@ yes! I agree with you. It’s harder to find things that don’t sound good. Which is a good thing. I’m curious what it’s like being a beginner in 2024. Is it hard to pick what to get? Or did the internet make it easier.
Zoom 505 was my first multi effect. I still got it and still bust it out now and again. At the very least, it is at least unique in sound instead of just being another 6505, JCM800 or Uberschall VST in a pedal format like most modelers. I like buying up some of these older units just for the fact that they have a distinct sound to them that no one tries to do anymore. The Boss GT-3 is one of the best.
the 505II was my first digital effects unit, and my first anything outside of my old shitty GiO and borrowing my dad's Peavey solid state combo amps growing up. I still want his teal stripe Bandit, for Chainsaw. I want my Eyemaster to violate and desecrate it sweetly... Because Entombed.
The fx50 is still on my pedal board ..you can't replicate the sweet spot right before the boost that get you the crappiest broken tone thats is so awesome in its authenticity 😂
I really wish my DigiTech Death Metal didn't break... as a parallel blend, it was something else. You could dial in a dad rock or buttrock tone on your amp, and splitting the signal with an ABY, use that straight to FOH or through another amp's FX return to fill in the rest, and holy fuck did it work well. Cranking the mids and riding the highs at the right level even got you some chainsaw territory tones... I still have it. Anyone know of cheat pedal repair services in and around Tacoma, WA?
Still rocking the Zoom G1ON into a Cube Baby for the IRs. IMO the G1On, with the MS50G processor inside, is actually kind of a milestone because everything that comes after it is actually good. The MS50G (along with other products from other brands of course) probably cemented the beginning of the "lucky guitarists" era. At the time, the G1ON was considered a tool for beginners, but it's actually quite flexible and, once you learn how to dial a tone that you like, it becomes such a powerful and dependable unit. 10/10
I purchased my first effects processor in 1992. It was the Digitech RP1. It was the only RP model with an effects loop. It was the only model that didn't have amp modeling. Just effects and over drives. I still have it today and use it. I have a Line 6 M5 in the effects loop. Sounds very 80's. Love it!
One thing I do miss about the early days of the internet was the lack of spam or ads. You could dial up to a local BBS or use text based internet tools and just get the information you wanted!
@@wolfheartguitar my first “amp” was a karaoke machine. Had reverb so that’s kinda cool. On a real note though, it had two tape decks, which is probably where I learned about overdubbing and recording guitar parts lol
I ran a Grunge thru a Marshall mini stack back in the late 2000’s. I played my first show with that set up, and I remember getting so many compliments on my sound after our set and I legit just thought people were collectively f**king with me. Like “This sh*t is so cheap, there’s literally no way they can be serious 🧐”
I had both zoom 505 pedals too, first black then the silver 505 2. Of course they were played through a 2x12 wood grain faced crate!! Oh the memories...
Though I can't verify it 100%, it is rumored that Suffocation used a "Korg ToneWorks G1" into the clean channel of a VS8100 for the tones on Pierced from Within.
I remember going to the guitar store in '90 or '91 with a brand-new credit card and getting the Zoom 9002, it was the hottest new thing, and I was blown away at what it could do. Amazing little unit at the time.
I totally agree with your perspective on this. I started playing in the late 90s and worked in a music shop from 1999 to 2001. What is also crazy today, is the amount of tech knowledge you need to have and simultaneously have access to. Back in the day, purchase decisions were made based on word of mouth or a handful of articles in magazines. To be honest, often you didn't really know what you were buying and what you were able to achieve with it. Today, you study at the "TH-cam-Academy", learn every feature and compare to literally every other component before you buy. Fantastic times we live in!
Ah man. That DOD pedal reminds me of the Zoom 505 I used to have (probably the predecessor to that G1). It was never really a usable pedal, but I had fun dicking around with some of the presets. I, too, ran mine into the front of a Crate combo (GX-30M). This kinda makes me want to track down one of those Zooms. I know it would sound like shit, though. I already re-purchased the Crate amp to see how good I could get it to sound. The POD, on the other hand, convinced me that modeling could be viable. For that, I wised up and ran it through a bass amp.
I used to love the digitech rp300 I used to have. Ran that through a crate 15w and made a massive improvement from those old crate distortions. Crazy to how far modelers and sims have come since those days
Dude, I have to tell you that I have the Mack Daddy of that Zoom series. You've got the G1, which I would liken to DigiTech's RP150. Bottom of the line, fo' sho', but still with a killer audio engine. I, though, went all out and got a G9.2tt Guitar Effects Console; this puppy's claim to fame was that it incorporated actual tubes-plural(!) into the signal path. It would have been a killer feature but for the fact that the tube sections' settings were not saved with the patches, which pretty much rendered the tube sections into set-and-forget gimmicks. This Zoom puppy actually sound pretty darn good to me, but once again it doesn't kill any of the other stuff. Can't gig THIS puppy out, though -- it's HUGE! There are full-on guitar amps that weigh less than this thing!
My oldest piece of kit: Zoom PS02 Palm Top Studio. I still use it regularly for silent practice snd pedal testing. I paid $150 used way back in 2002. It's never failed me and it still sounds good.
I started playing electric back in 1995, but I think it was just not the devices availability or the technology behind, it was also a matter of overall information accessibility, specially for a mid class Mexican dude. At some point I stopped looking for tones after going through a million of Harmony Central review pages trying “Metallica Settings” which never worked on my cheap Fender practice amp. I was lucky I lived relatively close to the US border so my family and I used to go shopping there. But even that was hit or miss, luckily a guitar center sales man suggested me a Peavey Bandit 112 red stripe back in 2000, and I got a couple of pedals, nothing fancy, soon after I started gigging and I enjoyed the experience a lot. On the other hand, as soon as TH-cam exploded, I stopped gigging and started hoarding pedals, so, I guess, for me, having more gear now is good but enjoying the one I had back when I gigged was also great.
@@Margilio5150 yeah 100% that’s what I meant when I said statistically half of you have always had access to the internet 😂 not only shopping but just the information aspect of it. And I’d say that didn’t really start popping off until the late 00s!
Definitely bringing back some memories with this one. My first FX unit was a DOD FX7. I dug it out of storage last year and it still worked. Amazing what we thought sounded passable back in the day.
