Speaker SET UP. Should you set your speakers to LARGE or small?

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  • @mack4477
    @mack4477 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    The LPF for LFE should be left at 120. It’s the low pass filter where the sub starts to roll off. By dropping that to 80 hz your limiting the subs abilities to help in the 80-120 hz range. Regardless of where you have your speakers crossed over, the LPF should be left at 120 hz.

    • @adamjj85
      @adamjj85 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That's right. Seems like he meant to go to the crossover screen to set the speakers to 80hz, not the LFE screen. This should really be clarified to avoid confusion.

    • @askmatt7283
      @askmatt7283 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      This has also been my understanding. Good catch 🍺

    • @lewis6720
      @lewis6720 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This has been through rule for the longest now with LPF for LFE at 120hz. I don't understand why he would set it to 80.

    • @andrewjohn6853
      @andrewjohn6853 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What are your thoughts on localization starting around 70hz?
      Edit: for clarification the change he made was correct. You don't want your subs to be localized.

    • @andrewjohn6853
      @andrewjohn6853 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@adamjj85 But that would be an HPF for your mid bass woofers, not an LPF. Your mid bass woofers in a surround sound environment will have good localization with an HPF at 80hz and you should match that crossover on the LPF for subs. Depending on how the speakers are setup (active or passive) you will also have to calculate what your actual dB roll off is on your passive crossovers in the speaker unit additional to any digital signal crossovers you also apply.

  • @keepingupwiththejones2933
    @keepingupwiththejones2933 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love hearing and seeing the look on a happy customer's face

    • @Dreamediaav
      @Dreamediaav  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for your support!

  • @supercoolmunkee
    @supercoolmunkee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Don't stop posting contents! Keep it coming! You are my first choice for any home theater related projects, even if I have to wait five or ten more years before I purchase a new home to kickstart anything home theater related. I'll be starting my new job at my new organization tomorrow. I'll have to move out of my parents' house at some point to start living the dream. I will consider you when the time is right.

    • @Dreamediaav
      @Dreamediaav  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for your support Doug! We will keep the content coming! 😁

  • @timwatts6522
    @timwatts6522 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love online audio advice, you always get different answers to the same question. REL representative said to set speakers to large.

    • @Dreamediaav
      @Dreamediaav  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Totally get that! Audio advice can be a bit all over the place. Setting speakers to large can definitely work depending on your setup. If you want to dive deeper into your audio questions, reach out to our specialists at 877-417-9000 or schedule a free video consultation!

  • @ricky_duran3353
    @ricky_duran3353 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Short,Sweet and Informative. Got to watch while getting ready for work

    • @supercoolmunkee
      @supercoolmunkee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dreamedia always comes first before you get busy with life. You can't start the day without Dreamedia. 😉

    • @Dreamediaav
      @Dreamediaav  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for your support Ricky! Hope it helps!

  • @ShaileshPatel-le8cq
    @ShaileshPatel-le8cq ปีที่แล้ว

    AVR - Yamaha HTR 4072. (5.1)
    All Yamaha Bookshelf speakers as below.
    Center - 58Hz - 45Khz
    FS - 57Hz - 45Khz
    SS - 62Hz - 20Khz
    SW - 20-160Hz
    According to abv what crossover is to be set.
    Finally I will listen and decide but 1st you suggest.
    Happy New Year

  • @franklynlindsay2728
    @franklynlindsay2728 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thx Zach, with those 2 minor adjustment on my Denon-X4700H Receiver the bass is deeper, mids are richer & the highs are so much more precise👍🏾

    • @Dreamediaav
      @Dreamediaav  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad we were able to help! Thanks for watching!

  • @robcohen
    @robcohen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Setting all speakers to small is indeed best when you have sub(s), but the LFE LPF is not a crossover. It's just a low pass filter for the LFE effects channel. You typically want to leave that at 120hz even when you use a 80hz bass management crossover. The only exception is if you listen to a very rare movie where the mastering engineer made a mistake and put broken content in the LFE channel. In those cases, you can reduce the LFE LPF to filter that out.

    • @Dreamediaav
      @Dreamediaav  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      These are just recommendations that you could try out. There are many variations of speaker combos that can make our recommendations different. In this situation the bass came through much cleaner and tighter and is worth eliminating the 80-120hz on the LFE. Try it out at 80hz and worse case you can change it back 120hz. Thanks for commenting!

    • @robcohen
      @robcohen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Dreamediaav hmm...normally filtering out high frequencies makes the bass less "tight" not more. If there is correlated content in both LFE and full range channels, it's possible that a non-matching cutoff frequency would result in phase differences. That could cause cancellation for the correlated content. Normally, the same signal isn't sent to LFE and full range channels, but the mastering engineers can do it if they want, so it may be content specific.

