Half-Price Hack? 2020 Ducati Panigale V4 S vs. 2005 Suzuki GSX-R 1000 | Common Tread XP
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- Half-Price Hack? 2020 Ducati Panigale V4 S vs. 2005 GSX-R 1000 | Common Tread XP
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How far have superbikes advanced in 15 years? What better way to find out than test the legend of the 2005 Suzuki GSX-R1000 against one of 2020’s most advanced models, the Ducati Panigale V4 S. Ride along with Zack and Ari - from road trip to lap-time challenge - as they unwind the differences between the bikes and find out how they stack up.
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Oh!! this is what revzilla needed.
much better than watching Tiger King and staying indoors.
Hopefully we all get to ride very soon
That video felt like a tribute for k5
What if you guys swapped bikes as well????
@@usoohot yea they did that its somewhere towards the end where they mention it
This one sparks joy! (I've had this feeling over the years but to see it on a scientific test is awesome. I imagine if a quickshifter/autoblip mod and tc on gixer would make it better?) & compared to modern s1000rr (the bike that was originally based on the Gixxer - how would that test go). Curious to see - awesome work guys Zach/Arie and all the background crew! awesome job!....
I'm 38 years old. This is my Saturday morning cartoons.
Same. Cheers (with coffee)
Kris Kinsey also just enjoyed coffee while watching. ☕️
Thats awesome, I am 38 also, my 16 yo son calls it our Saturday morning cartoons too!
Hey... I'm also 38.
Cheers to all the old farts in the world. You're all awesome!
The problem with Italian bikes is that they're not Japanese.
Ehh. The one Italian bike that can compete with the big 4 would be the RSV4, other then that, the rest just look fancy
Amin!
im italian and i have japanese bike for only one reason italian bikes brake down no matter what, i mean when they work they are super but they work properly only few times
@@shawnlack1527 you're saying like there's anyone else trying.
italian > japanese.
That gsx-r deserves a complete teardown and rebuild. Beautiful bike
Doesn't appear to need it.
it deserves a better paint job
@@paradiddlesixix7530 It really is quite bad isn't it haahha.
Got an older gerneration (1990s double cradle) GSXR with a white background and light blue and dark blue stripes. It h(e)arkens back to the old days of the 1980s with Wes Cooley. Some people like GSXRs with old Suzuki colors.
Brothers, I know this is 3 years old, but I just *have* to say that this was awesome through and through -- not just because my beloved old timer kicked some Italian butt, not because you two are just fantastic sports about this whole thing. Of course, I'm aware that you're friends and that this whole rivalry is tongue in cheek, but the dedication to fix the GSXR in the night and to swap riders and tires on the track for science is just chef's kiss.
If ever you two read this, know you've made yet another rider proud to be one. Fantastic episode, boys.
I'm so thankful that we can have full, unadulterated Zach and Ari not locked behind a paywall. Thank you Revzilla for signing the most entertaining and knowledgeable motorcycle duo known to man.
Zack and Ari are like old top gear for bikes, only more knowledgeable and on point.
I mean, the two blokes at 44 teeth give them a run for their money as the most entertaining motorcycle duo.
@@Arthurzeiro I was about to include them my comment, but thought it might be too long.
Yeah those two are top lads as well, but I find them a bit lethargic when compared to Zack and Ari. These two stitch their content seamlessly.
Or maybe I feel so because 44teeth videos are significantly longer, dunno..
@@autumnleaf2976 The brits seem to splice a lot more POV footage aka 'motovlog style footage' and behind the scenes workshop stuff at JHS on their videos, not to mention the copious ammounts of swearing and juvenille jokes, whereas these guys have a more concize editing, they're both great in their own ways, and when Zack does his own POV rides in the now called Daily Rides it's also neat.
@@Arthurzeiro yeah, those two are more 'free willed' with their content, roll on the camera and do what they really do. While Zack and Ari are more 'production like', and only let through the cream of the content they filmed, so there is no 'bland' bits here and there. Both are good in their own way, for someone who watch only bike content on TH-cam, 44teeth might feel more wholesome, for others who are more diverse or have limited time space for TH-cam, Zack and Ari delivers.
The Suzuki’s paint job is it’s own anti theft device.
😂😂😂😂
Right
I totally agree with it 😂😂😂
I don’t hate tbh
@@Blob.fishmusic its deffinitly a unique taste and that all i can say about it that ducati on the other hand with all that bling one can argree that this bike screams steal me
Underrated comment. 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂🤣
As a previous owner of a K5 GSXR 1000 and current owner of a K6 GSXR 1000, I approve this message.