Totally agree, the gear I used and gigged with in 1990, is almost considered as stone age cave man tools compared to what I've brought within the last ten years, as a 50 yo now I'm having the most creative and inspiring guitar riff writing time of my life.🤘🎸🙏
I had the one in the thumbnail but the one attached with the wah pedal on the side. Good old days. Played drum loops from it and played all day and night as i started.
Daaaaamn dude, growing up with that Zoom multi-fx pedal as my only source of distortion and absolutely hating the way it sounded no matter what I did, I feel so validated right now
To whoever edited the video, 3:35 about Kurt Kobain using the grunge pedal. As far as I know he was just trolling everyone by putting it on stage, and telling everyone who asks “how do you make this cool/powerful sound” and Kurt was saying something “of course because of this pedal”. He was using Boss DS-1 and DS-2 into a Marshall stack in the early days.
Nah for the live and loud show mentioned he uses it for endless nameless, radio friendly unit shifter, drain you, rape me, and blew. Once you get past the Nevermind era and into in utero he mostly abandons the DS-1 and DS-2 and goes for a Sansamp 90% of the time with the grunge being used before he brings back the DS-2 for the final European tour.
I was amazed at this thing called the Pandoras Box by Korg back circa 2000. This was the first time I could walk around and play guitar with headphones. Next thing I bought was an HD500x. Now I have twin Stomps on my board. Don't even feel like I need better the only limitation is me with a stomp.
The old Zooms were meant to double as a Rockman and an effects unit that you could gig with - they tried to do both. Some of these, you could even get a TRS to dual TS breakout cable and hook into two amps with stereo effects, like ping pong delay, stereo multi-chorus. The later, higher end G series units had a separate headphone and split stereo jacks, but the lower models still have that shared output - even the Zoom G1XON that I have, or the G1 Four that you had on the channel a few years back.
In 93 I had a crate 100w head, like 4 boss pedals and a set of bullfrog stage monitors. The upgrade to an Ibanez EX was the best sound change I made back then.
the old dial up and early DSL days of the internet were starved for online shopping experiences. I was already playing Counter Strike 1.6 and Source and Guild Wars and downloading Linux ISO's to fuck with on my old hand me down Pentium II laptop, buying computer parts off of Newegg, but I was ordering music gear from catalogs over the phone, or buying in store until... after I graduated high school? Amazon didn't really blow up until '08, '09, and the youngest people in my friends circles from public school and LAN cafes (remember those?) graduated those years, and most people my age graduated in '06 or '07. I had a few friends who were mature for their age that hung out with us that were closer to my little brother's age or halfway between us in age... I am still sad that Sam Ash is out of business.
The internet didn't get common until I was in my 20s. So ya kids have no idea how good they have it. Even recording we had to get creative. We would he using stairs, blankets or whatever we could find to get different sounds. Nowadays kids download a recording program that would be a million dollar studio when I was young. I only had access to books and what other players I just happened to meet to learn ideas from.
@@DreadNovella or how about just following whatever bad advice you heard from a friend because he “heard it from a dude who knows the guy that interned for the guy recorded Slipknot”. It’s crazy to me to think how common that was back then and it almost doesn’t occur at all anymore
I used to hang out with the dudes from UABB in the band they had before UABB back in the early 2000's, and the guitarist had a zoom effects pedal. I thought he was so cool for that.
My first multi back in the day was the korg toneworks. The one with the pressure pedal. I can't remember if the tones were decent, but that pressure pedal was so fukn badass. I'm now doing similar things with pressure sensing midi controllers.
I had a DOD TEC8 which I upgraded to a Digitech RP7 in the 90s. I hated the distortion on the TEC8. That RP7 got me all the way through to the 5150II half stack I picked up in the early 2000s when I was in my early 20s.
I remember when the Digitech RP-1 first came out. We were all hanging out at the band house standing around a table drinking beers after a practice looking through a Musicians Friend magazine and said "Holy crap! Look at that thing!!" 😵
I have the zoom g2 in the closet (wait for it) including the adapter,i had the george lynch signature pedal but lost it in a move years ago,the line6 pod was crazy popular back in the 90s,today i use pedals and an actual crate gt 212 120 watt combo,still turns on and its 20 plus years old
Hi Taylor , My first multieffect was an Ibanez UE300 basicly 3 pedals in one ( compressor/limiter , tube screamer and stereo chorus ) ,all not bad but .... very noisy !!!!! And the second was zoom g2u with expression pedal , sound basicly like the g1 you're testing. With experience and time , i don't use multi effects , i have just a bunch of pedal : the drop pedal , hellbabe wah wah and daddario tuner and that's it ! I have a EVH 5150 iconic 40w Combo with a Hesu demon speaker inside ( i changed the original evh custom speaker for the hesu demon and it's a war machine now !). For me multieffect are good just for delay,reverb ,chorus and sometimes for phaser and flanger things ,but for amp simulation or distorsion it's not the best solution. You should to test some old 2000's amp with modeling sound like : roland cube 20GX , Vox valvetronix , line 6 spider for comparison . i think is interesting to test these to compare with actual modern sound , and try to tune it the best a possible . Thanks for the video . Take Care.
Being a beginner rock guitarist circa 1974, the only real options were fuzz boxes and wahs. Though the rich spoilt show off kid at school might be able to afford a big box tape delay.
For the past three months I am asking Paco from my local music store for 11-52s strings from Elixir. According to him, they're going to " be in by next week". I've heard that 12 times by now. What I haven't heard so far is "Sure, here they are". Shopping local is not always easy 😳The younger generations often don't realize how easy they're having it nowadays, and they are still complaining :)
I think we’re about the same age, but yeah. That DOD was the sound when I walked into Worldwide Music in Raytown, MO. My first modeler was a Digitech something. I used it to practice because with headphones because my apartment had really thin walls. It also had a drum machine.
@ Ha! I remember making fun of that Zoom thing even then. I had a Crate combo and a BOSS DS-2. That combined with my Squier Strat sounded like No Use For A Name and it was good enough for me because I couldn’t afford a Les Paul and a Dual Rectifier.
omg so nostalgic, that remind me my zoom "something" 2006 where punk rock was a thing, god i wish i could have a little bit of knowledge about tone at the time...
