The 2023 Jeep Grand Wagoneer L Is An Exceedingly Large Limo-Like Luxury SUV
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 มิ.ย. 2024
- The largest Jeep ever made is also the most luxurious and the longer 2023 #JeepGrandWagoneerL has all the necessary specs to allow it to compete head-to-head with the best from Cadillac and Lincoln. The #GrandWagoneerL stretches the regular #GrandWagoneer by over a foot to give passengers more interior and cargo space. Under the hood, the thirsty 6.4L V8 has been replaced by an ultra modern twin-turbo 3.0L I-6 making more HP and torque, while improving the fuel efficiency.
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23:55 I love how much light is coming into the interior. Those big windows are doing its job.
FINALLY! I've been awaiting your review! So here's the trick to ordering a GW: Go with the Obsidian in Series II/III! Due to the styling and upright back, the Wagoneer doesn't do "bling" very well, especially the window surrounds, which causes a lot of side profile visual distortion. It looks way better without the chrome.
As for the overall Grand Wagoneer, its hard to argue that it is not a true luxury player except in name. The interior is a knockout(odd that your door panel was hard plastic at the bottom where all Grand Wagoneers I've been in have been soft touch plastic. Possibly due to being a press vehicle?), up-to-date on tech, has the requisite comfort, and has room that must be measured in acreage. Then the cherry on top is the new Hurricane. It is a marvel of a modern engine. FCA/Stellantis put the engine through nearly 20 million miles of development for 6 years. One trick they did was made the turbos parallel as opposed to sequential. In doing so, you get all of the power, all of the time with virtually no lag.
Just a few callouts: Your testing of the Hurricane is consistent with what I've seen elsewhere. It is astonishing that this big brute is just .03 slower than an Escalade V, despite a 170hp disadvantage and weighing 200-500lbs more.(and this is before SRT gets their hands on it). However, neither Hurricane **requires** premium. The Hurricane L.O. recommends 87 regular, whereas the H.O. recommends 91 premium for top performance.
While the Escalsde may be more stylish on the exterior, I don't think the interior is as polished, especially the rear seat area. The Series III is a real treat!
I agree about the lower door panels, I've sat in a level 1 GW when the wife's old Ghibli was in for service and seem to remember literally testing that area to see if it felt like Chevy Cobalt plastic and I recall it being soft touch. The new Hurricane I-6 is a beast and definitely one of the most impressive attributes of this truck now besides the still-impressive interior. I don't think I'll ever fully warm up to the exterior though, although I personally think the chrome window surrounds are classy-ish and compliment the slab-sided design well, but I hate the too-similar Grand Cherokee front end of these, not premium-looking enough to my eyes. And I still think Jeep designers could have made those raised Grand Wagoneer letters on the front doors out of wood (or even fake wood) as a unique and tasteful tribute to the woodgrain-sided original.
Your comments read like someone with Asperger's. Like calm the fck down it's a soccer mom car
The Canyonero!
I will give credit where it’s due, the interior is beautiful in my opinion, 4.7 seconds is insane for something that big. Just wish Jeep didn’t sell out on the styling, one of the worse looking in it’s segment.
Agreed ... I think I'm getting one though because none of these huge boxes look that great :)
@@bennbecker2972 Respect, I personally love the looks of the Expedition and Navigator the most in their segment. Especially for an SUV!
@@kellyoubrejr544 We have a 2020 Navigator L in Black Label right now so apparently I liked it enough to get one :)
But it's got a terrible mpg
Absolutely beautiful and the L version actually looks more suited for this rectangular design. Compared to the esv or yukon XL, that is noticeably streched from the rear C pillar. The wagoneer L though is symmetric front and back, whereas the shortbase rear is cut short. I love this thing! I can see Jeep going 4xE for this b4 GM. And I agree exterior styling does fall btw Escalade and Navigator. The interior 2nd n 3rd row is unmatched, although Cadillac driver's area still reigns supreme to me. Its beautiful just pretty busy, throwing 4 screens everywhere still doesn't match the elegant design of the OLED in the Escalade. I do give it to Jeep for offering 0-60 in 4.7secs without taxing on an additional 40k unlike the Escalade V. Also, something to take into consideration 🔥
I recently bought a brand new 2023 Chevy Suburban LT 5.3L V8.....not a fan of Turbo Engines.....the interior of this Jeep is really nice. Good review.
This truck is amazing, the price tag isn't but I'm very impressed. It would be nice to see I-6 make a come back in sedans and SUVs and trucks. Not a bad Come back from a name plate that's been missing for over 30 years
i don't like the Wagoneer looks but man its impressive. Love this new hurricane engine.
