The small CO2 cartrige and low capacity are some pretty serious design compromises, so it was clearly important to the designers that it was as compact as possible. I guess this pistol must have originally been designed for a different market where it is legal to carry pistols that shoot pepper balls etc.
Hello from the lower Florida Keys in the US. Your video on the HDR50 started me on my launcher collection around a bit over a year ago. I have several in my collection with the Walther PPQ M2 in .43cal and this Compact as my two favorite ones. The Compact is an odd launcher, but with common sense and practice it has a lot of potential. More options with launcher and less than lethal on this side of the pond. ( That is if you live the right States, ie Florida. ) Back on topic, this launcher may not be for everyone, but it is a great option if you work with it.
What an odd thing - at first it looked like a plastic brick left in the oven too long. But Andy, you did show the thing actually works. Like most small pistols, it is a collection of compromises. Thanks for keeping us informed about all the developments in the sport - and keeping it fun.
if they redesign the magazine follower they could squeeze in a fifth round. the 8 gram CO2s are common seltzer bottle canisters. here in the USA we can order them from Walmart. you may have a store like that where you live.
More powerful version sounds interesting. From what I heard Andy say, the grip could use a little length, so, if they would go to to the 12 g Co2 - there you are…, and higher shot count.
If you take the plastic block out of the airchamber, these little things really zing. Just unscrew the brass disk the charge indicator is housed in, and yank the black plastic widget right out. It'll do 400fps then.
Interesting pistol but hardly compact, personally I'd rather have a couple of extra rounds & a 12g Co2 on board even if it was a bit bigger , it's going to be expensive to run with the smaller Co2's and obviously have less shots per capsule exasperating the situation . I'm pretty certain any half decent catapult will trounce it for power even if it's harder for a novice to become competent with , but the practice is half the fun so it gives You the excuse to practice more , after all any excuse is better than none . Thanks Andy , Shoot Straight Stay Safe & Stay Well.
Nice video as always Andy. I had one but sendt it back. The detent in mine was faulty from the factory. But its cool little pistol. Cheers from your friend in Norway
it was nice seeing you today in vector-air i was well surprised to see you both and thanks andy and mrs aar today great show keep it up and thanks for the autographs
This would make a great bedside table 'grab and defend' gizmo. Yes only 4 rounds but they may just buy you valuable seconds in an emergency. Think I may have a closer look at this lil fella.
It's no more or less likely to get you into trouble than using a kitchen knife or smacking them with a rolling pin. It's legal to possess at home, and like other household items you might use as a weapon in self-defence within the home it is entirely down to you to justify the level of force used.
@@Mark-jo9odunfortunately the police would rather have a thief threaten you, take all your hard earned possessions just for them to "log" it and do nothing than have someone actually defending themselves. But they wouldn't think twice about nicking you for GBH or ABH against that poor little low life criminal.
I love these types of guns but living in the UK i can see these coming under scrutiny of the law makers over here. I know they under the limit power wise and they cant ban paintballs but am sure they will question 50 cal that can hit that hard. So my thoughts are to buy one before they do lol.
Some people need not comment. It's not for causing harm to people.... And if you live in a country where you can get a real pistol get a grip..... The UK doesn't allow for the right reasons 👍 Doesn't mean they can't get them just a ball ache to get one through the law ... people get shotguns and rifles...... But it's still a ball ache...
This is the only T4E allowed in The Netherlands, because it doesn't look like a replica of a real firearm. Unlike Belgium and Germany, where you can buy all the T4E replica's.
Great video as always Andy, It looks great and now you've reviewed a few of this HD genre for the lovely chaps and chapesses at Umarex, which would be your favourite?
Early upload great vidio keep the content coming andy and team always listion to your reviews when out shooting now we have a compact like fullvside double barral version
A very powerful airsoft sniper rifle will put out about 1.7 ft/lbs. And sniper rifles are meant to enage at longer distances due to their power because up close, they can really cause injury, so when you consider that, 4+ ft/lbs sounds like a lot!
