How Fuel Tuning Works - Unleash Your Motorcycle's Performance - ECU Programming - NOT Carburetor

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  • Your motorcycle's performance has been intentionally restricted by the manufacturer! Guest host Mike Spurgin from ‪@TACOMOTOCO‬ introduces the mods you'll need to tune and calibrate your motorcycle's fuel system to unleash its true performance and potential. Fuel system modifications that tune or even reprogram your bike's performance maps can provide smoother power and better engine reliability by optimizing the air fuel mixture across the entire RPM range. The objective - a stoichiometric fuel and air mixture that burns all fuel with no excess air.
    Learn even more @ MOTOTREK.net
    Produced by Tim Tyler TimTyler.com
    Mike Spurgin @TACOMOTOCO tacomoto.co/
    Special thanks to @rtwpaul for letting us ride his new bike!
    00:00 Scenic Intro
    00:30 Basics of Motorcycle Performance Compromises
    01:04 Understanding the Motorcycle Carburetor
    02:10 Understanding Motorcycle Fuel Injection
    03:47 Fuel Tuners
    04:25 Reflash Motorcycle ECU
    05:20 Replace OEM ECU with Aftermarket ECU
    06:40 ECU Mapping
    07:15 Custom ECU Pros and Cons
    08:00 Check your TPS spec
    08:19 Wrap-Up
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    #fuel #flash #mapping #tacomoto #tim.tyler.cine #bmwmotorrad #west38moto #findMOTOTREK
    there is a surprising amount of power trapped in your adventure motorcycle your bike's potential has been intentionally restricted by the manufacturer fortunately using modern electronics we can easily transform the way your machine performs. welcome to MOTOTREK. my name is Mike Spurgin. your motorcycle is the result of the compromise and negotiations between three players in the production pipeline the Engineering department wanted to deliver a motorcycle that was amazing exciting fun race-ready. in Sales and Marketing they were after a motorcycle that was safe reliable something sensible had broad appeal and then the Regulatory Agency they needed to have a motorcycle delivered that was quiet and efficient. the indication is that someday they will give us 300 miles to the gallon. So we've got three cooks in the kitchen that are baking up a bland moto-casserole but luckily we don't have to settle on this mediocre performance we've got some magic black boxes that will boost the performance of any adventure motorcycle so to understand this new technology let's take a look back at the humble carburetor

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  • @natalyakeane
    @natalyakeane 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    That was a bit clickbaity. Using RTWPaul's bike as b-roll and thumbnail.

    • @MOTOTREK
      @MOTOTREK  3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Mike Spurgin is riding rtwPaul's bike in those shots, Natalya.

    • @MOTOTREK
      @MOTOTREK  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      mototrek.net/2021/01/14/mike-spurgin-stunt-rider/

    • @TACOMOTOCO
      @TACOMOTOCO 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      True enough @mototrek, I was playing the role of stunt rider on Paul’s bike for those shots as well as setting it up with some of the tuning components mentioned in this video 😎

  • @jasonnaubur8759
    @jasonnaubur8759 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I get the feeling that Mike could deep dive into a lot of this, but still managed to keep it quick and understandable for everyone. That's a very impressive skill to have. When I meet people in life like that I listen, as they are usually the masters of their craft. Well done.

    • @MOTOTREK
      @MOTOTREK  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      100%, Jason.

  • @ageless1003
    @ageless1003 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Loved it, especially the end animation.

  • @rodintoulouse3054
    @rodintoulouse3054 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi. Just stumbled into your channel. Fantastic content with really high quality. Started tonight watching from the the first video over 3 years ago. About to get an adventure bike and this is my new bible.

  • @shibleekhan
    @shibleekhan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks for sharing.. brings a lot of insight on what's going inside.. 🙏

  • @EZ_shop
    @EZ_shop 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    That was a great video.

  • @peterwells5424
    @peterwells5424 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks! Very well explained.

  • @davidcarr5718
    @davidcarr5718 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Excellent content. Thank You.

  • @SharetheJourneyUSA
    @SharetheJourneyUSA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great content. I really enjoy the subjects you guys address. Have you ever done a tutorial for off-road/adventure riding 2-up? Great subject no one addresses. My wife and I 2-up a lot and it has its own challenges. Thanks for your time and keep it up!

  • @stefanklaver87
    @stefanklaver87 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very informative Tim, top video!

    • @MOTOTREK
      @MOTOTREK  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Glad you liked it, Stefan!

  • @rtwpaul
    @rtwpaul 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    good stuff Mike

  • @BeSatori
    @BeSatori 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That was a really good video.