Love the upgrade on the engine and added power. Can’t wait to see a version of the Hurricane engine the Grand Cherokee.
Nice interior. GREAT engine. Still hate the generic looking exterior though (mainly the front which just looks like a big Grand Cherokee to me), especially this longer "L" version which now just looks generic AND dumpy - Still think the "Grand Wagoneer" letters on the front doors should have been made out of wood as a unique tribute to the original wood-sided models too.
Some people suggested a woody, but I disagree. I'm also not a big fan of having car names scripted across the front or hood like Ford or Range Rover. I've always though it too industrial.
I do, however, find it more appealing now that they at least moved it to the grill rather than the hood.
Great Review. I agree on your take. 4-wheel steering would have been great and making it a mild hybrid would help with fuel economy.
Hey Sofyan, what color combination do you recommend for the Grand Wagoneer (not L), you've seen a few in person and I trust your taste!
It looks like a hearse from that back angle
Very nice SUV 😍🔥
At 20:00 , you said 10 speed auto, I thought it still used the 8 speed ZF?
I think these long wheelbase SUVs tend to look better with the rear side window stretched into the D-pillar. Having a D-pillar on an already huge vehicle just makes it so ungainly.
That third row is massive and with large windows, unlike other SUV.
Is there a way to turn off the rear seat displays from the drivers seat ? Not an issue for me but the better half doesnt like the reflection they cause at night and she has to stop and go to the back seat to turn them off, and then if you shut the motor off, they will come back on when you restart. seems a little odd.....
I love all those cameras on this SUV even review mirror camera. It make it like easier to use those systems on this truck
I wish you can test with all the seats occupied of people , to see how realy works for family-friendly
Great vehicle. Not sure about that large sun roof thou. Great video
Wow what a beast
That car looks sick as Frick
Can this grand wagoneer compete with defender 130?or maybe full size range rover?
I saw one review online in which the middle row has three seats. That is so awesome. There is so much room. I think that console in the second row is ridiculous.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, this thing is a huge eyesore.
I can’t wait to see the new Inline-6 to be used in other Chrysler products.
YES! That part. The Grand Cherokee needs it ASAP. It would have nice to see it in the Challenger and Charger too, but those are going away.
We are in the era of inline-6s
Even Mazda has started making a turbo inline 6 that will be in its new vehicles soon
@@joecool9739 My theory is that if you're going to cut most ICEs you may as well make the best you can since there will be so few in a few years. BMW, Jeep, MB, Mazda all have or will have them. It would be nice to see Toyota make one again.
Yeah just got ticket 2 days ago on GWL iii
I want this engine in the Grand Cherokee!
This is the ultimate luxury suv 🤩
As a turbo, the engines lifespan will be shorter.
If you don't mind being towed around due to breakdowns, recalls and electric gremlins.
@@phatgringo2.0 every car has recalls. You don’t buy a luxury car for reliability.
You buy a luxury car for the true luxury and tech
@@naveenthemachine acura mdx has a way better sound system.
@@naveenthemachine and you also buy a luxury car for quality, something that jeep doesn't have the best track record for.
5:46 - 5:57: From that angle it kinda looks a hearse used to transport the dead. Otherwise, everything seems good, especially the interior and the power.
They better put that engine in the ram
Hopefully in RCSB format.
And in the GC-L eventually.
Jeep is underating this engine. It's really making 604 horsepower according to the 1/4 mile calculator. In a challenger weighing around 4000 lbs. You should be able to run high 10's if dodge decides to continue the L body vehicles.
I agree. Given the power to weight, they're certainly underrating those thoroughbred ponies. This thing is just .03 seconds slower than an Escalade V. Can you imagine what is going to happen when/if SRT gets a hold of it?
@@hellkitty1014 SRT been got disbanded
So basically it’s mostly made for traveling and long distances, because i just cant see someone using it for a daily to and from work and that’s it
Bingo! Its the family car. And how else are you going to get to the cabin? Get every family member ATVs?
people will though
the I6 is certainly a nice engine, but the V8 is not primarily about performance, it's about the fantastic sound.