On the other hand, even the humble .22lr is usually somewhere around 120 ft/lbs, and that is considered inadequate for self defense. This gun would definitely cause an injury if it hit someone in the face, but I can't see it stopping a determined attacker, especially with only four rounds.
One thing to consider there is that Airsoft uses 6mm bbs and the TP-50 uses 12.7mm (.50 cal) balls; the smaller bbs can penetrate skin a lot easier at lower power levels. Imagine lightly jabbing yourself in the hand with a knife versus lightly hitting your palm with a hammer, the knife is likely to stick in you even with a gentle push. This is why velocity figures given in feet-per-second are arbitrary until weighed against the calibre and grain of ammunition
@@Doctor_Boz That plastic airsoft BB may have a smaller surface area, but it also has very little mass, and thus little kinetic energy. That's why we express it in the form of ft/lbs (or joules) because that takes both velocity and mass into consideration. A BB may be better at breaking the skin, but it won't transfer as much energy to the target. Neither has enough energy to be effective as an anti personnel weapon anyway,, so it's a moot point.
IMO it’s not that much more compact to excuse its other short falls. I personally would much rather have a slightly larger gun with standard size cartridges and a reasonable size mag.
Less lethal translates as lightly laughable. Someone coming at me with a weapon or just plain physical intent, I wouldn't trade a single shot .22 Derringer for this.
You should be able to set the windage on the rear sight .BSA Essentials 3x9x40 ao is a fairly decent & relatively inexpensive scope , Hawk scopes are a step up but so are the prices .
Reluctantly I come at this from the point of other commenters, can't be used for home defense in the UK, useless in a paintball game I'm not even sure you could use it for garden plinking unless you have massive garden. So what is it for in the UK.?
Hi Andy you keep referring to angry of mayfair's rantings. Unfortunately this person has the same or is using my user name which I have had for several years and I'm getting a lot of stick from people who know me as you have mentioned angry a few times. I do enjoy and look forward to what you produce and find it very informative and just to clarify, i personally have never sent any rants over your content.
'Your' username? How do you reckon it's yours? 'Mr Angry of Mayfair' was a character portrayed by Kenny Everett in 'The Kenny Everett Video Show' which first aired in the late 70s. It's been a meme since, it's not 'yours'. He's not talking about you, he's referring to pop culture.
Always feel these things are really meant for pepper balls etc. Which would make it completely illegal in the UK. In this state with solid ball ammo might scare off an intruder but it's not gonna stop anyone, especially in an emotionally charged state or even wearing a large coat...
@@rogersmith8339 true...but so would punches, meat cleavers, hammers, flying crockery etc. 🤣 I think people don't realise how of much of an effect adrenaline has in making attackers so much harder to stop.. Or the two gallon of class A's the would be intruder would be on. Deffo not be pleasant for a intruder if one was to begin unloading a series of large ball bearings into someones much! (Sounded a bit double entendre that... Didn't mean it too!! 🤣)
To bad, they could not build a larger version, same Look, Just Bigger and takes 12G CO2 and holds more Rounds. I would not want to be hit by that little Gun .50 Cal OUCH!
Really not keen on these sort of guns. If it was pointed at you in anger you'd have no idea if it was real or not. What does training for engagement mean. I think it means you'll get a police G36 or similar shoved in your face if you're not careful
Good review of an interesting gun with some innovative features, even if it's not for me. I would be very careful with it in the garden, it's powerful enough to cause some damage if you don't dodge the flying balls. Regarding the "HD" controversy; anyone who has seen a decent barrister in full flow knows that they would be like hyenas sniffing fresh blood if anyone shot an intruder with one of these. Thanks for the many reviews over the last few years, I've bought guns because you recommended them, BUT you do turn into a bit of a snowflake whenever anyone disagrees with you.