  • @BEEFTEEF4
    @BEEFTEEF4 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great vid. Just to unpack it a bit… Newer AVRs have an option to send full range to center and surround even in "small" mode. In these newer AVRs "small" means full range to center + surrounds and then activate the subwoofer at the crossover point.
    Setting to large treats the center + surround crossovers as HARD STOPS, where the center + surround will not play below the crossover and the sub picks up at the crossover.
    People that set to large are buying into the delusion that a pair of $1000 fronts can replicate 60hz better than a $750 subwoofer (let alone a pair of them?) no way.
    Try it and listen for yourself. I've tried both and unless you are running $150k of Von Schweikerts as your center + surround, you should be in small mode.
    I also recommend setting an extremely capable center crossover (paired with capable subs) to 60Hz as some vocal range can get into the subs and make for less clear audio. Cheers.

  • @japolo8393
    @japolo8393 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was really helpful. Thank you for your time.

  • @WindomRettes
    @WindomRettes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What about 2 channel stereo music with a sub on a Yamaha receiver using the extra bass setting?

    • @scottcooksey5284
      @scottcooksey5284 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Leave it on large tune your subwoofer accordingly.

    • @Dreamediaav
      @Dreamediaav  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Typically 2 channel set ups are more premium speakers and will have a lower frequency response so in order to really enjoy your investment most people leave it set to large. We hope to do more 2 channel content in the future but home theater has had an overwhelmingly amount of interest. Thanks for watching!

  • @pablosarti1216
    @pablosarti1216 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How nice to be able to pay that service. Go into your room being now a cinema.

    • @Dreamediaav
      @Dreamediaav  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Transforming your room into a cinema is an exciting venture! With the right equipment and setup, you can create an incredible home theater experience. If you're looking for guidance on how to achieve that or have any questions about equipment options, feel free to contact us at 877-417-9000 or schedule a free video consultation. We're here to help you make your dream cinema a reality!

  • @avrtamil
    @avrtamil 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very nice video

  • @keepingupwiththejones2933
    @keepingupwiththejones2933 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have always set my speakers to small and let my subwoofers do the heavy lifting

  • @ShaileshPatel-le8cq
    @ShaileshPatel-le8cq ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video. Pl make general video on AVR calibration.

  • @texxhexxmm
    @texxhexxmm ปีที่แล้ว

    How is your experience with a 5.2.6 Layout and Marantz Cinema 50? I think about upgrading from 4 height speakers to an additional pair of top middle in ceiling..a Hybrid;)

  • @JohnSmith-qi6co
    @JohnSmith-qi6co 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So glad Denon got rid of the "large" and "small" terminology--at least on the x4800h and probably all the others. It was too confusing for beginners and time after time had to be explained. The menus now speak of frequencies and routing. NO MORE LARGE VS. SMALL THANK YOU!

    • @Dreamediaav
      @Dreamediaav  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Absolutely! The change in terminology to frequencies and routing makes it much more user-friendly, especially for beginners. It simplifies the setup process and reduces confusion. If you have any questions or want to dive deeper into your setup, feel free to call our specialists at 877-417-9000 or schedule a free video consultation!

  • @danmaier2077
    @danmaier2077 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the Video
    Greetings from Austria 🇦🇹

    • @Dreamediaav
      @Dreamediaav  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for your support! 😁

    • @danmaier2077
      @danmaier2077 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Dreamediaav I've had LFE on 120Hz until now and today I set all speakers to 80Hz and LFE to 80Hz as well. I noticed a big difference, much, much better and pleasant the sound although many say you should leave the LFE at 120Hz. I personally like it so LFE on 80Hz! Greetings from Austria 🇦🇹 Europe

    • @Dreamediaav
      @Dreamediaav  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@danmaier2077 It’s a very debatable topic but all the matters is that you make your personal system sound as good as possible. Glad we were able to help! Have a great week!

  • @melraine919
    @melraine919 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice one and thanks for the demo & info. UK

  • @dfalekulo9138
    @dfalekulo9138 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hey man, I'd have to disagree with the lpf for lfe. As the lfe channel is dedicated for lfe, if a sound engineer does indeed put bass through lfe between 80 and 120, this would be missed as the bass signal does not go to full range speakers no matter what

    • @Dreamediaav
      @Dreamediaav  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      These are just recommendations that you could try out. There are many variations of speaker combos that can make our recommendations different. In this situation the bass came through much cleaner and tighter and is worth eliminating the 80-120hz on the LFE. Try it out at 80hz and worse case you can change it back 120hz. Thanks for commenting!

