BEST All in ONE SCREWDRIVER - Klein vs Milwaukee
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- Can you really replace your screwdrivers with a SINGLE ALL IN ONE? You can if it's one of these! See what makes these the best multifunction drivers on the market & which could be right for you.
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Robertson is the name of the square drive, used mainly by electricians. I actually have that Milwaukee model, love it, lol.
Klein also makes a 15 in 1 ratcheting as well. Klein Tools 32305
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I've had a few different Klein tools and always liked their quality. I already like this Klein screwdriver over the Milwaukee from this video. A ratcheting screwdriver does nothing for me, having used a regular one so much that it's actually faster most of the time. I really like that the Klein holds normal bits.
The ratcheting screwdriver is only useful if you have a bunch of screws that don't have much resistance.
@@billythygoat If there's little or no resistance, it's faster with a regular screwdriver because I can spin it with my fingertips. If there's resistance, the ratcheting only helps if the device is really tight, otherwise I waste time and motion with slop in the mechanism.
I've had that Milwaukee for years and really like it.
Only downside is that the bits can be VERY hard to remove, though I think they fixed this in newer models. I'm talking you have to find whichever bit is loosest, push that one out, then use that bit to push out the stuck bit you actually want.
Same problem with Milwaukee's mini version of this ratcheting screwdriver, so I know it's not just my copy.
does the mini version also have a lot of play from side to side?
Put wd 40 in the slots once a week
I do like both Klein and Milwaukee for tools, but the best screw driver for I have found is the Ideal Electrical 35-988 ratcheting nut driver/ screwdriver. I have been using this model screw driver for about 15 years in my service tool kit daily and I would be lost without it! In fact I keep a brand new back up one in case I lose or misplace mine. Just my two cents!
Thanks for putting out great videos!
is that better than Klein and Milwaukee?
Picquic screwdrivers blow away the competition for value and performance imo.
I've just got the Picquic six pack and Picquic stubby set.
Fantastic tools.
Wanted to mention another solid choice in an All-in-One screwdrivers- the AutoLoader Auto-Loading Multi-Bit Screwdriver by Franklin Tool Company. I kept one in the Kitchen junk drawer for years and it has proven invaluable for me as well as my Family. It holds six 1/4" bits and they store in a chamber inside the handle, you extend the handle. rotate the chamber to the desired bit, push the handle back and the bit is automatically loaded in the magnetic holder. You can replace the bits when they wear over time or customize to your liking.
I recently purchased their Precision Autoloader which is a smaller driver that holds six Microbits which is great for eyeglasses, kids toys, electronics, as well as Firearm and Knife work.They hold and store my Wiha Micobits just fine as well.
Vat19 has both models available...currently on back order though.
The Klein 14 in 1 screwdrivers bit holder does not fit into narrow recessed screw holes, thus when disassembling equipment it's uselessness... The Milwaukees long shaft bits work in all scenarios ... I no longer carry the Klein for that very reason.
ABSOLUTELY agree…..As a maintenance technician….I don’t think I could live without this screwdriver…..the long bits are ssssooooo nice in fitting in holes
I like picquic
Exactly. Also, all the bit work in an impact.
Klein 15-1 for the win. Ratcheting screwdriver is really nice.
I have the Milwuakee, love it. I first got rid of square drive, but later added back on because I use that bit as a punch. Also the bits are in there very strong. I sometimes have to use another bit to push it out.
Always a great video 👍good job
The base on the Klein also makes for a great palm pivot. Keeps it stationary with minimal friction while you turn the rest of the driver.
That's a great point!
The Same Milwaukee tool but short version is my go to. You would love it.
One good attribute of the more basic version of an all-in-one driver such as the Greenlee shown at 0:14 in your video, is that they can have three different nut driver sizes in that shaft. I use those all the time when dealing with small sheet metal screws and hose clamps, etc.
None of these are perfect for all conditions, but some work better than others. I have several, and use them for different applications. I like that Klein version. That Milwaukee with the long driver bits will have an issue when you break or lose one of the bits. That style is harder to find than the shorter replacements. Also, I can't say that I have ever really needed the ratcheting feature, but I do have at least one multi-driver with it.
I agree. That's why I haven't given up my 11-1 magnetic Klein. Specifically for the various nut drivers. As an apartment maintenance tech, that tool has been extremely versatile for me. Can go from removing garbage disposal to removing nuts from a condenser unit within the same hour.
