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- Yamaha R1 vs Suzuki GSXR 1000 - Knox Superbike Shootout 🔥 P.1 The road.
Though in recent decline, Superbikes are still the pinnacle of motorcycle advancement, performance, technology. They represent the biggest thrill in the motorcycling and are designed to do just one thing, go fast!
In this 2 part superbike shootout test, we put 2 of the most famous sportsbikes ever made head to head, on the road and on the track!
Harking back to 2001, the GSXR 1000 is legendary. Throughout its history, it’s won and lost championships, been plagiarised, battered and bruised and is currently facing extinction by the Eurocratic powers that be. But the GSXR in this test will endure, only facing death by thrashing or crashing! Most recently updated in 2017, our GSXR has a 200hp inline 4 motor with VVT, 200kg wet weight and sports an exhaust the size of a nuclear bomb.
Yamaha’s R1 is equally famous, the latest edition packs a 200hp wizz banging cross plane crank 4 cylinder. The modern R1 is a no compromise weapon and has experienced huge amounts of success in racing and in the showroom since its 2015 introduction. With sharp and compact looks, a sound more akin to a MotoGp bike and a top drawer electronics package, it’s a tough bike to beat.
Thanks for watching part one of the Knox Superbike shootout. In part 2, join us we turn the heat up, take a deep breath and twist the throttle till it won’t go any further at arguably the UK’s most gnarly track, Oulton Park!
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In this video, we quoted a Devitt Insurance price. These were based on the below.
*Devitt Insurance Quote is based on Mr Average.
Mr Average is: Based on a 40 year old married Bank Clerk, living in LA13. Kept in a Garage, held full bike license since 2000. Bike has Biketrac and a Datatool S4 C1 Red security. No accidents or claims. Comp cover, 3000 miles, 5 years protected NCD and just SDP use Please see www.devittinsurance.com/.
In this video, we quoted a Devitt Insurance price. These were based on the below.
*Devitt Insurance Quote is based on Mr Average. - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Which sports bike would you take? Let us know in the comments! Also, part 2 of our superbike test is now live here th-cam.com/video/opvI4eMiUEM/w-d-xo.html. 👍
R1
GSXr, it’s the most similar to superbikes of the early 2000s
R1 🤌
@@ashdivakaran9664 honda cbr is pretty close
GSX for the classic i4 sound
Awesome to be part of this project, both bikes look epic! I hope everyone enjoys the video, stay tuned for part 2... 👌
Dont they! Nothing like a proper superbike 😆
Yamaha had not been the fastest but in design in style,cornering,stability,refinement and pure engine is what its been success and loveable....
That’s a tough one. Two great, but very different bikes. I’d probably got for the Suzuki, purely for a bit more comfort and that ballistic motor. The R1 soundtrack is epic and looks menacing. I think the upgrades on the Suzuki will probably give it the edge on track. Look forward to part 2. Awesome work 👏
Thanks glad you enjoyed it! Part 2 incoming v soon! Aaron KNOX
thank you so much for this vid. you put a huge amount of effort in it that is clear to see, and lovely to see a comparison between two bikes that don't cost 25k... but two popular peoples favourites. great job to all involved. can't wait for part two
Thanks Doug, appreciate the kind words! Part 2 coming v soon. Aaron KNOX
I really love that SUZUKI 💪♥️👍gsxrr
Just found this channel after getting back into motorcycle riding…I’m guessing you make protective gear? I’d buy your stuff just because of this content and your presentation! Well crafted video! Even though you guys took a “pillion seat” in this, you come off as very genuine gents. I’m pretty judgemental and don’t like most people😇, including many motorcycle personalities🤷🏼♂️, but I get the impression I could grab a beer with you guys and have a hoot! I appreciate the narration as well. A new subscriber for sure and a future customer (once I wear out all the gear I already bought last month LOL😅) ,now heading over to your website to see what the hell you guys even do besides making great videos
Many thanks for your kind feedback, really appreciate it! Yes we make motorcycle protective equipment, all of which is listed in the description. Our TH-cam channel is important to Knox and one of the eays we try to express ourselves as avid riders and makers of riding equipment. Thanks for subscribing and hope you find some knox products you like! Aaron Knox
Really excellent video, thanks. Like the different take on the road test and the reality that there aren’t any bad modern bike. Just chose the one that you desire the most! 💪🏻👍🏻
i love the R1 in yellow 😍
Both beautiful. I really love all the 4 SS 1000 Japanese bikes. In my opinion you can't go wrong with any of them. They are powerful machines, beautiful to look at, fun to ride and above all .. RELIABLE!