Throw two turbos on a 6.4 and see what you get. Me personally I'm not to sold on turbos. Five or ten years from now the 6.4 still be running and a six cylinders with two turbos will need all kinds of work to keep running
With me being a big V8 guy, I’d be furious if I was going to get one of these and found out that they got rid of the 6.4 V8 for literally only 1 MPG better. If they are going to downgrade to a 6 cylinder, 1 MPG of improvement would just be unacceptable for me personally. If I’m spending $110k on an SUV, fuel economy wouldn’t even be a factor on my decision. I wouldn’t spend the money for something that only has that inline 6 when it had a V8. I’d either just get the regular wagoneer or the previous model year that offered the 6.4 V8
Completely agree with you. This is an absurd trade. It seems like they must have EPA regulations that are governed by displacement or something not just by MPG. One MPG savings? Which will probably be completely erased by the time you have to put your foot in it to actually get some power out of the engine. And on top of that probably have to run premium. Completely ridiculous
I love love love this vehicle. I currently own a YUKON XL ---which is totally nice don't get me wrong---but I just like how different this looks. If you're not a rapper or drug dealer you can't pull off driving an Escalade. The expedition looks are so-so to me---The Lincoln is gorgeous --- and I've never cared for any chevy products. which leaves Land Rover Defender 130, the Yukon, and the Grand Wagoner as my top 3 choices
Thats Acura TLX Type S speed right there!!!
Not sure I would say the V8 was far thirstier when it was only 1MPG less.
This is a best on suv have a all led lights on Interior or exterior on this truck. Have a led headlights see lot best Any bad weather of night this is 20th century with those lights in this truck. Go for led light ❤😊
@5:48 that D piller uptick ruins the look I would like to drive the new in line 1-6
It’s a nice truck no doubt, but doesn’t have the design or presence to even begin to try to compete head to head with the Cadillac Escalade. This _looks_ like a Jeep. Not a bad thing, but when you’re paying this kind of money I’m not sure you want to be reminded.
Edit: I love the wheel design and I absolutely love this color and two tone combination. 🔥
Yeah I hate the Grand Cherokee-looking front end. It looks nice at $50-60k but not premium or distinctive enough for over six figures, Jeep designers obviously tried to play it safe but too safe in my opinion.
Interior is definitely a step up from what they used to do and the engine is nice. The exterior is just dumpy/ clumsy looking. If paying this price tag the looks need to be more on par.
Ugly outside, but completely utilitarian. Best part, it really is off-road capable.
Curious what a dyno would register....But a 100 grand for a Jeep ?
For that price just by an Escalade, this just looks like a big Grand Cherokee. Also if you want to go dodge style and go for massive HP only Caddy has you there with the Escalade V ... The 6 cyl is cute tho
Is it really a redline video without him saying his “iphone 14 pro max” fits its so funny to me 😂
He's using it for reference for those who have a large phone 🤣
@@NIKOLAIDESIGN I know it’s just funny every time for some reason
I feel offended that the GW L doesn’t have the passenger screen standard
Actually before you even said about the blinker stalks i said those look like there from a cheaper model jeep
Yeah it just looks like a big Grand Cherokee to me and this "L" version looks dumpy with all the extra length behind the back doors.
My buddy rented one and came to visit me and these things are NICE but that price isnt!!!
Needs a steel bumper glass head lights larger tires less aluminum rims and solid rear axle and a stick shifter also all steel roof
He did not just say he drove it out in “the Utah” hahahahjahahahjahah
I’m planning to get a used wagoneer not grand but regular fully loaded
Is the engine reliable ? I never ever had a jeep
The biggest issue with all these full-size extended American SUV is the exclusion of rear-wheel steering. They need it more than any. But once they adapt that, the size won't seem so imposing. Of course, it will add more complexity and expense. But that's the future of all things, and cars are no exception. More power than the V8 and better MPG (if not by much).
Do you really trust Chrysler to make a rear wheel steering system that lasts?
Soyfan, what is the deal with the apps for these vehicles? Why can’t these companies set up apps for you to use for your week of use so you and others can give feedback on how they function, glitches, ease of use etc. Its baffling to me that they don’t set this up for press vehicles.
I will continue to say it, but American car buyers are finally getting the luxury in their SUVs that they never got in their American luxury cars. Look at this interior and new state of the are engine to boot. It's a shame their isn't a single American sedan that can match this level of interior design and quality. It's time for this I6 to make it way to the JGC.
6:00 red rear indicator lights = fail
It gives a good idea for a while but it was a little bit of time to time
@Redline Reviews airport's are getting these and letting people use them as rentals
If it's like their other 6 cylinders, it's gonna be trash after 60-75k miles!! A neighbor 3 door next to me has the 2022 Wagoneer and i,ve seen it being flatbeded 2 times in the past year, 1 time for transmission re-flash!!
There's no Jeep badges because Stelantis wants Wagoneer to be a separate brand from Jeep (Range Rover competitor vs Tahoe/Yukon for the Grand Cherokee)
😂Yeah this is the Derek Jeter family luxury suv that is on the tube during televised sporting events.
What’s the point of going to a turbo 6? You’re only gaining 1 more MPG.
