(Part 2 of the Audiolab 8300-XP Power-Amp-Review) Fast N Clean Speaker Driving Machine ! (Attack)
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- Part 2 of the Audiolab 8300xp review !
Please watch part 1 first !
Audiolab 8300xp link
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Audiolab 6000a Link
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They ran the 6000a with Wharfedale Lintons at the Bristol show a little while ago and many people said it was one of their favourite rooms. 8300xp would be another level I’m sure. Great video, thank you for all the info!
Yes the 8300xp is on another level but should be for price 😆 and Wharfdale is the brothef Company of Audiolab i beed to try Wharfdale speakers soon !
With this kind of enthusiasm, I believe Audiolab should pay him some commission, nice video, seriously considering getting it as my first amp. Thanks man & keep up the good work!
Thank you for the commemt Rick .
Yeah I don't make no money off reviews and I don't want to my reward is the interaction with other enthuist 😃
Hey tee jay, nice review!! You are one of those very few reviewer that review some rare non reviewed products. Happen to see your video and watched it quite good review and you even open up and zoomed in and focus on the amp that’s quite rare!! Well done subscribed to you.
Can’t wait for your review on the Vidar, heard good thing about it regretted not getting it and got a Ragnarok kind of regretted it.
Thank you !
Yaaaasss! Great work my friend! Looks amazing! Would love to hear this guy!
Dear Teejay...how would you compare 6000A vs. 6000A as pre and 8300XP as power amp...I currently have 6000A paired with Linton and wondering what will adding the power amp give me in addition?
Hi tee jay I,m considering one of these to use with my Audiolab 9000cdt and m dac + the only thing putting me off this are the amount of all those tiny surface mount capacitors and resistors on the main board , best wishes from UK.
Things i forgot to say important !
Yes the 6000a as a preamp adds Color to the 8300xp power amp 100 percent , Once i used many preamps this was very hearable 😆 And For a started pre the 6000a done a great job !
1st all newer Audiolab audio gear are gained Match .
2nd I ran this amp Hard ! And the 8300xp never gets hot !
3rd my favorite speaker paired with the 8300xp would be my JBL Studio 580s and Triangle Esprit Comete .
4th I always reccomend auditioning audio or speakers before buying if this is possible .
Hi Tee Jay ...thanks...great review...Wharfedale speakers match well with Audiolab amps...lots of demos on those pairs.....
@@sourav0vlsi yes wharfdale is a brother company to Audiolab
@@Zenos174 big noce3 heat sinks ! And good quality output stage transitors or BJT Sanken 😆
But i have drove both the 6000a 8300xp and they barley get warm ! My other amps get really hot Espically my Yamaha 😆
@@Zenos174 Big heat sinks !! Your 6000a has a beast of a power supply to be rated ar 50 watts ! Check out my 6000a review 😆
Thank you for sharing nice audio equipment. Young. Cheers!!
Hey Mr. Young its an Honor to have you stop in 😃
tee-jay, great review! thanks! since you have and love the IOTAVX SA3 and liked so much the Audiolab 6000A, it would be awesome if you could throw the Rotel A11 Tribute, and Arcam SA10 in the mix! seems like those 4 amps would be in a very tough competition for best amp under $1000.
I am going crazy to try out the Arcam and Rotel but more so the Arcam but i have no connections to Arcam and i have owned Arcam integrateds and Sacd players that i loved !!
I consider $2300 well above entry-level you said 20 times. For me below $500 separates is entry-level and $500 to $2000 for separates is mid-level. Maybe an entry lever pre-amp with dac and streamer for $1000 could be entry level with inflation IMHO. But $2300 for a separate amplifier isn't entry-level unless you are made of money.
Those internal cables are so thick!
I'm going to replace my thin internal cables with thicker and better ones too.
Thats why i had to show the cables one more time 😆
Nice review. What do you think of the Audiolab 8300Mb ?
Can you please review the tonewinner ad3pro + thanks
Send them an email to send me one and I will '
I have a pair of Buchardt S300 mk II - they are about $1200 USD. They are rated at 4ohm. Do you think upgrading to the 8300xp from the 6000A Play alone would be worthwhile, for additional grip & control?