  • @ryanmoore686
    @ryanmoore686 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I just installed my rapid bike evo on mine. Mine is more to help smooth the bike, especially with elevation changes.

  • @SileX406coup
    @SileX406coup 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    A very very well and detailed explanation, especially for the technically not adapted viewers!
    #trustmeimanautomotiveengineer
    Stay healthy guys and greetings from Germany 😉🤙🇩🇪

  • @tinchodbaires1996
    @tinchodbaires1996 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish you can trip across Argentina (ruta 40) soon. Greetings.

  • @carls.2071
    @carls.2071 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good stuff. Expect an email asking what I can do to give my bike a unique personality.

  • @JohnDoe-fk6id
    @JohnDoe-fk6id 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You do NOT want to tune to Stoich for power or economy. Stoich is only for emissions reasons. If you want power, you tune rich (~12.5 or 13.5:1). If you want efficiency, you tune lean of peak (15.5+:1, as far as you can, before power drops off more than fuel consumption, all the way up to around 22:1, where the combustion starts to fail, entirely). Running THAT lean does NOT melt anything. In fact, the engine runs hottest at stoich, which is not good, at WOT.

    • @HPRaceDevelopment
      @HPRaceDevelopment 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pretty accurate. except on these types of engines misfires occur around 16.5:1. To get 18:1-22:1 to run would require more induced inlet turbulence, better quench area (in trade for valve area) and smaller inlet tracts. Economy is a toss up - as we mostly want minimal RPM - as it's number one driver for mileage. So often making more power with more fuel rather than too lean - but at low rpm yields best economy

    • @ginoasci2876
      @ginoasci2876 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Is it possible that the factory mapping could develop a glitch on a NEW bike with only 1900 miles, and cause the engine to knock ?
      Could mapping cause knocking in any way?

  • @satishvasane6812
    @satishvasane6812 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very understandable English, thanks from India. Is Cassie with you?

  • @scottc3
    @scottc3 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Unfortunately Power Commander do not offer anything for the R1250 GSA, and currently have no plans to do so. Unfortunately here in the UK so many re-map places are a rip-off so am struggling to know how best to get my bike tuned for the full (de-cat) system and end can.

  • @nickishungry
    @nickishungry 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You mention at 4:22 that you can flash the ECU to accommodate the mods you've made to your intake or exhaust. I thought we were focusing on correcting the problem of bikes being underfueled by design, not correcting fueling after mods. Did you digress or is it supposed to be a given that you need to modify your intake / exhaust to get any gains from any of these solutions? Could you clarify for us novices?

  • @ForeignLifestylestory
    @ForeignLifestylestory 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good day.. I just bought a falcon 400 cc.. there's a dead spot in the throttle...right after idle...can you suggest a fix for this

  • @ginoasci2876
    @ginoasci2876 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is it possible that the factory mapping could develop a glitch on a NEW bike with only 1900 miles, and cause the engine to knock ?
    Is it possible for the mapping to become slightly corrupt or would it right work or not work ?
    Could mapping cause knocking in any way?

  • @paul91124
    @paul91124 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Question, My scooter suddenly stop,then check fuse battery starter's fine,but won't crank .Is this ECU problem?

  • @randygravel2057
    @randygravel2057 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Is there one that will slow my bike down?

    • @Francois_Dupont
      @Francois_Dupont 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      deflate your tires... hahaha
      you can change your sprockets with another ratio. it will lower the top speed, but add more torque.

    • @SileX406coup
      @SileX406coup 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sure. These ECUs are capable to do that too, depending on the mapping.
      There is for example the possibility to change the mapping of the throttle body, resulting the butterfly valve to open just up to 50% while turning the throttle into full lock position.

  • @robpinter5431
    @robpinter5431 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hmmm interesting video with more interesting comments, back in the 1997 EFI was introduced on the BMW R1100GS range, we had a brand new one in the workshop, and started bagging out the EFI issues it would have and how unreliable it would be.....well I bought a new R1100 GS in 1998, and had done 350,000km, it was common that the hall sensor on the timing plate would fail at 150,000km, and that's about it for EFI components that would fail, apart from a injector clean at 200,000km and replaced the throttle bodies as they had worn out...I did come across a rider with a R1150 GS that was running rough as he had fallen off the bike and moved the TPS with his boot, we could have reset the TPS if we had a volt meter. Now for Carburettors....diaphragms tear, floats become porous, jets clog up, but are easily fixed on the side of the track or in the middle of nowhere if you carry the odd small parts. New bikes you need a magic black box to adjust the mixture, old carbie you need jets or just a simple change in the needle position.

