells - there's so many missing right now. Here's hoping the assets get updated over time with more spells, and that work is put into making the angles easier to produce accurately and quickly. It would be ideal if we could select and place all our spells the way we draw lines/circles/cones currently, which works great and is fast and doesn't interrupt play much at all. Despite these criticisms, I love the progress FGU has been making, and am excited about future updates. I love being able to adjust colors and transparency effects especially.
Ahhhhh, I wish I had seen this 12 hours ago!! Damn, those effects are NICE!! Looking forward to using them this week in my next Dragonlance game.
We are as well. :)
I think it would be much better if these assets were added into the user paint layer rather than the DM adding them to the map layer as part of the map images.
Really cool feature and thanks for that. Would it possible to build on it can add by allowing players ability to (for example) right click on a map and load available templates shared By the gm to draw. Before accepting it, the gm could use a confirmation tick, like done for moment control to have the final say and they could control the opacity aspects and final tweaking. Might help spread the load on the gm. Great feature though!
You can always request new features on our Unity wiki.
@@FantasyGrounds thanks I’ll give it a shot ! Great product btw issuing it weekly
beautiful, love to see the new content!
More to come!
I think this is really cool but I can't possibly imagine as a DM having time to edit the map to add these - especially for instantaneous effects. Do players have the ability to add or draw these? It would be amazing if there was a feature whereby the spell itself had a draggable image associated. Otherwise I just can't see myself using most of these as a DM on the fly unless I'm pre-setting an encounter with a heap of spell effects already working. Or am I totally missing something here?
For now it is just GM only. I don't think it's something you would necessarily use every time, but I could see it adding some great value to big boss fights with spellcasters. They are presized, so it is mostly just dragging onto the map and they will auto-scale for you. With some practice, I could see it being just as fast as dragging out and measuring the distance with pointers -- or pulling it up while the player does the measurement and placement with pointers. Then you just drop the image over where they said they wanted it placed.
@@FantasyGrounds Can they be hotbarred? Would be cool to be able to drag/drop from a hotbar some of my player's favourite spells.
J Cadence, exactly why I am passing on these until they're made more practical. DMs already have enough to manage. I absolutely love the idea/art, but my brain needs to focus on other stuff when DM'ing.
Is there a way to snap points (such as LoS walls, spell template origins, etc) to the map grid? That would help a lot.
Snapping to grid happens on the center point if you have snap-to-grid enabled.
Can these images be sent to map as tokens? I'd like to add effects on them
So does it apply the spell effect? TBH I cannot see any useful purpose for something instantaneous at all unless when you drop it it targets everyone within it for you.
Good observation on instantaneous stuff. It definitely has more value for persistent effects. The assets might be useful for extension authors if they can tie it to the spell effect and have it automatically placed and removed, but we don't have anything like that currently as far as I'm aware.
Does an effect like Fog Cloud automatically obscure LOS and light sources(in the upcoming feature update)?
Also, is it possible to make an effect automatically follow a specific token? E.g. a turn undead radius effect automatically follows a player cleric token whilst they move their token around?
No, it doesn’t support any of those at the moment.
@@DougDavison Thanks for your reply. That's a shame! Is it on the to-do list?
@@bucketsmith player managed spell effects are on our list at a high level, but I'm not sure exactly what that functionality will look like yet. Having the fog obscure the vision ranges is probably a bit too specific and advanced than what we are planning for the future though.
@@FantasyGrounds Alright, alright. Maybe if you also allow circles as objects that the light sources and LOS interacts with, that we can play on top of the graphics? I noticed in other vids that one could do walls that way, but round pillars don't have a circle tool.
Master B, that'd be cool, but the effect is so obvious that I'm confident that it'd be easy for a DM to remember to narrate and enforce an applicable penalty for obscured line of sight.
Doug, how do you this in a more practical sense? Can these spell templates, brushes or decorations be added to the spell descriptions on a character's action tab, so that they can place them directly onto the map themselves? This is simply amazing, but would love to see this in a more practical use scenario in mid-combat encounter.
That is something we are considered for a future update for Fantasy Grounds Unity.
@@FantasyGrounds this seems like it should be an integral part of this new option.
@@FantasyGrounds would it work as is, if you were to open up the spell description on the action tab, unlock it, and drag the appropriate assets to the spell description, and then during a combat encounter, the player could open up the spell description and drag the asset onto the map from there? Or does it have to be done via the GM's map tools?
@@twseifert not presently.
This is amazing.
Can players use these too, or only the DM?
DM only right now.
As nice as this feature is, it would be amazing if players could use it too. Players should be able to do minor modifications to a map as well. Otherwise it's just more work for the dm and players can't use this incredible feature.
Could you hypothetically make these into a token?
I can only echo what others have said. Fantasy Grounds is amazing but combat is still slow and this, while great, will only slow it down more 😔. Players need to be able to do this and it needs to be attachable to the spell in the actions tab entry.