OMG not only grip and Control but also total refinement ! Dynamics headroom Attack weight ! The 8300xp amp is on a different level ! Dam i bet that would sound great with the bucharts the 8300xp is so linear and clean ! Actually the Preamp sets what i would call the overall flavor paired with the 8300xp .
And 230watts @ 4ohms ! 8300xp will drive those speakers effortlessly !
@@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120 Thank you.
@@ayewhite333 Your welcome but hold on for just a few i have fri/sat/sunday off this week and on my 3rd review maybe this coming Wed i will be reviewing the audiolab 8300a dual Mono integrated amp pure analog ! 1 word Wow !
@@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120 Haha sweet! I doubt I could afford two mono blocks but I bet the sound is amazing
@@ayewhite333 No the 8300a is a integrated amp just like the 6000a
But the 8300a has 2 amps built inside instead of 1 amp like the 6000a and the Built in preamp of 8300a ohhh shit !
Around $1599/1699 U.S.
Do the 580s have a slight glare around the 1khz-4khz mark? I like my 570s a lot for the money despite this. They do NOT sound as great as the lsim 705s but they are great for the funds. I haven't heard the triangle yet. I'm thinking about going straight DIY and dabbling in the world of minidsp.
Love to hear your thoughts
What do you think of the combination of Audiolab 8300XP with KEF R500 or KEF R300 speakers, will this be a good combo ?. Thank you
Hey Martin Honestly its going to depend heavy on your Preamp your going to be using with the 8300xp . The 8300xp is such an uncolored sounding amp .
But when i used the Audiolab preamp with the 8300xp and my Kef speakers their wasn't enough top end extenstion IMHO Amps like Marantz/Hegal/Rega will most likely work better but if you have a prramp that has top end ext yeah the 8300xp would work great . Really depends on the preamp with the 8300xp
@@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120 What do you think of Vincent SA-32 pre-amplifier with Audiolab 8300XP driving the KEF's ?
@@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120 Hi Tee-Jay, i need to ask which pre-amps or DAC/pre would be best for high end ext with the 8300xp.
I got a 8300xp to partner my 6000a and i'm not hearing enough top end. Sound is improved otherwise, through my Monitor audio bronze 200's. Was thinking to get a Burson or similar istead if it would give me that lift in the top end. What you think ?
I don't know never tried the Vincent
Actually i liked my Burson with my 8300xp but it was very transparent and not a lot of extension in the top end
The New Freya Noval preamp i am about to review has lots of energy in the top end and on the Antlitikle side but dam its so detailed just very Reveling meaning its not going to cover up a bad reccording may sound a little grainy on bad recordings but on great recordings OMG Unreal for $799.00U.S. and you have 2 weeks if you buy to send back if you dont like it but you will have to pay return shipping ! But small gamble to try out - I can't get over the preamp and you can tube roll 6N1P/6922/Ecc88 so this will allow you to taylor the Sound !
And fully balanced in/outputs !!
Great review Tee-Jay! Slightly off topic, but do you consider any or all of the Schiit dacs you've reviewed to be much better than the fact in the 6000a?
Ask any ? You want to about audio .
Thats what keeps me going !
Heres the thing about the Audiolab 6000a built in dac , Audiolab has been developing their ESS 9018 dac chip for over 10 years and audiolab got it right by designing the 'internal dacs power supply and circuitry' around the chip to sound best with their 6000a integrated basically audiolab spent all those years with developement and they got the synergy just right with the Dac/ integrated amp this is one thing i talked about during the 6000a review i even showed the inside of the amps dac . but back to your ?
Both of my Schiit Modi 3 and schiit Modius dac when hooked up to the Audiolab sounds ok but the built in dac of the 6000a imho has better performace (Synergy) . So then i hooked up my $300.00 U.S dac The Aune X8 majic dac which has the ess chip also and the Aune dac was barley maybe 3-5 percent better than the built in dac Of the A.L. 'Aune' with (stock op-amps) ,
But the Aune also decodes higher resolution music files 32bit/768 pcm and Dsd 512 , the built in dac of The A.L. decodes up to 24/192 pcm only just like both the Schiit budget dacs .