Gixxer for bang for your buck. R1 for the looks.
In general, very good and outstanding video!
Very good depth!
Keep up the fantastic work guys!
Many thanks! 😀
Great video! Can't wait for the track part.
Thanks Carlos!! Aaron Knox
What a Video ! You put that...ache in the video that bikers go through on seeing a King lose his crown due to the recent "developments" in the industry. A brilliant comparo between 2 Monsters who will always be in their Prime, no matter how the industry changes, or who comes to Challenge them.
Cross-plane and K5.
Always relevant.
Fantastic review! Love both of them bikes, its hard to go wrong with any of them. Class 👏
Any thanks Matthew. Bith are great once modified. Gsxr is a death trap as standard. 😀 Aaron Knox
I wish more reviewers made bike reviews like you guys, it’s so friendly from a “normal” person’s perspective. Kudos to you and your honest opinions. Loved every bit of it!
The GSX series are crazy
Reliable for sure Suzuki Gsxr1000
Always a treat when you guys upload, narration and cinematography is always on point! Such an interesting head to head too
Thanks a lot really appreciate it!! 🙏
That’s what I said! This is the first time I’ve come across this channel and I’m very impressed. And I’m never impressed LOL
Loved the video, I had a 2018 gsxr1000 for a year before someone turned out in front of me and that was it for that bike. I was genuinely shocked to hear about the suspension woes on the gsxr, when I had mine I pushed it HARD on the road, looking at it now I’m glad nothing bad happened to me….it’s just so weird because I never once experienced those problems and as I said I rode it hard.
I totally agree with your opinion on the engine, it is an absolute animal.
Thanks! Clearly not everyone has the issue, but on track and especially the tracks we have here in the UK, the set up is not strong enough. The revised system has solved it! Aaron KNOX
You just can't beat Gixxer design and decal looks. Suzuki for the win
Thank for this shootout and whoever made the music to go with the sweeping vistas deserves a medal.
Another fabulous video... thanks
Thanks for the information on these machines.
I’ll take the Suzuki GSXR 1000 every time.
Idem è la numero 1 sempre
🖕🖕 I will always take r1
💪😎
Gimme both 😎
Yes SIR I am totally with u on that one, F a Hayabusa and ZX-14 any day because I am a GSXR MAN 👨 😀 😉 😎 😄 👍🏽
What a great video!! So engaging, I loved it. Personally I'd go for a Ducati V4s on pirelli super corsa tires, but of the two on offer in this video I'd go for the R1. Mostly because I had a gsxr750 already 🤷🏾♂️
Gsxr 1000 Ghost Rider!!!
There’s a shop in Marietta GA that told me that the gsxr is the best bike money can buy. I guess he wasn’t lying.
Great oldschool review!
Gsx r is phenomenal bike on the road
Good video!
A correction: The steering damper in the stock GSXR is rightly a bit underdamped.
However, The stock front forks/rear shock are far far superior Twin tube style solid piston architecture units but with softer spring rates for the street. (Especially the rear shock)
This is the same architecture as Ohlins TTx GP shock / Ohlins NPX used in FGR300 fork
The Nitron NTR3 race pro is an inferior 'De Carbon' architecture shock but with probably stiffer springs.