What's the difference?
@@Safsbmwlife one more K
Oh, thanks.
Paint .
Silver is mint
the best is K5 , only program maps different
One of my favorite things to take from this video is watching these guys admit they were anxious, scared, perhaps jittery, but push forward for their very best performance. That’s what’s it’s about.
Zack and Ari are probably Revzilla’s best investment. They are real gems.
Agree. I'm so happy they're on a reputable channel that doesn't make you pay to watch these two bond and talk bikes! Loved them on MC Magazine and they're perfect here
Exactly what i was thinking.
I'll follow these guys anywhere. They are the reason I bought a Motortrend on Demand subscription.
SO F****** TRUE
@@dar2740 I would have done the same but that content isn't available in NZ where I am.
Less cost, less heat, more track performance. Impressive Suzuki.
You're kidding yourself if you think it could beat the Ducati at a proper track
@@canismajoris6733 you are kidding yourself if you think Ducati can do a better job with less cost. Sorry friend.
@@kayhoww He never said they could? Where did you get that from? Ducati smokes the GSXR in most situations.
@@christomas8191 I disagree but that’s not what I care about anyway. I don’t care about a somewhat fragile rich mans toy. Suzuki has proven itself time after time. This video has really angered you fan boys.
@@kayhoww but that isn't the whole point of why Ducati makes their bikes. They don't care about cost/performance. They aren't targeting people like you.they just care about Performance and looking good doing it.
This video was the reason i got a 2006 Suzuki GSX-R1000.
Had it now for 2 years and planning on keeping it forever.
Well done RevZilla!
I'd really like to revisit this episode in 15 years and see if the Ducati even still runs after 55k miles. Seems unlikely to me that it will, you can knock the rice burners all you want but the pasta powered rockets could never hold a candle to their reliability.
The new ones can, ive seen a few at 50k miles
@@Shadow0fd3ath24 I've also seen one with a big hole in its case, and many more running nebulous electrical gremlins. I guess it's just a roll of the dice. the covid build quality has led to some funky stuff. well, it's not just Ducati, I gotta new-ish ktm that just doesn't like its front breaklight switch. it works fine but the computer doesn't like it.
@@davestephens3246 motor replacement or complete rebuild like Shadetree Surgeon had to deal with after a few thousand miles is hardly what I'd call basic service.
@@davestephens3246 why are you so angry tough guy? Rebuilding the piece of crap is hardly what I'd classify as just service don't get your panties in a bunch kid.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH
That thermometer crotch temperature is an underrated AF test. That's seriously needs to be a category permanently done by motorcycle reviewers. What a brilliant idea!
Panigale is crazy hot.
@@daytonasayswhat9333 Yeah, I test rode one in Thailand. It is not a good bike for hot climates unless you want your nads poached.
Hi true story bro they put an high temp logo on a new gear indicator on my pizza pani V4 because it's hot as fuck N it was a problem too to see the gear now it's good anyway for the heat there is kit N things hoses or high perf coolant if u wanna do something because lol heat is normal on this bike but u can have less with love from Paris bro
Easily answered by this simple question; is it a ducati?
hi bro what do u want to say ?
It was hilarious to send a Ducati to the dealership and ask them if something wasn't right coz' it was beaten by 15 years old Suzuki. 😂
Suzaki
Yep that was funny😁
Embarrassing for the Ducati dealer I would say
🤣
Japanese reliability is unquestionable
RIP to those that bought a $30K bike to keep up with a K5 2005 GSXR. I’ve never been convinced of ever spending that kind of money on a motorcycle. It’s the rider and properly setup bike that makes it fast, not just the specs.
some are poor and some have money.
right bro 30k is a nice ass car
@@jradish where im from 30k the best fun new car you can get is a hyundai i20n or a fiesta st a gr86 is 50k here
The ducati does come with a collection of safety mechanisms and rider enhancements
@@PLxFTW and hefty maintenance costs.
The 2005/6 GSXR 1000 was renowned for particularly strong mid range torque. Modern day Sportsbikes have sacrificed some of that mid range torque to run higher revs and subsequently higher potential BHP figures. This means that theoretically newer Sports bikes can have a potentially higher top end but in some cases can take longer to get there/ use that advantage. You may find that the mid range torque (ofDave) is part of the reason why the GSXR 1000 K5/6 beat the Panigale times on the track.
