Zelda Devs Reveal VERY INTERESTING Details About Echoes Of Wisdom...
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ก.ย. 2024
- In a new entry for the Nintendo Ask The Developer series we got to hear a lot from Zelda series producer Eiji Aonuma, Nintendo EPD, and Grezzo on the development of the Legend of Zelda: Echoes of Wisdom.
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Korok Forest at night - Breath of the Wild
Wise Owl - Link's Awakening
Gate of Time - Skyward Sword
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Note: The final segment of the video was something I forgot to add, I was using a figure of speech as a joke.
Ryan (Midori) posted on X: “Please note that there will be no mention of the Nintendo Switch successor during any of the presentations throughout this week and the coming week.”
I was waiting for him to say something regarding given he initially suggested September was the time. Sounds like we are close though.
Sounds like you can trust him about as far as you can throw him.
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October now
This game is way better than I thought it would be. This is the traditional Zelda formula we all wanted with a twist, it’s very damn good. I feel like a lot of the fans will love this game, and playing as Zelda feels so natural it’s like it’s already been done that’s how good it is (don’t count the CDI games)
If I'm being honest I'm concerned about the direction the Zelda Team is going. Freedom is all well and good for just messing around in a sandbox, but if there's too much freedom it becomes a serious detriment to the rest of the experience. I don't want EOW to fall into the same trap that TOTK did and introduce so many mechanics that they inevitably trivialize all puzzle solving and exploration. Even if a puzzle has multiple ways to be solved if the same general strategies solve every puzzle then puzzles cease to become engaging, and instead become tedious and boring. I'm worried the Zelda team is going overboard on this idea of player freedom instead of focusing on what i think made BOTW such a smash hit, and that was the amazing sense of Exploration and discovery.
Na they are not over do it. Not even close.
Read this reply at your discretion… I won’t spoil anything.
This game is more in the vein of traditional Zelda, and not as open like BotW/TotK. It’s a good blend of of both old and new Zelda formula
@@drumjosh1987 yup echoes of wisdom is a blend between new and old. Theres tradional zelda dunegeons and a linear story.
i’ll be honest once you get the water block echo the puzzles/platforming gets very trivial
@@CFronTV how far are you, when you get into some of the later dungeons, the puzzles aren’t so trivial
Niether Twilight Princess HD or Ocarina of Time 3D are remakes.
Hopefully people are smart enough to know this just by looking at them. Just like you said, the way we companies used to describe these games isn't really applicable to the way we do today.
Oot and mmj 3d areabsolutely remakes what are you talking about??? They remade the game visuals specifically for the 3DS, everything looks so much better versus Twilight princess it looks the same
@@alexthebluehermit They're using the same code, engine & assets, just upsaling & improving geometry. That's a REMASTER. Even Nintendo called OoT a remaster. I don't know how you can look at a very obvious N64 game being ported to 3DS & still looking exactly like that same N64 game, only with stable FPS & sharper textures, and call that a Remake.
It's not a new engine, it's not new art, it's not new assets... Have you seen what real remakes look like? Crazy N'Sane Trilogy, Resident Evil 4, Final Fantasy 7, Dead Space, etc?
OoT is more in line with Xenoblade Chronicles DE (only Xenoblade DE looks way better than OoT 3D) & Luigi's Mansion HD.
OOT and MM 3D are great remasters. Like Xenoblade Chronicles DE.
@AndresRestart Exactly - Remasters. Though I highly disagree about Majora's Mask being a great Remaster. They tweaked so many things & ruined a lot of it.
@@corey2232 They are remakes. The game isn't reusing the same code nor engine, that's was a deliberated mistranslation someone made on the internet. Not to mention that the assets were remade. If you see the assets from both games and tell me with a straight face that they were just ported and just "improved geometry", you either haven't really seen them, you don't know how 3D modelling works or you are just trolling.
And I'm inclined to think it's the latter, given you have lied saying Nintendo called it a remaster.
Echoes of Wisdom is releasing in days & ive been stuck unable to go anywhere bc of large rocks within the first 20mins of Links Awakening lol
Probably wont be much of an issue in EOW lol
@@AndresRestart im already playing echoes, its pretty good😂😂
You need to do the first dungeon.
@@talison461it's meh and has framerate issues.
@@n1nj4l1nk i’m loving it, fucking hate the faron wetlands rift though.
Excited to play echoes of wisdom finally
Did they really say that the theory behind games was to gradually remove restrictions and make things more free? Because if so, that's a little disappointing to hear, personally. I believe that restrictions can lead to creativity. Like having one problem with five different solutions versus one problem that you need to think about the sequence of events given your current items in order to find the one solution for. Personally, I think the second option is more fun.