Same goes with the TVT PRO fork cartridge. It's an open style 25mm piston cartridge kit with probably stiffer springs
The Nitron units can provide more damping based on how they are shimmed but cannot match the stock units in small bump absorption
Get the stock Showa to a quality suspension shop who can replace the springs and adjust the shims. These things won WSBK titles.
Thanks glad you liked the video!
Re the suspension components, totally incorrect. The showa stuff on the GSXR1000r isn't great and is not capable to manage the power of the bike. It had already been set up by one of the leading technicians in the UK when we had the crash.
WSBK titles may have been won on factory Showa suspension, but don't get that confused with budget stock suspension with Showa brand label on.
End of the day, if the stock showa suspension was any good, the bike would be stable and it isn't... further, if it was good, most track day riders and racers alike wouldn't swap it out for proper race suspension like the Nitron stuff, but everyone does.
Thanks, Aaron KNOX
Great cinematics and great narrative.
What a fantastic video guys, really well done. I recognized all of the places in the video, they are some of my favorite riding spots, Hartside Pass, St. John's in the Vale, Bassenthwaithe etc. it's actually really weird to watch haha.
Well done, lovely machines.
Haha! Yes lucky to live here! Aaron KNOX
@@KnoxArmour Likewise, hope to see you out there, regards Ed.
Gixxer for me, good video guys.
Epic review!! Nicely done
Glad you enjoyed it!
Love your work brother! Good to see your success building 👌👍
Many thanks Andre! Aaron Knox
This channel is heavily underrated
Thanks for the video albeit incomplete.
Anyway.... easy to say have the Suzuki GSXR any day of the week 👍👍👍
Footnote added 16/10/2022
Especially when the famous Suzuki Gixxer has just won the Motogp here in Australia 🇦🇺 👍
Beautifully shot
Id take the Gsxr over the R1 for many reasons, I do love the r1 though, the engine, the design. Its beautiful. But imma have to go with the Gsxr
What are your reasons that you would go with GSXR???
@@MrWolf2212 any reason you can think of.💯
@@MrWolf2212 because suzuki has always been better than yamaha when it comes to street bikes.
@@michealortiz3350 How's that?
@@user-tm9ho3bm4v Yamaha supersports are track tryhards
My name is Geoff and I also have that gixxer. Nice video production chaps - well done. Look forward to the next.
Thanks Geoff, wonder how many "Geoff's" own GSXR's 😂. Aaron KNOX
dope production!
Thanks 💯
I have the 2018 gsxr 1000r. I did find it a bit unstable until tightening up the suspension. It still hits bumps better than my car. I love it as much as I did the day I bought it
Great job guys!
Thanks Mick!
The cinematics and edits in this video was just amazing , id defo go for r1 but i wouldn’t mind a 2009 gsxr 1000 as they were rockets back then
Thanks Lewis 👍
I had a 09 gsxr1000, nice bike but my 08 zx10r is hands down faster
Any chance of seeing an in-depth video of the Starline dash on the GSXR? Been thinking about replacing my dash but haven't seen enough videos to drop for the buy.
A compare & contrast between Starline & OEM dash is hard to find.
Well tbh, we haven't fully got our head around it yet tbh. Plus we've had issues with the indicators since we installed it. The main benefit is for track work as it gives full data logging. Thanks Aaron Knox
@@KnoxArmour Come on then, I just need an excuse to buy me one :^)
Wow! The production quality of this video is top notch, Its like watching a movie!
Thanks! Super appreciate it! 😃 Aaron KNOX
How much was the brake upgrade on the R1? Was it done in house?
keep videos coming like this
Thanks! Will try! Aaron KNOX
leaving a comment for just the visual and audio pleasure this video provided me I mean the work capturing exhaust note and mixing it properly in video wow
Thanks Sumeet!
R1 all day EERRDDAAYY❗️😈
Very cinematic, also these bike manufacturers are my top favorites.