@@noelv1976 I completely agree. Additionally, I think the older ones make better chisels than the ratcheting ones.
I tried these 2 and 3 others about a yr ago. Settled on the wera. Ending up liking it so much i’ve bought 2 more.
That Klein is fantastic. The flip bit screwdrivers have no way to get replacement or alternate bits. So if you break or wear out the one you use most, the whole tool is now junk. Taking standard 1/4 inch hex bits is a big advantage. If you lose/break/wear out a bit, or just want different ones, you can swap with other standard 1 inch long bits, or use them in an impact driver with a bit holder, which the shank on that Klein is. The 1 inch long bits will also give some tip magnetism from the holder. Even more utility can be added with the 7-in-1 impact flip socket kit on the Klein, giving 6 common nut driver sizes. That puts 13 bits, 6 nut driver sizes, you can still shorten it down if needed, and can all be used on an impact driver.
I have the milwaukee and I like that I can pull the bits and make use of the length in my drill
I was surprised to see how useful that is. Just makes it more versatile
I've used multifunction drivers like the Klein tool. They are great, but the worst feature is where the bit inserts. Several times, the socket has been too big to fit where I needed it to go.
I want the milwaukee and klein to have a baby with long bits that have the grooves to adjust the length
Klein makes one. I believe it’s an 8 in 1 stubby
Very good information to know Keep up the good work 😉
Milwaukee tools are great but when it comes to doing electrical work, klein still reigns as the champ. I own both screwdrivers in this video as I use them for different applications. But my kleins get used much more often. Klein has a ratcheting 15 in 1 that does 90% of what I need it to do. For the rare times I need something more, I turn to the klein 27 in 1.
i have the milwaukee and i hate it. It's so back heavy and unbalanced. it loves to ROLL off of any surface that isn't perfectly level. The only redeeming factor is switching the bits to Milwaukee 3-1/2" impact bits tha.
I have the klein screwdriver. I love Klein tools but if you put this specific screwdriver in a tool belt, i have inadvertently pushed on the adjustable shaft mechanism and the shaft will just fall out of the belt. Hard to describe but you won’t want to put it in an exposed loop in your toolbelt.
I ended up getting the Klein 5 in 1 and love it.
Should really check out the Wera Kraftform line.
I own both of these screwdrivers, as well as updated versions of the Klein that weren't available when this video was made. Personally like them both but I honestly removed all the bits from the Milwaukee and just use them in my Klein handles.
I had the Milwaukee and boy was it a pain to remove bits. I love my Picquic (made in canada)
I think, not 100% sure that they updated the holder due to complaints. I will have to check out that Picquic
@@SilverCymbal I have the same issue. Few weeks ago boughtght a brand new Milwaukee 9-in-1 ECX ratcheting screw driver and the bits are a huge pain to remove.
I have the OEM one and it's a piece of artwork
I've tried many of these all-in-one Screwdrivers and while some are better than others the best I've used is the Vessell Ratching Screwdriver TD-6816MG
Buttery smooth ratcheting and a solid bit holder in the handle that does not rattle like most.
The Williams/Snap-On is good as are the Megapro's but I don't care for the handle size or material on the Megapro.
Megapro 24-1 might be my next buy
Easy answer: Snap-On. It’ll last forever and the ratcheting mechanism feels SO good. Williams is made by Snap-On and you can get it on Amazon for $30.
I really like the Klein, but I finally broke down and bought a Milwaukee M4 cordless 1/4” screwdriver. Been using these in a repair shop for decades. So It’s second nature for me.
Thank you so much for the review, I always like your informative video's, you have a new subscriber.
Thanks again..JC
I'm a network technician or field tech as they call us for short. Anyways, I originally bought the Milwaukee ratcheting screwdriver and it is absolutely amazing, probably one of the best screwdrivers or at least all around screwdriver I have ever bought or one of them at least.
But I really just wanted a screwdriver that could hold the small bits and somehow have stored stored in the handle somehow.
Incomes of 14 and 1 Klein tools screwdriver ( I got the 15 in 1 with the nut drivers) Now as I've used both these tools in the field for
long periods of time I have to say I really do enjoy the Klein tools and it's versatility and comfortability in all day use.