I got a Digitech Legend II in 1993, the year they were discontinued. It had great effects, but only one setting with a 10 band GEQ, and it had a sampler looper i just always turned off. The comp Parametric Eq and "Grunge" digital distortion and cab brightness was all it had and never enough gain on the other settings without the 10band GEQ. So I bought this thing, $1500 in 1993 so I could have just found a 5150 or JCM800 for the same price. I gigged with Dillinger Escape Plan and Unearth etc with it through half the 90s but it was lacking....but the noise gate was awesome and scared off the guys who needed to borrow an amp so they usually just took the Cab because it was all sensitive and they didn't know how to control all my gain...... I wish I had gone tube and known I needed more gain pedals to make the local SOVTEK Mig50s in sale.... took my local shop a YEAR to get my black strat in......
My first effect pedal was the digitech rp50, it cost me around 60 back then that was a lot of money for a teenager , now you can get crazy good sounding pedals for that same amount money
Dude shoutout to Beacock's. I've been going there for literally 20 years, and they've been super supportive and knowledgeable since day one. Even when I was a stupid teen playing Sepultura riffs on dad strats on a wednesday after school.
I had a floor pod pro I picked up back in 2009 and I LOVED that thing, like going from the meh OD on my shitty little 30 watt practice amp to that many tone options was sick.
I have a zoom George Lynch pedal that I’m still trying to figure out lol. I’ve gotten okay tones out of it but the effects are better on it than most of the distortions. It dedicated it to my living room rig when I just want to mess around and not fire up a laptop or an amp. The headphone options helps.
Digitech RP70 was the one I had. I kept it over the years. The footswitches don't work so great on it, but it actually sounds okay. I also loved being able to practice with headphones after the family went to bed in 2007. It produced... "distortion" and had "cabinet simulation". Even though it didn't sound as good as todays stuff, I still practiced lots of System of a down and Metallica riffs on it.. so it served its purpose well enough for me! I do see the POD express (knux, matribox...etc) as the new version of "my first multi FX" these days. Simply a plug in and practice device for the next generation of kids that are picking up the guitar for the first time. They don't sound the best, but if you're a kid starting out and it gets you playing, it's money well spent. And hopefully that kid will want to buy an amp or higher quality unit after they get better and save up their money (like we all did in middle school/high school). Cheers \m/ this was a nice trip down memory lane
I think modelling peaked around the 2010's. And now its super small and incremental increase in quality. Around that time you had modellers doing 24bit and 48khz sampling over USB, which is still a standard for most recording interface (yes new stuff can go wayyyy more sampling, but generally engineers don't due to latency/file size vs fidelity. My first "real" modeler was an RP1000, and I still have it to this day. It had 4 cable method (actually 6 because you had a movable fx loop AND amp loop). As well as the ability to bypass cab sim. I still run it and A/B modern plugins, as well as a few of my real tube amps. With my over a decade of experience with it - I can dial them all in to sound AND feal like the real deal. The limitations and showing its age is really in the signal chain. Most modern modelrs (even cheap ones) can do chains of multiple of the same effect, as well as move them in any order. Where as the the RP had a "Fixed" effect chain, though you could get creative if you understood how to use the AMP loop and FX loop. You could do stuff like use the amp loop with real modulation pedals before say a "amp in a box pedal". the FX loop could be moved before and after amp modelling... So again, if you understood it and were creative it was just as flexible as the old stuff. When it comes to accuracy. I have an ibanez TS9 - and I A/B it with the RP s version. The knobs and everything were basically 1:1 perfect. Then I compared the big muff Pi...wasnt even close. So there were hit and misses - though with how full featured the RP1000 is, you could easily find very usable combo. Finally... where all these show their age is the cab sim or "equalizer curve" you mentioned. Because thats essentially how it was handled before. Where a modern IR is a transient response, and the older filtering was just an EQ at the end of the day. If you have an old modeler from back in the day, just like the pod, I challenge you to use it with the cab sims off and run it through modern IR's (plugins or VST).
This was my first pedal too!! I forgot all about it. I worked my first job at 13 bought the pedal then quit the job. This video brought back some memories for sure! After the tec4x I found a metalzone. 😅
Thanks for making this video. I had a similar pedal. Cleans were good but could never get the distorted sounds that I was hoping for. Hoorah for us 90's teens lol
I don't know about the Zoom G1, but the G2Nu that I am currently using you can actually bypass the cab sims! The previous G2 actually had more flexible options, with being able to mix and match cabs, and some microphone options as well! The G2Nu sacrificed some audio quality and flexibility in return for a better screen that makes it much easier to dial it in, and an upgrade to the unit to use it as an audio interface! Perhaps you can do another retro shootout between these or perhaps their top of the line models! \m/
When i got my Boss DS-1 i was sooooo happy. Finally some distortion! Then i got the Boss Chorus pedal. I set up those 2 thru my Fender Sidekick reverb. I had the 2 pedals and the reverb switch lined up on the floor and i had an Ibanez Roadstar 2 ( this is the mid to late 80s and i was like 12-13 yo) i thought i was Alex Lifeson. Our drummer sang thru a boom box with an aux in for the mic. We didnt have a PA or an extra amp. Our "bass" was my old Casio keyboard that we had someone play by writing the notes on the keys and yelling out which notes to play. Ah. Those were the days. He act6became a killer bassist and got a MusicMan. We played weird covers. Huey Lewis and the News, Kiss, Credence Clearwater Rv, Van Halen. Rush, Etc. So fun. We eventually settled on a Queen meets Led Zep original sound. and never looked back. Well, til now. Now i just record as a one man band in Garage Band with all my old decent gear and mics.😅
My very first "multiFX" vas pod2 with 4 Button FS it was awesome...for its Price 100 euros in 2005😮... Buy IT from local small store IT was on Used section then god ridd of and start use boss ME-50 (and still use),GT-6, digitech rp500 line6 pod 500 floodpod jne... Then for while did not use multifx units, only 4 separate pedals, had dual overdrive, Highgain distortion chorus and delay...
Between the DOD and my first modeler the Zoom 2020, I am not sure which one sounds worse. It was a lot of fun an discovery back then but today even the cheapest modeler (like the M-Vave Tank-G) sounds millions time better. But it was the necessary evolution to get were we are.