  • @boigoe
    @boigoe ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi rel subwoofers say set it to large...wat do u think on this

  • @ChupaRustom2023
    @ChupaRustom2023 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi team I have a question about pioneer AVR, I own elite VSX 50 and in pioneer there is an option in the remote control audio parameter where phase control plus function is activated when you play Dolby and DTS movies or videos, this is set to 6 millisecond by default, and it sounds great bass is great through mains and all but it does not sound right and bass is missing in some Blu-ray’s and dvd unless I change the settings to 9 or 12 milliseconds but then I loose bass in other movies and videos, can you pls help and tell me what’s the best setting for phase control plus, and please Note the MCACC does not change this setting. You have to manually adjust, please help how it works it’s so frustrating. Thanks

  • @samesultani9191
    @samesultani9191 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks I'll try it

  • @bobpena1490
    @bobpena1490 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What if you do rel 3d subwoofer set up then what do you do ?

  • @taheralikhan5771
    @taheralikhan5771 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You must answer me ok I am watching your every video it’s awesome bro
    Please suggest me what crossover I can set my processor
    My home theatre setup
    Focal sopra n2
    Frequency response (33db)34Hz-40khz
    Low frequency point-6dB 28dB
    Center focal Electra
    Frequency response (33dB)55Hz-40khz
    Low frequency point(-6dB)>50Hz
    Rear surround
    Bipolar focal chorus800v
    Frequency response
    +/-3dB 75Hz-28khz
    -6dB>65Hz
    Rear surround focal 806v
    (+/-3dB) 55Hz-28khz
    Low frequency point(-6dB)47Hz
    Subwoofer Definitive technology power field reference 11Hz-200hz
    For LPF FOR LFE 80Hz or 120Hz

  • @tc-vo5ux
    @tc-vo5ux 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would you also set all speaker crossovers to 80Hz with the bass set up in this manner?

    • @andrewjohn6853
      @andrewjohn6853 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ideally you would cross your mid bass with an HPF at 80hz

    • @Dreamediaav
      @Dreamediaav  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not necessarily. It depends on the speakers used in the room. Running the calibration mic first is a good place to start and then manipulate the crossovers one at a time and see how it changes the frequency response. Each speaker and room is different. Thanks for watching!

  • @jshahulhameed6670
    @jshahulhameed6670 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi sir I have an doubt IAM using a 5.1 home theater for PC in realtek audio manager there is a option for full range speakers should I turn it off to high volume from speakers or should I turn off and get large volume from speakers
    Pls reply me sir
    Help

  • @MrArjanOskam
    @MrArjanOskam 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can not seem to find this menu on my Denon AVR-x2800h

    • @Dreamediaav
      @Dreamediaav  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for your comment. If you have any questions or need assistance, feel free to call our specialists at 877-417-9000 or schedule a free video consultation!

  • @manasil20092009
    @manasil20092009 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Woow superb video😍👌..I need a suggestion from you guys.My room size is 22*13*9.Im having denon 4700h amp. My speakers are Klipsch 620f(front), r51m(surrounds), r52c(centre). I would like to change the system for better sound output. Should i go with KEF Q650(centre), Q 350(front & surrounds) or Higher model KLIPSCH. Which one will better in terms of movie performance.KEF or KLIPSCH

  • @MJamesIII
    @MJamesIII 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    More reasons why TH-cam needs a laugh button 😂😂😂

    • @Dreamediaav
      @Dreamediaav  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad we could make you lol 😂 😁

  • @manasil20092009
    @manasil20092009 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey, Well explained video👌its always a pleasure watching your videos..Need a suggestion from you
    Im having 4700h denon amp. My room size is 22*13*9...now im having klipsch 620f(front)..r52c (centre)..51m (surrounds). I would like to upgrade my home theatre.i only watch movies.Not intetested in music listening.which one will be a better choice KEF or Q ACCOUSTIC or SVS PRIME or KLIPSCH itself. I want to hear the dialogue with utmost clarity even at a distsnce of 22 feet.Which one will be your suggestion?

    • @Dreamediaav
      @Dreamediaav  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We always recommend keeping the same manufacturer throughout the system if possible to have the same tonal balance. We would recommend going with a klipsch. You could upgrade to the reference premier center speaker like the RP-504c or RP-404c. Just make sure your crossover is set properly and the level output is adjusted based on your seating area. The built in calibration mic is a good place to start. Thanks for watching!

  • @prenticeandrew11
    @prenticeandrew11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I feel this may be one of the most underrated tech channels on TH-cam. Come deck out my house please!!!!