There is a drawback though when I'm trying to work with tight spaces as in like I need to get the screwdriver part into somewhere real tight the Milwaukee is the way to go hands down. The fact that I work in networking this situation comes up a lot and as much as I like Klein tools and it's versatility and comfort it can't do every job where the Milwaukee can.
So as it stands now I have two technician pouches that I now use. one is for telecom and data and the other is for data center and wireless networking. That way whenever I go out to do a specific job, I know which kind of tool pouch I need to grab.
Buy the Klein Screw Driver and the Milwaukee chrome bits and boom best of both worlds. My issue with milti bit screw drivers is that its always hard to fit them into tight places requiring me to search for a standard screw driver. I rarely ever find use for ratcheting on screw drivers its more needed in mechanics in tight engine bays.
I've had a lot of miles with the Milwaukee and I can say with some firsthand experience it's a fair tool, but not ideal. The long shanks are the best selling point as they don't have that collar which can prevent them from fitting in tighter spaces. Ratcheting is nice if you do a lot of driver work by hand, otherwise I think most till opt for a drill, in any trade setting. This is also likely why I saw a lot of ripped out heads in my job. I replaced a lot of outlets and switches and I'd wager the better part of 80% had shredded heads. I did all of mine by hand to help prevent this, especially on the overly busy junction boxes. (I was also the only one to remove cover plates when painting...)
They were incredibly tough to pull out of their slots which bears well for retention, but terrible for in field common use. It definitely isn't a magnet retaining them, but an O-ring with some serious bite. There's security, but it becomes the sort of thing you seek to compromise when you use it with frequency. I put mine through a serious amount of miles before bailing on that company, and I have zero doubts it will live in that tool bag until the bits get lost.
There is some serious play, but nothing I'd worry about for common use. It never "walked" off on me due to how it was constructed.
Check out the Hazet 810-1R (or the other model, which has Pozi drive bits instead of extra Torx). Silent ball ratcheting system, magnetized bit holder in the handle. I drool every time I use it.
I have the regular Klein, Wera and Picquic multi screwdrivers. I like the Picquic the most. The long bits fit into narrow holes that the Klein and Wera won't be because of the bit holder. Grip is comfortable and cleans off easily. No ratchet but honestly I don't think the extra weight is worth the feature.
Piquic from Port Coquitlam near Vancouver I think! Definitely good for the money!
You’re right. I was completely wrong. Lol
Another greet mat video! Ordered two of the Klein drivers.
Maintenance technician here …..I’ve been using the Milwaukee for about two years now and it’s my daily driver ……it’s been flawless…..honestly I can’t live without out it …the ratchet mechanism is so smooth I love it ….I never used the Klein but I can bet it’s awesome too but I don’t think I can live without the ratchet
Klein does make a ratcheting version
Super helpful thanks
The ratchet on the MW only works as long as there is some resistance to turning the screw. Once the screw is loose the ratchet doesn't work. Not mentioned, though is that the cap on the end of the Klein also spins, allowing the user to turn screws one handed without lifting the driver off the screw head.
Have fun getting the bits out of that Milwaukee just a heads up
I like the Klein more but i would have to test them for a while and come up with an opinion.
I'll stick with my Yankee. Works great and mucho fast! A great name and a awesome screwdriver.
Can't say that I am fond of that Milwaukee screwdriver, because of the bit storage. I like my Klein screwdrivers, but my Wera ratcheting multi-bit screwdriver is my favorite.
I've had tht milwaukee screwdriver for a few years and mine isn't as wobbly as yours. I love that screw driver though
Check out the megapro screwdriver. It's a great multibit screwdriver.
Picked up the Milwaukee and not a fan. It's very heavy since the bits are so long so there is more metal weight and it's hard to remove and put back the bits on mine. The bits are also coated in some silver coating which makes the bits more slippery and seem to cam out easier than black steel bits.
I haven't used the Milwaukee but I have the 14 in 1 Klein. The bits ALWAYS fall out of place if I go to change to a different bit I have to make sure I'm holding it above a surface so they don't go all over the place.