I get it, but I don't want to be like everyone else. I want to solve problems my way and have a completely different experience. Its no fun if everyone solves the problem the same way.
Too much freedom can lead to boring bland generic puzzles that are super easy. Part of what makes zelda zelda is having fun puzzles that really make you think. A link between worlds is a perfect example of having some freedom in the order of dungeons and stuff but the puzzles within the dungeons were complex ans wonderful. I'm hoping that this balance they speak of doesn't diminish the complexity of the dungeon puzzles. A link between worlds had some serious head scratchers that felt super rewarding to solve. I'm playing a game callef phoenotopia awakens right now and it has puzzles and dungeons that rival my favorite zelda games. Highly recommend to every zelda fan. It's an absolutely massive game. You can sink dozens of hours doing side quests and mini games and exploring and that's just the optional stuff!
See, that's the issue. I never once felt that I had to stop and think with any puzzle in Link Between Worlds. Nor did I ever feel like 99% of the puzzles in any pre-BotW ever made me stop and think. The reason why is because all those games were so limited in scope and possibilities that the solution was always right there.
With BotW, TotK and EoW (which I just finished) I found myself stopping and thinking through what I was going to do multiple times. It wasn't because the puzzle was necessarily "hard" (because no Zelda puzzle has ever been) but because you have so many options in these new three games that you have an entire list of possibilities you can run through for each task.
A puzzle is something that only has 1 solution. If it has more than that, it's not a puzzle, it's just problem solving.
I personally love puzzles. Problem solving is great too, but it can get a little exhausting sometimes keeping up with a ton of variables. I'm happy for the people who love problem solving, but I can't help but feel a little disappointed in hearing them potentially abandon traditional puzzles
@@EmeraldMan25 This is just blatantly false. A puzzle can have multiple solutions. Are you really implying that a Rubik's cube or a Jigsaw PUZZLE aren't puzzles? Because they both have multiple ways to solve them.
@@envytee9659 Does a jigsaw puzzle not typically have only one intended solution? Also no, I wouldn't consider a Rubik's Cube to be a puzzle. A Rubik's Cube is problem solving again.
@@EmeraldMan25 No, a jigsaw puzzle has many solutions. No two people will solve one in the same way.
I can’t believe that we are only a few days away from release!
Less than 54 hours for me!
About 40 hrs for me
So looking forward to this
I was thinking about them releasing a dungeon editor as dlc, because i thought the dungeons in eow were suspiciously blockie. They might be gauging our interest.
@andresrestart great video Andres, can’t wait until Thursday to play this game. Have put aside the whole day to play this innovative game.
pretty much everyone I know on the internet would consider twilight princess hd and ww hd a remake. If it didn’t have any changes at all it wouldn’t be but there is a ton, so they’re not just ports.
Everyone you know on the Internet is an idiot then, they're remasters.
Twilight Princess is NOT a remake!
And Ocarina of Time is a semi remake at best (half remake, half remaster). You wouldn't consider Skyward Sword or Mario Galaxy remakes, would you? Even Metroid Prime and even The Spyro and Crash Bandicoot games are considered Remasters, and THAT are remakes! (Granted Metroid Prime might also be a semi remake, semi remaster, like Ocarina of Time.)
We will never ever get another new LINEAR Zelda game. I will forever be grieving the loss
Womp to the Womp
Echoes of Wisdom is structured exactly like Link Between Worlds. You complete a few dungeons in any order of your choice, then you get a second set of dungeons you complete in any order, then a final boss.
This is honestly vastly superior to other 2d Zelda games which forced you to do the first three dungeons in one specific order when that order really didn't even matter in those games.
The 3d Zelda games could have also been change into a similar format without messing up the story.
Look at Ocarina of Time. Once you leave the Deku Tree and meet Zelda... did it really matter whether you did Jabu Jabu or Dodongo's Cavern first? No. Doing either of them in any order wouldn't have changed the story. Same goes for the medallion dungeons. Doing them in any order wouldn't have changed the story.
Echoes of Wisdom and Link Between Worlds were also considered to be open designs, and that design was much better than a strictly linear approach. If the future games follow this approach, that's the best of all worlds.
@@envytee9659Back in the day when we got a new item in each dungeon which were also needed in the dungeons that followed the order did matter.
I have an example where the order in which you beat 3 dungeons didn't matter and what it did to the dungeon items?