Exactly. It also depends on the track. If the track has a lot of slow/mid speed corners, the mid-range power will pull you out of those corner quicker. If a track has more high speed corners or long straights, the top end power will assist you. The Panigale can't use its power as effectively compared to the GSXR.
@@paulyCi agree! The track plays a huge part. I think if the panigale would be set up correctly, it can be quicker on this track as well, but in the end there is more to consider than just two bikes at its own.
The panigale is a 1100cc v4 big bang engine, it has a lot of torque even from lower rpm.
“She may not look like much, but she’s got it where it counts, kid.”
Do you think Dave could make the Kessel Run in less than twelve parsecs?
@@donwanna3906 I'm confident he can. Something tells me he has experience as a smuggler...
I dropped my hydrospanner when I was changing my sprockets.
At the ducati dealership:
Customer's Complain: Looses to a K5 on track.
Shame
Hahaha
LMAO😂
Ducati mechanic after reading it: Mamma mía!!
Hey Duc dealer, I got gapped by a K5 GSXR on my V4. I need a diag for why my feelings got hurt so much.
I'd like to see how the Ducati fairs against my KLR 650. I just installed some Galfer SS brake lines which I believe is going to give me a slight edge.
Have a word
Add some decals and it'll be up to scratch
The Duc has nothing on the KLR, if the race were on a dirt track...
If it were a race to keep running till the heat death of the universe, you may have the best bike for the job.
As a cheap bastard, I LOVE this video. Not mentioned in the video is also the fun factor, and I find I have way more fun and get much more use from an inexpensive used item. Spend too much = too much babying and worrying about lost value. This video is a great demo on how to enjoy life more 👏
To be fair on the Suzuki, it wasn’t that long ago that every Ducati still made weird rhythmic rattling noises right from the factory.
It's called dry clutch...but yeah it sound like something broken.
I miss the constant “something is wrong with your bike bro.” 😢
What Would Grant Do I wouldn’t have known what this comment chain was about, if nobody would’ve used the words ‘dry clutch’. I’m glad somebody said it. To me, you just seem like a petty little boy who’s lashing out at people on the internet for no good reason.
Ha I had an 06' Ducati sport 1000 with a dry clutch. One day a guy came up to me and said there was something wrong with my bike. Lol
@@RATD0GG I've seen this guy on other videos doing the same stuff. Miserable person, probably.
Wow I’m amazed at their honesty of actually admitting the Gixxer is quicker. The boys in Bologna are probably hyperventilating.
Damn right you are
Going to roll back closer to the 2019 spring rate for sure
that is pretty unexpected. For the Bologna's boys, I think they get their comparison results from the superbike championship where they are dominating (also the suzuki)
Haha funny cuz it's a Gixxer from 2005. Geez
@@Marco-bq4hj Ducati didnt win WSB championship since 2011...
My K5 Gixxer is a beast and blows pretty much everything away. It’s to this day still my favorite bike and I’ve ridden almost everything new and old. It still provides the terrifying pucker factor that we all desire in our sport bikes.
This goes to show how impeccably engineered the Japanese Suzuki was in its day. And look at the mileage on that engine! It's fantastic that it's running so strongly still. I wonder if the Italian Ducati would still be running at that mileage. 🤔
I do wonder how a low mileage gsxr would do against the ducati considering it's embarrassing loss against a 55,000 mile commuter
Recently I was thinking about trading my Yamaha MT07 for a Ducati Supersport S. I'm more into nakeds, but I'd like to try something different. I called the best shop in my state and talked to the mechanic to see what he had to say about it. I ride between 800 to 1200 miles per month (highway, trips, city, etc.), my Yamaha is getting up there in the mileage department, but NEVER gave any issue.
The mechanic immediately said that was a very bad ideia. He said the Ducati could not handle being used as a "normal bike" like I do with my Yamaha. He told me the amount of different Ducatis they have to fix on a daily basis due to the most absurd problems are insane, so there was a very good chance I could have lots of different issues that would leave me stranded.
He told me: "If you want to try something new, just choose another Japanese brand, but leave european brands behind. Try a Z1000 or the new GSXS1000."
So that's it... I'd still like to try a Ducati someday, but seems I need to have another bike on the garage to use when the italian certainly breaks down.
55k milage is pretty low. In asian countries we used motorcycles alot. 55k is like beginner numbers. Most 150cc bike and 200cc chinese bike had 140k miles and running. And our zx10 most of them were gen 4 had 80k 90k mileage.
As much as I admire these guys' riding skills after watching them for a few years, I'm always impressed by Ari's mechanic chops. Most guys I know who ride, never turn a wrench- just pay someone else to do it.