    • @Dreamediaav
      @Dreamediaav  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for your support! 😁💪

  • @Donit359
    @Donit359 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Leave the Bass crossover at 120… speakers are set to 80 then nothing except what’s below 80hz will be sent to the sub…but the LFE channel may include info up to 120hz…you are potentially losing sound by changing that

  • @ofcourseimfullofit
    @ofcourseimfullofit 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m curious. What if your front speakers are big speakers with 10” woofers and you only have 1 sub and it’s only an 8”? Wouldn’t setting the fronts to large and then use the setting LFE+Main be better? Or should I still set my fronts to small and have all the bass go through the 8” sub even though my front drivers are bigger?

  • @straiteE
    @straiteE ปีที่แล้ว

    😳 bass!

  • @whitecrowuk575
    @whitecrowuk575 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Crossover at 80 is THX standard and meant to apply well to any subwoofer good or bad. If your sub extends well into 200Hz and your speakers would have distorted 80Hz, as many do, higher one would be actually better and result in less muddy low frequencies. There is no localization issue with LF up to 120-150 and much less of an issue if you have 2 or more subs. Remember nothing will reproduce LF as cleanly with low distortion as subwoofer - so use it!

  • @Squishmallows24
    @Squishmallows24 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I set mine to medium

  • @chrisohrling149
    @chrisohrling149 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For setting up the speakers to large or small it's all about the room size and I am running a 7.2 surround sound home theater system and I have all of my speakers set to small and I'm running all cerwin vega speakers for my home theater so it's all about your room size and not having big or small speakers and how I know this is because I talked to a audio video specialist and which happens to be a very good friend of mine for the past 30 years and I wish that everyone else would be on the same page and not be giving out false information

  • @nagumaninagu9368
    @nagumaninagu9368 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi sir

    • @Dreamediaav
      @Dreamediaav  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello! Thanks for watching!

  • @anoopk1771
    @anoopk1771 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Sorry to say you are absolutely WRONG, should have the basic idea about crossover settings for the LFE and Bass Management, both are independent and different. If the Sub is selected to run in LFE mode you are supposed to set the LFE cutoff for LFE channel, nothing to do with the speakers used. LFE channel has content from 120Hz and its supposed to be 120 ALWAYS. by setting it to 80, you are restricting the LFE channel from 80-120. The bass management is selected with the speakers, not with the subwoofer. That is done in the speaker crossover. Surprised to see these kind of blunders from installers. Also the bass management with the speakers are not done by giving a blind number like 80, its based on the room response, most probably a room like this will suit 100-110.

    • @Dreamediaav
      @Dreamediaav  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      These are just recommendations that you could try out. There are many variations of speaker combos that can make our recommendations different. In this situation the bass came through much cleaner and tighter and is worth eliminating the 80-120hz on the LFE. Try it out at 80hz and worse case you can change it back 120hz. Thanks for commenting!

    • @anoopk1771
      @anoopk1771 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Dreamediaav By doing this you are restricting \ missing the LFE track content from 80-120hz.

    • @Analyzer52
      @Analyzer52 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@anoopk1771 Everybody has said this in the comments already about the LFE...you are correct. However, an 80 crossover is the starting point for novice. Ask yourself if a person needs this video to understand the settings do you really think they are taking room measurements 🤔

    • @anoopk1771
      @anoopk1771 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Analyzer52 For LFE there is no starting point, 120 fixed. For speakers, a novice's starting point for this kind of room is 100 or 110 not 80, that's what I said.

    • @Analyzer52
      @Analyzer52 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@anoopk1771 The standard cross over point for speakers not The LFE channel is 80 hz everyone will tell you that. You are stuck on discussing LFE when I clearly said 120 hz was was right for that. If you are not taking room measurements and have any decent speaker 80 hz crossover is the standard recommendation. That’s recommended just about everywhere.

  • @Analyzer52
    @Analyzer52 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @Dreamedia Home Theater yall are getting roasted of the one mistake in this video hopefully whoever watches it will read the 500 comments saying the exact same thing...jeez people we get LFE is 120hz...can we please move on.

  • @TechinaSec101
    @TechinaSec101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You normally have the correct information, but placing 80hz for LPF for LFE is incorrect, and the fact the customer said what he said makes it seem like a lie. Your channel was great :/ what happened.

    • @tordb
      @tordb ปีที่แล้ว

      120hz is too high for subwoofers. He should have honestly went 60hz and under for thunderous bass. My home theater JL Audio 15’s are set to 60hz and it’s monstrous. If you set it too high, you’re missing out. And 120 is laughable for subwoofers when it can go downwards to 24hz

  • @davidmckee2898
    @davidmckee2898 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    To be honest with you the guy in the video didn't look that impressed🤔

  • @dylanstone2313
    @dylanstone2313 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m having problems with my speaker frequently I don’t how to make it sound good

  • @irelandgp
    @irelandgp ปีที่แล้ว

    i hava a killer home made out of 15 olab bang olufsen on a marrantz 7702 - interested ? tv samsung 75'' got a nother system 85 '' too