The only thing about the A.L. built in dac is theirs no USB digital input but 2 optical 2 coaxial . but yeah The built in dac imho will compete with outboard dacs up to 200.00 US paired with the 6000a thats why alot of people dont upgrade with a budget outboard dac and you have alot less cables ! But once you move up to 'most' outbaord dacs costing North of 300.00US then the built in dac starts to get outperformed but still for pricepoint and having the Synergy Audiolab nailed it man with built in dac !
Dam that was a book i wrote ! 😆 Just backing up my answer
@@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120 Thanks for the detailed answer. Also it's what I hoped to hear. Demoing the 6000a now and still in return window. My first audiophile piece and I think it sounds amazing. I was considering upgrading to the 8300a for the beefier power supply and wattage, but no dac. I think I'll stay with the 6000a. My only other concern, if I have this right, is since it only has one pre out I can hook up an amp or a subwoofer but not both. I feel a sub is pretty necessary for music.
@@lloydbrown3223 yes yoy can hook up both 😆 i need to kick-off my Tricks of the Trade video series soon !
I can send you a pic of a rca analog 1 male to 2 female y adapter you would need 2 of them this would give you a total of 4 preouts 2 left 2 right
Can i connect the Vincent SA-32 pre-amplifier to the Audiolab 8300XP power amp?
Heck yeah you can ! Whats so awesome about the 8300xp is its so uncolored sounding it really allows the front end to tame the over all sound chacter
@@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120 Many thanks
@@martinmbokazi8372 thats what i am here for, we are stronger Enthuist when we all help each other out !
bonjour quelle est la marque du transformateur ? le fabricant ? on ne voit pas
How does the audiolab compare to your Onkyo Integra?
Completely different animal's 😃 Onkyo lush n warm Audiolab clean and accurate
Have tried the new Uni Fi: reference with the Audiolab 6000A, if so how was the synergy?
Just the ub52 2.0 elacs , review coming soon
Cool video, keep it up
Thank you been working 12hr shifts 7 days a week getting ready for the Elac review !
How would a audiolab 6000A work with the quad s2 speakers?
Depends how hard the quad s2 are to drive and whats your preamp ?
The audiolab is very clean and uncolored basically the amp gets out of the way but still offers great attack and Dynamics the 8300xp will drive about any speaker but the 6000a well i wouldn't reccomend for speakers below 89db
@@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120 i think the quad s2's are 88db efficiency also they dont go below 4.5 ohms .
I remembered listening to some kef ls50's before on the audiolab 6000A and it drove them well. I think the 6000A is a special amplifier and i want to try it again.
@@hclandscapes i had a hard time getting my Kef Q-100s to be driven properly with the Audiolab and the Elac ub52s ohh my goodness man those speakers like powaaaa ! I just have so many amps (classAB 14of them) but yeah i love the audiolab , alot of times I biamp i use the audiolab to drive the top/mid frequency and my Emotiva basx A300 to drive the lowfrequency total of 42pounds of class AB
Big up manlike TJ
vous auriez cette video en français ?
ou les tests on ne les trouve pas , nul part
Just a note the JBL 530s are half off again. Also no other models are on sale right now. But I called Harmon and the said today at 10:55am central time. Next Big sale is Sept 6th the Labor Day sale.
Thanks for the heads up killer speakers for the price point !
You need to get hold of the Wharfedale Pro Series probably the MP 2800, 1400 Watts per channel down to 2ohms DSP remarkable price £500 new £200 second-hand.
It is a high current amplifier definitely should pick one up! if you can tj not much on the views I can see especially in the hi-fi world.
It doesn't look fully balance circuitry it looks more like single-ended are you sure about that?
Want to upgrade my 6000a amp, thinking either 8300xp or 2st 8300mb not sure which way to go.
Any tips appreciated. Great reviews Tee-Jay 👍 ,Mike.
Thanks for the comment , what speakers are you using ?