    • @MOTOTREK
      @MOTOTREK  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have EFI on my 91 K75, Rob, and it's still going strong after 190,000 miles. Of course I had to change out the rubber bits in the fuel system. Hall sensor is still good. I've adjusted it to experiment with the timing. - Tim

  • @inurzone
    @inurzone 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    LOOKS LIKE YOU COULD ENJOY A NEATO TOOL KIT... 😉👌🏼

  • @TankToChest
    @TankToChest 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yo I almost never stand even on tough terrains is that weird?

  • @MarlonVanderLinde
    @MarlonVanderLinde 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So... F.I does not automatically compensate for modifications as dealerships say? "Fit the pipe, the FI will compensate".

    • @MOTOTREK
      @MOTOTREK  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Depends on the bike, Marlon, and if the bike's ECU can compensate enough for the pipe you fitted.

  • @mohammedhashim187
    @mohammedhashim187 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    انت تقدم محتوى رائع ..فضلا اسمح ليوتيوب بترجمة مقاطعك الى اللغة العربية

  • @fernandourrutia2566
    @fernandourrutia2566 2 ปีที่แล้ว

  • @Crazy-Chicken-Media
    @Crazy-Chicken-Media 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    *Cries in manufacturer warranty*

    • @X85283
      @X85283 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Laughs in Magnusson-Moss Act

    • @Crazy-Chicken-Media
      @Crazy-Chicken-Media 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@X85283 The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, passed by Congress in 1975, is the federal law that governs consumer product warranties . The Act requires manufacturers and sellers of consumer products to provide consumers with clear and detailed information about warranty coverage.
      and Triumph will void my shit so fast.

  • @MrEmanuelFerreira
    @MrEmanuelFerreira 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Here is a challenge:
    Honda Africa twin 1100 Adv Sports ES:
    Make a video on how to always have the riding mode as you left it.
    ABS Switchable off in any ridding mode.
    TC and AW always off.

  • @Elskins
    @Elskins 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At 8:53 did he say optimal AFR is 14.7? That’s lean and what they come from the factory these days. I bet he meant 13.2.

    • @cedricboivin9422
      @cedricboivin9422 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      14.7 is what the stoichiometric say. In real life, not all the fuel is burn so that is why we need more. However, every engine has is own sweet spot because no engine burn fuel exactly the same way.

    • @Elskins
      @Elskins 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cedricboivin9422 I'm after AFR 13.2 :)

    • @cedricboivin9422
      @cedricboivin9422 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Personnaly I’ve never messed with efi so I may like even more
      Richer is better 😂😂😂

    • @satishvasane6812
      @satishvasane6812 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cedricboivin9422 that's true

  • @user-zh1vj6ci8r
    @user-zh1vj6ci8r 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ukraine kastum BMW 1956

  • @brandenhellman4381
    @brandenhellman4381 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    FIRST. YAY

  • @horatio8764
    @horatio8764 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yeah yeah, really. Electronic parts never play up ??
    Low down , off idle smoothness can't beat a carb.
    Power , fuel economy can't beat EFI

    • @HPRaceDevelopment
      @HPRaceDevelopment 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      maybe you need a little more tuning - most people properly tuned will find opposite

  • @PadreAlan67
    @PadreAlan67 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Not a bad article, but maybe not a good fit for this channel. I come here for riding skills.

    • @MOTOTREK
      @MOTOTREK  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      We know, Alan. Don't worry. Plenty more riding skills come up soon.

    • @revoltmachine5467
      @revoltmachine5467 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      it isn’t all about you Alan...

  • @dwightbernheimer331
    @dwightbernheimer331 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Most people that ride these so-called Adventure bikes have way more power than they can already handle to begin with we got enough dummies out there please don't make anymore LOL

  • @Francois_Dupont
    @Francois_Dupont 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i got a Honda, and i would NEVER change the ECU on it nor reprogram it.

  • @cedricboivin9422
    @cedricboivin9422 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude if you run your bike at 14.7 to 1, you won’t go far

  • @ashwinprakas606
    @ashwinprakas606 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Carburetors flawed due to being mechanically complex? WTF! :D

  • @adisyamadasa4238
    @adisyamadasa4238 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Please don't tell me that carburetor is less reliable than all those electronics and sensors...pffff

    • @EugeneYunak
      @EugeneYunak 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      but it is, by a large margin. i regularly have to clean and rejet my dirt bikes, and only rarely do i see damaged tps or air sensors. now, of course the carb is also infinitely more repairable, including quick fixes in the bush to get back home.