650ib?
And he’s self taught, that’s the real I impressive thing for me.
I was going to say that one of my favorite moments from the video was watching him diagnose the problem, then also wipe down the socket before putting it back in his personal toolbox they took with them. It didn’t matter that it was super late, in a parking lot. He did it right.
Ari is a motorcycling god. I do most of the servicing on the trackbike myself. The only thing i won't touch is the engine (it will change some day). Keen to service the forks soon :)
He makes it look easy
I'd expect Barry Henning to have had the infamous dreadlocks back in 05.
Dreadlocks Henning was definitely Ari, Barry Henning would never have dreads.
Good ol k5 motor, still in production bikes to this day. One of the most loved years of the gsxr 1000 family.
Maybe the Suzuki is just a better bike? The computer drives the Dukati. The rider drives the GSXR.
This is exactly the type of video that the motorcycle community needs more of!
The guy who sold that Gixxer is surely crying after watching this
“That’s my baby” 😭
seriously 😂😂😂
Idk, video said that Ari rebuilt all the pivot points, no?
Why? There’s a million of them.
I guess not he probably sold it to buy an adv bike cause he is getting old. He would be proud thou.
You don't need 200hp. It's overkill and not enough traction. All you need is 160hp, traction, and good frame/chassis design. Suzuki obviously got the design right from winning AMA championships since the 90's.
When’s the last time they won AMA? When’s the last time it was even called AMA?
Isn't that why you have traction control? And remember Motogp uses traction control b4 you argue ot's just going to slow you down
@@robinbridgewater2126 you must have no skill if you have to mention traction control in your reply. Ducati Simp 👎
This is an absolutely legendary video for a legendary bike.
And the prices of K5’s just went up worldwide 😂
Yup. Lol.
@roh hit was that supposed to be funny?
@@christomas8191 a couple hundred people thought it was funny...
@@nikolovell the comment I was replying to was deleted 🤦♂️
Shhhhhhh
"Spec sheet numbers doesn't tell the whole story"
Hence proved
I am really blown away from the fact that a 15 year old super bike beats a modern super bike.
I just can't believe it
That gixxer is damn good man
I always road pre 2010 bikes, and of course argued theyre just as good as the new ones, but this video made my biased opinion a bit more factual :)
I feel like both modern bikes and cars are more bloated and numb feeling because of the extra gadgets and having to deal with new regulations in safety and emissions. I do think at some point we will work past that but its like starting from scratch sometimes. Best to buy used stuff till then
Marius Ipad that is very rude to say honestly :)
Had one, liked it.
Come on man, atleast give the respect where it is due. The gixxer and gsxr are different series of motorcycle, its like comparing a ninja 300 to zx6r
I'm so glad these two are back together, I used to love the old On Two Wheels episodes!
Brilliant. Street real content, compelling, exciting, surprising- and best of all it shows us that we can be proud of the steel we can afford.
I watch motorcycle videos every day and although I am not a racer (heck I am not even fast) this was one of the most entertaining 25 minutes I have yet enjoyed.
Awesome.
This was a plucky underdog story that turned into a murder mystery half way through.
Love. It.
Officer i swear i was going 0 miles per hour 😂😂
yea, I never broke the speed limit either on my 2005 ktm, same issue and no spare available anymore ((-:
My 2002 SV650 does the same speed all the time... and never gains miles..
It will be a low mileage bike forever :D
I just want to say this is my favorite video of yours, and I watched it three times. Thank you for this content, I really love it. Also I have a “Dave” myself, got it from a stranger online for the same price... only difference is that it was in great condition! Seriously the performance bargain of the century. Years later still running strong with minimal upkeep!
I don’t even own a motorcycle but I’ve loved them for all my 18 years. I have a poster of a 2005 gsx-r on my wall and I dream of owning one. Both of theses bikes are incredible and I’ve watched this video several times.
I'm 55 years old. Childhood dream was to own a 1000cc bike. I was riding a XR 200
Enduro at 18, then a tzr 125 on the road. My first 4 cylinder was a CBR 600.
Then i bought the (for me it was a) Beast !
Suzuki SV1000s ! Hydraulic clutch and loads of torque grunt !
All the big 4s left me for dead on the autobahn as it only did 140mph but it was how it got there which was so satisfying !
You take your time and be careful!
The streets are not race tracks !!!
I knew an 18 year old who passed his test and within a month he was dead.
Its worth crashing on a dirt bike to learn respect and to feel the energy involved when you lose control !
Now get out there and live your dreams man !