Bro i came from the digitech rp55's and the pods. I got the cheaper mooer,valeton and sonic cake stuff. Its eons ahead of what i started with.the hx stomp will always be one of my favorites to work with. Next to the fractal fm3. We're in the golden age of music equipment. Irs are a god send
I’m still playing on my POD HD300 … between the built in analog effects and amps/cabs it’s killer I just have my headphones plugged in and jam at night after work. I’ve tried all the plugins with a great interface (universal audio ) and I’ve never liked the sound , doesn’t sound bad it just doesn’t sound warm like my POD. I encourage people to go out and buy used older hardware you would be surprised they are really unique.
I didn't even have a computer until I was 18... Guitar Center didn't open in my town until I was 18-19 years old. Before that, there was Bogner's Sound and Music and they only carried 2 guitar brands and did have a few pedals but I was also dirt poor in the 90s- early 2000s, so, I didn't have any money for gear. I only ever bought the Black Coffee Danelectro pedal from them and it sucked! I didn't have any good sounds until I bought a Behringer GMX212 combo amp from Elderly's music in Lansing, Michigan in 2001. That amp had, what was essentially a built-in Sans Amp, so I was able to dial in some killer tones. I had the Metallica "...And Justice For All" tone, dialed in!
I had the problem with the clean di sound not being taken out of the soldano slo100 setting on the pod 500hd and when i quad tracked it thd di sound was louder than anything
Taylor, m' dog, that DOD ain't the worst. I had the worst. It was a Zoom 503 Amp Simulator. It was a hot mess. Some years later, it did me the favor of having its output jack go bad, so I bought a DigiTech RP250 for a birthday present to myself. I have other stuff as well (and I sold the 250 after buying first an RP350, THEN a 355, truth to tell), but I still rock that DigiTech stuff from time to time. I bought another modeler for a birthday gift THIS year, and I can't say it sounds better than the old stuff. Different, so not a waste, but not really better. Were I to play out, though, I'd almost certainly use the new unit -- which I can control with my phone, while the old stuff requires a computer. Now, I don't know how long ANY of my older gear will last before crapping out, but until it does it still rocks REALLY, REALLY HARD!🤘
That TEC4X sounds kinda lo-fi. 😀 My first multi-FX was a DigiTech RP50 which came out in 2002 I think? It sounded kinda bad by current standards for digital, but actually had a decent set of effects in it and I did learn a lot and had fun, so, great! Not that it mattered because my amp sounded terrible too and my guitar was a $50 special!
Im from Cuba, born in 1985, we didn't have internet in our phones till 2017, there was only internet access at 2000 in very few places like some universities. There was also, there's still none! music shops! My first amp/pedal/distortion thing was a soviet radio that I plugged my guitar in, I think through a rca cable... the guitar was also soviet, awful instrument super hard to play that would leave me with sore fingers! Now I own a Quad Cortex: sometimes I get frustrated cuz I can't get an specific tone, but then I remember my soviet radio amp and guitar and my tone in my Cortex gets super duper nice!
The DOD grunge sat on Kurt's board because he found it funny according to some vids about the pedal I just watched and probably got this vid recommended to me. Reportedly it wasn't used on recordings or live play outside of the occasional guitar breaking show end chaos.
We're even lucky to the point where if we miss the sounds of those units, there are very likely free NAM or ToneX profiles of them out there 😅 Not to mention that free red bean POD Vst that somebody released as an April Fools!
Just an idea.. no closet doors... spatter those axes as eyes candy on the wall behind you... Iron that rolled up poster!! Thx dude. Couldn't help myself.
Damn what a coincidence, I've been buying up old modelers to make a similar video. Have the Zoom 505 & Digitech RP50 coming in the mail tomorrow, and need to order a power supply for my Pod Bean
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I think having less options is better for people’s sanity. lol. Option paralysis is very real.
@@wheresallthezombies valid argument to be had there!
Option Paralysis is a great album
Yeah but when all the options sound good....
@ yes! I agree with you. It’s harder to find things that don’t sound good. Which is a good thing. I’m curious what it’s like being a beginner in 2024. Is it hard to pick what to get? Or did the internet make it easier.
It's only real for those that lack focus and discipline. It's actually just an illusion. A self imposed mind prison.
Zoom 505 was my first multi effect. I still got it and still bust it out now and again. At the very least, it is at least unique in sound instead of just being another 6505, JCM800 or Uberschall VST in a pedal format like most modelers.
I like buying up some of these older units just for the fact that they have a distinct sound to them that no one tries to do anymore. The Boss GT-3 is one of the best.
I don't remember ever having those fancy Zoom G1 pedals. It was always the old 505.
I had the 1010 😂 nostalgia
the 505II was my first digital effects unit, and my first anything outside of my old shitty GiO and borrowing my dad's Peavey solid state combo amps growing up. I still want his teal stripe Bandit, for Chainsaw. I want my Eyemaster to violate and desecrate it sweetly... Because Entombed.
the 707. and the digitech rp200
Dude, You forgot about the Ol' Skool DOD Death Metal Pedal. Being from Florida, everybody had one
@@SchenkersAudioMadness hell no I didn’t forget about it! I still have mine 😂💪💪💪🥳
I can also acknowledge everyone in FL had one... Very true.
and if we didn't, we got the DigiTech version. Florida Metal FTW. 954, bitches!!! Fort LAUDY!!! Fort LIQUORDALE LMAO
The fx50 is still on my pedal board ..you can't replicate the sweet spot right before the boost that get you the crappiest broken tone thats is so awesome in its authenticity 😂
I really wish my DigiTech Death Metal didn't break... as a parallel blend, it was something else. You could dial in a dad rock or buttrock tone on your amp, and splitting the signal with an ABY, use that straight to FOH or through another amp's FX return to fill in the rest, and holy fuck did it work well. Cranking the mids and riding the highs at the right level even got you some chainsaw territory tones... I still have it. Anyone know of cheat pedal repair services in and around Tacoma, WA?
Still rocking the Zoom G1ON into a Cube Baby for the IRs. IMO the G1On, with the MS50G processor inside, is actually kind of a milestone because everything that comes after it is actually good. The MS50G (along with other products from other brands of course) probably cemented the beginning of the "lucky guitarists" era. At the time, the G1ON was considered a tool for beginners, but it's actually quite flexible and, once you learn how to dial a tone that you like, it becomes such a powerful and dependable unit. 10/10
I purchased my first effects processor in 1992. It was the Digitech RP1. It was the only RP model with an effects loop. It was the only model that didn't have amp modeling. Just effects and over drives. I still have it today and use it. I have a Line 6 M5 in the effects loop. Sounds very 80's. Love it!