I owned an all Milwaukee screwdrivers set the normal size rachet, stubby rachet and the standard non rachet normal size screwdriver. I ended up giving them way a year later due to certain problems. One the bits would pull out of the Milwaukee, another is the shaft wobble is horrible. Lack of options in bits. The fact that I have to store a bit in the shaft. Plus had the large Milwaukee go bad on the rachet mechanism. I switched to the Klein 14 n 1 rachet screwdriver. After just a month what a difference in work. The Klein suffored from none of the flaws of the Milwaukee. From the experience of owning both I'll take the Klein. Truth is I maybe set setting this iklein on the bench and give the Ideal 21 n 1 rachet screwdriver that is supposed out class both of these screwdrivers.
Thanks for the video. It reminded me how much I need to buy one of these. Tired of looking for my other screwdrivers that aren't always kept in one place lol. This one would come in handy.
Klein all day. But I usually don't go for the all in ones.
I use Milwaukee/husky/craftsman for destructive work and my Klein's for when it counts
I like the Lenox one.
I prefer the lutz 15-1. Has ratcheting mechanism both directions, huge number and sizes of bits, parts don’t fall out, full size handle. Only would be nicer with rubber handle. I have them all over the house.
Isn't that a little short?
I have the Milwaukee and like it's ability to get into recessed holes.
Excellent!
Many thanks!
Personally I like the Klein more, thanks for the great information 👍🇺🇸
Thank you. The extending shaft idea works very well.
I have the Klein multi screwdriver. I like it, but the bit holder drops the bits constantly.
I think on the market you can buy full-size screwdriver kits with all the bits and pieces. Can you review one of those next?
im sold on the klein!
Wiggling the shaft….haha
In the next video he's going to be blind.
I have a Kobalt all-in-one ratcheting screwdriver from several years ago and like most Kobalt tools, it's surprisingly excellent for the price. It's a shame that some of their tools are so good for the price that some Lowes stores actually don't carry them in favor of higher priced tools.
I love the Kobalt version! I don't like having to unscrew the handle cap to access the bits, but it's a real pleasure to use otherwise. And the build quality is great!
Its a big, speedy ratcheting beast! Now i want the Klein to go with it haha
Good video
The milwaukee is based off of the Picquic which is the best all around multi driver out there. Check out the Picquic Super 8.
Surprised, you didn't show the Snap-On ratcheting screwdriver. That's my goto all-in-one screwdriver; the best ratcheting mechanism plus the knurled shaft makes it by far the greatest.
It’s good but not the best I don’t like how the bits float around in the handle….you have to dump them out find the bit you want and then put everything back in the handle ……good ratchet action tho …..same as the Milwaukee….I own both……snap on is sitting in my garage at home …..Milwaukee is in my daily tool pouch
@@stifflers69mom1 agreed but I do carry both everywhere with my other tools. Their great for home improvement. The old Craftsman's I got are way better.
@@regularpit1508 lol he’ll yeah I had an old craftsman that you could change the bits by pulling the handle out twisting it and locking back in …..it was pretty cool
The Klein's and many other designs with the bit holder concept can't fit into really tight spaces due to the protruding bit holder.
Klein does have a ratcheting screwdriver though, any reason you didn't cover or mention it here? 32305
I have the Klein 11-1 and I have the Milwaukee 11-1 non-ratcheting one. Both are ok, Milwaukee is better than Klein, but Lenox makes a 9-1 that's way better than both. I was not happy with Kleins 11-1 screwdriver. I've been debating on picking the Klein up that keeps the bits in the handle..
oh yeah? interesting. all the kleins ive had, the rubber handle has gotten loose and fallen off. the one milwaukee i had, it was a smaller precision bit screwdriver, the thing was super loose and bits fell out. i might hafta check out a lenox.
I've never liked any ratcheting screwdriver I've laid hands on. Luckily Milwaukee has a wide selection of all-in-one's and some do not ratchet. Also they have ECX bits included with some.
Kind of an unfair comparison... the equivalent Klein to compare the Milwaukee with is the ratcheting 32305. I have it, as well as the 32303 you show.
The extra advantage the 32303 (and 32308 stubby version) have is they accept the 32900 7-in-1 flip socket shaft (and bits - sold with or without a handle). Gives you an added 6 nut drivers on top of the screwdriver bits… all in one easy to carry unit. They are also impact rated, along with the ability to swap the shafts/bits between the handles.
the milwaukee is also available in different bits configurations.
I have Milwaukee and hate it - it's wobbling, and the flathead cracked. bits are super hard to remove. I checked your video because I am looking for a good replacement.