P.s. in the end i managed to crash all of my bikes and am lucky to be alive !
Man. Hope one day you get one.
I'm 61 now. Started on dirtbikes at 16, owned just about every xr and cr and still have an xr650L. Sportbikes? Busa. I like comfort.
Imagine RyanF9, Bret Tkacs, Jamie Robinson (from motogeo) and these guys having an own show! It would be like motorcycle heaven!
Softbaerchi Jamie can certainly join them, they live in same city I guess. Jamie is one another mad lad.
RyanF9 will be a Beast in this squad.
What about the brits from 44teeth?
@@Arthurzeiro 44teeth now need to add a Gixxer K5 to their Superbike shootout!
Don't forget Lemmy!
Nothing better than waking up on Saturday morning, having a cup of coffee and watching a nice Revzilla video. Love Zack and Ari together! Great vid guys!
Nothing?
Yup - pretty much sums it up!
Wake up, drink coffee, smoke a blunt, ride gsxr, watch revzilla video. Ez
Love the stuff you guys are putting out. Very happy I returned to the world of motorcycling. Motivation for my first track day next summer.
Wow. What an amazing video. I could not believe time went so quick watching this clip, felt like 10 minutes. Great content gents, keep up the good work and thank you for casting some reality on the current vs old tech.
Me after watching this checking the price of used GSX-R 1000.
Lol, me too !
Stock ones kinda suk buy the most modded one you can afford .
Ay no cap, but here in indonesia a papered gsxr1000 k5+ could cost $11K, So ima just gon watch ppl w it n not me myself owning it
On the road the gsxr 1000 slow af lol..unless u get a 17+
I got 1 for sale in naples Fl
The legend of the K5 always prevails. I remember racing mine around that same track back in 2016-18, it could hang with the brand new liter bikes all day. Suzuki just got it right in 2005-2006
Track is about the rider....not the bike...straight line its not close
Ha love it old school wins again
Wanna make a bet it’s not close ? There is only so much power that can be put down in a road bike style chassis that is also ridden on the road...
Oh boy, the heavy hitters have arrived! Good to see Brian watches these like everyone else
@@2wheelsonly614 okay so lemme see how laptimes compare on my magna vs that gsxr lol there's ALOT more than just the rider bro
What a twist. This was a great episode. And I had a lot of ideas and you addressed each of those. Awesome job fellas.
Out of all your content, this is my most favoritest episode. Though I have never owned, or even really liked Suzuki motorcycles a whole lot, the K5 1000 has been burned into my memory as the best, along with the GSX-R750 of that generation. I was just an impressionable teenager reading Cycle World magazines when these came out, but even as a Honda/Yamaha fanboy, the K5 1000 is very near the top of my list of bikes to own.
Best motorcycle content on the planet. Along with Ryan F9
Agreed! But Budget Bike Battles for the win!
Truth!
@@badgerman23 they're incredible too
Was that Ryan F9's white board???
44 teeth has entered the chat from across the pond.
Now you just hyped up all the Gixxer Bros... I'm never going to hear the end of it 😂
*hear and yeah, you probably won't. How many people are going to go buy a k5 now for their track rat?
Absolutely.lol
Plus there value fuck now I'm never going to find one 😢
We where never ever quiet.
It's your own fault for buying a ducati 😝
Wow I’m literally amazed by the GSXR at this point it’s kind of undeniable. I’m curious tho if you put it up against the fire blade or an R1 M how it would hold up still.
I got one 05 k5 I have it for the past 4 years.
Till today the smile and happiness after every ride is something can’t be explained
The 2005 (2006) Suzuki GSXR1000 is an absolute LEGEND bike! So much so, that BMW used it to develop their own S1000RR. The legendary K5 / K6 is truly something special.
They did, they bought 20 secondhand k5s to develop the S1000RR. Also said that the K5 was best 1000cc sports bike ever built. S1000RR feels JUST like a K5 when riding it.
@@bilbobaggins4710 2005 and 2006 was the same bike, just different colors to separate the years.
What about k5 and k6 600's? Are they also as good as 1000 on track?
@@kawasexy5525 K5 and K6 600 are different bikes. the K6 and K7 are really good the K4 and K5 not as much
@@kawasexy5525 K5 and K6 is swap over years for the 600 and 750. The K6 is a fully revised model over the K5 in the 600 and 750 class. The K6 600/750 (first of the underslung exhausts) are fantastic bikes, great on the track with a proven record. The K5/K6 1000 was so awesome for its mid-range drive and all round chassis, ive had 3 of them, amazing bikes, especially in the era when they was released.