One thing I do miss about the early days of the internet was the lack of spam or ads. You could dial up to a local BBS or use text based internet tools and just get the information you wanted!
@@retropuffer2986 that’s true, but it also came at snail speeds. So even though the ads are annoying , you probably get the information faster now
Amazing story. I didn't even had a tuner 😂😂😂 and my "amp" was my dads sony stereo that had a jack input
@@wolfheartguitar my first “amp” was a karaoke machine. Had reverb so that’s kinda cool. On a real note though, it had two tape decks, which is probably where I learned about overdubbing and recording guitar parts lol
Yeah kids these days, man. I remember how thrilled I was to have a POD 2.0.
The old zoom fx boxes lololol
I ran a Grunge thru a Marshall mini stack back in the late 2000’s. I played my first show with that set up, and I remember getting so many compliments on my sound after our set and I legit just thought people were collectively f**king with me. Like “This sh*t is so cheap, there’s literally no way they can be serious 🧐”
I had both zoom 505 pedals too, first black then the silver 505 2. Of course they were played through a 2x12 wood grain faced crate!! Oh the memories...
Though I can't verify it 100%, it is rumored that Suffocation used a "Korg ToneWorks G1" into the clean channel of a VS8100 for the tones on Pierced from Within.
I remember going to the guitar store in '90 or '91 with a brand-new credit card and getting the Zoom 9002, it was the hottest new thing, and I was blown away at what it could do. Amazing little unit at the time.
I still have my Zoom 9000.
My first pedal was the DOD grunge. Then moved to a full pedalboard with all Arion pedals. Metal Master, chorus, delay, phaser, flanger
It's so true. All I had was a killer tube Amp, Metal Zone, Overdrive, Crybaby and an awesome Jackson Dinky. We had nothing back then.
I totally agree with your perspective on this. I started playing in the late 90s and worked in a music shop from 1999 to 2001. What is also crazy today, is the amount of tech knowledge you need to have and simultaneously have access to.
Back in the day, purchase decisions were made based on word of mouth or a handful of articles in magazines. To be honest, often you didn't really know what you were buying and what you were able to achieve with it. Today, you study at the "TH-cam-Academy", learn every feature and compare to literally every other component before you buy. Fantastic times we live in!
Absolutely. Wanted to comment this, but then I read what I wrote and it was redudant to your comment.
Ah man. That DOD pedal reminds me of the Zoom 505 I used to have (probably the predecessor to that G1). It was never really a usable pedal, but I had fun dicking around with some of the presets. I, too, ran mine into the front of a Crate combo (GX-30M).
This kinda makes me want to track down one of those Zooms. I know it would sound like shit, though. I already re-purchased the Crate amp to see how good I could get it to sound.
The POD, on the other hand, convinced me that modeling could be viable. For that, I wised up and ran it through a bass amp.
I still use and love my ZOOM G1... I run it through some EQ and compression and it sounds thick AF
I used to love the digitech rp300 I used to have. Ran that through a crate 15w and made a massive improvement from those old crate distortions. Crazy to how far modelers and sims have come since those days
Dude, I have to tell you that I have the Mack Daddy of that Zoom series. You've got the G1, which I would liken to DigiTech's RP150. Bottom of the line, fo' sho', but still with a killer audio engine. I, though, went all out and got a G9.2tt Guitar Effects Console; this puppy's claim to fame was that it incorporated actual tubes-plural(!) into the signal path. It would have been a killer feature but for the fact that the tube sections' settings were not saved with the patches, which pretty much rendered the tube sections into set-and-forget gimmicks. This Zoom puppy actually sound pretty darn good to me, but once again it doesn't kill any of the other stuff. Can't gig THIS puppy out, though -- it's HUGE! There are full-on guitar amps that weigh less than this thing!
My oldest piece of kit: Zoom PS02 Palm Top Studio.
I still use it regularly for silent practice snd pedal testing. I paid $150 used way back in 2002. It's never failed me and it still sounds good.
I started playing electric back in 1995, but I think it was just not the devices availability or the technology behind, it was also a matter of overall information accessibility, specially for a mid class Mexican dude. At some point I stopped looking for tones after going through a million of Harmony Central review pages trying “Metallica Settings” which never worked on my cheap Fender practice amp.
I was lucky I lived relatively close to the US border so my family and I used to go shopping there. But even that was hit or miss, luckily a guitar center sales man suggested me a Peavey Bandit 112 red stripe back in 2000, and I got a couple of pedals, nothing fancy, soon after I started gigging and I enjoyed the experience a lot.
On the other hand, as soon as TH-cam exploded, I stopped gigging and started hoarding pedals, so, I guess, for me, having more gear now is good but enjoying the one I had back when I gigged was also great.
@@Margilio5150 yeah 100% that’s what I meant when I said statistically half of you have always had access to the internet 😂 not only shopping but just the information aspect of it. And I’d say that didn’t really start popping off until the late 00s!
@@Margilio5150 the Bandit red stripe is great!
Definitely bringing back some memories with this one. My first FX unit was a DOD FX7. I dug it out of storage last year and it still worked. Amazing what we thought sounded passable back in the day.
Totally agree, the gear I used and gigged with in 1990, is almost considered as stone age cave man tools compared to what I've brought within the last ten years, as a 50 yo now I'm having the most creative and inspiring guitar riff writing time of my life.🤘🎸🙏
I had the one in the thumbnail but the one attached with the wah pedal on the side. Good old days. Played drum loops from it and played all day and night as i started.
Daaaaamn dude, growing up with that Zoom multi-fx pedal as my only source of distortion and absolutely hating the way it sounded no matter what I did, I feel so validated right now
The DOD TEC8 Grunge has more flexibility in the EQ and effects.
To whoever edited the video, 3:35 about Kurt Kobain using the grunge pedal. As far as I know he was just trolling everyone by putting it on stage, and telling everyone who asks “how do you make this cool/powerful sound” and Kurt was saying something “of course because of this pedal”. He was using Boss DS-1 and DS-2 into a Marshall stack in the early days.
@@johnnyphoney5669 that makes sense actually, he seems like a pre internet troll 😂
Nah for the live and loud show mentioned he uses it for endless nameless, radio friendly unit shifter, drain you, rape me, and blew.