4.5ft lbs if you where to get shot with this it would hurt and that is a fact for all you haters i would like to see you line up and take one in the back saying its feeble is a misunder standing clearly 😂😂😂
@@moonliteX Not at all. If you want to defend yourself, dont play with something that people can in any way shape or form rub off. la few bruises aint gonna stop many people. only some
Mmmmm. Not fussed, obviously not intended for the UK market in the first instance. Again has the HD label, leading the unknowning to employ it as named, or even pocket carry it out for personal protection. Last I'd head this earns a 5yr stretch in clink c/o His Highness pleasure. If they just re marketed it with a different name 🤔 Enjoyed the review, but this won't be joining my collection
The small CO2 cartrige and low capacity are some pretty serious design compromises, so it was clearly important to the designers that it was as compact as possible.
I guess this pistol must have originally been designed for a different market where it is legal to carry pistols that shoot pepper balls etc.
Exactly. These pepper ball guns are very popular here in many states of the USA.
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Looks like something I could attach to my garden hose and make it water powered.
These look like great fun. To be honest I'd probably go for the HDP as it has a 6 round capacity and standard CO2 for the same price.
Like Holland
Hello from the lower Florida Keys in the US. Your video on the HDR50 started me on my launcher collection around a bit over a year ago. I have several in my collection with the Walther PPQ M2 in .43cal and this Compact as my two favorite ones. The Compact is an odd launcher, but with common sense and practice it has a lot of potential. More options with launcher and less than lethal on this side of the pond. ( That is if you live the right States, ie Florida. ) Back on topic, this launcher may not be for everyone, but it is a great option if you work with it.
What an odd thing - at first it looked like a plastic brick left in the oven too long. But Andy, you did show the thing actually works. Like most small pistols, it is a collection of compromises. Thanks for keeping us informed about all the developments in the sport - and keeping it fun.
if they redesign the magazine follower they could squeeze in a fifth round. the 8 gram CO2s are common seltzer bottle canisters. here in the USA we can order them from Walmart. you may have a store like that where you live.
I have this little thing, it works fantastic for its purpose. Very happy with it
How many shots do you get from one co2 cartridge?
@@peterhoofien7302 12.. although that doesn’t really matter since it carries 4 balls and you can activate the c02 cartridge when necessary
More powerful version sounds interesting. From what I heard Andy say, the grip could use a little length, so, if they would go to to the 12 g Co2 - there you are…, and higher shot count.
But still limited ammo capacity, and no fast loading.
If you take the plastic block out of the airchamber, these little things really zing. Just unscrew the brass disk the charge indicator is housed in, and yank the black plastic widget right out. It'll do 400fps then.
When I receive mine I'm going to do the same thing, it's so easy to do as well
just buy the 11j one does over 400ftps with rubber ball
i used umerax gas £11 for ten ...10 full power shots .....bought some brewers ones 13 full power shots £11 for 20
@@terencekidd1097 Nice one. Do you know if the 11j version has any form of chamber block? I wonder if that's the difference.
as far as i know it has no restriction
Great review Andy. Even though a lot of compromises have been made to keep it compact, it still looks like a lot of fun to shoot. All the best 🙂👍
Hello from Virginia USA. Love your channel.
Greetings from England 🏴
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Interesting pistol but hardly compact, personally I'd rather have a couple of extra rounds & a 12g Co2 on board even if it was a bit bigger , it's going to be expensive to run with the smaller Co2's and obviously have less shots per capsule exasperating the situation . I'm pretty certain any half decent catapult will trounce it for power even if it's harder for a novice to become competent with , but the practice is half the fun so it gives You the excuse to practice more , after all any excuse is better than none . Thanks Andy , Shoot Straight Stay Safe & Stay Well.