Thanks, glad you think so! Great bikes. Aaron KNOX
Where did you find that awesome dash? Would love to get one for my gsxr
Loads of places sell them, they’re well over a grand though 😂
GSX-R 🔥
Did I hear wrong or is there a hint of “fully stock GSXR is very dangerous, nearly fatal” ?
Didn't hear it wrong... the stock GSXR1000 is a dangerous bike and needs modification to make it safe. Aaron KNOX
I liked the video lads, good shit. Where's this filmed?
Thanks! Its all in the Lake District, England. Thanks, Aaron KNOX
Nothing beats the looks of the Gixxer nor the comfort if you are a grown up.
I had a ZX-10R and then a GSX-R 1000 a few years back. To me the ZX-10R was just a untamed beast where as the GSX-R was so smooth and much easier to ride fast. Miss owning a street bike. Live in AZ now and great weather but drivers are crazy.
Awesome video.. where was it filmed
Thanks Neil! All in the Lake District, its a nice place to be. Aaron
What a wonderful review....simply a visual delight! Thank you for covering the two legends with such nuance. 🤍
Glad you enjoyed it!
What helmet is that? Black with red backside? I want
Hi, its a bell helmet. But not sure its available anymore. Thanks, Aaron KNOX
My dream bike gixxer😭😭😭
Both bikes are lovely.
I've owned Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki, Ducati and, ahem, HD motorcycles in my 5 decades of riding.
I've never, ever, had any 'issues' with either my Suzuki or Kawasaki motorbikes and I simply cannot say that for the others. I've never owned a Yamaha, aside from a snare drum...
At this point in life, I'll take the relative plushness and comfort of the Gixxer even though the aesthetics on the R1 are infinitely better...thanks!
Nice!
the GSX-R..... The bike has been one of closest thing to my heart
Thanks for the vid. I own a GSXR-1000R but I feel like I never give it as much as it needs to perform. A shame. Still a really nice and comfy bike.
very cool video dudes :D
Many thanks!
R1 all day , now on my 6th 👍 only GSXR I’d have is the k5 k6 👍 had 3 and loved them things 👍👍🏍
The legendary Kenny Roberts livery, is spectacular looking, even on such drastically different aesthetics
Awesome comparison. Just what I need when I’m trying to decide between the two.
I test road the R1 and didn’t really like it, it got too hot for Australia and was only fun when I got it on the open road.
I need to ride the GSXr sometime.
I’m hoping to get something similar to my ZX14r (ZZR1400) but 50 kg lighter
Go Hayabusa, +2 teeth out back BUT - swap rear tire over to a taller than stock 200/60 Ducati V4 tire and the thing will fall on its side like a 1k! Did it to mine. I also have the Greggscustoms Gsxr K7 tail kit on her and small front fender from a 600?. Theres your roomy sportbike that can handle and isnt fugly anymore. 4-1 exhaust and lithium battery its near 40lbs lighter than stock.
Thanks glad it was helpful. Gsxr is more comfortable definitely and some higher clip ons would improve again. Thanks Aaron Knox
@@05EVORS Very choice mods for the mighty 'busa!!
I miss my first gen 'busa...such a great bike. The only bike I've ever owned where I left it stone stock...stealthy speed is awesome...obviously.
@@elgar6743 why is it better than the Gen2
@@KnoxArmour Thanks. Keen to watch part 2.
Also, does the Showa BFF from the 1000r require upgrading too? I heard they’re a good setup
Loving the yellow wrap 👌
Lovely right hander there knee and elbow down 👍
Semi race semi road I'm running, send it and not over the barrier 😂👍
Looks great doesnt it?! Its actually a limited edition Kenny Roberts scheme from 2016. Thanks, Aaron KNOX
@@KnoxArmour ahh very nice yeah looks mean in that yellow, I have the 19 plate R1 in blue then I saw yours and thought damn wouldn't mind that wrap haha , ride safe ✌️
Problem with gearbox on mine at moment I'm hitting netreal or just completely missing it 1st straight to 2nd or I'm stuck in neutral, take it garage after work 👍
I would pick the GIXXY but that exhaust though.