Once you get past the Nevermind era and into in utero he mostly abandons the DS-1 and DS-2 and goes for a Sansamp 90% of the time with the grunge being used before he brings back the DS-2 for the final European tour.
Kurt did use the Grunge pedal. It was NOT just a joke.
Wrong.
I was amazed at this thing called the Pandoras Box by Korg back circa 2000. This was the first time I could walk around and play guitar with headphones. Next thing I bought was an HD500x. Now I have twin Stomps on my board. Don't even feel like I need better the only limitation is me with a stomp.
The old Zooms were meant to double as a Rockman and an effects unit that you could gig with - they tried to do both. Some of these, you could even get a TRS to dual TS breakout cable and hook into two amps with stereo effects, like ping pong delay, stereo multi-chorus. The later, higher end G series units had a separate headphone and split stereo jacks, but the lower models still have that shared output - even the Zoom G1XON that I have, or the G1 Four that you had on the channel a few years back.
In 93 I had a crate 100w head, like 4 boss pedals and a set of bullfrog stage monitors. The upgrade to an Ibanez EX was the best sound change I made back then.
the old dial up and early DSL days of the internet were starved for online shopping experiences. I was already playing Counter Strike 1.6 and Source and Guild Wars and downloading Linux ISO's to fuck with on my old hand me down Pentium II laptop, buying computer parts off of Newegg, but I was ordering music gear from catalogs over the phone, or buying in store until... after I graduated high school? Amazon didn't really blow up until '08, '09, and the youngest people in my friends circles from public school and LAN cafes (remember those?) graduated those years, and most people my age graduated in '06 or '07. I had a few friends who were mature for their age that hung out with us that were closer to my little brother's age or halfway between us in age...
I am still sad that Sam Ash is out of business.
The internet didn't get common until I was in my 20s. So ya kids have no idea how good they have it. Even recording we had to get creative. We would he using stairs, blankets or whatever we could find to get different sounds. Nowadays kids download a recording program that would be a million dollar studio when I was young. I only had access to books and what other players I just happened to meet to learn ideas from.
@@DreadNovella or how about just following whatever bad advice you heard from a friend because he “heard it from a dude who knows the guy that interned for the guy recorded Slipknot”. It’s crazy to me to think how common that was back then and it almost doesn’t occur at all anymore
I know, I remember before TH-cam even hahaha
I used to hang out with the dudes from UABB in the band they had before UABB back in the early 2000's, and the guitarist had a zoom effects pedal. I thought he was so cool for that.
Much love for the original POD! This and a cheap audio interface were my first steps into home recording.
Dude Zoom 505,606 and 707 were the real deals....Zoom stuff got really good from the G2/B2 onwards
My first multi back in the day was the korg toneworks. The one with the pressure pedal. I can't remember if the tones were decent, but that pressure pedal was so fukn badass. I'm now doing similar things with pressure sensing midi controllers.
Suggestion, make a pedalboard from the 90's! What does a 15yr old in the 90s sound like with old pedals and an okd combo.
I had a DOD TEC8 which I upgraded to a Digitech RP7 in the 90s. I hated the distortion on the TEC8. That RP7 got me all the way through to the 5150II half stack I picked up in the early 2000s when I was in my early 20s.
I remember when the Digitech RP-1 first came out. We were all hanging out at the band house standing around a table drinking beers after a practice looking through a Musicians Friend magazine and said "Holy crap! Look at that thing!!" 😵
I have the zoom g2 in the closet (wait for it) including the adapter,i had the george lynch signature pedal but lost it in a move years ago,the line6 pod was crazy popular back in the 90s,today i use pedals and an actual crate gt 212 120 watt combo,still turns on and its 20 plus years old
The zoom was my first multi efx pedal. As a broke college student, it was a great investment as I did not have the money to get individual pedals!
I had a Digitech RP150! Thought it was so sick! Played many high school battle of the bands with that bad boy plugged into the blue Crate combo amp
Hi Taylor ,
My first multieffect was an Ibanez UE300 basicly 3 pedals in one ( compressor/limiter , tube screamer and stereo chorus ) ,all not bad but .... very noisy !!!!!
And the second was zoom g2u with expression pedal , sound basicly like the g1 you're testing.
With experience and time , i don't use multi effects , i have just a bunch of pedal : the drop pedal , hellbabe wah wah and daddario tuner and that's it !
I have a EVH 5150 iconic 40w Combo with a Hesu demon speaker inside ( i changed the original evh custom speaker for the hesu demon and it's a war machine now !).
For me multieffect are good just for delay,reverb ,chorus and sometimes for phaser and flanger things ,but for amp simulation or distorsion it's not the best solution.
You should to test some old 2000's amp with modeling sound like : roland cube 20GX , Vox valvetronix , line 6 spider for comparison .
i think is interesting to test these to compare with actual modern sound , and try to tune it the best a possible .
Thanks for the video .
Take Care.
Being a beginner rock guitarist circa 1974, the only real options were fuzz boxes and wahs. Though the rich spoilt show off kid at school might be able to afford a big box tape delay.
I still use that zoom on my DI boxes hahah. I love my 2008 G1X
Beacocks in Vancouver Wa!!! Got my first guitar there in 1984 !!!
Est. In 1988 over here... I'm old AF too brother.
@@mattkiser3997 💪👴
i still have my zoom 3030, might have to take it out of storage for a bit of fun 🤘i remember being so happy when i finally got it
It was always fun to go to a small guitar shop to look and see the gear they had. Thanku for ur video sir!!!
For the past three months I am asking Paco from my local music store for 11-52s strings from Elixir. According to him, they're going to " be in by next week".
I've heard that 12 times by now. What I haven't heard so far is "Sure, here they are".
Shopping local is not always easy 😳The younger generations often don't realize how easy they're having it nowadays, and they are still complaining :)
I think we’re about the same age, but yeah. That DOD was the sound when I walked into Worldwide Music in Raytown, MO. My first modeler was a Digitech something. I used it to practice because with headphones because my apartment had really thin walls. It also had a drum machine.
@@troyfrink oh man drum machines were game changers back then, even though I totally made fun of it in this video, it was truly, a “game changer” 😂
@ Ha! I remember making fun of that Zoom thing even then. I had a Crate combo and a BOSS DS-2. That combined with my Squier Strat sounded like No Use For A Name and it was good enough for me because I couldn’t afford a Les Paul and a Dual Rectifier.
omg so nostalgic, that remind me my zoom "something" 2006 where punk rock was a thing, god i wish i could have a little bit of knowledge about tone at the time...