In Phantom Hourglass (Which despite this one problem is still a great game.) the order in which you beat the last 3 dungeons doesn't matter. Usually you'd beat the goron temple first where you'd get the bomb chus (don't know if this is the right name in english. I mean the bombs that crawl around.) The whole temple is built around them. Outside this one tmeple though, you barely use them. Neither of the 2 other dungeons can use them because then it'd be impossible to beat them out of order. I basically forgot about them all together.
The same thing happened to the hammer.
The only item I did use regularly was the grappling hook and this only during back tracking.
Basically the only time you used the hammer and the bomb chus were in their respective dungeons and at the very end in the temple of the oncean king.
Personally I preferr when there is a given order in which you beat the dungeons in so that every dungeon can make use of your entire arsenal of tools and therefore elevate it's puzzles and items.
@@envytee9659"Vastly superior" my ass. ALBW still suffered a lot from its non-linearity, having one of the weakest dungeon rosters in the series. They were better than the dungeons in BotW and TotK, sure, but that bar is underground, so there's no merit there whatsoever.
The story is far from the only thing that's been diminished by the non-linear structure. As a matter of fact, that's not even on the top of the list.
We'll see if "Echoes of Wisdom" somehow does something to remedy this, but I'm not holding my breath.
Been looking forward to this. Been wanting them to make a 2D style game for ages. And this looks great!
nah, they need to cut it down on the freedom
someone hasn't played the game yet
Well, it’s technically an isometric
I wonder if there will be a DLC for this game? Although I do know there will be amiibo. Either way can’t wait
Dont think so
@@claudiawalwyn2323 3 times per day you can use any Zelda Amiibos and get items for smoozies. Or cloths.
“First ever female director”
First ev…where have i heard…ooooh! now it all makes sense. I predicted that zelda will/is transforming from a boy brand into a girl brand. With the director, this confirms it. “A frog in a kettle” slow change. I hope Nintendo stays Nintendo. Only time will tell
@@thesis-and-nieces6722 That you think the Zelda games are gendered at all says more about you than the games in question.
Why did Nintendo make her a mute like Link?
My thoughts exactly. They are gonna have a much harder time justifying Link's muteness after this. It's pretty obvious at this point that they do it just out of laziness, cowardice or both.
@XanderVJ i agree with you. This is why Nintendo games keep flopping nowadays compared to big AAA games from other companies such as take2 cdpr ubisoft square enix capcom konami bandai namco atlus and others.
@@khabibnurmuhammadov All Square, Ubi and Sony have done this year is winge about how “poorly” their games have sold. Even if one Nintendo game does less well than another they still have their evergreen titles flying off shelves to keep the cash flow going.
@kenji6492 im so sad becos ps5 exclusive infinity nikki looks billion times better that EoW
No, "technically" it's 3D top-down Zelda
You can play the game now to know all these details.
Yeah, illegally. No thanks
I wouldn’t feel good doing that when other people are waiting.
Just going to wait until I buy my own physical copy of the game. It's always more fun buying the game & installing it into my device!
im just hoping it doesnt become some propaganda, that aside imexited to finaly play as zelda in zelda, it looks realy fun
hi AndresRestart
The game is almost isometric top down.
You say ‘what I’m trying to say here’ about 5 times in this video. Who cares if they say remake or remaster? Something has been lost in translation, it’s as simple as that.
That's really interesting. Repurposed zelda game ideas are nothing new. Like Link's Awakening starting life as a port of ALttP.
"Link's Awakening" was never supposed to be a port of ALttP. What Koizumi said was that he wanted to bring the type of experience from ALttP to a handheld format. But it was never supposed to be a port, they knew that was impossible on the original GB hardware from the get go.
The game is good but short. I finished it in three days.
Fuck 😭
Im up to the second rift and it feels like is going to be short, its been fun so far tho
I got a bad feeling about this...
Its going to be a great game I promise you
Ok fine but we gotta get away from the bubbly plastic art style for 2d Zelda or I’ll stay away from it the way I did every crappy game boy entry lol
I think this artstyle is just for 2d top down Zelda on Switch 1. The next games will likely have a new style for a new generation.
Zelda has always been experimental with its art style, but I agree. I thought it was nice for Link's Awakening remake, as anything was better than the GB original, but I really want something better going forward for top down Zelda.
Oracles is peak
@@kenji6492 Always heard it was good, but GB graphics are just a bit too old school for me
@@corey2232 I can understand that for me it’s the constant menuing that brings them down, not the graphics.
First
It’s available with pirate
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