Nice video as always Andy. I had one but sendt it back. The detent in mine was faulty from the factory. But its cool little pistol. Cheers from your friend in Norway
Looks like good fun
it was nice seeing you today in vector-air i was well surprised to see you both and thanks andy and mrs aar today great show keep it up and thanks for the autographs
This would make a great bedside table 'grab and defend' gizmo. Yes only 4 rounds but they may just buy you valuable seconds in an emergency. Think I may have a closer look at this lil fella.
I have been informed that "home defense" items kept in your home in the UK and used in against a burglar may out you in trouble with the law.
You have a choice, defend yourself or submit to the burglar, both have consequences.
It's no more or less likely to get you into trouble than using a kitchen knife or smacking them with a rolling pin. It's legal to possess at home, and like other household items you might use as a weapon in self-defence within the home it is entirely down to you to justify the level of force used.
Guess it's the good old fashioned cricket bat then
@@Mark-jo9odunfortunately the police would rather have a thief threaten you, take all your hard earned possessions just for them to "log" it and do nothing than have someone actually defending themselves. But they wouldn't think twice about nicking you for GBH or ABH against that poor little low life criminal.
I’d rather go prison then be dead because I was scared of the law
I love these types of guns but living in the UK i can see these coming under scrutiny of the law makers over here. I know they under the limit power wise and they cant ban paintballs but am sure they will question 50 cal that can hit that hard. So my thoughts are to buy one before they do lol.
Heat the Co2 at 40degrees for more impact
Have the clocks gone forward?? Nice surprise though.. :D
Actually wondered, cause you said. But I didn't get a lie in, I'd have noticed that, at least!?
Apart from getting it the wrong way around!
lol 🥳👍 🎉 🪅 🎊 🍻
Some people need not comment.
It's not for causing harm to people....
And if you live in a country where you can get a real pistol get a grip.....
The UK doesn't allow for the right reasons 👍
Doesn't mean they can't get them just a ball ache to get one through the law ...
people get shotguns and rifles......
But it's still a ball ache...
There will be a 12g adapter soon if not already. Hopefully an ammo boost too.
Thank you, I've been waiting for a good review of this TP 50.
This is the only T4E allowed in The Netherlands, because it doesn't look like a replica of a real firearm. Unlike Belgium and Germany, where you can buy all the T4E replica's.
Great review..I love this little powerhouse.. thanks Andy..kind regards Dave 😁👍👍👍👍👍
Great video as always Andy, It looks great and now you've reviewed a few of this HD genre for the lovely chaps and chapesses at Umarex, which would be your favourite?
Early upload great vidio keep the content coming andy and team always listion to your reviews when out shooting now we have a compact like fullvside double barral version
That's a good thing to have around, in case zombies attack
A very powerful airsoft sniper rifle will put out about 1.7 ft/lbs. And sniper rifles are meant to enage at longer distances due to their power because up close, they can really cause injury, so when you consider that, 4+ ft/lbs sounds like a lot!
On the other hand, even the humble .22lr is usually somewhere around 120 ft/lbs, and that is considered inadequate for self defense.
This gun would definitely cause an injury if it hit someone in the face, but I can't see it stopping a determined attacker, especially with only four rounds.
£200 quid with red dot Nah
One thing to consider there is that Airsoft uses 6mm bbs and the TP-50 uses 12.7mm (.50 cal) balls; the smaller bbs can penetrate skin a lot easier at lower power levels.
Imagine lightly jabbing yourself in the hand with a knife versus lightly hitting your palm with a hammer, the knife is likely to stick in you even with a gentle push. This is why velocity figures given in feet-per-second are arbitrary until weighed against the calibre and grain of ammunition
@@Doctor_Boz That plastic airsoft BB may have a smaller surface area, but it also has very little mass, and thus little kinetic energy. That's why we express it in the form of ft/lbs (or joules) because that takes both velocity and mass into consideration.
A BB may be better at breaking the skin, but it won't transfer as much energy to the target. Neither has enough energy to be effective as an anti personnel weapon anyway,, so it's a moot point.
@@Doctor_Boz Yeah I get all that.