I had a DOD VGS50 even back then I thought it didn't sound great. Now, the default in any Neural plug in sounds infinitely better.
I got a Digitech Legend II in 1993, the year they were discontinued. It had great effects, but only one setting with a 10 band GEQ, and it had a sampler looper i just always turned off. The comp Parametric Eq and "Grunge" digital distortion and cab brightness was all it had and never enough gain on the other settings without the 10band GEQ. So I bought this thing, $1500 in 1993 so I could have just found a 5150 or JCM800 for the same price. I gigged with Dillinger Escape Plan and Unearth etc with it through half the 90s but it was lacking....but the noise gate was awesome and scared off the guys who needed to borrow an amp so they usually just took the Cab because it was all sensitive and they didn't know how to control all my gain...... I wish I had gone tube and known I needed more gain pedals to make the local SOVTEK Mig50s in sale.... took my local shop a YEAR to get my black strat in......
In my home town there was a single anemic guitar store. All I could get was either Metalzone or Zoom G2.
Well, I chose Zoom G2.
My first gig was a Zoom G2.1u in too the P.A. It was fine for me but probably I didn’t even put the Cab sim on for that show 🤣
My first effect pedal was the digitech rp50, it cost me around 60 back then that was a lot of money for a teenager , now you can get crazy good sounding pedals for that same amount money
Dude shoutout to Beacock's. I've been going there for literally 20 years, and they've been super supportive and knowledgeable since day one.
Even when I was a stupid teen playing Sepultura riffs on dad strats on a wednesday after school.
I had a floor pod pro I picked up back in 2009 and I LOVED that thing, like going from the meh OD on my shitty little 30 watt practice amp to that many tone options was sick.
I bought a Zoom 505 and a 505 II back in the day. I still have my Zoom GM-200 and just can't seem to let go of my Johnson J Station.
I have a zoom George Lynch pedal that I’m still trying to figure out lol. I’ve gotten okay tones out of it but the effects are better on it than most of the distortions. It dedicated it to my living room rig when I just want to mess around and not fire up a laptop or an amp. The headphone options helps.
Digitech RP70 was the one I had. I kept it over the years. The footswitches don't work so great on it, but it actually sounds okay. I also loved being able to practice with headphones after the family went to bed in 2007. It produced... "distortion" and had "cabinet simulation". Even though it didn't sound as good as todays stuff, I still practiced lots of System of a down and Metallica riffs on it.. so it served its purpose well enough for me!
I do see the POD express (knux, matribox...etc) as the new version of "my first multi FX" these days. Simply a plug in and practice device for the next generation of kids that are picking up the guitar for the first time. They don't sound the best, but if you're a kid starting out and it gets you playing, it's money well spent. And hopefully that kid will want to buy an amp or higher quality unit after they get better and save up their money (like we all did in middle school/high school).
Cheers \m/ this was a nice trip down memory lane
The old musicians friend catalog was 🔥
I think modelling peaked around the 2010's. And now its super small and incremental increase in quality. Around that time you had modellers doing 24bit and 48khz sampling over USB, which is still a standard for most recording interface (yes new stuff can go wayyyy more sampling, but generally engineers don't due to latency/file size vs fidelity.
My first "real" modeler was an RP1000, and I still have it to this day. It had 4 cable method (actually 6 because you had a movable fx loop AND amp loop). As well as the ability to bypass cab sim. I still run it and A/B modern plugins, as well as a few of my real tube amps. With my over a decade of experience with it - I can dial them all in to sound AND feal like the real deal. The limitations and showing its age is really in the signal chain. Most modern modelrs (even cheap ones) can do chains of multiple of the same effect, as well as move them in any order. Where as the the RP had a "Fixed" effect chain, though you could get creative if you understood how to use the AMP loop and FX loop. You could do stuff like use the amp loop with real modulation pedals before say a "amp in a box pedal". the FX loop could be moved before and after amp modelling... So again, if you understood it and were creative it was just as flexible as the old stuff.
When it comes to accuracy. I have an ibanez TS9 - and I A/B it with the RP
s version. The knobs and everything were basically 1:1 perfect. Then I compared the big muff Pi...wasnt even close. So there were hit and misses - though with how full featured the RP1000 is, you could easily find very usable combo.
Finally... where all these show their age is the cab sim or "equalizer curve" you mentioned. Because thats essentially how it was handled before. Where a modern IR is a transient response, and the older filtering was just an EQ at the end of the day. If you have an old modeler from back in the day, just like the pod, I challenge you to use it with the cab sims off and run it through modern IR's (plugins or VST).
This was my first pedal too!! I forgot all about it. I worked my first job at 13 bought the pedal then quit the job. This video brought back some memories for sure! After the tec4x I found a metalzone. 😅
Back in 2002 I got a triple rectifier and ran it on the clean channel with a digitech multifx cuz I didn't know how to dial the amp in
my cousin had the zoom g1xn and I remember that multi effects being the coolest thing I've ever since when I was a kid
My very 1st multi-fx processor was a DOD TR3M..good luck finding one of those! My 2nd was a Zoom 505II which I still have.