Should’ve kept the v8 I’ll stick to the Yukon because of the v8
Manufactures have to build more fuel efficient vehicles. Besides, a six is a perfect compromise and its power that really matters.
They still have the V8 in the short wagoneer as an option.
A Fiat engine, built in Mexico, by a French company. What could possibly go wrong?
Impressive vehicle, but I find it ugly from the b-pillar back.
Its not pretty from any angle, but the interior is class leading and very well appointed.
2023 Jeep Grand Wagoneer L Series II
6500lbs mostly driven by a 140 lb housewife with occasionally a couple of 60 lb kids. Is this really necessary?
Nowadays? Absolutely.
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A he'll cat v8 would make it durable and faster
This twin turbo V6 is absurd. One mpg savings over a 6.4 L V8 naturally aspirated? I'll take the V8 everyday thank you.
having trouble walking there bud?
Heyyo
Again; giving us the volume of the cargo area does absolutely nothing. Is it too much to give the length, width and height?
26:30 Not a flattering angle for this truck. I still think it looks like a Ford Flex.
So there's a Wagoneer, Wagoneer L, Grand Wagoneer, and Grand Wagoneer L???
I know it's so confusing
Think of the Wagoneer models more like the Tahoe/Suburban/Expedition competitor where the Grand Wagoneer as more the Escalade and Navigator competitor
@@niuhuskieguy thanks
I think they failed at the naming structure too. Frankly I don't think this should have ever had a Tahoe/Suburban competitor at all, at least not with the same name with only "Grand" in front of it and virtually the same exterior design - Makes it hard to justify paying over six figures when there's a Tahoe-priced "Wagoneer" that looks nearly identical parked next to it for half the price.
One refers to trim, the other to length. Same as those from GM or the Germans
School bus vibes
The body colored B,C, & D pillars remind me of a plastic folk from the side-view. Nice interior tho. Needs woodgrain siding perhaps 🤔 I'll take an Escalade, please
Essentially the poor man's land rover :D
I would love to have this for a cross-country trip and as my basecamp in the Rockies. That said, that's way too much $$$$$$ and the outdated ICE drivetrain is a ridiculous gas-hog. Should be a hybrid getting at least 30mpg.
I don’t understand why these are so overlooked. All you here is Bentley, Escalade, or Rolls Royce.
Such a big heavy SUV deserves a good diesel engine.
Not 10 speed! It's the reliable ZF 8 speed.
An easy conversion to a hearse.
Awesome suv but a sedan is a better option most of the time
So a sedan is a better option for a family of 6?
@@limitedreach4446 it can work, anything is possible
@@joskjj3625 lmao
9400 towing capacity is good, but as a turbo, the engines lifespan will be much, much less.
@@Erin-Thor as a stellantis it won't last 100k miles
*would be nice* bottom half of door panels stitched in leather? you craaazy- anyone getting in/out is going to hit that area with their feet sometimes, and then start talking about mud/snow? ... fuggetaboutit
Like most jeeps, it will spend its life getting repairs
Also, Chrysler Aspen? Why did Chrysler get the axe in terms of being the “luxury” brand. So many opportunities to recreate Chrysler, but Jeeps win again.
Love the engine, but zero use for a Grand Wagoneer as simply way too big and expensive. Another Jeep product that makes me wish for something other than what they made.
Exterior is just a big *yawn*. Such a missed opportunity to not let the classic Wagoneer inform some design aesthetics.
It really is boring looking and doesn't scream luxury. A big ugly box. Other companies do it much better.
I’ve seen them on the road & they don’t carry the same presence as an Escalade. They look very chinese knock-off SUV.
Escalade = exterior
Grand Wagoneer = interior
Wow $100k for another american made junkies …..shortage issues right? Lol
The “nitpicking” has become unbearable with this guy
as babytron once said "Grand Wagoneer so big it destroyed curbs"
BMW engine?
Fiat design built in
Mexico.
The price is overwhelming get a motor home
I think the exterior design of the wagoneer is the worst is ugly. I think GM has then beat interior looks nice but feels super cheap
100k for a Jeep? Hard pass. IDC how it looks inside or drives…. Despite the outside being hideous imo, the nameplate isn’t worthy.. Jeep can stick to rubicons and patriots or compass
Front sucks
Grille isnt masculine
No Hands free
The length made the look less attractive... Ford Flex type of look
Back tail sequential light has no trendy style.
510HP from 3L is nice
Leather is nice
Info system loading seemed faster
12" display is nice
just needs opt 4 row jump seats for large Utah families
That thing doesn't look proportional from any angle! Fail. And what about every manufacturer making the key fob the size of a cel phone! They should put wheels on them so you can play with them at the office!
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