Your right TJ the amp has plenty of body and very analytical definitely a step up or two from the 6000a, doesn't sound twice as loud as the 6000a but has much more headroom and control. Could have been a little smaller in terms of size but the materials used are of great quality much better constructed than the 6000 series
Yeah you also have a 8x big Sanken output transitors vs 4 Fets field effect transitors ' but being twice as loud youd need 500 watts to do that the 8300xp is about 2db more loud 200 watts isn't double the power of 100 watts 1000 watts is double the power crazy how watts work i use to think the same
You can look it up also but i refuse to tell you wrong
@@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120 yep I'm aware it doesn't work like that it's logarithmic or something like that its crazy how much more power you need just for a few decibels more above 100db. I'm not in it for crazy loudness levels more power for me is about more control for different difficult loads across the frequency range, there's nothing worse than feeling the distortion levels increase above a certain volume range especially when the recording has a low level and you need to boost volume. What in your opinion does this 8300xp change from A to B class at what watts?
I have a 6000a, running Wharf Evo 4.2 & Dynaudio Evoke 10s. Good combo's. I also have a Leak 130, which doesn't sound as good as the 6000a. The Leak did not match well with those speakers.
Dang looks like the leak would have matched up its basically a 8300a I thought , I could be wrong
@@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120 it's 45W - I used the 6000a as power and Leak as Pre and that sounded pretty good actually. I think the Leak benefits a lot from a power amp. BTW, how does the 6000a sound as a pre-amp?
@@tg6373 As a Preamp its great espically for pricepoint, I will put it like this Theirs 1k preamps i have bought that I liked the 6000a more so the 6000a is solid Preamp and the Aune X8 Majic dac paired up very well with the A.L.
@@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120 did you review the Vidar/6000a combo?
@@tg6373 not yet but very soon I will !!!
You shouldn't mix and match two brands of amplifiers to biamp ie bad idea to use audiolab integrated amplifier with emotiva power amplifier to biamp as gain/voltage structure could be different. If you want to bi amp with audiolab integrated get the match audiolab poweramp that is paired in same spec. Or use the audiolab integrated as a pre only and use two matching poweramps ie emotiva to biamp
I biamp all the time as long as gain is the same its worked out for me And i never go above power thats a 2 to 1 ratio
. Well, mixing brands is fine (even sometimes desirable) but like you said there's a couple things to be aware of before just buying power amps. Input/output impedance & line voltage are two. And ya, channel gains are almost a necessity unless there's an active crossover or DSP. edit; Even so, I still want variable gain.
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A britih piece of hardware with decent electrolytics? Cannot be! I wonder where the hidden failure points are, except the usual caps close to heatsinks.
@puciohenzap891 I didn't give it all that great of review but some people will like it very un colored but I wish it sounded a little more robust n full
@@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120isn't that what you want on an amplifier uncolored and neutral, you can then tune your sound with speakers or dac
Church loool go on tee jay
😃 I miss the amp!!! But i had it for 7 months dam it was good for price
Audiolab 8300-XP 140@8 $2,699 vs Parasound A21+ 160@8 $1,999 ......................................
I'll take the ParaSound solely due to the variable channel gains.
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Yeah I would most likely also go with Parasound depending on what speakers I would be using also. I didn't know A21 ➕️ was that cheap but I am not a fan of rated watts or how many watts I've owned 300 watt @4 ohm emotiva Amps that couldn't outdrive my Denon pma 1700 @140 @4ohms Denon is twice as heavy almost ' quality of watts is what matters '
@@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120 .
I'm curious. Any of those bands I mentioned get your toe tappin'?
I wouldn't buy the 8300xp at that price you can find it much cheaper than that and it's also at the end of line, so soon to be discontinued. It's a great power amp I really like it, smooth and sweet and analytical, very neutral and has potential for bridging to 480w and XLR and RCA Inputs, good electrical components and built by a good company with a long history in engineering music equipment. They represent vfm
@carlitosgomez71 Yeah I actually preferred my 52 Yamaha ' But Audiolab was very transparent and balanced just wished it had more body n weight to the sound ' the galion TS-A75 imho a better amp ' @1500'
@@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120 I've added 2 8300xp in bridged mono and two subs all the weight and body one needs 👌