FTX Outlaw Brushless- Can it redeem itself??
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- My FTX Outlaw has been a constant pain in the neck! Suffering more breakages and breakdowns per-run, than any RC I've ever owned!
With less and less of it being left original, can this lemon be transformed?
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HalliHallo,
What happened to your video between 8:01 and 8:09…?
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Just some landscape, stones and grassland in the twilight…why…?
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Keep on having a good RC FUN time,
Thorsten
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Ha! I knew it! You saw NOTHING!!
Cheers, Thorsten, you too.
Hello, I have two of these FTX. 1 brushed version, 1 brushless since 6 years at least.
Brushed version: I burnt 2 or 3 motors. They lasted maybe 20 mn each. So I upgraded to a brushless motor (requires to change the ESC as well). Then the gear spur was used very quickly. After 2 spurs, I upgraded to a metal spur. Nice, but then the pinion gear was used very quickly, had to upgrade to a metal pinion. Driveshaft broke, so I had to replace it with an aluminium one. Then the alum one just broke two weeks ago. Got to get a heater to unblock the screw because I had to apply some loctite, otherwise, the screw would go off with the vibrations...
Then the brushless version, same issue with the driveshaft and the spur and pinion. All upgraded with metal/alumn parts. Got to upgrade to metal frame 'cause it broke. Rear arm also broke got to upgrade to aluminium as well... Had to change the servo 'cause after a run on the beach, some salty water must have gone in..
So overall, I spent more time fixing the two damn things than running them. It is a pity 'cause when they are running, they are a lot of fun!!
Today, I am wondering if I would not be better to buy another brand (Traxxas or ARRMA) rather than countinuing to repair...
Ah, man! That's the quintessential Outlaw experience! Yeah, mine has been very, very similar! Spent a lot more on fixes and upgrades, than the initial retail price.
They are fun, though. There's no denying it!
It's 100% up to you. There are cheaper brands than Traxxas and Arrma, that still offer strong, reliable models. Have a look at HPI and Maverick, for example.
However, if you want strength, the Arrma Senton is basically bulletproof!
Amazing Mike,it actually survived today. Running on that rocky terrain was asking a lot of the Outlaw,not something that I'd have tried,considering how much of a lemon this has been.
Tell me about it, David! Probably the hardest bash it's ever had... and it's fine! And not my typical "It's fiiine", but ACTUALLY fine!
Yet, it previously broke, just driving along my driveway!
This is a good RC for the money you pay. For brushed version is excellent and durable enough. For brushless I don’t think that components can handle the forces of the motor. I did my outlaw a crawler and it is absolutely great I love it as much as I love my Kanyon
I have to agree. As a brushed product it's actually very good. My only gripes would be: A- the ESC is rubbish and B- I'd like to see the chassis mounting points for the rear arms redesigned, slightly.
As for brushless, well... its needs upgrades, definitely! I don't think the brushless Outlaw should come with the plastic chassis and driveshaft. But it seems I might have finally sorted it out!
I've seen a few people convert them to crawlers and heard they were good. Have you locked the diffs?
I was first tempted to FTX as a basher choice as they caught my eye with the semi alloy shocks and thick tie rods etc as well as cheap parts and cheap to buy. I had mostly Tamiya's and old HPI's before the FTX though.
I feel with mines it's tradition to break down every run and part of the true FTX experience. My Carnage likes to eat spur gears. I've spent more than i should have on a heap of upgrades so hopefully i'll get them fitted soon and if it's good enough to survive a few baterries.
Yeah, it's a difficult one, eh? Something appears to be great value, only to need money sunk into it. Especially when many reviews are incredibly positive! Best of luck with it.
you...''its a lemon''....me wanting one ''shit''....never been so disappointed watching a YT vid...really wanted one...great vid ??????
They can be great fun. Last time I used mine, it was brilliant! Some people love theirs, but MINE has been a lemon!
MINE IS SUPERB. DITCH THE STANDARD WHEELS tho
well i just got me one a few eeeks back and so far i have had to replace the esc , i am running brushless , i have 5 other crawlers that i like to crawl with , but i think the outlaw is so brutal its a crazy machine , looks great and is very suppel in suspension , i think i will keep it for running on the flat sand at the beach instead of trying to bash the life out of it on rocks ,
The beach would be perfect for it. I haven't taken mine to a beach... maybe a I should. Glad you are enjoying it!
My brushless outlaw's been really reliable, until I gave my son a go in the woods. He smashed it up pretty badly with some rear end landings from jumps and then crashed full throttle into a tree. Can't really blame the car for that!
Looks like there's not enough weight on the rear wheels on yours with the battery mounted way up front like that, the rear's bouncing around all the time and getting flipped forward running over rocks. I moved my battery a bit forward and down, but still on the original battery mounts. Fancy trying the HPI wheels too, been using Ftx Bugsta wheels but the foams go flat really quick.
Haha yeah, I think even an Arrma would lose to a tree!
Yeah, you are correct about that. I might look into it, but it doesn't really bother me that much. We'll see.
Well, best of luck in your search. These are HPI wheels, but with dirt-cheap ebay-special tyres and foams. They aren't amazing, but they're good enough.