Thanks for making this video. I had a similar pedal. Cleans were good but could never get the distorted sounds that I was hoping for. Hoorah for us 90's teens lol
Hey Taylor 🤘🤛🇨🇦🎸 started with a zoom 505. Felt like a rock god with that thing through a peavey combo. Boom 🤘🤘🤘
I don't know about the Zoom G1, but the G2Nu that I am currently using you can actually bypass the cab sims! The previous G2 actually had more flexible options, with being able to mix and match cabs, and some microphone options as well! The G2Nu sacrificed some audio quality and flexibility in return for a better screen that makes it much easier to dial it in, and an upgrade to the unit to use it as an audio interface! Perhaps you can do another retro shootout between these or perhaps their top of the line models! \m/
When i got my Boss DS-1 i was sooooo happy. Finally some distortion! Then i got the Boss Chorus pedal. I set up those 2 thru my Fender Sidekick reverb. I had the 2 pedals and the reverb switch lined up on the floor and i had an Ibanez Roadstar 2 ( this is the mid to late 80s and i was like 12-13 yo) i thought i was Alex Lifeson. Our drummer sang thru a boom box with an aux in for the mic. We didnt have a PA or an extra amp. Our "bass" was my old Casio keyboard that we had someone play by writing the notes on the keys and yelling out which notes to play. Ah. Those were the days. He act6became a killer bassist and got a MusicMan. We played weird covers. Huey Lewis and the News, Kiss, Credence Clearwater Rv, Van Halen. Rush, Etc. So fun. We eventually settled on a Queen meets Led Zep original sound. and never looked back. Well, til now. Now i just record as a one man band in Garage Band with all my old decent gear and mics.😅
@@Gee-no yeah sometimes I forget just having distortion was kind of a treat 😂
My very first "multiFX" vas pod2 with 4 Button FS it was awesome...for its Price 100 euros in 2005😮... Buy IT from local small store IT was on Used section then god ridd of and start use boss ME-50 (and still use),GT-6, digitech rp500 line6 pod 500 floodpod jne... Then for while did not use multifx units, only 4 separate pedals, had dual overdrive, Highgain distortion chorus and delay...
Between the DOD and my first modeler the Zoom 2020, I am not sure which one sounds worse. It was a lot of fun an discovery back then but today even the cheapest modeler (like the M-Vave Tank-G) sounds millions time better. But it was the necessary evolution to get were we are.
@@jcugnoni that’s true! All part of the process! Kids these days just don’t understand 🤣👴
Bro i came from the digitech rp55's and the pods. I got the cheaper mooer,valeton and sonic cake stuff. Its eons ahead of what i started with.the hx stomp will always be one of my favorites to work with. Next to the fractal fm3. We're in the golden age of music equipment. Irs are a god send
Holy shit the DOD Grunge is so on point, like, wow...
My first pedal Zoom 505II,… and Danelectro Black Coffee
That Tec4 has brought back a lot of disappointing memories of trying to get anything likeable to come out of it
I’m still playing on my POD HD300 … between the built in analog effects and amps/cabs it’s killer I just have my headphones plugged in and jam at night after work. I’ve tried all the plugins with a great interface (universal audio ) and I’ve never liked the sound , doesn’t sound bad it just doesn’t sound warm like my POD. I encourage people to go out and buy used older hardware you would be surprised they are really unique.
The zoom drum machine gave me flashbacks 😮
I didn't even have a computer until I was 18... Guitar Center didn't open in my town until I was 18-19 years old. Before that, there was Bogner's Sound and Music and they only carried 2 guitar brands and did have a few pedals but I was also dirt poor in the 90s- early 2000s, so, I didn't have any money for gear. I only ever bought the Black Coffee Danelectro pedal from them and it sucked! I didn't have any good sounds until I bought a Behringer GMX212 combo amp from Elderly's music in Lansing, Michigan in 2001. That amp had, what was essentially a built-in Sans Amp, so I was able to dial in some killer tones. I had the Metallica "...And Justice For All" tone, dialed in!
That might be your greatest thumbnail yet
@@BÜbLars thank you, I spent a lot of time on it 😂
I had the problem with the clean di sound not being taken out of the soldano slo100 setting on the pod 500hd and when i quad tracked it thd di sound was louder than anything
The only things i own to this day are
Mid 90's cheap Mocking bird copy from Transfer
DOD Tec 8
DOD Punkifier FX76 1997 pedal
Taylor, m' dog, that DOD ain't the worst. I had the worst. It was a Zoom 503 Amp Simulator. It was a hot mess. Some years later, it did me the favor of having its output jack go bad, so I bought a DigiTech RP250 for a birthday present to myself. I have other stuff as well (and I sold the 250 after buying first an RP350, THEN a 355, truth to tell), but I still rock that DigiTech stuff from time to time. I bought another modeler for a birthday gift THIS year, and I can't say it sounds better than the old stuff. Different, so not a waste, but not really better. Were I to play out, though, I'd almost certainly use the new unit -- which I can control with my phone, while the old stuff requires a computer. Now, I don't know how long ANY of my older gear will last before crapping out, but until it does it still rocks REALLY, REALLY HARD!🤘
The Dod Tech 4 without the effects did not sound too bad!I bet with a EQ pedal you could get it sounding better!
That TEC4X sounds kinda lo-fi. 😀 My first multi-FX was a DigiTech RP50 which came out in 2002 I think? It sounded kinda bad by current standards for digital, but actually had a decent set of effects in it and I did learn a lot and had fun, so, great! Not that it mattered because my amp sounded terrible too and my guitar was a $50 special!
My fm3 turbo has so many options it’s disturbing. I remember playing a zoom 505 into a fender hot rod deluxe 410. That was my first amp. 25 years ago.
Im from Cuba, born in 1985, we didn't have internet in our phones till 2017, there was only internet access at 2000 in very few places like some universities. There was also, there's still none! music shops! My first amp/pedal/distortion thing was a soviet radio that I plugged my guitar in, I think through a rca cable... the guitar was also soviet, awful instrument super hard to play that would leave me with sore fingers! Now I own a Quad Cortex: sometimes I get frustrated cuz I can't get an specific tone, but then I remember my soviet radio amp and guitar and my tone in my Cortex gets super duper nice!
I started playing in 1990. I can relate to this
The DOD grunge sat on Kurt's board because he found it funny according to some vids about the pedal I just watched and probably got this vid recommended to me. Reportedly it wasn't used on recordings or live play outside of the occasional guitar breaking show end chaos.
We're even lucky to the point where if we miss the sounds of those units, there are very likely free NAM or ToneX profiles of them out there 😅
Not to mention that free red bean POD Vst that somebody released as an April Fools!
Just an idea.. no closet doors... spatter those axes as eyes candy on the wall behind you... Iron that rolled up poster!! Thx dude. Couldn't help myself.
Andy timons record cry for you with the line 6 red kidney thing and is a hit to this day
Zoom 505II gang here! I’ve probably owned three or four at different times over the years. Always fun to bust out and still some fun swirly cleans.
Damn what a coincidence, I've been buying up old modelers to make a similar video. Have the Zoom 505 & Digitech RP50 coming in the mail tomorrow, and need to order a power supply for my Pod Bean
Chris Poland did use a Rockman directly into a Marshall on Peace Sells, so they do have some use... 😂
That dod pedal has some cool effects