Yoshimura
I was wondering about the Suzuki suspension. Is it only that bad when pushed hard on the track or is the stock suspension already bad in faster street riding ? And is this year specific or in general ?
I think the GSXR 1000 has a general stability issue. Not so bad when you are riding slowly on the road, but as soon as you start to open the throttle and push it more, it is not good. Safest option would be to install a new rear shock and a proper steering damper. I personally wouldnt own one of these bikes without doing that upgrade. Thanks, Aaron KNOX
@@KnoxArmour That's not cool, especially when buying a used bike this adds up in price if you want decent bike.
Any experience with revalving the original shock and forks ?
@@wernerxldata well, i think you'd get a good experience with the forks... in the end all of the aftermarket stuff for the forks are a full cartridge kit. Re the shock, I am not sure it is possible to revalve... probably just a better job to get a proper shock in it... and importantly a proper steering damper. :)
Problem is, it is such a wild motor that it needs strong components to match it. Not so much of a problem with the GSXR 750 because the power is not there, but with the 1000, it is quite wild.
@@KnoxArmour Thanks for the info !!
By the way, the GSXR 1000R seems to have different suspension, is it better there or still same problem ? The single R version seems to have a shock where you can't adjust ride height/sag, that could probably lead to geometry issues and violent behaviour...
Have you ridden the standard model? The suspension on that has been good enough on the older years.
Haven't ridden the older model, but in fairness, I own the k8 GSXR 750 and have done most of the same upgrades on that to improve performance. Think the issue is that a monster 1000cc engine doesnt work well with budget suspension components. Thanks, Aaron KNOX
I bought a new GSXR1100 in 1986. Been a big fan ever since.
thats great you guys have your own bikes and no press bikes, value arrives from personal use over the long haul not by paid manufacturers, thats what i do with my bikes i own and ride
Best Find of 2023 ! Let's get these gentlemen to 100k 🔥
Many thanks! Aaron KNOX
Which roads are these, they look awesome!
All in the Lake District where we are located. Thanks !
suzuKING,, 😀😀👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
14:18 I assume you refitted the stock 2nd muffler to the R1 before weighing?
Yes, we just weighed as it was. Thanks, Aaron KNOX
I want to know where this was filmed tbh
How much you want for the wrecked bike
E muito bonita a cor da Suzuki e diferenciada!
Ive had two GSXR 1000s. an K5 chassis and now my 2017. 🥰
Stick a full system on the gsxr , then take it too msg racing , they total transform the bike , smoother and they improve tc and quickshifter , and more bhp . 👍
GSXR as a all round all day long magic motorcycle
We need a comparison between R1 vs cbr 1000r
Lake District is so friigin beauuuutiful...if i had the chance I'd definitely build a tiny house on top of the hill and just sit there and enjoy the view with a cup of coffee in my hand....😍😍😍😍😍😍🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
Yes, thats the dream!! Aaron KNOX
Anyone else find it bizarre that the comments on most review videos these days are just praising the video and creators rather than talking about the video's subject matter? Makes me wonder if the majority of commenters are just bots and the dead internet theory is true. Anyways, the R1 wins just because of its sound ❤️
Imagine caring
Well, in this particular case I can’t chime in with anything worthy because I’m not the biggest superbike guy, but man the editing and quality of the videos Knox produce is outstanding - and I can assure you I’m no bot 😂
LoL, shhhhh.... you talk to loud. Ccp no like hahaha ha 🥸
I think it’s because it’s an agreeable and factual presentation without drama, so the outstanding facet is the content quality and not subject matter.
I thought that was just me, nice to know I'm not the only one noticing this comment section phenomenon
I had a Tank Slapper on a dual carriageway, at 125 riding my SV100 back in 2008! Luckily, I just hit the tarmac and nothing else! Left Bikes alone for 8 years after that! Bought a FZR600 off a neighbour, rode it on the same Dual Carriageway as my accident and promptly crapped myself! Sold it immediately and just ride Vespa's now! Stay safe kids!