Funny mines a tank I love it but I do have a few upgrades like you and I run a 2600kv motor plus I have wide hex adapters on it. I do get what you your saying though as some folks have zero luck with theres and I don’t get why like you say can’t be a bad batch. Maybe it’s just the quality of plastic is a bit hit and miss depending on who is working that day 👍😂😂
_Of_ _course_ you'd get a good one!! Glad you're enjoying yours, Rich. But slightly envious!
What spur and pinion gears are you using as I've got the same electronic setup as you it my spur gears just keep shredding ?
I'm still on the standard gearing. It's weird, but many Outlaw owners have no issues with gears, whereas other have a nightmare! I've you're struggling, I'd suggest getting a steel spur and pinion from RW Racing (UK), or Robinson Racing (US).
Nice video. What are the wheels as brought a brushless outlaw 2 days ago. Waiting for less rain to give it a first go.
Thanks. Those are HPI MT wheels. Enjoy!
@@TheRCScotsman Thanks dude. Only used it couple of times now and love it.
1st to say 1st
I had a vetta karoo which is a shortcourse version of the outlaw. Utter junk, I loved the way it drove all twisty and nose up under acceleration but the thing is made of chocolate. Couldn't even bring myself to sell it and inflict it on someone else.
Ouch! Sounds very familiar!
Hi, what alternative options are there out there for reasonable money?
With the return of HPI, they've started to push out the new Maverick models. The Maverick Phantom looks like ridiculous value for money, but I've no experience with it, so couldn't say how durable it is.
The 2WD Corally trucks are awesome, once you sort out a few issues (you can see my review of the Triton, for example). They are absolute tanks and can survive a horrendous amount of abuse, but they definitely do need modified straight away.
Otherwise, I'd say look at the ECX range. Their trucks are both affordable and tough.
Had my outlaw a few weeks, broken everytime I ve used it 😢 lower wishbone, hinge pin, bumper, chassis... Oh and the rear shock just fell apart
Oh no! That sound familiar! ... Apart from the rear shock, that's a new one to me! How hard were you bashing it?
Not too hard, I need to put a m4 washer over the top shocker mount to stop it popping off
@@thriftyoutdoors Damn, that's not good.
My outlaw doesn't turn very sharp, any suggestions on how to make it turn better?
It's probably got play in the servo saver. Check if the servo saver has slop in it and, if so, see if you can tighten it. The standard servo is also very slow and weak. A servo upgrade may be on the cards! Good luck.
What would you recommend in the price range?
Maverick Quantum.
Installed brushless on my zorro with same chassis but it's makes a crunching sound and struggles to move without a push any ideas why....?
Sounds like cogging. Does it do it when the wheels are off the ground? Also, is it a sensorless, or a sensored system?
@@TheRCScotsman when the wheels are off the ground it sounds OK its like a can't take the weight of being grounded and I'm not to sure it was the dollatek setup from amazon
@@zedfearon Definitely sounds like cogging. I looked on Amazon and that system gets very mixed reviews. If you are still within your return window, I'd think about returning them for a refund and buying a brushless system from a reputable brand/shop. The problem with these Chinese systems is that some are really good, but the lack of quality control means they all wildly differ from one-another.
@@TheRCScotsman update: stripped the whole thing it's not the motor it's something to do with the rear diff not sure how to fix it tho
@@zedfearon Have you broken any teeth off the diff gear?
My FTX Carnage is like Trigger's broom. Nothing now remains of the original parts including all electronics! Most parts are that overpriced alloy stuff which appears to be no better than the plastic it replaced. It would seem that the difs are the weakest link now. Too much money in it to get rid but my Rustler gets more use.
Damn. Sounds exactly like my Outlaw. It's so bizarre... why are FTX models so inconsistent and vary between "junk" and "brilliant"??
Probably doesn't help you're driving full speed over solid boulders!
Chinese RC cars seem a lot like Chinese watches from a few years back. They may share a name, but they're often made by questionable sub-contractors, shadow factories or people's back rooms. Chinese B2C is the new wild west, as is every non-China supplier selling Chinese products with a dodgy warranty.
Can't argue with that!
Need to move the battery back... To much weight on the front axle.. No lift on the front when driving but excessive lifting on the back as nothing to hold it down...... 4 wheel drive so need traction on all 4 tyres
The FTX Outlaw brushed motor is a little lame with acceleration and all the batteries it takes run out in ridiculously short time and take sooooo long to charge. I haven’t used the brushless version but I recon that would fix both these fundamental problems.
It does. The 550 FTX motor is pretty rotten. The brushless system is more powerful and more efficient. Plus, a good charger can charge lipo batteries in an hour.
@@TheRCScotsman you wouldn’t happen to know of an upgrade for the FTX that could take 3S Lipos would you?
@@ozzyg82 It needs a lot! metal driveshaft, upgraded spur and pinion, stronger sway-bar kit and a decent brushless system.
And it'll STILL eat itself!
@@TheRCScotsman challenge accepted - I’m going to start Frankensteining mine. Wish me luck!
@@ozzyg82 Haha, definitely good luck!!
I have a brushed ftx outlaw
Are you enjoying it?
@@TheRCScotsman its very cool
@@dutch_rc_racer8022 Nice! Glad you like it.
Me too, I think painting mine nato green/matt black has improved its performance greatly.
I soak all my plastic parts in wd40 its supposed to help
Interesting!
Ftx outlaw is a good rc you are the cow ...hard tires and blind driving thats exactly how to kill an rc offroad ...