Go well with my Glock 17 .43 cal, T4E may have a look at it,
Is it 7.00am already ?
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Nice!
Looks Like A Decent Pistol ! 👍
I need one today.
Another Quality Review 👌
Great review but think with the smaller co2's it's a bit to different!
Please review the beeman cheif 2 please u will be impressed by the accuracy and the stunning 200 pounds pcp
Early release this morning....
Top review Andy. 👍👍👍👍👍
IMO it’s not that much more compact to excuse its other short falls. I personally would much rather have a slightly larger gun with standard size cartridges and a reasonable size mag.
Looks fun to shoot
Why they didn’t make the grip a few mil longer to accommodate a 12gram co2 capsule I don’t know.
Missed opportunity here, 12g bulb in slightly extended grip and far more desirable
another great review
Looks like a spud gun, i saw a video of someone review this and the front piece kept falling down when it was fired
Nice.
Review the browning x blade
It’s like a lady’s handbag self defence gun thing
If it was using 12g I would have got one !
Wonder how well this would work for pepper balls as a less lethal self defense weapon for my car
Less lethal translates as lightly laughable.
Someone coming at me with a weapon or just plain physical intent, I wouldn't trade a single shot .22 Derringer for this.
Can you buy pepper balls in the uk ?
Actually it is intended for that just marketed differently for european laws! its easy to make it stronger check YT!
Did you remove your review of the T4E TX pump action marker behind you, or did I hallucinate that you reviewed it?
Somebody is burning the midnight oil.
@@badgersalesman5595 and the cheapest 🕟
Nice
Morning Andy , how are you ? 😀🇬🇧🇪🇬
What happened to the Orange and black gun? Is this the same? Or newer? They said there wasn't a laser pointer to fit it.
I recently bought a smk b2 in.177. What scope do you think I should buy for it. With iron sights it shoots way to the left.
So aim to the right.
You should be able to set the windage on the rear sight .BSA Essentials 3x9x40 ao is a fairly decent & relatively inexpensive scope , Hawk scopes are a step up but so are the prices .
Great review what’s the FPS for the uk legal version vs the 16j
Tricky 😂
Hiya there Andy what air gun would you recommend as he's only 13yr and he can use my remington express xp.
Can you please help thank you
I watched a guy take 5 of these to a bullet proof vest. The pepper ball didn't phase him
Reluctantly I come at this from the point of other commenters, can't be used for home defense in the UK, useless in a paintball game I'm not even sure you could use it for garden plinking unless you have massive garden. So what is it for in the UK.?
I can buy it with 11 joule. I wonder how strong it will be
can we use it for paintball ?
Is this a new start time ? 😮
Performance lacks. I like it but it’s not powerful enough.
Prefer the hdr 50 I have for high stopping power.
What happened to the arrows from the end of last week's video
Kind of looks like a taser gun.
Hi Andy you keep referring to angry of mayfair's rantings. Unfortunately this person has the same or is using my user name which I have had for several years and I'm getting a lot of stick from people who know me as you have mentioned angry a few times. I do enjoy and look forward to what you produce and find it very informative and just to clarify, i personally have never sent any rants over your content.
'Your' username? How do you reckon it's yours? 'Mr Angry of Mayfair' was a character portrayed by Kenny Everett in 'The Kenny Everett Video Show' which first aired in the late 70s. It's been a meme since, it's not 'yours'. He's not talking about you, he's referring to pop culture.
@@engineeredlifeform marvellous yet gently unnecessary explanation for Brits of a certain age.
But obviously delivered in the best possible taste……
@@PhilbyFavourites Oh, don't be a Cupid Stunt!
Brilliant video thanks Andy. How secure do you think the trigger gaurd is? Do you think it will become a problem with repeat use? Thanks 😊
Hi Andy, what supplier do you use to get your pistols etc and are they available in the UK?
Vector Air handles all his procurements. I believe they're located in Nottingham.
This is not for training purposes. They are self defense weapons.