Absolutely cool. I will use them as DM, for sure. However, I also would put on the wish list what others have said. Allow the players the ability to use these, add each to the corresponding spells in the actions tab. Of course, allowing the DM to either modify what they create or approve in some way too. Thank you for this amazing feature.
Hello, this is a very nice addition to FG. My friend and I are DMs and both have FGU Ultimate License, but he's running Pathfinder: War for the Crown, which I think is a FG module, and I am running Rise of the Runelords which is a FGU module. So my question is, will this work in both our campaigns, or only in mine?
It will work within the game you are running as a DM. There is no way to use it as a player at this time.
@@DougDavison We are both DMs running different modules. But one module works for FG, and the other for FGU. And your product page seems to say that these spell effects won't work in FG. Can you please clarify?
War for the Crown works in both FG and FGU. The Spell Templates only work in FGU.
@@DougDavison So my friend can have Spell Templates in War for the Crown? This is so confusing. My friend tells me that when he launches War for the Crown, even though he's launching it through FGU, it appears that FG is launched instead. That's why we don't know if the Spell Templates will work with it. At any rate we'll buy it and try it, and if it doesn't work we'll refund it. It would save us some time though if you could be more clear in your descriptions of how this stuff works.
@@insomniacult when your friend loads up the program he has to choose either FG or FGU. They are completely separate applications. Once the program loads, he loads War for the Crown. If he started it on FG and later got FGU, he can copy his campaign over to FGU and then load and run it from there. As long as he runs it in FGU, he can use the spell templates.
www.fantasygrounds.com/forums/showthread.php?55522-How-to-Migrate-a-FGC-Campaign-to-FGU
Shame paypal is needed for a purchase. Is there any other way to buy it? I refuse to use paypal.
You can buy it through steam.
As Malcomb mentioned.
This is great but worthless for game play. It needs to be for GAMEPLAY not more icons or more things for the GM to do.
This. As a GM you have enough to do without having to do the players spells for them. FG need to hire the guys that make the FG mods on DMS guild. Rob_2e (Rob Twohy) and friends! He has a mod that allows you to add images to any spell which will automatically resize to the correct size and most importantly allow your players to drop them on the map and interact with them.
@@nickbianchi4800 Hey Nick, i cant find that module. Can you post a link? That would be awesome! Thanks!!!
@@ulrichfahr2077 Hi Ulrich. This is the mod I use for it - www.dmsguild.com/product/310505/?affiliate_rem=878507. (To use this mod you also need to have this one - www.dmsguild.com/product/261591/?affiliate_rem=878507)
I use this pack for the spell tokens themselves - www.dmsguild.com/product/195599/DUNGEONS-AND-DRAGONS-5e-Spell-Tokens-21?src=hottest_filtered&filters=0_0_0_0_0_0_45545_0_0
I also have this one for expanded spell functionality but it is not required for the first two to work - www.dmsguild.com/product/209256/Fantasy-Grounds-5E-Effects-Coding--Spells?src=also_purchased
I have most of Rob2e's FG mods installed as they are so handy for running games and adding some much needed functionality to FG. Caveat, I have extensively tested and used all these mods in FG, I'm still in the process of testing them all in FGU. So far everything has worked in FGU and if it doesn't I'll just jump on their Rob2e's discord where they are great at helping out.
@@nickbianchi4800 Thank You so much!
Thanks for this one
You bet
Is there a reason why the Steam store page for FG Spell Templates says literally nothing about spells and talks about decorative assets for the Abyss?
Thanks for letting us know. That was a copy and paste error that slipped through the cracks. It should be fixed now.
@@FantasyGrounds Good shit. Just saw the fix the other day lol
Has this been setup for the players to use?
This is for GM use. At this time only the GM can change the maps.
Can you attach the spell effect to the image?
You can drop them on the map from the assets folder but I am not to sure what you mean by attaching it?
@@FantasyGrounds thankyou, I hadn’t seen or noticed how you can drag an drop the effect directly onto the spell.
I love seeing new features in Fantasy Grounds Unity but, for me at least, I'd rather use my brain power to narrate a cool twist, evocate the players while thinking about what the enemy would do and perhaps including a vile monologue for them. I mean its too much to think about and the possibilities are endless. I cannot accept in my games nothing less than the current level of automation.
:)
Does it work with FG Classic?
FGU only
How difficult / risky for my campaign data is it to upgrade to Unity?
@@eyedoc8567 it is very easy. Just copy your campaign folder from FGC's data folder to FGU's data folder and test in FGU. Your FGC campaign will remain unchanged and in the state it was in before moving it.
www.fantasygrounds.com/forums/showthread.php?55522-How-to-Migrate-a-FGC-Campaign-to-FGU
@@eyedoc8567 you should make the switch sooner than later, FGC will soon be in maintenance mode. After June, only FGU will be receiving updates.