In an Industry which is hunting for numbers, telling that specs are not everything 🤭... you are my heroes 👍. You have a new subscriber...
Yep specs just tell you information about particular components.
But lap times, tell you about the whole package.
@@mountainbikerdave do they tho? Lap times are heavily driver dependent and how familiar they are with their bikes.
@@Maseeha171 correct, but that's why you take multiple trips around the track. 😁
@@mountainbikerdave I still don't get how that changes anything, Marquez wouldn't lap as fast on a yamaha neither would Rossi on a Honda. Even they make a dozen laps or so
I got lost on TH-cam and ended up here, I know nothing about superbikes, and enjoyed every single second of this video !!! This battle was super interesting !
I think this is my 3rd or fourth time watching this episode. You guys killed it! Loved everything
What I came to the comments for: Ducati Vs Suzuki
What I got: I love these guys!
I love these guys!
Hahaha. I love these guys
It's like watching a fortnine video and wanting to have a conversation about the topic only to find the comment section is all about the production value of the episode lol
But damn ... I love these guys lol
Man, watching y’all take it to the track and hearing you say full throttle dragging elbow I was smiling for you. Great video!
Man, Ari, you dodged a bullet on those stator bolts. That could have got ugly when those bolts, or any of those bolts came out. Seen and heard what happens when that does, stator destroyed, case cover cracked/busted, flywheel weight reduction, etc. or maybe even worse.
So glad to see you checked into the noise before it went way south :)
The King remains on his throne after 15 years 🦾
Great win for the old tech!
You forgot to talk about the cost of maintenance, a major service on the V4 would be equivalent to buying another K5.
And good luck fixing anything engine related on a V4 in a parking lot.
I used to work for Motocorsa, I rode a clapped out GSXR and intentionally paid the price that most of our wealthy clients paid for a tune up for my whole bike. They would give me crap about not being able to polish a turd, yet I could easily ride at their pace without even trying hard. So I"m right there with you.
One of my all time fav videos from revzilla. Love watching it over and over again.
What great test,,I really enjoyed it.. I think the Rev zilla crew should do more of this kind of test in all categories.. Thumps up to Arry and Tack
i kinda want to see that 05 do the same competition with a 2020 gsxr
@@delusion2987 maybe strange too say, but I've owned once a 2005 RMZ450 and it was the most powerfull RMZ of all times. The 2006/2007 and on just didn't felt so powerfull and weren't. Scary 450 single bike.
@@wudntulike2no32
K5 and 6 only had a color change, same model, both had the slipper installed OEM
Reminds me of how the Fireblade is always the slowest on paper yet people seem to lap faster on it because it is so well balanced.
Problem with this super high end bikes is that only top 1 percent of rider can ride them fast make no mistake the v4 is a fast beast its alot faster technically then the gixer ducati test rider Alessandro valia rode it in valancia with slick and a dre exhuast kit and clock 1:36.84 wsbk bike does around 1:33 and motogp 1:30 so no a gixer is not faster then a v4 far from it but the ducati is hard to ride its power is imense and only the best rider can make use of it there a reason why reasonably skilled rider are riding old fireblade and raping the daylight of uber race machine like ducati and bmw
Still my all time favorite CTXP episode so far. Although the mini bike episode is a very close second.
Wow, this has to be one of the best bike videos i've ever seen. I am actually considering buying a k8 gsxr1000 and this came up in my youtube recommendations. Excellent timing.
I wonder why no one pits a 15-year-old Italian superbike against a brand new GSXR1000R?
If you can point to a working none museum piece example of a 15 year old italian superbike i would be surprised
A 2005 Ducati 999!?!? Lmao
Because we already know the answer
Or MV F4... aka The Painting.
Glorious to look at, but wouldn't start. How do I know?! Don't ask. ;)
@@andrewbozhozr MV F4 is still that gnarlingly hot supermodel you want to smash, no matter knowing how hard it is going to bite you back.
This was like a Top Gear episode! Epic content
Ameen brother, aameen
Well said.
Oh yes
Indeed.
This comment!
Gracias por el vídeo, hay muchisimo trabajo detrás, pero sobretodo me encanta lo bien que lo pasáis haciendo las pruebas y lo divertidos que son vuestros vídeos.
I'm old enough to remember the GS1150 ES... Great segment gents! Thoroughly enjoyed All of it!💯👏🤓
I can only imagine the Ducati dealership scene... 🤣
Probably one of the best episodes in the history of TH-cam! Congrats to everyone who made it.