Gsxr ❤️
When part 2 will come...?
Its available now, th-cam.com/video/opvI4eMiUEM/w-d-xo.html. Thanks :)
I think this is extremely interesting from a value perspective because if you need to put all this money into these bikes in order to "bring them up to spec" (so to speak), how much less expensive are these bikes compared to say, a Panigale or a s1000rr in reality?
I have lived my life only with Japanese bikes from sports, naked to adventure bikes, Japanese bikes are so beautiful and awesome performance and gives us good comfort and confidence.
Well, if you ask me to choose a beast from these 2 it's damn difficult to answer that but going in deep and talking about my personal taste I would love to go with GSXR-1000R ( R version especially it has few more electronics and better suspensions), In terms of looks, again I love both the bikes but GSXR-1000 looks next level for me❤ In short I will go with the Suzuki with a heavy heart ( I have much love for the R1, I can leave 10R and S1000RR for R1)
At 9:54.... how fast was that bicycle going to sound like that???
🤣🤣
Nitron shocks and forks are literally a work of art the finish on them 🥵🥵
And not to mention how well they work
I’m surprised to learn about the stock GSX-R suspension. These are supposedly the up-spec Showa fork and shock, certainly not budget. Equally surprised about the steering damper. I have a K9 with a similar unit and it’s excellent, I’ve experienced it do its job. Good to hear your experience though, much appreciated.
I would say someone’s run out of talent on that gsxr and are blaming it the bike. I personally own a 2021 gsxr1000r 100th anniversary edition and I’ve had no bad situations with head shake or it wanting to throw me off. I ride it hard on the uk roads which aren’t the smoothest. I’ve had it up to 180mph and it feels so planted it’s unreal. I’ve had the stock suspension dialed in by a professional to suit my weight ect. I really couldn’t be happier
Yes theyre supposed to be but theyre still v budget components. That steering damper is the same as on my 14 yr old 750. The new 1000 is a totally different bike tbh, different engine, frame geometry etc and is not stable when ridden hard. Thanks Aaron Knox
@@richardsmith7940 lots of owner feedback saying the same, its unstable and scary. Tbf, on the road you cant ride it that hard, but on track, its unstable as soon as you start going quick. Geoff was an international racer back in the day so knows how to ride a bike... Thanks Aaron Knox
@@KnoxArmour well I don’t ride mine on track so I don’t have an opinion on how it would handle in that situation but for the road with TC on setting 3 I can absolutely spank the arse off the bike out of corners and on the straights without a hint of stability issues.
Maybe the suspension upgrades would be a waste of money on a bike only used on the road but worth there weight in gold on the track where the rider is trying to shave seconds off there lap times
@@richardsmith7940 thats good. We'd at least recommend a proper steering damper. The stock one doesnt have any strength to correct an oscillation and theyre not too expensive for at least a piece of mind. Other than the stability issue, its a great bike... end of the day weve got 3 GSXR'S now 😄Safe riding. Aaron Knox
gsx all the way... ive seen pro racer dive on that monster
Please say something about how hot engines are, after a long summer ride.
I saw a lot of people complain about R1 engine, that is so hot in summer, and it’s nearly impossible to ride because of engine heat.
Actually, we didn't have problems with either bike in this test on the road or track which is probably why we didn't mention it. Aaron KNOX
@@KnoxArmour This is great news! Thank you.
Not greedy or picky! I’d take either bike! I jus bought an ole 2001 R1 (6,100 miles mint condition) & my buddy has a 2005 Hayabusa 1300! These bikes are mad fast! 200-300 horsepower is mind boggling for 450-500 lbs bikes! Lol!!!!!
I went years without a bike while my kids were young! Feels great to be back in da saddle eating fiddle faddle 🤠😉😂
Great for you to get back on a bike! Ride safe! Aaron KNOX