Milwaukee is easily better. But great advice thanks
Milwaukee screwdriver is the only one with long bits. I remember when I wanted to screw a stand on my TV and I only had a multi screwdriver. Because of the thick bit holder I couldn't reach a screw. That is the only reason I go with Milwaukee.
Nice Screwdrivers
You should do a sequel to this video and add the other Klein nut driver that uses the same technology; PN 32900 or better yet 32907.
Nice 👍
Is Klein insulated?
I have that klein screw driver. Warning, after awhile the bits get loose and can fall into the handle. A pain to get out but won't interfere with the operation. Just annoying.
Klein does make a ratcheting version of the 10-in-1 screwdriver.
picquic multi screwdriver is by far the best in my opinion.
Thanks god bless
Wera is hard to beat!
Was there much difference in their pricing?
No both are about $20
With the Milwaukee, I can reach inset screws, where other multi tools can't reach because they're too big
I have the Milwaukee one and the tolerances seem a LOT better on the one I have.
Maybe this one was off, I was really surprised by the amount of movement it had, Still worked well but the wobble was weird.
Are any of these screwdrivers made in North America?
The Klein is made is Taiwan and the Milwaukee China. But all Kleins standards drivers are made in the USA. I have a lot of those and they are great
@@SilverCymbal
Sounds like Klein is the way to go!
Milwakee is as expensive but made off shore.
what sucks about the klein is that whenever i get a bit out all the bits fall out
which should I buy - none of these for sure
Technically the VDE is very difficult to replace
on the Klein with the bit holder in the handle open then slap the bit holder closed it will definitely fail
Husky has the best 14 in 1 screwdriver. All bits store on it, and it ratchets, lifetime warranty.
Another great video. I mostly work with precision screwdrivers. So a few years back I got a Precision Autoloader (th-cam.com/video/1ld8moyYTL8/w-d-xo.html). Just like you, I found the ratcheting option weakens the design a bit. But it's still a great tool.
There was the full size Autoloader (th-cam.com/video/VPwCg9-73qg/w-d-xo.html). It was rebranded and sold under many names (ie Seiko). I genuinely surprised it didn't last. Therefore, it can be hard to find them. Even online.
I'm genuinely surprised you didn't cover the Wera Kraftform Kompakt (th-cam.com/video/MGd-X7wx6w4/w-d-xo.html) since I saw you had a Wera screwdriver in that initial pile. These are solidly built like the Klein you should but with a few more features (ergonomics, push button release)
I've never understood the purpose of a screwdriver that ratchets. I've had them before and saw no practical use for the ratchet function.
A ratchet for sockets makes sense because the handle is at an angle in relation to the bit; a straight screwdriver is not.
Maybe I'm missing something
When I'm not using my Dewalt Cordless Screwdriver, I like my Wera 051024 Kraftform Kompakt. Check them out.
This thing is fantastic. th-cam.com/users/postUgkx1McjgiqTNcTjrhvRvJWcrk5bzTeQW-Wn Easy to store in a bag in "screwdriver" position, not heavy but well built, and the location of the button makes it easy to screw or unscrew with one hand in either "gun" or "screwdriver" position. My only real complaint is there isn't a clip anywhere to store another bit, and the bit isn't a combo dual-ended bit either, so the flathead and P1/P0 philips bits we have to carry around invariably get misplaced.Note: Apparently Black + Decker changed this same Li2000 model from "Type 2" to "Type 3". This new "Type 3" appears to be slightly lighter, and the charging plug is now larger, with a little metal piece to keep it snug. I never noticed the "Type 2" version charger plug to not be perfectly snug, so not sure why this change was made - it does make it annoying that our shop now has 8 of these, and the new 3 have different charging plugs :/
Surprised you didn't look at Picquic.. Milwaukee stole their design here.. Picquic is made in Canada and gives you real robertson bits.
the LTT screwdriver the best
You'll have to remake this video when Linus' screwdriver comes out
People have been waiting for that for a while. He is probably trying to make it bluetooth compliant.
@@SilverCymbal hahaha it better be
0:01 "draw" or "drawer"?
Check out some European brands like Wera, Wiha and (my favourite) PB Swiss. Far superior to anything from Milwaukee, Klein or even Snap-On.
Wera!
That milwaukee would be perfect if the bits were double ended. Could have 12 heads.
This guy must have been sold a craspy milwaukee because mine has no play in it
Wera over all! 😂