Agreed...loved the flashback. It made me realize that maybe, just maybe my 2006 CBR1000RR isn't so bad after all these years. As Ari's said it best, "unadulterated". There is just something about that pure riding experience, power without all the gadgets that come on new bikes these days. It's like dumbing down the skills required to actually ride these beasts. I am sure they are great, but if I don't know what I am missing then I will just keep on my "classic" sportbikes...thank you. Maybe I am old school, but I prefer to keep my skills up and earn the ride rather than let technology take that work away.
This is my first time I glued my eyes for 24mins on a single Utube vid. Thanks
Just about to pull the trigger on a GSXR600 and absolutely LOVED the video- I know it's a bit dated but great job guys!!
This was by far the best motorcycle video that I’ve watched in recent memory. Excellent content guys. Loved every minute of it. Reminded me a lot of old Top Gear episodes. Please make more content like this!
Better go watch 44Teeth then.
I own a k5 gixxer race bike that I run regularly, I’ve been to this track plenty and even have a race there in august. What I can say for this comparison is that the track had a huge part in it. Having lots of horsepower on tap at Buttonwillow won’t get you very far. I can only go full throttle in a few areas and they aren’t really the key areas. I can usually hang with V4’s and R1M’s at that track. As a matter of fact I ran a full second faster on my 08 R6 than on my k5. At tracks like willow springs the k5 does well but can’t hold its own in the straights. I can brake late and enter corners as fast or faster than most modern bikes. I love my k5 but I can tell you how frustrating it is to out-ride your competition and have 1st in the bag only to end up with 2nd because you get smoked in the drag race to the finish line. I love the looks and sound of the Ducati but everyone I know that owns one spends more time messing with it then they do riding it. If you guys ever take that k5 out on track again try a 200/60 rear tire. The extra height of the 60 makes the bike turn so much nicer than the 55.
Greetings, just watched and enjoyed the video. Kudos to Evan, perhaps the most knowledgeable person commenting here. Having owned 2 ninjas , a zx7 from 1995 and zx6r 636 from 03, the particular racetrack used makes a huge difference. My home track is road America, and if you enjoy going really fast this is the track to be on. One lap is just a hair over 4 miles, and there is a total of 3 long straightaways. This would slightly probably favor the Ducati , with it's over 200 b.h.p. So, any SLIGHT advantage the gixer would have in cornering and braking, the Duc would compensate on the straights. But still, I was a bit surprised of the outcome, I wonder what would have happened if they would have thrown a 2010 zx10r in the mix. Thanks to all for sharing, and if you ride be safe. Cheers!!!!
Had a K6 and an '11 busa (w K7 gsxr tail kit and race tech gold suspension) and I commute only, I have a 200/60 on my Busa now and it makes the mid corner stuff insane for the big 1340 bike. I dont track but I do miss the $old K6 for its rowdy top end and ride/balance, but i dont miss the lack of torque in traffic lol. I loved switching between the Busa and the K6 commuting to appreciate what both have to offer. I ended up sticking w Busa w suspension work/quick throttle tube/regear w 200/60 and gsxr tail kit, ecu flashed w Brocks full system, transforms whole vibe of it.
K5/6 bikes were the lightest litre bikes from suzuki ever, last years of the catless no smog stuff + full Ti header from factory plus the thin/small frames. Id say a set of Carbon Wheels would really transform the K5. BMW benchmarked only the K5/6 for its 1st ever S1000rr - thats enough proof how good the bikes are.
@Zain staric Ducati Era Rossi would like to have a word with you... sometimes it is the tools
Hard to believe it won't hold its own on the straights,get a flash from Chris moore, 195mph ,I have stacks ,full exhaust, sprint filter,block offs,very fast plenty of top end I own a k6
Yep, do the same on, say, Monza, and the Suzuki wouldn't be anywhere to be seen.
There are also twisty circuits in MotoGP where MotoGP went almost the same speed as 250.
I used to watch Scott Russell race on tv and swore one day I was going to race superbikes. Thankfully reality hit before I swung a leg over and hurt myself. Riding these things a full chat is insane and to compete you have to basically risk big crashes. Watching the last couple of times you guys did timed runs on sport bikes reminds me of that. Great show though, that was a fun episode!
Love this duo, keep making good videos like this !
The K5 remains A legend.
When the 1199 Panigale was first released, I was so excited to test ride it, 5 minutes later I couldn't bare the heat, it was killing me. It took 3 sets of lights for my nuts to start roasting.. I returned the bike back to the dealer and told him it was ridiculously hot to ride. I remember that it felt like magic to jump back on my 07 Fireblade.