Jeebus kripes, the trigger and it’s guard seem cartoonish.
you gotta tilt your targets toward the ground to avoid that ricochet. Otherwise, this thing screams "Old ladies can be ex-cons too!"
use a catch box
4fpe?, decent 👍🏻🍻
This don’t maka sense what is it actually good for?
Yeah I think Im just gonna stick with My HD…Sorry, My totally not for “Home Defence” .50 Revolver…
Those gas cartriges = no sale
Shame the gas charging system (with 12gms) isn't used in their pellet guns....easier identification for our police ...easier seal repairs👍
YES !!! Brilliant. Its all its worth lol.
Hey Andy, Always wanted to say hi, and hope you respond, I currently own a sig suar M17 pellet
Always feel these things are really meant for pepper balls etc. Which would make it completely illegal in the UK.
In this state with solid ball ammo might scare off an intruder but it's not gonna stop anyone, especially in an emotionally charged state or even wearing a large coat...
“A large coat”
Truly made my day, I’ll be constantly chuckling reliving that comment. Thank you for such a positive dose of humour 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Face shots at close range would work fairly well.
@@rogersmith8339 true...but so would punches, meat cleavers, hammers, flying crockery etc. 🤣 I think people don't realise how of much of an effect adrenaline has in making attackers so much harder to stop.. Or the two gallon of class A's the would be intruder would be on. Deffo not be pleasant for a intruder if one was to begin unloading a series of large ball bearings into someones much!
(Sounded a bit double entendre that... Didn't mean it too!! 🤣)
If it was 12gram I would have had one
A decent pair of safety glasses should be supplied with every pistol!! 🤔
To bad, they could not build a larger version, same Look, Just Bigger and takes 12G CO2 and holds more Rounds. I would not want to be hit by that little Gun .50 Cal OUCH!
Really not keen on these sort of guns. If it was pointed at you in anger you'd have no idea if it was real or not.
What does training for engagement mean. I think it means you'll get a police G36 or similar shoved in your face if you're not careful
Could someone film from outside someone's house ...say Sadiq khan, he likes to film us so we should film him..25 Thrale Road sw16
Good review of an interesting gun with some innovative features, even if it's not for me. I would be very careful with it in the garden, it's powerful enough to cause some damage if you don't dodge the flying balls. Regarding the "HD" controversy; anyone who has seen a decent barrister in full flow knows that they would be like hyenas sniffing fresh blood if anyone shot an intruder with one of these. Thanks for the many reviews over the last few years, I've bought guns because you recommended them, BUT you do turn into a bit of a snowflake whenever anyone disagrees with you.
you clearly don't know how to use "snowflake" properly. it seems like you don't even know what it means in the context you tried to use it.
@@miguelnewmexico8641 thanks for your input
4.5ft lbs if you where to get shot with this it would hurt and that is a fact for all you haters i would like to see you line up and take one in the back saying its feeble is a misunder standing clearly 😂😂😂
pointless stick to the 12g ones cheaper easy to get
pointless gun. For defense? Nope. For fun? Nope.
Nah, it definately seems like a fun little thing to have as a gimmick, lol
self defence if you tune the hell out of it maybe?
And you forgot ugly lol
You wana take a few pepper balls to the face and say that again?
@@moonliteX Not at all. If you want to defend yourself, dont play with something that people can in any way shape or form rub off. la few bruises aint gonna stop many people. only some
Mmmmm.
Not fussed, obviously not intended for the UK market in the first instance. Again has the HD label, leading the unknowning to employ it as named, or even pocket carry it out for personal protection. Last I'd head this earns a 5yr stretch in clink c/o His Highness pleasure.
If they just re marketed it with a different name 🤔
Enjoyed the review, but this won't be joining my collection
The HD stands for “High Definition” video, nothing more sinister than that…stay safe, Andy
Don't see the point in this gun
Gee whiz = proper English
FUGLY FUNKY design