Roasted like good italian coffee
Amazing well done material! Please continue to review more old bikes, thrill/fun per $$
This style of video is so much fun as a viewer. I'd love to see more old vs new perspectives
I learned this back in 2006 when I sold my R1 and bought the K6 Gsxr1000. I instantly went faster with no mods!! Gixxer for life!
revzilla: "hey can we have a system check about your bike?"
ducati: "sure. whats the problem?"
revzilla: "oh nothing it just it got beaten by a 15 years old gsxr 1000"
ducati: 😧😦😮😯😱😱
*charters private jet from Italy*
Mommamia
I'm not big on old is better than new, but was really happy to see the gsxr that was purchased for 3k and had another 2-3k put into it give the Ducati a black eye.
😂😂😂😂😂🤣
I raced the K5 and loved it! I worked at a motorcycle shop a couple of years ago and rode all liter bikes of the year and NOTHING felt close.
I don’t know how I had the best bikes in my life. The K5 is a history Marker and i also had the 2008 CRF-450F which is known to be the monster of its class. I also raced the SV-650 when it came out in ‘99.
Life is good! Keep up the great work!
I have to keep coming back here every few months to cherish the legend of the K5 GSXR
I own a 2005 GXSR 1000 and I approve this message. Love my bike.
2017+ got me thinking tho🤣
I own a 2005 GSXR 1000 . It does the best wheelstands ..
Turns out that motor could take some pressure too. th-cam.com/video/oNcZPCfnfyw/w-d-xo.html
I’m 24 and have a K5 GSXR 1000. All of my friends are shocked at how insane the bike is.
I'm 64 and have a K5 GSXR 1000. All my friends are shocked at how insane I am🤪
@@howardhewitt1797 my father is 72 and he has RSV4 Aprillia xD.... And came back on bike at 60 xD
@@MoodSwingZX That's great, I'm in the UK just enjoying my riding, off to ride the NC 500 in Scotland in a couple of weeks over a thousand miles round trip. Say hello to you dad from me 😄
@@howardhewitt1797 I love it 👍
@Southern Fun There must still be a few about, keep your 👀 peeled. Best of luck! 🤞
What a great video. Really speaks to how wild things have gotten chasing that next 100th of a second!
i have ridden the 2005/2006 GSXR in 4-6hour races till 2016-2018, and it still performend very well. Mine got other camshafts and stuff and put out 182hp on the wheel, very impressive for such an old bike. Out of 58Teams our team got to rankings between 12-16 most of the time and no bike under the ranking of 9 was older than 2015. I think the most difference i noticed is when you turn high speed cornering around 180km/h to another, the newer bikes were faster in changing from left to right. if if havent crashed it so hard i think im still riding this bike :D
That's absolutely crazy. Hard to justify the Ducati's price when it's getting schooled by the GSX-R
The Ducati makes for better social media picture poses though. That's the important thing.....
I've been seeing a lot of folks jump from their Ducatis for higher performance rides. Today on the XSR forums I read about a guy that jumped off of his monster 12 for an xsr900 and it made my heart sing.
Looks.
Rider schooled. Not the bike.
@@daytonasayswhat9333 um no, they both did laps with both bikes. The bike was schooled. They did a ten minute recap on why.
If they did a superbike shootout, I will never doubt the results
most people just accepts it and go home, they on the other hand... do a research on why!
AWESOME!
I we think alike 😉 nice comment, and well said!
Love these kinds of vids from y’all!! Same with the dumb bile amd the long trip on the lil guys!!!
These older bikes still kick serious butt. Back in 2014 when I had an RC-51, I used to smoke friends in the twisties and then dominate the amateur sessions at the track. Even my (current) 99 CBR1100XX Blackbird will still keep up with the best of them today.
That was literally one of the very best compassion tests of any two things I have ever seen, including objectivity with as many attempts to reduce bias or subjectivity as possible. Boom --subscribed.
LOL
Hjb flikker
Long slow clap for the thermometer crouch measurement....very good. This should be a standard review technique!
Lol I was thinking that if you ride a bike, you know this is a legitimate test... We ride the track occasionally, but the road always.
So many gems in Barry Henning’s 2005 TH-cam video. The music, the shaky camera, the misspelling of “chasey”, and finally the unnecessarily counter leaning through a corner while thinking he looks cool. It’s all very 2005.
This was honestly such a good Video! Was not expecting this from the guys I buy my gear from